Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Pavel Sanda
somebody enlighten me about this? are keymaps still used or this is some leftover from the time there was no propoer keyboard support under X11? don't remember i need it any time i worked with lyx still our FAQ suggest thats needed for typing in various languages. pavel

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Pavel Sanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can somebody enlighten me about this? are keymaps still used or this is some leftover from the time there was no propoer keyboard support under X11? don't remember i need it any time i worked with lyx still our FAQ suggest thats needed for typing

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Pavel Sanda
Some people do still rely on it IIRC. so its not really mandatory thing for most people, right? pavel

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Pavel Sanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some people do still rely on it IIRC. so its not really mandatory thing for most people, right? No, but we have to keep it. JMarc

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 06:47:37PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Pavel Sanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can somebody enlighten me about this? are keymaps still used or this is some leftover from the time there was no propoer keyboard support under X11? don't remember i need it any

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Pavel Sanda
Some people do still rely on it IIRC. so its not really mandatory thing for most people, right? No, but we have to keep it. no problem i just wanted to change web page accordingly. pavel

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe we just have have a poll. Changing keymaps is pretty straightforward nowadays... People appreciate to be able to do it cross platform. And for things like hebrew typing, being able to customize is useful. Of course, for typing german on a german

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Dov Feldstern
a .kmap file. can somebody enlighten me about this? are keymaps still used or this is some leftover from the time there was no propoer keyboard support under X11? don't remember i need it any time i worked with lyx still our FAQ suggest thats needed for typing in various languages. pavel Hi! Yes

Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Pavel Sanda
somebody enlighten me about this? are keymaps still used or this is some leftover from the time there was no propoer keyboard support under X11? don't remember i need it any time i worked with lyx still our FAQ suggest thats needed for typing in various languages. pavel

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Pavel Sanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > can somebody enlighten me about this? are keymaps still used or this is some > leftover from the time there was no propoer keyboard support under X11? don't > remember i need it any time i worked with lyx still our FAQ suggest thats >

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Pavel Sanda
> Some people do still rely on it IIRC. so its not really mandatory thing for most people, right? pavel

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Pavel Sanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Some people do still rely on it IIRC. > > so its not really mandatory thing for most people, right? No, but we have to keep it. JMarc

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 06:47:37PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Pavel Sanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > can somebody enlighten me about this? are keymaps still used or this is some > > leftover from the time there was no propoer keyboard support under X11?

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Pavel Sanda
> >> Some people do still rely on it IIRC. > > > > so its not really mandatory thing for most people, right? > > No, but we have to keep it. no problem i just wanted to change web page accordingly. pavel

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Maybe we just have have a poll. Changing keymaps is pretty > straightforward nowadays... People appreciate to be able to do it cross platform. And for things like hebrew typing, being able to customize is useful. Of course, for t

Re: Keymaps

2008-01-24 Thread Dov Feldstern
a .kmap file. can somebody enlighten me about this? are keymaps still used or this is some leftover from the time there was no propoer keyboard support under X11? don't remember i need it any time i worked with lyx still our FAQ suggest thats needed for typing in various languages. pavel Hi! Yes

Re: Keymaps

2007-08-01 Thread Dov Feldstern
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 05:20:27PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote: [...] But anyhow, I'm not sure how much any of this is really relevant to the issue of keymaps. What I'm suggesting is that generally, if the user has the use keymaps option marked, then by switching

Re: Keymaps

2007-08-01 Thread Dov Feldstern
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 05:20:27PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote: [...] But anyhow, I'm not sure how much any of this is really relevant to the issue of keymaps. What I'm suggesting is that generally, if the user has the "use keymaps" option marked, then by

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-29 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 04:58:46PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote: Or would I have to write \french{Andr\'e} \german{P\onitz} to get my name right in LyX? Andre' ;) Seriously, though, do you switch keymaps every time you type your name? Or are you already using a keymap which supports

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-29 Thread Andre Poenitz
André is representable in _German_. [...] But anyhow, I'm not sure how much any of this is really relevant to the issue of keymaps. What I'm suggesting is that generally, if the user has the use keymaps option marked, then by switching the language, the keymap will also automatically

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-29 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 04:58:46PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote: > >>>Or would I have to write \french{Andr\'e} \german{P\"onitz} to get my > >>>name right in LyX? > >>> > >>>Andre' > >>> > >>;) > >> > >>Ser

