Re: Mac SVN fails to compile

2010-01-29 Thread Roger Mc Murtrie
Thanks Pavel, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "clean checkout". However I tried svn cleanup then svn update after which the ar.po problem seems to have gone away and the make continued for quite a while but stopped with: Making all in support make all-am gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../..

Re: XML?

2010-01-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Friday 29 January 2010 19:03:15 Stefano Franchi wrote: > On 01/29/10, Steve Litt wrote: > >On Friday 29 January 2010 18:41:57 Peter Kümmel wrote: > >> Am Freitag, den 29.01.2010, 17:55 -0500 schrieb Steve Litt: > >> > Hi Peter, > >> > > >> > As a LyX user who often parses LyX native code in doc

Re: Crash on close-buffer

2010-01-29 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: Hi, start LyX, C-n, C-w ==> assertion (LyXFunc.cpp:537). Another way: start LyX, choose Tools->Preferences, same assertion. lassert.cpp(21): ASSERTION bv VIOLATED IN LyXFunc.cpp:537 T.

Crash on close-buffer

2010-01-29 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
Hi, start LyX, C-n, C-w ==> assertion (LyXFunc.cpp:537). lyx svn, r33266, Linux (gdb) bt #0 0x757634b5 in *__GI_raise (sig=) at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:64 #1 0x75766f50 in *__GI_abort () at abort.c:92 #2 0x005b65c8 in lyx::lyx_exit (exit_code=3786) a

Re: XML?

2010-01-29 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 08:41:52PM -0500, John Levon wrote: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:18:02PM +0100, Peter Kümmel wrote: > > > Again, maybe I'm too late, but: > > Is a switch to XML is really a good idea? > > XML is everywhere. That simple. A lot of stuff that is "everywhere" is not a good id

Re: XML?

2010-01-29 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:18:02PM +0100, Peter Kümmel wrote: > Again, maybe I'm too late, but: > Is a switch to XML is really a good idea? XML is everywhere. That simple. regards john

Re: binding arguments to an int?

2010-01-29 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:44:03PM +0100, Peter Kümmel wrote: > When enabling the merged build (using cmake) > which essentially is a build of each lib as > one file, I get often compiler errors which > are mostly due to multiple defined symbols. > > But now it looks very strange to me in > soc

Re: XML?

2010-01-29 Thread Stefano Franchi
On 01/29/10, Steve Litt wrote: >On Friday 29 January 2010 18:41:57 Peter Kümmel wrote: >> Am Freitag, den 29.01.2010, 17:55 -0500 schrieb Steve Litt: >> > Hi Peter, >> > >> > As a LyX user who often parses LyX native code in documents, >> > programmatically writes LyX native code, and uses Vim to

Re: XML?

2010-01-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Friday 29 January 2010 18:41:57 Peter Kümmel wrote: > Am Freitag, den 29.01.2010, 17:55 -0500 schrieb Steve Litt: > > Hi Peter, > > > > As a LyX user who often parses LyX native code in documents, > > programmatically writes LyX native code, and uses Vim to change LyX > > native code, I have the

Re: XML?

2010-01-29 Thread Peter Kümmel
Am Samstag, den 30.01.2010, 00:30 +0100 schrieb Peter Kümmel: > just google for these to words. Lua and > JavaScript are very similar. First Google hit (here) is "JSON: The Fat-Free Alternative to XML": http://www.json.org/xml.html Peter

Re: XML?

2010-01-29 Thread Peter Kümmel
Am Freitag, den 29.01.2010, 17:55 -0500 schrieb Steve Litt: > > Hi Peter, > > As a LyX user who often parses LyX native code in documents, programmatically > writes LyX native code, and uses Vim to change LyX native code, I have the > same reservations about lua as I do with XML -- it might mak

Re: XML?

2010-01-29 Thread Peter Kümmel
Am Freitag, den 29.01.2010, 17:50 -0500 schrieb rgheck: > On 01/29/2010 05:18 PM, Peter Kümmel wrote: > > Again, maybe I'm too late, but: > > Is a switch to XML is really a good idea? > > > > The XML hype is over, we don't use Java, LyX > > doesn't run on a Application-Server, and we > > live now i

Re: XML?

