test, please ignore

[stefano franchi]

test, please ignore

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

confusion about IEEEtran vs. ieee bib

[Neal Becker]

I'm using ieeetr bib option in lyx, which uses ieeetr bib style.

I'm using texlive on fedora 20.  I also have a package:

rpm -ql  texlive-biblatex-ieee
/usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee
/usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee/lppl1.3.txt
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.bbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.cbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.bbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.cbx

What is this, how would lyx use it, and should I care?

Re: confusion about IEEEtran vs. ieee bib

[stefano franchi]

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm using ieeetr bib option in lyx, which uses ieeetr bib style.

 I'm using texlive on fedora 20.  I also have a package:

 rpm -ql  texlive-biblatex-ieee
 /usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee
 /usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee/lppl1.3.txt
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.bbx
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.cbx
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.bbx
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.cbx


 What is this,

Well, these are two biblatex styles for ieee (cbx files are the
citation styles, and .bbx files are the style for the references
section). If you use standard bibtex you can safely ignore them. You
probably have one or more  .bst files in your installation (perhaps
ieeetr.bst) that governs formatting under bibtex. Should you decide to
use biblatex instead, you would probably use the styles you listed.



 how would lyx use it

See the wiki page on biblatex on how to use it from within lyx.
Support is currently only partial. That means yo uneed to load
bibalatex (with the required styles) and the .bib file  manually from
the preamble. You can insert citation directly with LyX interface,
unless you want to do fancy things.

 and should I care?

I'm afraid that's up to you to decide...;-)


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Odd bibliography/citation formatting, ERT formatting

[Jason F. Siegel]

On 03/05/2014 01:30 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, stefano franchi
stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu wrote:

On 03/05/2014 12:36 AM, stefano franchi wrote:

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu
wrote:

On 03/03/2014 05:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:

Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu írta:

I've attached the LaTeX and BiBTex logs in one text file. I've also
attached a LyX MWE with the ERT that got left out of the first one, to
show the formatting problems that were apparent in the PDF of the beta
file.

--Jason


On 03/03/2014 12:58 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu
wrote:

Hi Csikos,

I've provided a non-beta file with this e-mail. However, here the
problem is
different, as I stated in the original e-mail. In the non-beta, even
with
what I believe are the same settings (I'll admit I could be overlooking
something), the references don't load at all. There is no formatting of
the
citations and no bibliography prints at the end. I would be happy to
continue to use the stable version of LyX if it meant I could get my
references and could format my ERT properly.

I have attached the PDFs of the non beta and the PDF of the earlier LyX
file
and also the .bib file, as well, so that people can see what I'm
seeing,
even if it's not reproducing on their machine.

Jason,

you file works fine here on LyX 2.0.7 (see attached). Citation and
bibliography are as you desire (I think).

What do you see in the log file?


Stefano

--Jason



On 03/03/2014 08:37 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:

Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu írta:

Hello all,

I'm having some trouble getting my bibliography and in-line citations
formatted properly. For some reason, the bibliography is sorting in
the
order the references are cited, rather than in alphabetical order.
Moreover, inline citations that should be Author (YEAR) are Author
(Title). I'm using biblatex 2.8 and biber 1.8, with natbib and
plainnat
style on Ubuntu 13.10 with Lyx 2.1.0dev (the references don't even
load
in 2.0.7 for some reason).

In the same document, ERT with the ExPex package isn't formatting as
expected. I'm trying to get bold italics , but \bf gives me bold
upright
characters and \textbf gives me one bold italicized character
followed
by italics. I'm also trying to get small caps, but it's just plain
lowercase. Any thoughts or aid people can give would be most welcome.
I've attached an he.

Jason,

I tried to open your MWE but it seems it is in lyx 2.1 format. I have
only
lyx 2.0 installed.

Jason,

I have some general comments.

- Please do not top post. Always write your message _below_ the included
previous messages or _right_below_ to a part (of a previous message) you are
actually refer to.

- The examples you have provided are not minimal examples. Rather they are
very complex documents. Try to reduce the example to as simple as possible
removing unnecessary text, unnecessary options, and preamble settings but
keeping those that cause the error.

Back to the specific case:

In the bib file you attached in your previous mail (MasterList.bib) the
last entry (@BOOK{UNICEF2009) is incomplete and not correctly closed.  There
is a missing } at the end and I think address =  is not valid. The entry
Cohen1998 is not correct. For me this caused compilation error and a very
different output.

I am attaching the corrected bib file and two pdfs, compiled with the
original, and with the fixed bib file.

In your current message the log file indicates that during compilation
bibtex is used. This should be biber (backend is set to biber in the
preamble). Maybe you have not set lyx to use biber instead of bibtex under
Tools=Preferences=Output=LaTeX=Processor: biber. Make sure you have
biber set there.

Hi Csikos,
,
Thanks for your helpful instructions, and for fixing my bibliography.
Unfortunately, they do not solve my problems. Any time I select biber as the
backend (in the preamble, in settings, in preferences, and in any
combination), the PDF does not compile. With your fix, in both the beta and
the stable version, I get two 'Undefined control sequence' errors, one for
\sortlist and the other for \endsortlist.

Hi Jason,

my suggestion to get out of the problem you find yourself is the same
as Cskos's: try to reduce the number of variables as much as possible
in order to isolate the root of the problem.

The first thing you need to find out is whether you have a working
biblatex+biber installation.
1. Make a new lyx file using one of the standard classes (book,
article), add )only* your biblatex call to the preamble (the
\usepackage and the \addbibresource commands), and put no more than
one word of text in the file itself, plus a couple of references at
most. See what happens.

If biblatex/biber work in the simplest possible scenario, you can
start to work on your (very complex) 

Re: Odd bibliography/citation formatting, ERT formatting

[stefano franchi]

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu wrote:
 On 03/05/2014 01:30 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, stefano franchi
 stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu
 wrote:

 On 03/05/2014 12:36 AM, stefano franchi wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu
 wrote:

 On 03/03/2014 05:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:

 Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu írta:

 I've attached the LaTeX and BiBTex logs in one text file. I've also
 attached a LyX MWE with the ERT that got left out of the first one, to
 show the formatting problems that were apparent in the PDF of the beta
 file.

 --Jason


 On 03/03/2014 12:58 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu
 wrote:

 Hi Csikos,

 I've provided a non-beta file with this e-mail. However, here the
 problem is
 different, as I stated in the original e-mail. In the non-beta, even
 with
 what I believe are the same settings (I'll admit I could be overlooking
 something), the references don't load at all. There is no formatting of
 the
 citations and no bibliography prints at the end. I would be happy to
 continue to use the stable version of LyX if it meant I could get my
 references and could format my ERT properly.

 I have attached the PDFs of the non beta and the PDF of the earlier LyX
 file
 and also the .bib file, as well, so that people can see what I'm
 seeing,
 even if it's not reproducing on their machine.

 Jason,

 you file works fine here on LyX 2.0.7 (see attached). Citation and
 bibliography are as you desire (I think).

 What do you see in the log file?


 Stefano

 --Jason



 On 03/03/2014 08:37 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:

 Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu írta:

 Hello all,

 I'm having some trouble getting my bibliography and in-line citations
 formatted properly. For some reason, the bibliography is sorting in
 the
 order the references are cited, rather than in alphabetical order.
 Moreover, inline citations that should be Author (YEAR) are Author
 (Title). I'm using biblatex 2.8 and biber 1.8, with natbib and
 plainnat
 style on Ubuntu 13.10 with Lyx 2.1.0dev (the references don't even
 load
 in 2.0.7 for some reason).

 In the same document, ERT with the ExPex package isn't formatting as
 expected. I'm trying to get bold italics , but \bf gives me bold
 upright
 characters and \textbf gives me one bold italicized character
 followed
 by italics. I'm also trying to get small caps, but it's just plain
 lowercase. Any thoughts or aid people can give would be most welcome.
 I've attached an he.

