Re: slow cursor speed

2023-11-07 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 05:24:13PM -0700, Tim Garrett wrote:
> Thank you Scott!
> 
> Found LyX-2.4.0~beta5+qt5-x86_64-arm64-cocoa.dmg in France.
> 
> Did the trick. No cursor problems at all.
> 
> Now *very* happy.
> 
> Tim

That's great, Tim! Remember it's just a pre-release. Final release won't
be for a couple of months. But that's good to know there's some hope!

Best,
Scott


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Re: slow cursor speed

2023-11-07 Thread Tim Garrett

Thank you Scott!

Found LyX-2.4.0~beta5+qt5-x86_64-arm64-cocoa.dmg in France.

Did the trick. No cursor problems at all.

Now *very* happy.

Tim

On 7 Nov 2023, at 8:19, Scott Kostyshak wrote:


On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 10:07:56AM -0700, Tim Garrett wrote:
I’m near the point that I have to abandon LyX after using it 
religiously as
an academic since 2000 (when it was kLyX-0.12). That makes me *very* 
sad.


The problem is that as a paragraph gets longer, the cursor gets 
slower. The
paragraph doesn’t have to be very long (e.g. a few sentences) for 
this to be
a significant issue. A single paragraph of plain text could be the 
only

thing in the document.

Thanks to those who have helped previously but still no progress. 
Scouring

forums, I see others with similar problems but no obviously pertinent
solutions.

Many, many thanks for any further advice.


What I have tried:
1. Full reinstall including deleting prior LyX-2.3 folder in 
Application\

Support
2. Reconfiguring
3. Adding to preferences \force_paint_single_char false


That sounds like a very frustrating experience.

Have you tried a pre-release of 2.4.0? I forget if you've already 
tried
it. It might make things a bit better, and the final release of 2.4.0 
is

not too far away.

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Re: slow cursor speed

2023-11-07 Thread Marcus Kriele via lyx-users
On 7 Nov 2023, at 16:19, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 10:07:56AM -0700, Tim Garrett wrote:
>> I’m near the point that I have to abandon LyX after using it religiously as
>> an academic since 2000 (when it was kLyX-0.12). That makes me *very* sad.
>> 
>> The problem is that as a paragraph gets longer, the cursor gets slower. The
>> paragraph doesn’t have to be very long (e.g. a few sentences) for this to be
>> a significant issue. A single paragraph of plain text could be the only
>> thing in the document.
>> 
>> Thanks to those who have helped previously but still no progress. Scouring
>> forums, I see others with similar problems but no obviously pertinent
>> solutions.
>> 
>> Many, many thanks for any further advice.
>> 
>> 
>> What I have tried:
>> 1. Full reinstall including deleting prior LyX-2.3 folder in Application\
>> Support
>> 2. Reconfiguring
>> 3. Adding to preferences \force_paint_single_char false
> 
> That sounds like a very frustrating experience.
> 
> Have you tried a pre-release of 2.4.0? I forget if you've already tried
> it. It might make things a bit better, and the final release of 2.4.0 is
> not too far away.
> 
> Best,
> Scott
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I am using 2.3.7 on macOS Sonoma (and before that on Monterey) and I do not 
experience any slowdown. My document is over 1000 pages split into less than 10 
files. It certainly contains paragraphs which are much longer than a few 
sentences. So I presume that  it could be an issue with your configuration. 

In your preferences I noticed:

# LyX 2.0.4 generated this file. If you want to make your own
# modifications you should do them from inside LyX and save.

Format 1

Just a stab in the dark as I do not know anything about the inner workings of 
LyX, but could it have anything to do with that old version of LyX and the very 
old Format number?

LyX is painfully slow on my Windows computer, but this is a 5 year old Pentium 
Surface Go, which was severely underpowered even when it was brand new. Event 
on that machine I did not experience any dependence on the length of the 
paragraph.

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Re: slow cursor speed

2023-11-07 Thread Tim Garrett
Hi Scott,

Thanks for the tip. Not seeing the pre-release at https://www.lyx.org/Download

Anywhere else I should look?