2010-01-29 Thread rgheck
On 01/29/2010 05:18 PM, Peter Kümmel wrote: Again, maybe I'm too late, but: Is a switch to XML is really a good idea? The XML hype is over, we don't use Java, LyX doesn't run on a Application-Server, and we live now in a App/web-app world where Json is more common than XML. And living in the La

Re: XML?

2010-01-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Friday 29 January 2010 17:18:02 Peter Kümmel wrote: > Again, maybe I'm too late, but: > Is a switch to XML is really a good idea? > > The XML hype is over, we don't use Java, LyX > doesn't run on a Application-Server, and we > live now in a App/web-app world where Json > is more common than XML

Re: Goals for alpha 1

2010-01-29 Thread Peter Kümmel
Am Freitag, den 29.01.2010, 22:55 +0100 schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:> > > > What revolution do you expect for 2.0 then ? (or are we back at the > XML-thing now ?) Read the "Table of contents" at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX20 most looks like "bug/missing-feature" fixing. This is maybe

XML?

2010-01-29 Thread Peter Kümmel
Again, maybe I'm too late, but: Is a switch to XML is really a good idea? The XML hype is over, we don't use Java, LyX doesn't run on a Application-Server, and we live now in a App/web-app world where Json is more common than XML. And living in the Latex world this means we should not use XML

Re: Goals for alpha 1

2010-01-29 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Peter Kümmel schreef: Am Freitag, den 29.01.2010, 18:30 + schrieb José Matos: On Friday 15 January 2010 19:42:30 Pavel Sanda wrote: José Matos wrote: Any other opinions suggestions? - please do some definitive decision about version number now. i have ask

Re: Goals for alpha 1

2010-01-29 Thread Peter Kümmel
Am Freitag, den 29.01.2010, 18:30 + schrieb José Matos: > On Friday 15 January 2010 19:42:30 Pavel Sanda wrote: > > José Matos wrote: > > > Any other opinions suggestions? > > > > - please do some definitive decision about version number now. > > i have asked about the opinions few days ag

binding arguments to an int?

2010-01-29 Thread Peter Kümmel
When enabling the merged build (using cmake) which essentially is a build of each lib as one file, I get often compiler errors which are mostly due to multiple defined symbols. But now it looks very strange to me in socktools.cpp: int fd; ... // bind() gives the local address 'name' for 'fd',

Re: Goals for alpha 1

2010-01-29 Thread José Matos
On Friday 15 January 2010 19:42:30 Pavel Sanda wrote: > José Matos wrote: > > Any other opinions suggestions? > > - please do some definitive decision about version number now. > i have asked about the opinions few days ago, whoever has something > to say got his chance. the result was 2:1

Re: xml in lyx

2010-01-29 Thread José Matos
On Monday 25 January 2010 12:44:23 rgheck wrote: > > > > Using this idea the first step should probably be to swap the > > meta-characters, for the current lyx format we have the backslash and > > for xml we have the three characters you mentioned. > > > > This seems a reasonable first step to me

Re: r33262 - in lyx-devel/trunk/src: . frontends/qt4 frontends/qt4/ui

2010-01-29 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
spitz wrote: > Author: spitz > Date: Fri Jan 29 15:44:21 2010 > New Revision: 33262 > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/33262 > > Log: > * fix spelling in comments to please John. Arghh, I'll revert the unintended Tabular changes immediately! Jürgen

Re: r33260 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

2010-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Pavel Sanda writes: > my real point here was different though - its adding unnecessary pain for > people working on docs. the distinction seemed to be clear here - lyx i use > is normally installed and i'm not allowed to edit help files when using > help menu, while its editable in svn checkouts.

