Re: long-time LyX user needs install help on Mac OSX 10.4.8

2007-01-11 Thread Georg Baum
Jens Noeckel wrote:

 Assuming you got the dvipdfmx package from fink, too: the error is
 probably due to the entry \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} which is
 inserted into the LaTeX preamble by LyX without asking or telling
 you. It's a good idea to have that when using pdflatex, which I use
 almost exclusively. But still: I think this practice of stealthily
 slipping in extraneous code is not a good philosophy on the part of LyX.

I don't know when the fontenc package is needed, but whether it is used or
not can be configured in the preferences. Just enter default as font
encoding, and LyX will not output this line.


Georg



Re: problème avec lyx1.4.2

2007-01-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 blondot == blondot bernard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

blondot Le sytème copier couper coller semble fonctionner assez mal
blondot en tout cas bien plus mal que dans les anciennes versions ,
blondot est ce du à un bogue ou à defaut de configuration , il en est
blondot de même des fonctions annuler et refaire . 

Qu'est-ce qui marche mal?

blondot Les aides proposées ne sont pas d' une grande utilité car ne
blondot correspondent pas à la version actuelle de lyx . 

On y travaille :) Ça sera mieux dans la version 1.4.4.

blondot Dans le menu editer math ( quand on est en mode math ) à quoi
blondot sert l' option logiciel de calcul formel ? j'ai essayé avec
blondot maxima mais cela n' a rien donné et ce n' est pas le fichier
blondot d' aide qui peut me donner une réponse

Je ne crois pas que ce soit documenté en effet :( Normalement, cela
permet d'exécuter un calcul et de le remplacer par sont résultat. Je
n'ai jamais essayé moi-même... (le support de maxima sera aussi
amélioré dans la version 1.4.4)

JMarc


Re: Mysql

2007-01-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

To: LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
From: Daniel Culver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mysql
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:40:36 -0800

Hi,
I am thinking about using Lyx for some documents that need to include  
output from a Mysql database. Does anyone have any advise about the  
best way to proceed.

It depends of the kind of doc you mean

If it's just patching data
in a LyX doc (a teable, e.g.), it's quite simple to write
a script which creates the tex code in a file, e.g. mytable.tex
and \input{mytable}

If you want to fill in a template with various data,
here is what I do (it's not Mysql, it's from Internet
forms, but it must work the same).

 1/on the LyX side,
 - insert variable info as latex commands, i.e. if you want
 to get the name, type in ERT \dbname, \dbaddress, etc. at the desired location.
 - create a tex file, say data_ref.tex where these commands are defined
 with typical values
\newcommand{\dbname}{your_name}
\newcommand{\dbaddress}{your_address}
...
 - \input{data_ref} in your preamble and check that the LyX output is correct
 - touch an empty data.tex file and \input{data} after \input{data_ref} in the 
preamble

  2/ on the mySQl side
 - create a script, say extract_data.sh, extract_data.pl (perl is great for 
this)
  or whatever interpreter which extracts the variables your_name, 
your_address...
 and writes out to file data.tex like this:
\renewcommand{\dbname}{your_name}
\renewcommand{\dbaddress}{your_address}
... 
 - check that lyx -e dvi foo.lyx is OK;
 - do whatever needed to automate extraction and lyx compilation for various 
sets of data.
 
 You see that's just one method (among others I guess) to produce a mailing.
 
It's easy to fill in forms with this:
 - get the eps of the empty form
 - define all needed commands to patch data in the form
 - open xfig, place the eps picture
 - with the special flag set, type in all commands at their locations,
 - insert the xfig file as external material in the lyx doc,
 - if the pstex_t or pdftex_t file needs editing (the choice of combinations of 
fonts is not 
complete in xfig) you may revert to explicit \input of pstex_t or pdftex_t, and
 fiddle with the family, shape, etc definitions to get what you want.
 
HTH

-- 
Jean-Pierre

  
 
 



Re: [update] Re: fancyhdr! It's working. BUT 3 questions ...