 Jason,

 I tried to open your MWE but it seems it is in lyx 2.1 format. I have
 only
 lyx 2.0 installed.

 Jason,

 I have some general comments.

 - Please do not top post. Always write your message _below_ the included
 previous messages or _right_below_ to a part (of a previous message) you
 are
 actually refer to.

 - The examples you have provided are not minimal examples. Rather they
 are
 very complex documents. Try to reduce the example to as simple as
 possible
 removing unnecessary text, unnecessary options, and preamble settings
 but
 keeping those that cause the error.

 Back to the specific case:

 In the bib file you attached in your previous mail (MasterList.bib) the
 last entry (@BOOK{UNICEF2009) is incomplete and not correctly closed.
 There
 is a missing } at the end and I think address =  is not valid. The
 entry
 Cohen1998 is not correct. For me this caused compilation error and a
 very
 different output.

 I am attaching the corrected bib file and two pdfs, compiled with the
 original, and with the fixed bib file.

 In your current message the log file indicates that during compilation
 bibtex is used. This should be biber (backend is set to biber in the
 preamble). Maybe you have not set lyx to use biber instead of bibtex
 under
 Tools=Preferences=Output=LaTeX=Processor: biber. Make sure you have
 biber set there.

 Hi Csikos,
 ,
 Thanks for your helpful instructions, and for fixing my bibliography.
 Unfortunately, they do not solve my problems. Any time I select biber as
 the
 backend (in the preamble, in settings, in preferences, and in any
 combination), the PDF does not compile. With your fix, in both the beta
 and
 the stable version, I get two 'Undefined control sequence' errors, one
 for
 \sortlist and the other for \endsortlist.

 Hi Jason,

 my suggestion to get out of the problem you find yourself is the same
 as Cskos's: try to reduce the number of variables as much as possible
 in order to isolate the root of the problem.

 The first thing you need to find out is whether you have a working
 biblatex+biber installation.
 1. Make a new lyx file using one of the standard classes (book,
 article), add )only* your biblatex call to the preamble (the
 \usepackage and the \addbibresource commands), and put no more than
 one 

Re: Odd bibliography/citation formatting, ERT formatting

[Jason Siegel]

As far as I can tell, the biblatex problems were caused by the conflicting
TeXLive installations, as well as a conflict between biblatex and
polyglossia. The ERT problems were due to font-internal deficiencies
(lacking small caps) and a misreading of the package documentation.

--Jason


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:43 PM, stefano franchi
stefano.fran...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu
 wrote:
  On 03/05/2014 01:30 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 
  On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, stefano franchi
  stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jason F. Siegel 
 siege...@umail.iu.edu
  wrote:
 
  On 03/05/2014 12:36 AM, stefano franchi wrote:
 
  On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jason F. Siegel 
 siege...@umail.iu.edu
  wrote:
 
  On 03/03/2014 05:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
 
  Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu írta:
 
  I've attached the LaTeX and BiBTex logs in one text file. I've also
  attached a LyX MWE with the ERT that got left out of the first one, to
  show the formatting problems that were apparent in the PDF of the beta
  file.
 
  --Jason
 
 
  On 03/03/2014 12:58 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 
  On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Jason F. Siegel 
 siege...@umail.iu.edu
  wrote:
 
  Hi Csikos,
 
  I've provided a non-beta file with this e-mail. However, here the
  problem is
  different, as I stated in the original e-mail. In the non-beta, even
  with
  what I believe are the same settings (I'll admit I could be
 overlooking
  something), the references don't load at all. There is no formatting
 of
  the
  citations and no bibliography prints at the end. I would be happy to
  continue to use the stable version of LyX if it meant I could get my
  references and could format my ERT properly.
 
  I have attached the PDFs of the non beta and the PDF of the earlier
 LyX
  file
  and also the .bib file, as well, so that people can see what I'm
  seeing,
  even if it's not reproducing on their machine.
 
  Jason,
 
  you file works fine here on LyX 2.0.7 (see attached). Citation and
  bibliography are as you desire (I think).
 
  What do you see in the log file?
 
 
  Stefano
 
  --Jason
 
 
 
  On 03/03/2014 08:37 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:
 
  Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu írta:
 
  Hello all,
 
  I'm having some trouble getting my bibliography and in-line citations
  formatted properly. For some reason, the bibliography is sorting in
  the
  order the references are cited, rather than in alphabetical order.
  Moreover, inline citations that should be Author (YEAR) are Author
  (Title). I'm using biblatex 2.8 and biber 1.8, with natbib and
  plainnat
  style on Ubuntu 13.10 with Lyx 2.1.0dev (the references don't even
  load
  in 2.0.7 for some reason).
 
  In the same document, ERT with the ExPex package isn't formatting as
  expected. I'm trying to get bold italics , but \bf gives me bold
  upright
  characters and \textbf gives me one bold italicized character
  followed
  by italics. I'm also trying to get small caps, but it's just plain
  lowercase. Any thoughts or aid people can give would be most welcome.
  I've attached an he.
 
  Jason,
 
  I tried to open your MWE but it seems it is in lyx 2.1 format. I have
  only
  lyx 2.0 installed.
 
  Jason,
 
  I have some general comments.
 
  - Please do not top post. Always write your message _below_ the
 included
  previous messages or _right_below_ to a part (of a previous message)
 you
  are
  actually refer to.
 
  - The examples you have provided are not minimal examples. Rather they
  are
  very complex documents. Try to reduce the example to as simple as
  possible
  removing unnecessary text, unnecessary options, and preamble settings
  but
  keeping those that cause the error.
 
  Back to the specific case:
 
  In the bib file you attached in your previous mail (MasterList.bib)
 the
  last entry (@BOOK{UNICEF2009) is incomplete and not correctly closed.
  There
  is a missing } at the end and I think address =  is not valid. The
  entry
  Cohen1998 is not correct. For me this caused compilation error and a
  very
  different output.
 
  I am attaching the corrected bib file and two pdfs, compiled with the
  original, and with the fixed bib file.
 
  In your current message the log file indicates that during compilation
  bibtex is used. This should be biber (backend is set to biber in the
  preamble). Maybe you have not set lyx to use biber instead of bibtex
  under
  Tools=Preferences=Output=LaTeX=Processor: biber. Make sure you
 have
  biber set there.
 
  Hi Csikos,
  ,
  Thanks for your helpful instructions, and for fixing my bibliography.
  Unfortunately, they do not solve my problems. Any time I select biber
 as
  the
  backend (in the preamble, in settings, in preferences, and in any
  combination), the PDF does not compile. With your fix, in both the
 beta
  and
  the stable version, I get two 'Undefined control sequence' errors, one
  for
  \sortlist and 

Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

Hi,

I came across error while trying to install LyX 2.0.7 in Windows 7 64-bit
(actually I have tried in many computers with the same error).  I'm using
the setup called LyX-2.0.7-Bundle-1.exe downloaded from LyX official
website.  As to Windows, to be exact, I have tried Windows 7 Professional 
Enterprise SP1 64-bit but I don't think the *editions* and *SP1* parts are
relevant.  I think the problem would still happen in other 64-bit Windows
O/S, eg XP, Vista, etc.

The error I got are shown in the attached image: the upper dialog appeared
first.  But almost immediately, it's grayed out and the lower dialog
appeared and LyX installation simply was aborted and failed.  LyX setup
then tried to roll back but it got stuck on Remove folder: C:\Program
Files (x86)\LyX 2.0\ and I had to press the Cancel button.

I went a bit further and described here below:

I took basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe and run it in another Windows 7 64-bit and
it still crashed! I then downloaded basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe from
MiKTeX official website and tried it but that crashed as well!  Seems like
MiKTeX setup has very serious problem installing in 64bit O/S!