Re: r33260 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

2010-01-29 Thread Pavel Sanda
Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: > >this looks wrong. readonly status should reflect readonly status of the > >file itself and when users on mac are allowed to edit it, mac installer > >should be changed, not this imho. > > No, the read-only status indicates whether the user is allowed to chang

Re: r33260 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

2010-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW" writes: >>this looks wrong. readonly status should reflect readonly status of the >>file itself and when users on mac are allowed to edit it, mac installer >>should be changed, not this imho. Proper mac apps don't have an installer :) > > No, the read-only status i

Re: r33254 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

2010-01-29 Thread Pavel Sanda
Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: > >it would be actually nice to have setting or some context menu for > switching this. > >currently there is (fortunately) still possible to dock it alongside > too... > > > > Why would you ever want them next to each other ? because i want to see them simulta

RE: r33260 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

2010-01-29 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
>> Log: >> Make LFUN_HELP_OPEN open the document in read-only mode. >> >> This fixes problems where Mac users can modify the documentation by >> mistake. Note that it is still possible to open those document by >> explicit path or to toggle off the read-only status (but this is only >> useful t

Re: r33260 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

2010-01-29 Thread Pavel Sanda
lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: > Author: lasgouttes > Date: Fri Jan 29 13:01:17 2010 > New Revision: 33260 > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/33260 > > Log: > Make LFUN_HELP_OPEN open the document in read-only mode. > > This fixes problems where Mac users can modify the documentation > by mistak

RE: r33254 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

2010-01-29 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
>> * GuiView.cpp: >> - use tabbed dock area for multiple docks (such as "source" and "messages") >>by default (requires Qt 4.3). > >it would be actually nice to have setting or some context menu for switching this. >currently there is (fortunately) still possible to dock it alongside t

Re: r33254 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

2010-01-29 Thread Pavel Sanda
sp...@lyx.org wrote: > Author: spitz > Date: Fri Jan 29 09:19:45 2010 > New Revision: 33254 > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/33254 > > Log: > * GuiView.cpp: > - use tabbed dock area for multiple docks (such as "source" and > "messages") > by default (requires Qt 4.3). it wo

Re: Questions about GuiView::dispatchVC

2010-01-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 01/29/2010 12:13 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes writes: * why isn't this in a normal dispatch function alongside with other functions? I do not see the gain. You mean other than that I hate big thousands lines function? Then it would be better to ha

Re: Questions about GuiView::dispatchVC

2010-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW" writes: >>* why isn't this in Buffer or BufferView? Just because it uses alerts? >> Did I already day that I do not like this dichotomy? ;) >> > > No, because most of the time it had to reload the buffer. Reloading the > buffer meant destroying the current one and l

Re: Questions about GuiView::dispatchVC

2010-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Abdelrazak Younes writes: >> * why isn't this in a normal dispatch function alongside with other >>functions? I do not see the gain. > > You mean other than that I hate big thousands lines function? Then it would be better to have it in the VC code itself (with a proper dispatch and getStatus

Re: Questions about GuiView::dispatchVC

2010-01-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 01/29/2010 11:27 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: * why isn't this in Buffer or BufferView? Just because it uses alerts? Because it was not possible at the time. This was in the main lyxfunc::dispatch() AFAIR. Thanks to Vincent's recent Buffer::reload() work. We can clean that up a bit

Re: conflict during svn-update

2010-01-29 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Guenter Milde wrote: > Why are the *.po files under version control if they are generated and > (once in a while) lead to conflicts? Only the messages are generated. The translations are edited and need to be committed to the repo. Jürgen

RE: Questions about GuiView::dispatchVC

2010-01-29 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
>* why isn't this in Buffer or BufferView? Just because it uses alerts? > Did I already day that I do not like this dichotomy? ;) > No, because most of the time it had to reload the buffer. Reloading the buffer meant destroying the current one and loading the file again. That's why I moved the

Re: conflict during svn-update

2010-01-29 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2010-01-28, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Sebastian Guttenberg wrote: >> Thanks a lot. Had to type it quite often, but it's fine now. > Next time just delete all *.po files and svn up. Those *.po conflicts just > happen, once in a while. Why are the *.po files under version control if they are

Questions about GuiView::dispatchVC

2010-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
* why isn't this in Buffer or BufferView? Just because it uses alerts? Did I already day that I do not like this dichotomy? ;) * why isn't this in a normal dispatch function alongside with other functions? I do not see the gain. * could I have a run down of the meaning of the messages? I thi

Re: Mac SVN fails to compile

2010-01-29 Thread Pavel Sanda
Roger Mc Murtrie wrote: > Any advice will be greatly appreciated, have you tried clean checkout? pavel