Re: Citation and reference style

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Sunday, 25. August 2013, 23:19:32 schrieb Csikos Bela:
 Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:
 One more question:
 I found Elsarticle-harv the style which comes quite close to what the
 editor/Springer wants, except
 
 it gives me for citations (Author, 2004) instead of (Author 2004)
 in the \citep case. There is no offer for (Author 2004) (i.e. no comma)
 in the citation style selection.
 
 For \citealt there is a selection for Author 2004 (no comma).
 
 How could I get this right?
 
 Simply, instead of  looking only at what the citation style selection
 offers, looking at the pdf output. It is what you describe. No comma
 between author and year.
 
 The Elsarticle-harv style works with the natbib package.
 Whatever you set in natbib will be valid. The citation style is
 determined by natbib package, not by the style (bst) file.
 The bst file determines the bibliography style.
 
 By the way the Elsarticle-harv bibliography style is not what you
 described in your opening post. The year is not in parenthesis.
 
 I attach the lyx file and the pdf output made by using
 Elsarticle-harv.bst.
 
 bcsikos
Thanks, Csikos

my 
%setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}
\setcitestyle{comma,aysep={}}
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Tel 07071 68325


Re: Citation and reference style

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Sunday, 25. August 2013, 23:19:32 schrieb Csikos Bela:
 Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:
 One more question:
 I found Elsarticle-harv the style which comes quite close to what the
 editor/Springer wants, except
 
 it gives me for citations (Author, 2004) instead of (Author 2004)
 in the \citep case. There is no offer for (Author 2004) (i.e. no comma)
 in the citation style selection.
 
 For \citealt there is a selection for Author 2004 (no comma).
 
 How could I get this right?
 
 Simply, instead of  looking only at what the citation style selection
 offers, looking at the pdf output. It is what you describe. No comma
 between author and year.
 
 The Elsarticle-harv style works with the natbib package.
 Whatever you set in natbib will be valid. The citation style is
 determined by natbib package, not by the style (bst) file.
 The bst file determines the bibliography style.
 
 By the way the Elsarticle-harv bibliography style is not what you
 described in your opening post. The year is not in parenthesis.
 
 I attach the lyx file and the pdf output made by using
 Elsarticle-harv.bst.
 
 bcsikos

Thanks, Csikos

instead of 
\setcitestyle{comma,aysep={}}
I had used
\setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}

changing it to comma gives me what I need.
I have to get familiar with the natbib package and its explanations. For 
the time being I am glad the chapter is now ready to be sent away.

I appreciated your help a lot.

Sorry for a mail sent a few minutes ago incidently and incomplete. 

Wolfgang


Re: list of figures and table overlapping with title

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Saturday, 24. August 2013, 21:39:40 schrieb luke jones:
 Hi guys
 
 I'm using Lyx for my PhD thesis. Unfortunately I do not know how to use
 Latex, but I have been very happy with Lyx.
 
 When I generate the PDF output, in the list of figures and tables when I
 get to
 
 5.5.10
 5.5.11
 
 then the 0 overlaps with the first letter of the title of the table or
 figure.
had the same problem once. See

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/78633
for the solution, which says

add in the preamble some of this:


%more space between figurenumber and text in toc
\usepackage{tocloft}
%\addtolength{\cftlotnumwidth}{1em}
%%\addtolength{\cftlotnumwidth}{2em}
%\addtolength{\cftlofnumwidth}{1em}
%%\addtolength{\cftlofnumwidth}{2em}
%\addtolength{\cftsubsecnumwidth}{0.3em}
\addtolength{\cftsubsecnumwidth}{0.5em}
%\addtolength{\cftsecnumwidth}{0.3em}
\addtolength{\cftsecnumwidth}{0.5em}
%\addtolength{\cftchapnumwidth}{1em}
\addtolength{\cftchapnumwidth}{2em}
\addtolength{\cftfignumwidth}{1em}


you might need to increase the numbers

 
 I have been reading online about changing Latex codes but I don't know
 how to do this.
 
 Is there an easy way to get round this problem?
 
 If not, could you advise me how to change the code for dummys!
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 LJ


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Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325


Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on
 Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run
 
 sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu

Scott,

I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15
and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould
Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version?

Wolfgang


Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

2013-08-26 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
 Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:

 This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on

 Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run



 sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu



 Scott,



 I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15

 and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould

 Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version?

Hi Wolfgang,

I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have
to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The
easiest way to do this is:

git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu

Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command.

In general, ./something means run the program 'something' which is
located in my current directory. Thus you have to have a file named
'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable.

All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless
you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all
and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily
see breaking.

Best,

Scott


Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 10:37:23 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 
 engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
  Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
  This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on
  
  Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run
  
  
  
  sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu
  
  Scott,
  
  
  
  I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15
  
  and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould
  
  Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version?
 
