Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-19 Thread Matej Cepl
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 01:45:58PM +0100, Wayan wrote: thank you. I have already used ERT, but the problem is the citation not appears in the text. I have only use \cite{} and \ocite{}. When I viewed as PostScript, that only show: (?mil99) for \cite{mil99) and () for \ocite{mil99). I am using

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-19 Thread Wayan
Thank you Matej for your attention to this problem, Have a nice day, Wayan On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:32:12 -0500 From: Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib) On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 01

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-19 Thread Matej Cepl
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 01:45:58PM +0100, Wayan wrote: thank you. I have already used ERT, but the problem is the citation not appears in the text. I have only use \cite{} and \ocite{}. When I viewed as PostScript, that only show: (?mil99) for \cite{mil99) and () for \ocite{mil99). I am using

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-19 Thread Wayan
Thank you Matej for your attention to this problem, Have a nice day, Wayan On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:32:12 -0500 From: Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib) On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 01

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-19 Thread Matej Cepl
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 01:45:58PM +0100, Wayan wrote: > thank you. I have already used ERT, but the problem is the > citation not appears in the text. I have only use \cite{} and > \ocite{}. When I viewed as PostScript, that only show: (?mil99) > for \cite{mil99) and () for \ocite{mil99). I am

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-19 Thread Wayan
Thank you Matej for your attention to this problem, Have a nice day, Wayan On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:32:12 -0500 > From: Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-16 Thread Matej Cepl
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 08:46:12AM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: it's a problem to choose a special ams package and a german textclass. I believe that amsrefs should be AMS-independent and that there must be some problem with it. I did proposed to turn to AMS-managed list with further questions.

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-16 Thread Herbert Voss
Matej Cepl wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 08:46:12AM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: it's a problem to choose a special ams package and a german textclass. I believe that amsrefs should be AMS-independent and that there must be some problem with it. I did proposed to turn to AMS-managed list

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-16 Thread Wayan
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: I believe that amsrefs should be AMS-independent and that there must be some problem with it. I did proposed to turn to AMS-managed list with further questions. Sorry, I did not make a reply for your suggestion. I have sent an email to the amsrefs dev.

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-16 Thread Matej Cepl
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 08:46:12AM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: it's a problem to choose a special ams package and a german textclass. I believe that amsrefs should be AMS-independent and that there must be some problem with it. I did proposed to turn to AMS-managed list with further questions.

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-16 Thread Herbert Voss
Matej Cepl wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 08:46:12AM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: it's a problem to choose a special ams package and a german textclass. I believe that amsrefs should be AMS-independent and that there must be some problem with it. I did proposed to turn to AMS-managed list

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-16 Thread Wayan
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: I believe that amsrefs should be AMS-independent and that there must be some problem with it. I did proposed to turn to AMS-managed list with further questions. Sorry, I did not make a reply for your suggestion. I have sent an email to the amsrefs dev.

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-16 Thread Matej Cepl
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 08:46:12AM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: > it's a problem to choose a special ams package and a german > textclass. I believe that amsrefs should be AMS-independent and that there must be some problem with it. I did proposed to turn to AMS-managed list with further

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-16 Thread Herbert Voss
Matej Cepl wrote: > On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 08:46:12AM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: > >>it's a problem to choose a special ams package and a german >>textclass. >> > > I believe that amsrefs should be AMS-independent and that there > must be some problem with it. I did proposed to turn to >

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-16 Thread Wayan
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: > I believe that amsrefs should be AMS-independent and that there must be > some problem with it. I did proposed to turn to AMS-managed list with > further questions. Sorry, I did not make a reply for your suggestion. I have sent an email to the amsrefs

amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Guenter Milde
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:51:44 +0100 (MET) wrote Jean-Pierre.Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You may use the bib record structure to declare more fields than what is actually needed by the bst files (I personnaly used for a while bib records for address database indexing with bibindex), so the

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Wayan
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: I totally agree. My feature request was to enable the InsertCitation dialog to work with a amsref *.ltb database as well as with a *.bib, showing the available keys and their content. Also, amsref has a more helpfull error-reporting, so that the