2007-01-11 Thread Helge Hafting

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

Still haven't found a useful list yet But it was during this search
that I tripped over instructions to use the TeX icon to insert ERTs 
so I'm glad I went there...


I'd still like to find a good index/list of values that can be inserted
to the header, footer (and/or I suspect inside the document body via
ERTs) But you've given me enough to make me sure that I can use lyx for
most of my writing needs. Now I can focus mostly on my writing,
confident that I'll like letting lyx take care of MOST of the
typesetting details...
  

Well, I don't know any such lists.  The problem is, you can put
just about any latex command in the header. (Well, a page
break would be really stupid, but anything that produce
a small amount of output would work in a header.) 


There are thousands of latex commands, so it is hard to make
a complete list.  That's why I suggested a latex manual,
they list everything and you can pick what you want.
Latex really is a programming language aimed at typesetting.
There are a few good manuals. You can look up anything,
from simple stuff like getting a page number or section name
in the header, all the way to complicated stuff like
programming an entire new latex add-on package.

Now, if you want some specific thing in your header, such as
date, filename, or the page number in roman numerals - just ask.


Helge Hafting


Re: long-time LyX user needs install help on Mac OSX 10.4.8

2007-01-11 Thread Jens Noeckel


On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:06 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Jens Noeckel wrote:


Assuming you got the dvipdfmx package from fink, too: the error is
probably due to the entry \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} which is
inserted into the LaTeX preamble by LyX without asking or telling
you. It's a good idea to have that when using pdflatex, which I use
almost exclusively. But still: I think this practice of stealthily
slipping in extraneous code is not a good philosophy on the part  
of LyX.


I don't know when the fontenc package is needed, but whether it is  
used or

not can be configured in the preferences. Just enter default as font
encoding, and LyX will not output this line.



Why not just make those kind of entries visible when the user opens
DocumentSettingsPreamble? The preamble that is shown to the
user is completely empty for a new file, but the exported latex has  
additional
lines in the preamble. Makes it really hard to debug latex problems  
if you

don't know about this. One could perhaps put preamble entries that come
from the Output Settings in a different color (maybe even grayed  
out), but

still let them show up in the preamble.

Jens



Re: Spacing changes in the Memoir class (Solved for now)

2007-01-11 Thread Eran Kaplinsky
Peter Wilson, the author of Memoir, e-mailed me with the solution. 
Props, and thanks for your time, Peter!


EK


Peter Wilson wrote:


I don't have, or use, Lyx so i can't test anything with it.
 
If you have just

\documentclass[...]{memoir}
%%\usepackage{setspace} with or without this
 
then you have to use memoir's line spacing commands (e.g. 
\begin{Spacing}{1} instead of \begin{spacing}{1}). (I tried this with 
your example redefinition of the quote environment and it worked.)
 
   If you have

\documentclass[...]{memoir}
\DisemulatePackage{setspace}
\usepackage{setspace}
 
then you have to use setspace's line spacing commands (e.g., 
\begin{spacing}{1} --- your quote environment example worked following 
\DisemulatePackage{setspace*}).*
 
You can't mix the two sets of commands/environments.
 
Memoir's implementation of the line spacing commands is a little 
different than setspace's, resulting sometimes in different spacing; 
in particular memoir's version eliminates some extra space that might 
occur near/around display material. In one case just calling 
\usepackage{setspace} had the result of insering a large space on one 
page and moving about 6 or 8 lines to the following page even though 
no spacing commands were used; this did not happen with memoir's 
implementation. As the results might be different I choose to use 
different names, but \DisemulatePackage{setspace} gives you the 
opportunity to pick which set you want to use.
 
Peter W.


Eran Kaplinsky wrote:

The memoir class has been recently updated (Dec. 11) and changes have 
been made to spacing commands.


As a result, a LyX document using the class will produce errors if 
paragraph spacing is defined through the EditParagraph menu.


For example, if your document is one-half spaced, but you'd like to 
single space specific content, you will get an environment undefined 
LateX error.