 Hi Wolfgang,
 
 I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have
 to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The
 easiest way to do this is:
 
 git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu
 
 Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command.
 
 In general, ./something means run the program 'something' which is
 located in my current directory. Thus you have to have a file named
 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable.
 
 All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless
 you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all
 and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily
 see breaking.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

Thanks, Scott.

You mentioned in your announcement:

It provides the following features:

- installs TeX Live 2013
- notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu
texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get
install lyx)
- installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals
that are not included in TeX Live 2013
- links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you
install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they
will be available

It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's
templates and examples.

It can be downloaded from here:
https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu


Question:
if I have installed texlive2013 from the DVD
can I 

- installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals
that are not included in TeX Live 2013

by another way and from where?

Wolfgang


Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

2013-08-26 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
 Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 10:37:23 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:

 On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann



 engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:

  Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:

  This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on

 

  Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run

 

 

 

  sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu

 

  Scott,

 

 

 

  I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15

 

  and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould

 

  Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version?



 Hi Wolfgang,



 I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have

 to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The

 easiest way to do this is:



 git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu



 Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command.



 In general, ./something means run the program 'something' which is

 located in my current directory. Thus you have to have a file named

 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable.



 All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless

 you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all

 and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily

 see breaking.



 Best,



 Scott



 Thanks, Scott.



 You mentioned in your announcement:



 It provides the following features:



 - installs TeX Live 2013

 - notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu

 texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get

 install lyx)

 - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals

 that are not included in TeX Live 2013

 - links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you

 install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they

 will be available



 It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's

 templates and examples.



 It can be downloaded from here:

 https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu



 

 Question:

 if I have installed texlive2013 from the DVD

 can I



 - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals

 that are not included in TeX Live 2013

Good question. No, you currently cannot do that. I would like to
implement that eventually. For now, you will have to install them
individually (that is, do not use the script). Most of LyX templates
and examples give instructions on which files to download. Install
them as you did in your other email, and that should work.

Best, Scott


Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)

2013-08-26 Thread Wilfried
John Kane wrote:

 I was poking around the Zotero site trying to see if there was a way to get a 
 specific APA citation format [Author (date)] which is easy enough in LyX or 
 LaTeX to work in a word processor such as AOO Writer or MS Word[1]. Well 
 actually  I was finding that Zotero inserts the citation in (Author, Date) 
 format without allowing modifications as one can when inserting from a bibtex 
 file and hoped to find a way to avoid having to go back and edit later if it 
 could be done in a word processor.
[...] 
 1. The answer was no, Zotero does not do this but there is a reasonable work 
 around: Just type the Author part and insert the reference with author 
 suppressed. 

You can easily edit Zotero's style file to make it insert the required
parentheses. 
To edit Zotero's style file: 
- use a text editor which can handle UTF-8 files
- do not overwrite the original style file but save the changed file
with a different name and also change the style name in the header part.

You can contact me for further questions by PM.
-- 
Wilfried Hennings
whiskey hotel underscore november golf at golf mike xray dot delta echo



Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)

2013-08-26 Thread John Kane





 From: Wilfried wh...@gmx.de
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:43:33 AM
Subject: Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
 

John Kane wrote:

 I was poking around the Zotero site trying to see if there was a way to get a 
 specific APA citation format [Author (date)] which is easy enough in LyX or 
 LaTeX to work in a word processor such as AOO Writer or MS Word[1]. Well 
 actually  I was finding that Zotero inserts the citation in (Author, Date) 
 format without allowing modifications as one can when inserting from a bibtex 
 file and hoped to find a way to avoid having to go back and edit later if it 
 could be done in a word processor.
[...] 
 1. The answer was no, Zotero does not do this but there is a reasonable work 
 around: Just type the Author part and insert the reference with author 
 suppressed. 

You can easily edit Zotero's style file to make it insert the required
parentheses. 
To edit Zotero's style file: 
- use a text editor which can handle UTF-8 files
- do not overwrite the original style file but save the changed file
with a different name and also change the style name in the header part.

You can contact me for further questions by PM.
-- 
Wilfried Hennings
whiskey hotel underscore november golf at golf mike xray dot delta echo

Thanks you for the suggestion but does that not still leave me with only one 
way o insertion? What I was hoping to find was the equivalent of the LyX 
insertion menu where I have the choice of several different ways of inserting 

Author (date) 

(Author, date)

(date) 

The Zotero package in Apache Open Office offers (Author date) as default and 
one can get the equivalents of pre and post text etc by editing the citation 
after insertion rather than before as one does in LyX. It was just a minor 
annoyance that I had to go back and edit the Zotero citation in LyX. I just 
find it more logical and convenient to do it the way LyX does natively.

From my reading on the Zotero forum this seems an acknowledged issue and it 
really is a Word/OpenOffice problem so I won't worry about it. At a rough guess 
80% of my citations would be (author, date) so the Zotero default makes sense. 
I was just being lazy.