(Off-topic 1: Maybe it's some known bug like
http://sourceforge.net/p/miktex/bugs/2208/?)
(Off-topic 2: I have heard from some other friends of mine that MiKTeX is
actually a big piece of $h!t and their developers, being very arrogant,
didn't care about their installer not working in 64-bit O/S and I quite
agree with them after finding a lot of mails in their mailing-list which
are never answered!)

But I found out that if I run basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe the second time
with the option Reinstall using recommended settings (which is *only*
available when the setup is run outside LyX) after deleting C:\Program
Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9 folder, the installation went through the end!

Then at this point, if I used LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe instead, it's
fine.  So, it might be nice to warn 64 bit O/S users to download the
LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe on the download page and give them a little bit
help on installing MiKTeX.

Hope this helps.
attachment: install-in-win7-64bit-error.png

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[Denis Navas Vega]

El 2014-03-06 02:39 p.m., STF escribió:

Hi,

I came across error while trying to install LyX 2.0.7 in Windows 7
64-bit (actually I have tried in many computers with the same error).
I'm using the setup called LyX-2.0.7-Bundle-1.exe downloaded from LyX
official website.  As to Windows, to be exact, I have tried Windows 7
Professional  Enterprise SP1 64-bit but I don't think the *editions*
and *SP1* parts are relevant.  I think the problem would still happen in
other 64-bit Windows O/S, eg XP, Vista, etc.

The error I got are shown in the attached image: the upper dialog
appeared first.  But almost immediately, it's grayed out and the lower
dialog appeared and LyX installation simply was aborted and failed.  LyX
setup then tried to roll back but it got stuck on Remove folder:
C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.0\ and I had to press the Cancel button.

I went a bit further and described here below:

I took basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe and run it in another Windows 7 64-bit
and it still crashed! I then downloaded basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe
from MiKTeX official website and tried it but that crashed as well!
Seems like MiKTeX setup has very serious problem installing in 64bit O/S!

(Off-topic 1: Maybe it's some known bug like
http://sourceforge.net/p/miktex/bugs/2208/?)
(Off-topic 2: I have heard from some other friends of mine that MiKTeX
is actually a big piece of $h!t and their developers, being very
arrogant, didn't care about their installer not working in 64-bit O/S
and I quite agree with them after finding a lot of mails in their
mailing-list which are never answered!)

But I found out that if I run basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe the second time
with the option Reinstall using recommended settings (which is *only*
available when the setup is run outside LyX) after deleting C:\Program
Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9 folder, the installation went through the end!

Then at this point, if I used LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe instead, it's
fine.  So, it might be nice to warn 64 bit O/S users to download the
LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe on the download page and give them a little
bit help on installing MiKTeX.

Hope this helps.



That's a problem that I have suffered in the past with different 
programs, after windows actualizations.  This is a windows problem.

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[aparsloe]

On 7/03/2014 11:51 a.m., Denis Navas Vega wrote:

El 2014-03-06 02:39 p.m., STF escribió:

Hi,

I came across error while trying to install LyX 2.0.7 in Windows 7
64-bit (actually I have tried in many computers with the same error).
I'm using the setup called LyX-2.0.7-Bundle-1.exe downloaded from LyX
official website.  As to Windows, to be exact, I have tried Windows 7
Professional  Enterprise SP1 64-bit but I don't think the *editions*
and *SP1* parts are relevant.  I think the problem would still happen in
other 64-bit Windows O/S, eg XP, Vista, etc.

The error I got are shown in the attached image: the upper dialog
appeared first.  But almost immediately, it's grayed out and the lower
dialog appeared and LyX installation simply was aborted and failed.  LyX
setup then tried to roll back but it got stuck on Remove folder:
C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.0\ and I had to press the Cancel button.

I went a bit further and described here below:

I took basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe and run it in another Windows 7 64-bit
and it still crashed! I then downloaded basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe
from MiKTeX official website and tried it but that crashed as well!
Seems like MiKTeX setup has very serious problem installing in 64bit 
O/S!


(Off-topic 1: Maybe it's some known bug like
http://sourceforge.net/p/miktex/bugs/2208/?)
(Off-topic 2: I have heard from some other friends of mine that MiKTeX
is actually a big piece of $h!t and their developers, being very
arrogant, didn't care about their installer not working in 64-bit O/S
and I quite agree with them after finding a lot of mails in their
mailing-list which are never answered!)

But I found out that if I run basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe the second time
with the option Reinstall using recommended settings (which is *only*
available when the setup is run outside LyX) after deleting C:\Program
Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9 folder, the installation went through the end!

Then at this point, if I used LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe instead, it's
fine.  So, it might be nice to warn 64 bit O/S users to download the
LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe on the download page and give them a little
bit help on installing MiKTeX.

Hope this helps.



That's a problem that I have suffered in the past with different 
programs, after windows actualizations.  This is a windows problem.
I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX 
first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 
64-bit version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer 
without problems, but discovered that biber was missing from that distro 
-- evidently the 64-bit distro is still experimental -- so I went back 
to the 32-bit MiKTeX 2.9 (the Basic distribution of 160 MB or so, and 
then added the packages detailed under LaTeX Configuration in LyX's Help 
menu).  It too installed without problems.


As for MiKTeX being a  big piece of $h!t, I haven't had problems with 
it (and it certainly doesn't give me the kind of conflict between 
package managers mentioned in a recent thread on this list that users of 
TeXLive on Ubuntu systems face).


Andrew

test, please ignore

[stefano franchi]

test, please ignore

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

confusion about IEEEtran vs. ieee bib

[Neal Becker]

I'm using ieeetr bib option in lyx, which uses ieeetr bib style.

I'm using texlive on fedora 20.  I also have a package:

rpm -ql  texlive-biblatex-ieee
/usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee
/usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee/lppl1.3.txt
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.bbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.cbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.bbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.cbx

What is this, how would lyx use it, and should I care?

Re: confusion about IEEEtran vs. ieee bib

[stefano franchi]

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm using ieeetr bib option in lyx, which uses ieeetr bib style.

 I'm using texlive on fedora 20.  I also have a package:

 rpm -ql  texlive-biblatex-ieee
 /usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee
 /usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee/lppl1.3.txt
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.bbx
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.cbx
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.bbx
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.cbx


 What is this,

Well, these are two biblatex styles for ieee (cbx files are the
citation styles, and .bbx files are the style for the references
section). If you use standard bibtex you can safely ignore them. You
probably have one or more  .bst files in your installation (perhaps
ieeetr.bst) that governs formatting under bibtex. Should you decide to
use biblatex instead, you would probably use the styles you listed.



 how would lyx use it

See the wiki page on biblatex on how to use it from within lyx.
Support is currently only partial. That means yo uneed to load
bibalatex (with the required styles) and the .bib file  manually from
the preamble. You can insert citation directly with LyX interface,
unless you want to do fancy things.

 and should I care?

I'm afraid that's up to you to decide...;-)


Cheers,

Stefano


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__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Odd bibliography/citation formatting, ERT formatting

[Jason F. Siegel]

On 03/05/2014 01:30 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, stefano franchi
stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu wrote:

On 03/05/2014 12:36 AM, stefano franchi wrote:

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu
wrote:

On 03/03/2014 05:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:

Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu írta:

I've attached the LaTeX and BiBTex logs in one text file. I've also
attached a LyX MWE with the ERT that got left out of the first one, to
show the formatting problems that were apparent in the PDF of the beta
file.

--Jason


On 03/03/2014 12:58 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu
wrote:

Hi Csikos,

I've provided a non-beta file with this e-mail. However, here the
problem is
different, as I stated in the original e-mail. In the non-beta, even
with
what I believe are the same settings (I'll admit I could be overlooking
something), the references don't load at all. There is no formatting of
the
citations and no bibliography prints at the end. I would be happy to
continue to use the stable version of LyX if it meant I could get my
references and could format my ERT properly.

