Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-19 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | [BTW, do we have still have Intra-EU regulations on the amount of beer | one is allowed to transport from one country to another?] Yes, but is now somtehing like 150 litres -- Lgb

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:08:45AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Asger Alstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Andre Poenitz wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 05:17:49PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >>>If there is interest and if things evolve positively, I may be able to > >>> p

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-16 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Paris sounds great! Lars> Except for the beer... but I can settle for some wine as well. Sure, beer is not a big selling point. Lars> I think you just got selected by acclamation, Jean-Marc. Hmm, well, let's see what I can do.

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-15 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Asger Alstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Andre Poenitz wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 05:17:49PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >>>If there is interest and if things evolve positively, I may be able to >>> propose Paris >> Both sound nice. [And in case it matters: I am a bit biased towar

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-15 Thread Jose' Matos
On Monday 14 February 2005 16:17, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Interested? Certainly. :-) > JMarc -- José Abílio

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-15 Thread Asger Alstrup
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 05:17:49PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: If there is interest and if things evolve positively, I may be able to propose Paris Both sound nice. [And in case it matters: I am a bit biased towards France outside Paris...] Paris sounds great! Regards,

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-14 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 05:17:49PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Andre> On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:50:40PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes > Andre> wrote: > >> We agreed in Chemnitz to delay the 1.5 branch until 1.4.1 is out. I > >>

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:50:40PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Andre> wrote: >> We agreed in Chemnitz to delay the 1.5 branch until 1.4.1 is out. I >> hope this still holds... Andre> Apropos Chemnitz. Where do we go this year? If

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-12 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 10:18:25PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > What I am most concerned about is: Will there be any fundamental code > > changes right after the release of LyX 1.4? > > I would guess people will have a shot at XML file format which will > probably change (and hopefully simplif

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-12 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 08:01:55PM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote: > What I am most concerned about is: Will there be any fundamental code > changes right after the release of LyX 1.4? I would guess people will have a shot at XML file format which will probably change (and hopefully simplify) most o

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-12 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:50:40PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > We agreed in Chemnitz to delay the 1.5 branch until 1.4.1 is out. I > hope this still holds... Apropos Chemnitz. Where do we go this year? Andre'

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-12 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 01:06:45PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > It might be that I am a bit "out". > > But I see no bug problems in CVS currently. > What must be fixed for 1.4.0? > > (and bugzilla is not up to snuff...) > > I'd like all code-cleanup, feature-fixing etc to stop now and

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-11 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Johnathan Burchill wrote: > Change-tracking itself probably does not need a major rewrite. It's the > cut-and-paste code that needs to be thought-out. Yes, that's what I meant. > I will look into HEAD this weekend, and report back to the list. That'd be great. Thanks, Jürgen

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-11 Thread Johnathan Burchill
Jürgen wrote: >Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> We have to decide what to do about change tracking. > >I think we can ship 1.4 with change tracking. The status is not worse (even a >bit better) than the unofficial 1.3 version that has been distributed >separately, and AFAIK people have used that f

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> OK. We could maybe open a 1.4.0 TODO list on the wiki, but I am not >> sure it is going to get used. >> >> For 1.3.0 we had Michael's bug list which was very useful. Michael> And this Michael is still alive and waits for a sign to

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> What I am most concerned about is: Will there be any Michael> fundamental code changes right after the release of LyX 1.4? Michael> Or in other words: Can we guarantee that the remaining open Michael> bugs can be fixed (easily

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Georg Baum
Am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2005 13:06 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: > > It might be that I am a bit "out". > > But I see no bug problems in CVS currently. > What must be fixed for 1.4.0? I have some changes to tex2lyx that are basically finished but need some testing that I would like to see in

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Michael Schmitt
I think we can ship 1.4 with change tracking. The status is not worse (even a bit better) than the unofficial 1.3 version that has been distributed separately, and AFAIK people have used that for their daily work. I would also like to see change tracking in LyX 1.4. Actually, this feature alone w

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Michael Schmitt
OK. We could maybe open a 1.4.0 TODO list on the wiki, but I am not sure it is going to get used. For 1.3.0 we had Michael's bug list which was very useful. And this Michael is still alive and waits for a sign to start testing now that LyX can be used on the Windows platform... :-) Michael

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 06:12:06PM +0100, Georg Baum wrote: > I think we should resolve these bugs to avoid mistakes like this. Either > as WONTFIX (because they won't be fixed in 1.3, I'd prefer that) or as > FIXED. I don't think we should mark fixed bugs as WONTFIX, that's just too unclear.

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Georg Baum
Am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2005 16:32 schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller: > quite a bunch of them are fixedintrunk. I think we should resolve these bugs to avoid mistakes like this. Either as WONTFIX (because they won't be fixed in 1.3, I'd prefer that) or as FIXED. Georg

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 04:24:07PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > A possibility is to search for bugs reported against 1.4.0cvs. I used to try mark regressions with 'regression'. Whilst I don't have time to re-learn all the internals of LyX, I can certainly try to do some triage... Suffic

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread John Levon
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 03:51:56PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: > We have some 250 open bugs, but no idea if they exist in 1.3.x or in > HEAD. We need to be able to mark the bugs so that we know what to work > on. If there's not marked with 'fixedintrunk', then they're probably still there..

