TeXMacs math bindings ...

2002-03-23 Thread John Levon
... sort of. I've been talking to a couple of the texmacs people on IRC, and came up with the following stuff for generating texmacs-style bindings. Restrictions : 1. M-t is a necessary prefix (due to lyx restriction :/) 2. you must press space after finishing a sequence (another lyx

TeXMacs math bindings ...

2002-03-23 Thread John Levon
... sort of. I've been talking to a couple of the texmacs people on IRC, and came up with the following stuff for generating texmacs-style bindings. Restrictions : 1. M-t is a necessary prefix (due to lyx restriction :/) 2. you must press space after finishing a sequence (another lyx

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Jules Bean
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 03:05:57PM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: For less scientific kind of writing one can try Garamond, or one of the new beautiful fonts -- Minion. There were two excellent articles a few years ago in _Cahier GUTenberg_ (a journal of a French TeX user's group), by Thierry

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Zvezdan == Zvezdan Petkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Zvezdan That's exactly what I meant. CM family is ugly. Notice what I Zvezdan say above about Euler. Metafont itself is not an issue. It's Zvezdan a design. CM was designed by one of the greatest computer Zvezdan scientist off all time, but

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 09:28:25AM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: I know that. When I say decent PDF I mean the PDF read from the screen. The printed page looks fine if you have a decent 600dpi printer. However, on a less good printer even the printed page won't look fine. The reason is that

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:56:38AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Zvezdan == Zvezdan Petkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Zvezdan That's exactly what I meant. CM family is ugly. Notice what I Zvezdan say above about Euler. Metafont itself is not an issue. It's Zvezdan a design. CM was

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Herbert Voss
Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:56:38AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Zvezdan == Zvezdan Petkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Zvezdan That's exactly what I meant. CM family is ugly. Notice what I Zvezdan say above about Euler. Metafont itself is not an issue.

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Mike Ressler
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Herbert Voss wrote: Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: Zvezdan That's exactly what I meant. CM family is ugly. Notice what I Zvezdan say above about Euler. Metafont itself is not an issue. It's Zvezdan a design. CM was designed by one of the greatest computer Zvezdan

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 07:29:54PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: have a look at http://www.myfonts.com/Person295.html Herbert As far as I understand English, that sentence says that Zapf and other gave recommendations for improvement of Metafont _program_ _not_ CM. Check out the book:

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:42:17AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: As I recall, Zapf was involved in CM to some extent (at least giving advice) This was Euler not CM. And he designed it. Knuth was giving advice on use of Metafont. Check out the book: Hermann Zapf his design philosophy :

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Jules Bean
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 03:05:57PM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > For less scientific kind of writing one can try Garamond, or one of the > new beautiful fonts -- Minion. There were two excellent articles a few > years ago in _Cahier GUTenberg_ (a journal of a French TeX user's > group), by

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Zvezdan" == Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Zvezdan> That's exactly what I meant. CM family is ugly. Notice what I Zvezdan> say above about Euler. Metafont itself is not an issue. It's Zvezdan> a design. CM was designed by one of the greatest computer Zvezdan> scientist off

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 09:28:25AM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: > > > > I know that. When I say decent PDF I mean the PDF read from the screen. > > The printed page looks fine if you have a decent 600dpi printer. > > However, on a less good printer even the printed page won't look fine. > > The

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:56:38AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Zvezdan" == Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Zvezdan> That's exactly what I meant. CM family is ugly. Notice what I > Zvezdan> say above about Euler. Metafont itself is not an issue. It's > Zvezdan> a

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Herbert Voss
Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:56:38AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > "Zvezdan" == Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Zvezdan> That's exactly what I meant. CM family is ugly. Notice what I > > Zvezdan> say above about Euler. Metafont itself

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Mike Ressler
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Herbert Voss wrote: > Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > > > Zvezdan> That's exactly what I meant. CM family is ugly. Notice what I > > > Zvezdan> say above about Euler. Metafont itself is not an issue. It's > > > Zvezdan> a design. CM was designed by one of the greatest computer > >

