On 10-Sep-2001 Garst R. Reese wrote:
Not that I'm saying it can't/won't go back. I really can't remember the
details of the discussion.
A.
If it was in, it was not there for long. I often used either verse or
quote (or is it quotation) to get an indented paragraph before minipage
got
Is the anoncvs.lyx.org still down? Login attempts hang, but ping
works.
cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/lyx/cvsroot login
Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/usr/local/lyx/cvsroot
CVS password:
HANGS HERE after password given!!
Also anonncvs.us.lyx.org is denying access.
As proposed by JMarc, I removed the annoying AskQuestion when changing
the class in Layout - Document. Instead I implemented a button Reset
(to class defaults) and a checkbox Auto Reset (to class defaults).
Furthermore I removed the irritating menu entry Save as class
defaults in Layout and
People have been complaining about the Splash dialog since the beginning of
time. It obsures other popups. It appears on all virtual desktops on KDE. It
does other nasty things with other window managers.
This small patch (attached) will allow us to get rid of the Splash dialog
entirely.
On 17-Sep-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
All the paragraph extra stuff was a hack.
(and this is why it is so excruciatingly hard to get rid of it)
Could you explain why it was a hack in your opinion? Because we used
some more paragraph-params? Because we had a visual feedback on screen?
On Monday 17 September 2001 10:25, Juergen Vigna wrote:
On 17-Sep-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
All the paragraph extra stuff was a hack.
(and this is why it is so excruciatingly hard to get rid of it)
Could you explain why it was a hack in your opinion? Because we used
some more
On 17-Sep-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| I just don't get it?
the same extra parameters was used for different things depending on
the value of the other extra parameters.
So you say if I reimplement this with clean parameters then it wouldn't
be a hack anymore?
Jürgen
--
On 17-Sep-2001 Angus Leeming wrote:
Jürgen, IF you'd like to put the ability to modify the width of an individual
paragraph back into LyX, then I'm happy to give it a frontend. Duncan Simpson
suggested that the best LaTeX for the problem is:
ERT inset
{\leftskip=2cm
\rightskip=2cm
On 17-Sep-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Angus Here's the fdesign stuff ;-) I just need the appropriate
Angus ParagraphParameters.
Concerning the LaTeX output, remember that we want a reasonable
environment rather than some ugly
Michael Schmidt wrote:
- It seems like Wide figures do not work with option Here,
definitely (at least in the article class without additional
flags/options). If that is generally true, the option should not be
allowed for them.
(At least) figure* and table* only work if the line
Finally! What a relieve! :-)
Being just a humble user of LyX (who actually largely prefers XEmacs
with AUCTeX/RefTeX), i probably deserve no right at all to speak out
on such matters but i just can't let this go by uncommented.
Angus is addressing a topic which is most annoying in recent
Just to remind you that this issue is still unsolved ;-)
If a footnote is used inside a tabular which is
- outside floats
- not in a minipage
- no long-tabular
the following two lines have to be inserted to the preamble (according
to Dekel):
\usepackage{footnote}
\makesavenoteenv{tabular}
Else
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Just to remind you that this issue is still unsolved ;-)
If a footnote is used inside a tabular which is
- outside floats
- not in a minipage
- no long-tabular
the following two lines have to be inserted to the preamble (according
to Dekel):
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Michael Schmidt wrote:
- It seems like Wide figures do not work with option Here,
definitely (at least in the article class without additional
flags/options). If that is generally true, the option should not be
allowed for them.
(At least) figure* and table*
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Angus Leeming wrote:
It works like a charm here.
Hooray!!!
Note that I have not commented out/removed the Splash dialog code in the
patch, so two pixmaps are displayed currently, slightly offset.
Remove the splash dialog code! I don't want to see this anymore! Oh, my
On Monday 17 September 2001 16:21, R. Lahaye wrote:
Angus,
Do you remember we set up this dialog iconizes with main toggle
feature in preferences?
Not all dialogs comply to that:
* (Error) Messages.
Makes sense, since this way they always stay on-top of main.
Here it iconifies
On Monday 17 September 2001 16:43, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Angus Rob, how often have you been told that the label button isn't
Angus one or ours? It's an autogenerated form from the xforms
Angus library. One day it'll be re-written, but
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 04:13:52PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote:
If a footnote is used inside a tabular which is
- outside floats
- not in a minipage
- no long-tabular
the following two lines have to be inserted to the preamble (according
to Dekel):
\usepackage{footnote}
is no more
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 04:34:53PM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Sorry. I corrected this. There are some places where
4-character-indentation is used, though (FormDocument::class_update).
