Re: Include .bbl File

[Daniel Watkins]

Bruce Pourciau wrote:
 I used BibDesk to create the bib file. Can I use BibDesk to make a
 bbl file from the bib file? And once I have the bbl file, can I
 include that bbl file directly into my LyX document? Otherwise, if I
 have to paste the bbl file into the exported TeX file, then my LyX
 file and TeX file will no longer correspond.

Hi Bruce,

Have you tried putting the whole thing inside an ERT inset? That's the first
thing that came to my mind, and it seems like the logical thing to do...

Dan

Re: Export/View to HTML/Word/OO.Writer not working at all

[Dean O'Connor]

yeah I came across that link (below) before and actually had a stab at 
trying to get tex4ht, but unfortunately the link in section 3.2 for the 
install gives me a server not found error !!

http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/support/tex4ht.html

Then down in section 6 where you setup tex4ht there is a link to 
tex4ht-miktex-install.zip 
http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/support/tex4ht-miktex-install.zip 
which I can get, but it doesn't contain any htlatex.bat.
There is a miktex-install.bat but it requires I have the tex4ht 
installed in the first place !! I can see it will create a htlatex.bat 
from the .tab file there.
I tried copying the htlatexp.tab to my miktex bin and rename it to 
htlatex.bat, then running htlatex xypic.tex. Lots of scrolling message 
and left at a latex prompt, but still no go. Also warnings about not 
finding tex4ht.env.


But I see that in my C:\texmf\miktex\bin most of the tex4ht stuff is 
already there (from bundle install). Well the tex4ht.exe anyways :) So 
it does seem that tex4ht stuff is already included in the bundle, 
just maybe not completely 


Steve, with the  htlatex.bat you sent me, I get ! LaTeX Error: File 
`tex4ht.sty' not found. error.


So I guess if I have to get/install tex4ht, where exactly do I get it 
from ???

Obviously, it seems only logical all this be included in the Lyx bundle.

Cheers
Dean.


Steve Harris wrote:


About a problem originally reported on the User list.
The html viewer option and export option usually
handled by htlatex doesn't work in LyX Windows XP.

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

I don't see a directory for tex4ht on the path (unless I'm missing it).



Dean: Any ideas ?



Paul:
Did you download and install tex4ht?  (There are instructions for 
MiKTeX users at 
http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/support/tex4ht.html.)  
The htlatex.bat file is part of the installation, in htlatex 
root\bin\win32\.


/Paul




A missing tex4ht package is confirmed as the problem.
I just tried the new 1.4.2 installer and it downloads
Miktex with an htlatex.exe file, but not the rest of it.

I reproduced the same error message as Dean earlier:

C:\texmf\miktex\binhtlatex splash.tex
htlatex: the batch script could not be found.

In earlier versions of LyX, the installation searched
for an Html converter and under Preferences one could
usually find Latex - HTML with htlatex listed/chosen.

This new installer apparently doesn't search for an html
converter although Html is still listed as a Viewer option.
I tried with tex4ht installed and the new 1.4.2 Win installer.

Since htlatex export never seems to have worked in WinLyX I
don't know that a solution would be for the new installer
to include tex4ht in its default download and installation
of Miktex when Miktex is missing. Htlatex would then work
from the command line without new users having to figure
out they needed to install another package too. I was
surprised that the default installation includes just
htlatex.exe but not the rest of the package.

I like the new installer.

Thank you,
Stephen

Add entries to table of figures

[Catherine Heyrendt]

It is possible to add unnumbered entries manually to the table of 
contents:


ERT \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{name of your choice}

Is it possible to add similar entries to the table of figures?

Thanks for any help!

Links partnership request to http://www.mybookmarks.com

[Edward Taylor]

Hello, 
My name is Edward Taylor, and I want to propose you triangle (three way 
linking) link exchange.
I can place your link on the one of the following home pages:
http://pharma.nieruchomosci.pl  (PR=6)
http://rx.auto.pl  (PR=5)

Page where you place my link must meet next requirements:

1. Page Rank of the page is not less than Page Rank of our Page - 1 
2. Your page is not the page in site link directory 
3. If your page has less PR than PR of our page, then you page must be home 
page.
4. Your page must contain not more than 15 outbound links. 

Here is my linking info:
a href=http://www.phentermine-information.us; 
alt=PhenterminePhentermine/a

Waiting for your decision, and responce.
Regards, Edward Taylor.

Re: Add entries to table of figures

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Catherine Heyrendt wrote:
 ERT \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{name of your choice}

 Is it possible to add similar entries to the table of figures?

Sure. Just use lof instead of toc.

Jürgen

Re: Add entries to table of figures

[Catherine Heyrendt]

Catherine Heyrendt wrote:

ERT \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{name of your choice}

Is it possible to add similar entries to the table of figures?


Sure. Just use lof instead of toc.

Jürgen


It worked very nicely:

\addcontentsline{lof}{figure}{name chosen for figure}

A bit silly of me not to have thought about it. Thank you very much!

Re: Export/View to HTML/Word/OO.Writer not working at all

[Dean O'Connor]

well I have downloaded tex4ht-all.zip from 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/support/TeX4ht/ and unziped it in c:/tex4ht.
Also downloaded the newt4ht.zip 
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/%7Egurari/TeX4ht/fix/newt4ht.zip from 
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/bugfixes.html and unzipped 
it to c:/tex4ht.


I have mod'd the miktex-install.bat to match the current package paths, 
but still get a few errors and warnings.


I have to fiddle around trying to put tex4ht.zip in C:\tex4ht\tex4ht dir.

Still after all this hackery I still get pretty much same errors doing a 
htlatex xypic.tex.


I have yet to try that approach via the setup.exe you said worked. Seems 
a bit over the top to have to install parallel versions of Miktex to 
accomplish this.


I have to take a step back here at say the reason I tried Lyx in the 
first place was basically because my Dad writes books and is constantly 
dueling with formatting hassles with Word.
I also have a biz partner who write mountains of doco in Word and is 
tired of formatting hassles.
So when I discovered Lyx I thought it might be easier for them, as it 
concentrates on structure rather than the hassles with format.


Now this Lyx bundle offers a nice solution, and I still might go with 
it, but I kinda wanted the Export to Word/html as a safety net if people 
required those formats.
I cannot really go thru all this hassle trying to get this install 
completely.


I totally agree with your motto about persistence being the key to 
success, but unfortunately I am going to have to toss the ball back into 
the Lyx team's court on this one and hope they can get full Export 
capability into the bundle.
They advertise you don't have to delve into the Tex world to use their 
product so I am going to hold them to that :) Certainly is an impressive 
product tho.


I will check back regularly to see if there is a clean way to install 
all this tex4ht component for Lyx..


Heaps of thanks for your efforts mate.

Cheers
Dean.



Steve Harris wrote:

Dean O'Connor wrote:




So I guess if I have to get/install tex4ht, where exactly do I get it 
from ???

Obviously, it seems only logical all this be included in the Lyx bundle.

Cheers
Dean.




The thing is that the whole miktex bundle is around 470mb and
the link is to about a 202mb installation of Miktex. Some
things get left out.

You notice that Miktex2.5 is small and doesn't contain
tex4ht.cab in its download.

I uninstalled Miktex2.4 in order to reproduce your error.
The 1.4.2 installer doesn't download the tex4ht package.

Afterwards I reinstalled:
So I used the Miktex setup.exe to download all the 2.4
packages (cabs) to a local repository (miktexfiles). Then
I ran Miktex setup.exe again and chose install from a
local repository (C:\miktexfiles) to C:\texmf using
the defaults and choosing Complete. It is time-consuming
so let it run over lunch.

htlatex works again. I have C:\texmf\miktex\bin in
Windows Path statement. Otherwise I have sent you two
posts with urls for the tex*zip files. That is not
the method I chose, I used the *.cab method.

Good luck,
Stephen

Re: Collect all documents used in a LyX file...revisited

[Georg Baum]

Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 00:35 schrieb Jose' Matos:
 On Friday 14 July 2006 23:06, Curtis Osterhoudt wrote:
       Does anyone have more experience with such programs?
 
       Perhaps I just need to get better organized :)
 
   Could you, please, fill an entry in bugzilla with this request so that 
it 
 does not get forgotten?

Already there: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700


Georg

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Georg Baum]

Am Freitag, 14. Juli 2006 22:55 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
  Jose' == Jose' Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Jose'   Reading the rpm spec file I see there this bit:
 
 Jose' %post ... cd %{_datadir}/lyx  ./configure  /dev/null 21
 Jose' ||:
 
 This in particular should go away.

And it has indeed been removed from our own spec file.

Georg

Re: Collect all documents used in a LyX file...revisited

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 15 July 2006 13:33, Georg Baum wrote:

 Already there: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700

  As soon as finished what I am doing I would like to extend LyX.py to support 
some scripting operations over lyx files.

  One of the other examples that I have in mind (it should be easy) is to get 
the set of words present in a lyx document (I am generalising this to imply 
the file and its slaves).

  This is usefull to construct an index, as Steve (IIRC) said in this list 
sometime ago.

 Georg

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Include .bbl File

[Bo Peng]

Have you tried putting the whole thing inside an ERT inset? That's the first
thing that came to my mind, and it seems like the logical thing to do...


That is what I did. Later on, in an attempt not to mess up the lyx
file, I manually insert .bbl to .tex before I submit the paper (in
.tex format) to the journal office.

Bo

Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

[Nicolás]

Hi!

I have just installed Lyx 1.4.2 using the windows installer (small 
version). After the installation Lyx was not aware of the Tex 
configuartion. That is, Tools-Tex Information provided no info at all. 
I run myself TeXFiles.py and copy the generated files to the right 
place. After that everythings looks fine.


Nicolás

Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

[David Halpern]

Nicolás,
I have the exact same problem. Could you elaborate exactly what you did? How
do your run the texfiles.py file and where should the generated files go?
Thanks.
David


On 7/15/06, Nicolás [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi!

I have just installed Lyx 1.4.2 using the windows installer (small
version). After the installation Lyx was not aware of the Tex
configuartion. That is, Tools-Tex Information provided no info at all.
I run myself TeXFiles.py and copy the generated files to the right
place. After that everythings looks fine.

Nicolás

Open file at last edit pointr

[Gerald Cecil]

Hello,

is there a way to open a file at the last edit point? I could of course
just leave a temporary tag/bookmark and Navigate to it if there isn't
another way. But, then I'd have to remove it later. Developers, would it
make sense otherwise to add a Last Edit tag automatically on save that
would be available at the top of the Navigate tab?
---
Gerald Cecil
Physics  Astronomy UNC-Chapel Hill, NC USA

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Alex wrote:


Dear all,

Thank you for the answers to everybody. I don't want to start an 
avalanche. :)


Thanks for the HW examples, and also for the suggestions.


