Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Dov Feldstern schrieb:
Regarding the \R vs. \AR --- I believe that is Arabi-specific.
Yes but without arabi you can't typeset Arabic and Farsi.
I think that's not true. There are plans to add ARABI support for Arabic
but AFAIU (Mostafa knows better) the situation is as
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Dov Feldstern schrieb:
I really wish we had people who really use Arabic and latex, who
could tell us which packages are usually used, whether they ever mix
languages, etc.
The problem is that people start using a feature after it has been
implemented and they see that
The problem is computer access. The internet (and computer in general)
penetration in those
countries is *much* lower than Nederland.
But aren't Saudi-Arabia, Kuweit, Katar, and Bahrain very rich Arabic speaking
countries?
Uwe
Regarding the \R vs. \AR --- I believe that is Arabi-specific.
Yes but without arabi you can't typeset Arabic and Farsi.
I think that's not true. There are plans to add ARABI support for Arabic but AFAIU (Mostafa knows
better) the situation is as follows:
Now:
Arabic: uses
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
The problem is computer access. The internet (and computer in
general) penetration in those
countries is *much* lower than Nederland.
But aren't Saudi-Arabia, Kuweit, Katar, and Bahrain very rich Arabic
speaking countries?
Very rich country doesn't mean that all people
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Regarding the \R vs. \AR --- I believe that is Arabi-specific.
Yes but without arabi you can't typeset Arabic and Farsi.
I think that's not true. There are plans to add ARABI support for
Arabic but AFAIU (Mostafa knows better) the situation is as follows:
You are probably right but AFAIK, the distinction between \AR and \FR is only
useful when you
specifically use ARABI.
I am only repeating here...
Me too ;-): Arabi provides the input encoding cp1256 so without arabi, no
Arabic, especially on Windows.
So to come to an end, let's change the
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
You are probably right but AFAIK, the distinction between \AR and \FR
is only useful when you
specifically use ARABI.
I am only repeating here...
Me too ;-): Arabi provides the input encoding cp1256 so without arabi,
no Arabic, especially on Windows.
So to come to
Can ArabTeX run on Windows, or does that not work?
ArabTeX can in general be run on Windows but to be able to typeset Arabic with LyX on Windows, I
also need the arabi-package.
regards Uwe
I was completely busy today. Well, I tried to follow the emails related to this
subject. Abdel mentioned the main points:
For Arabic we have planned to have both ArabTeX and ARABI,
but for Farsi we (at least me as a Farsi User) have decided to use only ARABI.
Currently it is possible to
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Dov Feldstern schrieb:
Regarding the \R vs. \AR --- I believe that is Arabi-specific.
Yes but without arabi you can't typeset Arabic and Farsi.
I think that's not true. There are plans to add ARABI support for Arabic
but AFAIU (Mostafa knows better) the situation is as
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Dov Feldstern schrieb:
> I really wish we had people who really use Arabic and latex, who
could tell us which packages are > usually used, whether they ever mix
languages, etc.
The problem is that people start using a feature after it has been
implemented and they see
> The problem is computer access. The internet (and computer in general)
penetration in those
> countries is *much* lower than Nederland.
But aren't Saudi-Arabia, Kuweit, Katar, and Bahrain very rich Arabic speaking
countries?
Uwe
>>>Regarding the \R vs. \AR --- I believe that is Arabi-specific.
>>
>> Yes but without arabi you can't typeset Arabic and Farsi.
>
> I think that's not true. There are plans to add ARABI support for Arabic but AFAIU (Mostafa knows
> better) the situation is as follows:
>
> Now:
>
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> The problem is computer access. The internet (and computer in
general) penetration in those
> countries is *much* lower than Nederland.
But aren't Saudi-Arabia, Kuweit, Katar, and Bahrain very rich Arabic
speaking countries?
Very rich country doesn't mean that all
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
>>>Regarding the \R vs. \AR --- I believe that is Arabi-specific.
>>
>> Yes but without arabi you can't typeset Arabic and Farsi.
>
> I think that's not true. There are plans to add ARABI support for
Arabic but AFAIU (Mostafa knows > better) the situation is as
> You are probably right but AFAIK, the distinction between \AR and \FR is only
useful when you
> specifically use ARABI.
>
> I am only repeating here...
Me too ;-): Arabi provides the input encoding cp1256 so without arabi, no
Arabic, especially on Windows.
So to come to an end, let's change
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> You are probably right but AFAIK, the distinction between \AR and \FR
is only useful when you
> specifically use ARABI.
>
> I am only repeating here...
Me too ;-): Arabi provides the input encoding cp1256 so without arabi,
no Arabic, especially on Windows.
So to come
> Can ArabTeX run on Windows, or does that not work?
ArabTeX can in general be run on Windows but to be able to typeset Arabic with LyX on Windows, I
also need the arabi-package.
regards Uwe
I was completely busy today. Well, I tried to follow the emails related to this
subject. Abdel mentioned the main points:
For Arabic we have planned to have both ArabTeX and ARABI,
but for Farsi we (at least me as a Farsi User) have decided to use only ARABI.
