Re: short report from LyX under Linux

On 2017-07-24, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 24/07/2017 à 14:18, mn a écrit : >> – Simplify UserGuide in regard to dependencies > Indeed. Personally, I never use enumitem :) There is probably a good > reason why it is not in the main texlive distribution. Enumitem is in texlive. It is,

[PATCH][RFC] Make "devel mode" configurable at run time

Hi, Anyone against putting this in master? JMarc >From 5488f8f06eae75bf2265e88a344be246130b9ada Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 00:21:43 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] Make "devel mode" configurable at run time Traditionally LyX behaves

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

On 24/07/2017 16:24, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I am not sure what the difference between recommend and require is in practice. Could you expand on that? Ubuntu way, AFAIK: -) Depends means LyX would be totally broken without them, e.g., you wouldn't be able to launch LyX, thus there's no

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

Le 24/07/2017 à 17:23, Tommaso Cucinotta a écrit : Ubuntu way, AFAIK: -) Depends means LyX would be totally broken without them, e.g., you wouldn't be able to launch LyX, thus there's no way to install LyX without its dependencies, unless you're an advanced user, you know what you're doing,

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

Le 24/07/2017 à 16:16, Guenter Milde a écrit : As under Debian, LyX "recommends" this package (it is installed by default if you install LyX), the UserGuide compiles out of the box with an default install. I am not sure what the difference between recommend and require is in practice. Could

Re: Aw: Re: short report from LyX under Linux

On 2017-07-24, Uwe Stöhr wrote: >> My advice to new Linux folks is always to start with a 'mainstream' >> distribution. I.e., start with Ubuntu. > The distribution is not the question. It is, as with Debian or Ubuntu, you would have had a working LyX out of the box. > The point is that users

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

On 24/07/2017 10:30, "Uwe Stöhr" wrote: I think that explains why software companies don't offer Linux versions. Just a couple of well-known names... https://www.redhat.com/en/store/linux-platforms https://buy.ubuntu.com/?_ga=2.96387035.693003821.1500908991-595300039.1443300335

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Make "devel mode" configurable at run time

Le 24/07/2017 à 16:23, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : Hi, Anyone against putting this in master? JMarc 0001-Make-devel-mode-configurable-at-run-time.patch From 5488f8f06eae75bf2265e88a344be246130b9ada Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Date: Mon, 24

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Make "devel mode" configurable at run time

Le 24/07/2017 à 17:40, Guillaume MM a écrit : The information is saved in the session file. Only the default value depends on the compile-time #define. It makes sense to me to entirely remove the compile-time switch. I could do that indeed. I'll propose another iteration. JMarc

Re: [LyX/master] Do not error on missing ZWNJ (ligature break) characters.

Le 23/07/2017 à 18:42, Juergen Spitzmueller a écrit : commit a40868510d36ccdcf3c431cdee17f8204d4b258a Author: Juergen Spitzmueller Date: Sun Jul 23 18:41:06 2017 +0200 Do not error on missing ZWNJ (ligature break) characters. Since TeXLive 2016, "fontspec" maps the

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Make "devel mode" configurable at run time

Le 24/07/2017 à 18:16, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : I could do that indeed. I'll propose another iteration. Here it is. I also removed all traces of (LYX_)DEVEL_VERSION in cmake. Kornel, does it look OK? Can I apply this? JMarc >From 18da500ecfdd70fea22bc385ab1a68fc57818633 Mon Sep 17

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Make "devel mode" configurable at run time

Am Montag, 24. Juli 2017 um 21:17:10, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes > Le 24/07/2017 à 18:16, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : > > I could do that indeed. I'll propose another iteration. > > Here it is. I also removed all traces of (LYX_)DEVEL_VERSION in cmake. > Kornel, does

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Make "devel mode" configurable at run time

Le 24/07/2017 à 21:17, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : Le 24/07/2017 à 18:16, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : I could do that indeed. I'll propose another iteration. Here it is. I also removed all traces of (LYX_)DEVEL_VERSION in cmake. Kornel, does it look OK? Can I apply this? I put it

