RE: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread John Levon
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Juergen Vigna wrote: On 27-Sep-2000 Marko Vendelin wrote: As it has been discussed earlier, toolbar may use the same interface as menubar. The attached screenshot demonstrates sample implementation of toolbar displaying main-menu. Each submenu of menubar is

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread John Levon
On 27 Sep 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Please think twice before doimg this. Think about what we want to do with LyX, and why LyX is not KWord. Why would people bother with styles if they can just change the typeface to large bold, add a number and pretend this is a section heading?

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"John" == John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John I always feel very edgy when it is suggested we should make John things difficult for people - in the end the wilful user will John misuse lyx anyway (all the while wondering why it's so John difficult), and someone who genuinely needs such

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | this is a difficult one. at the very least I don't think this argument | applies to Family - I use Typewriter all the time. Yes, but you probably shouldn't. What you should be able to do is to mark your text f.ex. as "code" or "verbatim". and then in

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread Marko Vendelin
On 27 Sep 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: [...] Concerning for example sans-serif, the question is to know when you need it, and what you want to express with it. It this "idea" that should be in the toolbar, not the pysical representation. Finally, two points: - the character popup

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread John Levon
On 27 Sep 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I am not sure I have been clear here. What I think is that a right solution should be easier to obtain that a wrong one. Of course, this does not mean much in itself. I think we should only propose _logical_ styles in menu/toolbar, not physical

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread John Levon
On 27 Sep 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm, perhaps I should repost my design doc? Lgb please I would like to read it. I agree that this approach is definitely best, I was misunderstanding JMarc. thanks john p.s. have you looked at my

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Marko" == Marko Vendelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marko Toolbars are good for displaying states (layout mode for Marko example) and for rarely used functions. However, since it is Marko possible to build up toolbars similar to menus by using Marko multiple toolbars and drop-down lists, it

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"John" == John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John p.s. have you looked at my -ansi squashing patch yet I am going to do it. JMarc

RE: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread John Levon
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 27-Sep-2000 Marko Vendelin wrote: > > > > As it has been discussed earlier, toolbar may use the same interface as > > menubar. The attached screenshot demonstrates sample implementation of > > toolbar displaying main-menu. Each submenu of

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread John Levon
On 27 Sep 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Please think twice before doimg this. Think about what we want to do > with LyX, and why LyX is not KWord. Why would people bother with > styles if they can just change the typeface to large bold, add a > number and pretend this is a section heading?

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> I always feel very edgy when it is suggested we should make John> things difficult for people - in the end the wilful user will John> misuse lyx anyway (all the while wondering why it's so John> difficult), and someone who genuinely

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | this is a difficult one. at the very least I don't think this argument | applies to Family - I use Typewriter all the time. Yes, but you probably shouldn't. What you should be able to do is to mark your text f.ex. as "code" or "verbatim". and then in

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread Marko Vendelin
On 27 Sep 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: [...] > Concerning for example sans-serif, the question is to know when you > need it, and what you want to express with it. It this "idea" that > should be in the toolbar, not the pysical representation. > > Finally, two points: > > - the

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread John Levon
On 27 Sep 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > I am not sure I have been clear here. What I think is that a right > solution should be easier to obtain that a wrong one. Of course, this > does not mean much in itself. I think we should only propose _logical_ > styles in menu/toolbar, not physical

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread John Levon
On 27 Sep 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hmm, perhaps I should repost my design doc? > > Lgb please I would like to read it. I agree that this approach is definitely best, I was misunderstanding JMarc. thanks john p.s. have you looked

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Marko" == Marko Vendelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Marko> Toolbars are good for displaying states (layout & mode for Marko> example) and for rarely used functions. However, since it is Marko> possible to build up toolbars similar to menus by using Marko> multiple toolbars and drop-down

Re: Gnome Toolbar: which interface to use?

2000-09-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> p.s. have you looked at my -ansi squashing patch yet I am going to do it. JMarc