I handled it the same there.
all it needs is for someone who can commit to convert all the files
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 05:43:51PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Angus Rob, how often have you been told that the label button isn't
Angus one or ours? It's an autogenerated form from the xforms
Angus library. One day it'll be
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 06:38:00PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I don't know, I see you all busy modifying the interface (note that I
am not complaining). It is the last missing popup, along with SendTo,
which will require more work. I think somebody claimed ownership of
that, but I
On Monday 17 September 2001 17:38, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Angus On Monday 17 September 2001 16:43, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Angus Rob, how often have you been told that the label
I don't know, I see you all busy modifying the interface (note that I
am not complaining). It is the last missing popup, along with SendTo,
which will require more work. I think somebody claimed ownership of
that, but I forgot who.
Edwin.
I did indeed. But I am unfortunately very busy
Dekel Tsur wrote:
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 04:13:52PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote:
If a footnote is used inside a tabular which is
- outside floats
- not in a minipage
- no long-tabular
the following two lines have to be inserted to the preamble (according
to Dekel):
On Monday 17 September 2001 18:06, Edwin Leuven wrote:
I don't know, I see you all busy modifying the interface (note that I
am not complaining). It is the last missing popup, along with SendTo,
which will require more work. I think somebody claimed ownership of
that, but I forgot
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Angus Leeming wrote:
I don't know, I see you all busy modifying the interface (note that I
am not complaining). It is the last missing popup, along with SendTo,
which will require more work. I think somebody claimed ownership of
that, but I forgot who.
So, no major
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 06:59:50PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote:
there were two footnote packages, the one of robin fairbanks
is now footmisc, the otherone is afaik no more part of the
tools package.
Mark Wooding's footnote.sty is still a part of mdwtools.
anyway, with package tabularx
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 08:26:06PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| bugs in the code is finite. So there is some hope that the list will
| shrink eventually :-)
Nah There is always one more bug!
Yes but the limit tends towards a specific value. So we can keep going forever,
but
Please hold off on this.
I have been swamped, but I have a whole host of cleanups for lyx.spec.in,
thanks to Zvezdan. It's been just a bit crazier than usual recently.
By the way, I got stopped today on the way into work this morning (I
was driving a recently purchased SUV without plates, close
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 11:53:02PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
I also think that the:
gzip -f9 ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}/usr/man/man?/*
should be done by the make install.
First of all, this shouldn't be done at all. RPM does this automatically
for man pages.
However, similar
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 07:03:38PM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote:
I'm ranting about this for the third time already, but obviously nobody
wants to take my spec files and make this as it should be.
I'm taking this back. I've just seen in another message that Kayvan is
working on this.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 07:07:20PM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote:
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 07:03:38PM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote:
I'm ranting about this for the third time already, but obviously nobody
wants to take my spec files and make this as it should be.
I'm taking this back.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 11:35:08PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
| Yes but the limit tends towards a specific value. So we can keep going forever,
| but there is an upper limit...
So you clam that the process will stop, ... but it will take forever?
it won't stop, we'll just get close
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 01:08:37AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes:
...
-%attr(-,root,root) /usr/bin/*
-%attr(-,root,root) /usr/man/*
-%attr(-,root,root) /usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/*
-%attr(-,root,root) /usr/share/lyx
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 01:24:15AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes:
| | However, similar references should be written as:
| |
| | ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}%{_mandir}/man?/*
| |
| | because on some systems it's /usr/man and on some
On Die, 2001-09-18 at 02:55, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote:
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 01:15:07AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
Zvezdan Petkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| However, similar references should be written as:
|
| ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}%{_mandir}/man?/*
|
| because on some
On Die, 2001-09-18 at 01:24, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes:
| | However, similar references should be written as:
| |
| | ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}%{_mandir}/man?/*
| |
| | because on some systems it's /usr/man and on some /usr/share/man
|
|
Am Montag, 17. September 2001 18:06 schrieb John Levon:
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 04:34:53PM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Sorry. I corrected this. There are some places where
4-character-indentation is used, though
(FormDocument::class_update). I handled it the same there.
all it
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 08:08:52AM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Yes, and I want to use them properly. So what I am supposed to do? Use
/always/ 8-character-tabs, even if the rest of the paragraph seems to
be intended with 4 characters?
Thanks,
Jürgen
no, keep to the style of the
On 10-Sep-2001 Garst R. Reese wrote:
>> Not that I'm saying it can't/won't go back. I really can't remember the
>> details of the discussion.
>>
>> A.