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Make "devel mode" configurable at run time

Le 24/07/2017 à 21:38, Kornel Benko a écrit : Looks OK for cmake. I miss the patch of config.h.in (for automake) This one is autogenerated by autoheader (as is written at the top) and not in the git repo. JMarc

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Make "devel mode" configurable at run time

Am Montag, 24. Juli 2017 um 22:00:06, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes > Le 24/07/2017 à 21:38, Kornel Benko a écrit : > > Looks OK for cmake. I miss the patch of config.h.in (for automake) > > This one is autogenerated by autoheader (as is written at the top) and > not in the

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

Am Sonntag, den 23.07.2017, 23:28 +0200 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: > Since more than a decade I help to develop LyX on Windows. After > being > forced to buy a new Laptop with a preinstalled Win 10 I was so > annoyed > by Win 10 that I gave Linux a try. > > I did not know what to take and stumbled

Re: [LyX/master] Make "devel mode" configurable at run time

On 07/24/2017 04:15 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > commit 9fe8190364d27a538efa3928d2166b09e1cef2d5 > Author: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes > Date: Mon Jul 24 00:21:43 2017 +0200 > > Make "devel mode" configurable at run time > > Traditionally LyX behaves differently

Re: Any descriptions of the security aspects (related to needauth and shell-escape)?

On 23/07/2017 16:56, Christian Ridderström wrote: Does anyone feel we should _not_ keep such a security document in the general LyX repository? Note: Generally speaking I'm all for being open and transparent, but such a document might end up containing descriptions of ways in which LyX could

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

El 24.07.2017 a las 17:14, Tommaso Cucinotta escribió: I think that explains why software companies don't offer Linux versions. Just a couple of well-known names... As a new user I tried bit by bit if things that worked under Windows do under Linux as well. I just noted that many non-free

Re: [LyX/master] We have new translation which slipped through the cracks.

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:38:33PM +0200, Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote: > Le 19/07/2017 à 13:51, Pavel Sanda a écrit : > > Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > commit cd7b1dad6713e0dba2b90e7757fce5b0ca8e > > > Author: Pavel Sanda > > > Date: Wed Jul 19 13:36:06 2017 +0200 > > > > > >

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

On 24/07/2017 23:39, Uwe Stöhr wrote: One of my daily work is CAD and common programs like Solidworks are not available under Linux: https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/90517 The only program I found so far is VariCAD: http://www.varicad.com/en/home/products/download/ now I see your point, if

Re: [LyX/master] Preferences shows current zoom instead of preference's default zoom (#10455)

On 25.07.2017 07:49, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 07:41:32PM +1000, racoon wrote: On 22.07.2017 08:38, Scott Kostyshak wrote: No, sorry. Most importantly, I do not understand what the debug messages mean. Unfortunately, I also do not have much time at my hands at the moment

Re: Silent/automatic execution of converter and needauth, concrete questions to clarify my understanding

On 23/07/2017 22:08, Christian Ridderström wrote: Are the settings that needauth remember done: a) per document, regardless of converter b) per document-and-converter pair? c) Also per snippet of code? it's only a), but pls keep in mind this is only for those (few) converters tagged with the

Re: Going into dangerous mode (Was: Can shell-escape take advantage of needauth framework?)

On 22/07/2017 00:47, Guenter Milde wrote: Enrico's patch did not touch "needauth" but has some nice features for "shell-escape": it addressed the "set and forget" issue by a) adding a red icon to the status bar if a document has the "allow shell-escape" flag. b) revoking the permission,

Re: Options for resolving the minted + shell-escape issue

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 12:49:05AM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote: Hi Christian, I did not respond to your other questions since I've been traveling, and others have done so in the mean time. Let me know if some of your questions have gone unanswered. > As an aside, I've used org-mode

Re: [LyX/master] Make "devel mode" configurable at run time

Am Montag, 24. Juli 2017 um 17:22:54, schrieb Richard Heck > On 07/24/2017 04:15 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > commit 9fe8190364d27a538efa3928d2166b09e1cef2d5 > > Author: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes > > Date: Mon Jul 24 00:21:43 2017 +0200 > > > > Make

Re: Types of LyX users (Was: Can shell-escape take advantage of needauth framework?)