I'd just like to say that I could work reasonably well on my phd thesis 
(250+ A5-pages) using LyX 1.3.x on a laptop (P3, 300 MHz, 256 MB RAM). 
Note that I'd split it up into four parts (multi-part document) and 
usually worked on the parts separately. It was however quite doable to 
compile the full document. I also usually prevented images from being 
displayed inside the LyX window, but that was really to let me focus on 
the text.


cheers
/Christian

PS. The OS is actually still RedHat 7.3, Gnome and Sawfish as window 
manager. In fact, that's what I'm using to post this from :-)


--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Recommended hardware for running LyX (Was: Minimum HW requirement)

[christian . ridderstrom]

The (somewhat) recent discussion on minimum hardware requirements inspired 
me to create this page:


http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/RecommendedHardware

I'm not quite happy with the name yet so that might change if someone 
comes up with a better name. My thinking is that the page should basically 
held a LyX user to know in advance what kind of computer system is needed 
to use LyX for his purpose.


I've added my experience as examples to that page, but it is really only 
based on LyX 1.3 and Linux. I'd therefore be grateful if others would add 
examples from using LyX with 1.4 and on Windows.


When we have more examples, it might be possible to rewrite the page with 
more concise information on what the recommended hardware actually is 
:-)


cheers
Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Open file at last edit pointr

[Bo Peng]

On 7/15/06, Gerald Cecil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

is there a way to open a file at the last edit point?


What you are asking is already in the development branch, along with a
few other session features. I am not quite sure if it will be merged
to the next stable version (1.4.3) but it will certainly be in 1.5.0.

Cheers,
Bo

Re: Wiki idea

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:


Paul A. Rubin wrote:

http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php


Cheers,
Charles


Outstanding!  This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps
someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a
FAQ).


Well, this page
http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links


If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-)


lists that link for ages.


Seriously though.. Paul, as you asked first, could you see if there are 
some words or description you think should be added to that sentence?

Maybe it's just a matter of giving the link a longer description.

/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Open file at last edit pointr

[Georg Baum]

Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 18:02 schrieb Gerald Cecil:
 Hello,
 
 is there a way to open a file at the last edit point?

That is implemented in the development version that will become 1.5.0.

 I could of course 
 just leave a temporary tag/bookmark and Navigate to it if there isn't
 another way. But, then I'd have to remove it later. Developers, would it
 make sense otherwise to add a Last Edit tag automatically on save that
 would be available at the top of the Navigate tab?

I don't know. If you think it is useful add it at http://bugzilla.lyx.org 
as an enhancement request.


Georg

Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

[Georg Baum]

Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 17:05 schrieb David Halpern:
 Nicolás,
 I have the exact same problem. Could you elaborate exactly what you did? 
How
 do your run the texfiles.py file and where should the generated files go?

If you simply run Tools-TeX information-rescan all should be OK.


Georg

Re: keyboard access to environment selection menu

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Sven Schreiber wrote:

Paul A. Rubin schrieb:


M-p (alt-p) followed by a space opens the environment list.  From there,
repeatedly typing the same letter cycles through all environment names
starting with that letter.



Thanks alot Paul! I looked in the guides and the wiki and couldn't find
it. Is it documented? Otherwise I will put it up on the wiki.

-Sven



I learned it from someone else on the list.  AFAIK, it's not documented 
directly, but I never looked for it.


Sven, thanks for adding the text to
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/FrequentlyUsedShortcuts

cheers
/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Indexing... (Was: Minimum HW requirement)

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Steve Litt wrote:

By the way, what I did for indexing on Troubleshooting Techniques of 
the Successful Technologist was to run the LyX file through a 
shellscript that split it into individual words and performed a unique 
sort. I came up with less than 1000 words. I then looked at every word, 
decided whether it, or a phrase including it, deserved a place in the 
index, weeding out all the extraneous words. Now armed with a list of 
words, within LyX I searched for all occurrences of each word and tagged 
them. If memory serves me, it took about 2 days to index this book of 
over 100,000 words, and the resulting index was complete and easy to 
use.


This sounds quite effective. I know wiki isn't your style, but maybe we 
could together describe how to do this so that others can also use it?
Primarily I'm thinking of creating a simple example set with a .lyx-file, 
shell script and expected output.


What do you think?

regards
/Christian

PS. As an aside, I did something similar with all formulas in my thesis in 
order to ensure I had a consistent notation. This was actually also very 
useful when creating the list of symbols.


--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: portable Lyx version: live lyx CD or others?

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006, Robin Green wrote:


On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:57:10 -0700
Michael Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi, MS Office is installed in all public libraries. However I would
like to edit my lyx files in library computer. At home I installed lyx
1.4.2 from scratch to my U-disk, hoping that I can use it on other
machine. Amazingly I can see my lyx files on other computers too.

However (1) I can not produce DVI file. (2) Instant preview of some
math fonts is missing, such as \eta

Live CD on Wiki page would reboot a computer into linux system and
then use Lyx. One can not do this on a public machine though. I think
it is meaningful to produce a portable Lyx, which can be used with
U-disk, CD or DVD. Any suggestions?


I'd just like to say it sounds like a very useful idea although I have no 
suggestions (I've never used LyX on windows).  In addition, it'd be a very 
nice way for people to try LyX without having to install it permanently.


/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Wiki idea

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-)

I guess the question is What can we do to make the wiki a bit more 
transparent? 
(note that this is not directed at you; in this specific case, the people who 
didn't find the answer should investigate and add the links they find 
missing).

Jürgen

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Steve Harris wrote:


Rich Shepard wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Steve Harris wrote:


I think that since pdflatex doesn't use the .eps format this might mean an
automatic conversion of any (mixed) eps files to pdflatex compatible
formats. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought this was done manually.


Hi Steve

The description below is very nice... do you know if it's alread on the 
wiki?  If not, I'd like to add it, although I'm not quite sure where it 
should be added. Any ideas on where?


/C


Well, I think I've read this more than one place.

http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/GF/bibliog/latex/LaTeXtoPDF.html



dvipdfm method

If you don't need PostScript output, you can save a step by going directly 
from DVI to PDF format by using dvipdfm:


  latexdvipdfm
text.tex --- text.dvi --- text.pdf

Once again, the figures must be Encapsulated PS. So you have compact, 
scalable graphics ? with one less step.


--

Pdflatex method

The pdflatex program produces a PDF file directly from the LaTeX source:

 pdflatex
text.tex  text.pdf

That looks pretty painless; but there's a catch. While the previous methods 
employ EPS exclusively as the graphics format, pdflatex won't accept EPS 
directly at all: you have to convert all the graphics to JPEG, PNG, or PDF 
(!) before compiling.


That isn't as bad as it sounds, because EPS can be ?wrapped? with PDF headers 
to become PDF and still have scalable, vector graphics. And JPEG is a compact 
format for photographs, while PNG is a very compact way to store images with 
sharp outlines without introducing compression artifacts.


Regards,
Stephen




--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

[David Halpern]

Georg,
I tried what you suggested but rescanning doesn't help.
David

On 7/15/06, Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 17:05 schrieb David Halpern:
 Nicolás,
 I have the exact same problem. Could you elaborate exactly what you did?
How
 do your run the texfiles.py file and where should the generated files
go?

If you simply run Tools-TeX information-rescan all should be OK.


Georg

Improving the wiki (Was: Wiki idea)

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-)


I guess the question is What can we do to make the wiki a bit more
transparent?


That is a very good question and one that I'd really appreciate some 
useful tips on.


(note that this is not directed at you; in this specific case, the 
people who didn't find the answer should investigate and add the links 
they find missing).


I know, but it's still considerate of you to say so. :-)

The question still remains:

How can we make it easier to find information on the wiki?

Don't be afraid to make suggestions that require changing the structure.
Or how the software operates for that matter.


/Christian

PS. As far as I'm concerned it is perfectly fine to require LyX users to 
read a certain amount of documentation. However, finding what you are 
looking for should be much easier than it is right now.


--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Prouncing LyX - help with sound file

[christian . ridderstrom]

Hi

Juergen has written the page http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Pronunciation that 
explains a bit about how LyX is pronounced. We are however missing sound 
files that examplify how different people, users and developers, actually 
pronounce the word.


Since the developers are busy on more productive work :-), I'd like to ask 
for some volunteers to create a sound examples where the person says 
something like


I prounounce LyX LyX.

or the equivalent in your language. Examples in many languages are 
welcome. Especially as we know it's pronounced differentely. For instance, 
in some languages the word lyx exists naturally, in swedish it means 
luxury.


Sound files isn't my area so I don't know if .wav is better or worse than 
say .mp3. Ideally both I guess?


If you would like to help with this, please don't send sound files to the 
list. Contact me privately instead and I'll get them uploaded and linked 
to properly from the wiki page.


best regards
/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Prouncing LyX - help with sound file

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Juergen has written the page http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Pronunciation that
explains a bit about how LyX is pronounced. We are however missing sound
files that examplify how different people, users and developers, actually
pronounce the word.


  Having a slow weekend, are we Christian?

  When geeks can't get dates ...

:-)

Rich

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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.(TM)|Accelerator
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Re: portable Lyx version: live lyx CD or others?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Michael Chen wrote:

I think
it is meaningful to produce a portable Lyx, which can be used with
U-disk, CD or DVD. Any suggestions?


There was a discussion on the list not too long ago about running LyX 
from a flash drive.  You might be able to find it in the GMANE list 
archive.  (Sorry, don't recall the details, and in particular whether 
anyone pulled it off.)  It's also on the Wiki in poll of requested 
features (http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FeaturePoll).  You might want to chime 
in there.


/Paul

Exporting to pdf on windows XP

[Myriam Abramson]

I got an error from acroread that the file was corrupted when trying
to view a Lyx document (Beamer presentation) into pdf using pdflatex.
Any ideas?
-- 
   myriam

Re: beamer.layout on Windows

[Myriam Abramson]

Thanks. It was found finally. The Framesubtitle feature of
beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 
-- 
   myriam

Re: Wiki idea

[Paul A. Rubin]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:


Paul A. Rubin wrote:

http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php


Cheers,
Charles


Outstanding!  This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps
someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a
FAQ).


Well, this page
http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links


If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-)


lists that link for ages.


Seriously though.. Paul, as you asked first, could you see if there are 
some words or description you think should be added to that sentence?

Maybe it's just a matter of giving the link a longer description.