> If it was in, it was not there for long. I often used either verse or
> quote (or is it quotation) to get an indented paragraph before
Is the anoncvs.lyx.org still down? Login attempts hang, but ping
works.
cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/lyx/cvsroot login
Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/usr/local/lyx/cvsroot
CVS password:
HANGS HERE after password given!!
Also anonncvs.us.lyx.org is denying access.
As proposed by JMarc, I removed the annoying AskQuestion when changing
the class in Layout -> Document. Instead I implemented a button "Reset"
(to class defaults) and a checkbox "Auto Reset" (to class defaults).
Furthermore I removed the irritating menu entry "Save as class
defaults" in
People have been complaining about the Splash dialog since the beginning of
time. It obsures other popups. It appears on all virtual desktops on KDE. It
does other nasty things with other window managers.
This small patch (attached) will allow us to get rid of the Splash dialog
entirely.
On 17-Sep-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> All the paragraph extra stuff was a hack.
> (and this is why it is so excruciatingly hard to get rid of it)
Could you explain why it was a hack in your opinion? Because we used
some more paragraph-params? Because we had a visual feedback on screen?
On Monday 17 September 2001 10:25, Juergen Vigna wrote:
> On 17-Sep-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>
> > All the paragraph extra stuff was a hack.
> > (and this is why it is so excruciatingly hard to get rid of it)
>
> Could you explain why it was a hack in your opinion? Because we used
>
On 17-Sep-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>| I just don't get it?
>
> the same extra parameters was used for different things depending on
> the value of the other extra parameters.
So you say if I reimplement this with clean parameters then it wouldn't
be a hack anymore?
Jürgen
--
On 17-Sep-2001 Angus Leeming wrote:
> Jürgen, IF you'd like to put the ability to modify the width of an individual
> paragraph back into LyX, then I'm happy to give it a frontend. Duncan Simpson
> suggested that the best LaTeX for the problem is:
>
> ERT inset
> {\leftskip=2cm
>
On 17-Sep-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Angus> Here's the fdesign stuff ;-) I just need the appropriate
> Angus> ParagraphParameters.
>
> Concerning the LaTeX output, remember that we want a reasonable
> environment rather than
Michael Schmidt wrote:
- It seems like "Wide figures" do not work with option "Here,
definitely" (at least in the article class without additional
flags/options). If that is generally true, the option should not be
allowed for them.
(At least) figure* and table* only work if the line
Finally! What a relieve! :-)
Being just a humble user of LyX (who actually largely prefers XEmacs
with AUCTeX/RefTeX), i probably deserve no right at all to speak out
on such matters but i just can't let this go by uncommented.
Angus is addressing a topic which is most annoying in recent
Just to remind you that this issue is still unsolved ;-)
If a footnote is used inside a tabular which is
- outside floats
- not in a minipage
- no long-tabular
the following two lines have to be inserted to the preamble (according
to Dekel):
\usepackage{footnote}
\makesavenoteenv{tabular}
Else
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
>
> Just to remind you that this issue is still unsolved ;-)
> If a footnote is used inside a tabular which is
> - outside floats
> - not in a minipage
> - no long-tabular
> the following two lines have to be inserted to the preamble (according
> to Dekel):
>
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
>
> Michael Schmidt wrote:
> - It seems like "Wide figures" do not work with option "Here,
> definitely" (at least in the article class without additional
> flags/options). If that is generally true, the option should not be
> allowed for them.
>
> (At least)
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Angus Leeming wrote:
> It works like a charm here.
Hooray!!!
> Note that I have not commented out/removed the Splash dialog code in the
> patch, so two pixmaps are displayed currently, slightly offset.
Remove the splash dialog code! I don't want to see this anymore! Oh,
On Monday 17 September 2001 16:21, R. Lahaye wrote:
> Angus,
>
> Do you remember we set up this "dialog iconizes with main" toggle
> feature in preferences?
>
> Not all dialogs comply to that:
>
> * (Error) Messages.
> Makes sense, since this way they always stay on-top of main.
Here it
On Monday 17 September 2001 16:43, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Angus> Rob, how often have you been told that the label button isn't
> Angus> one or ours? It's an autogenerated form from the xforms
> Angus> library. One day it'll be
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 04:13:52PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote:
> > If a footnote is used inside a tabular which is
> > - outside floats
> > - not in a minipage
> > - no long-tabular
> > the following two lines have to be inserted to the preamble (according
> > to Dekel):
> > \usepackage{footnote}
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 04:34:53PM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> Sorry. I corrected this. There are some places where
> 4-character-indentation is used, though (FormDocument::class_update).