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Bennett Helm
On Feb 10, 2005, at 10:59 AM, Andreas Vox wrote: Bennett Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Is it possible to include all of these in the preference file? -- Simply entering /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/opt/local/teTeX/ bin: /sw/bin doesn't seem to do it. Why? I just tested add

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Andreas Vox
Bennett Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Is it possible to include all of these in the preference file? -- > Simply entering > /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/opt/local/teTeX/bin: > /sw/bin doesn't seem to do it. Why? I just tested adding a non-existing directory to

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Jose' Matos
On Thursday 10 February 2005 15:42, Andreas Vox wrote: > > Note that nothing that needs a format change will be accepted after > > 1.4.0. So be sure that you plan ahead. No file format change is needed. > Just want to polish, not to re-forge :-) It's mainly the bitmap > generation for equations

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andreas Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Me neither perhaps. >> >> We have some 250 open bugs, but no idea if they exist in 1.3.x or in >> HEAD. We need to be able to mark the bugs so that we know what to work >> on. >> > | So maybe we shoul

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Bennett Helm
On Feb 10, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Andreas" == Andreas Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andreas> - set PATH_prefix in lib/configure for Mac (Bennet complained Andreas> about this. As it is now, LyX won't work out of the box on Andreas> Mac) The other solution is to preset thi

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Andreas Vox
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > "Andreas" == Andreas Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Andreas> - set PATH_prefix in lib/configure for Mac (Bennet complained > Andreas> about this. As it is now, LyX won't work out of the box on > Andreas> Mac) > > The other solution

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andreas" == Andreas Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andreas> - set PATH_prefix in lib/configure for Mac (Bennet complained Andreas> about this. As it is now, LyX won't work out of the box on Andreas> Mac) The other solution is to preset this in the preferences file, as is done currently fo

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Andreas Vox wrote: > When I search for open bugs with "crash" in the summary, I get: > 220(relyx), 1119, 1384, 1395, 1466, 1474, 1589, 1595, 1598, 1604, > 1735, 1753, 1750(relyx), 1771, 1785, 1788. quite a bunch of them are fixedintrunk. Jürgen

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Andreas Vox
Lars Gullik BjÃnnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Me neither perhaps. > > We have some 250 open bugs, but no idea if they exist in 1.3.x or in > HEAD. We need to be able to mark the bugs so that we know what to work > on. > So maybe we should use a wiki TODO list once more. My proposal: - bugs

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andreas" == Andreas Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andreas> Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> If they are not marked with taget 1.4.0 then I don't see them. (and >> if they are not marked, they need to be verified to be present on >> 1.4.0) Andreas> ?? So open bugs which

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andreas Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> If they are not marked with taget 1.4.0 then I don't see them. >> (and if they are not marked, they need to be verified to be present on >> 1.4.0) > | ?? | So open bugs which should be fixed for target

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > We have to decide what to do about change tracking. I think we can ship 1.4 with change tracking. The status is not worse (even a bit better) than the unofficial 1.3 version that has been distributed separately, and AFAIK people have used that for their daily work.

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Andreas Vox
Lars Gullik BjÃnnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If they are not marked with taget 1.4.0 then I don't see them. > (and if they are not marked, they need to be verified to be present on > 1.4.0) ?? So open bugs which should be fixed for target 1.3.6 wont get fixed for target 1.4.0? I'm not sure

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Lars> Then we should work on fixing these regressions, but improving | Lars> any other feature that we have. > | Yes. > | Lars> I'll have a look at the double click issue. > | OK.

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Then we should work on fixing these regressions, but improving Lars> any other feature that we have. Yes. Lars> I'll have a look at the double click issue. OK. We could maybe open a 1.4.0 TODO list on the wiki, but I am not s

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Andreas Vox
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One thing I see that may need big changes is that selecting with the > mouse is terribly slow. Can't confirm that for LyX/Aqua. /Andreas

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andreas Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> I'd say the important ones are targeted for MILESTONE 1.4.0 >> (IMO, especially 1598, 1411, 1667, 1764, 1765, 1787 and the crashes with >> inInset [e.g., when the document has a caption outside a flo

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Andreas Vox
Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd say the important ones are targeted for MILESTONE 1.4.0 > (IMO, especially 1598, 1411, 1667, 1764, 1765, 1787 and the crashes with > inInset [e.g., when the document has a caption outside a float], which is not > yet in bugzilla). When I

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Lars> But I see no bug problems in CVS currently. What must be fixed | Lars> for 1.4.0? > | Lars> I'd like all code-cleanup, feature-fixing etc to stop now and go | Lars> into hard

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> But I see no bug problems in CVS currently. What must be fixed Lars> for 1.4.0? Lars> I'd like all code-cleanup, feature-fixing etc to stop now and go Lars> into hard freeze and only fix regressions and crashes. One thing I se

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Andreas Vox
Lars Gullik BjÃnnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It might be that I am a bit "out". > > But I see no bug problems in CVS currently. > What must be fixed for 1.4.0? Currently I have problems with crashes related to fast events and previews/forked processes. For example, when I start LyX, ope

Re: What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > It might be that I am a bit "out". > > But I see no bug problems in CVS currently. > What must be fixed for 1.4.0? > > (and bugzilla is not up to snuff...) I'd say the important ones are targeted for MILESTONE 1.4.0 (IMO, especially 1598, 1411, 1667, 1764, 1765, 1787 a

What are the main problems in CVS now?

2005-02-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
It might be that I am a bit "out". But I see no bug problems in CVS currently. What must be fixed for 1.4.0? (and bugzilla is not up to snuff...) I'd like all code-cleanup, feature-fixing etc to stop now and go into hard freeze and only fix regressions and crashes. -- Lgb