Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Alejandro" == Alejandro Aguilar Sierra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alejandro In general I agree with Jean Marc, except: Martin 4. Comparison with Word and WP -- hesitant. I am hesitant about the principle, but the paragraph is interesting. You could change the beginning to ``Compared to

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Martin" == Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin What we need really is not so much NUMERICALLY more classes Martin and layouts, but ways to tailor the ones we have in many small Martin ways. Like the "geometry" package does already for the margins Martin and the Allan Rae thing for

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Alejandro" == Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alejandro> In general I agree with Jean Marc, except: Martin> 4. Comparison with Word and WP -- hesitant. >> I am hesitant about the principle, but the paragraph is >> interesting. You could change the beginning to

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> What we need really is not so much NUMERICALLY more classes Martin> and layouts, but ways to tailor the ones we have in many small Martin> ways. Like the "geometry" package does already for the margins Martin> and the Allan Rae

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-23 Thread John Weiss
Okay, here's that letter with some ideas/suggestions. On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:14:25AM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: LyX -- The Ultimate Document Processor -- Bzzzt. Definitely nix the "Ultimate" --- too braggadocio. I also think calling it "The

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-23 Thread John Weiss
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 01:33:18PM -0500, Amir Karger wrote: Without active leadership, net projects die quickly. Remember the doc project? Other than Mike, who (including me!) has written any docs lately? And yet I could've sworn the idea was to have the docs set up perfectly for v1.0.

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-23 Thread John Weiss
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:40:07AM -0500, Larry S. Marso wrote: We could target a press release and ship it off to all the authors of recent media pieces about open source and WordPerfect coming to Linux (lexis-nexis: .ns;open source or Wordperfect w/i 5 linux). This is, potentially, a

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-23 Thread John Weiss
Okay, here's that letter with some ideas/suggestions. On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:14:25AM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: > LyX -- The Ultimate Document Processor > -- Bzzzt. Definitely nix the "Ultimate" --- too braggadocio. I also think calling it "The

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-23 Thread John Weiss
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 01:33:18PM -0500, Amir Karger wrote: > Without active leadership, net projects die quickly. Remember the doc > project? Other than Mike, who (including me!) has written any docs lately? > And yet I could've sworn the idea was to have the docs set up perfectly for > v1.0. >

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-23 Thread John Weiss
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:40:07AM -0500, Larry S. Marso wrote: > We could target a press release > and ship it off to all the authors of recent media pieces about open > source and WordPerfect coming to Linux (lexis-nexis: .ns;open source or > Wordperfect w/i 5 linux). This is, potentially, a

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Larry S. Marso
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:03:51PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Martin 1. Which text to use as basis for further work. Mine, or Martin Larry's? Yours, of course. I think the latest version is pretty good and was rather surprised to see Larry qualify it as 'weak'... Certainly, yours,

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Martin Vermeer
"Martin" == Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin ... more convenient for some of you. I read it, and I like what I saw, beside some comments from Larry with which I happen to agree (see my answer to him). I think this language Which are those? draws a reasonable line

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Martin" == Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin ... more convenient for some of you. I read it, and I like what I saw, beside some comments from Larry with which I happen to agree (see my answer to him). I think this language draws a reasonable line between boring technical

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
I've asked the list a couple of times whether there was sufficient interest in collecting together examples documents, for us to establish an ftp site where people could post their efforts. There has never been much of a response, which I suggests my views are atypical. This is a great

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Larry S. Marso
The question most interesting to me is whether there is interest in treating the 1.0 release as a major breakpoint, a time to attract (and assist) new users for the LyX platform. A formal effort would certainly require a period of time set aside to the task of preparing new accompanying

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Martin Vermeer
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:33:31 +0200 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The question most interesting to me is whether there is interest in treating the 1.0 release as a major breakpoint, a time to attract (and assist) new users for the LyX platform. A formal effort would certainly require a

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
In general I agree with Jean Marc, except: Martin 4. Comparison with Word and WP -- hesitant. I am hesitant about the principle, but the paragraph is interesting. You could change the beginning to ``Compared to classical Word Processors like WordPerfect or Microsoft Word,...''. If you