/Christian



Ok, mea culpa, it didn't occur to me to look on the Wiki (since it was a 
BibTeX question, not a LyX question).  That said, my approach to 
researching pretty much anything on the Wiki is to use the search 
facility.  So for me the wording on the links page was sufficient. (It 
might not be a bad idea to organize the links into sections, even though 
there are not that many links, but I'll leave that to someone else.) 
What I did is edit Bibtex/PageList to indicate that the links section 
includes tips on styles.  This is (the page list) the first page I would 
check after searching on bibtex, and I would give links a low 
priority since they could be links to anything.  Short of devoting a 
separate page to how to pick a bibtex style, I think this is as much 
as we can do.


On the general question of making the wiki more transparent, I think 
it's in pretty good shape as it is.  To me, the higher priority is to 
get people looking at the wiki in the first place, and secondarily to 
let them know that it includes more than just information about LyX.  To 
that end, I wonder if (down the road) some enterprising developer might 
put a link to the wiki in the LyX help menu?


/Paul

Re: Prouncing LyX - help with sound file

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Juergen has written the page http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Pronunciation that
explains a bit about how LyX is pronounced. We are however missing sound
files that examplify how different people, users and developers, actually
pronounce the word.


 Having a slow weekend, are we Christian?


I wish.. catching up on on 1200 posts on various lists is a bit tough... 
my eyes are probably square right now. Shouldn't complain though... that's 
what you get after two weeks vacation :-)



 When geeks can't get dates ...


Sort of true actually, as my girlfriend went off on her own today [*] I've 
spent the rest of the day doing mail. Now I'm finally done!


Anyway, I'm certainly a geek since I actually look forward to using the 
next 2-3 days trying to fix some wiki-related stuff. Perhaps re-organizing 
and/or structuring the FAQ pages. It's been a while since I had time for 
hobbies.


The pronounciation bit is pretty interesting though...

I suspect that the sound snippet where Linus Torvalds pronounces linux 
helped promote linux quite a bit...


It is also interesting how you Americans usually can't hear the difference 
between the vowel sound Swedes/Norwegians make when pronouncing LyX 
compared to eg licks.


cheers
/Christian

[* ] The advantage with a long vacation is that first you can go away with 
your significant other and then you can also get some playtime on your 
own. In a few days I'll be off to see Vienna and Innsbruck in Austria :-)


Now, let me think... in the US you typically have... what.. two weeks?

;-)

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Exporting to pdf on windows XP

[Paul A. Rubin]

Myriam Abramson wrote:

I got an error from acroread that the file was corrupted when trying
to view a Lyx document (Beamer presentation) into pdf using pdflatex.
Any ideas?


Maybe a graphic didn't convert properly?  If it repeats, can you post 
the culprit (including any images), or a minimal subset of it that glitches?


/Paul

Re: Export/View to HTML/Word/OO.Writer not working at all

[Steve Harris]

Dean O'Connor wrote:


well I have downloaded tex4ht-all.zip from 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/support/TeX4ht/ and unziped it in 
c:/tex4ht.
Also downloaded the newt4ht.zip 
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/%7Egurari/TeX4ht/fix/newt4ht.zip from 
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/bugfixes.html and unzipped 
it to c:/tex4ht.


I have mod'd the miktex-install.bat to match the current package paths, 
but still get a few errors and warnings.


I have to fiddle around trying to put tex4ht.zip in C:\tex4ht\tex4ht dir.

Still after all this hackery I still get pretty much same errors doing a 
htlatex xypic.tex.


I have yet to try that approach via the setup.exe you said worked. Seems 
a bit over the top to have to install parallel versions of Miktex to 
accomplish this.


I have to take a step back here at say the reason I tried Lyx in the 
first place was basically because my Dad writes books and is constantly 
dueling with formatting hassles with Word.
I also have a biz partner who write mountains of doco in Word and is 
tired of formatting hassles.
So when I discovered Lyx I thought it might be easier for them, as it 
concentrates on structure rather than the hassles with format.


Now this Lyx bundle offers a nice solution, and I still might go with 
it, but I kinda wanted the Export to Word/html as a safety net if people 
required those formats.
I cannot really go thru all this hassle trying to get this install 
completely.


I totally agree with your motto about persistence being the key to 
success, but unfortunately I am going to have to toss the ball back into 
the Lyx team's court on this one and hope they can get full Export 
capability into the bundle.
They advertise you don't have to delve into the Tex world to use their 
product so I am going to hold them to that :) Certainly is an impressive 
product tho.


I will check back regularly to see if there is a clean way to install 
all this tex4ht component for Lyx..


Heaps of thanks for your efforts mate.

Cheers
Dean.




I took a look at that tex4ht zip installation page. It should
never be recommended to a Windows user migrating to LyX and
who has chosen the AllinOne installer to avoid abstruse docs.

http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn.html
To be installed, the system needs a port made up of native
utilities of TeX4ht and of non-native utilities. The easiest
way to establish an up to date port is to download an installed 
distribution of the system, and refresh it with the files

provided here. Eitan M. Gurari

So if you have a Miktex installation directory with Tex4ht
installed from the cab files it uses, you will find that
Tex4ht is installed to (default)C:\texmf\tex4ht and that
the helper files are mixed in with C:\texmf\miktex\bin
That provides a model for where your upgrading files go.
C:\texmf\miktex\bin has no spaces and should be in the PATH.

From the zip file method of Tex4ht installation webpage:
# Where do you want to put the TeX4ht files? I recommend
that you put them in c:\tex4ht, but you can change this
(eg, by putting them onto drive D). Your choice must not
contain spaces, though.

# Where do you want to put the batch files? Your choice
must be in your path. One suggestion is to put them with
MiKTeX’s (and TeX4ht’s) binaries, which by assumption is
a folder already in your path.

SH: Along with filling out a fairly complicated miktex-
install.bat, I think those instructions could confuse a
new user, who by definition isn't env. variable aware.

I think the solution isn't to point to a manual method.
The automatic solution is to include the tex4ht package
in the default Miktex install that LyX employs. Or if
that is hard to implement, include it like the Bakoma
fonts. LyX has Html as a viewer option. LyX generates

From python configure.py
checking for a LaTeX - HTML converter...
+checking for htlatex...   yes

Why have the html converter process if it doesn't
write the result to Preferences-converters? It
used to do that. Perhaps it isn't intentional but
falls in this category: Tex Information doesn't
display even with a rescan:

Nicolás: ...run TeXFiles.py and copy the generated files to
the right place. [SH: C:\LyX\LyX14\Resources , in my case]

Why run a process to find a html converter when the result
isn't supported like the other options with a download of
the files that make the converter work? Maybe the checking
just looks for htlatex.exe which isn't enough. For some
reason, htlatex.exe and the tex4ht package which includes the
support files for htlatex.exe come in two different packages.

The new user sees html view or html export, but it doesn't
work. He discovers that it is a bug (at least in Windows).
So he a workaround using htlatex foo.tex from the command
line to make foo.html. How is the new user to know that when
he reads this bug has been fixed, that he still needs to
download a zip file, or use Miktex Update Wizared (in this
case May,2006) because this package is treated uniquely.
I 

Re: beamer.layout on Windows

[Paul A. Rubin]

Myriam Abramson wrote:

The Framesubtitle feature of
beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 


Should it?  (Meaning, does it exist as an environment in Linux?)  You 
can enter a frame subtitle by putting \framesubtitle{blah blah blah} in 
ERT as the first thing in the frame title.


/Paul

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Steve Harris]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Steve Harris wrote:


Rich Shepard wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Steve Harris wrote:

I think that since pdflatex doesn't use the .eps format this might 
mean an

automatic conversion of any (mixed) eps files to pdflatex compatible
formats. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought this was done manually.


Hi Steve

The description below is very nice... do you know if it's alread on the 
wiki?  If not, I'd like to add it, although I'm not quite sure where it 
should be added. Any ideas on where?


/C


Well, I think I've read this more than one place.

http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/GF/bibliog/latex/LaTeXtoPDF.html



dvipdfm method

If you don't need PostScript output, you can save a step by going 
directly from DVI to PDF format by using dvipdfm:


  latex   dvipdfm
text.tex --- text.dvi --- text.pdf

Once again, the figures must be Encapsulated PS. So you have compact, 
scalable graphics ? with one less step.


--

Pdflatex method

The pdflatex program produces a PDF file directly from the LaTeX source:

 pdflatex
text.tex  text.pdf

That looks pretty painless; but there's a catch. While the previous 
methods employ EPS exclusively as the graphics format, pdflatex won't 
accept EPS directly at all: you have to convert all the graphics to 
JPEG, PNG, or PDF (!) before compiling.


That isn't as bad as it sounds, because EPS can be ?wrapped? with PDF 
headers to become PDF and still have scalable, vector graphics. And 
JPEG is a compact format for photographs, while PNG is a very compact 
way to store images with sharp outlines without introducing 
compression artifacts.


Regards,
Stephen







Hello Chris!

I did a search on dvipdfm and found this under Change Tracking
for LyX 1.3: When enabled, any edits made to a document are tracked. 
Deleted text is marked in red and struck through, whilst added text

is marked in blue; in addition a changebar is added to the margin.
With the dvipost software installed, such marks can even be exported
to PostScript and PDF (the latter, however, only with ps2pdf and 
dvipdfm; pdflatex does not work).


Why do you suppose pdflatex doesn't work? Which brings me to
indexical software. I was impressed with Steve Litt's indexing
method, which is why I was careful not to be too skeptical of
his remark than an efficacious menu driven layout tool was a
feasible idea. Indexing is one step closer to AI than grammar
checking which needs to capture meaning to some extent.

Anyway if he writes up his method and is willing to answer
questions, I'll do the first draft for the Wiki and make it
look fairly nice. Then you two can review and polish it.
Explaining how to use the script will likely not be short.

To answer your question, I think that the Pdf FAQ is a good
place, for example:
The fonts are bad in the exported PDF, what can I do?

That material may be copyrighted so maybe? a description
and a link. My usage is called fair use however a
permanent display of the entire webpage might require the
author's permisssion. The matter is at your discretion.
Also I don't know when it was written and how far LyX's
automatic conversion extends, meaning I don't know how
Rich used .eps images only with pdflatex.

Regards,
Stephen

RE: Export/View to HTML/Word/OO.Writer not working at all

[Jack M. Lyon]

Dean O'Connor wrote:

 I have to take a step back here at say the reason I tried Lyx in the 
 first place was basically because my Dad writes books and is 
 constantly 
 dueling with formatting hassles with Word.
 I also have a biz partner who write mountains of doco in Word and is 
 tired of formatting hassles.
 So when I discovered Lyx I thought it might be easier for them, as it 
 concentrates on structure rather than the hassles with format.