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Guenter Milde
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:38:41 +0100 (MET) wrote Wayan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How can we make a different between \cite{} and \ocite{} in the pop-up menu Citation. I haven't seen it, or should we use manually with ERT command? Just now (1.1.6fix3), the popup only supports \cite, all other

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Wayan
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: Just now (1.1.6fix3), the popup only supports \cite, all other citations need ERT. (if you only need one different command, you can redefine \cite in the preamble) thank you. I have already used ERT, but the problem is the citation not appears in

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Matej Cepl
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 01:45:58PM +0100, Wayan wrote: thank you. I have already used ERT, but the problem is the citation not appears in the text. I have only use \cite{} and \ocite{}. When I viewed as PostScript, that only show: (?mil99) for \cite{mil99) and () for \ocite{mil99). I am using

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Wayan
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: Could you send short example file, please? Thank you for rapid respons. I attaced an zip file which consist of example.lyx, example.pdf and myref.bib. TIA, Wayan example.zip Description: example

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Matej Cepl
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 03:25:11AM +0100, Wayan wrote: Could you send short example file, please? Thank you for rapid respons. I attaced an zip file which consist of example.lyx, example.pdf and myref.bib. I am clueless. I have my paper tonight, so I cannot spent much time with that, but

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Herbert Voss
Wayan wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: Could you send short example file, please? Thank you for rapid respons. I attaced an zip file which consist of example.lyx, example.pdf and myref.bib. don't use package hyperref. Delete it from preamble and try again. At least load

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Wayan
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: don't use package hyperref. Delete it from preamble and try again. At least load hyperref at very last package. Thank you for your respons. Now the \cite{} command is right, but the \ocite{} command is still false. The \ocite{} command do not make a

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Herbert Voss
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Wayan wrote: don't use package hyperref. Delete it from preamble and try again. At least load hyperref at very last package. Thank you for your respons. Now the \cite{} command is right, but the \ocite{} command is still false. The \ocite{} command do not make a

amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Guenter Milde
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:51:44 +0100 (MET) wrote Jean-Pierre.Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You may use the bib record structure to declare more fields than what is actually needed by the bst files (I personnaly used for a while bib records for address database indexing with bibindex), so the

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Wayan
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: I totally agree. My feature request was to enable the InsertCitation dialog to work with a amsref *.ltb database as well as with a *.bib, showing the available keys and their content. Also, amsref has a more helpfull error-reporting, so that the

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Guenter Milde
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:38:41 +0100 (MET) wrote Wayan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How can we make a different between \cite{} and \ocite{} in the pop-up menu Citation. I haven't seen it, or should we use manually with ERT command? Just now (1.1.6fix3), the popup only supports \cite, all other

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Wayan
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: Just now (1.1.6fix3), the popup only supports \cite, all other citations need ERT. (if you only need one different command, you can redefine \cite in the preamble) thank you. I have already used ERT, but the problem is the citation not appears in

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Matej Cepl
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 01:45:58PM +0100, Wayan wrote: thank you. I have already used ERT, but the problem is the citation not appears in the text. I have only use \cite{} and \ocite{}. When I viewed as PostScript, that only show: (?mil99) for \cite{mil99) and () for \ocite{mil99). I am using

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Wayan
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: Could you send short example file, please? Thank you for rapid respons. I attaced an zip file which consist of example.lyx, example.pdf and myref.bib. TIA, Wayan example.zip Description: example

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Matej Cepl
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 03:25:11AM +0100, Wayan wrote: Could you send short example file, please? Thank you for rapid respons. I attaced an zip file which consist of example.lyx, example.pdf and myref.bib. I am clueless. I have my paper tonight, so I cannot spent much time with that, but

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Herbert Voss
Wayan wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: Could you send short example file, please? Thank you for rapid respons. I attaced an zip file which consist of example.lyx, example.pdf and myref.bib. don't use package hyperref. Delete it from preamble and try again. At least load