I have attached the PDFs of the non beta and the PDF of the earlier LyX
file
and also the .bib file, as well, so that people can see what I'm
seeing,
even if it's not reproducing on their machine.

Jason,

you file works fine here on LyX 2.0.7 (see attached). Citation and
bibliography are as you desire (I think).

What do you see in the log file?


Stefano

--Jason



On 03/03/2014 08:37 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:

Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu írta:

Hello all,

I'm having some trouble getting my bibliography and in-line citations
formatted properly. For some reason, the bibliography is sorting in
the
order the references are cited, rather than in alphabetical order.
Moreover, inline citations that should be Author (YEAR) are Author
(Title). I'm using biblatex 2.8 and biber 1.8, with natbib and
plainnat
style on Ubuntu 13.10 with Lyx 2.1.0dev (the references don't even
load
in 2.0.7 for some reason).

In the same document, ERT with the ExPex package isn't formatting as
expected. I'm trying to get bold italics , but \bf gives me bold
upright
characters and \textbf gives me one bold italicized character
followed
by italics. I'm also trying to get small caps, but it's just plain
lowercase. Any thoughts or aid people can give would be most welcome.
I've attached an he.

Jason,

I tried to open your MWE but it seems it is in lyx 2.1 format. I have
only
lyx 2.0 installed.

Jason,

I have some general comments.

- Please do not top post. Always write your message _below_ the included
previous messages or _right_below_ to a part (of a previous message) you are
actually refer to.

- The examples you have provided are not minimal examples. Rather they are
very complex documents. Try to reduce the example to as simple as possible
removing unnecessary text, unnecessary options, and preamble settings but
keeping those that cause the error.

Back to the specific case:

In the bib file you attached in your previous mail (MasterList.bib) the
last entry (@BOOK{UNICEF2009) is incomplete and not correctly closed.  There
is a missing } at the end and I think address =  is not valid. The entry
Cohen1998 is not correct. For me this caused compilation error and a very
different output.

I am attaching the corrected bib file and two pdfs, compiled with the
original, and with the fixed bib file.

In your current message the log file indicates that during compilation
bibtex is used. This should be biber (backend is set to biber in the
preamble). Maybe you have not set lyx to use biber instead of bibtex under
Tools=Preferences=Output=LaTeX=Processor: biber. Make sure you have
biber set there.

Hi Csikos,
,
Thanks for your helpful instructions, and for fixing my bibliography.
Unfortunately, they do not solve my problems. Any time I select biber as the
backend (in the preamble, in settings, in preferences, and in any
combination), the PDF does not compile. With your fix, in both the beta and
the stable version, I get two 'Undefined control sequence' errors, one for
\sortlist and the other for \endsortlist.

Hi Jason,

my suggestion to get out of the problem you find yourself is the same
as Cskos's: try to reduce the number of variables as much as possible
in order to isolate the root of the problem.

The first thing you need to find out is whether you have a working
biblatex+biber installation.
1. Make a new lyx file using one of the standard classes (book,
article), add )only* your biblatex call to the preamble (the
\usepackage and the \addbibresource commands), and put no more than
one word of text in the file itself, plus a couple of references at
most. See what happens.

If biblatex/biber work in the simplest possible scenario, you can
start to work on your (very complex) 

Re: Odd bibliography/citation formatting, ERT formatting

[stefano franchi]

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu wrote:
 On 03/05/2014 01:30 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, stefano franchi
 stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu
 wrote:

 On 03/05/2014 12:36 AM, stefano franchi wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu
 wrote:

 On 03/03/2014 05:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:

 Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu írta:

 I've attached the LaTeX and BiBTex logs in one text file. I've also
 attached a LyX MWE with the ERT that got left out of the first one, to
 show the formatting problems that were apparent in the PDF of the beta
 file.

 --Jason


 On 03/03/2014 12:58 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu
 wrote:

 Hi Csikos,

 I've provided a non-beta file with this e-mail. However, here the
 problem is
 different, as I stated in the original e-mail. In the non-beta, even
 with
 what I believe are the same settings (I'll admit I could be overlooking
 something), the references don't load at all. There is no formatting of
 the
 citations and no bibliography prints at the end. I would be happy to
 continue to use the stable version of LyX if it meant I could get my
 references and could format my ERT properly.

 I have attached the PDFs of the non beta and the PDF of the earlier LyX
 file
 and also the .bib file, as well, so that people can see what I'm
 seeing,
 even if it's not reproducing on their machine.

 Jason,

 you file works fine here on LyX 2.0.7 (see attached). Citation and
 bibliography are as you desire (I think).

 What do you see in the log file?


 Stefano

 --Jason



 On 03/03/2014 08:37 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:

 Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu írta:

 Hello all,

 I'm having some trouble getting my bibliography and in-line citations
 formatted properly. For some reason, the bibliography is sorting in
 the
 order the references are cited, rather than in alphabetical order.
 Moreover, inline citations that should be Author (YEAR) are Author
 (Title). I'm using biblatex 2.8 and biber 1.8, with natbib and
 plainnat
 style on Ubuntu 13.10 with Lyx 2.1.0dev (the references don't even
 load
 in 2.0.7 for some reason).

 In the same document, ERT with the ExPex package isn't formatting as
 expected. I'm trying to get bold italics , but \bf gives me bold
 upright
 characters and \textbf gives me one bold italicized character
 followed
 by italics. I'm also trying to get small caps, but it's just plain
 lowercase. Any thoughts or aid people can give would be most welcome.
 I've attached an he.

 Jason,

 I tried to open your MWE but it seems it is in lyx 2.1 format. I have
 only
 lyx 2.0 installed.

 Jason,

 I have some general comments.

 - Please do not top post. Always write your message _below_ the included
 previous messages or _right_below_ to a part (of a previous message) you
 are
 actually refer to.

 - The examples you have provided are not minimal examples. Rather they
 are
 very complex documents. Try to reduce the example to as simple as
 possible
 removing unnecessary text, unnecessary options, and preamble settings
 but
 keeping those that cause the error.

 Back to the specific case:

 In the bib file you attached in your previous mail (MasterList.bib) the
 last entry (@BOOK{UNICEF2009) is incomplete and not correctly closed.
 There
 is a missing } at the end and I think address =  is not valid. The
 entry
 Cohen1998 is not correct. For me this caused compilation error and a
 very
 different output.

 I am attaching the corrected bib file and two pdfs, compiled with the
 original, and with the fixed bib file.

 In your current message the log file indicates that during compilation
 bibtex is used. This should be biber (backend is set to biber in the
 preamble). Maybe you have not set lyx to use biber instead of bibtex
 under
 Tools=Preferences=Output=LaTeX=Processor: biber. Make sure you have
 biber set there.

 Hi Csikos,
 ,
 Thanks for your helpful instructions, and for fixing my bibliography.
 Unfortunately, they do not solve my problems. Any time I select biber as
 the
 backend (in the preamble, in settings, in preferences, and in any
 combination), the PDF does not compile. With your fix, in both the beta
 and
 the stable version, I get two 'Undefined control sequence' errors, one
 for
 \sortlist and the other for \endsortlist.

 Hi Jason,

 my suggestion to get out of the problem you find yourself is the same
 as Cskos's: try to reduce the number of variables as much as possible
 in order to isolate the root of the problem.

 The first thing you need to find out is whether you have a working
 biblatex+biber installation.
 1. Make a new lyx file using one of the standard classes (book,
 article), add )only* your biblatex call to the preamble (the
 \usepackage and the \addbibresource commands), and put no more than
 one 

Re: Odd bibliography/citation formatting, ERT formatting

[Jason Siegel]

As far as I can tell, the biblatex problems were caused by the conflicting
TeXLive installations, as well as a conflict between biblatex and
polyglossia. The ERT problems were due to font-internal deficiencies
(lacking small caps) and a misreading of the package documentation.