If they really *have* to use Word but want to concentrate on structure
rather than formatting, they might find my Author Tools template useful
(created for MS Word but inspired by LyX). Click here to download:

http://www.editorium.com/ftp/authortemplate.zip

Feel free to pass it around. And if you have questions, holler.

Thanks!

Best wishes,
Jack M. Lyon
___

The EDITORIUM
Microsoft Word Add-Ins for Publishing Professionals
http://www.editorium.com
___


 -Original Message-
 From: Dean O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 4:43 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org; 
 lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: Re: Export/View to HTML/Word/OO.Writer not working at all
 
 
 
 well I have downloaded tex4ht-all.zip from 
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/support/TeX4ht/ and unziped 
 it in c:/tex4ht.
 Also downloaded the newt4ht.zip 
 http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/%7Egurari/TeX4ht/fix/newt4ht.zip from 
 http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/bugfixes.html 
 and unzipped 
 it to c:/tex4ht.
 
 I have mod'd the miktex-install.bat to match the current 
 package paths, 
 but still get a few errors and warnings.
 
 I have to fiddle around trying to put tex4ht.zip in 
 C:\tex4ht\tex4ht dir.
 
 Still after all this hackery I still get pretty much same 
 errors doing a 
 htlatex xypic.tex.
 
 I have yet to try that approach via the setup.exe you said 
 worked. Seems 
 a bit over the top to have to install parallel versions of Miktex to 
 accomplish this.
 
 I have to take a step back here at say the reason I tried Lyx in the 
 first place was basically because my Dad writes books and is 
 constantly 
 dueling with formatting hassles with Word.
 I also have a biz partner who write mountains of doco in Word and is 
 tired of formatting hassles.
 So when I discovered Lyx I thought it might be easier for them, as it 
 concentrates on structure rather than the hassles with format.
 
 Now this Lyx bundle offers a nice solution, and I still might go with 
 it, but I kinda wanted the Export to Word/html as a safety 
 net if people 
 required those formats.
 I cannot really go thru all this hassle trying to get this install 
 completely.
 
 I totally agree with your motto about persistence being the key to 
 success, but unfortunately I am going to have to toss the 
 ball back into 
 the Lyx team's court on this one and hope they can get full Export 
 capability into the bundle.
 They advertise you don't have to delve into the Tex world to 
 use their 
 product so I am going to hold them to that :) Certainly is an 
 impressive 
 product tho.
 
 I will check back regularly to see if there is a clean way to install 
 all this tex4ht component for Lyx..
 
 Heaps of thanks for your efforts mate.
 
 Cheers
 Dean.
 
 
 
 Steve Harris wrote:
  Dean O'Connor wrote:
 
 
  So I guess if I have to get/install tex4ht, where exactly 
 do I get it 
  from ???
  Obviously, it seems only logical all this be included in 
 the Lyx bundle.
 
  Cheers
  Dean.
 
 
 
  The thing is that the whole miktex bundle is around 470mb and
  the link is to about a 202mb installation of Miktex. Some
  things get left out.
 
  You notice that Miktex2.5 is small and doesn't contain
  tex4ht.cab in its download.
 
  I uninstalled Miktex2.4 in order to reproduce your error.
  The 1.4.2 installer doesn't download the tex4ht package.
 
  Afterwards I reinstalled:
  So I used the Miktex setup.exe to download all the 2.4
  packages (cabs) to a local repository (miktexfiles). Then
  I ran Miktex setup.exe again and chose install from a
  local repository (C:\miktexfiles) to C:\texmf using
  the defaults and choosing Complete. It is time-consuming
  so let it run over lunch.
 
  htlatex works again. I have C:\texmf\miktex\bin in
  Windows Path statement. Otherwise I have sent you two
  posts with urls for the tex*zip files. That is not
  the method I chose, I used the *.cab method.
 
  Good luck,
  Stephen
 
 

Noweb on windows?

[Mark Engelberg]

Is there any literate programming support in LyX on Windows?

Thanks,

Mark

Re: Include .bbl File

[Daniel Watkins]

Bruce Pourciau wrote:
 I used BibDesk to create the bib file. Can I use BibDesk to make a
 bbl file from the bib file? And once I have the bbl file, can I
 include that bbl file directly into my LyX document? Otherwise, if I
 have to paste the bbl file into the exported TeX file, then my LyX
 file and TeX file will no longer correspond.

Hi Bruce,

Have you tried putting the whole thing inside an ERT inset? That's the first
thing that came to my mind, and it seems like the logical thing to do...

Dan

Re: Export/View to HTML/Word/OO.Writer not working at all

[Dean O'Connor]

yeah I came across that link (below) before and actually had a stab at 
trying to get tex4ht, but unfortunately the link in section 3.2 for the 
install gives me a server not found error !!

http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/support/tex4ht.html

Then down in section 6 where you setup tex4ht there is a link to 
tex4ht-miktex-install.zip 
http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/support/tex4ht-miktex-install.zip 
which I can get, but it doesn't contain any htlatex.bat.
There is a miktex-install.bat but it requires I have the tex4ht 
installed in the first place !! I can see it will create a htlatex.bat 
from the .tab file there.
I tried copying the htlatexp.tab to my miktex bin and rename it to 
htlatex.bat, then running htlatex xypic.tex. Lots of scrolling message 
and left at a latex prompt, but still no go. Also warnings about not 
finding tex4ht.env.


But I see that in my C:\texmf\miktex\bin most of the tex4ht stuff is 
already there (from bundle install). Well the tex4ht.exe anyways :) So 
it does seem that tex4ht stuff is already included in the bundle, 
just maybe not completely 


Steve, with the  htlatex.bat you sent me, I get ! LaTeX Error: File 
`tex4ht.sty' not found. error.


So I guess if I have to get/install tex4ht, where exactly do I get it 
from ???

Obviously, it seems only logical all this be included in the Lyx bundle.

Cheers
Dean.


Steve Harris wrote:


About a problem originally reported on the User list.
The html viewer option and export option usually
handled by htlatex doesn't work in LyX Windows XP.

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

I don't see a directory for tex4ht on the path (unless I'm missing it).



Dean: Any ideas ?



Paul:
Did you download and install tex4ht?  (There are instructions for 
MiKTeX users at 
http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/support/tex4ht.html.)  
The htlatex.bat file is part of the installation, in htlatex 
root\bin\win32\.


/Paul




A missing tex4ht package is confirmed as the problem.
I just tried the new 1.4.2 installer and it downloads
Miktex with an htlatex.exe file, but not the rest of it.

I reproduced the same error message as Dean earlier:

C:\texmf\miktex\binhtlatex splash.tex
htlatex: the batch script could not be found.

In earlier versions of LyX, the installation searched
for an Html converter and under Preferences one could
usually find Latex - HTML with htlatex listed/chosen.

This new installer apparently doesn't search for an html
converter although Html is still listed as a Viewer option.
I tried with tex4ht installed and the new 1.4.2 Win installer.

Since htlatex export never seems to have worked in WinLyX I
don't know that a solution would be for the new installer
to include tex4ht in its default download and installation
of Miktex when Miktex is missing. Htlatex would then work
from the command line without new users having to figure
out they needed to install another package too. I was
surprised that the default installation includes just
htlatex.exe but not the rest of the package.

I like the new installer.

Thank you,
Stephen

Add entries to table of figures

[Catherine Heyrendt]

It is possible to add unnumbered entries manually to the table of 
contents:


ERT \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{name of your choice}

Is it possible to add similar entries to the table of figures?

Thanks for any help!

Links partnership request to http://www.mybookmarks.com

[Edward Taylor]

Hello, 
My name is Edward Taylor, and I want to propose you triangle (three way 
linking) link exchange.
I can place your link on the one of the following home pages:
http://pharma.nieruchomosci.pl  (PR=6)
http://rx.auto.pl  (PR=5)

Page where you place my link must meet next requirements:

1. Page Rank of the page is not less than Page Rank of our Page - 1 
2. Your page is not the page in site link directory 
3. If your page has less PR than PR of our page, then you page must be home 
page.
4. Your page must contain not more than 15 outbound links. 

Here is my linking info:
a href=http://www.phentermine-information.us; 
alt=PhenterminePhentermine/a

Waiting for your decision, and responce.
Regards, Edward Taylor.

Re: Add entries to table of figures

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Catherine Heyrendt wrote:
 ERT \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{name of your choice}

 Is it possible to add similar entries to the table of figures?

Sure. Just use lof instead of toc.

Jürgen

Re: Add entries to table of figures

[Catherine Heyrendt]

Catherine Heyrendt wrote:

ERT \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{name of your choice}

Is it possible to add similar entries to the table of figures?


Sure. Just use lof instead of toc.

Jürgen


It worked very nicely:

\addcontentsline{lof}{figure}{name chosen for figure}

A bit silly of me not to have thought about it. Thank you very much!

Re: Export/View to HTML/Word/OO.Writer not working at all

[Dean O'Connor]

well I have downloaded tex4ht-all.zip from 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/support/TeX4ht/ and unziped it in c:/tex4ht.
Also downloaded the newt4ht.zip 
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/%7Egurari/TeX4ht/fix/newt4ht.zip from 
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/bugfixes.html and unzipped 
it to c:/tex4ht.


I have mod'd the miktex-install.bat to match the current package paths, 
but still get a few errors and warnings.


I have to fiddle around trying to put tex4ht.zip in C:\tex4ht\tex4ht dir.

Still after all this hackery I still get pretty much same errors doing a 
htlatex xypic.tex.


I have yet to try that approach via the setup.exe you said worked. Seems 
a bit over the top to have to install parallel versions of Miktex to 
accomplish this.


I have to take a step back here at say the reason I tried Lyx in the 
first place was basically because my Dad writes books and is constantly 
dueling with formatting hassles with Word.
I also have a biz partner who write mountains of doco in Word and is 
tired of formatting hassles.
So when I discovered Lyx I thought it might be easier for them, as it 
concentrates on structure rather than the hassles with format.


Now this Lyx bundle offers a nice solution, and I still might go with 
it, but I kinda wanted the Export to Word/html as a safety net if people 
required those formats.
I cannot really go thru all this hassle trying to get this install 
completely.


I totally agree with your motto about persistence being the key to 
success, but unfortunately I am going to have to toss the ball back into 
the Lyx team's court on this one and hope they can get full Export 
capability into the bundle.
They advertise you don't have to delve into the Tex world to use their 
product so I am going to hold them to that :) Certainly is an impressive 
product tho.


I will check back regularly to see if there is a clean way to install 
all this tex4ht component for Lyx..


Heaps of thanks for your efforts mate.

Cheers
Dean.



Steve Harris wrote:

Dean O'Connor wrote:




So I guess if I have to get/install tex4ht, where exactly do I get it 
from ???

Obviously, it seems only logical all this be included in the Lyx bundle.

