Re: Windows installer: extra discussion on dialog

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 05:38:17PM +, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

> In addition to the actual wording of the dialog, there are a few other
> issues to discuss:

I think another question is:

4. What message should we display if the users chooses "Cancel" ?

I think there was some concern that a confused user would choose cancel
when that is not really what they wanted to choose. I think that we can
come up with a clear enough original message that this will not happen
often. But even if it does happen, we have a second chance to clear up
any confusion.

For example, we could put something like

  You have chosen to cancel the LyX installation. Please note that LyX
  2.3.0 cannot work without upgrading your MiKTeX installation to
  version 2.9. You can restart the LyX installation by just re-running
  the installer.

The above is not technically correct. As has been pointed out, if the
user just wants to use LyX to edit and not to compile, they can still do
that. But I think it's better to avoid that situation for the purpose of
clarity.

Scott


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Windows installer: extra discussion on dialog

[Scott Kostyshak]

Dear all,

I am starting a thread on the lyx-users list for a new round of feedback
on the wording of the dialog. You (developers) are also welcome to
participate in that thread if you have experience helping Windows users
and have a feeling for what might be confusing for the *average* Windows
user of LyX.

I understand Uwe's concern that a dialog has the potential to confuse
users. I hope that if we can come up with a message where there is
agreement that the average user would not be confused, we can move
forward with making an official Windows installer. I plan to keep
working on improving the message if necessary, until there is agreement
that it is clear for the average Windows user of LyX, since I think we
all have the same goal in that providing an official Windows installer
is a high priority.

In addition to the actual wording of the dialog, there are a few other
issues to discuss:

1. At what point during the installation should we show the dialog?

Racoon pointed out [1] that it might be best for the dialog to not come
directly at the beginning, since there is already a dialog with an
option "do not use LaTeX" and that answer is important for (2), below.

2. Under which conditions should we show the dialog?

From what I understand, we should not show the dialog if:

a. The user chooses "do not use LaTeX".
b. There is no MiKTeX installation detected on the user's computer.
c. The user already has a MiKTeX installation that is new enough.
d. The user already has a TeX Live installation.

3. Which option should be the default, i.e. if the user presses "enter",
instead of clicking, is "Continue" selected or is "Cancel" selected?

In these types of dialogs, I believe "Cancel" is most commonly the
default for "enter", but I am fine with making "Continue" the default in
our situation if others are fine with it.

Best,

Scott


[1] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=mid=p8onkk%24rjk%241%40blaine.gmane.org



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