Currently it is possible to
This bug prevents LyX from beeing used to typeset Arabic and Farsi:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2928
The reason for this is that LyX currently use \R{} instaed of \AR{} for Arabic
and \FR{} for Farsi.
I'm not familiar with the Bidi/language code and assume that there are special
It doesn't seem to be a bug. Because when some words in ARABIC are written
inside a LATIN paragraph the command \R{arabic phrase} is used to indicate
that. The command \R{arabic phrase} is supposed to change the language to
ARABIC too. But when a new paragraph begins such that the previous
Mostafa, you're able to generate Farsi dvi documents, right?
Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
It doesn't seem to be a bug. Because when some words in ARABIC are
written inside a LATIN paragraph the command \R{arabic phrase} is used
to indicate that. The command \R{arabic phrase} is supposed to change
Mostafa Vahedi schrieb:
It doesn't seem to be a bug.
Because when some words in ARABIC are written inside a LATIN paragraph
the command \R{arabic phrase} is used to indicate that. The command
\R{arabic phrase} is supposed to change the language to ARABIC too.
It is a bug because the
Dov Feldstern schrieb:
Mostafa, you're able to generate Farsi dvi documents, right?
The problem occurs when you use another language or latin characters in your document, see the
LyX-testfile I attached to the bug report.
regards Uwe
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Mostafa Vahedi schrieb:
It doesn't seem to be a bug.
Because when some words in ARABIC are written inside a LATIN paragraph
the command \R{arabic phrase} is used to indicate that. The command
\R{arabic phrase} is supposed to change the language to ARABIC too.
It is a
Dov Feldstern schrieb:
Uwe, what are you basing this claim on?
And how do you know that it
doesn't really work?
Test out the small TeX-file in
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2928#c9
When you use Hebrew additionally it works.
I also looked at the source code of babel and the
Okay, I finally got arabic sort of working in latex, but the debian
packages don't seem to be in such great shape yet. First of all, it was
looking for Arabicore.sty, when in fact I have arabicore.sty (a legacy
from non-case-sensitive OSes...?); and I'm getting a conflict between
arabi and
Dov Feldstern schrieb:
Test out the small TeX-file in
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2928#c9
When you use Hebrew additionally it works.
The file as it is doesn't compile. I believe the babel line should read:
\usepackage[english,arabic]{babel}
It doesn't matter where you define the
This bug prevents LyX from beeing used to typeset Arabic and Farsi:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2928
The reason for this is that LyX currently use \R{} instaed of \AR{} for Arabic
and \FR{} for Farsi.
I'm not familiar with the Bidi/language code and assume that there are special
It doesn't seem to be a bug. Because when some words in ARABIC are written
inside a LATIN paragraph the command "\R{arabic phrase}" is used to indicate
that. The command "\R{arabic phrase}" is supposed to change the language to
ARABIC too. But when a new paragraph begins such that the previous
Mostafa, you're able to generate Farsi dvi documents, right?
Mostafa Vahedi wrote:
It doesn't seem to be a bug. Because when some words in ARABIC are
written inside a LATIN paragraph the command "\R{arabic phrase}" is used
to indicate that. The command "\R{arabic phrase}" is supposed to change
Mostafa Vahedi schrieb:
It doesn't seem to be a bug.
> Because when some words in ARABIC are written inside a LATIN paragraph
> the command "\R{arabic phrase}" is used to indicate that. The command
> "\R{arabic phrase}" is supposed to change the language to ARABIC too.
It is a bug because the
Dov Feldstern schrieb:
Mostafa, you're able to generate Farsi dvi documents, right?
The problem occurs when you use another language or latin characters in your document, see the
LyX-testfile I attached to the bug report.
regards Uwe
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Mostafa Vahedi schrieb:
It doesn't seem to be a bug.
> Because when some words in ARABIC are written inside a LATIN paragraph
> the command "\R{arabic phrase}" is used to indicate that. The command
> "\R{arabic phrase}" is supposed to change the language to ARABIC too.
It
Dov Feldstern schrieb:
Uwe, what are you basing this claim on?
> And how do you know that it
> doesn't really work?
Test out the small TeX-file in
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2928#c9
When you use Hebrew additionally it works.
I also looked at the source code of babel and the
Okay, I finally got arabic sort of working in latex, but the debian
packages don't seem to be in such great shape yet. First of all, it was
looking for Arabicore.sty, when in fact I have arabicore.sty (a legacy
from non-case-sensitive OSes...?); and I'm getting a conflict between
arabi and
Dov Feldstern schrieb:
Test out the small TeX-file in
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2928#c9
When you use Hebrew additionally it works.
The file as it is doesn't compile. I believe the babel line should read:
\usepackage[english,arabic]{babel}
It doesn't matter where you define the
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