Cheers
Dean.




The thing is that the whole miktex bundle is around 470mb and
the link is to about a 202mb installation of Miktex. Some
things get left out.

You notice that Miktex2.5 is small and doesn't contain
tex4ht.cab in its download.

I uninstalled Miktex2.4 in order to reproduce your error.
The 1.4.2 installer doesn't download the tex4ht package.

Afterwards I reinstalled:
So I used the Miktex setup.exe to download all the 2.4
packages (cabs) to a local repository (miktexfiles). Then
I ran Miktex setup.exe again and chose install from a
local repository (C:\miktexfiles) to C:\texmf using
the defaults and choosing Complete. It is time-consuming
so let it run over lunch.

htlatex works again. I have C:\texmf\miktex\bin in
Windows Path statement. Otherwise I have sent you two
posts with urls for the tex*zip files. That is not
the method I chose, I used the *.cab method.

Good luck,
Stephen

Re: Collect all documents used in a LyX file...revisited

[Georg Baum]

Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 00:35 schrieb Jose' Matos:
 On Friday 14 July 2006 23:06, Curtis Osterhoudt wrote:
       Does anyone have more experience with such programs?
 
       Perhaps I just need to get better organized :)
 
   Could you, please, fill an entry in bugzilla with this request so that 
it 
 does not get forgotten?

Already there: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700


Georg

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Georg Baum]

Am Freitag, 14. Juli 2006 22:55 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
  Jose' == Jose' Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Jose'   Reading the rpm spec file I see there this bit:
 
 Jose' %post ... cd %{_datadir}/lyx  ./configure  /dev/null 21
 Jose' ||:
 
 This in particular should go away.

And it has indeed been removed from our own spec file.

Georg

Re: Collect all documents used in a LyX file...revisited

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 15 July 2006 13:33, Georg Baum wrote:

 Already there: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700

  As soon as finished what I am doing I would like to extend LyX.py to support 
some scripting operations over lyx files.

  One of the other examples that I have in mind (it should be easy) is to get 
the set of words present in a lyx document (I am generalising this to imply 
the file and its slaves).

  This is usefull to construct an index, as Steve (IIRC) said in this list 
sometime ago.

 Georg

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Include .bbl File

[Bo Peng]

Have you tried putting the whole thing inside an ERT inset? That's the first
thing that came to my mind, and it seems like the logical thing to do...


That is what I did. Later on, in an attempt not to mess up the lyx
file, I manually insert .bbl to .tex before I submit the paper (in
.tex format) to the journal office.

Bo

Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

[Nicolás]

Hi!

I have just installed Lyx 1.4.2 using the windows installer (small 
version). After the installation Lyx was not aware of the Tex 
configuartion. That is, Tools-Tex Information provided no info at all. 
I run myself TeXFiles.py and copy the generated files to the right 
place. After that everythings looks fine.


Nicolás

Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

[David Halpern]

Nicolás,
I have the exact same problem. Could you elaborate exactly what you did? How
do your run the texfiles.py file and where should the generated files go?
Thanks.
David


On 7/15/06, Nicolás [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi!

I have just installed Lyx 1.4.2 using the windows installer (small
version). After the installation Lyx was not aware of the Tex
configuartion. That is, Tools-Tex Information provided no info at all.
I run myself TeXFiles.py and copy the generated files to the right
place. After that everythings looks fine.

Nicolás

Open file at last edit pointr

[Gerald Cecil]

Hello,

is there a way to open a file at the last edit point? I could of course
just leave a temporary tag/bookmark and Navigate to it if there isn't
another way. But, then I'd have to remove it later. Developers, would it
make sense otherwise to add a Last Edit tag automatically on save that
would be available at the top of the Navigate tab?
---
Gerald Cecil
Physics  Astronomy UNC-Chapel Hill, NC USA

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Alex wrote:


Dear all,

Thank you for the answers to everybody. I don't want to start an 
avalanche. :)


Thanks for the HW examples, and also for the suggestions.


I'd just like to say that I could work reasonably well on my phd thesis 
(250+ A5-pages) using LyX 1.3.x on a laptop (P3, 300 MHz, 256 MB RAM). 
Note that I'd split it up into four parts (multi-part document) and 
usually worked on the parts separately. It was however quite doable to 
compile the full document. I also usually prevented images from being 
displayed inside the LyX window, but that was really to let me focus on 
the text.


cheers
/Christian

PS. The OS is actually still RedHat 7.3, Gnome and Sawfish as window 
manager. In fact, that's what I'm using to post this from :-)


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Recommended hardware for running LyX (Was: Minimum HW requirement)

[christian . ridderstrom]

The (somewhat) recent discussion on minimum hardware requirements inspired 
me to create this page:


http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/RecommendedHardware

I'm not quite happy with the name yet so that might change if someone 
comes up with a better name. My thinking is that the page should basically 
held a LyX user to know in advance what kind of computer system is needed 
to use LyX for his purpose.


I've added my experience as examples to that page, but it is really only 
based on LyX 1.3 and Linux. I'd therefore be grateful if others would add 
examples from using LyX with 1.4 and on Windows.


When we have more examples, it might be possible to rewrite the page with 
more concise information on what the recommended hardware actually is 
:-)


cheers
Christian

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Re: Open file at last edit pointr

[Bo Peng]

On 7/15/06, Gerald Cecil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

is there a way to open a file at the last edit point?


What you are asking is already in the development branch, along with a
few other session features. I am not quite sure if it will be merged
to the next stable version (1.4.3) but it will certainly be in 1.5.0.

Cheers,
Bo

Re: Wiki idea

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:


Paul A. Rubin wrote:

http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php


Cheers,
Charles


Outstanding!  This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps
someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a
FAQ).


Well, this page
http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links


If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-)


lists that link for ages.


Seriously though.. Paul, as you asked first, could you see if there are 
some words or description you think should be added to that sentence?

Maybe it's just a matter of giving the link a longer description.

/Christian

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Re: Open file at last edit pointr

[Georg Baum]

Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 18:02 schrieb Gerald Cecil:
 Hello,
 
 is there a way to open a file at the last edit point?

That is implemented in the development version that will become 1.5.0.

 I could of course 
 just leave a temporary tag/bookmark and Navigate to it if there isn't
 another way. But, then I'd have to remove it later. Developers, would it
 make sense otherwise to add a Last Edit tag automatically on save that
 would be available at the top of the Navigate tab?

I don't know. If you think it is useful add it at http://bugzilla.lyx.org 
as an enhancement request.


Georg

Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

[Georg Baum]

Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 17:05 schrieb David Halpern:
 Nicolás,
 I have the exact same problem. Could you elaborate exactly what you did? 
How
 do your run the texfiles.py file and where should the generated files go?

If you simply run Tools-TeX information-rescan all should be OK.


Georg

Re: keyboard access to environment selection menu

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Sven Schreiber wrote:

Paul A. Rubin schrieb:


M-p (alt-p) followed by a space opens the environment list.  From there,
repeatedly typing the same letter cycles through all environment names
starting with that letter.



Thanks alot Paul! I looked in the guides and the wiki and couldn't find
it. Is it documented? Otherwise I will put it up on the wiki.

-Sven



I learned it from someone else on the list.  AFAIK, it's not documented 
directly, but I never looked for it.


Sven, thanks for adding the text to
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/FrequentlyUsedShortcuts

cheers
/Christian

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Indexing... (Was: Minimum HW requirement)

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Steve Litt wrote:

By the way, what I did for indexing on Troubleshooting Techniques of 
the Successful Technologist was to run the LyX file through a 
shellscript that split it into individual words and performed a unique 
sort. I came up with less than 1000 words. I then looked at every word, 
decided whether it, or a phrase including it, deserved a place in the 
index, weeding out all the extraneous words. Now armed with a list of 
words, within LyX I searched for all occurrences of each word and tagged 
them. If memory serves me, it took about 2 days to index this book of 
over 100,000 words, and the resulting index was complete and easy to 
use.


This sounds quite effective. I know wiki isn't your style, but maybe we 
could together describe how to do this so that others can also use it?
Primarily I'm thinking of creating a simple example set with a .lyx-file, 
shell script and expected output.


What do you think?

regards
/Christian

PS. As an aside, I did something similar with all formulas in my thesis in 
order to ensure I had a consistent notation. This was actually also very 
useful when creating the list of symbols.


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Re: portable Lyx version: live lyx CD or others?

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006, Robin Green wrote:


On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:57:10 -0700
Michael Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi, MS Office is installed in all public libraries. However I would
like to edit my lyx files in library computer. At home I installed lyx
1.4.2 from scratch to my U-disk, hoping that I can use it on other
machine. Amazingly I can see my lyx files on other computers too.

However (1) I can not produce DVI file. (2) Instant preview of some
math fonts is missing, such as \eta

Live CD on Wiki page would reboot a computer into linux system and
then use Lyx. One can not do this on a public machine though. I think
it is meaningful to produce a portable Lyx, which can be used with
U-disk, CD or DVD. Any suggestions?


I'd just like to say it sounds like a very useful idea although I have no 
suggestions (I've never used LyX on windows).  In addition, it'd be a very 
nice way for people to try LyX without having to install it permanently.


/Christian

--
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Re: Wiki idea

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-)

I guess the question is What can we do to make the wiki a bit more 
transparent? 
(note that this is not directed at you; in this specific case, the people who 
didn't find the answer should investigate and add the links they find 
missing).

Jürgen

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Steve Harris wrote:


Rich Shepard wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Steve Harris wrote:


I think that since pdflatex doesn't use the .eps format this might mean an
automatic conversion of any (mixed) eps files to pdflatex compatible
formats. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought this was done manually.


Hi Steve

The description below is very nice... do you know if it's alread on the 
wiki?  If not, I'd like to add it, although I'm not quite sure where it 
should be added. Any ideas on where?


/C


Well, I think I've read this more than one place.

http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/GF/bibliog/latex/LaTeXtoPDF.html



dvipdfm method

If you don't need PostScript output, you can save a step by going directly 
from DVI to PDF format by using dvipdfm:


  latexdvipdfm
text.tex --- text.dvi --- text.pdf

Once again, the figures must be Encapsulated PS. So you have compact, 
scalable graphics ? with one less step.


--

Pdflatex method

The pdflatex program produces a PDF file directly from the LaTeX source:

 pdflatex
text.tex  text.pdf

That looks pretty painless; but there's a catch. While the previous methods 
employ EPS exclusively as the graphics format, pdflatex won't accept EPS 
directly at all: you have to convert all the graphics to JPEG, PNG, or PDF 
(!) before compiling.