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 09:52:37PM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote: > I think Scott is partly verging towards the topic of types of users > and user scenarios. Yes I think so. The problem (as you mentioned) is that we really don't know what the distribution of our users looks like. > Perhaps

Re: Types of LyX users (Was: Can shell-escape take advantage of needauth framework?)

On 25/07/2017 00:15, Scott Kostyshak wrote: Then we could easily say "I think this feature would benefit Lucie, would hurt Raimundo, and would not affect Sara at Alice was beginning to get very tired of sitting by her sister on the bank, and of having nothing to do: once or twice she had

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

El 24.07.2017 a las 12:14, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes escribió: Indeed Adobe Reader for Linux has been abandoned. Personnally I do not regret it and I always install SumatraPDF on windows. I construct parts with 3D CAD. therefore I need a PDF program to view 3D PDFs. Sumatra cannot handle it,

Re: Can shell-escape take advantage of needauth framework?

[slowly catching up...] On 18/07/2017 19:46, Christian Ridderström wrote: I just did a test with gnuplot. In the LyX settings I had unchecked 'Forbid of use of needauth converters' and unchecked 'Use needauth option'. Then I opened a LyX doc with a gnuplot script. Result: LyX tried to run the

Re: Silent/automatic execution of converter and needauth, concrete questions to clarify my understanding

On 18/07/2017 00:49, Guillaume MM wrote: (Another one is if the path is ~/Download/new1.lyx and you happen to have given permanent permissions for a file with the same path three years earlier, deleted and forgotten about since...) there's been discussion during the needauth development about

Re: Silent/automatic execution of converter and needauth, concrete questions to clarify my understanding

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:13:05AM +0200, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: > On 18/07/2017 00:49, Guillaume MM wrote: > > (Another one is if the path is ~/Download/new1.lyx and you happen to > > have given permanent permissions for a file with the same path three > > years earlier, deleted and forgotten

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

El 24.07.2017 a las 14:37, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes escribió: Indeed. Personally, I never use enumitem :) There is probably a good reason why it is not in the main texlive distribution. The UserGuide is not designed to cover special interests but to show what LyX can do. It is up to the users to

Re: [LyX/master] Do not error on missing ZWNJ (ligature break) characters.

On 2017-07-24, Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote: > Le 23/07/2017 à 18:42, Juergen Spitzmueller a écrit : >> commit a40868510d36ccdcf3c431cdee17f8204d4b258a >> Author: Juergen Spitzmueller >> Date: Sun Jul 23 18:41:06 2017 +0200 >> Do not error on missing ZWNJ (ligature break)

Re: Going into dangerous mode (Was: Can shell-escape take advantage of needauth framework?)

On 23/07/2017 20:55, Christian Ridderström wrote: Regarding setting something in the preference file manually: The only thing I mind is that it adds a global state to LyX, as opposed to starting LyX with some parameters. The global state would likely affect e.g. testing. the good thing is that

Re: Different LaTeX output when exporting than when previewing

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:57:41PM +, Guenter Milde wrote: > > Good to know that this specific issue is not important, thanks Günter. > > Yes, I'm still worried about the underlying bug. > > I am not sure this difference is a bug, it may just be some indeterminalism, > maybe caused by

Re: Options for resolving the minted + shell-escape issue

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 03:30:14PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > > I propose to apply this patch and return to productivity. > > I would agree with that. It seems this patch has some support. I will do some testing and give my thoughts soon. I'm still traveling but will be back and start having

Re: Going into dangerous mode (Was: Can shell-escape take advantage of needauth framework?)