Furthermore, documents using a custom quote style from the memman.pdf 
won't work. For example:



\makeatletter
\renewenvironment{quote}
  {\begin{spacing}{1}\list{}{\rightmargin\leftmargin}%
  \footnotesize\item\relax}
  {\endlist\end{spacing}\noindent\hspace{-0.333em}}
\makeatother


The first problem can be overcome by keeping all paragraphs with 
default spacing, and using ERT commands on a separate line, e.g.,  
\SingleSpacing \OnehalfSpacing -- but I don't know what do about 
custom spacing (say, half a cm) or the custom quote style.




Best,

EK


Re: long-time LyX user needs install help on Mac OSX 10.4.8

2007-01-11 Thread Georg Baum
Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 16:52 schrieb Jens Noeckel:
 Why not just make those kind of entries visible when the user opens
 DocumentSettingsPreamble? The preamble that is shown to the
 user is completely empty for a new file, but the exported latex has  
 additional
 lines in the preamble.

It is empty because that field is intended for user input. The preamble 
that LyX creates is never stored in the document.

 Makes it really hard to debug latex problems   
 if you
 don't know about this.

I am pretty sure that the documentation tells that LyX puts some stuff into 
the preamble, so I don't see this as a big problem.

 One could perhaps put preamble entries that come 
 from the Output Settings in a different color (maybe even grayed  
 out), but
 still let them show up in the preamble.

Of course it must not be possible to edit the LyX generated preamble. That 
would be even more confusing.

LyX 1.5.0 will have a View-Source menu entry, I believe that this is a 
good solution to examine LaTeX problems.


Georg



newsletter class

2007-01-11 Thread Graham Smith
Hello,

I have just started using Lyx, and wondered if there was a class for
short newsletters (2 sides or 4 sides of A4)

I assume it is a Class I am looking for, and that Lyx would be
suitable. It doesn't need to be too fancy, but smart and modern and
something that I can type in the text and not spend several days
trying to make it look good, as I did in Word. two column with a
banner headline, logo and contact details. Distributed and PDF
attachment, but with some printed.

BTW to the developers: Lyx looks a brilliant piece of software and I
am really looking forward to learning it.

-- 
Regards,
 Graham  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




accents

2007-01-11 Thread Romuald POTEAU
Dear Lyx users,

I use lyx for a long time now, and it happens to me to write documents
in French. I experience problems with spell checking of accented words.
For example, when the spell checker finds intégrer (which is perfectly
well written for a native french) it stops on that word and suggests
instead intégrer, which is obviously a bad suggestion. What can I do ?
I am using Lyx 1.4.3 under Suse 10.1, with aspell.

Sincerely yours,
Romuald





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Re: [update] Re: fancyhdr! It's working. BUT 3 questions ...

2007-01-11 Thread Joe(theWordy)Philbrook
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It would appear that on Jan 11, Helge Hafting did say:

 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
  Still haven't found a useful list yet But ...

 - - - - - - - - - s n i p - - - - - - - - - -

 Well, I don't know any such lists.  The problem is, you can put
 just about any latex command in the header. (Well, a page
 break would be really stupid, but anything that produce
 a small amount of output would work in a header.) 
 There are thousands of latex commands, so it is hard to make
 a complete list.  That's why I suggested a latex manual,
 they list everything and you can pick what you want.
 Latex really is a programming language aimed at typesetting.
 There are a few good manuals. You can look up anything,
 from simple stuff like getting a page number or section name
 in the header, all the way to complicated stuff like
 programming an entire new latex add-on package.

That makes sense I guess. But all I want to do is to learn to use LyX
instead of Ooffice for most of my writing. I'm not really planing on
becoming a LaTeX expert. Still I suppose I might use google to find an
online manual I could look at for clues now and then.

 Now, if you want some specific thing in your header, such as
 date, filename, or the page number in roman numerals - just ask.

Actually I wanted the list of possibles to see if it gave me any ideas.
Speaking of which you just gave me one. At least I think you did grin.
When you say filename, do you mean the full pathname of the .lyx file 
such as /home/jtwdyp/com/lyxSTUFF/ToJim.lyx or just ToJim.lyx???