Thanks very much though.

Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)

2013-08-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 24/08/2013 16:13, John Kane a écrit :

I found a discussion of exactly that issue on a Zotero forum and came
across a reference to the American Psychology Association blog that, as
far as I can see, is almost exclusively devoted to advice on how to deal
with the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association.


This is very amusing indeed. Do they describe this particular obsession 
in their catalog of mental illnesses? At least they dropped the 
'underscore instead of emphasize' madness some time ago.


JMarc




Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)

2013-08-26 Thread John Kane





 From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:40:52 AM
Subject: Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
 

Le 24/08/2013 16:13, John Kane a écrit :
 I found a discussion of exactly that issue on a Zotero forum and came
 across a reference to the American Psychology Association blog that, as
 far as I can see, is almost exclusively devoted to advice on how to deal
 with the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association.

This is very amusing indeed. Do they describe this particular obsession in 
their catalog of mental illnesses? At least they dropped the 'underscore 
instead of emphasize' madness some time ago.

JMarc


They don't have acatalog of mental illnesses. That's the American Psychiatric 
Association you're thinking of.

I was amused to note that the APA Manual is ready for any eventuality. They 
even have an approved style for referencing retracted articles. Not that 
psychology would ever need such a thing.

simple question

2013-08-26 Thread Tiago Tristão
Does anyone know whether Lyx works on Windows 8 64-bit?
I´ve just finished the instalation and it is not working. The problem could
be my windows version?

Thanks,

Tiago Tristão.


Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-26 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Even better, at the Technical University in Aachen they came with
wonderful orange boxes to hold approximately a 10 cm stack of the
cards so you kept them on your desk to write notes on the cards.

I think I still have one with a few cards left at my mother's house
:-)-O

el


On 2013-08-25 15:04 , John Kane wrote:
 Kids.!  Remember SGML on the IBM mainframe?

 And did you know that you could use IBM punch cards as postcards?
 



Re: simple question

2013-08-26 Thread Scott Kostyshak
I have no idea. But if you are feeling a little adventurous you might
want to try LyX 2.1 beta. You might have better luck with it:

ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.1/lyx-2.1.0beta1/LyX-210beta1-Installer-1.exe

Also, what do you mean by not working ? And which LyX version did
you try to install? And using which Windows installer?

I don't know anything about Windows so I won't be able to help you,
but this information might be useful to someone who does.

Scott

On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Tiago Tristão tristao.ti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone know whether Lyx works on Windows 8 64-bit?
 I´ve just finished the instalation and it is not working. The problem could
 be my windows version?

 Thanks,

 Tiago Tristão.


Re: Citation and reference style

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Sunday, 25. August 2013, 23:19:32 schrieb Csikos Bela:
 Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:
 One more question:
 I found Elsarticle-harv the style which comes quite close to what the
 editor/Springer wants, except
 
 it gives me for citations (Author, 2004) instead of (Author 2004)
 in the \citep case. There is no offer for (Author 2004) (i.e. no comma)
 in the citation style selection.
 
 For \citealt there is a selection for Author 2004 (no comma).
 
 How could I get this right?
 
 Simply, instead of  looking only at what the citation style selection
 offers, looking at the pdf output. It is what you describe. No comma
 between author and year.
 
 The Elsarticle-harv style works with the natbib package.
 Whatever you set in natbib will be valid. The citation style is
 determined by natbib package, not by the style (bst) file.
 The bst file determines the bibliography style.
 
 By the way the Elsarticle-harv bibliography style is not what you
 described in your opening post. The year is not in parenthesis.
 
 I attach the lyx file and the pdf output made by using
 Elsarticle-harv.bst.
 
 bcsikos
Thanks, Csikos

my 
%setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}
\setcitestyle{comma,aysep={}}
-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325


Re: Citation and reference style

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Sunday, 25. August 2013, 23:19:32 schrieb Csikos Bela:
 Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:
 One more question:
 I found Elsarticle-harv the style which comes quite close to what the
 editor/Springer wants, except
 
 it gives me for citations (Author, 2004) instead of (Author 2004)
 in the \citep case. There is no offer for (Author 2004) (i.e. no comma)
 in the citation style selection.
 
 For \citealt there is a selection for Author 2004 (no comma).
 
 How could I get this right?
 
 Simply, instead of  looking only at what the citation style selection
 offers, looking at the pdf output. It is what you describe. No comma
 between author and year.
 
 The Elsarticle-harv style works with the natbib package.
 Whatever you set in natbib will be valid. The citation style is
 determined by natbib package, not by the style (bst) file.
 The bst file determines the bibliography style.
 
 By the way the Elsarticle-harv bibliography style is not what you
 described in your opening post. The year is not in parenthesis.
 