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 07:29:54PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > > have a look at > > http://www.myfonts.com/Person295.html > > Herbert > As far as I understand English, that sentence says that Zapf and other gave recommendations for improvement of Metafont _program_ _not_ CM. Check out the

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-12 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:42:17AM -0700, Mike Ressler wrote: > As I recall, Zapf was involved in CM to some extent (at least giving > advice) This was Euler not CM. And he designed it. Knuth was giving advice on use of Metafont. Check out the book: Hermann Zapf & his design philosophy :

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-11 Thread Jules Bean
Sorry to butt in, but this is a b\^ete noir(e?) of mine... On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 02:32:39PM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: I do not consider seriously Metafont fonts since they are ugly, starting with Computer Modern. Euler is a notable exception because it was designed by

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-11 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:57:12AM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: I do not consider seriously Metafont fonts since they are ugly, starting with Computer Modern. Euler is a notable exception because it was designed by Herman Zapf, of course. But it's available as Type1 font

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-11 Thread Jules Bean
Sorry to butt in, but this is a b\^ete noir(e?) of mine... On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 02:32:39PM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > I do not consider seriously Metafont fonts since they are ugly, > starting with Computer Modern. Euler is a notable exception because > it was designed

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-11 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:57:12AM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: > > > I do not consider seriously Metafont fonts since they are ugly, > > starting with Computer Modern. Euler is a notable exception because > > it was designed by Herman Zapf, of course. But it's available as > >

TEXmacs

2001-07-10 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi, I am just wondering, if there are any suggestions to Question 5 of http://www.texmacs.org/Web/FAQ.html No, to be serious, is there any chance that the two projects cooperate in some areas (pdf generation using pdflatex,...) ? Thanks, Rainer.

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Rainer Dorsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Hi, | | I am just wondering, if there are any suggestions to Question 5 of | | http://www.texmacs.org/Web/FAQ.html TeXmacs is a more ambitious project. Is very subjective and from my point of view not true. -- Lgb

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-10 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:13:30AM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: I am just wondering, if there are any suggestions to Question 5 of http://www.texmacs.org/Web/FAQ.html No, to be serious, is there any chance that the two projects cooperate in some areas (pdf generation using pdflatex,...) ?

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-10 Thread Andre Poenitz
| http://www.texmacs.org/Web/FAQ.html TeXmacs is a more ambitious project. Is very subjective and from my point of view not true. Maybe it is indeed more ambitious, but LyX has delivered a better product so far... Andre' -- André Pönitz

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-10 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
: * From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 10 14:26:29 2001 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:26:29 -0400 From: Zvezdan Petkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joris van der Hoeven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TeXmacs advantages over LyX list Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain

TEXmacs

2001-07-10 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi, I am just wondering, if there are any suggestions to Question 5 of http://www.texmacs.org/Web/FAQ.html No, to be serious, is there any chance that the two projects cooperate in some areas (pdf generation using pdflatex,...) ? Thanks, Rainer.

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Rainer Dorsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Hi, | | I am just wondering, if there are any suggestions to Question 5 of | | http://www.texmacs.org/Web/FAQ.html "TeXmacs is a more ambitious project." Is very subjective and from my point of view not true. -- Lgb

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-10 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:13:30AM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > I am just wondering, if there are any suggestions to Question 5 of > > http://www.texmacs.org/Web/FAQ.html > > No, to be serious, is there any chance that the two projects cooperate in some > areas (pdf generation using

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-10 Thread Andre Poenitz
> | http://www.texmacs.org/Web/FAQ.html > > "TeXmacs is a more ambitious project." > > Is very subjective and from my point of view not true. Maybe it is indeed more ambitious, but LyX has delivered a better product so far...

