RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Leuven, E.
Alfredo Braunstein wrote: Specially with new document classes I normally don't know what the layouts really are so I switch back and forth several times... i agree that the only situation where this might reasonably occur is when switching document classes. so given that: - people don't

RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Leuven, E. wrote: - case 1 2 are rare No, they're not. Jürgen

RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Leuven, E.
- case 1 2 are rare No, they're not. where do you get your stats from?

RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Leuven, E. wrote: No, they're not. where do you get your stats from? Where do you get your stats from? I just think it's wrong to assume that justified is the de facto standard alignment. This might be true for standard paragraphs in most book and article classes, for others it is not. I

RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Leuven, E.
Alfredo Braunstein wrote: Let me give you another case: I often write my titles first in Standard Layout and *then* switch the layout to Title. With your approach I would have to manually center it. Awful. no. reread what i wrote: i would be fine with having the default take precedence in

RE: RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Leuven, E.
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Where do you get your stats from? from a very reliable source I just think it's wrong to assume that justified is the de facto standard alignment. ? you are misunderstanding me. the inset/layout should tell us what the default is (and i think it does at the

RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Alfredo Braunstein
Leuven, E. wrote: so given that: - people don't switch document classes often (i for example never do) - switching document layouts often involve information loss because they do not define similar environments - case 1 2 are rare Let me give you another case: I often write my titles

RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Alfredo Braunstein
Leuven, E. wrote: Alfredo Braunstein wrote: Let me give you another case: I often write my titles first in Standard Layout and *then* switch the layout to Title. With your approach I would have to manually center it. Awful. no. reread what i wrote: That implies I've read it in the

RE: RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Leuven, E. wrote: you are misunderstanding me. the inset/layout should tell us what the default is (and i think it does at the moment). so sometimes this will be justified, in other cases center, etc. I obviously did. Sorry. I'm still not entirely convinced. Jürgen

RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Leuven, E.
I obviously did. Sorry. I'm still not entirely convinced. i was thinking like the attached... Index: src/frontends/qt4/QParagraph.cpp === --- src/frontends/qt4/QParagraph.cpp (revision 18850) +++ src/frontends/qt4/QParagraph.cpp

RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Leuven, E.
Alfredo Braunstein wrote: > Specially with new document classes I normally don't know what the layouts > really are so I switch back and forth several times... i agree that the only situation where this might reasonably occur is when switching document classes. so given that: - people don't

RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Leuven, E. wrote: > - case 1 & 2 are rare No, they're not. Jürgen

RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Leuven, E.
>> - case 1 & 2 are rare > > No, they're not. where do you get your stats from?

RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Leuven, E. wrote: >> No, they're not. > > where do you get your stats from? Where do you get your stats from? I just think it's wrong to assume that justified is the de facto "standard" alignment. This might be true for standard paragraphs in most book and article classes, for others it is

RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Leuven, E.
Alfredo Braunstein wrote: > Let me give you another case: I often write my titles first in Standard > Layout and *then* switch the layout to Title. With your approach I would > have to manually center it. Awful. no. reread what i wrote: "i would be fine with having the default take precedence

RE: RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Leuven, E.
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > Where do you get your stats from? from a very reliable source > I just think it's wrong to assume that justified is the de facto "standard" > alignment. ? you are misunderstanding me. the inset/layout should tell us what the default is (and i think it does at

RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Alfredo Braunstein
Leuven, E. wrote: > so given that: > > - people don't switch document classes often (i for example never do) > - switching document layouts often involve information loss because they > do not define similar environments - case 1 & 2 are rare Let me give you another case: I often write my

RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Alfredo Braunstein
Leuven, E. wrote: > Alfredo Braunstein wrote: >> Let me give you another case: I often write my titles first in Standard >> Layout and *then* switch the layout to Title. With your approach I would >> have to manually center it. Awful. > > no. > > reread what i wrote: That implies I've read it

RE: RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Leuven, E. wrote: > you are misunderstanding me. the inset/layout should tell us what the > default is (and i think it does at the moment). so sometimes this will be > justified, in other cases center, etc. I obviously did. Sorry. I'm still not entirely convinced. Jürgen

RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: No paragraph alignment options

2007-06-22 Thread Leuven, E.
> I obviously did. Sorry. I'm still not entirely convinced. i was thinking like the attached... Index: src/frontends/qt4/QParagraph.cpp === --- src/frontends/qt4/QParagraph.cpp (revision 18850) +++ src/frontends/qt4/QParagraph.cpp