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 01:09:09AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 21/07/2017 à 21:02, Scott Kostyshak a écrit : > > > except if I disable needauth globally :( > > > > What about editing the session file to add the paths of the .lyx files > > that you want? If you're interested, I could

Re: [LyX/master] Preferences shows current zoom instead of preference's default zoom (#10455)

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 07:41:32PM +1000, racoon wrote: > On 22.07.2017 08:38, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > No, sorry. Most importantly, I do not understand what the debug messages > mean. Unfortunately, I also do not have much time at my hands at the moment > either. I am happy to help though, if

Re: [LyX/master] Make "devel mode" configurable at run time

Le 24/07/2017 à 23:22, Richard Heck a écrit : So what do we do now to include debug symbols when building? This is completely different. With cmake, something like LYX_RELEASE=OFF With autoconf, with --enable-build-type=devel or prerelase, but this is done automatically from version. What

Re: CMake deprecation warnings

El 24.07.2017 a las 11:46, Kornel Benko escribió: Yes please, ignore. It happens only with CMake 3.9, and I did not dare to butcher the code without enough testing. OK. Thanks you for having a look. regards Uwe

Re: Any descriptions of the security aspects (related to needauth and shell-escape)?

On 21/07/2017 22:28, Scott Kostyshak wrote: I support the suggestion to create such a document and suppose to make it a section in "Development.lyx": + bundled with other project policies and developer documentation + write access for all developers + we can use LyX's version control for

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

On 07/24/2017 05:39 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Next thing was to read at least 3D PDFs generated by CAD programs. Then I found out that only the abandoned Adobe reader can do this. I don't recall if anyone mentioned this (the thread is getting a bit long), but Adobe Reader 9.5.5 is available for

Re: Aw: Re: short report from LyX under Linux

Le 24/07/2017 à 16:21, Guenter Milde a écrit : On 2017-07-24, Uwe Stöhr wrote: My advice to new Linux folks is always to start with a 'mainstream' distribution. I.e., start with Ubuntu. The distribution is not the question. It is, as with Debian or Ubuntu, you would have had a working LyX

Re: Can shell-escape take advantage of needauth framework?

On 19/07/2017 11:06, Pavel Sanda wrote: I disagree though that we should ban needauth mechanism right now and if the argument really is that I can trick someone into unchecking whatever I want, then I can directly trick him into writing rm -rf / on the commandline. +1, albeit quite evidently

Re: Types of LyX users (Was: Can shell-escape take advantage of needauth framework?)

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 01:03:00AM +0200, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: > > ... hope you like it as a start ;-P ... I like it. We need some illustrations. Scott signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [LyX/master] Win installer: prepare for a new 2.3 release (hopefully a beta)

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:31:50AM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > commit 52025d5c9b5857ae9a0df67d78cd75f8e955e288 > Author: Uwe Stöhr > Date: Tue Jul 25 00:31:45 2017 +0200 > > Win installer: prepare for a new 2.3 release (hopefully a beta) > --- >

Re: Can shell-escape take advantage of needauth framework?

On 18/07/2017 21:50, Christian Ridderström wrote: I do not know how many KGB/CIA agents will be willing attend the 'hack LyX' classes. How much is it worth on a spy resume ? haha! something like that must have been said by someone in Redmond while coming out with this new brilliant and

Just a check: Ok with Qt-code in e.g. src/support/?

Hi, This is just a check. A long time ago LyX had two frontends, i.e. not only Qt. Back then I assume the Qt-code was supposed to stay under src/frontends/qt4/. I just noticed some Qt code in e.g. src/support/FileMonitor.h, so I just wanted to check that we now are ok with Qt-code in e.g.