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-29 Thread Andre Poenitz
there has never been any practical problem with that (even in pre-computer times). So I don't know whether "André" is "representable" in _German_. > [...] But anyhow, I'm not sure how much any of this is really relevant > to the issue of keymaps. What I'm suggesting is that

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-27 Thread Dov Feldstern
to write \french{Andr\'e} \german{P\onitz} to get my name right in LyX? Andre' ;) Seriously, though, do you switch keymaps every time you type your name? Or are you already using a keymap which supports these accents? Or do you type in the accents as latex codes? I'm trying to figure out how

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-27 Thread Dov Feldstern
Yes, you should. Technically, it's incorrect to just type in in a different language without letting LyX know about it. It's not a different language. Or would I have to write \french{Andr\'e} \german{P\onitz} to get my name right in LyX? Andre' Seriously, though, do you switch keymaps every

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-27 Thread Dov Feldstern
to write \french{Andr\'e} \german{P\"onitz} to get my name right in LyX? Andre' ;) Seriously, though, do you switch keymaps every time you type your name? Or are you already using a keymap which supports these accents? Or do you type in the accents as latex codes? I'm trying to figure ou

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-27 Thread Dov Feldstern
Yes, you should. Technically, it's incorrect to just type in in a different language without letting LyX know about it. It's not a different language. Or would I have to write \french{Andr\'e} \german{P\"onitz} to get my name right in LyX? Andre' Seriously, though, do you switch ke

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-22 Thread christian . ridderstrom
. Technically, it's incorrect to just type in in a different language without letting LyX know about it. It's not a different language. Or would I have to write \french{Andr\'e} \german{P\onitz} to get my name right in LyX? Andre' Seriously, though, do you switch keymaps every time you type your name

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-22 Thread christian . ridderstrom
. Technically, it's incorrect to just type in in a different language without letting LyX know about it. It's not a different language. Or would I have to write \french{Andr\'e} \german{P\"onitz} to get my name right in LyX? Andre' Seriously, though, do you switch keymaps every time you type your

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-21 Thread Dov Feldstern
' ;) Seriously, though, do you switch keymaps every time you type your name? Or are you already using a keymap which supports these accents? Or do you type in the accents as latex codes? I'm trying to figure out how keymaps are used before starting to make any changes... Dov

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-21 Thread Andre Poenitz
\french{Andr\'e} \german{P\onitz} to get my name right in LyX? Andre' ;) Seriously, though, do you switch keymaps every time you type your name? Or are you already using a keymap which supports these accents? Or do you type in the accents as latex codes? I'm trying to figure out how

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-21 Thread Dov Feldstern
Andre' ;) Seriously, though, do you switch keymaps every time you type your name? Or are you already using a keymap which supports these accents? Or do you type in the accents as latex codes? I'm trying to figure out how keymaps are used before starting to make any changes... Dov

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-21 Thread Andre Poenitz
st the name? > >>> > >>>/Christian > >>> > >>Yes, you should. Technically, it's incorrect to just type in in a > >>different language without letting LyX know about it. > > > >It's not a different language. > > > >Or would

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-20 Thread Dov Feldstern
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Dov Feldstern wrote: 3) With a keymap, we (the LyX programmers) are in control. Two examples: (a) Almost always, a keymap switch should be accompanied by a language switch, or vice-versa. I'm not sure I agree about with the assumption about

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-20 Thread Dov Feldstern
the language will automatically Dov switch to the associated keymap. What about the opposite: allow keymaps to define an associated language, or even a list of languages. Then, when the cursor is on a text with a given language, change to a keymap that supports this language (with some algorithm

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-20 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 03:46:32PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Dov Feldstern wrote: 3) With a keymap, we (the LyX programmers) are in control. Two examples: (a) Almost always, a keymap switch should be accompanied by a language switch, or

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-20 Thread Dov Feldstern
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Dov Feldstern wrote: 3) With a keymap, we (the LyX programmers) are in control. Two examples: (a) Almost always, a keymap switch should be accompanied by a language switch, or vice-versa. I'm not sure I agree about with the assumption about

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-20 Thread Dov Feldstern
n, then switching the language will automatically Dov> switch to the associated keymap. What about the opposite: allow keymaps to define an associated language, or even a list of languages. Then, when the cursor is on a text with a given language, change to a keymap that supports this langua