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Amir Karger
Larry, you've made some very good points. Most of the folks on the devel list have been using LyX for a long time, and it's hard for us to look at it from the perspective of new users, especially ones who don't even know LaTeX. That said, I think it's too late to stop 1.0. The LyXers have been

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Amir Karger
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 11:32:05AM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: "Martin" == Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, I am rather lost now. So how to continue? 1. Which text to use as basis for further work. Mine, or Larry's? Yours. Larry's can go into an article and/or the

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Larry S. Marso
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 01:58:26PM -0500, Amir Karger wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 11:32:05AM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: 3. Mention Linux and Open Source. (LyX AND LaTeX) Yes. (But remember, LyX is not ONLY for Linux). I'm a FreeBSD user, and haven't had a Linux partition for two

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Garst R. Reese
Martin Vermeer wrote: "Martin" == Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin ... more convenient for some of you. I read it, and I like what I saw, beside some comments from Larry with which I happen to agree (see my answer to him). I think this language Which are those?

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Larry S. Marso
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:03:51PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Martin> 1. Which text to use as basis for further work. Mine, or > Martin> Larry's? > > Yours, of course. I think the latest version is pretty good and was > rather surprised to see Larry qualify it as 'weak'... Certainly,

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Martin Vermeer
> > "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Martin> ... more convenient for some of you. > > I read it, and I like what I saw, beside some comments from Larry with > which I happen to agree (see my answer to him). I think this language Which are those? > draws a

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> ... more convenient for some of you. I read it, and I like what I saw, beside some comments from Larry with which I happen to agree (see my answer to him). I think this language draws a reasonable line between boring technical

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> I've asked the list a couple of times whether there was sufficient interest > in collecting together examples documents, for us to establish an ftp site > where people could post their efforts. There has never been much of a > response, which I suggests my views are atypical. This is a great

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Larry S. Marso
The question most interesting to me is whether there is interest in treating the 1.0 release as a major breakpoint, a time to attract (and assist) new users for the LyX platform. A formal effort would certainly require a period of time set aside to the task of preparing new accompanying

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Martin Vermeer
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:33:31 +0200 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The question most interesting to me is whether there is interest in > treating the 1.0 release as a major breakpoint, a time to attract (and > assist) new users for the LyX platform. > > A formal effort would certainly require

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
In general I agree with Jean Marc, except: > Martin> 4. Comparison with Word and WP -- hesitant. > > I am hesitant about the principle, but the paragraph is > interesting. You could change the beginning to ``Compared to classical > Word Processors like WordPerfect or Microsoft Word,...''. If

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Amir Karger
Larry, you've made some very good points. Most of the folks on the devel list have been using LyX for a long time, and it's hard for us to look at it from the perspective of new users, especially ones who don't even know LaTeX. That said, I think it's too late to stop 1.0. The LyXers have been

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Amir Karger
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 11:32:05AM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Anyway, I am rather lost now. So how to continue? > > 1. Which text to use as basis for further work. Mine, or Larry's? Yours. Larry's can go into an article

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Larry S. Marso
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 01:58:26PM -0500, Amir Karger wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 11:32:05AM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > 3. Mention Linux and Open Source. (LyX AND LaTeX) Yes. (But remember, > > LyX is not ONLY for Linux). I'm a FreeBSD user, and haven't had a Linux partition for

Re: New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-22 Thread Garst R. Reese
Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > > "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Martin> ... more convenient for some of you. > > > > I read it, and I like what I saw, beside some comments from Larry with > > which I happen to agree (see my answer to him). I think this language >

New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-21 Thread Martin Vermeer
... more convenient for some of you. Martin Public release of LyX version 1.0.0 === LyX -- The Ultimate Document Processor -- LyX is a free document processor providing a structure based approach to writing documents on

New PR interim as attachment

1999-01-21 Thread Martin Vermeer
... more convenient for some of you. Martin Public release of LyX version 1.0.0 === LyX -- The Ultimate Document Processor -- LyX is a free document processor providing a structure based approach to writing documents on