--Jason


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:43 PM, stefano franchi
stefano.fran...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu
 wrote:
  On 03/05/2014 01:30 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 
  On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, stefano franchi
  stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jason F. Siegel 
 siege...@umail.iu.edu
  wrote:
 
  On 03/05/2014 12:36 AM, stefano franchi wrote:
 
  On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jason F. Siegel 
 siege...@umail.iu.edu
  wrote:
 
  On 03/03/2014 05:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
 
  Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu írta:
 
  I've attached the LaTeX and BiBTex logs in one text file. I've also
  attached a LyX MWE with the ERT that got left out of the first one, to
  show the formatting problems that were apparent in the PDF of the beta
  file.
 
  --Jason
 
 
  On 03/03/2014 12:58 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 
  On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Jason F. Siegel 
 siege...@umail.iu.edu
  wrote:
 
  Hi Csikos,
 
  I've provided a non-beta file with this e-mail. However, here the
  problem is
  different, as I stated in the original e-mail. In the non-beta, even
  with
  what I believe are the same settings (I'll admit I could be
 overlooking
  something), the references don't load at all. There is no formatting
 of
  the
  citations and no bibliography prints at the end. I would be happy to
  continue to use the stable version of LyX if it meant I could get my
  references and could format my ERT properly.
 
  I have attached the PDFs of the non beta and the PDF of the earlier
 LyX
  file
  and also the .bib file, as well, so that people can see what I'm
  seeing,
  even if it's not reproducing on their machine.
 
  Jason,
 
  you file works fine here on LyX 2.0.7 (see attached). Citation and
  bibliography are as you desire (I think).
 
  What do you see in the log file?
 
 
  Stefano
 
  --Jason
 
 
 
  On 03/03/2014 08:37 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:
 
  Jason F. Siegel siege...@umail.iu.edu írta:
 
  Hello all,
 
  I'm having some trouble getting my bibliography and in-line citations
  formatted properly. For some reason, the bibliography is sorting in
  the
  order the references are cited, rather than in alphabetical order.
  Moreover, inline citations that should be Author (YEAR) are Author
  (Title). I'm using biblatex 2.8 and biber 1.8, with natbib and
  plainnat
  style on Ubuntu 13.10 with Lyx 2.1.0dev (the references don't even
  load
  in 2.0.7 for some reason).
 
  In the same document, ERT with the ExPex package isn't formatting as
  expected. I'm trying to get bold italics , but \bf gives me bold
  upright
  characters and \textbf gives me one bold italicized character
  followed
  by italics. I'm also trying to get small caps, but it's just plain
  lowercase. Any thoughts or aid people can give would be most welcome.
  I've attached an he.
 
  Jason,
 
  I tried to open your MWE but it seems it is in lyx 2.1 format. I have
  only
  lyx 2.0 installed.
 
  Jason,
 
  I have some general comments.
 
  - Please do not top post. Always write your message _below_ the
 included
  previous messages or _right_below_ to a part (of a previous message)
 you
  are
  actually refer to.
 
  - The examples you have provided are not minimal examples. Rather they
  are
  very complex documents. Try to reduce the example to as simple as
  possible
  removing unnecessary text, unnecessary options, and preamble settings
  but
  keeping those that cause the error.
 
  Back to the specific case:
 
  In the bib file you attached in your previous mail (MasterList.bib)
 the
  last entry (@BOOK{UNICEF2009) is incomplete and not correctly closed.
  There
  is a missing } at the end and I think address =  is not valid. The
  entry
  Cohen1998 is not correct. For me this caused compilation error and a
  very
  different output.
 
  I am attaching the corrected bib file and two pdfs, compiled with the
  original, and with the fixed bib file.
 
  In your current message the log file indicates that during compilation
  bibtex is used. This should be biber (backend is set to biber in the
  preamble). Maybe you have not set lyx to use biber instead of bibtex
  under
  Tools=Preferences=Output=LaTeX=Processor: biber. Make sure you
 have
  biber set there.
 
  Hi Csikos,
  ,
  Thanks for your helpful instructions, and for fixing my bibliography.
  Unfortunately, they do not solve my problems. Any time I select biber
 as
  the
  backend (in the preamble, in settings, in preferences, and in any
  combination), the PDF does not compile. With your fix, in both the
 beta
  and
  the stable version, I get two 'Undefined control sequence' errors, one
  for
  \sortlist and 

Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

Hi,

I came across error while trying to install LyX 2.0.7 in Windows 7 64-bit
(actually I have tried in many computers with the same error).  I'm using
the setup called LyX-2.0.7-Bundle-1.exe downloaded from LyX official
website.  As to Windows, to be exact, I have tried Windows 7 Professional 
Enterprise SP1 64-bit but I don't think the *editions* and *SP1* parts are
relevant.  I think the problem would still happen in other 64-bit Windows
O/S, eg XP, Vista, etc.

The error I got are shown in the attached image: the upper dialog appeared
first.  But almost immediately, it's grayed out and the lower dialog
appeared and LyX installation simply was aborted and failed.  LyX setup
then tried to roll back but it got stuck on Remove folder: C:\Program
Files (x86)\LyX 2.0\ and I had to press the Cancel button.

I went a bit further and described here below:

I took basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe and run it in another Windows 7 64-bit and
it still crashed! I then downloaded basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe from
MiKTeX official website and tried it but that crashed as well!  Seems like
MiKTeX setup has very serious problem installing in 64bit O/S!

(Off-topic 1: Maybe it's some known bug like
http://sourceforge.net/p/miktex/bugs/2208/?)
(Off-topic 2: I have heard from some other friends of mine that MiKTeX is
actually a big piece of $h!t and their developers, being very arrogant,
didn't care about their installer not working in 64-bit O/S and I quite
agree with them after finding a lot of mails in their mailing-list which
are never answered!)

But I found out that if I run basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe the second time
with the option Reinstall using recommended settings (which is *only*
available when the setup is run outside LyX) after deleting C:\Program
Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9 folder, the installation went through the end!

Then at this point, if I used LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe instead, it's
fine.  So, it might be nice to warn 64 bit O/S users to download the
LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe on the download page and give them a little bit
help on installing MiKTeX.

Hope this helps.
attachment: install-in-win7-64bit-error.png

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[Denis Navas Vega]

El 2014-03-06 02:39 p.m., STF escribió:

Hi,

I came across error while trying to install LyX 2.0.7 in Windows 7
64-bit (actually I have tried in many computers with the same error).
I'm using the setup called LyX-2.0.7-Bundle-1.exe downloaded from LyX
official website.  As to Windows, to be exact, I have tried Windows 7
Professional  Enterprise SP1 64-bit but I don't think the *editions*
and *SP1* parts are relevant.  I think the problem would still happen in
other 64-bit Windows O/S, eg XP, Vista, etc.

The error I got are shown in the attached image: the upper dialog
appeared first.  But almost immediately, it's grayed out and the lower
dialog appeared and LyX installation simply was aborted and failed.  LyX
setup then tried to roll back but it got stuck on Remove folder:
C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.0\ and I had to press the Cancel button.

I went a bit further and described here below:

I took basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe and run it in another Windows 7 64-bit
and it still crashed! I then downloaded basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe
from MiKTeX official website and tried it but that crashed as well!
Seems like MiKTeX setup has very serious problem installing in 64bit O/S!

(Off-topic 1: Maybe it's some known bug like
http://sourceforge.net/p/miktex/bugs/2208/?)
(Off-topic 2: I have heard from some other friends of mine that MiKTeX
is actually a big piece of $h!t and their developers, being very
arrogant, didn't care about their installer not working in 64-bit O/S
and I quite agree with them after finding a lot of mails in their
mailing-list which are never answered!)

But I found out that if I run basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe the second time
with the option Reinstall using recommended settings (which is *only*
available when the setup is run outside LyX) after deleting C:\Program
Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9 folder, the installation went through the end!