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-20 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 03:46:32PM +0300, Dov Feldstern wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Dov Feldstern wrote: > > > >>3) With a keymap, we (the LyX programmers) are in control. Two examples: > >>(a) Almost always, a keymap switch should be accompanied by a language >

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-03 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
still keep around the commands / options / lfuns for switching keymaps, and we could just give them the semantics of override language keymap until turned off, or something like that. I don't think this would be too much work, either. How does this sound? Sounds good to me, at least for users

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-03 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Dov Feldstern wrote: 3) With a keymap, we (the LyX programmers) are in control. Two examples: (a) Almost always, a keymap switch should be accompanied by a language switch, or vice-versa. I'm not sure I agree about with the assumption about almost always switching

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
keymap. What about the opposite: allow keymaps to define an associated language, or even a list of languages. Then, when the cursor is on a text with a given language, change to a keymap that supports this language (with some algorithm that remains to determine). I am not sure why, but I prefer

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-03 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
, we could still keep around the commands / options / lfuns for switching keymaps, and we could just give them the semantics of "override language keymap until turned off", or something like that. I don't think this would be too much work, either. How does this sound? Sounds

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-03 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Dov Feldstern wrote: 3) With a keymap, we (the LyX programmers) are in control. Two examples: (a) Almost always, a keymap switch should be accompanied by a language switch, or vice-versa. I'm not sure I agree about with the assumption about almost always switching

Re: Keymaps

2007-07-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
ferences is on, then switching the language will automatically Dov> switch to the associated keymap. What about the opposite: allow keymaps to define an associated language, or even a list of languages. Then, when the cursor is on a text with a given language, change to a keymap that supports

Keymaps

2007-07-02 Thread Dov Feldstern
Hi! [Don't worry, this is for post-1.5.0] A few times in the past month or two, the issue of whether or not keymaps should be used has come up. I would like to defend the position which says: yes, keymaps are good! and suggest an improvement in how they're used. Let me just start out

Keymaps

2007-07-02 Thread Dov Feldstern
Hi! [Don't worry, this is for post-1.5.0] A few times in the past month or two, the issue of whether or not keymaps should be used has come up. I would like to defend the position which says: yes, keymaps are good! and suggest an improvement in how they're used. Let me just start out

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
José == José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: José On Sunday 17 September 2006 20:32, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Other opinions on this? José I agree, I do not see anyone using this since at least 1.1.x Not true. There is even an update to the latvian keymap that has been posted to bugzilla

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars So imho, keyboard maps, keymaps and the like should disapear, Lars the frontend/windowing system should handle composing chars and Lars dead-keys. Do we have a way to ask the qt/gtk key input machinery to do that for us? I mean, having

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager. I'd like to get rid of these. They were added ages ago to alleviate problems with X,xforms and the desktopsystems we had then (the non-existing ones). It is not LyX's job to have keymaps, keyboard maps and the like. Even

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars So imho, keyboard maps, keymaps and the like should disapear, | Lars the frontend/windowing system should handle composing chars and | Lars dead-keys. | | Do we have a way to ask

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager. | I'd like to get rid of these. They were added ages ago to alleviate | problems with X,xforms and the desktopsystems we had then (the | non-existing ones). It is not LyX's job

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
. But at the same time, I want single quote to be a single quote in my terminal window. This is what keymaps provide. Lars Usefule is one thing, required or if it is something we should Lars support is quite another. Lars Your example looks more like compose. Except that I do not need to use compose

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: All desktops I know of support this if you setup the correct keyboard and/or locale. Hum... Enchant support Aspell much better than LyX... Lars' hat So prove first that this is possible, implement relevant helper codes if any and then remove the feature. /Lars' hat

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
that? | | I like that when writing in french with my US keyboard. But at the | same time, I want single quote to be a single quote in my terminal | window. This is what keymaps provide. And why should you not setup your desktop keymap to support this? and for unicode it is my belif that keymaps does

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
the reason for the #if. | | I don't think so... But you probably don't see the irony there's here ;-) | | FWIW, I think it's OK to remove this feature if you know how to | provide this in another manner. I am just playing the devil's advocate | here. J-M is correct that when using the desktops keymaps