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Wayan
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: don't use package hyperref. Delete it from preamble and try again. At least load hyperref at very last package. Thank you for your respons. Now the \cite{} command is right, but the \ocite{} command is still false. The \ocite{} command do not make a

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Herbert Voss
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Wayan wrote: don't use package hyperref. Delete it from preamble and try again. At least load hyperref at very last package. Thank you for your respons. Now the \cite{} command is right, but the \ocite{} command is still false. The \ocite{} command do not make a

amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Guenter Milde
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:51:44 +0100 (MET) wrote "Jean-Pierre.Chretien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You may use the bib record structure to declare more fields than > what is actually needed by the bst files (I personnaly used for a while > bib records for address database indexing with bibindex),

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Wayan
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: > I totally agree. My feature request was to enable the >Insert>Citation > dialog to work with a amsref *.ltb database as well as with a *.bib, showing > the available keys and their content. > > Also, amsref has a more helpfull error-reporting, so that

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Guenter Milde
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:38:41 +0100 (MET) wrote Wayan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How can we make a different between \cite{} and \ocite{} in the pop-up > menu Citation. I haven't seen it, or should we use manually with ERT > command? Just now (1.1.6fix3), the popup only supports \cite, all other

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Wayan
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Guenter Milde wrote: > Just now (1.1.6fix3), the popup only supports \cite, all other citations > need ERT. (if you only need one different command, you can redefine > \cite in the preamble) thank you. I have already used ERT, but the problem is the citation not appears in

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Matej Cepl
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 01:45:58PM +0100, Wayan wrote: > thank you. I have already used ERT, but the problem is the citation not > appears in the text. I have only use \cite{} and \ocite{}. When I viewed > as PostScript, that only show: (?mil99) for \cite{mil99) and () for > \ocite{mil99). I am

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Wayan
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: > Could you send short example file, please? Thank you for rapid respons. I attaced an zip file which consist of example.lyx, example.pdf and myref.bib. TIA, Wayan example.zip Description: example

Re: Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Matej Cepl
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 03:25:11AM +0100, Wayan wrote: > > Could you send short example file, please? > > Thank you for rapid respons. I attaced an zip file > which consist of example.lyx, example.pdf and > myref.bib. I am clueless. I have my paper tonight, so I cannot spent much time with

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Herbert Voss
Wayan wrote: > On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: > > >>Could you send short example file, please? >> > > Thank you for rapid respons. I attaced an zip file > which consist of example.lyx, example.pdf and > myref.bib. don't use package hyperref. Delete it from preamble and try again. At

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Wayan
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: > don't use package hyperref. Delete it from > preamble and try again. At least load hyperref at > very last package. Thank you for your respons. Now the \cite{} command is right, but the \ocite{} command is still false. The \ocite{} command do not make

Re: amsref (was: customizing natbib)

2002-02-15 Thread Herbert Voss
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Wayan wrote: > > don't use package hyperref. Delete it from > > preamble and try again. At least load hyperref at > > very last package. > > Thank you for your respons. Now the \cite{} command is right, > but the \ocite{} command is still false. The \ocite{} command > do not

Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:08:11 +0100 (CET) From: Guenter Milde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: customizing natbib To: Jean-Pierre.Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:08:07 +0100 (MET) wrote Jean-Pierre.Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just checked out this website. It seems

Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Guenter Milde
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:25:42 +0100 (MET) wrote Jean-Pierre.Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So the question is only about the choice of the standard: - using latex in an abstract field (which does not exists in the original bib data structure (which knows only about note field AFAIR) or in

Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:30:39 +0100 (CET) From: Guenter Milde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:25:42 +0100 (MET) wrote Jean-Pierre.Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So the question is only about the choice of the standard

Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Matej Cepl
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 11:51:44AM, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: The main point is to avoid a dialect of bib records in amsref, that is to keep with the existing fields for the same information. Well, now we are again in the shooting in the foot question. I think, that it should be allowed

Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:47:44 -0500 From: Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 11:51:44AM, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: The main point is to avoid a dialect of bib records in amsref, that is to keep