Wait let me guess, there is probably a latex command form for both the
simple filename and the pathname, right? 
 
 In any case. Thanks again for all the great help you so kindly gave me.
For even if I never learn any more of the underlying LaTeX, I now have
enough to make LyX as useful for personal correspondence as it already
was for more formal uses. This ensures that I'll use it enough to get
comfortable with it. 

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Re: long-time LyX user needs install help on Mac OSX 10.4.8

2007-01-11 Thread Georg Baum
Jens Noeckel wrote:

 Assuming you got the dvipdfmx package from fink, too: the error is
 probably due to the entry \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} which is
 inserted into the LaTeX preamble by LyX without asking or telling
 you. It's a good idea to have that when using pdflatex, which I use
 almost exclusively. But still: I think this practice of stealthily
 slipping in extraneous code is not a good philosophy on the part of LyX.

I don't know when the fontenc package is needed, but whether it is used or
not can be configured in the preferences. Just enter default as font
encoding, and LyX will not output this line.


Georg



Re: problème avec lyx1.4.2

2007-01-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 blondot == blondot bernard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

blondot Le sytème copier couper coller semble fonctionner assez mal
blondot en tout cas bien plus mal que dans les anciennes versions ,
blondot est ce du à un bogue ou à defaut de configuration , il en est
blondot de même des fonctions annuler et refaire . 

Qu'est-ce qui marche mal?

blondot Les aides proposées ne sont pas d' une grande utilité car ne
blondot correspondent pas à la version actuelle de lyx . 

On y travaille :) Ça sera mieux dans la version 1.4.4.

blondot Dans le menu editer math ( quand on est en mode math ) à quoi
blondot sert l' option logiciel de calcul formel ? j'ai essayé avec
blondot maxima mais cela n' a rien donné et ce n' est pas le fichier
blondot d' aide qui peut me donner une réponse

Je ne crois pas que ce soit documenté en effet :( Normalement, cela
permet d'exécuter un calcul et de le remplacer par sont résultat. Je
n'ai jamais essayé moi-même... (le support de maxima sera aussi
amélioré dans la version 1.4.4)

JMarc


Re: Mysql

2007-01-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

To: LyX Users List lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
From: Daniel Culver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mysql
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:40:36 -0800

Hi,
I am thinking about using Lyx for some documents that need to include  
output from a Mysql database. Does anyone have any advise about the  
best way to proceed.

It depends of the kind of doc you mean

If it's just patching data
in a LyX doc (a teable, e.g.), it's quite simple to write
a script which creates the tex code in a file, e.g. mytable.tex
and \input{mytable}

If you want to fill in a template with various data,
here is what I do (it's not Mysql, it's from Internet
forms, but it must work the same).

 1/on the LyX side,
 - insert variable info as latex commands, i.e. if you want
 to get the name, type in ERT \dbname, \dbaddress, etc. at the desired location.
 - create a tex file, say data_ref.tex where these commands are defined
 with typical values
\newcommand{\dbname}{your_name}
\newcommand{\dbaddress}{your_address}
...
 - \input{data_ref} in your preamble and check that the LyX output is correct
 - touch an empty data.tex file and \input{data} after \input{data_ref} in the 
preamble

  2/ on the mySQl side
 - create a script, say extract_data.sh, extract_data.pl (perl is great for 
this)
  or whatever interpreter which extracts the variables your_name, 
your_address...
 and writes out to file data.tex like this:
\renewcommand{\dbname}{your_name}
\renewcommand{\dbaddress}{your_address}
... 
 - check that lyx -e dvi foo.lyx is OK;
 - do whatever needed to automate extraction and lyx compilation for various 
sets of data.
 
 You see that's just one method (among others I guess) to produce a mailing.
 
It's easy to fill in forms with this:
 - get the eps of the empty form
 - define all needed commands to patch data in the form
 - open xfig, place the eps picture
 - with the special flag set, type in all commands at their locations,
 - insert the xfig file as external material in the lyx doc,
 - if the pstex_t or pdftex_t file needs editing (the choice of combinations of 
fonts is not 
complete in xfig) you may revert to explicit \input of pstex_t or pdftex_t, and
 fiddle with the family, shape, etc definitions to get what you want.
 
