Re: Citation and reference style
Am Sunday, 25. August 2013, 23:19:32 schrieb Csikos Bela: Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta: One more question: I found Elsarticle-harv the style which comes quite close to what the editor/Springer wants, except it gives me for citations (Author, 2004) instead of (Author 2004) in the \citep case. There is no offer for (Author 2004) (i.e. no comma) in the citation style selection. For \citealt there is a selection for Author 2004 (no comma). How could I get this right? Simply, instead of looking only at what the citation style selection offers, looking at the pdf output. It is what you describe. No comma between author and year. The Elsarticle-harv style works with the natbib package. Whatever you set in natbib will be valid. The citation style is determined by natbib package, not by the style (bst) file. The bst file determines the bibliography style. By the way the Elsarticle-harv bibliography style is not what you described in your opening post. The year is not in parenthesis. I attach the lyx file and the pdf output made by using Elsarticle-harv.bst. bcsikos Thanks, Csikos my %setcitestyle{round,aysep={}} \setcitestyle{comma,aysep={}} -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325
Re: Citation and reference style
Am Sunday, 25. August 2013, 23:19:32 schrieb Csikos Bela: Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta: One more question: I found Elsarticle-harv the style which comes quite close to what the editor/Springer wants, except it gives me for citations (Author, 2004) instead of (Author 2004) in the \citep case. There is no offer for (Author 2004) (i.e. no comma) in the citation style selection. For \citealt there is a selection for Author 2004 (no comma). How could I get this right? Simply, instead of looking only at what the citation style selection offers, looking at the pdf output. It is what you describe. No comma between author and year. The Elsarticle-harv style works with the natbib package. Whatever you set in natbib will be valid. The citation style is determined by natbib package, not by the style (bst) file. The bst file determines the bibliography style. By the way the Elsarticle-harv bibliography style is not what you described in your opening post. The year is not in parenthesis. I attach the lyx file and the pdf output made by using Elsarticle-harv.bst. bcsikos Thanks, Csikos instead of \setcitestyle{comma,aysep={}} I had used \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}} changing it to comma gives me what I need. I have to get familiar with the natbib package and its explanations. For the time being I am glad the chapter is now ready to be sent away. I appreciated your help a lot. Sorry for a mail sent a few minutes ago incidently and incomplete. Wolfgang
Re: list of figures and table overlapping with title
Am Saturday, 24. August 2013, 21:39:40 schrieb luke jones: Hi guys I'm using Lyx for my PhD thesis. Unfortunately I do not know how to use Latex, but I have been very happy with Lyx. When I generate the PDF output, in the list of figures and tables when I get to 5.5.10 5.5.11 then the 0 overlaps with the first letter of the title of the table or figure. had the same problem once. See http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/78633 for the solution, which says add in the preamble some of this: %more space between figurenumber and text in toc \usepackage{tocloft} %\addtolength{\cftlotnumwidth}{1em} %%\addtolength{\cftlotnumwidth}{2em} %\addtolength{\cftlofnumwidth}{1em} %%\addtolength{\cftlofnumwidth}{2em} %\addtolength{\cftsubsecnumwidth}{0.3em} \addtolength{\cftsubsecnumwidth}{0.5em} %\addtolength{\cftsecnumwidth}{0.3em} \addtolength{\cftsecnumwidth}{0.5em} %\addtolength{\cftchapnumwidth}{1em} \addtolength{\cftchapnumwidth}{2em} \addtolength{\cftfignumwidth}{1em} you might need to increase the numbers I have been reading online about changing Latex codes but I don't know how to do this. Is there an easy way to get round this problem? If not, could you advise me how to change the code for dummys! Thanks in advance LJ -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325
Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)
Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu Scott, I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15 and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version? Wolfgang
Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu Scott, I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15 and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version? Hi Wolfgang, I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The easiest way to do this is: git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command. In general, ./something means run the program 'something' which is located in my current directory. Thus you have to have a file named 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable. All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily see breaking. Best, Scott
Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)
Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 10:37:23 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu Scott, I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15 and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version? Hi Wolfgang, I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The easiest way to do this is: git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command. In general, ./something means run the program 'something' which is located in my current directory. Thus you have to have a file named 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable. All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily see breaking. Best, Scott Thanks, Scott. You mentioned in your announcement: It provides the following features: - installs TeX Live 2013 - notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get install lyx) - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals that are not included in TeX Live 2013 - links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they will be available It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's templates and examples. It can be downloaded from here: https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu Question: if I have installed texlive2013 from the DVD can I - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals that are not included in TeX Live 2013 by another way and from where? Wolfgang
Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 10:37:23 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu Scott, I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15 and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version? Hi Wolfgang, I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The easiest way to do this is: git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command. In general, ./something means run the program 'something' which is located in my current directory. Thus you have to have a file named 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable. All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily see breaking. Best, Scott Thanks, Scott. You mentioned in your announcement: It provides the following features: - installs TeX Live 2013 - notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get install lyx) - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals that are not included in TeX Live 2013 - links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they will be available It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's templates and examples. It can be downloaded from here: https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu Question: if I have installed texlive2013 from the DVD can I - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals that are not included in TeX Live 2013 Good question. No, you currently cannot do that. I would like to implement that eventually. For now, you will have to install them individually (that is, do not use the script). Most of LyX templates and examples give instructions on which files to download. Install them as you did in your other email, and that should work. Best, Scott
Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
John Kane wrote: I was poking around the Zotero site trying to see if there was a way to get a specific APA citation format [Author (date)] which is easy enough in LyX or LaTeX to work in a word processor such as AOO Writer or MS Word[1]. Well actually I was finding that Zotero inserts the citation in (Author, Date) format without allowing modifications as one can when inserting from a bibtex file and hoped to find a way to avoid having to go back and edit later if it could be done in a word processor. [...] 1. The answer was no, Zotero does not do this but there is a reasonable work around: Just type the Author part and insert the reference with author suppressed. You can easily edit Zotero's style file to make it insert the required parentheses. To edit Zotero's style file: - use a text editor which can handle UTF-8 files - do not overwrite the original style file but save the changed file with a different name and also change the style name in the header part. You can contact me for further questions by PM. -- Wilfried Hennings whiskey hotel underscore november golf at golf mike xray dot delta echo
Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
From: Wilfried wh...@gmx.de To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:43:33 AM Subject: Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic) John Kane wrote: I was poking around the Zotero site trying to see if there was a way to get a specific APA citation format [Author (date)] which is easy enough in LyX or LaTeX to work in a word processor such as AOO Writer or MS Word[1]. Well actually I was finding that Zotero inserts the citation in (Author, Date) format without allowing modifications as one can when inserting from a bibtex file and hoped to find a way to avoid having to go back and edit later if it could be done in a word processor. [...] 1. The answer was no, Zotero does not do this but there is a reasonable work around: Just type the Author part and insert the reference with author suppressed. You can easily edit Zotero's style file to make it insert the required parentheses. To edit Zotero's style file: - use a text editor which can handle UTF-8 files - do not overwrite the original style file but save the changed file with a different name and also change the style name in the header part. You can contact me for further questions by PM. -- Wilfried Hennings whiskey hotel underscore november golf at golf mike xray dot delta echo Thanks you for the suggestion but does that not still leave me with only one way o insertion? What I was hoping to find was the equivalent of the LyX insertion menu where I have the choice of several different ways of inserting Author (date) (Author, date) (date) The Zotero package in Apache Open Office offers (Author date) as default and one can get the equivalents of pre and post text etc by editing the citation after insertion rather than before as one does in LyX. It was just a minor annoyance that I had to go back and edit the Zotero citation in LyX. I just find it more logical and convenient to do it the way LyX does natively. From my reading on the Zotero forum this seems an acknowledged issue and it really is a Word/OpenOffice problem so I won't worry about it. At a rough guess 80% of my citations would be (author, date) so the Zotero default makes sense. I was just being lazy. Thanks very much though.
Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
Le 24/08/2013 16:13, John Kane a écrit : I found a discussion of exactly that issue on a Zotero forum and came across a reference to the American Psychology Association blog that, as far as I can see, is almost exclusively devoted to advice on how to deal with the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association. This is very amusing indeed. Do they describe this particular obsession in their catalog of mental illnesses? At least they dropped the 'underscore instead of emphasize' madness some time ago. JMarc
Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:40:52 AM Subject: Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic) Le 24/08/2013 16:13, John Kane a écrit : I found a discussion of exactly that issue on a Zotero forum and came across a reference to the American Psychology Association blog that, as far as I can see, is almost exclusively devoted to advice on how to deal with the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association. This is very amusing indeed. Do they describe this particular obsession in their catalog of mental illnesses? At least they dropped the 'underscore instead of emphasize' madness some time ago. JMarc They don't have acatalog of mental illnesses. That's the American Psychiatric Association you're thinking of. I was amused to note that the APA Manual is ready for any eventuality. They even have an approved style for referencing retracted articles. Not that psychology would ever need such a thing.
simple question
Does anyone know whether Lyx works on Windows 8 64-bit? I´ve just finished the instalation and it is not working. The problem could be my windows version? Thanks, Tiago Tristão.
Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor
Even better, at the Technical University in Aachen they came with wonderful orange boxes to hold approximately a 10 cm stack of the cards so you kept them on your desk to write notes on the cards. I think I still have one with a few cards left at my mother's house :-)-O el On 2013-08-25 15:04 , John Kane wrote: Kids.! Remember SGML on the IBM mainframe? And did you know that you could use IBM punch cards as postcards?
Re: simple question
I have no idea. But if you are feeling a little adventurous you might want to try LyX 2.1 beta. You might have better luck with it: ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.1/lyx-2.1.0beta1/LyX-210beta1-Installer-1.exe Also, what do you mean by not working ? And which LyX version did you try to install? And using which Windows installer? I don't know anything about Windows so I won't be able to help you, but this information might be useful to someone who does. Scott On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Tiago Tristão tristao.ti...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know whether Lyx works on Windows 8 64-bit? I´ve just finished the instalation and it is not working. The problem could be my windows version? Thanks, Tiago Tristão.
Re: Citation and reference style
Am Sunday, 25. August 2013, 23:19:32 schrieb Csikos Bela: Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta: One more question: I found Elsarticle-harv the style which comes quite close to what the editor/Springer wants, except it gives me for citations (Author, 2004) instead of (Author 2004) in the \citep case. There is no offer for (Author 2004) (i.e. no comma) in the citation style selection. For \citealt there is a selection for Author 2004 (no comma). How could I get this right? Simply, instead of looking only at what the citation style selection offers, looking at the pdf output. It is what you describe. No comma between author and year. The Elsarticle-harv style works with the natbib package. Whatever you set in natbib will be valid. The citation style is determined by natbib package, not by the style (bst) file. The bst file determines the bibliography style. By the way the Elsarticle-harv bibliography style is not what you described in your opening post. The year is not in parenthesis. I attach the lyx file and the pdf output made by using Elsarticle-harv.bst. bcsikos Thanks, Csikos my %setcitestyle{round,aysep={}} \setcitestyle{comma,aysep={}} -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325
Re: Citation and reference style
Am Sunday, 25. August 2013, 23:19:32 schrieb Csikos Bela: Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta: One more question: I found Elsarticle-harv the style which comes quite close to what the editor/Springer wants, except it gives me for citations (Author, 2004) instead of (Author 2004) in the \citep case. There is no offer for (Author 2004) (i.e. no comma) in the citation style selection. For \citealt there is a selection for Author 2004 (no comma). How could I get this right? Simply, instead of looking only at what the citation style selection offers, looking at the pdf output. It is what you describe. No comma between author and year. The Elsarticle-harv style works with the natbib package. Whatever you set in natbib will be valid. The citation style is determined by natbib package, not by the style (bst) file. The bst file determines the bibliography style. By the way the Elsarticle-harv bibliography style is not what you described in your opening post. The year is not in parenthesis. I attach the lyx file and the pdf output made by using Elsarticle-harv.bst. bcsikos Thanks, Csikos instead of \setcitestyle{comma,aysep={}} I had used \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}} changing it to comma gives me what I need. I have to get familiar with the natbib package and its explanations. For the time being I am glad the chapter is now ready to be sent away. I appreciated your help a lot. Sorry for a mail sent a few minutes ago incidently and incomplete. Wolfgang