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Roberto Hernandez
Guenter Milde wrote: Here is the point where we need a decision: + From my browsing of the amsref-doc I learned that it is even more complete (offers more fields and types (e.g. lectures, artwork, web-documents) than bibtex. Also, LaTeX markup in amsref would not be a mix of

Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Matej Cepl
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:25:42AM, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: In fact, I wanted to stress the fact that database typing inside documents (which is a current practice) should be avoided because a bibliography tag is by definition an piece of data which should be written once correctly

Using amsrefs package -- Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Wayan
Dear all, I have searched with this key (customizing natbib) on the mailing-list archive, Dekel have suggested to use amsrefs for easy customizeable bibliography. Could you please help me how can I do it with LyX. I would like to write biblio- graphy like following, nama, year. title. journal

Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:08:11 +0100 (CET) From: Guenter Milde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: customizing natbib To: Jean-Pierre.Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:08:07 +0100 (MET) wrote Jean-Pierre.Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just checked out this website. It seems

Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Guenter Milde
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:25:42 +0100 (MET) wrote Jean-Pierre.Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So the question is only about the choice of the standard: - using latex in an abstract field (which does not exists in the original bib data structure (which knows only about note field AFAIR) or in

Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:30:39 +0100 (CET) From: Guenter Milde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:25:42 +0100 (MET) wrote Jean-Pierre.Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So the question is only about the choice of the standard

Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Matej Cepl
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 11:51:44AM, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: The main point is to avoid a dialect of bib records in amsref, that is to keep with the existing fields for the same information. Well, now we are again in the shooting in the foot question. I think, that it should be allowed

Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:47:44 -0500 From: Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 11:51:44AM, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: The main point is to avoid a dialect of bib records in amsref, that is to keep

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Roberto Hernandez
Guenter Milde wrote: Here is the point where we need a decision: + From my browsing of the amsref-doc I learned that it is even more complete (offers more fields and types (e.g. lectures, artwork, web-documents) than bibtex. Also, LaTeX markup in amsref would not be a mix of

Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Matej Cepl
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:25:42AM, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: In fact, I wanted to stress the fact that database typing inside documents (which is a current practice) should be avoided because a bibliography tag is by definition an piece of data which should be written once correctly

Using amsrefs package -- Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Wayan
Dear all, I have searched with this key (customizing natbib) on the mailing-list archive, Dekel have suggested to use amsrefs for easy customizeable bibliography. Could you please help me how can I do it with LyX. I would like to write biblio- graphy like following, nama, year. title. journal

Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
>>Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:08:11 +0100 (CET) >>From: Guenter Milde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: Re: customizing natbib >>To: "Jean-Pierre.Chretien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:08:07 +0100 (MET) wrote &quo

Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Guenter Milde
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:25:42 +0100 (MET) wrote "Jean-Pierre.Chretien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > So the question is only about the choice of the standard: > - using latex in an abstract field (which does not exists in the original > bib data structure (which knows only about note field AFAIR) or

Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
>>Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:30:39 +0100 (CET) >>From: Guenter Milde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:25:42 +0100 (MET) wrote "Jean-Pierre.Chretien" <[

Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Matej Cepl
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 11:51:44AM, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: > The main point is to avoid a dialect of bib records in amsref, > that is to keep with the existing fields for the same > information. Well, now we are again in the shooting in the foot question. I think, that it should be allowed

Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
>>Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:47:44 -0500 >>From: Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: Re: Re: customizing natbib >> >>On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 11:51:44AM, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: >>> The main p

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Roberto Hernandez
Guenter Milde wrote: > Here is the point where we need a decision: > > + From my browsing of the amsref-doc I learned that it is even more > complete (offers more fields and types (e.g. lectures, artwork, > web-documents) than bibtex. Also, LaTeX markup in amsref would not be a >

Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Matej Cepl
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:25:42AM, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: > In fact, I wanted to stress the fact that database typing > inside documents (which is a current practice) should be > avoided because a bibliography tag is by definition an piece of > data which should be written once correctly

Using amsrefs package --> Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-14 Thread Wayan
Dear all, I have searched with this key (customizing natbib) on the mailing-list archive, Dekel have suggested to use amsrefs for easy customizeable bibliography. Could you please help me how can I do it with LyX. I would like to write biblio- graphy like following, nama, year. title. journal