HTH

-- 
Jean-Pierre

  
 
 



Re: [update] Re: fancyhdr! It's working. BUT 3 questions ...

2007-01-11 Thread Helge Hafting

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

Still haven't found a useful list yet But it was during this search
that I tripped over instructions to use the TeX icon to insert ERTs 
so I'm glad I went there...


I'd still like to find a good index/list of values that can be inserted
to the header, footer (and/or I suspect inside the document body via
ERTs) But you've given me enough to make me sure that I can use lyx for
most of my writing needs. Now I can focus mostly on my writing,
confident that I'll like letting lyx take care of MOST of the
typesetting details...
  

Well, I don't know any such lists.  The problem is, you can put
just about any latex command in the header. (Well, a page
break would be really stupid, but anything that produce
a small amount of output would work in a header.) 


There are thousands of latex commands, so it is hard to make
a complete list.  That's why I suggested a latex manual,
they list everything and you can pick what you want.
Latex really is a programming language aimed at typesetting.
There are a few good manuals. You can look up anything,
from simple stuff like getting a page number or section name
in the header, all the way to complicated stuff like
programming an entire new latex add-on package.

Now, if you want some specific thing in your header, such as
date, filename, or the page number in roman numerals - just ask.


Helge Hafting


Re: long-time LyX user needs install help on Mac OSX 10.4.8

2007-01-11 Thread Jens Noeckel


On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:06 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Jens Noeckel wrote:


Assuming you got the dvipdfmx package from fink, too: the error is
probably due to the entry \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} which is
inserted into the LaTeX preamble by LyX without asking or telling
you. It's a good idea to have that when using pdflatex, which I use
almost exclusively. But still: I think this practice of stealthily
slipping in extraneous code is not a good philosophy on the part  
of LyX.


I don't know when the fontenc package is needed, but whether it is  
used or

not can be configured in the preferences. Just enter default as font
encoding, and LyX will not output this line.



Why not just make those kind of entries visible when the user opens
DocumentSettingsPreamble? The preamble that is shown to the
user is completely empty for a new file, but the exported latex has  
additional
lines in the preamble. Makes it really hard to debug latex problems  
if you

don't know about this. One could perhaps put preamble entries that come
from the Output Settings in a different color (maybe even grayed  
out), but

still let them show up in the preamble.

Jens



Re: Spacing changes in the Memoir class (Solved for now)

2007-01-11 Thread Eran Kaplinsky
Peter Wilson, the author of Memoir, e-mailed me with the solution. 
Props, and thanks for your time, Peter!


EK


Peter Wilson wrote:


I don't have, or use, Lyx so i can't test anything with it.
 
If you have just

\documentclass[...]{memoir}
%%\usepackage{setspace} with or without this
 
then you have to use memoir's line spacing commands (e.g. 
\begin{Spacing}{1} instead of \begin{spacing}{1}). (I tried this with 
your example redefinition of the quote environment and it worked.)
 
   If you have

\documentclass[...]{memoir}
\DisemulatePackage{setspace}
\usepackage{setspace}
 
then you have to use setspace's line spacing commands (e.g., 
\begin{spacing}{1} --- your quote environment example worked following 
\DisemulatePackage{setspace*}).*
 
You can't mix the two sets of commands/environments.
 
Memoir's implementation of the line spacing commands is a little 
different than setspace's, resulting sometimes in different spacing; 
in particular memoir's version eliminates some extra space that might 
occur near/around display material. In one case just calling 
\usepackage{setspace} had the result of insering a large space on one 
page and moving about 6 or 8 lines to the following page even though 
no spacing commands were used; this did not happen with memoir's 
implementation. As the results might be different I choose to use 
different names, but \DisemulatePackage{setspace} gives you the 
opportunity to pick which set you want to use.
 
Peter W.


Eran Kaplinsky wrote:

The memoir class has been recently updated (Dec. 11) and changes have 
been made to spacing commands.


