Re: lynx mirport not working (was Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing)

2006-08-15 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 08:51:00PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Dixi: Walter Ian Kaye dixit: There are no links for Mac OS X either. Oops. Does Mac OSX come shipped without lynx? This cries for a lynx port in the MirPorts Framework. I now did one, and all I get is: internal

Re: Compiling MingW lynx under Cygwin (was Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing)

2006-08-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: If it's true, the binary with GnuTLS is inferior to the one with OpenSSL on this point. Like I said. (And the other issue with the DN format is still open, although I've sent a patch to Tom about it which none of you GNU users seems to have tested.) //mirabile -- I

Re: Compiling MingW lynx under Cygwin (was Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing)

2006-08-12 Thread Doug Kaufman
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. I went back through my notes and patches and did some more testing. Here is a step-by-step guide to building a statically compiled lynx under

Re: Compiling MingW lynx under Cygwin (was Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing)

2006-08-11 Thread patakuti
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I ask you the concrete steps to compile Lynx under Cygwin with -mno-cygwin? Do you mean running configure make on Cygwin bash? OK. I went back through my notes and patches and did some more

Compiling MingW lynx under Cygwin (was Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing) (LONG)

2006-07-30 Thread Doug Kaufman
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I ask you the concrete steps to compile Lynx under Cygwin with -mno-cygwin? Do you mean running configure make on Cygwin bash? OK. I went back through my notes and patches and did some more testing. Here is a step-by-step guide to building a

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-29 Thread Walter Ian Kaye
At 08:15p -0500 07/28/2006, Stef Caunter didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: Debatable. You think it's debatable whether being unable to use to Yahoo or SourceForge or do any e-commerce is crippling? Wow. Getting a binary up this quickly is quite convenient. Yeah, but if it

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-29 Thread Stef Caunter
You think it's debatable whether being unable to use to Yahoo or SourceForge or do any e-commerce is crippling? Wow. Hardly relevant since you can't ship lynx with ssl so the experience is consistent and obvious everywhere. A binary without ssl is what it is; add it in using source and a

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-28 Thread Doug Kaufman
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Henry Nelson wrote: I think I saw somewhere that the gettext tools (what you want if you're going to get into translating the messages) had been ported to Windows, but unfortunately I don't have the slightest idea how they work on Windows. The MingW version of lynx which

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-28 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Stegozor wrote: On 7/28/06, Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more thing: As you may have guessed, English is not my native tongue: in exchange, I'd gladly do my best to translate any Lynx related file into French and/or Turkish. Just realise that you'll have

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-28 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Walter Ian Kaye dixit: There are no links for Mac OS X either. Oops. Does Mac OSX come shipped without lynx? This cries for a lynx port in the MirPorts Framework. //mirabile -- I believe no one can invent an algorithm. One just happens to hit upon it when God enlightens him. Or only God

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-28 Thread patakuti
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MingW version of lynx which I have been porting (but not yet distributing) is compiled with NLS and seems to work fine. I linked it with gettext-0.11.5 which I ported to MingW last year. I generally compile MingW programs under Cygwin with

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-28 Thread Stef Caunter
Lynxlet, while not ssl-capable, is an excellent and very quick OS X app which obviates the need to install XCode since it just unpacks and runs in Terminal. Walter Ian Kaye dixit: There are no links for Mac OS X either. Oops. Does Mac OSX come shipped without lynx? I believe there's a

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-28 Thread Walter Ian Kaye
At 12:44a + 07/28/2006, Thorsten Glaser didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: Walter Ian Kaye dixit: There are no links for Mac OS X either. Oops. Does Mac OSX come shipped without lynx? This cries for a lynx port in the MirPorts Framework. //mirabile I think the original

Re: GPL (was Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing)

2006-07-28 Thread David Woolley
That would, I guess, be UKansas and a few individuals. Including important contributors who are no longer traceable, like Foteos. A long time ago the FSF wanted Lynx to have the copyrights assigned to single organisation. It couldn't be done then, because it was impossible to track down

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-28 Thread Stef Caunter
Debatable. Getting a binary up this quickly is quite convenient. To add any ssl functionality to lynx requires a compile and always has in my experience. Even without ssl you still get that 'real view' of the web, scriptable, customizable and fast. On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Walter Ian Kaye wrote:

GPL (was Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing)

2006-07-27 Thread Thorsten Glaser
David Woolley dixit: They are only free to choose the SSL implementation because the code is legitimately distributable for use on, say, Linux. The FSF take a True, but what does Lynx consist of? Lynx + pdcurses + OpenSSL So all that is required is to ask the Lynx copyright holder for an

Re: GPL (was Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing)