Re: list of figures and table overlapping with title
Am Saturday, 24. August 2013, 21:39:40 schrieb luke jones: Hi guys I'm using Lyx for my PhD thesis. Unfortunately I do not know how to use Latex, but I have been very happy with Lyx. When I generate the PDF output, in the list of figures and tables when I get to 5.5.10 5.5.11 then the 0 overlaps with the first letter of the title of the table or figure. had the same problem once. See http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/78633 for the solution, which says add in the preamble some of this: %more space between figurenumber and text in toc \usepackage{tocloft} %\addtolength{\cftlotnumwidth}{1em} %%\addtolength{\cftlotnumwidth}{2em} %\addtolength{\cftlofnumwidth}{1em} %%\addtolength{\cftlofnumwidth}{2em} %\addtolength{\cftsubsecnumwidth}{0.3em} \addtolength{\cftsubsecnumwidth}{0.5em} %\addtolength{\cftsecnumwidth}{0.3em} \addtolength{\cftsecnumwidth}{0.5em} %\addtolength{\cftchapnumwidth}{1em} \addtolength{\cftchapnumwidth}{2em} \addtolength{\cftfignumwidth}{1em} you might need to increase the numbers I have been reading online about changing Latex codes but I don't know how to do this. Is there an easy way to get round this problem? If not, could you advise me how to change the code for dummys! Thanks in advance LJ -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325
Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)
Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu Scott, I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15 and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version? Wolfgang
Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu Scott, I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15 and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version? Hi Wolfgang, I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The easiest way to do this is: git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command. In general, ./something means run the program 'something' which is located in my current directory. Thus you have to have a file named 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable. All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily see breaking. Best, Scott
Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)
Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 10:37:23 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu Scott, I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15 and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version? Hi Wolfgang, I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The easiest way to do this is: git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command. In general, ./something means run the program 'something' which is located in my current directory. Thus you have to have a file named 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable. All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily see breaking. Best, Scott Thanks, Scott. You mentioned in your announcement: It provides the following features: - installs TeX Live 2013 - notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get install lyx) - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals that are not included in TeX Live 2013 - links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they will be available It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's templates and examples. It can be downloaded from here: https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu Question: if I have installed texlive2013 from the DVD can I - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals that are not included in TeX Live 2013 by another way and from where? Wolfgang
Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 10:37:23 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote: Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu Scott, I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15 and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version? Hi Wolfgang, I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The easiest way to do this is: git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command. In general, ./something means run the program 'something' which is located in my current directory. Thus you have to have a file named 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable. All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily see breaking. Best, Scott Thanks, Scott. You mentioned in your announcement: It provides the following features: - installs TeX Live 2013 - notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get install lyx) - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals that are not included in TeX Live 2013 - links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they will be available It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's templates and examples. It can be downloaded from here: https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu Question: if I have installed texlive2013 from the DVD can I - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals that are not included in TeX Live 2013 Good question. No, you currently cannot do that. I would like to implement that eventually. For now, you will have to install them individually (that is, do not use the script). Most of LyX templates and examples give instructions on which files to download. Install them as you did in your other email, and that should work. Best, Scott
Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
John Kane wrote: I was poking around the Zotero site trying to see if there was a way to get a specific APA citation format [Author (date)] which is easy enough in LyX or LaTeX to work in a word processor such as AOO Writer or MS Word[1]. Well actually I was finding that Zotero inserts the citation in (Author, Date) format without allowing modifications as one can when inserting from a bibtex file and hoped to find a way to avoid having to go back and edit later if it could be done in a word processor. [...] 1. The answer was no, Zotero does not do this but there is a reasonable work around: Just type the Author part and insert the reference with author suppressed. You can easily edit Zotero's style file to make it insert the required parentheses. To edit Zotero's style file: - use a text editor which can handle UTF-8 files - do not overwrite the original style file but save the changed file with a different name and also change the style name in the header part. You can contact me for further questions by PM. -- Wilfried Hennings whiskey hotel underscore november golf at golf mike xray dot delta echo
Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
From: Wilfried wh...@gmx.de To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:43:33 AM Subject: Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic) John Kane wrote: I was poking around the Zotero site trying to see if there was a way to get a specific APA citation format [Author (date)] which is easy enough in LyX or LaTeX to work in a word processor such as AOO Writer or MS Word[1]. Well actually I was finding that Zotero inserts the citation in (Author, Date) format without allowing modifications as one can when inserting from a bibtex file and hoped to find a way to avoid having to go back and edit later if it could be done in a word processor. [...] 1. The answer was no, Zotero does not do this but there is a reasonable work around: Just type the Author part and insert the reference with author suppressed. You can easily edit Zotero's style file to make it insert the required parentheses. To edit Zotero's style file: - use a text editor which can handle UTF-8 files - do not overwrite the original style file but save the changed file with a different name and also change the style name in the header part. You can contact me for further questions by PM. -- Wilfried Hennings whiskey hotel underscore november golf at golf mike xray dot delta echo Thanks you for the suggestion but does that not still leave me with only one way o insertion? What I was hoping to find was the equivalent of the LyX insertion menu where I have the choice of several different ways of inserting Author (date) (Author, date) (date) The Zotero package in Apache Open Office offers (Author date) as default and one can get the equivalents of pre and post text etc by editing the citation after insertion rather than before as one does in LyX. It was just a minor annoyance that I had to go back and edit the Zotero citation in LyX. I just find it more logical and convenient to do it the way LyX does natively. From my reading on the Zotero forum this seems an acknowledged issue and it really is a Word/OpenOffice problem so I won't worry about it. At a rough guess 80% of my citations would be (author, date) so the Zotero default makes sense. I was just being lazy. Thanks very much though.
Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
Le 24/08/2013 16:13, John Kane a écrit : I found a discussion of exactly that issue on a Zotero forum and came across a reference to the American Psychology Association blog that, as far as I can see, is almost exclusively devoted to advice on how to deal with the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association. This is very amusing indeed. Do they describe this particular obsession in their catalog of mental illnesses? At least they dropped the 'underscore instead of emphasize' madness some time ago. JMarc
Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:40:52 AM Subject: Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic) Le 24/08/2013 16:13, John Kane a écrit : I found a discussion of exactly that issue on a Zotero forum and came across a reference to the American Psychology Association blog that, as far as I can see, is almost exclusively devoted to advice on how to deal with the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association. This is very amusing indeed. Do they describe this particular obsession in their catalog of mental illnesses? At least they dropped the 'underscore instead of emphasize' madness some time ago. JMarc They don't have acatalog of mental illnesses. That's the American Psychiatric Association you're thinking of. I was amused to note that the APA Manual is ready for any eventuality. They even have an approved style for referencing retracted articles. Not that psychology would ever need such a thing.
simple question
Does anyone know whether Lyx works on Windows 8 64-bit? I´ve just finished the instalation and it is not working. The problem could be my windows version? Thanks, Tiago Tristão.
Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor
Even better, at the Technical University in Aachen they came with wonderful orange boxes to hold approximately a 10 cm stack of the cards so you kept them on your desk to write notes on the cards. I think I still have one with a few cards left at my mother's house :-)-O el On 2013-08-25 15:04 , John Kane wrote: Kids.! Remember SGML on the IBM mainframe? And did you know that you could use IBM punch cards as postcards?