Thanks for the time

Tim

On 7 Nov 2023, at 8:19, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 10:07:56AM -0700, Tim Garrett wrote:
>> I’m near the point that I have to abandon LyX after using it religiously as
>> an academic since 2000 (when it was kLyX-0.12). That makes me *very* sad.
>>
>> The problem is that as a paragraph gets longer, the cursor gets slower. The
>> paragraph doesn’t have to be very long (e.g. a few sentences) for this to be
>> a significant issue. A single paragraph of plain text could be the only
>> thing in the document.
>>
>> Thanks to those who have helped previously but still no progress. Scouring
>> forums, I see others with similar problems but no obviously pertinent
>> solutions.
>>
>> Many, many thanks for any further advice.
>>
>>
>> What I have tried:
>> 1. Full reinstall including deleting prior LyX-2.3 folder in Application\
>> Support
>> 2. Reconfiguring
>> 3. Adding to preferences \force_paint_single_char false
>
> That sounds like a very frustrating experience.
>
> Have you tried a pre-release of 2.4.0? I forget if you've already tried
> it. It might make things a bit better, and the final release of 2.4.0 is
> not too far away.
>
> Best,
> Scott
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Hebrew, Turkish, Greek Translations Being Dropped?

2023-11-07 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
Translations for Hebrew, Turkish, and Greek have dropped below 50%, 
meaning that fewer than half the UI strings are translated. For this 
reason, we are curently planning not to distribute translations for 
these languages with LyX 2.4. If you speak one of these languages and 
would like to see the translation continue, then please see this email:


http://lists.lyx.org/pipermail/lyx-docs/Week-of-Mon-20231106/000667.html

for some relevant information.

If you want to know more about this, feel free to ask about it on the 
lyx-devel mailing list. Contributing translations is one great way to 
give back to the LyX community!


Riki


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Translations for LyX 2.4

2023-11-07 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck

Hi, all,

We are moving (finally) towards the release of LyX 2.4. Strings have 
been frozen and prepared for translation. The most recent versions of 
the po files (for UI translations) can be found here:


    https://www.lyx.org/I18n-trunk

Just click on the link for your language.

Changes to the manuals have been marked using change tracking. If you 
wish to update those, they can be found here:


    https://git.lyx.org/?p=lyx.git;hb=master;a=tree;f=lib/doc

We'd like to release the first release candidate within about 6 weeks, 
so it'd be good to have translations of the UI by then. If that's not 
possible, please let me know. We can certainly add additional 
translations before the final release (maybe mid- to late-January?).


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Re: slow cursor speed

2023-11-07 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 10:07:56AM -0700, Tim Garrett wrote:
> I’m near the point that I have to abandon LyX after using it religiously as
> an academic since 2000 (when it was kLyX-0.12). That makes me *very* sad.
> 
> The problem is that as a paragraph gets longer, the cursor gets slower. The
> paragraph doesn’t have to be very long (e.g. a few sentences) for this to be
> a significant issue. A single paragraph of plain text could be the only
> thing in the document.
> 
> Thanks to those who have helped previously but still no progress. Scouring
> forums, I see others with similar problems but no obviously pertinent
> solutions.
> 
> Many, many thanks for any further advice.
> 
> 
> What I have tried:
> 1. Full reinstall including deleting prior LyX-2.3 folder in Application\
> Support
> 2. Reconfiguring
> 3. Adding to preferences \force_paint_single_char false

That sounds like a very frustrating experience.

Have you tried a pre-release of 2.4.0? I forget if you've already tried
it. It might make things a bit better, and the final release of 2.4.0 is
not too far away.

Best,
Scott


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Re: Shortcuts under MacOs Sonoma

2023-11-07 Thread Daniel CLEMENT via lyx-users
Thanks for your reply Isaac.

The user directory is: ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/ 

That sounded correct. 

So I investigated a bit more on the Python side.  It was definitely a Python 
issue.

I still can hardly believe it, but it seems that the upgrade had completely 
stripped my system of any Python. I (re)installed it from the official site, 
and all the LyX shortcuts got working again. And the reconfigure function, too.

So, problem solved for now. BR, Daniel

> Le 7 nov. 2023 à 04:01, Isaac Oscar Gariano  a écrit :
> 
> Dear Daniel,
> I personally am not familiar with MacOS, but it sounds like LyX isn't finding 
> your files correctly.
> If you go to Help → About LyX, it will list a folder as "User directory",
> Does that folder contain the bind/user.bind​ file you want to use?
> 
> — Isaac Oscar Gariano​From: lyx-users  on 
> behalf of Daniel CLEMENT via lyx-users 
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2023 6:49 AM
> To: LyX 
> Subject: Shortcuts under MacOs Sonoma
>  Dear list members,
> 
> I have recently upgraded my MacBook to MacOs 14 “Sonoma” last week (right 
> from 12).
> 
> LyX (2.3.7) was one of the main apps that I have tested; it appeared to work 
> well at first glance. But only today I have noticed a couple of issues, 
> mainly shortcuts, but possibly related:
> 
> 1) I’ve lost my shortcuts (sigh!) My shortcut file is still there. I have 
> reloaded it for good measure, but no luck. So, no Cmd-O to open a file, Cmd-D 
> for displayed maths and so on… (-> “unknown function” in the taskbar).
> 
> 2) Then I tried to reconfigure, but I got an error message like: “reconfigure 
> failed - implicit classes will be used but maybe LyX won’t work normally”.
> 
> 3) I happened to try and open a file coming from LyX 2.1, but I got: 
> “ comes from an old LyX version, but the LyX2LyX script could not 
> convert it”.
> 
> Doesn’t all this look like a Python issue? I don’t want to rush into any 
> hazardous workaround… What would you suggest?
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance for any advice - best regards, Daniel
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Re: slow cursor speed

