Re: WRB - Installing LyX

Paradoxically, Lamport is currently working at M$... look at: http://research.microsoft.com/users/lamport/ 2008/3/26, Rich Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, William R. Buckley wrote: > > LyX/LaTeX are not WYSIWYM because it makes decisions about where I want > > text and graph

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

Steve Litt wrote: On Wednesday 26 March 2008 05:22, Eric S Fraga wrote: At Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:33:22 -0700 (PDT), Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote: WYSIWYG promise? Andre', I hope not!! That's why there's AbiWord and OO.o. Exact

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

William R. Buckley wrote: On this note, add my pipe. If the speed with which LaTeX could operate were such that output could be produced and displayed within the timeframe of a human keystroke (for fun, lets say you're a really good 150 wpm typist), how would this differ from WYSIWYG? Then i

RE: WRB - Installing LyX

TECTED] > Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: WRB - Installing LyX > > > >> importantly, none of us developers---I'd be shocked if I > don't speak > >> for all of us---want LyX to be WYSIWYG. At least lots of us think > >> that W

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

importantly, none of us developers---I'd be shocked if I don't speak for all of us---want LyX to be WYSIWYG. At least lots of us think that WYSISYM positively INTERFERES with the process of writing. The separation of content from presentation revolutionized the process of writing for me. But

RE: WRB - Installing LyX

> -Original Message- > From: rgheck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 2:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: WRB - Installing LyX > > William R. Buckley wrote: > > On this note, add my p

RE: WRB - Installing LyX

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:04 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: WRB - Installing LyX > > William R. Buckley schrieb: > > > Don

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

William R. Buckley schrieb: Don't know what a *nomenclature* is with regard to publishing. I meant the glossaries. As for the others, like bibliographies and indexes, yes, Ventura Publisher handles these quite well. Interesting. I once tested out Framemaker which seems to be very similar t

RE: WRB - Installing LyX

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, William R. Buckley wrote: Well, it is just a different tool, and learning the details will simply take time. William, That's true. And different does not mean better or worse. I use several text editors: joe (shell scripts, .conf files, default editor in pine and slrn,

RE: WRB - Installing LyX

> -Original Message- > From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 2:38 PM > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: RE: WRB - Installing LyX > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, William R. Buckley wrote: > > > LyX/LaTeX ar

RE: WRB - Installing LyX

> William R. Buckley schrieb: > > > If the speed with which LaTeX could operate were such that output > > could be produced and displayed within the timeframe of a human > > keystroke (for fun, lets say you're a really good 150 wpm > typist), how > > would this differ from WYSIWYG? > > WYSI

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

William R. Buckley wrote: On this note, add my pipe. If the speed with which LaTeX could operate were such that output could be produced and displayed within the timeframe of a human keystroke (for fun, lets say you're a really good 150 wpm typist), how would this differ from WYSIWYG? Becaus

RE: WRB - Installing LyX

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, William R. Buckley wrote: LyX/LaTeX are not WYSIWYM because it makes decisions about where I want text and graphics to be. Well, let me put this claim under suspension, while I test the various alternative *frame* mechanisms that have been suggested by others. You can wr

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

William R. Buckley schrieb: If the speed with which LaTeX could operate were such that output could be produced and displayed within the timeframe of a human keystroke (for fun, lets say you're a really good 150 wpm typist), how would this differ from WYSIWYG? WYSIWYM only works when you trust

RE: WRB - Installing LyX

tting the image to a PDF, or what have you? wrb > -Original Message- > From: Steve Litt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:43 AM > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: WRB - Installing LyX > > On Wednesday 26 March 2008 05:22, Eric

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

At Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:43:20 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wednesday 26 March 2008 05:22, Eric S Fraga wrote: > > Exactly! I sure don't want wysiwyg which, in my view, is for people > > who want a glorified typewriter. I want a typesetter that knows more > > than I do about how to prepare documen

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

At Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:06:26 +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > I think the "we're not WYSIWYG" and "WYSIWYM" slogans are confusing to > > prospective and new LyX users, and really don't make much sense. > > then make some better explanation so that even newbies understand. > WYSIWYM really makes s

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

>> I think the "we're not WYSIWYG" and "WYSIWYM" slogans are confusing to >> prospective and new LyX users, and really don't make much sense. > > then make some better explanation so that even newbies understand. > WYSIWYM really makes sense once you understand. > Agreed. IMO, WYSIWYM embodies

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

> In my opinion, LyX *is* WYSIWYG to a significant degree. LyX content in LyX > looks very much like its PDF output. Typefaces, sizes, weights, slants, > margins all look similar to the eventual output. but these visual elements are there to convey _meanings_ not visual appearance in resulting

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

On Wednesday 26 March 2008 05:22, Eric S Fraga wrote: > At Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:33:22 -0700 (PDT), > > Rich Shepard wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > WYSIWYG promise? > > > > Andre', > > > >I hope not!! That's why there's AbiWord and OO.o. > > Exactly! I sure don't want

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

At Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:33:22 -0700 (PDT), Rich Shepard wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > WYSIWYG promise? > > Andre', > >I hope not!! That's why there's AbiWord and OO.o. Exactly! I sure don't want wysiwyg which, in my view, is for people who want a glorified type

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote: WYSIWYG promise? Andre', I hope not!! That's why there's AbiWord and OO.o. Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. | IntegrityCredibility Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.|Innovation

RE: WRB - Installing LyX

See Manfred Mertens post. wrb > -Original Message- > From: Andre Poenitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:06 PM > To: William R. Buckley > Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Subject: Re: WRB - Installing LyX > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 0

Re: WRB - Installing LyX

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 03:53:55PM -0700, William R. Buckley wrote: > My experience, by using the complete install, about 105MBytes, > is that the process is easy. Of course, I use the Windows version, > so there may be some differences in the install process. My > problems are with the details o

WRB - Installing LyX

My experience, by using the complete install, about 105MBytes, is that the process is easy. Of course, I use the Windows version, so there may be some differences in the install process. My problems are with the details of LyX usage, not getting it to run. Also, I could load the documentation .ly