As a result, a LyX document using the class will produce errors if 
paragraph spacing is defined through the EditParagraph menu.


For example, if your document is one-half spaced, but you'd like to 
single space specific content, you will get an environment undefined 
LateX error.


Furthermore, documents using a custom quote style from the memman.pdf 
won't work. For example:



\makeatletter
\renewenvironment{quote}
  {\begin{spacing}{1}\list{}{\rightmargin\leftmargin}%
  \footnotesize\item\relax}
  {\endlist\end{spacing}\noindent\hspace{-0.333em}}
\makeatother


The first problem can be overcome by keeping all paragraphs with 
default spacing, and using ERT commands on a separate line, e.g.,  
\SingleSpacing \OnehalfSpacing -- but I don't know what do about 
custom spacing (say, half a cm) or the custom quote style.




Best,

EK


Re: long-time LyX user needs install help on Mac OSX 10.4.8

2007-01-11 Thread Georg Baum
Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 16:52 schrieb Jens Noeckel:
 Why not just make those kind of entries visible when the user opens
 DocumentSettingsPreamble? The preamble that is shown to the
 user is completely empty for a new file, but the exported latex has  
 additional
 lines in the preamble.

It is empty because that field is intended for user input. The preamble 
that LyX creates is never stored in the document.

 Makes it really hard to debug latex problems   
 if you
 don't know about this.

I am pretty sure that the documentation tells that LyX puts some stuff into 
the preamble, so I don't see this as a big problem.

 One could perhaps put preamble entries that come 
 from the Output Settings in a different color (maybe even grayed  
 out), but
 still let them show up in the preamble.

Of course it must not be possible to edit the LyX generated preamble. That 
would be even more confusing.

LyX 1.5.0 will have a View-Source menu entry, I believe that this is a 
good solution to examine LaTeX problems.


Georg



newsletter class

2007-01-11 Thread Graham Smith
Hello,

I have just started using Lyx, and wondered if there was a class for
short newsletters (2 sides or 4 sides of A4)

I assume it is a Class I am looking for, and that Lyx would be
suitable. It doesn't need to be too fancy, but smart and modern and
something that I can type in the text and not spend several days
trying to make it look good, as I did in Word. two column with a
banner headline, logo and contact details. Distributed and PDF
attachment, but with some printed.

BTW to the developers: Lyx looks a brilliant piece of software and I
am really looking forward to learning it.

-- 
Regards,
 Graham  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




accents

2007-01-11 Thread Romuald POTEAU
Dear Lyx users,

I use lyx for a long time now, and it happens to me to write documents
in French. I experience problems with spell checking of accented words.
For example, when the spell checker finds intégrer (which is perfectly
well written for a native french) it stops on that word and suggests
instead intégrer, which is obviously a bad suggestion. What can I do ?
I am using Lyx 1.4.3 under Suse 10.1, with aspell.

Sincerely yours,
Romuald





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Re: [update] Re: fancyhdr! It's working. BUT 3 questions ...

2007-01-11 Thread Joe(theWordy)Philbrook
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It would appear that on Jan 11, Helge Hafting did say:

 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
  Still haven't found a useful list yet But ...

 - - - - - - - - - s n i p - - - - - - - - - -

 Well, I don't know any such lists.  The problem is, you can put
 just about any latex command in the header. (Well, a page
 break would be really stupid, but anything that produce
 a small amount of output would work in a header.) 
 There are thousands of latex commands, so it is hard to make
 a complete list.  That's why I suggested a latex manual,
 they list everything and you can pick what you want.
 Latex really is a programming language aimed at typesetting.
 There are a few good manuals. You can look up anything,
 from simple stuff like getting a page number or section name
 in the header, all the way to complicated stuff like
 programming an entire new latex add-on package.

That makes sense I guess. But all I want to do is to learn to use LyX
instead of Ooffice for most of my writing. I'm not really planing on
becoming a LaTeX expert. Still I suppose I might use google to find an
online manual I could look at for clues now and then.

 Now, if you want some specific thing in your header, such as
 date, filename, or the page number in roman numerals - just ask.