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-13 Thread Matej Cepl
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 03:48:54PM -0500, Paul Tremblay wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:38:09PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote: another one is to throw bibtex out of the window and use amsrefs (on www.ams.org). It does not do any such ugly things. I just checked out this website. It seems like

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-13 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:22:43 -0500 From: Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: customizing natbib On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 03:48:54PM -0500, Paul Tremblay wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:38:09PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote: another one is to throw bibtex out

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-13 Thread Matej Cepl
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 03:48:54PM -0500, Paul Tremblay wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:38:09PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote: another one is to throw bibtex out of the window and use amsrefs (on www.ams.org). It does not do any such ugly things. I just checked out this website. It seems like

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-13 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:22:43 -0500 From: Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: customizing natbib On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 03:48:54PM -0500, Paul Tremblay wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:38:09PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote: another one is to throw bibtex out

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-13 Thread Matej Cepl
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 03:48:54PM -0500, Paul Tremblay wrote: > On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:38:09PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote: > > another one is to throw bibtex out of the window and use amsrefs > > (on www.ams.org). It does not do any such ugly things. > > I just checked out this website. It

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-13 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
>>Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:22:43 -0500 >>From: Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: customizing natbib >> >>On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 03:48:54PM -0500, Paul Tremblay wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-12 Thread Paul Tremblay
On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:38:09PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote: another one is to throw bibtex out of the window and use amsrefs (on www.ams.org). It does not do any such ugly things. I just checked out this website. It seems like the amsrefs package is meant for publishing mathmatical

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-12 Thread Paul Tremblay
On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:38:09PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote: another one is to throw bibtex out of the window and use amsrefs (on www.ams.org). It does not do any such ugly things. I just checked out this website. It seems like the amsrefs package is meant for publishing mathmatical

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-12 Thread Paul Tremblay
On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:38:09PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote: > > another one is to throw bibtex out of the window and use amsrefs > (on www.ams.org). It does not do any such ugly things. > I just checked out this website. It seems like the amsrefs package is meant for publishing mathmatical

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-11 Thread Rod Pinna
in the bibtex file *.bib ... title = {{E}ltern und {K}inder} ... Bibtex will leave all capitalizations in {} unchanged. Er, I may be missing something here, but if you create a .bst file using makebst, part of the custbib package, you are given the option of using either a

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-11 Thread Matej Cepl
On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:03:23AM +0100, Guenter Milde wrote: This is the way most bibtex styles work (and I learned, it is the normal way it is done in English). As this is a problem with German titles (where you need to keep the Capitalization of Nouns) all German bibtexers know the

Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-11 Thread Guenter Milde
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:38:09 -0500 wrote Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: another one is to throw bibtex out of the window and use amsrefs (on www.ams.org). It does not do any such ugly things. I had a (admittedly very quick) view at the amsrefs homepage --- looks very promising. I also read

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-11 Thread Rod Pinna
in the bibtex file *.bib ... title = {{E}ltern und {K}inder} ... Bibtex will leave all capitalizations in {} unchanged. Er, I may be missing something here, but if you create a .bst file using makebst, part of the custbib package, you are given the option of using either a

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-11 Thread Matej Cepl
On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:03:23AM +0100, Guenter Milde wrote: This is the way most bibtex styles work (and I learned, it is the normal way it is done in English). As this is a problem with German titles (where you need to keep the Capitalization of Nouns) all German bibtexers know the

Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-11 Thread Guenter Milde
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:38:09 -0500 wrote Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: another one is to throw bibtex out of the window and use amsrefs (on www.ams.org). It does not do any such ugly things. I had a (admittedly very quick) view at the amsrefs homepage --- looks very promising. I also read

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-11 Thread Rod Pinna
> in the bibtex file *.bib > ... >title = {{E}ltern und {K}inder} > ... > > Bibtex will leave all capitalizations in {} unchanged. Er, I may be missing something here, but if you create a .bst file using makebst, part of the custbib package, you are given the option of using either