 I attach the lyx file and the pdf output made by using
 Elsarticle-harv.bst.
 
 bcsikos

Thanks, Csikos

instead of 
\setcitestyle{comma,aysep={}}
I had used
\setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}

changing it to comma gives me what I need.
I have to get familiar with the natbib package and its explanations. For 
the time being I am glad the chapter is now ready to be sent away.

I appreciated your help a lot.

Sorry for a mail sent a few minutes ago incidently and incomplete. 

Wolfgang


Re: list of figures and table overlapping with title

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Saturday, 24. August 2013, 21:39:40 schrieb luke jones:
 Hi guys
 
 I'm using Lyx for my PhD thesis. Unfortunately I do not know how to use
 Latex, but I have been very happy with Lyx.
 
 When I generate the PDF output, in the list of figures and tables when I
 get to
 
 5.5.10
 5.5.11
 
 then the 0 overlaps with the first letter of the title of the table or
 figure.
had the same problem once. See

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/78633
for the solution, which says

add in the preamble some of this:


%more space between figurenumber and text in toc
\usepackage{tocloft}
%\addtolength{\cftlotnumwidth}{1em}
%%\addtolength{\cftlotnumwidth}{2em}
%\addtolength{\cftlofnumwidth}{1em}
%%\addtolength{\cftlofnumwidth}{2em}
%\addtolength{\cftsubsecnumwidth}{0.3em}
\addtolength{\cftsubsecnumwidth}{0.5em}
%\addtolength{\cftsecnumwidth}{0.3em}
\addtolength{\cftsecnumwidth}{0.5em}
%\addtolength{\cftchapnumwidth}{1em}
\addtolength{\cftchapnumwidth}{2em}
\addtolength{\cftfignumwidth}{1em}


you might need to increase the numbers

 
 I have been reading online about changing Latex codes but I don't know
 how to do this.
 
 Is there an easy way to get round this problem?
 
 If not, could you advise me how to change the code for dummys!
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 LJ


-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325


Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on
 Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run
 
 sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu

Scott,

I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15
and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould
Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version?

Wolfgang


Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

2013-08-26 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
 Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:

 This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on

 Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run



 sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu



 Scott,



 I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15

 and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould

 Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version?

Hi Wolfgang,

I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have
to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The
easiest way to do this is:

git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu

Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command.

In general, ./something means run the program 'something' which is
located in my current directory. Thus you have to have a file named
'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable.

All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless
you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all
and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily
see breaking.

Best,

Scott


Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 10:37:23 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 
 engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
  Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
  This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on
  
  Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run
  
  
  
  sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu
  
  Scott,
  
  
  
  I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15
  
  and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould
  
  Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version?
 
 Hi Wolfgang,
 
 I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have
 to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The
 easiest way to do this is:
 
 git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu
 
 Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command.
 
 In general, ./something means run the program 'something' which is
 located in my current directory. Thus you have to have a file named
 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable.
 
 All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless
 you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all
 and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily
 see breaking.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

Thanks, Scott.

You mentioned in your announcement:

It provides the following features:

- installs TeX Live 2013
- notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu
texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get
install lyx)
- installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals
that are not included in TeX Live 2013
- links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you
install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they
will be available

It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's
templates and examples.

It can be downloaded from here:
https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu


Question:
if I have installed texlive2013 from the DVD
can I 

- installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals
that are not included in TeX Live 2013

by another way and from where?

Wolfgang


Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

2013-08-26 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
 Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 10:37:23 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:

 On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann



 engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:

  Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:

  This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on

 

  Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run

 

 

 

  sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu

 

  Scott,

 

 

 

  I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15

 

  and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould

 

  Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version?



 Hi Wolfgang,



 I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have

 to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The

 easiest way to do this is:



 git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu



 Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command.



 In general, ./something means run the program 'something' which is

 located in my current directory. Thus you have to have a file named

 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable.



 All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless

 you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all

 and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily

 see breaking.



 Best,



 Scott



 Thanks, Scott.



 You mentioned in your announcement:



 It provides the following features:



 - installs TeX Live 2013

 - notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu

 texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get

 install lyx)

 - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals

 that are not included in TeX Live 2013

 - links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you

 install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they

 will be available



 It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's

 templates and examples.



 It can be downloaded from here:

 https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu



 

 Question:

 if I have installed texlive2013 from the DVD

 can I



 - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals

 that are not included in TeX Live 2013

Good question. No, you currently cannot do that. I would like to
implement that eventually. For now, you will have to install them
individually (that is, do not use the script). Most of LyX templates
and examples give instructions on which files to download. Install
them as you did in your other email, and that should work.

Best, Scott


Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)

2013-08-26 Thread Wilfried
John Kane wrote:

 I was poking around the Zotero site trying to see if there was a way to get a 
 specific APA citation format [Author (date)] which is easy enough in LyX or 
 LaTeX to work in a word processor such as AOO Writer or MS Word[1]. Well 
 actually  I was finding that Zotero inserts the citation in (Author, Date) 
 format without allowing modifications as one can when inserting from a bibtex 
 file and hoped to find a way to avoid having to go back and edit later if it 
 could be done in a word processor.
[...] 
 1. The answer was no, Zotero does not do this but there is a reasonable work 
 around: Just type the Author part and insert the reference with author 
 suppressed. 