Then at this point, if I used LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe instead, it's
fine.  So, it might be nice to warn 64 bit O/S users to download the
LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe on the download page and give them a little
bit help on installing MiKTeX.

Hope this helps.



That's a problem that I have suffered in the past with different 
programs, after windows actualizations.  This is a windows problem.

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[aparsloe]

On 7/03/2014 11:51 a.m., Denis Navas Vega wrote:

El 2014-03-06 02:39 p.m., STF escribió:

Hi,

I came across error while trying to install LyX 2.0.7 in Windows 7
64-bit (actually I have tried in many computers with the same error).
I'm using the setup called LyX-2.0.7-Bundle-1.exe downloaded from LyX
official website.  As to Windows, to be exact, I have tried Windows 7
Professional  Enterprise SP1 64-bit but I don't think the *editions*
and *SP1* parts are relevant.  I think the problem would still happen in
other 64-bit Windows O/S, eg XP, Vista, etc.

The error I got are shown in the attached image: the upper dialog
appeared first.  But almost immediately, it's grayed out and the lower
dialog appeared and LyX installation simply was aborted and failed.  LyX
setup then tried to roll back but it got stuck on Remove folder:
C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.0\ and I had to press the Cancel button.

I went a bit further and described here below:

I took basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe and run it in another Windows 7 64-bit
and it still crashed! I then downloaded basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe
from MiKTeX official website and tried it but that crashed as well!
Seems like MiKTeX setup has very serious problem installing in 64bit 
O/S!


(Off-topic 1: Maybe it's some known bug like
http://sourceforge.net/p/miktex/bugs/2208/?)
(Off-topic 2: I have heard from some other friends of mine that MiKTeX
is actually a big piece of $h!t and their developers, being very
arrogant, didn't care about their installer not working in 64-bit O/S
and I quite agree with them after finding a lot of mails in their
mailing-list which are never answered!)

But I found out that if I run basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe the second time
with the option Reinstall using recommended settings (which is *only*
available when the setup is run outside LyX) after deleting C:\Program
Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9 folder, the installation went through the end!

Then at this point, if I used LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe instead, it's
fine.  So, it might be nice to warn 64 bit O/S users to download the
LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe on the download page and give them a little
bit help on installing MiKTeX.

Hope this helps.



That's a problem that I have suffered in the past with different 
programs, after windows actualizations.  This is a windows problem.
I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX 
first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 
64-bit version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer 
without problems, but discovered that biber was missing from that distro 
-- evidently the 64-bit distro is still experimental -- so I went back 
to the 32-bit MiKTeX 2.9 (the Basic distribution of 160 MB or so, and 
then added the packages detailed under LaTeX Configuration in LyX's Help 
menu).  It too installed without problems.


As for MiKTeX being a  big piece of $h!t, I haven't had problems with 
it (and it certainly doesn't give me the kind of conflict between 
package managers mentioned in a recent thread on this list that users of 
TeXLive on Ubuntu systems face).


Andrew

test, please ignore

[stefano franchi]

test, please ignore

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

confusion about IEEEtran vs. ieee bib

[Neal Becker]

I'm using ieeetr bib option in lyx, which uses ieeetr bib style.

I'm using texlive on fedora 20.  I also have a package:

rpm -ql  texlive-biblatex-ieee
/usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee
/usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee/lppl1.3.txt
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.bbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.cbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.bbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.cbx

What is this, how would lyx use it, and should I care?

Re: confusion about IEEEtran vs. ieee bib

[stefano franchi]

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:
> I'm using ieeetr bib option in lyx, which uses ieeetr bib style.
>
> I'm using texlive on fedora 20.  I also have a package:
>
> rpm -ql  texlive-biblatex-ieee
> /usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee
> /usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee/lppl1.3.txt
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.bbx
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.cbx
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.bbx
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.cbx
>

> What is this,

Well, these are two biblatex styles for ieee (cbx files are the
citation styles, and .bbx files are the style for the references
section). If you use standard bibtex you can safely ignore them. You
probably have one or more  .bst files in your installation (perhaps
ieeetr.bst) that governs formatting under bibtex. Should you decide to
use biblatex instead, you would probably use the styles you listed.



> how would lyx use it

See the wiki page on biblatex on how to use it from within lyx.
Support is currently only partial. That means yo uneed to load
bibalatex (with the required styles) and the .bib file  manually from
the preamble. You can insert citation directly with LyX interface,
unless you want to do fancy things.

> and should I care?

I'm afraid that's up to you to decide...;-)


Cheers,

Stefano


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Re: Odd bibliography/citation formatting, ERT formatting

[Jason F. Siegel]

On 03/05/2014 01:30 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, stefano franchi
 wrote:

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jason F. Siegel  wrote:

On 03/05/2014 12:36 AM, stefano franchi wrote:

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jason F. Siegel 
wrote:

On 03/03/2014 05:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:

"Jason F. Siegel"  írta:

I've attached the LaTeX and BiBTex logs in one text file. I've also
attached a LyX MWE with the ERT that got left out of the first one, to
show the formatting problems that were apparent in the PDF of the beta
file.

--Jason


On 03/03/2014 12:58 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Jason F. Siegel 
wrote:

Hi Csikos,

I've provided a non-beta file with this e-mail. However, here the
problem is
different, as I stated in the original e-mail. In the non-beta, even
with
what I believe are the same settings (I'll admit I could be overlooking
something), the references don't load at all. There is no formatting of
the
citations and no bibliography prints at the end. I would be happy to
continue to use the stable version of LyX if it meant I could get my
references and could format my ERT properly.

I have attached the PDFs of the non beta and the PDF of the earlier LyX
file
and also the .bib file, as well, so that people can see what I'm
seeing,
even if it's not reproducing on their machine.

Jason,

you file works fine here on LyX 2.0.7 (see attached). Citation and
bibliography are as you desire (I think).

What do you see in the log file?


Stefano

--Jason



On 03/03/2014 08:37 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:

"Jason F. Siegel"  írta:

Hello all,

I'm having some trouble getting my bibliography and in-line citations
formatted properly. For some reason, the bibliography is sorting in
the
order the references are cited, rather than in alphabetical order.
Moreover, inline citations that should be Author (YEAR) are Author
(Title). I'm using biblatex 2.8 and biber 1.8, with natbib and
plainnat
style on Ubuntu 13.10 with Lyx 2.1.0dev (the references don't even
load
in 2.0.7 for some reason).

In the same document, ERT with the ExPex package isn't formatting as
expected. I'm trying to get bold italics , but \bf gives me bold
upright
characters and \textbf gives me one bold italicized character
followed
by italics. I'm also trying to get small caps, but it's just plain
lowercase. Any thoughts or aid people can give would be most welcome.
I've attached an he.

Jason,

I tried to open your MWE but it seems it is in lyx 2.1 format. I have
only
lyx 2.0 installed.

Jason,

I have some general comments.

- Please do not top post. Always write your message _below_ the included
previous messages or _right_below_ to a part (of a previous message) you are
actually refer to.

- The examples you have provided are not minimal examples. Rather they are
very complex documents. Try to reduce the example to as simple as possible
removing unnecessary text, unnecessary options, and preamble settings but
keeping those that cause the error.

Back to the specific case:

In the bib file you attached in your previous mail (MasterList.bib) the
last entry (@BOOK{UNICEF2009) is incomplete and not correctly closed.  There
is a missing "}" at the end and I think "address = " is not valid. The entry
"Cohen1998" is not correct. For me this caused compilation error and a very
different output.

I am attaching the corrected bib file and two pdfs, compiled with the
original, and with the fixed bib file.

In your current message the log file indicates that during compilation
bibtex is used. This should be biber (backend is set to biber in the
preamble). Maybe you have not set lyx to use biber instead of bibtex under
Tools=>Preferences=>Output=>LaTeX=>Processor: biber. Make sure you have
biber set there.