Actually I wanted the list of possibles to see if it gave me any ideas.
Speaking of which you just gave me one. At least I think you did grin.
When you say filename, do you mean the full pathname of the .lyx file 
such as /home/jtwdyp/com/lyxSTUFF/ToJim.lyx or just ToJim.lyx???

Wait let me guess, there is probably a latex command form for both the
simple filename and the pathname, right? 
 
 In any case. Thanks again for all the great help you so kindly gave me.
For even if I never learn any more of the underlying LaTeX, I now have
enough to make LyX as useful for personal correspondence as it already
was for more formal uses. This ensures that I'll use it enough to get
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Re: long-time LyX user needs install help on Mac OSX 10.4.8

2007-01-11 Thread Georg Baum
Jens Noeckel wrote:

> Assuming you got the dvipdfmx package from fink, too: the error is
> probably due to the entry "\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}" which is
> inserted into the LaTeX preamble by LyX without asking or telling
> you. It's a good idea to have that when using pdflatex, which I use
> almost exclusively. But still: I think this practice of stealthily
> slipping in extraneous code is not a good philosophy on the part of LyX.

I don't know when the fontenc package is needed, but whether it is used or
not can be configured in the preferences. Just enter "default" as font
encoding, and LyX will not output this line.


Georg



Re: problème avec lyx1.4.2

2007-01-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "blondot" == blondot bernard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

blondot> Le sytème copier couper coller semble fonctionner assez mal
blondot> en tout cas bien plus mal que dans les anciennes versions ,
blondot> est ce du à un bogue ou à defaut de configuration , il en est
blondot> de même des fonctions annuler et refaire . 

Qu'est-ce qui marche mal?

blondot> Les aides proposées ne sont pas d' une grande utilité car ne
blondot> correspondent pas à la version actuelle de lyx . 

On y travaille :) Ça sera mieux dans la version 1.4.4.

blondot> Dans le menu editer math ( quand on est en mode math ) à quoi
blondot> sert l' option logiciel de calcul formel ? j'ai essayé avec
blondot> maxima mais cela n' a rien donné et ce n' est pas le fichier
blondot> d' aide qui peut me donner une réponse

Je ne crois pas que ce soit documenté en effet :( Normalement, cela
permet d'exécuter un calcul et de le remplacer par sont résultat. Je
n'ai jamais essayé moi-même... (le support de maxima sera aussi
amélioré dans la version 1.4.4)

JMarc


Re: Mysql

2007-01-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

>>To: LyX Users List 
>>From: Daniel Culver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Mysql
>>Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:40:36 -0800
>>
>>Hi,
>>I am thinking about using Lyx for some documents that need to include  
>>output from a Mysql database. Does anyone have any advise about the  
>>best way to proceed.

It depends of the kind of doc you mean

If it's just patching data
in a LyX doc (a teable, e.g.), it's quite simple to write
a script which creates the tex code in a file, e.g. mytable.tex
and \input{mytable}

If you want to fill in a template with various data,
here is what I do (it's not Mysql, it's from Internet
forms, but it must work the same).

 1/on the LyX side,
 - insert variable info as latex commands, i.e. if you want
 to get the name, type in ERT \dbname, \dbaddress, etc. at the desired location.
 - create a tex file, say data_ref.tex where these commands are defined
 with typical values
\newcommand{\dbname}{your_name}
\newcommand{\dbaddress}{your_address}
...
 - \input{data_ref} in your preamble and check that the LyX output is correct
 - touch an empty data.tex file and \input{data} after \input{data_ref} in the 
preamble

  2/ on the mySQl side
 - create a script, say extract_data.sh, extract_data.pl (perl is great for 
this)
  or whatever interpreter which extracts the variables your_name, 
your_address...
 and writes out to file data.tex like this:
\renewcommand{\dbname}{your_name}
\renewcommand{\dbaddress}{your_address}
... 
 - check that lyx -e dvi foo.lyx is OK;
 - do whatever needed to automate extraction and lyx compilation for various 
sets of data.
 