That isn't as bad as it sounds, because EPS can be ?wrapped? with PDF headers 
to become PDF and still have scalable, vector graphics. And JPEG is a compact 
format for photographs, while PNG is a very compact way to store images with 
sharp outlines without introducing compression artifacts.


Regards,
Stephen




--
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Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

[David Halpern]

Georg,
I tried what you suggested but rescanning doesn't help.
David

On 7/15/06, Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 17:05 schrieb David Halpern:
 Nicolás,
 I have the exact same problem. Could you elaborate exactly what you did?
How
 do your run the texfiles.py file and where should the generated files
go?

If you simply run Tools-TeX information-rescan all should be OK.


Georg

Improving the wiki (Was: Wiki idea)

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-)


I guess the question is What can we do to make the wiki a bit more
transparent?


That is a very good question and one that I'd really appreciate some 
useful tips on.


(note that this is not directed at you; in this specific case, the 
people who didn't find the answer should investigate and add the links 
they find missing).


I know, but it's still considerate of you to say so. :-)

The question still remains:

How can we make it easier to find information on the wiki?

Don't be afraid to make suggestions that require changing the structure.
Or how the software operates for that matter.


/Christian

PS. As far as I'm concerned it is perfectly fine to require LyX users to 
read a certain amount of documentation. However, finding what you are 
looking for should be much easier than it is right now.


--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Prouncing LyX - help with sound file

[christian . ridderstrom]

Hi

Juergen has written the page http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Pronunciation that 
explains a bit about how LyX is pronounced. We are however missing sound 
files that examplify how different people, users and developers, actually 
pronounce the word.


Since the developers are busy on more productive work :-), I'd like to ask 
for some volunteers to create a sound examples where the person says 
something like


I prounounce LyX LyX.

or the equivalent in your language. Examples in many languages are 
welcome. Especially as we know it's pronounced differentely. For instance, 
in some languages the word lyx exists naturally, in swedish it means 
luxury.


Sound files isn't my area so I don't know if .wav is better or worse than 
say .mp3. Ideally both I guess?


If you would like to help with this, please don't send sound files to the 
list. Contact me privately instead and I'll get them uploaded and linked 
to properly from the wiki page.


best regards
/Christian

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Re: Prouncing LyX - help with sound file

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Juergen has written the page http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Pronunciation that
explains a bit about how LyX is pronounced. We are however missing sound
files that examplify how different people, users and developers, actually
pronounce the word.


  Having a slow weekend, are we Christian?

  When geeks can't get dates ...

:-)

Rich

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Re: portable Lyx version: live lyx CD or others?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Michael Chen wrote:

I think
it is meaningful to produce a portable Lyx, which can be used with
U-disk, CD or DVD. Any suggestions?


There was a discussion on the list not too long ago about running LyX 
from a flash drive.  You might be able to find it in the GMANE list 
archive.  (Sorry, don't recall the details, and in particular whether 
anyone pulled it off.)  It's also on the Wiki in poll of requested 
features (http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FeaturePoll).  You might want to chime 
in there.


/Paul

Exporting to pdf on windows XP

[Myriam Abramson]

I got an error from acroread that the file was corrupted when trying
to view a Lyx document (Beamer presentation) into pdf using pdflatex.
Any ideas?
-- 
   myriam

Re: beamer.layout on Windows

[Myriam Abramson]

Thanks. It was found finally. The Framesubtitle feature of
beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 
-- 
   myriam

Re: Wiki idea

[Paul A. Rubin]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:


Paul A. Rubin wrote:

http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php


Cheers,
Charles


Outstanding!  This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps
someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a
FAQ).


Well, this page
http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links


If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-)


lists that link for ages.


Seriously though.. Paul, as you asked first, could you see if there are 
some words or description you think should be added to that sentence?

Maybe it's just a matter of giving the link a longer description.

/Christian



Ok, mea culpa, it didn't occur to me to look on the Wiki (since it was a 
BibTeX question, not a LyX question).  That said, my approach to 
researching pretty much anything on the Wiki is to use the search 
facility.  So for me the wording on the links page was sufficient. (It 
might not be a bad idea to organize the links into sections, even though 
there are not that many links, but I'll leave that to someone else.) 
What I did is edit Bibtex/PageList to indicate that the links section 
includes tips on styles.  This is (the page list) the first page I would 
check after searching on bibtex, and I would give links a low 
priority since they could be links to anything.  Short of devoting a 
separate page to how to pick a bibtex style, I think this is as much 
as we can do.


On the general question of making the wiki more transparent, I think 
it's in pretty good shape as it is.  To me, the higher priority is to 
get people looking at the wiki in the first place, and secondarily to 
let them know that it includes more than just information about LyX.  To 
that end, I wonder if (down the road) some enterprising developer might 
put a link to the wiki in the LyX help menu?


/Paul

Re: Prouncing LyX - help with sound file

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Juergen has written the page http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Pronunciation that
explains a bit about how LyX is pronounced. We are however missing sound
files that examplify how different people, users and developers, actually
pronounce the word.


 Having a slow weekend, are we Christian?


I wish.. catching up on on 1200 posts on various lists is a bit tough... 
my eyes are probably square right now. Shouldn't complain though... that's 
what you get after two weeks vacation :-)



 When geeks can't get dates ...


Sort of true actually, as my girlfriend went off on her own today [*] I've 
spent the rest of the day doing mail. Now I'm finally done!


Anyway, I'm certainly a geek since I actually look forward to using the 
next 2-3 days trying to fix some wiki-related stuff. Perhaps re-organizing 
and/or structuring the FAQ pages. It's been a while since I had time for 
hobbies.


The pronounciation bit is pretty interesting though...

I suspect that the sound snippet where Linus Torvalds pronounces linux 
helped promote linux quite a bit...


It is also interesting how you Americans usually can't hear the difference 
between the vowel sound Swedes/Norwegians make when pronouncing LyX 
compared to eg licks.


cheers
/Christian

[* ] The advantage with a long vacation is that first you can go away with 
your significant other and then you can also get some playtime on your 
own. In a few days I'll be off to see Vienna and Innsbruck in Austria :-)


Now, let me think... in the US you typically have... what.. two weeks?

;-)

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Re: Exporting to pdf on windows XP

[Paul A. Rubin]

Myriam Abramson wrote:

I got an error from acroread that the file was corrupted when trying
to view a Lyx document (Beamer presentation) into pdf using pdflatex.
Any ideas?


Maybe a graphic didn't convert properly?  If it repeats, can you post 
the culprit (including any images), or a minimal subset of it that glitches?


/Paul

Re: Export/View to HTML/Word/OO.Writer not working at all

[Steve Harris]

Dean O'Connor wrote:


well I have downloaded tex4ht-all.zip from 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/support/TeX4ht/ and unziped it in 
c:/tex4ht.
Also downloaded the newt4ht.zip 
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/%7Egurari/TeX4ht/fix/newt4ht.zip from 
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/bugfixes.html and unzipped 
it to c:/tex4ht.


I have mod'd the miktex-install.bat to match the current package paths, 
but still get a few errors and warnings.


I have to fiddle around trying to put tex4ht.zip in C:\tex4ht\tex4ht dir.

Still after all this hackery I still get pretty much same errors doing a 
htlatex xypic.tex.


I have yet to try that approach via the setup.exe you said worked. Seems 
a bit over the top to have to install parallel versions of Miktex to 
accomplish this.


I have to take a step back here at say the reason I tried Lyx in the 
first place was basically because my Dad writes books and is constantly 
dueling with formatting hassles with Word.
I also have a biz partner who write mountains of doco in Word and is 
tired of formatting hassles.
So when I discovered Lyx I thought it might be easier for them, as it 
concentrates on structure rather than the hassles with format.


Now this Lyx bundle offers a nice solution, and I still might go with 
it, but I kinda wanted the Export to Word/html as a safety net if people 
required those formats.
I cannot really go thru all this hassle trying to get this install 
completely.


I totally agree with your motto about persistence being the key to 
success, but unfortunately I am going to have to toss the ball back into 
the Lyx team's court on this one and hope they can get full Export 
capability into the bundle.
They advertise you don't have to delve into the Tex world to use their 
product so I am going to hold them to that :) Certainly is an impressive 
product tho.


I will check back regularly to see if there is a clean way to install 
all this tex4ht component for Lyx..


Heaps of thanks for your efforts mate.

Cheers
Dean.




I took a look at that tex4ht zip installation page. It should
never be recommended to a Windows user migrating to LyX and
who has chosen the AllinOne installer to avoid abstruse docs.

http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn.html
To be installed, the system needs a port made up of native
utilities of TeX4ht and of non-native utilities. The easiest
way to establish an up to date port is to download an installed 
distribution of the system, and refresh it with the files

provided here. Eitan M. Gurari

So if you have a Miktex installation directory with Tex4ht
installed from the cab files it uses, you will find that
Tex4ht is installed to (default)C:\texmf\tex4ht and that
the helper files are mixed in with C:\texmf\miktex\bin
That provides a model for where your upgrading files go.
C:\texmf\miktex\bin has no spaces and should be in the PATH.

From the zip file method of Tex4ht installation webpage:
# Where do you want to put the TeX4ht files? I recommend
that you put them in c:\tex4ht, but you can change this
(eg, by putting them onto drive D). Your choice must not
contain spaces, though.

# Where do you want to put the batch files? Your choice
must be in your path. One suggestion is to put them with
MiKTeX’s (and TeX4ht’s) binaries, which by assumption is
a folder already in your path.

SH: Along with filling out a fairly complicated miktex-
install.bat, I think those instructions could confuse a
new user, who by definition isn't env. variable aware.

I think the solution isn't to point to a manual method.
The automatic solution is to include the tex4ht package
in the default Miktex install that LyX employs. Or if
that is hard to implement, include it like the Bakoma
fonts. LyX has Html as a viewer option. LyX generates

From python configure.py
checking for a LaTeX - HTML converter...
+checking for htlatex...   yes

Why have the html converter process if it doesn't
write the result to Preferences-converters? It
used to do that. Perhaps it isn't intentional but
falls in this category: Tex Information doesn't
display even with a rescan:

Nicolás: ...run TeXFiles.py and copy the generated files to
the right place. [SH: C:\LyX\LyX14\Resources , in my case]

Why run a process to find a html converter when the result
isn't supported like the other options with a download of
the files that make the converter work? Maybe the checking
just looks for htlatex.exe which isn't enough. For some
reason, htlatex.exe and the tex4ht package which includes the
support files for htlatex.exe come in two different packages.

