Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-20 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Uwe Stöhr schrieb: >> Btw. do we have other positions for the toolbars than "top" and "bottom"; >> I mean something like "left" and "right"? > > yes. "left" and "right" should just work. But they don't, I get an error message in the console that left or right is unknown. I deleted my ex

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Uwe> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: >> For all these reasons I believe that the control-return key does >> not belong in the toolbar (it is in the menus already). Uwe> OK, I'll remove it from my tree and then the installer is no Uwe> longer modi

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-19 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: For all these reasons I believe that the control-return key does not belong in the toolbar (it is in the menus already). OK, I'll remove it from my tree and then the installer is no longer modified. regards Uwe

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Uwe> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: I don't understand. How will you Uwe> produce the following?: >> What is wrong with the attached? Uwe> Compare the output of the attached LyX-file, you can see that it Uwe> is not the same: Your method produc

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-19 Thread Uwe Stöhr
>> Btw. do we have other positions for the toolbars than "top" and "bottom"; >> I mean something like "left" and "right"? > > yes. "left" and "right" should just work. But they don't, I get an error message in the console that left or right is unknown. >> OK, can the attached patch go in? > > I

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-19 Thread Helge Hafting
Andreas K. wrote: Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: There are now the following things left: --- the different toolbar --- Attached a Screenshot of the current toolbar. There are 4 extra buttons: - the linebreak button: It is in contrary to the one in SVN blue instead of read as this w

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-18 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: Uwe> I don't understand. How will you produce the following?: What is wrong with the attached? Compare the output of the attached LyX-file, you can see that it is not the same: Your method produces unwanted space. I gu

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-18 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: Uwe> I don't understand. How will you produce the following?: What is wrong with the attached? Compare the output of the attached LyX-file, you can see that it is not the same: Your method produces unwanted space. regards Uwe newfile1.lyx Description: applic

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-18 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: Uwe> Therefore I named the button not "linebreak" but Uwe> Item "New line in same item" "break-line" I think you outline very well why this icon should not be there ;) The NewLine inset is not related _at_all_ to lists! I

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Uwe> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: Therefore I named the button not Uwe> "linebreak" but Item "New line in same item" "break-line" >> I think you outline very well why this icon should not be there ;) >> The NewLine inset is not related _at_all

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-18 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > OK, can the attached patch go in? IMO yes. > Btw. do we have other positions for the toolbars than "top" and "bottom"; > I mean something like "left" and "right"? yes. "left" and "right" should just work. Jürgen

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-17 Thread Uwe Stöhr
>> > I am not sure whether it is a good idea to add all the buttons to the >> > standard toolbar. >> >> Attached is a screenshot how this would look. This has the advantage that >> we can use the existsing free space behind the existing standard toolbar >> buttons. > > And the huge disadvantage

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-17 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: Uwe> Therefore I named the button not "linebreak" but Uwe> Item "New line in same item" "break-line" I think you outline very well why this icon should not be there ;) The NewLine inset is not related _at_all_ to lists! If one wants to add a second paragraph to a

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-17 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: Uwe> Btw. we don't need an update PDF button here on Uwe> Windows as both functionalities are merged. What do you mean about merged? You can press the view PDF button and if the document isn't opened it will be shown, if it is already opened it will be actualize

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Uwe> I wrote: >> But in general although if we developers don't need this button we >> should consider the users needs. From time to time there are >> questions how to create a new line in the same item. We use >> Ctrl-Return, but users don't wa

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Here are some alternative ones (crystal style). But I don't know >> how they fit with LyX's default icons (since I use crystal icons >> myself). Uwe> They look nice but aren't conform to the other LyX icons, see my Uwe> screenshots. Btw. we

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-17 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Uwe Stöhr wrote: We use Ctrl-Return, but users don't want to learn shortcuts. If a user don't use LyX every day he will surely have forgotten that he has to use Ctrl-Return. So although I don't use it I think its usefule for many users. Ah, c'mon! Write a page on the

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > We use Ctrl-Return, but users don't > want to learn shortcuts. If a user don't use LyX every day he will surely > have forgotten that he has to use Ctrl-Return. > So although I don't use it I think its usefule for many users. Ah, c'mon! Write a page on the wiki how to intergrate

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Also sprach Uwe Stöhr: > They look nice but aren't conform to the other LyX icons, see my > screenshots. Btw. we don't need an update PDF button here on Windows as > both functionalities are merged. I don't know what's on Linux. We need it. Jürgen

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> Here are some alternative ones (crystal style). But I don't know how they fit > with LyX's default icons (since I use crystal icons myself). They look nice but aren't conform to the other LyX icons, see my screenshots. Btw. we don't need an update PDF button here on Windows as both functionalit

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr
I wrote: But in general although if we developers don't need this button we should consider the users needs. From time to time there are questions how to create a new line in the same item. We use Ctrl-Return, but users don't want to learn shortcuts. If a user don't use LyX every day he will

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Georg Baum wrote: > IMO you shoud definitely add the icons for viewing and updating pdf to svn, > since we already have some for dvi and ps. Here are some alternative ones (crystal style). But I don't know how they fit with LyX's default icons (since I use crystal icons myself). Jürgen buffer-

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-16 Thread Andreas K .
Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There are now the following things left: > > --- the different toolbar --- > Attached a Screenshot of the current toolbar. There are 4 extra buttons: > > - the linebreak button: It is in contrary to the one in SVN blue instead > of read as this was request

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-16 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jürgen" == Jürgen Spitzmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jürgen> Uwe Stöhr wrote: >> - the linebreak button: It is in contrary to the one in SVN blue >> instead of read as this was requested. Personally I don't use this >> button but as this was requested several times and especially new >

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-16 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> I am not sure whether it is a good idea to add all the buttons Georg> to the standard toolbar. In the long run I would like that the Georg> view and update functionality is merged: If no viewer with the Georg> file is open: open one, o

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-16 Thread Georg Baum
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > - the linebreak button: It is in contrary to the one in SVN blue instead > of read as this was >requested. Personally I don't use this button but as this was requested >several times and especially new users found this useful I added it. Why blue? IMO the button should

Re: [part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-15 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > - the linebreak button: It is in contrary to the one in SVN blue instead > of read as this was requested. Personally I don't use this button but as > this was requested several times and especially new users found this > useful I added it. I don't like this. That is, you can add

[part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-15 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Sorry that I bring this topic again on the list. The goal was to merge the changes I made in my LyXWinInstaller builds to the official source. There are now the following things left: --- the different toolbar --- Attached a Screenshot of the current toolbar. There are 4 extra buttons: - the li

[part 1] again about LyX's default settings

2007-01-15 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Sorry that I bring this topic again on the list. The goal was to merge the changes I made in my LyXWinInstaller builds to the official source. There are now the following things left: --- the different toolbar --- Attached a Screenshot of the current toolbar. There are 4 extra buttons: - the l