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | All desktops I know of support this if you setup the correct keyboard | and/or locale. | | Hum... Enchant support Aspell much better than LyX... | | Lars' hat So prove first that this is

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: No. Lars: Do not remove support for the current spellcheckers until you have something new that works. Isn't that exactly what branches are made for? Why can't you guys clone a fresh branch, cut out the spell checker and plug in enchant. If that works out and is

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars If you entered the way you did in the example, then you have to Lars use compose. :-) No, because the fracc.el emacs package allows that :) In french, '+e=é is not convenient because of our use of quotes (like l'escalier). But typing

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars If you entered the way you did in the example, then you have to | Lars use compose. :-) | | No, because the fracc.el emacs package allows that :) In french, '+e=é | is not convenient

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
frontends can do before nuking keymaps (and yes I agree that this code is ugly). Lars (You don't enter the '+' explicitly do you?) No. JMarc

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 09:32:13PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Other opinions on this? Not really. I never understood that part anyway... Andre'

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "José" == José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: José> On Sunday 17 September 2006 20:32, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >> Other opinions on this? José> I agree, I do not see anyone using this since at least 1.1.x Not true. There is even an update to the latvian keymap that has been posted

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> So imho, keyboard maps, keymaps and the like should disapear, Lars> the frontend/windowing system should handle composing chars and Lars> dead-keys. Do we have a way to ask the qt/gtk

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager. I'd like to get rid of these. They were added ages ago to alleviate problems with X,xforms and the desktopsystems we had then (the non-existing ones). It is not LyX's job to have keymaps, keyboard maps and the like. Even

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | >>>>> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> So imho, keyboard maps, keymaps and the like should disapear, | Lars> the frontend/windowing system should handle composing c

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager. | > I'd like to get rid of these. They were added ages ago to alleviate | > problems with X,xforms and the desktopsystems we had then (the | >

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
when writing in french with my US keyboard. But at the same time, I want single quote to be a single quote in my terminal window. This is what keymaps provide. Lars> Usefule is one thing, required or if it is something we should Lars> support is quite another. Lars> Your example looks mo

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: All desktops I know of support this if you setup the correct keyboard and/or locale. Hum... Enchant support Aspell much better than LyX... So prove first that this is possible, implement relevant helper codes if any and then remove the feature. |

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
er | | apps? | | Lars> Why would we need that? | | I like that when writing in french with my US keyboard. But at the | same time, I want single quote to be a single quote in my terminal | window. This is what keymaps provide. And why should you not setup your desktop keymap to suppo

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
el? | > Seems you missed the reason for the #if. | | I don't think so... But you probably don't see the irony there's here ;-) | | FWIW, I think it's OK to remove this feature if you know how to | provide this in another manner. I am just playing the devil's advocate | here. J-M is correct that when

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > All desktops I know of support this if you setup the correct keyboard | > and/or locale. | | Hum... Enchant support Aspell much better than LyX... | | So prove first that this

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > No. Lars: Do not remove support for the current spellcheckers until > you have something new that works. Isn't that exactly what branches are made for? Why can't you guys clone a fresh branch, cut out the spell checker and plug in enchant. If that works out and is

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> If you entered the way you did in the example, then you have to Lars> use compose. :-) No, because the fracc.el emacs package allows that :) In french, '+e=é is not convenient because of our use of quotes (like l'escalier).

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> If you entered the way you did in the example, then you have to | Lars> use compose. :-) | | No, because the fracc.el emacs package allows that :) In french, '+e=é | is

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
proposed earlier. I think we should have a look at what frontends can do before nuking keymaps (and yes I agree that this code is ugly). Lars> (You don't enter the '+' explicitly do you?) No. JMarc

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-18 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 09:32:13PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Other opinions on this? Not really. I never understood that part anyway... Andre'

Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-17 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager. I'd like to get rid of these. They were added ages ago to alleviate problems with X,xforms and the desktopsystems we had then (the non-existing ones). It is not LyX's job to have keymaps, keyboard maps and the like. Even dead keys is supported through

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-17 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 17 September 2006 20:32, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Other opinions on this? I agree, I do not see anyone using this since at least 1.1.x -- Lgb -- José Abílio

Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-17 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager. I'd like to get rid of these. They were added ages ago to alleviate problems with X,xforms and the desktopsystems we had then (the non-existing ones). It is not LyX's job to have keymaps, keyboard maps and the like. Even dead keys is supported through