2023-11-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 06/11/2023 à 18:07, Tim Garrett a écrit :
I’m near the point that I have to abandon LyX after using it religiously 
as an academic since 2000 (when it was kLyX-0.12). That makes me /very/ sad.


The problem is that as a paragraph gets longer, the cursor gets slower. 
The paragraph doesn’t have to be very long (e.g. a few sentences) for 
this to be a significant issue. A single paragraph of plain text could 
be the only thing in the document.


Hi Tim,

It would be bad to see you abandon LyX...

My difficulty to help you here is that I do not have access to a macOS 
machine. One thing you could try is to run LyX with a profiler such as 
Instruments from Xcode. I am not sure what you will obtain with a 
release version of LyX though, since it does not have much debug 
information.


JMarc

PS : please keep the discussion on the list.


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Re: Debian 12 and Lyx 2.3.7-1

2023-11-07 Thread Peter
Isaac Oskar,

Thanks a million!  The script ran perfectly, and now Lyx, this beta version, 
starts and runs perfectly!  What a relief!  Back to work and spared from Libre 
Office!  

I'll uninstall 2.3.7 and wait for 2.4 to find its way into Bookworm, and 
meanwhile use this one.

Peter

On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 05:32:47 +
Isaac Oscar Gariano  wrote:

> Dear Peter and Folsk,
> Although I was able to reproduce the issue with LyX 2.3.7 (the version on the 
> debian repos), I was unable to reproduce the issue with the current LyX 2.4 
> beta.
> My guess is this is because LyX 2.3.7 uses Qt5 but LyX 2.4 uses Qt6.
> As there's no issue with the current development version and it only seems to 
> be happening on fluxbox, I don't think this problem is a top priority for the 
> developers.
> 
> To use LyX 2.4, it seems you will need to compile it yourself, but I wrote a 
> simple sh script that should do everything for and install lyx to 
> /usr/local/bin/lyx (v 2.3.7 will still be accesable at /usr/bin/lyx):
> 
> su -c 'apt-get install libhunspell-dev libenchant-2-dev libaspell-dev bc 
> gettext libmagic-dev make qt6-base-private-dev qt6-base-dev qt6-svg-dev g++'
> wget https://lyx.mirror.garr.it/devel/lyx-2.4/lyx-2.4.0~beta5.tar.xz
> tar -xvf 'lyx-2.4.0~beta5.tar.xz'
> cd 'lyx-2.4.0~beta5'
> mkdir build
> cd build
> export CXXFLAGS='-Wno-deprecated-declarations -Wno-c++20-compat -Wall -O2  
> -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 -fstack-protector-strong 
> -funwind-tables -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fstack-clash-protection 
> -flto=auto'
> export LDFLAGS='-flto=auto'
> ../configure --enable-qt6 --without-included-boost --with-aspell 
> --with-hunspell --with-enchant --enable-build-type=rel
> make
> make install
> 
> — Isaac Oscar Gariano​
> 
> From: lyx-users  on behalf of Peter 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2023 9:04 AM
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
> Subject: Re: Debian 12 and Lyx 2.3.7-1
> 
> OK, created a new Virtual Box VM, Debian 12.2.  Installed none of the 
> desktops or WMs or display managers, just the base system.  Then installed 
> xorg, fluxbox and lyx. Started xorg with startx and this entered fluxbox 
> which seemed to be behaving normally.  Then started lyx from a terminal. Same 
> thing, it doesn't manage to start, similar long scrolling list of error 
> messages.
> 
> Then installed ICEWM into this VM, just to make sure, started it with 'startx 
> icewm' and lyx started fine from a terminal.
> 
> So that's it for me now.  I'll try contacting the developers list.
> 
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