You can easily edit Zotero's style file to make it insert the required
parentheses. 
To edit Zotero's style file: 
- use a text editor which can handle UTF-8 files
- do not overwrite the original style file but save the changed file
with a different name and also change the style name in the header part.

You can contact me for further questions by PM.
-- 
Wilfried Hennings
whiskey hotel underscore november golf at golf mike xray dot delta echo



Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)

2013-08-26 Thread John Kane





 From: Wilfried wh...@gmx.de
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:43:33 AM
Subject: Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
 

John Kane wrote:

 I was poking around the Zotero site trying to see if there was a way to get a 
 specific APA citation format [Author (date)] which is easy enough in LyX or 
 LaTeX to work in a word processor such as AOO Writer or MS Word[1]. Well 
 actually  I was finding that Zotero inserts the citation in (Author, Date) 
 format without allowing modifications as one can when inserting from a bibtex 
 file and hoped to find a way to avoid having to go back and edit later if it 
 could be done in a word processor.
[...] 
 1. The answer was no, Zotero does not do this but there is a reasonable work 
 around: Just type the Author part and insert the reference with author 
 suppressed. 

You can easily edit Zotero's style file to make it insert the required
parentheses. 
To edit Zotero's style file: 
- use a text editor which can handle UTF-8 files
- do not overwrite the original style file but save the changed file
with a different name and also change the style name in the header part.

You can contact me for further questions by PM.
-- 
Wilfried Hennings
whiskey hotel underscore november golf at golf mike xray dot delta echo

Thanks you for the suggestion but does that not still leave me with only one 
way o insertion? What I was hoping to find was the equivalent of the LyX 
insertion menu where I have the choice of several different ways of inserting 

Author (date) 

(Author, date)

(date) 

The Zotero package in Apache Open Office offers (Author date) as default and 
one can get the equivalents of pre and post text etc by editing the citation 
after insertion rather than before as one does in LyX. It was just a minor 
annoyance that I had to go back and edit the Zotero citation in LyX. I just 
find it more logical and convenient to do it the way LyX does natively.

From my reading on the Zotero forum this seems an acknowledged issue and it 
really is a Word/OpenOffice problem so I won't worry about it. At a rough guess 
80% of my citations would be (author, date) so the Zotero default makes sense. 
I was just being lazy.

Thanks very much though.

Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)

2013-08-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 24/08/2013 16:13, John Kane a écrit :

I found a discussion of exactly that issue on a Zotero forum and came
across a reference to the American Psychology Association blog that, as
far as I can see, is almost exclusively devoted to advice on how to deal
with the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association.


This is very amusing indeed. Do they describe this particular obsession 
in their catalog of mental illnesses? At least they dropped the 
'underscore instead of emphasize' madness some time ago.


JMarc




Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)

2013-08-26 Thread John Kane





 From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:40:52 AM
Subject: Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
 

Le 24/08/2013 16:13, John Kane a écrit :
 I found a discussion of exactly that issue on a Zotero forum and came
 across a reference to the American Psychology Association blog that, as
 far as I can see, is almost exclusively devoted to advice on how to deal
 with the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association.

This is very amusing indeed. Do they describe this particular obsession in 
their catalog of mental illnesses? At least they dropped the 'underscore 
instead of emphasize' madness some time ago.

JMarc


They don't have acatalog of mental illnesses. That's the American Psychiatric 
Association you're thinking of.

I was amused to note that the APA Manual is ready for any eventuality. They 
even have an approved style for referencing retracted articles. Not that 
psychology would ever need such a thing.

simple question

2013-08-26 Thread Tiago Tristão
Does anyone know whether Lyx works on Windows 8 64-bit?
I´ve just finished the instalation and it is not working. The problem could
be my windows version?

Thanks,

Tiago Tristão.


Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-26 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Even better, at the Technical University in Aachen they came with
wonderful orange boxes to hold approximately a 10 cm stack of the
cards so you kept them on your desk to write notes on the cards.

I think I still have one with a few cards left at my mother's house
:-)-O

el


On 2013-08-25 15:04 , John Kane wrote:
 Kids.!  Remember SGML on the IBM mainframe?

 And did you know that you could use IBM punch cards as postcards?
 



Re: simple question

2013-08-26 Thread Scott Kostyshak
I have no idea. But if you are feeling a little adventurous you might
want to try LyX 2.1 beta. You might have better luck with it:

ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.1/lyx-2.1.0beta1/LyX-210beta1-Installer-1.exe

Also, what do you mean by not working ? And which LyX version did
you try to install? And using which Windows installer?