The new user sees html view or html export, but it doesn't
work. He discovers that it is a bug (at least in Windows).
So he a workaround using htlatex foo.tex from the command
line to make foo.html. How is the new user to know that when
he reads this bug has been fixed, that he still needs to
download a zip file, or use Miktex Update Wizared (in this
case May,2006) because this package is treated uniquely.
I 

Re: beamer.layout on Windows

[Paul A. Rubin]

Myriam Abramson wrote:

The Framesubtitle feature of
beamer.layout does not seem to exist on Windows though. That's odd. 


Should it?  (Meaning, does it exist as an environment in Linux?)  You 
can enter a frame subtitle by putting \framesubtitle{blah blah blah} in 
ERT as the first thing in the frame title.


/Paul

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Steve Harris]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Steve Harris wrote:


Rich Shepard wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Steve Harris wrote:

I think that since pdflatex doesn't use the .eps format this might 
mean an

automatic conversion of any (mixed) eps files to pdflatex compatible
formats. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought this was done manually.


Hi Steve

The description below is very nice... do you know if it's alread on the 
wiki?  If not, I'd like to add it, although I'm not quite sure where it 
should be added. Any ideas on where?


/C


Well, I think I've read this more than one place.

http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/GF/bibliog/latex/LaTeXtoPDF.html



dvipdfm method

If you don't need PostScript output, you can save a step by going 
directly from DVI to PDF format by using dvipdfm:


  latex   dvipdfm
text.tex --- text.dvi --- text.pdf

Once again, the figures must be Encapsulated PS. So you have compact, 
scalable graphics ? with one less step.


--

Pdflatex method

The pdflatex program produces a PDF file directly from the LaTeX source:

 pdflatex
text.tex  text.pdf

That looks pretty painless; but there's a catch. While the previous 
methods employ EPS exclusively as the graphics format, pdflatex won't 
accept EPS directly at all: you have to convert all the graphics to 
JPEG, PNG, or PDF (!) before compiling.


That isn't as bad as it sounds, because EPS can be ?wrapped? with PDF 
headers to become PDF and still have scalable, vector graphics. And 
JPEG is a compact format for photographs, while PNG is a very compact 
way to store images with sharp outlines without introducing 
compression artifacts.


Regards,
Stephen







Hello Chris!

I did a search on dvipdfm and found this under Change Tracking
for LyX 1.3: When enabled, any edits made to a document are tracked. 
Deleted text is marked in red and struck through, whilst added text

is marked in blue; in addition a changebar is added to the margin.
With the dvipost software installed, such marks can even be exported
to PostScript and PDF (the latter, however, only with ps2pdf and 
dvipdfm; pdflatex does not work).


Why do you suppose pdflatex doesn't work? Which brings me to
indexical software. I was impressed with Steve Litt's indexing
method, which is why I was careful not to be too skeptical of
his remark than an efficacious menu driven layout tool was a
feasible idea. Indexing is one step closer to AI than grammar
checking which needs to capture meaning to some extent.

Anyway if he writes up his method and is willing to answer
questions, I'll do the first draft for the Wiki and make it
look fairly nice. Then you two can review and polish it.
Explaining how to use the script will likely not be short.

To answer your question, I think that the Pdf FAQ is a good
place, for example:
The fonts are bad in the exported PDF, what can I do?

That material may be copyrighted so maybe? a description
and a link. My usage is called fair use however a
permanent display of the entire webpage might require the
author's permisssion. The matter is at your discretion.
Also I don't know when it was written and how far LyX's
automatic conversion extends, meaning I don't know how
Rich used .eps images only with pdflatex.

Regards,
Stephen

RE: Export/View to HTML/Word/OO.Writer not working at all

[Jack M. Lyon]

Dean O'Connor wrote:

 I have to take a step back here at say the reason I tried Lyx in the 
 first place was basically because my Dad writes books and is 
 constantly 
 dueling with formatting hassles with Word.
 I also have a biz partner who write mountains of doco in Word and is 
 tired of formatting hassles.
 So when I discovered Lyx I thought it might be easier for them, as it 
 concentrates on structure rather than the hassles with format.

If they really *have* to use Word but want to concentrate on structure
rather than formatting, they might find my Author Tools template useful
(created for MS Word but inspired by LyX). Click here to download:

http://www.editorium.com/ftp/authortemplate.zip

Feel free to pass it around. And if you have questions, holler.

Thanks!

Best wishes,
Jack M. Lyon
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 Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 4:43 AM
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 lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: Re: Export/View to HTML/Word/OO.Writer not working at all
 
 
 
 well I have downloaded tex4ht-all.zip from 
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/support/TeX4ht/ and unziped 
 it in c:/tex4ht.
 Also downloaded the newt4ht.zip 
 http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/%7Egurari/TeX4ht/fix/newt4ht.zip from 
 http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/bugfixes.html 
 and unzipped 
 it to c:/tex4ht.
 
 I have mod'd the miktex-install.bat to match the current 
 package paths, 
 but still get a few errors and warnings.
 
 I have to fiddle around trying to put tex4ht.zip in 
 C:\tex4ht\tex4ht dir.
 
 Still after all this hackery I still get pretty much same 
 errors doing a 
 htlatex xypic.tex.
 
 I have yet to try that approach via the setup.exe you said 
 worked. Seems 
 a bit over the top to have to install parallel versions of Miktex to 
 accomplish this.
 
 I have to take a step back here at say the reason I tried Lyx in the 
 first place was basically because my Dad writes books and is 
 constantly 
 dueling with formatting hassles with Word.
 I also have a biz partner who write mountains of doco in Word and is 
 tired of formatting hassles.
 So when I discovered Lyx I thought it might be easier for them, as it 
 concentrates on structure rather than the hassles with format.
 
 Now this Lyx bundle offers a nice solution, and I still might go with 
 it, but I kinda wanted the Export to Word/html as a safety 
 net if people 
 required those formats.
 I cannot really go thru all this hassle trying to get this install 
 completely.
 
 I totally agree with your motto about persistence being the key to 
 success, but unfortunately I am going to have to toss the 
 ball back into 
 the Lyx team's court on this one and hope they can get full Export 
 capability into the bundle.
 They advertise you don't have to delve into the Tex world to 
 use their 
 product so I am going to hold them to that :) Certainly is an 
 impressive 
 product tho.
 
 I will check back regularly to see if there is a clean way to install 
 all this tex4ht component for Lyx..
 
 Heaps of thanks for your efforts mate.
 
 Cheers
 Dean.
 
 
 
 Steve Harris wrote:
  Dean O'Connor wrote:
 
 
  So I guess if I have to get/install tex4ht, where exactly 
 do I get it 
  from ???
  Obviously, it seems only logical all this be included in 
 the Lyx bundle.
 
  Cheers
  Dean.
 
 
 
  The thing is that the whole miktex bundle is around 470mb and
  the link is to about a 202mb installation of Miktex. Some
  things get left out.
 
  You notice that Miktex2.5 is small and doesn't contain
  tex4ht.cab in its download.
 
  I uninstalled Miktex2.4 in order to reproduce your error.
  The 1.4.2 installer doesn't download the tex4ht package.
 
  Afterwards I reinstalled:
  So I used the Miktex setup.exe to download all the 2.4
  packages (cabs) to a local repository (miktexfiles). Then
  I ran Miktex setup.exe again and chose install from a
  local repository (C:\miktexfiles) to C:\texmf using
  the defaults and choosing Complete. It is time-consuming
  so let it run over lunch.
 
  htlatex works again. I have C:\texmf\miktex\bin in
  Windows Path statement. Otherwise I have sent you two
  posts with urls for the tex*zip files. That is not
  the method I chose, I used the *.cab method.
 
  Good luck,
  Stephen
 
 

Noweb on windows?

[Mark Engelberg]

Is there any literate programming support in LyX on Windows?

Thanks,

Mark

Re: Include .bbl File

[Daniel Watkins]

Bruce Pourciau wrote:
> I used BibDesk to create the bib file. Can I use BibDesk to make a
> bbl file from the bib file? And once I have the bbl file, can I
> include that bbl file directly into my LyX document? Otherwise, if I
> have to paste the bbl file into the exported TeX file, then my LyX
> file and TeX file will no longer correspond.

Hi Bruce,

Have you tried putting the whole thing inside an ERT inset? That's the first
thing that came to my mind, and it seems like the logical thing to do...

Dan

Re: Export/View to HTML/Word/OO.Writer not working at all

[Dean O'Connor]

yeah I came across that link (below) before and actually had a stab at 
trying to get tex4ht, but unfortunately the link in section 3.2 for the 
install gives me a "server not found" error !!

http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/support/tex4ht.html

Then down in section 6 where you setup tex4ht there is a link to 
tex4ht-miktex-install.zip 
 
which I can get, but it doesn't contain any htlatex.bat.
There is a miktex-install.bat but it requires I have the tex4ht 
installed in the first place !! I can see it will create a htlatex.bat 
from the .tab file there.
I tried copying the htlatexp.tab to my miktex bin and rename it to 
htlatex.bat, then running "htlatex xypic.tex". Lots of scrolling message 
and left at a latex prompt, but still no go. Also warnings about not 
finding tex4ht.env.


But I see that in my C:\texmf\miktex\bin most of the tex4ht stuff is 
already there (from bundle install). Well the tex4ht.exe anyways :) So 
it does seem that tex4ht stuff is already included in the bundle, 
just maybe not completely 


Steve, with the  htlatex.bat you sent me, I get "! LaTeX Error: File 
`tex4ht.sty' not found." error.


So I guess if I have to get/install tex4ht, where exactly do I get it 
from ???

Obviously, it seems only logical all this be included in the Lyx bundle.

Cheers
Dean.


Steve Harris wrote:


About a problem originally reported on the User list.
The html viewer option and export option usually
handled by htlatex doesn't work in LyX Windows XP.

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

I don't see a directory for tex4ht on the path (unless I'm missing it).



Dean: Any ideas ?



Paul:
Did you download and install tex4ht?  (There are instructions for 
MiKTeX users at 
http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/support/tex4ht.html.)  
The htlatex.bat file is part of the installation, in root>\bin\win32\.


/Paul




A missing tex4ht package is confirmed as the problem.
I just tried the new 1.4.2 installer and it downloads
Miktex with an htlatex.exe file, but not the rest of it.

I reproduced the same error message as Dean earlier:

C:\texmf\miktex\bin>htlatex splash.tex
htlatex: the batch script could not be found.

In earlier versions of LyX, the installation searched
for an Html converter and under Preferences one could
usually find Latex -> HTML with htlatex listed/chosen.

This new installer apparently doesn't search for an html
converter although Html is still listed as a Viewer option.
I tried with tex4ht installed and the new 1.4.2 Win installer.

Since htlatex export never seems to have worked in WinLyX I
don't know that a solution would be for the new installer
to include tex4ht in its default download and installation
of Miktex when Miktex is missing. Htlatex would then work
from the command line without new users having to figure
out they needed to install another package too. I was
surprised that the default installation includes just
htlatex.exe but not the rest of the package.