Hi Csikos,
,
Thanks for your helpful instructions, and for fixing my bibliography.
Unfortunately, they do not solve my problems. Any time I select biber as the
backend (in the preamble, in settings, in preferences, and in any
combination), the PDF does not compile. With your fix, in both the beta and
the stable version, I get two 'Undefined control sequence' errors, one for
\sortlist and the other for \endsortlist.

Hi Jason,

my suggestion to get out of the problem you find yourself is the same
as Cskos's: try to reduce the number of variables as much as possible
in order to isolate the root of the problem.

The first thing you need to find out is whether you have a working
biblatex+biber installation.
1. Make a new lyx file using one of the standard classes (book,
article), add )only* your biblatex call to the preamble (the
\usepackage and the \addbibresource commands), and put no more than
one word of text in the file itself, plus a couple of references at
most. See what happens.

If biblatex/biber work in the simplest possible scenario, you can
start to work 

Re: Odd bibliography/citation formatting, ERT formatting

[stefano franchi]

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jason F. Siegel  wrote:
> On 03/05/2014 01:30 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, stefano franchi
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jason F. Siegel 
>>> wrote:

 On 03/05/2014 12:36 AM, stefano franchi wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jason F. Siegel 
 wrote:

 On 03/03/2014 05:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:

 "Jason F. Siegel"  írta:

 I've attached the LaTeX and BiBTex logs in one text file. I've also
 attached a LyX MWE with the ERT that got left out of the first one, to
 show the formatting problems that were apparent in the PDF of the beta
 file.

 --Jason


 On 03/03/2014 12:58 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Jason F. Siegel 
 wrote:

 Hi Csikos,

 I've provided a non-beta file with this e-mail. However, here the
 problem is
 different, as I stated in the original e-mail. In the non-beta, even
 with
 what I believe are the same settings (I'll admit I could be overlooking
 something), the references don't load at all. There is no formatting of
 the
 citations and no bibliography prints at the end. I would be happy to
 continue to use the stable version of LyX if it meant I could get my
 references and could format my ERT properly.

 I have attached the PDFs of the non beta and the PDF of the earlier LyX
 file
 and also the .bib file, as well, so that people can see what I'm
 seeing,
 even if it's not reproducing on their machine.

 Jason,

 you file works fine here on LyX 2.0.7 (see attached). Citation and
 bibliography are as you desire (I think).

 What do you see in the log file?


 Stefano

 --Jason



 On 03/03/2014 08:37 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:

 "Jason F. Siegel"  írta:

 Hello all,

 I'm having some trouble getting my bibliography and in-line citations
 formatted properly. For some reason, the bibliography is sorting in
 the
 order the references are cited, rather than in alphabetical order.
 Moreover, inline citations that should be Author (YEAR) are Author
 (Title). I'm using biblatex 2.8 and biber 1.8, with natbib and
 plainnat
 style on Ubuntu 13.10 with Lyx 2.1.0dev (the references don't even
 load
 in 2.0.7 for some reason).

 In the same document, ERT with the ExPex package isn't formatting as
 expected. I'm trying to get bold italics , but \bf gives me bold
 upright
 characters and \textbf gives me one bold italicized character
 followed
 by italics. I'm also trying to get small caps, but it's just plain
 lowercase. Any thoughts or aid people can give would be most welcome.
 I've attached an he.

 Jason,

 I tried to open your MWE but it seems it is in lyx 2.1 format. I have
 only
 lyx 2.0 installed.

 Jason,

 I have some general comments.

 - Please do not top post. Always write your message _below_ the included
 previous messages or _right_below_ to a part (of a previous message) you
 are
 actually refer to.

 - The examples you have provided are not minimal examples. Rather they
 are
 very complex documents. Try to reduce the example to as simple as
 possible
 removing unnecessary text, unnecessary options, and preamble settings
 but
 keeping those that cause the error.

 Back to the specific case:

 In the bib file you attached in your previous mail (MasterList.bib) the
 last entry (@BOOK{UNICEF2009) is incomplete and not correctly closed.
 There
 is a missing "}" at the end and I think "address = " is not valid. The
 entry
 "Cohen1998" is not correct. For me this caused compilation error and a
 very
 different output.

 I am attaching the corrected bib file and two pdfs, compiled with the
 original, and with the fixed bib file.

 In your current message the log file indicates that during compilation
 bibtex is used. This should be biber (backend is set to biber in the
 preamble). Maybe you have not set lyx to use biber instead of bibtex
 under
 Tools=>Preferences=>Output=>LaTeX=>Processor: biber. Make sure you have
 biber set there.

 Hi Csikos,
 ,
 Thanks for your helpful instructions, and for fixing my bibliography.
 Unfortunately, they do not solve my problems. Any time I select biber as
 the
 backend (in the preamble, in settings, in preferences, and in any
 combination), the PDF does not compile. With your fix, in both the beta
 and
 the stable version, I get two 

Re: Odd bibliography/citation formatting, ERT formatting

[Jason Siegel]

As far as I can tell, the biblatex problems were caused by the conflicting
TeXLive installations, as well as a conflict between biblatex and
polyglossia. The ERT problems were due to font-internal deficiencies
(lacking small caps) and a misreading of the package documentation.

--Jason


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:43 PM, stefano franchi
wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jason F. Siegel 
> wrote:
> > On 03/05/2014 01:30 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, stefano franchi
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jason F. Siegel <
> siege...@umail.iu.edu>
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  On 03/05/2014 12:36 AM, stefano franchi wrote:
> 
>  On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jason F. Siegel <
> siege...@umail.iu.edu>
>  wrote:
> 
>  On 03/03/2014 05:07 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
> 
>  "Jason F. Siegel"  írta:
> 
>  I've attached the LaTeX and BiBTex logs in one text file. I've also
>  attached a LyX MWE with the ERT that got left out of the first one, to
>  show the formatting problems that were apparent in the PDF of the beta
>  file.
> 
>  --Jason
> 
> 
>  On 03/03/2014 12:58 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
> 
>  On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Jason F. Siegel <
> siege...@umail.iu.edu>
>  wrote:
> 
>  Hi Csikos,
> 
>  I've provided a non-beta file with this e-mail. However, here the
>  problem is
>  different, as I stated in the original e-mail. In the non-beta, even
>  with
>  what I believe are the same settings (I'll admit I could be
> overlooking
>  something), the references don't load at all. There is no formatting
> of
>  the
>  citations and no bibliography prints at the end. I would be happy to
>  continue to use the stable version of LyX if it meant I could get my
>  references and could format my ERT properly.
> 
>  I have attached the PDFs of the non beta and the PDF of the earlier
> LyX
>  file
>  and also the .bib file, as well, so that people can see what I'm
>  seeing,
>  even if it's not reproducing on their machine.
> 
>  Jason,
> 
>  you file works fine here on LyX 2.0.7 (see attached). Citation and
>  bibliography are as you desire (I think).
> 
>  What do you see in the log file?
> 
> 
>  Stefano
> 
>  --Jason
> 
> 
> 
>  On 03/03/2014 08:37 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:
> 
>  "Jason F. Siegel"  írta:
> 
>  Hello all,
> 
>  I'm having some trouble getting my bibliography and in-line citations
>  formatted properly. For some reason, the bibliography is sorting in
>  the
>  order the references are cited, rather than in alphabetical order.
>  Moreover, inline citations that should be Author (YEAR) are Author
>  (Title). I'm using biblatex 2.8 and biber 1.8, with natbib and
>  plainnat
>  style on Ubuntu 13.10 with Lyx 2.1.0dev (the references don't even
>  load
>  in 2.0.7 for some reason).
> 
>  In the same document, ERT with the ExPex package isn't formatting as
>  expected. I'm trying to get bold italics , but \bf gives me bold
>  upright
>  characters and \textbf gives me one bold italicized character
>  followed
>  by italics. I'm also trying to get small caps, but it's just plain
>  lowercase. Any thoughts or aid people can give would be most welcome.
>  I've attached an he.
> 
>  Jason,
> 
>  I tried to open your MWE but it seems it is in lyx 2.1 format. I have
>  only
>  lyx 2.0 installed.
> 
>  Jason,
> 
>  I have some general comments.
> 
>  - Please do not top post. Always write your message _below_ the
> included
>  previous messages or _right_below_ to a part (of a previous message)
> you
>  are
>  actually refer to.
> 
>  - The examples you have provided are not minimal examples. Rather they
>  are
>  very complex documents. Try to reduce the example to as simple as
>  possible
>  removing unnecessary text, unnecessary options, and preamble settings
>  but
>  keeping those that cause the error.
> 
>  Back to the specific case:
> 
>  In the bib file you attached in your previous mail (MasterList.bib)
> the
>  last entry (@BOOK{UNICEF2009) is incomplete and not correctly closed.
>  There
>  is a missing "}" at the end and I think "address = " is not valid. The
>  entry
>  "Cohen1998" is not correct. For me this caused compilation error and a
>  very
>  different output.
> 
>  I am attaching the corrected bib file and two pdfs, compiled with the
>  original, and with the fixed bib file.
> 
>  In your current message the log file indicates that during 

Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

Hi,

I came across error while trying to install LyX 2.0.7 in Windows 7 64-bit
(actually I have tried in many computers with the same error).  I'm using
the setup called "LyX-2.0.7-Bundle-1.exe" downloaded from LyX official
website.  As to Windows, to be exact, I have tried Windows 7 Professional &
Enterprise SP1 64-bit but I don't think the *editions* and *SP1* parts are
relevant.  I think the problem would still happen in other 64-bit Windows
O/S, eg XP, Vista, etc.

The error I got are shown in the attached image: the upper dialog appeared
first.  But almost immediately, it's grayed out and the lower dialog
appeared and LyX installation simply was aborted and failed.  LyX setup
then tried to roll back but it got stuck on "Remove folder: C:\Program
Files (x86)\LyX 2.0\" and I had to press the Cancel button.

I went a bit further and described here below:

I took basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe and run it in another Windows 7 64-bit and
it still crashed! I then downloaded basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe from
MiKTeX official website and tried it but that crashed as well!  Seems like
MiKTeX setup has very serious problem installing in 64bit O/S!

(Off-topic 1: Maybe it's some known bug like
http://sourceforge.net/p/miktex/bugs/2208/?)
(Off-topic 2: I have heard from some other friends of mine that MiKTeX is
actually a big piece of $h!t and their developers, being very arrogant,
didn't care about their installer not working in 64-bit O/S and I quite
agree with them after finding a lot of mails in their mailing-list which
are never answered!)

But I found out that if I run basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe the second time
with the option "Reinstall using recommended settings" (which is *only*
available when the setup is run outside LyX) after deleting "C:\Program
Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9" folder, the installation went through the end!

Then at this point, if I used "LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe" instead, it's
fine.  So, it might be nice to warn 64 bit O/S users to download the
"LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe" on the download page and give them a little bit
help on installing MiKTeX.

Hope this helps.
<>

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[Denis Navas Vega]

El 2014-03-06 02:39 p.m., STF escribió:

Hi,

I came across error while trying to install LyX 2.0.7 in Windows 7
64-bit (actually I have tried in many computers with the same error).
I'm using the setup called "LyX-2.0.7-Bundle-1.exe" downloaded from LyX
official website.  As to Windows, to be exact, I have tried Windows 7
Professional & Enterprise SP1 64-bit but I don't think the *editions*
and *SP1* parts are relevant.  I think the problem would still happen in
other 64-bit Windows O/S, eg XP, Vista, etc.

The error I got are shown in the attached image: the upper dialog
appeared first.  But almost immediately, it's grayed out and the lower
dialog appeared and LyX installation simply was aborted and failed.  LyX
setup then tried to roll back but it got stuck on "Remove folder:
C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.0\" and I had to press the Cancel button.

I went a bit further and described here below:

I took basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe and run it in another Windows 7 64-bit
and it still crashed! I then downloaded basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe
from MiKTeX official website and tried it but that crashed as well!
Seems like MiKTeX setup has very serious problem installing in 64bit O/S!

(Off-topic 1: Maybe it's some known bug like
http://sourceforge.net/p/miktex/bugs/2208/?)
(Off-topic 2: I have heard from some other friends of mine that MiKTeX
is actually a big piece of $h!t and their developers, being very
arrogant, didn't care about their installer not working in 64-bit O/S
and I quite agree with them after finding a lot of mails in their
mailing-list which are never answered!)

But I found out that if I run basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe the second time
with the option "Reinstall using recommended settings" (which is *only*
available when the setup is run outside LyX) after deleting "C:\Program
Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9" folder, the installation went through the end!

Then at this point, if I used "LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe" instead, it's
fine.  So, it might be nice to warn 64 bit O/S users to download the
"LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe" on the download page and give them a little
bit help on installing MiKTeX.

Hope this helps.



That's a problem that I have suffered in the past with different 
programs, after windows actualizations.  This is a windows problem.

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[aparsloe]

On 7/03/2014 11:51 a.m., Denis Navas Vega wrote:

El 2014-03-06 02:39 p.m., STF escribió:

Hi,

I came across error while trying to install LyX 2.0.7 in Windows 7
64-bit (actually I have tried in many computers with the same error).
I'm using the setup called "LyX-2.0.7-Bundle-1.exe" downloaded from LyX
official website.  As to Windows, to be exact, I have tried Windows 7
Professional & Enterprise SP1 64-bit but I don't think the *editions*
and *SP1* parts are relevant.  I think the problem would still happen in
other 64-bit Windows O/S, eg XP, Vista, etc.

The error I got are shown in the attached image: the upper dialog
appeared first.  But almost immediately, it's grayed out and the lower
dialog appeared and LyX installation simply was aborted and failed.  LyX
setup then tried to roll back but it got stuck on "Remove folder:
C:\Program Files (x86)\LyX 2.0\" and I had to press the Cancel button.

I went a bit further and described here below:

I took basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe and run it in another Windows 7 64-bit
and it still crashed! I then downloaded basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe
from MiKTeX official website and tried it but that crashed as well!
Seems like MiKTeX setup has very serious problem installing in 64bit 
O/S!


(Off-topic 1: Maybe it's some known bug like
http://sourceforge.net/p/miktex/bugs/2208/?)
(Off-topic 2: I have heard from some other friends of mine that MiKTeX
is actually a big piece of $h!t and their developers, being very
arrogant, didn't care about their installer not working in 64-bit O/S
and I quite agree with them after finding a lot of mails in their
mailing-list which are never answered!)

But I found out that if I run basic-miktex-2.9.5105.exe the second time
with the option "Reinstall using recommended settings" (which is *only*
available when the setup is run outside LyX) after deleting "C:\Program
Files (x86)\MiKTeX 2.9" folder, the installation went through the end!

Then at this point, if I used "LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe" instead, it's
fine.  So, it might be nice to warn 64 bit O/S users to download the
"LyX-2.0.7-Installer-1.exe" on the download page and give them a little
bit help on installing MiKTeX.

Hope this helps.



That's a problem that I have suffered in the past with different 
programs, after windows actualizations.  This is a windows problem.
I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX 
first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 
64-bit version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer 
without problems, but discovered that biber was missing from that distro 
-- evidently the 64-bit distro is still "experimental" -- so I went back 
to the 32-bit MiKTeX 2.9 (the Basic distribution of 160 MB or so, and 
then added the packages detailed under LaTeX Configuration in LyX's Help 
menu).  It too installed without problems.


As for MiKTeX being a " big piece of $h!t", I haven't had problems with 
it (and it certainly doesn't give me the kind of conflict between 
package managers mentioned in a recent thread on this list that users of 
TeXLive on Ubuntu systems face).


Andrew