I don't know anything about Windows so I won't be able to help you,
but this information might be useful to someone who does.

Scott

On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Tiago Tristão tristao.ti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone know whether Lyx works on Windows 8 64-bit?
 I´ve just finished the instalation and it is not working. The problem could
 be my windows version?

 Thanks,

 Tiago Tristão.


Re: Citation and reference style

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Sunday, 25. August 2013, 23:19:32 schrieb Csikos Bela:
> Wolfgang Engelmann  írta:
> >One more question:
> >I found Elsarticle-harv the style which comes quite close to what the
> >editor/Springer wants, except
> >
> >it gives me for citations (Author, 2004) instead of (Author 2004)
> >in the \citep case. There is no offer for (Author 2004) (i.e. no comma)
> >in the citation style selection.
> >
> >For \citealt there is a selection for Author 2004 (no comma).
> >
> >How could I get this right?
> 
> Simply, instead of  looking only at what the citation style selection
> offers, looking at the pdf output. It is what you describe. No comma
> between author and year.
> 
> The Elsarticle-harv style works with the natbib package.
> Whatever you set in natbib will be valid. The citation style is
> determined by natbib package, not by the style (bst) file.
> The bst file determines the bibliography style.
> 
> By the way the Elsarticle-harv bibliography style is not what you
> described in your opening post. The year is not in parenthesis.
> 
> I attach the lyx file and the pdf output made by using
> Elsarticle-harv.bst.
> 
> bcsikos
Thanks, Csikos

my 
%setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}
\setcitestyle{comma,aysep={}}
-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325


Re: Citation and reference style

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Sunday, 25. August 2013, 23:19:32 schrieb Csikos Bela:
> Wolfgang Engelmann  írta:
> >One more question:
> >I found Elsarticle-harv the style which comes quite close to what the
> >editor/Springer wants, except
> >
> >it gives me for citations (Author, 2004) instead of (Author 2004)
> >in the \citep case. There is no offer for (Author 2004) (i.e. no comma)
> >in the citation style selection.
> >
> >For \citealt there is a selection for Author 2004 (no comma).
> >
> >How could I get this right?
> 
> Simply, instead of  looking only at what the citation style selection
> offers, looking at the pdf output. It is what you describe. No comma
> between author and year.
> 
> The Elsarticle-harv style works with the natbib package.
> Whatever you set in natbib will be valid. The citation style is
> determined by natbib package, not by the style (bst) file.
> The bst file determines the bibliography style.
> 
> By the way the Elsarticle-harv bibliography style is not what you
> described in your opening post. The year is not in parenthesis.
> 
> I attach the lyx file and the pdf output made by using
> Elsarticle-harv.bst.
> 
> bcsikos

Thanks, Csikos

instead of 
\setcitestyle{comma,aysep={}}
I had used
\setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}

changing it to comma gives me what I need.
I have to get familiar with the natbib package and its explanations. For 
the time being I am glad the chapter is now ready to be sent away.

I appreciated your help a lot.

Sorry for a mail sent a few minutes ago incidently and incomplete. 

Wolfgang


Re: list of figures and table overlapping with title

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Saturday, 24. August 2013, 21:39:40 schrieb luke jones:
> Hi guys
> 
> I'm using Lyx for my PhD thesis. Unfortunately I do not know how to use
> Latex, but I have been very happy with Lyx.
> 
> When I generate the PDF output, in the list of figures and tables when I
> get to
> 
> 5.5.10
> 5.5.11
> 
> then the 0 overlaps with the first letter of the title of the table or
> figure.
had the same problem once. See

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/78633
for the solution, which says

add in the preamble some of this:


%more space between figurenumber and text in toc
\usepackage{tocloft}
%\addtolength{\cftlotnumwidth}{1em}
%%\addtolength{\cftlotnumwidth}{2em}
%\addtolength{\cftlofnumwidth}{1em}
%%\addtolength{\cftlofnumwidth}{2em}
%\addtolength{\cftsubsecnumwidth}{0.3em}
\addtolength{\cftsubsecnumwidth}{0.5em}
%\addtolength{\cftsecnumwidth}{0.3em}
\addtolength{\cftsecnumwidth}{0.5em}
%\addtolength{\cftchapnumwidth}{1em}
\addtolength{\cftchapnumwidth}{2em}
\addtolength{\cftfignumwidth}{1em}


you might need to increase the numbers

> 
> I have been reading online about changing Latex codes but I don't know
> how to do this.
> 
> Is there an easy way to get round this problem?
> 
> If not, could you advise me how to change the code "for dummys"!
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> LJ


-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325


Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on
> Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run
> 
> sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu

Scott,

I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15
and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould
Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version?

Wolfgang


Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

2013-08-26 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 wrote:
> Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
>
>> This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on
>
>> Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run
>
>>
>
>> sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu
>
>
>
> Scott,
>
>
>
> I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15
>
> and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould
>
> Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version?