I like the new installer.

Thank you,
Stephen

Add entries to table of figures

[Catherine Heyrendt]

It is possible to add unnumbered entries manually to the table of 
contents:


ERT \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{name of your choice}

Is it possible to add similar entries to the table of figures?

Thanks for any help!

Links partnership request to http://www.mybookmarks.com

[Edward Taylor]

Hello, 
My name is Edward Taylor, and I want to propose you triangle (three way 
linking) link exchange.
I can place your link on the one of the following home pages:
http://pharma.nieruchomosci.pl  (PR=6)
http://rx.auto.pl  (PR=5)

Page where you place my link must meet next requirements:

1. Page Rank of the page is not less than Page Rank of our Page - 1 
2. Your page is not the page in site link directory 
3. If your page has less PR than PR of our page, then you page must be home 
page.
4. Your page must contain not more than 15 outbound links. 

Here is my linking info:
http://www.phentermine-information.us; 
alt="Phentermine">Phentermine

Waiting for your decision, and responce.
Regards, Edward Taylor.

Re: Add entries to table of figures

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Catherine Heyrendt wrote:
> ERT \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{name of your choice}
>
> Is it possible to add similar entries to the table of figures?

Sure. Just use "lof" instead of "toc".

Jürgen

Re: Add entries to table of figures

[Catherine Heyrendt]

Catherine Heyrendt wrote:

ERT \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{name of your choice}

Is it possible to add similar entries to the table of figures?


Sure. Just use "lof" instead of "toc".

Jürgen


It worked very nicely:

\addcontentsline{lof}{figure}{name chosen for figure}

A bit silly of me not to have thought about it. Thank you very much!

Re: Export/View to HTML/Word/OO.Writer not working at all

[Dean O'Connor]

well I have downloaded tex4ht-all.zip from 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/support/TeX4ht/ and unziped it in c:/tex4ht.
Also downloaded the newt4ht.zip 
 from 
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/bugfixes.html and unzipped 
it to c:/tex4ht.


I have mod'd the miktex-install.bat to match the current package paths, 
but still get a few errors and warnings.


I have to fiddle around trying to put tex4ht.zip in C:\tex4ht\tex4ht dir.

Still after all this hackery I still get pretty much same errors doing a 
"htlatex xypic.tex".


I have yet to try that approach via the setup.exe you said worked. Seems 
a bit over the top to have to install parallel versions of Miktex to 
accomplish this.


I have to take a step back here at say the reason I tried Lyx in the 
first place was basically because my Dad writes books and is constantly 
dueling with formatting hassles with Word.
I also have a biz partner who write mountains of doco in Word and is 
tired of formatting hassles.
So when I discovered Lyx I thought it might be easier for them, as it 
concentrates on structure rather than the hassles with format.


Now this Lyx bundle offers a nice solution, and I still might go with 
it, but I kinda wanted the Export to Word/html as a safety net if people 
required those formats.
I cannot really go thru all this hassle trying to get this install 
completely.


I totally agree with your motto about persistence being the key to 
success, but unfortunately I am going to have to toss the ball back into 
the Lyx team's court on this one and hope they can get full Export 
capability into the bundle.
They advertise you don't have to delve into the Tex world to use their 
product so I am going to hold them to that :) Certainly is an impressive 
product tho.


I will check back regularly to see if there is a clean way to install 
all this tex4ht component for Lyx..


Heaps of thanks for your efforts mate.

Cheers
Dean.



Steve Harris wrote:

Dean O'Connor wrote:




So I guess if I have to get/install tex4ht, where exactly do I get it 
from ???

Obviously, it seems only logical all this be included in the Lyx bundle.

Cheers
Dean.




The thing is that the whole miktex bundle is around 470mb and
the link is to about a 202mb installation of Miktex. Some
things get left out.

You notice that Miktex2.5 is small and doesn't contain
tex4ht.cab in its download.

I uninstalled Miktex2.4 in order to reproduce your error.
The 1.4.2 installer doesn't download the tex4ht package.

Afterwards I reinstalled:
So I used the Miktex setup.exe to download all the 2.4
packages (cabs) to a local repository (miktexfiles). Then
I ran Miktex setup.exe again and chose install from a
local repository (C:\miktexfiles) to C:\texmf using
the defaults and choosing Complete. It is time-consuming
so let it run over lunch.

htlatex works again. I have C:\texmf\miktex\bin in
Windows Path statement. Otherwise I have sent you two
posts with urls for the tex*zip files. That is not
the method I chose, I used the *.cab method.

Good luck,
Stephen

Re: Collect all documents used in a LyX file...revisited

[Georg Baum]

Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 00:35 schrieb Jose' Matos:
> On Friday 14 July 2006 23:06, Curtis Osterhoudt wrote:
> >      Does anyone have more experience with such programs?
> >
> >      Perhaps I just need to get better organized :)
> 
>   Could you, please, fill an entry in bugzilla with this request so that 
it 
> does not get forgotten?

Already there: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700


Georg

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Georg Baum]

Am Freitag, 14. Juli 2006 22:55 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
> > "Jose'" == Jose' Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jose'>   Reading the rpm spec file I see there this bit:
> 
> Jose'> %post ... cd %{_datadir}/lyx && ./configure > /dev/null 2>&1
> Jose'> ||:
> 
> This in particular should go away.

And it has indeed been removed from our own spec file.

Georg

Re: Collect all documents used in a LyX file...revisited

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 15 July 2006 13:33, Georg Baum wrote:
>
> Already there: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700

  As soon as finished what I am doing I would like to extend LyX.py to support 
some scripting operations over lyx files.

  One of the other examples that I have in mind (it should be easy) is to get 
the set of words present in a lyx document (I am generalising this to imply 
the file and its slaves).

  This is usefull to construct an index, as Steve (IIRC) said in this list 
sometime ago.

> Georg

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Include .bbl File

[Bo Peng]

Have you tried putting the whole thing inside an ERT inset? That's the first
thing that came to my mind, and it seems like the logical thing to do...


That is what I did. Later on, in an attempt not to mess up the lyx
file, I manually insert .bbl to .tex before I submit the paper (in
.tex format) to the journal office.

Bo

Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

[Nicolás]

Hi!

I have just installed Lyx 1.4.2 using the windows installer (small 
version). After the installation Lyx was not aware of the Tex 
configuartion. That is, Tools->Tex Information provided no info at all. 
I run myself TeXFiles.py and copy the generated files to the right 
place. After that everythings looks fine.


Nicolás

Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

[David Halpern]

Nicolás,
I have the exact same problem. Could you elaborate exactly what you did? How
do your run the texfiles.py file and where should the generated files go?
Thanks.
David


On 7/15/06, Nicolás <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi!

I have just installed Lyx 1.4.2 using the windows installer (small
version). After the installation Lyx was not aware of the Tex
configuartion. That is, Tools->Tex Information provided no info at all.
I run myself TeXFiles.py and copy the generated files to the right
place. After that everythings looks fine.

Nicolás

Open file at last edit pointr

[Gerald Cecil]

Hello,

is there a way to open a file at the last edit point? I could of course
just leave a temporary tag/bookmark and Navigate to it if there isn't
another way. But, then I'd have to remove it later. Developers, would it
make sense otherwise to add a "Last Edit" tag automatically on save that
would be available at the top of the Navigate tab?
---
Gerald Cecil
Physics & Astronomy UNC-Chapel Hill, NC USA

Re: Minimum HW requirement

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Alex wrote:


Dear all,

Thank you for the answers to everybody. I don't want to start an 
avalanche. :)


Thanks for the HW examples, and also for the suggestions.


I'd just like to say that I could work reasonably well on my phd thesis 
(250+ A5-pages) using LyX 1.3.x on a laptop (P3, 300 MHz, 256 MB RAM). 
Note that I'd split it up into four parts (multi-part document) and 
usually worked on the parts separately. It was however quite doable to 
compile the full document. I also usually prevented images from being 
displayed inside the LyX window, but that was really to let me focus on 
the text.


cheers
/Christian

PS. The OS is actually still RedHat 7.3, Gnome and Sawfish as window 
manager. In fact, that's what I'm using to post this from :-)


--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Recommended hardware for running LyX (Was: Minimum HW requirement)

[christian . ridderstrom]

The (somewhat) recent discussion on minimum hardware requirements inspired 
me to create this page:


http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/RecommendedHardware

I'm not quite happy with the name yet so that might change if someone 
comes up with a better name. My thinking is that the page should basically 
held a LyX user to know in advance what kind of computer system is needed 
to use LyX for his purpose.


I've added my experience as examples to that page, but it is really only 
based on LyX 1.3 and Linux. I'd therefore be grateful if others would add 
examples from using LyX with 1.4 and on Windows.


When we have more examples, it might be possible to rewrite the page with 
more concise information on what the "recommended hardware" actually is 
:-)


cheers
Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Open file at last edit pointr

[Bo Peng]

On 7/15/06, Gerald Cecil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

is there a way to open a file at the last edit point?


What you are asking is already in the development branch, along with a
few other session features. I am not quite sure if it will be merged
to the next stable version (1.4.3) but it will certainly be in 1.5.0.

Cheers,
Bo

Re: Wiki idea

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:


Paul A. Rubin wrote:

http://jo.irisson.free.fr/bstdatabase/index.php


Cheers,
Charles


Outstanding!  This obviates the need for a wiki page (although perhaps
someone should link this site on the wiki, since this could turn into a
FAQ).


Well, this page
http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Links


If this page points to the answer, what's the question... 42? ;-)


lists that link for ages.


Seriously though.. Paul, as you asked first, could you see if there are 
some words or description you think should be added to that sentence?

Maybe it's just a matter of giving the link a longer description.

/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Open file at last edit pointr

[Georg Baum]

Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 18:02 schrieb Gerald Cecil:
> Hello,
> 
> is there a way to open a file at the last edit point?

That is implemented in the development version that will become 1.5.0.

> I could of course 
> just leave a temporary tag/bookmark and Navigate to it if there isn't
> another way. But, then I'd have to remove it later. Developers, would it
> make sense otherwise to add a "Last Edit" tag automatically on save that
> would be available at the top of the Navigate tab?

I don't know. If you think it is useful add it at http://bugzilla.lyx.org 
as an enhancement request.


Georg

Re: Small problem with Lyx142 windows installer

[Georg Baum]

Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2006 17:05 schrieb David Halpern:
> Nicolás,
> I have the exact same problem. Could you elaborate exactly what you did? 
How
> do your run the texfiles.py file and where should the generated files go?

If you simply run Tools->TeX information->rescan all should be OK.


Georg