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-11 Thread Matej Cepl
On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:03:23AM +0100, Guenter Milde wrote: > This is the way most bibtex styles work (and I learned, it is > the "normal" way it is done in English). As this is a problem > with German titles (where you need to keep the Capitalization > of Nouns) all German bibtexers know the

Re: Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-11 Thread Guenter Milde
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:38:09 -0500 wrote Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > another one is to throw bibtex out of the window and use amsrefs > (on www.ams.org). It does not do any such ugly things. I had a (admittedly very quick) view at the amsrefs homepage --- looks very promising. I also read

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-10 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 08:12:03PM -0500, Paul Tremblay wrote: Thanks for this response. These different forms of /cite will change the way the *citations* appear. But they won't change the form the actual bibliograpy , will they? To change the bibliography style, you either need to edit

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-10 Thread Guenter Milde
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:32:57 -0500 wrote Paul Tremblay [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I use the natbib package, the entries in my bibliograpy are not in the form I need. Natbib only capitlizes the first word of the titles of articles, This is the way most bibtex styles work (and I learned, it is

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-10 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 08:12:03PM -0500, Paul Tremblay wrote: Thanks for this response. These different forms of /cite will change the way the *citations* appear. But they won't change the form the actual bibliograpy , will they? To change the bibliography style, you either need to edit

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-10 Thread Guenter Milde
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:32:57 -0500 wrote Paul Tremblay [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I use the natbib package, the entries in my bibliograpy are not in the form I need. Natbib only capitlizes the first word of the titles of articles, This is the way most bibtex styles work (and I learned, it is

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-10 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 08:12:03PM -0500, Paul Tremblay wrote: > Thanks for this response. > > These different forms of /cite will change the way the > *citations* appear. But they won't change the form the actual > bibliograpy , will they? To change the bibliography style, you either need to

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-10 Thread Guenter Milde
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:32:57 -0500 wrote Paul Tremblay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > When I use the natbib package, the entries in my bibliograpy are > not in the form I need. > > Natbib only capitlizes the first word of the titles of articles, This is the way most bibtex styles work (and I learned,

customizing natbib

2002-02-09 Thread Paul Tremblay
When I use the natbib package, the entries in my bibliograpy are not in the form I need. Natbib only capitlizes the first word of the titles of articles, and it does not put quotation marks around them. Also, it does not put parenthesis around the dates. Is there a way to customize the way

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-09 Thread Herbert Voss
Paul Tremblay wrote: When I use the natbib package, the entries in my bibliograpy are not in the form I need. Natbib only capitlizes the first word of the titles of articles, and it does not put quotation marks around them. Also, it does not put parenthesis around the dates. Is

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-09 Thread Paul Tremblay
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 08:37:06PM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: this is what natbib supports. what style do you like: Herbert %Author-year mode || Numerical mode % Then, \citet{key} == Jones et al. (1990)|| Jones et al. [21] %

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-09 Thread Herbert Voss
Paul Tremblay wrote: These different forms of /cite will change the way the *citations* appear. But they won't change the form the actual bibliograpy , will they? give an example how you like a bibliography entry. But remember that there are tons of different bst-files and one of them may

customizing natbib

2002-02-09 Thread Paul Tremblay
When I use the natbib package, the entries in my bibliograpy are not in the form I need. Natbib only capitlizes the first word of the titles of articles, and it does not put quotation marks around them. Also, it does not put parenthesis around the dates. Is there a way to customize the way

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-09 Thread Herbert Voss
Paul Tremblay wrote: When I use the natbib package, the entries in my bibliograpy are not in the form I need. Natbib only capitlizes the first word of the titles of articles, and it does not put quotation marks around them. Also, it does not put parenthesis around the dates. Is

Re: customizing natbib

2002-02-09 Thread Paul Tremblay
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 08:37:06PM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: this is what natbib supports. what style do you like: Herbert %Author-year mode || Numerical mode % Then, \citet{key} == Jones et al. (1990)|| Jones et al. [21] %

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