Hi Wolfgang,

I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have
to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The
easiest way to do this is:

git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu

Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command.

In general, ./something means <>. Thus you have to have a file named
'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable.

All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless
you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all
and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily
see breaking.

Best,

Scott


Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

2013-08-26 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 10:37:23 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
> 
>  wrote:
> > Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> >> This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on
> >> 
> >> Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu
> > 
> > Scott,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15
> > 
> > and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould
> > 
> > Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version?
> 
> Hi Wolfgang,
> 
> I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have
> to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The
> easiest way to do this is:
> 
> git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu
> 
> Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command.
> 
> In general, ./something means < located in my current directory>>. Thus you have to have a file named
> 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable.
> 
> All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless
> you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all
> and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily
> see breaking.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Scott

Thanks, Scott.

You mentioned in your announcement:

It provides the following features:

- installs TeX Live 2013
- notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu
texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get
install lyx)
- installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals
that are not included in TeX Live 2013
- links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you
install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they
will be available

It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's
templates and examples.

It can be downloaded from here:
https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu


Question:
if I have installed texlive2013 from the DVD
can I 

- installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals
that are not included in TeX Live 2013

by another way and from where?

Wolfgang


Re: install-tl-ubuntu (easily install TeX Live 2013 on Ubuntu)

2013-08-26 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 wrote:
> Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 10:37:23 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
>
>>
>
>>  wrote:
>
>> > Am Monday, 26. August 2013, 06:48:31 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
>
>> >> This program is meant to ease the installation of TeX Live 2013 on
>
>> >>
>
>> >> Ubuntu versions 12.04 and later. To use, simply run
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >>
>
>> >> sudo ./install-tl-ubuntu
>
>> >
>
>> > Scott,
>
>> >
>
>> >
>
>> >
>
>> > I tried it on LunixMint (Debian) version15
>
>> >
>
>> > and I get bash: ./install-tl-ubuntu: file not fould
>
>> >
>
>> > Is this, because it is not an Ubuntu based version?
>
>>
>
>> Hi Wolfgang,
>
>>
>
>> I should have been more careful with the instructions. You first have
>
>> to get install-tl-ubuntu (and debian-control-texlive-in.txt). The
>
>> easiest way to do this is:
>
>>
>
>> git clone https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu
>
>>
>
>> Then go to the directory and that's where you can run the command.
>
>>
>
>> In general, ./something means <
>> located in my current directory>>. Thus you have to have a file named
>
>> 'something' in your current directory. Also, it must be executable.
>
>>
>
>> All of that said, I would not recommend running this on Mint unless
>
>> you are prepared for something to go wrong. I have not tested at all
>
>> and there are some fragile things in the script that I could easily
>
>> see breaking.
>
>>
>
>> Best,
>
>>
>
>> Scott
>
>
>
> Thanks, Scott.
>
>
>
> You mentioned in your announcement:
>
>
>
> It provides the following features:
>
>
>
> - installs TeX Live 2013
>
> - notifies apt so that apt does not try to install the Ubuntu
>
> texlive-* packages as dependencies (e.g. if you do sudo apt-get
>
> install lyx)
>
> - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals
>
> that are not included in TeX Live 2013
>
> - links to the folder where Ubuntu installs TeX files so that when you
>
> install Ubuntu packages (e.g. FoilTeXand noweb) with LaTeX files, they
>
> will be available
>
>
>
> It can optionally install the TeX dependencies for all of LyX's
>
> templates and examples.
>
>
>
> It can be downloaded from here:
>
> https://github.com/scottkosty/install-tl-ubuntu
>
>
>
> 
>
> Question:
>
> if I have installed texlive2013 from the DVD
>
> can I
>
>
>
> - installs (optionally) additional LaTeX files for common journals
>
> that are not included in TeX Live 2013

Good question. No, you currently cannot do that. I would like to
implement that eventually. For now, you will have to install them
individually (that is, do not use the script). Most of LyX templates
and examples give instructions on which files to download. Install
them as you did in your other email, and that should work.

Best, Scott


Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)

2013-08-26 Thread Wilfried
John Kane wrote:

> I was poking around the Zotero site trying to see if there was a way to get a 
> specific APA citation format [Author (date)] which is easy enough in LyX or 
> LaTeX to work in a word processor such as AOO Writer or MS Word[1]. Well 
> actually  I was finding that Zotero inserts the citation in (Author, Date) 
> format without allowing modifications as one can when inserting from a bibtex 
> file and hoped to find a way to avoid having to go back and edit later if it 
> could be done in a word processor.
>[...] 
> 1. The answer was no, Zotero does not do this but there is a reasonable work 
> around: Just type the Author part and insert the reference with author 
> suppressed. 

