Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-18 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Samstag, den 17.03.2018, 21:32 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > I agree that the current text is confusing. I wonder if we can > improve > on the confusion by just saying something like > > Unfortunately, official LyX 2.3.0 Windows binaries are not > available > at this time. The most

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-17 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 06:15:20PM +, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 15.03.2018, 15:08 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > > Leaving 2.2.3 as it is? > > > > Yes I think so. > > I suggest to hide the text mentioning the two installer variants (and > pointing to 2.2.3). It

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-17 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Donnerstag, den 15.03.2018, 15:08 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > Leaving 2.2.3 as it is? > > Yes I think so. I suggest to hide the text mentioning the two installer variants (and pointing to 2.2.3). It probably irritates more than it helps, see http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/11079 The

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-16 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 07:53:56AM +, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Scott Kostyshak wrote: > > Yes I think so. After the text "There are 2 Windows installer > > variants:", I think we could add the similar (adding just the version > > info) text as in the announcement: > > > > Unfortunately,

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-16 Thread Pavel Sanda
Scott Kostyshak wrote: > Yes I think so. After the text "There are 2 Windows installer > variants:", I think we could add the similar (adding just the version > info) text as in the announcement: > > Unfortunately, official LyX 2.3.0 Windows binaries are not available > at this time. > >

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-15 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 08:28:44AM +, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Scott Kostyshak wrote: > > > I agree. I will remove the Windows binaries from the FTP, and announce > > > 2.3.0 on Friday. > > > > For the announce email I'm currently planning to put something like the > > following: > > > >

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-15 Thread Pavel Sanda
Scott Kostyshak wrote: > > I agree. I will remove the Windows binaries from the FTP, and announce > > 2.3.0 on Friday. > > For the announce email I'm currently planning to put something like the > following: > > Unfortunately, official Windows binaries are not available at this > time. What

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-15 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am 15.03.2018 4:12 vorm. schrieb "Scott I still have the hope that we can upload the Windows binaries soon. I certainly hope so, too! Jürgen Scott

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 03:12:26AM +, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 06:23:31AM +, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > > I think (and I actually propose herewith) that we should release LyX 2.3.0 > > now, without the Windows installer. > > I agree. I will remove the Windows

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 06:23:31AM +, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > I think (and I actually propose herewith) that we should release LyX 2.3.0 > now, without the Windows installer. I agree. I will remove the Windows binaries from the FTP, and announce 2.3.0 on Friday. I still have the hope

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 14/03/2018 à 12:52, Pavel Sanda a écrit : Abdelrazak Younes wrote: AFAIU, it is too late already. 2 weeks already... Too bad! It's actually exactly two weeks. LyX 2.3.0 already hit testing branch of Debian. Maybe if we filed a request at ubuntu bugzilla we might still have chance,

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > Thanks, I sometime read the devel list just for fun :-) > > That's a bizarre form of masochism :) > Where do you live now, there were some rumors we might try to organize > development meeting

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Pavel Sanda
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > > AFAIU, it is too late already. > > > > 2 weeks already... > > > > Too bad! It's actually exactly two weeks. LyX 2.3.0 already hit testing branch of Debian. Maybe if we filed a request at ubuntu bugzilla we might still have chance, don't know how strict they are

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Pavel Sanda
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Thanks, I sometime read the devel list just for fun :-) That's a bizarre form of masochism :) Where do you live now, there were some rumors we might try to organize development meeting after the years... Pavel

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > Le 14/03/2018 ?? 11:10, Abdelrazak Younes a écrit : > >> By the way, you should definitely release now in order to get into next > >> Ubuntu LTS release... > > > > AFAIU, it is too late already.

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Le 14/03/2018 à 02:43, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : [...] So the average user does not know how LaTeX works, what a package is and how it is installed or uninstalled. Sure he does know if he installed LyX himself. as I pointed out in the other thread. I tried to be an average Window user (a bit

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 14/03/2018 ?? 11:10, Abdelrazak Younes a écrit : >> By the way, you should definitely release now in order to get into next >> Ubuntu LTS release... > > AFAIU, it is too late already. 2 weeks already... Hi Abdel, nice to hear you again!! :) Pavel

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 14/03/2018 à 11:10, Abdelrazak Younes a écrit : By the way, you should definitely release now in order to get into next Ubuntu LTS release... AFAIU, it is too late already. JMarc PS: Hi Abdel!

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
By the way, you should definitely release now in order to get into next Ubuntu LTS release... On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Hi Guys, > > In the old days we had the Friday rule for fight... you should restore the > tradition :-) > > Cheers, > Abdel

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Hi Guys, In the old days we had the Friday rule for fight... you should restore the tradition :-) Cheers, Abdel On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 7:23 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Dear all, > > I have kept calm in this debate until now, but since this is getting more > and more

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-14 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Dear all, I have kept calm in this debate until now, but since this is getting more and more ridiculous, here is my position. I think (and I actually propose herewith) that we should release LyX 2.3.0 now, without the Windows installer. It is unacceptable that one single developer holds up a

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-13 Thread Richard Heck
On 03/13/2018 09:43 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 12.03.2018 um 04:32 schrieb Richard Heck: > >> That is a serious mistake: to focus on "average users". But it has >> clearly become pointless to discuss this any longer. > > Dear Richard, > > I cannot leave this commented because it is too fundamental.

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-13 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 12.03.2018 um 04:32 schrieb Richard Heck: That is a serious mistake: to focus on "average users". But it has clearly become pointless to discuss this any longer. Dear Richard, I cannot leave this commented because it is too fundamental. I tried to calm down, but cannot. What is LyX

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-11 Thread Richard Heck
On 03/12/2018 12:44 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: > On 12/03/2018 4:32 p.m., Richard Heck wrote: >> On 03/11/2018 04:52 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: >>> Am 11.03.2018 um 18:12 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: >>> I think that's what we're doing. The basic disagreement we have is that I think adding a

Re: Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-11 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 12/03/2018 4:32 p.m., Richard Heck wrote: On 03/11/2018 04:52 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 11.03.2018 um 18:12 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: I think that's what we're doing. The basic disagreement we have is that I think adding a dialog will bring more benefit than harm. And I made clear why I am

Windows Installer: Future Issues

2018-03-11 Thread Richard Heck
On 03/11/2018 04:52 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 11.03.2018 um 18:12 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > >> I think that's what we're doing. The basic disagreement we have is that >> I think adding a dialog will bring more benefit than harm. > > And I made clear why I am opposed to this. > In the end it costs