Re: Options for resolving the minted + shell-escape issue

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 05:49:33PM -0400, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 03:30:14PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > > > > I propose to apply this patch and return to productivity. > > > > I would agree with that. > > It seems this patch has some support. I will do some testing

Re: CMake deprecation warnings

Am Sonntag, 23. Juli 2017 um 23:41:58, schrieb Uwe Stöhr > I just updated master and the 2.2.x branch to check if I can compile. > This worked but I get now 4 CMake deprecation warnings: > > CMake Deprecation Warning at CMakeLists.txt:40 (cmake_policy): >The OLD behavior

Re: [LyX/master] Copy documentation of new features of Additional.lyx in de, es, fr and ja documentation files as change tracking and remove chnage tracking in Additional.lyx

On 2017-07-23, Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote: > Le 16/07/2017 à 04:23, Scott Kostyshak a écrit : >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:34:53PM +0200, jpc wrote: >>> commit c9f398d7c516f9e9f3df71e74231a87e639180b9 >>> Author: jpc >>> Date: Wed Jul 12 22:31:30 2017 +0200 >>>Copy

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

Am 24.07.2017 um 10:30 schrieb "Uwe Stöhr": back to the UserGuide, perhaps what we could actually do is, to simplify the UserGuide so that it can compile without the need for installing additional packages besides a minimal latex installation The point is that almost nothing works out of the

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

> back to the UserGuide, perhaps what we could actually do is, to simplify the UserGuide so that it can compile without the need for installing additional packages besides a minimal latex installation The point is that almost nothing works out of the box. Not simple documents, not the

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

Le 24/07/2017 à 10:30, "Uwe Stöhr" a écrit : The point is that almost nothing works out of the box. Not simple documents, not the tutorial. Because only texlive-bin package is installed together with LyX. I will report to the packagers that they should add more texlive packages to the install

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

Le 24/07/2017 à 10:30, "Uwe Stöhr" a écrit : Hmm, that is very bad. I think that explains why software companies don't offer Linux versions. (I saw yesterday that there are no longer Skype, Adobe Reader and other useful programs on Linux.) Indeed Adobe Reader for Linux has been abandoned.

Aw: Re: short report from LyX under Linux

> My advice to new Linux folks is always to start with a 'mainstream' > distribution. I.e., start with Ubuntu. The distribution is not the question. Although I can recommend Manjaro because I got a new OS after just an hour and everything worked out of the box (booting, hardware and software)

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

On 24/07/2017 04:59, Paul A. Rubin wrote: BTW, you can download a bootable version of Mint to a USB memory stick and run it from the stick, to see if everything works (in particular, all peripheral devices). If you like it, you can install from the stick. I'm not sure if the equivalent is

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

On 24/07/2017 08:16, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: One of the first steps was of course to try out LyX. Unfortunately I could not compile the UserGuide because of the missing package enumitem. I wanted to install it but cannot find it. there is also no texlive program to start to install the missing

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

On 24.07.17 10:30, "Uwe Stöhr" wrote: >> back to the UserGuide, perhaps what we could actually do is, to >> simplify the UserGuide so that it can compile without the need for >> installing additional packages besides a minimal latex >> installation > > The point is that almost nothing works out

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

Le 24/07/2017 à 14:18, mn a écrit : – Simplify UserGuide in regard to dependencies Indeed. Personally, I never use enumitem :) There is probably a good reason why it is not in the main texlive distribution. JMarc

Re: [LyX/master] Account for spaces in paths in the windows reverse search proposals

2017-07-24 13:16 GMT+02:00 Enrico Forestieri : > Jürgen, the correct syntax is %~1 rather than ~%1. See: > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28597379/what-does- > 1-do-in-this-batch-file > > Thanks. Could you check and correct, please? I just used what was proposed on trac.

Re: [LyX/master] Account for spaces in paths in the windows reverse search proposals

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 11:14:54AM +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > commit bbb6318730f7383292e33f01baf687756de350b0 > Author: Juergen Spitzmueller > Date: Mon Jul 24 11:14:00 2017 +0200 > > Account for spaces in paths in the windows reverse search proposals > >

Re: [LyX/master] Account for spaces in paths in the windows reverse search proposals

2017-07-24 13:28 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller : > 2017-07-24 13:16 GMT+02:00 Enrico Forestieri : > >> Jürgen, the correct syntax is %~1 rather than ~%1. See: >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28597379/what-does-1-do- >> in-this-batch-file >> >> > Thanks. Could