Re: simple question
I have no idea. But if you are feeling a little adventurous you might want to try LyX 2.1 beta. You might have better luck with it: ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.1/lyx-2.1.0beta1/LyX-210beta1-Installer-1.exe Also, what do you mean by not working ? And which LyX version did you try to install? And using which Windows installer? I don't know anything about Windows so I won't be able to help you, but this information might be useful to someone who does. Scott On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Tiago Tristão tristao.ti...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know whether Lyx works on Windows 8 64-bit? I´ve just finished the instalation and it is not working. The problem could be my windows version? Thanks, Tiago Tristão.
Re: Citation and reference style
Am Sunday, 25. August 2013, 23:19:32 schrieb Csikos Bela: > Wolfgang Engelmannírta: > >One more question: > >I found Elsarticle-harv the style which comes quite close to what the > >editor/Springer wants, except > > > >it gives me for citations (Author, 2004) instead of (Author 2004) > >in the \citep case. There is no offer for (Author 2004) (i.e. no comma) > >in the citation style selection. > > > >For \citealt there is a selection for Author 2004 (no comma). > > > >How could I get this right? > > Simply, instead of looking only at what the citation style selection > offers, looking at the pdf output. It is what you describe. No comma > between author and year. > > The Elsarticle-harv style works with the natbib package. > Whatever you set in natbib will be valid. The citation style is > determined by natbib package, not by the style (bst) file. > The bst file determines the bibliography style. > > By the way the Elsarticle-harv bibliography style is not what you > described in your opening post. The year is not in parenthesis. > > I attach the lyx file and the pdf output made by using > Elsarticle-harv.bst. > > bcsikos Thanks, Csikos my %setcitestyle{round,aysep={}} \setcitestyle{comma,aysep={}} -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325
Re: Citation and reference style
Am Sunday, 25. August 2013, 23:19:32 schrieb Csikos Bela: > Wolfgang Engelmannírta: > >One more question: > >I found Elsarticle-harv the style which comes quite close to what the > >editor/Springer wants, except > > > >it gives me for citations (Author, 2004) instead of (Author 2004) > >in the \citep case. There is no offer for (Author 2004) (i.e. no comma) > >in the citation style selection. > > > >For \citealt there is a selection for Author 2004 (no comma). > > > >How could I get this right? > > Simply, instead of looking only at what the citation style selection > offers, looking at the pdf output. It is what you describe. No comma > between author and year. > > The Elsarticle-harv style works with the natbib package. > Whatever you set in natbib will be valid. The citation style is > determined by natbib package, not by the style (bst) file. > The bst file determines the bibliography style. > > By the way the Elsarticle-harv bibliography style is not what you > described in your opening post. The year is not in parenthesis. > > I attach the lyx file and the pdf output made by using > Elsarticle-harv.bst. > > bcsikos Thanks, Csikos instead of \setcitestyle{comma,aysep={}} I had used \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}} changing it to comma gives me what I need. I have to get familiar with the natbib package and its explanations. For the time being I am glad the chapter is now ready to be sent away. I appreciated your help a lot. Sorry for a mail sent a few minutes ago incidently and incomplete. Wolfgang
Re: list of figures and table overlapping with title
Am Saturday, 24. August 2013, 21:39:40 schrieb luke jones: > Hi guys > > I'm using Lyx for my PhD thesis. Unfortunately I do not know how to use > Latex, but I have been very happy with Lyx. > > When I generate the PDF output, in the list of figures and tables when I > get to > > 5.5.10 > 5.5.11 > > then the 0 overlaps with the first letter of the title of the table or > figure. had the same problem once. See http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/78633 for the solution, which says add in the preamble some of this: %more space between figurenumber and text in toc \usepackage{tocloft} %\addtolength{\cftlotnumwidth}{1em} %%\addtolength{\cftlotnumwidth}{2em} %\addtolength{\cftlofnumwidth}{1em} %%\addtolength{\cftlofnumwidth}{2em} %\addtolength{\cftsubsecnumwidth}{0.3em} \addtolength{\cftsubsecnumwidth}{0.5em} %\addtolength{\cftsecnumwidth}{0.3em} \addtolength{\cftsecnumwidth}{0.5em} %\addtolength{\cftchapnumwidth}{1em} \addtolength{\cftchapnumwidth}{2em} \addtolength{\cftfignumwidth}{1em} you might need to increase the numbers > > I have been reading online about changing Latex codes but I don't know > how to do this. > > Is there an easy way to get round this problem? > > If not, could you advise me how to change the code "for dummys"! > > Thanks in advance > > LJ -- - Wolfgang Engelmann Schlossgartenstrasse 22 D-72070 Tübingen Tel 07071 68325
Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)
Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on > Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run > > sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu Scott, I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15 and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version? Wolfgang
Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmannwrote: > Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > >> This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on > >> Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run > >> > >> sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu > > > > Scott, > > > > I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15 > > and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould > > Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version? Hi Wolfgang, I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The easiest way to do this is: git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command. In general, ./something means <>. Thus you have to have a file named 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable. All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily see breaking. Best, Scott
Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)
Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 10:37:23 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann > >wrote: > > Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > >> This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on > >> > >> Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run > >> > >> > >> > >> sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu > > > > Scott, > > > > > > > > I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15 > > > > and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould > > > > Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version? > > Hi Wolfgang, > > I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have > to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The > easiest way to do this is: > > git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu > > Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command. > > In general, ./something means < located in my current directory>>. Thus you have to have a file named > 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable. > > All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless > you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all > and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily > see breaking. > > Best, > > Scott Thanks, Scott. You mentioned in your announcement: It provides the following features: - installs TeX Live 2013 - notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get install lyx) - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals that are not included in TeX Live 2013 - links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they will be available It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's templates and examples. It can be downloaded from here: https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu Question: if I have installed texlive2013 from the DVD can I - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals that are not included in TeX Live 2013 by another way and from where? Wolfgang
Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Wolfgang Engelmannwrote: > Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 10:37:23 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann > >> > >> wrote: > >> > Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > >> >> This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on > >> >> > >> >> Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu > >> > > >> > Scott, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15 > >> > > >> > and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould > >> > > >> > Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version? > >> > >> Hi Wolfgang, > >> > >> I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have > >> to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The > >> easiest way to do this is: > >> > >> git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu > >> > >> Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command. > >> > >> In general, ./something means < >> located in my current directory>>. Thus you have to have a file named > >> 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable. > >> > >> All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless > >> you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all > >> and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily > >> see breaking. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Scott > > > > Thanks, Scott. > > > > You mentioned in your announcement: > > > > It provides the following features: > > > > - installs TeX Live 2013 > > - notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu > > texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get > > install lyx) > > - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals > > that are not included in TeX Live 2013 > > - links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you > > install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they > > will be available > > > > It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's > > templates and examples. > > > > It can be downloaded from here: > > https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu > > > > > > Question: > > if I have installed texlive2013 from the DVD > > can I > > > > - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals > > that are not included in TeX Live 2013 Good question. No, you currently cannot do that. I would like to implement that eventually. For now, you will have to install them individually (that is, do not use the script). Most of LyX templates and examples give instructions on which files to download. Install them as you did in your other email, and that should work. Best, Scott
Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
John Kane wrote: > I was poking around the Zotero site trying to see if there was a way to get a > specific APA citation format [Author (date)] which is easy enough in LyX or > LaTeX to work in a word processor such as AOO Writer or MS Word[1]. Well > actually I was finding that Zotero inserts the citation in (Author, Date) > format without allowing modifications as one can when inserting from a bibtex > file and hoped to find a way to avoid having to go back and edit later if it > could be done in a word processor. >[...] > 1. The answer was no, Zotero does not do this but there is a reasonable work > around: Just type the Author part and insert the reference with author > suppressed. You can easily edit Zotero's style file to make it insert the required parentheses. To edit Zotero's style file: - use a text editor which can handle UTF-8 files - do not overwrite the original style file but save the changed file with a different name and also change the style name in the header part. You can contact me for further questions by PM. -- Wilfried Hennings whiskey hotel underscore november golf at golf mike xray dot delta echo
Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
From: WilfriedTo: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:43:33 AM Subject: Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic) John Kane wrote: > I was poking around the Zotero site trying to see if there was a way to get a > specific APA citation format [Author (date)] which is easy enough in LyX or > LaTeX to work in a word processor such as AOO Writer or MS Word[1]. Well > actually I was finding that Zotero inserts the citation in (Author, Date) > format without allowing modifications as one can when inserting from a bibtex > file and hoped to find a way to avoid having to go back and edit later if it > could be done in a word processor. >[...] > 1. The answer was no, Zotero does not do this but there is a reasonable work > around: Just type the Author part and insert the reference with author > suppressed. You can easily edit Zotero's style file to make it insert the required parentheses. To edit Zotero's style file: - use a text editor which can handle UTF-8 files - do not overwrite the original style file but save the changed file with a different name and also change the style name in the header part. You can contact me for further questions by PM. -- Wilfried Hennings whiskey hotel underscore november golf at golf mike xray dot delta echo Thanks you for the suggestion but does that not still leave me with only one way o insertion? What I was hoping to find was the equivalent of the LyX insertion menu where I have the choice of several different ways of inserting Author (date) (Author, date) (date) The Zotero package in Apache Open Office offers (Author date) as default and one can get the equivalents of pre and post text etc by editing the citation after insertion rather than before as one does in LyX. It was just a minor annoyance that I had to go back and edit the Zotero citation in LyX. I just find it more logical and convenient to do it the way LyX does natively. From my reading on the Zotero forum this seems an acknowledged issue and it really is a Word/OpenOffice problem so I won't worry about it. At a rough guess 80% of my citations would be (author, date) so the Zotero default makes sense. I was just being lazy. Thanks very much though.
Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
Le 24/08/2013 16:13, John Kane a écrit : I found a discussion of exactly that issue on a Zotero forum and came across a reference to the American Psychology Association blog that, as far as I can see, is almost exclusively devoted to advice on how to deal with the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association. This is very amusing indeed. Do they describe this particular obsession in their catalog of mental illnesses? At least they dropped the 'underscore instead of emphasize' madness some time ago. JMarc
Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
From: Jean-Marc LasgouttesTo: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:40:52 AM Subject: Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic) Le 24/08/2013 16:13, John Kane a écrit : > I found a discussion of exactly that issue on a Zotero forum and came > across a reference to the American Psychology Association blog that, as > far as I can see, is almost exclusively devoted to advice on how to deal > with the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association. This is very amusing indeed. Do they describe this particular obsession in their catalog of mental illnesses? At least they dropped the 'underscore instead of emphasize' madness some time ago. JMarc They don't have acatalog of mental illnesses. That's the American Psychiatric Association you're thinking of. I was amused to note that the APA Manual is ready for any eventuality. They even have an approved style for referencing retracted articles. Not that psychology would ever need such a thing.
simple question
Does anyone know whether Lyx works on Windows 8 64-bit? I´ve just finished the instalation and it is not working. The problem could be my windows version? Thanks, Tiago Tristão.
Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor
Even better, at the Technical University in Aachen they came with wonderful orange boxes to hold approximately a 10 cm stack of the cards so you kept them on your desk to write notes on the cards. I think I still have one with a few cards left at my mother's house :-)-O el On 2013-08-25 15:04 , John Kane wrote: > Kids.! Remember SGML on the IBM mainframe? > > And did you know that you could use IBM punch cards as postcards? >
Re: simple question
I have no idea. But if you are feeling a little adventurous you might want to try LyX 2.1 beta. You might have better luck with it: ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.1/lyx-2.1.0beta1/LyX-210beta1-Installer-1.exe Also, what do you mean by "not working" ? And which LyX version did you try to install? And using which Windows installer? I don't know anything about Windows so I won't be able to help you, but this information might be useful to someone who does. Scott On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Tiago Tristãowrote: > Does anyone know whether Lyx works on Windows 8 64-bit? > I´ve just finished the instalation and it is not working. The problem could > be my windows version? > > Thanks, > > Tiago Tristão.