Re: TEXmacs

2001-07-10 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
py of that email here: * >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 10 14:26:29 2001 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:26:29 -0400 From: Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Joris van der Hoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: TeXmacs advantages over LyX list Message-ID: <[EMAIL PRO

TeXmacs vs. LyX

2001-03-20 Thread Garst R. Reese
Long long ago ... there was discussion about a scripting language for LyX. TeXmacs and Siag both use or can use guile. I'm thinking along the lines of interactive textbooks or just a way to provide sample solutions to equations in a graphics format. These are just thoughts that I pass on. Garst

TeXmacs vs. LyX

2001-03-20 Thread Garst R. Reese
Long long ago ... there was discussion about a scripting language for LyX. TeXmacs and Siag both use or can use guile. I'm thinking along the lines of interactive textbooks or just a way to provide sample solutions to equations in a graphics format. These are just thoughts that I pass on. Garst

Re: Did anyone try TeXMacs?

2000-03-25 Thread Allan Rae
ed in full glory. You need to select a document style (e.g. document-style-article) That was the first thing I did when I opened a new document. That why I was frustrated. Perhaps there's a bug? TeXmacs seems to do all its own hyphenation and you have to be in a display mode that c

Re: Did anyone try TeXMacs?

2000-03-25 Thread Allan Rae
tead > > although their documentation was displayed in full glory. > > You need to select a document style (e.g. document->style->article) That was the first thing I did when I opened a new document. That why I was frustrated. Perhaps there's a bug? > > TeXmacs seems to do all

Re: Did anyone try TeXMacs?

2000-03-24 Thread Dekel Tsur
ment style (e.g. document-style-article) TeXmacs seems to do all its own hyphenation and you have to be in a display mode that corresponds to the width of the page to be able to print the file. This makes me suspicious of how they are actually using LaTeX TeXmacs doesn't use LaTe

Re: Did anyone try TeXMacs?

2000-03-24 Thread Dekel Tsur
ou need to select a document style (e.g. document->style->article) > TeXmacs seems to do all its own hyphenation and you have to be in a > display mode that corresponds to the width of the page to be able to print > the file. This makes me suspicious of how they are actually usin

Re: Did anyone try TeXMacs?

2000-03-23 Thread Paul Seelig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Marc Lasgouttes) writes: [ TeXmacs ] Did anyone try it out? Is it any good? It's impressive! This seems to be real WYSIWYG with LaTeX which i find rather astounding. The user interface is not very ergonomic (tear-off menus would be handy) and the functionality too

Re: Did anyone try TeXMacs?

2000-03-23 Thread Allan Rae
On 23 Mar 2000, Paul Seelig wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Marc Lasgouttes) writes: [ TeXmacs ] Did anyone try it out? Is it any good? It's impressive! This seems to be real WYSIWYG with LaTeX which i find rather astounding. Very pretty although I found the three possible formats

Re: Did anyone try TeXMacs?

2000-03-23 Thread Paul Seelig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Marc Lasgouttes) writes: [ TeXmacs ] > > Did anyone try it out? Is it any good? > It's impressive! This seems to be real WYSIWYG with LaTeX which i find rather astounding. The user interface is not very ergonomic (tear-off menus would be handy) and the func

Re: Did anyone try TeXMacs?

2000-03-23 Thread Allan Rae
On 23 Mar 2000, Paul Seelig wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Marc Lasgouttes) writes: > > [ TeXmacs ] > > > > Did anyone try it out? Is it any good? > > > It's impressive! This seems to be real WYSIWYG with LaTeX which i > find rather astounding. Very

Did anyone try TeXMacs?

2000-03-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
I just found the following program: http://www.math.u-psud.fr/~anh/TeXmacs/TeXmacs.html It looks like a merge between emacs and TeX %-/ Did anyone try it out? Is it any good? JMarc

Did anyone try TeXMacs?

2000-03-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
I just found the following program: http://www.math.u-psud.fr/~anh/TeXmacs/TeXmacs.html It looks like a merge between emacs and TeX %-/ Did anyone try it out? Is it any good? JMarc