2006-07-27 Thread Stef Caunter
OpenSSL works really well with lynx, restrictive license. GnuTLS isn't as good with lynx. There have been several discussions about OpenSSL and this over the years, which are all available in the archives; or I suppose it could get restated again for this go round. | Stef -

Re: GPL (was Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing)

2006-07-27 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Stef Caunter wrote: OpenSSL works really well with lynx, restrictive license. It's not that restrictive - simply requires attribution. And the comments about being only allowed on Linux and *BSD's are inaccurate (though this is not unusual ;-) -- Thomas E. Dickey

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-27 Thread Stegozor
On 7/26/06, Stef Caunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But lynx.isc.org is current and quite acceptable. There is plenty of evidence of active development and code maintenance in both the readable text and breakout subdirectory date stamps. Indeed, and that's how I ended up in this mailing list and

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-27 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Stegozor wrote: One more thing: As you may have guessed, English is not my native tongue: in exchange, I'd gladly do my best to translate any Lynx related file into French and/or Turkish. Just realise that you'll have to cope with a newbie and that I'll need time. Apart

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-27 Thread Stegozor
On 7/28/06, Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more thing: As you may have guessed, English is not my native tongue: in exchange, I'd gladly do my best to translate any Lynx related file into French and/or Turkish. Just realise that you'll have to cope with a newbie and that I'll

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-27 Thread Chuck Houpt
At 12:14a +0200 07/28/2006, Stegozor didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: On 7/26/06, Stef Caunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But lynx.isc.org is current and quite acceptable. There is plenty of evidence of active development and code maintenance in both the readable text and breakout

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-26 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, David Woolley wrote: on the other hand, anyone is free to build and use lynx with whatever implementation of SSL they choose. But this thread is about typical Windows users, who don't have development tools and wouldn't know how to use them if they did (probably applies

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-26 Thread hsv
20060726 00:26 -0500, Stef Caunter But lynx.isc.org is current and quite acceptable. There is plenty of evidence of active development and code maintenance in both the readable text and breakout subdirectory date stamps. It's common for external links to degrade over time, but putting energy

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-26 Thread patakuti
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: - change the compiler from Borland's bcc32 to MingW's gcc Why? It depends on SSL library. I think it's easier to compile with GnuTLS using the MingW's compiler than using Borland's one. - change the SSL library

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-25 Thread Thorsten Glaser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: - change the compiler from Borland's bcc32 to MingW's gcc Why? - change the SSL library from OpenSSL to GnuTls NO! That'd be BAD! - write the English project page You could at least add an (international) behind the link on the page. bye, //mirabile -- I

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-25 Thread Stegozor
On 7/25/06, Henry Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] there is a binary of 2.8.5rel1 with an installer available from Takeshi Hataguchi. That installer is primarily in Japanese, but the binary and documentation are fine in English. You can get it from

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-25 Thread David Woolley
- change the SSL library from OpenSSL to GnuTls NO! That'd be BAD! But Lynx on Windows or MS-DOS isn't legally distributable with OpenSSL because it is not GPL compatible except when it forms a library normally supplied with the operating system.

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-25 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, David Woolley wrote: - change the SSL library from OpenSSL to GnuTls NO! That'd be BAD! But Lynx on Windows or MS-DOS isn't legally distributable with OpenSSL because it is not GPL compatible except when it forms a library normally supplied with the operating system.

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-25 Thread Stef Caunter
But lynx.isc.org is current and quite acceptable. There is plenty of evidence of active development and code maintenance in both the readable text and breakout subdirectory date stamps. It's common for external links to degrade over time, but putting energy into maintaining clean code should

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-24 Thread Stegozor
On 7/22/06, David Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's available at http://lynx.isc.org/lynx2.8.5/ Someone asking this question is likely to be completely thrown by this page as the only sort of software they are likely to be able to handle is an executable Windows binary install

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-24 Thread Doug Kaufman
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Stegozor wrote: On 7/22/06, David Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's available at http://lynx.isc.org/lynx2.8.5/ Someone asking this question is likely to be completely thrown by this page as the only sort of software they are likely to be able to handle

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-22 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 04:00:00PM +0100, PAT OGILVIE wrote: I am trying to test my web site and in google guidleines it suggests: Use a text browser such as Lynx to examine your site, because most search engine spiders see your site much as Lynx would. I can't find how to access and

Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing

2006-07-22 Thread Philip Webb
060722 David Woolley wrote: It's available at http://lynx.isc.org/lynx2.8.5/ Someone asking this question is likely to be completely thrown by this page as the only sort of software they are likely to be able to handle is an executable Windows binary install package! They will probably not