> I handled it the same there.
all it needs is for someone who can commit to convert all the
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 05:43:51PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Angus> Rob, how often have you been told that the label button isn't
> Angus> one or ours? It's an autogenerated form from the xforms
> Angus> library. One day
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 06:38:00PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> I don't know, I see you all busy modifying the interface (note that I
> am not complaining). It is the last missing popup, along with SendTo,
> which will require more work. I think somebody claimed ownership of
> that, but
On Monday 17 September 2001 17:38, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Angus> On Monday 17 September 2001 16:43, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> >> > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> Angus> Rob, how often have
> > I don't know, I see you all busy modifying the interface (note that I
> > am not complaining). It is the last missing popup, along with SendTo,
> > which will require more work. I think somebody claimed ownership of
> > that, but I forgot who.
>
> Edwin.
I did indeed. But I am unfortunately
Dekel Tsur wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 04:13:52PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote:
> > > If a footnote is used inside a tabular which is
> > > - outside floats
> > > - not in a minipage
> > > - no long-tabular
> > > the following two lines have to be inserted to the preamble (according
> > > to
On Monday 17 September 2001 18:06, Edwin Leuven wrote:
> > > I don't know, I see you all busy modifying the interface (note that I
> > > am not complaining). It is the last missing popup, along with SendTo,
> > > which will require more work. I think somebody claimed ownership of
> > > that, but
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Angus Leeming wrote:
> > I don't know, I see you all busy modifying the interface (note that I
> > am not complaining). It is the last missing popup, along with SendTo,
> > which will require more work. I think somebody claimed ownership of
> > that, but I forgot who.
>
>
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 06:59:50PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote:
> there were two footnote packages, the one of robin fairbanks
> is now footmisc, the otherone is afaik no more part of the
> tools package.
Mark Wooding's footnote.sty is still a part of mdwtools.
> anyway, with package tabularx
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 08:26:06PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> | bugs in the code is finite. So there is some hope that the list will
> | shrink eventually :-)
>
> Nah "There is always one more bug!"
Yes but the limit tends towards a specific value. So we can keep going forever,
Please hold off on this.
I have been swamped, but I have a whole host of cleanups for lyx.spec.in,
thanks to Zvezdan. It's been just a bit crazier than usual recently.
By the way, I got stopped today on the way into work this morning (I
was driving a recently purchased SUV without plates, close
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 11:53:02PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>
> I also think that the:
>
> "gzip -f9 ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}/usr/man/man?/*"
>
> should be done by the "make install".
>
First of all, this shouldn't be done at all. RPM does this automatically
for man pages.
However,
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 07:03:38PM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote:
>
> I'm ranting about this for the third time already, but obviously nobody
> wants to take my spec files and make this as it should be.
>
I'm taking this back. I've just seen in another message that Kayvan is
working on this.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 07:07:20PM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 07:03:38PM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote:
> >
> > I'm ranting about this for the third time already, but obviously nobody
> > wants to take my spec files and make this as it should be.
>
> I'm taking
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 11:35:08PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> | Yes but the limit tends towards a specific value. So we can keep going forever,
> | but there is an upper limit...
>
> So you clam that the process will stop, ... but it will take forever?
it won't stop, we'll just get
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 01:08:37AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes:
> ...
> -%attr(-,root,root) /usr/bin/*
> -%attr(-,root,root) /usr/man/*
> -%attr(-,root,root) /usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/*
> -%attr(-,root,root) /usr/share/lyx
>
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 01:24:15AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes:
>
> | | However, similar references should be written as:
> | |
> | | ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}%{_mandir}/man?/*
> | |
> | | because on some systems it's /usr/man and on some
On Die, 2001-09-18 at 02:55, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 01:15:07AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> > Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > | However, similar references should be written as:
> > |
> > | ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}%{_mandir}/man?/*
> > |
> >
On Die, 2001-09-18 at 01:24, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes:
>
> | | However, similar references should be written as:
> | |
> | | ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}%{_mandir}/man?/*
> | |
> | | because on some systems it's /usr/man and on some /usr/share/man
>
Am Montag, 17. September 2001 18:06 schrieb John Levon:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 04:34:53PM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> > Sorry. I corrected this. There are some places where
> > 4-character-indentation is used, though
> > (FormDocument::class_update). I handled it the same there.
>
>
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 08:08:52AM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> Yes, and I want to use them properly. So what I am supposed to do? Use
> /always/ 8-character-tabs, even if the rest of the "paragraph" seems to
> be intended with 4 characters?
>
> Thanks,
> Jürgen
no, keep to the
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