You can easily edit Zotero's style file to make it insert the required
parentheses. 
To edit Zotero's style file: 
- use a text editor which can handle UTF-8 files
- do not overwrite the original style file but save the changed file
with a different name and also change the style name in the header part.

You can contact me for further questions by PM.
-- 
Wilfried Hennings
whiskey hotel underscore november golf at golf mike xray dot delta echo



Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)

2013-08-26 Thread John Kane





 From: Wilfried 
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:43:33 AM
Subject: Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
 

John Kane wrote:

> I was poking around the Zotero site trying to see if there was a way to get a 
> specific APA citation format [Author (date)] which is easy enough in LyX or 
> LaTeX to work in a word processor such as AOO Writer or MS Word[1]. Well 
> actually  I was finding that Zotero inserts the citation in (Author, Date) 
> format without allowing modifications as one can when inserting from a bibtex 
> file and hoped to find a way to avoid having to go back and edit later if it 
> could be done in a word processor.
>[...] 
> 1. The answer was no, Zotero does not do this but there is a reasonable work 
> around: Just type the Author part and insert the reference with author 
> suppressed. 

You can easily edit Zotero's style file to make it insert the required
parentheses. 
To edit Zotero's style file: 
- use a text editor which can handle UTF-8 files
- do not overwrite the original style file but save the changed file
with a different name and also change the style name in the header part.

You can contact me for further questions by PM.
-- 
Wilfried Hennings
whiskey hotel underscore november golf at golf mike xray dot delta echo

Thanks you for the suggestion but does that not still leave me with only one 
way o insertion? What I was hoping to find was the equivalent of the LyX 
insertion menu where I have the choice of several different ways of inserting 

Author (date) 

(Author, date)

(date) 

The Zotero package in Apache Open Office offers (Author date) as default and 
one can get the equivalents of pre and post text etc by editing the citation 
after insertion rather than before as one does in LyX. It was just a minor 
annoyance that I had to go back and edit the Zotero citation in LyX. I just 
find it more logical and convenient to do it the way LyX does natively.

From my reading on the Zotero forum this seems an acknowledged issue and it 
really is a Word/OpenOffice problem so I won't worry about it. At a rough guess 
80% of my citations would be (author, date) so the Zotero default makes sense. 
I was just being lazy.

Thanks very much though.

Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)

2013-08-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 24/08/2013 16:13, John Kane a écrit :

I found a discussion of exactly that issue on a Zotero forum and came
across a reference to the American Psychology Association blog that, as
far as I can see, is almost exclusively devoted to advice on how to deal
with the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association.


This is very amusing indeed. Do they describe this particular obsession 
in their catalog of mental illnesses? At least they dropped the 
'underscore instead of emphasize' madness some time ago.


JMarc




Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)

2013-08-26 Thread John Kane





 From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes 
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:40:52 AM
Subject: Re: The tyranny of the APA Manual (more or less on topic)
 

Le 24/08/2013 16:13, John Kane a écrit :
> I found a discussion of exactly that issue on a Zotero forum and came
> across a reference to the American Psychology Association blog that, as
> far as I can see, is almost exclusively devoted to advice on how to deal
> with the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association.

This is very amusing indeed. Do they describe this particular obsession in 
their catalog of mental illnesses? At least they dropped the 'underscore 
instead of emphasize' madness some time ago.

JMarc


They don't have acatalog of mental illnesses. That's the American Psychiatric 
Association you're thinking of.

I was amused to note that the APA Manual is ready for any eventuality. They 
even have an approved style for referencing retracted articles. Not that 
psychology would ever need such a thing.

simple question

2013-08-26 Thread Tiago Tristão
Does anyone know whether Lyx works on Windows 8 64-bit?
I´ve just finished the instalation and it is not working. The problem could
be my windows version?

Thanks,

Tiago Tristão.


Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-26 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Even better, at the Technical University in Aachen they came with
wonderful orange boxes to hold approximately a 10 cm stack of the
cards so you kept them on your desk to write notes on the cards.

I think I still have one with a few cards left at my mother's house
:-)-O

el


On 2013-08-25 15:04 , John Kane wrote:
> Kids.!  Remember SGML on the IBM mainframe?
>
> And did you know that you could use IBM punch cards as postcards?
> 



Re: simple question

2013-08-26 Thread Scott Kostyshak
I have no idea. But if you are feeling a little adventurous you might
want to try LyX 2.1 beta. You might have better luck with it:

ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.1/lyx-2.1.0beta1/LyX-210beta1-Installer-1.exe

Also, what do you mean by "not working" ? And which LyX version did
you try to install? And using which Windows installer?

I don't know anything about Windows so I won't be able to help you,
but this information might be useful to someone who does.

Scott

On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Tiago Tristão  wrote:
> Does anyone know whether Lyx works on Windows 8 64-bit?
> I´ve just finished the instalation and it is not working. The problem could
> be my windows version?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tiago Tristão.