Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-25 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 08:18:05PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 03:51:26PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 02:13:55AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 02:23:28PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: What about deciding that

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-25 Thread Alfredo Braunstein
On 9/25/07, Enrico Forestieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hrmpf. I have results different from yours. I ran three times the commands and took the lowest real value. Note that user and sys values practically didn't change between runs. How much memory do your sun and linux boxes have? In my

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-25 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:10:29PM +0200, Alfredo Braunstein wrote: On 9/25/07, Enrico Forestieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hrmpf. I have results different from yours. I ran three times the commands and took the lowest real value. Note that user and sys values practically didn't change

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-25 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 08:18:05PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 03:51:26PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 02:13:55AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 02:23:28PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > > > > What about

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-25 Thread Alfredo Braunstein
On 9/25/07, Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hrmpf. > > I have results different from yours. I ran three times the commands > and took the lowest "real" value. Note that "user" and "sys" values > practically didn't change between runs. How much memory do your sun and linux boxes

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-25 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:10:29PM +0200, Alfredo Braunstein wrote: > On 9/25/07, Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hrmpf. > > > > I have results different from yours. I ran three times the commands > > and took the lowest "real" value. Note that "user" and "sys" values > >

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:19:47PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: Little puzzle for you: What belongs together? Configurations: (A) current svn, --enable-pch (B) current svn, --disable-pch At some point, pch defaulted to on, and it broke the build for me. I

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 03:51:26PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 02:13:55AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 02:23:28PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: What about deciding that we do not install the libraries? Of course, this would imply

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:19:47PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > Andre Poenitz wrote: > >Little puzzle for you: > > > >What belongs together? > > > >Configurations: > > > > (A) current svn, --enable-pch > > (B) current svn, --disable-pch > > > At some point, pch defaulted to on, and it broke the

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 03:51:26PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 02:13:55AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 02:23:28PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > > > What about deciding that we do not install the libraries? Of course, > > > > this

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-21 Thread Helge Hafting
Andre Poenitz wrote: Little puzzle for you: What belongs together? Configurations: (A) current svn, --enable-pch (B) current svn, --disable-pch At some point, pch defaulted to on, and it broke the build for me. I have used --disable-pch since then. Is it problem-free to use these days?

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-21 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 02:13:55AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 02:23:28PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: What about deciding that we do not install the libraries? Of course, this would imply that an installable LyX is a static one, but I am not sure we care much

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-21 Thread Helge Hafting
Andre Poenitz wrote: Little puzzle for you: What belongs together? Configurations: (A) current svn, --enable-pch (B) current svn, --disable-pch At some point, pch defaulted to on, and it broke the build for me. I have used --disable-pch since then. Is it problem-free to use these days?

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-21 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 02:13:55AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 02:23:28PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > > What about deciding that we do not install the libraries? Of course, > > > this would imply that an installable LyX is a static one, but I am not > > > sure we

Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I remember that Lars had some good numbers when he wanted to push pch. I have good numbers when I want to push something as well... Now that you talk about you pushing something: with your changes to allow building with shared libraries, the

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-20 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 10:32:54AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I remember that Lars had some good numbers when he wanted to push pch. I have good numbers when I want to push something as well... Now that you talk about you pushing

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-20 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 10:32:54AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I remember that Lars had some good numbers when he wanted to push pch. I have good numbers when I want to push something as well... Now that you talk about you pushing

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-20 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 02:23:28PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: What about deciding that we do not install the libraries? Of course, this would imply that an installable LyX is a static one, but I am not sure we care much about distributing dynamic versions anyway. We could for example

Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> But I remember that Lars had some good numbers when he wanted to push >> pch. > > I have good numbers when I want to push something as well... Now that you talk about you pushing something: with your changes to allow building with shared libraries,

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-20 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 10:32:54AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> But I remember that Lars had some good numbers when he wanted to push > >> pch. > > > > I have good numbers when I want to push something as well... > > Now that you talk

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-20 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 10:32:54AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> But I remember that Lars had some good numbers when he wanted to push > >> pch. > > > > I have good numbers when I want to push something as well... > > Now that you talk

Re: Installing libraries (was: Re: Small puzzle.)

2007-09-20 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 02:23:28PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > What about deciding that we do not install the libraries? Of course, > > this would imply that an installable LyX is a static one, but I am not > > sure we care much about distributing dynamic versions anyway. We could > > for

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:15:25PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: Possible conclusions: Precompiled headers are a waste of time and space. 22% increase on compile times, ~300% increase on disk space. Could somebody please try the same test with a different compiler? I tried a while ago with gcc

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Possible conclusions: Precompiled headers are a waste of time and space. 22% increase on compile times, ~300% increase on disk space. Could somebody please try the same test with a different compiler? I tried a while ago with gcc 3.4 on linux. Autotools'

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 03:07:48PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Possible conclusions: Precompiled headers are a waste of time and space. 22% increase on compile times, ~300% increase on disk space. Could somebody please try the same test with a

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 12:30:31AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: Little puzzle for you: What belongs together? Configurations: (A) current svn, --enable-pch (B) current svn, --disable-pch Compile times/size of build tree part frontend/qt4: (1) real 7m35s user 6m25s sys 0m23s

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:15:25PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: > > Possible conclusions: Precompiled headers are a waste of time and space. > > 22% increase on compile times, ~300% increase on disk space. > > > > Could somebody please try the same test with a different compiler? > > I tried a while ago

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Possible conclusions: Precompiled headers are a waste of time and space. >> 22% increase on compile times, ~300% increase on disk space. >> >> Could somebody please try the same test with a different compiler? > > I tried a while ago with gcc 3.4 on linux.

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 03:07:48PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Possible conclusions: Precompiled headers are a waste of time and space. > >> 22% increase on compile times, ~300% increase on disk space. > >> > >> Could somebody please try the

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 12:30:31AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > Little puzzle for you: > > What belongs together? > > Configurations: > > (A) current svn, --enable-pch > (B) current svn, --disable-pch > > Compile times/size of build tree part frontend/qt4: > > (1) real 7m35s user

Small puzzle.

2007-09-18 Thread Andre Poenitz
Little puzzle for you: What belongs together? Configurations: (A) current svn, --enable-pch (B) current svn, --disable-pch Compile times/size of build tree part frontend/qt4: (1) real 7m35s user 6m25s sys 0m23s58.5 MB (2) real 6m12s user 5m12s sys 0m19s19.9 MB Solution:

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-18 Thread Bo Peng
Possible conclusions: Precompiled headers are a waste of time and space. 22% increase on compile times, ~300% increase on disk space. Could somebody please try the same test with a different compiler? I tried a while ago with gcc 3.4 on linux. Autotools' pch did not show any advantage in

Small puzzle.

2007-09-18 Thread Andre Poenitz
Little puzzle for you: What belongs together? Configurations: (A) current svn, --enable-pch (B) current svn, --disable-pch Compile times/size of build tree part frontend/qt4: (1) real 7m35s user 6m25s sys 0m23s58.5 MB (2) real 6m12s user 5m12s sys 0m19s19.9 MB Solution:

Re: Small puzzle.

2007-09-18 Thread Bo Peng
> Possible conclusions: Precompiled headers are a waste of time and space. > 22% increase on compile times, ~300% increase on disk space. > > Could somebody please try the same test with a different compiler? I tried a while ago with gcc 3.4 on linux. Autotools' pch did not show any advantage in