Re: Menu Separator aka lyxarrow
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:17:25PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, John Levon wrote:
Why do we have this ? It seems a bit ad hoc. Is it just for
the convenience of the doc writers or something ?
Put on your asbestos suit! John Weiss is going to hunt you down and smack
you with his small fish :-) (Find a message from him and look at his
signature.)
Oh, come now. I was the one who originally had \typewriter{-} all
over the place, until I was told that it "didn't look good." Hence
the origins of the MenuSeparator and the "\lyxarrow" macro.
File this one under "you can't please all of the people all of the
time.
--
John Weiss
"Not through coercion. Not by force. But by compassion. By
affection. And, a small fish." -His Holiness, the 14th Dalai Lama
Re: Menu Separator aka lyxarrow
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:17:25PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, John Levon wrote:
> > Why do we have this ? It seems a bit ad hoc. Is it just for
> > the convenience of the doc writers or something ?
>
> Put on your asbestos suit! John Weiss is going to hunt you down and smack
> you with his small fish :-) (Find a message from him and look at his
> signature.)
Oh, come now. I was the one who originally had \typewriter{->} all
over the place, until I was told that it "didn't look good." Hence
the origins of the MenuSeparator and the "\lyxarrow" macro.
File this one under "you can't please all of the people all of the
time.
--
John Weiss
"Not through coercion. Not by force. But by compassion. By
affection. And, a small fish." -His Holiness, the 14th Dalai Lama
Re: Menu Separator aka lyxarrow
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:17:25PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:17:25 -0800 (PST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LyX Developer List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Menu Separator aka lyxarrow In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, John Levon wrote: Why do we have this ? It seems a bit ad hoc. Is it just for the convenience of the doc writers or something ? Put on your asbestos suit! John Weiss is going to hunt you down and smack you with his small fish :-) (Find a message from him and look at his signature.) We had a big row about this a couple of years ago when we discussed the proper format for the "arrow" to be used in the documentation for things like File-Open. I don't remember exactly how we settled on that particular rotated triangle, but it was deemed Holy and Pure, and thus became policy. While it is certainly crucial for the LyX documentors (who number approximately 0.1 right now), any software documentation should take advantage of it. Whatever you do to it, it should be representable in both the LyX window and the printed documentation in an obvious, common way (no ERT, etc.) and should be obvious as something which ties menu panels together. This particular triangle is used in a number of desktops to indicate that there is another menu lurking underneath an item. I would argue that it should stay in the special character menu, but if you can come up with a better name, feel free. Mike Agree! I used it in the doc for faxview. ... -- Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Helsinki University of Technology Department of Surveying P.O. Box 1200, FIN-02015 HUT, Finland :wq
Re: Menu Separator aka lyxarrow
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, John Levon wrote: Why do we have this ? It seems a bit ad hoc. Is it just for the convenience of the doc writers or something ? Put on your asbestos suit! /me steps backwards slowly ;) john -- "We might be in for more rain than maybe we're going to get." - Henry Blofeld
Re: Menu Separator aka lyxarrow
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:17:25PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:17:25 -0800 (PST) > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: LyX Developer List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Menu Separator aka lyxarrow > In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, John Levon wrote: > > Why do we have this ? It seems a bit ad hoc. Is it just for > > the convenience of the doc writers or something ? > > Put on your asbestos suit! John Weiss is going to hunt you down and smack > you with his small fish :-) (Find a message from him and look at his > signature.) > > We had a big row about this a couple of years ago when we discussed the > proper format for the "arrow" to be used in the documentation for things > like File->Open. I don't remember exactly how we settled on that > particular rotated triangle, but it was deemed Holy and Pure, and thus > became policy. While it is certainly crucial for the LyX documentors (who > number approximately 0.1 right now), any software documentation should > take advantage of it. > > Whatever you do to it, it should be representable in both the LyX window > and the printed documentation in an obvious, common way (no ERT, etc.) > and should be obvious as something which ties menu panels together. This > particular triangle is used in a number of desktops to indicate that there > is another menu lurking underneath an item. I would argue that it should > stay in the special character menu, but if you can come up with a better > name, feel free. > > Mike Agree! I used it in the doc for faxview. ... -- Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Helsinki University of Technology Department of Surveying P.O. Box 1200, FIN-02015 HUT, Finland :wq
Re: Menu Separator aka lyxarrow
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, John Levon wrote: > > Why do we have this ? It seems a bit ad hoc. Is it just for > > the convenience of the doc writers or something ? > > Put on your asbestos suit! /me steps backwards slowly ;) john -- "We might be in for more rain than maybe we're going to get." - Henry Blofeld
Menu Separator aka lyxarrow
Why do we have this ? It seems a bit ad hoc. Is it just for the convenience of the doc writers or something ? Can I at least remove the menu option ? Michael is right, "Menu Separator" is non-obvious. I don't see why we have \lyxarrow as a special case ... Can someone enlighten me ? thanks john -- "If one tells the truth, one is sure, sooner or later, to be found out." - Oscar Wilde
Re: Menu Separator aka lyxarrow
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, John Levon wrote: Why do we have this ? It seems a bit ad hoc. Is it just for the convenience of the doc writers or something ? Put on your asbestos suit! John Weiss is going to hunt you down and smack you with his small fish :-) (Find a message from him and look at his signature.) We had a big row about this a couple of years ago when we discussed the proper format for the "arrow" to be used in the documentation for things like File-Open. I don't remember exactly how we settled on that particular rotated triangle, but it was deemed Holy and Pure, and thus became policy. While it is certainly crucial for the LyX documentors (who number approximately 0.1 right now), any software documentation should take advantage of it. Whatever you do to it, it should be representable in both the LyX window and the printed documentation in an obvious, common way (no ERT, etc.) and should be obvious as something which ties menu panels together. This particular triangle is used in a number of desktops to indicate that there is another menu lurking underneath an item. I would argue that it should stay in the special character menu, but if you can come up with a better name, feel free. Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
Menu Separator aka lyxarrow
Why do we have this ? It seems a bit ad hoc. Is it just for the convenience of the doc writers or something ? Can I at least remove the menu option ? Michael is right, "Menu Separator" is non-obvious. I don't see why we have \lyxarrow as a special case ... Can someone enlighten me ? thanks john -- "If one tells the truth, one is sure, sooner or later, to be found out." - Oscar Wilde
Re: Menu Separator aka lyxarrow
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, John Levon wrote: > Why do we have this ? It seems a bit ad hoc. Is it just for > the convenience of the doc writers or something ? Put on your asbestos suit! John Weiss is going to hunt you down and smack you with his small fish :-) (Find a message from him and look at his signature.) We had a big row about this a couple of years ago when we discussed the proper format for the "arrow" to be used in the documentation for things like File->Open. I don't remember exactly how we settled on that particular rotated triangle, but it was deemed Holy and Pure, and thus became policy. While it is certainly crucial for the LyX documentors (who number approximately 0.1 right now), any software documentation should take advantage of it. Whatever you do to it, it should be representable in both the LyX window and the printed documentation in an obvious, common way (no ERT, etc.) and should be obvious as something which ties menu panels together. This particular triangle is used in a number of desktops to indicate that there is another menu lurking underneath an item. I would argue that it should stay in the special character menu, but if you can come up with a better name, feel free. Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
