On Fri, Jan 07, 2000 at 09:14:40AM +0100, Juergen Vigna wrote:
> Rehi Jose!
Don't you think this taking too far the idea of code reuse? ;-)
> On 06-Jan-2000 Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote:
> >
> > There are other issues, the insets aren't supposed to be configured
> > from the textclasses
On Fri, Jan 07, 2000 at 02:49:56PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>
> What I mean is that, there could be functions to handle a font stack
> and output the right lyx commands. Or to say 'set layout to 'foo'. Or
> to parse the .layout files and put relevant info in a data structure.
> Or to bu
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> For example for the documentation we could have different insets to
>> refer to author name, for filenames, for button, menus or popup
>> names. Ok, maybe this is too much markup, but it is an idea, what
>> do other think?
Andre> Some
> "Amir" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Amir> I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. I suspect the
Amir> answer would be "pretty difficult", because reLyX is I think
Amir> pretty dependent on the input being LaTeX.
What I mean is that, there could be functions to handle a
On 06-Jan-2000 Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
> Maybe there is a Better Thing. The current LyX format is far from being
> perfect. It works, yes, but it is not as simple as it could be and this
> is a major pain when it comes to interoperation with the rest of the
> world.
>
> Switch to some XMLish .ne
Rehi Jose!
On 06-Jan-2000 Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote:
>
> There are other issues, the insets aren't supposed to be configured
> from the textclasses. Also you need to translate some of the chars, like
> < > & # % (maybe) ...
> The docbook approach is a good first step for a general xml
> > and also, since Perl is a better text processor than C++,
>
> I thought Perl was a good-for-nothing write-only snail-speed language!
I stay away from Perl, but the world is full of fools.
> Well, my brother's a CS professor. When I was bragging at him about how
> reLyX worked so well, as lo
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 08:37:31PM +0100, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote:
> > Actually, why at the beginning LyX didn't write LaTeX directly but had
> > its own LyX format? I suppose that's because LaTeX is too complicated to
> > parse, right?
>
[lots of erudite discussion snipped]
> The
Regarding the current discussion about the document model:
At the moment, LyX supports linear paragraph, one-deep floats
(footnotes), and insets.
LyX does currently not support real nesting of content.
I think of the problem like this:
The document model is a tree. At the top, the root node
is
> Actually, why at the beginning LyX didn't write LaTeX directly but had
> its own LyX format? I suppose that's because LaTeX is too complicated to
> parse, right?
The primary reason is that LyX and LaTeX are not the same.
LyX uses a document model which, granted, is close to LaTeX,
but it
Andre Poenitz wrote:
> Maybe there is a Better Thing. The current LyX format is far from being
> perfect. It works, yes, but it is not as simple as it could be and this
> is a major pain when it comes to interoperation with the rest of the
> world.
>
> Switch to some XMLish .newlyx format, and pa
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 01:54:10PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Jose" == Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Jose> No related but... the major difficulty in importing docbook in
> Jose> lyx is the absence of a library to write the lyx format. Only
> Jose> t
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> Maybe there is a Better Thing. The current LyX format is far
Andre> from being perfect. It works, yes, but it is not as simple as
Andre> it could be and this is a major pain when it comes to
Andre> interoperation with the rest of t
> Jose> No related but... the major difficulty in importing docbook in
> Jose> lyx is the absence of a library to write the lyx format. Only
> Jose> the idea of writing lyx format without help scares. I have done
> Jose> this before with sgml2lyx, but I have lost the courage since
> Jose> then..
> "Jose" == Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jose> No related but... the major difficulty in importing docbook in
Jose> lyx is the absence of a library to write the lyx format. Only
Jose> the idea of writing lyx format without help scares. I have done
Jose> this before
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 12:23:00PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > That is true, one of my most expected features is a better inset, and also
> > the possibility to have general insets.
>
> Ok, suppose it were practically possible to configure such a general inset
> from a file (which I believ
> That is true, one of my most expected features is a better inset, and also
> the possibility to have general insets.
Ok, suppose it were practically possible to configure such a general inset
from a file (which I believe is at least theoretically possible).
Would this be the prefered approac
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:46:03AM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > There are other issues, the insets aren't supposed to be configured
> > from the textclasses.
>
> I am aware of this but I do not know how this situation arose.
> Is it just heritage?
Partially it is heritage but I think tha
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> It is just that not everything can be done from a layout
>> description.
Andre> I doubt that, at least from a theoretical point of view.
Andre> Of course I have no idea how this could be done practically...
You mean for example tha
> Andre> Given that layouts are powerful and everything on a
> Andre> sub-paragraph level is much more messy, I'd say it'd be nice to
> Andre> be able to have sub-paragraph stuff in layouts, too. Is there
> Andre> any rationale behind the current distinction?
>
> It is just that not everything ca
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> Given that layouts are powerful and everything on a
Andre> sub-paragraph level is much more messy, I'd say it'd be nice to
Andre> be able to have sub-paragraph stuff in layouts, too. Is there
Andre> any rationale behind the current
> There are other issues, the insets aren't supposed to be configured
> from the textclasses.
I am aware of this but I do not know how this situation arose.
Is it just heritage?
Given that layouts are powerful and everything on a sub-paragraph level
is much more messy, I'd say it'd be nice to
> I can see that this is a complete different approach (more or less
> orthogonal to what I was suggesting)
> but am not quite sure how this would work once it is 'perfect'.
> I try to describe my impression of the current philosophy, please
> correct me if I am wrong:
>
> ,,If I want to have a
On Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 12:36:50PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> Andre> 2. Layouts. I think this could be a good place to put in some
> Andre> export and probably even import information. E.g. in addition
> Andre> to LatexT
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> I can see that this is a complete different approach (more or
Andre> less orthogonal to what I was suggesting) but am not quite sure
Andre> how this would work once it is 'perfect'. I try to describe my
Andre> impression of the cur
> english. I do not do what we can do about that (moreover, big popups
> are a problem for some displays).
Understandable.
> Andre> 2. Layouts. I think this could be a good place to put in some
> Andre> export and probably even import information. E.g. in addition
> Andre> to LatexType and Late
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> First of all I have to thank all of you for your work on LyX.
Andre> Well, this may sound a bit strange for those used to my usual
Andre> statements, but I am quite serious.
Thanks :)
Andre> 1. In most of the German popups the l
First of all I have to thank all of you for your work on LyX.
Well, this may sound a bit strange for those used to my usual statements,
but I am quite serious. Yesterday when I came home I found my girlfriend
fiddling with the German ,,version`` of LyX preparing slides for a
lecture she is supp
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