Re: Intl (lyx keymaps) and the transmanager

2006-09-17 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 17 September 2006 20:32, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Other opinions on this? I agree, I do not see anyone using this since at least 1.1.x > -- > Lgb -- José Abílio

Re: keymaps

2001-07-16 Thread Andre Poenitz
Can some developers that uses keymaps regurlarly(?) please try them now. I do not thing that they are correct, but should be better than before the weekend. The keymaps still do not work in e.g. the minibuffer, and I still get passed unmapped keys into mathed... [Ok, this has been that way

Re: keymaps

2001-07-16 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Can some developers that uses keymaps regurlarly(?) please try them | now. I do not thing that they are correct, but should be better than | before the weekend. | | The keymaps still do not work in e.g. the minibuffer, ...and they never did

Re: keymaps

2001-07-16 Thread Andre Poenitz
| and I still get | passed unmapped keys into mathed... that is worse... but I guess that this is really mathed's localdispatch or the calling dispatch at fault. Mathed's LFUN_SELFINSERT is called with unmapped chars from above (and I believe this has been that way from the very beginning)

Re: keymaps

2001-07-16 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | and I still get | | passed unmapped keys into mathed... | | that is worse... but I guess that this is really mathed's | localdispatch or the calling dispatch at fault. | | Mathed's LFUN_SELFINSERT is called with unmapped chars from above (and I

Re: keymaps

2001-07-16 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 05:48:14PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Can some developers that uses keymaps regurlarly(?) please try them now. I do not thing that they are correct, but should be better than before the weekend. The Hebrew keymaps now works.

Re: keymaps

2001-07-16 Thread Andre Poenitz
> Can some developers that uses keymaps regurlarly(?) please try them > now. I do not thing that they are correct, but should be better than > before the weekend. The keymaps still do not work in e.g. the minibuffer, and I still get passed unmapped keys into mathed... [Ok, this

Re: keymaps

2001-07-16 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > Can some developers that uses keymaps regurlarly(?) please try them | > now. I do not thing that they are correct, but should be better than | > before the weekend. | | The keymaps still do not work in e.g. the minibuffer, ...and

Re: keymaps

2001-07-16 Thread Andre Poenitz
> | and I still get > | passed unmapped keys into mathed... > > that is worse... but I guess that this is really mathed's > localdispatch or the calling dispatch at fault. Mathed's LFUN_SELFINSERT is called with unmapped chars from above (and I believe this has been that way from the very

Re: keymaps

2001-07-16 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | and I still get | > | passed unmapped keys into mathed... | > | > that is worse... but I guess that this is really mathed's | > localdispatch or the calling dispatch at fault. | | Mathed's LFUN_SELFINSERT is called with unmapped chars from above

Re: keymaps

2001-07-16 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 05:48:14PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > Can some developers that uses keymaps regurlarly(?) please try them > now. I do not thing that they are correct, but should be better than > before the weekend. The Hebrew keymaps now works.

Broken keymaps

2001-07-13 Thread Dekel Tsur
The change to trans_mgr.C/trans.C from 2001-07-07 breaks handling of keymaps. For example, when using the Hebrew keymap and pressing 'a', in Trans::process() the value of c is 'a', and the value of t is ù. In the old code, k.normalkey(c, dt) correctly returns ù, but in the new code, k.normalkey(c

Re: Broken keymaps

2001-07-13 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | The change to trans_mgr.C/trans.C from 2001-07-07 breaks handling of keymaps. | For example, when using the Hebrew keymap and pressing 'a', | in Trans::process() the value of c is 'a', and the value of t is ù. | In the old code, k.normalkey(c, dt) correctly

Broken keymaps

2001-07-13 Thread Dekel Tsur
The change to trans_mgr.C/trans.C from 2001-07-07 breaks handling of keymaps. For example, when using the Hebrew keymap and pressing 'a', in Trans::process() the value of c is 'a', and the value of t is "ù". In the old code, k.normalkey(c, dt) correctly returns "ù",

Re: Broken keymaps

2001-07-13 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | The change to trans_mgr.C/trans.C from 2001-07-07 breaks handling of keymaps. | For example, when using the Hebrew keymap and pressing 'a', | in Trans::process() the value of c is 'a', and the value of t is "ù". | In the old code, k