 You see that's just one method (among others I guess) to produce a mailing.
 
It's easy to fill in forms with this:
 - get the eps of the empty form
 - define all needed commands to patch data in the form
 - open xfig, place the eps picture
 - with the special flag set, type in all commands at their locations,
 - insert the xfig file as external material in the lyx doc,
 - if the pstex_t or pdftex_t file needs editing (the choice of combinations of 
fonts is not 
complete in xfig) you may revert to explicit \input of pstex_t or pdftex_t, and
 fiddle with the family, shape, etc definitions to get what you want.
 
HTH

-- 
Jean-Pierre

  
 
 



Re: [update] Re: fancyhdr! It's working. BUT 3 questions ...

2007-01-11 Thread Helge Hafting

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

Still haven't found a useful "list" yet But it was during this search
that I tripped over instructions to use the TeX icon to insert ERTs 
so I'm glad I went there...


I'd still like to find a good index/list of values that can be inserted
to the header, footer (and/or I suspect inside the document body via
ERTs) But you've given me enough to make me sure that I can use lyx for
most of my writing needs. Now I can focus mostly on my writing,
confident that I'll like letting lyx take care of MOST of the
typesetting details...
  

Well, I don't know any such lists.  The problem is, you can put
just about any latex command in the header. (Well, a page
break would be really stupid, but anything that produce
a "small" amount of output would work in a header.) 


There are thousands of latex commands, so it is hard to make
a complete list.  That's why I suggested a latex manual,
they list everything and you can pick what you want.
Latex really is a programming language aimed at typesetting.
There are a few good manuals. You can look up anything,
from simple stuff like getting a page number or section name
in the header, all the way to complicated stuff like
programming an entire new latex add-on package.

Now, if you want some specific thing in your header, such as
date, filename, or the page number in roman numerals - just ask.


Helge Hafting


Re: long-time LyX user needs install help on Mac OSX 10.4.8

2007-01-11 Thread Jens Noeckel


On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:06 AM, Georg Baum wrote:


Jens Noeckel wrote:


Assuming you got the dvipdfmx package from fink, too: the error is
probably due to the entry "\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}" which is
inserted into the LaTeX preamble by LyX without asking or telling
you. It's a good idea to have that when using pdflatex, which I use
almost exclusively. But still: I think this practice of stealthily
slipping in extraneous code is not a good philosophy on the part  
of LyX.


I don't know when the fontenc package is needed, but whether it is  
used or

not can be configured in the preferences. Just enter "default" as font
encoding, and LyX will not output this line.



Why not just make those kind of entries visible when the user opens
Document>Settings>Preamble? The preamble that is shown to the
user is completely empty for a new file, but the exported latex has  
additional
lines in the preamble. Makes it really hard to debug latex problems  
if you

don't know about this. One could perhaps put preamble entries that come
from the "Output" Settings in a different color (maybe even grayed  
out), but

still let them show up in the preamble.

Jens



Re: Spacing changes in the Memoir class (Solved for now)

2007-01-11 Thread Eran Kaplinsky
Peter Wilson, the author of Memoir, e-mailed me with the solution. 
Props, and thanks for your time, Peter!


EK


Peter Wilson wrote:


I don't have, or use, Lyx so i can't test anything with it.
 
If you have just

\documentclass[...]{memoir}
%%\usepackage{setspace} with or without this
 
then you have to use memoir's line spacing commands (e.g. 
\begin{Spacing}{1} instead of \begin{spacing}{1}). (I tried this with 
your example redefinition of the quote environment and it worked.)
 
   If you have

\documentclass[...]{memoir}
\DisemulatePackage{setspace}
\usepackage{setspace}
 
then you have to use setspace's line spacing commands (e.g., 
\begin{spacing}{1} --- your quote environment example worked following 
\DisemulatePackage{setspace*}).*
 
You can't mix the two sets of commands/environments.
 
Memoir's implementation of the line spacing commands is a little 
different than setspace's, resulting sometimes in different spacing; 
in particular memoir's version eliminates some extra space that might 
occur near/around display material. In one case just calling 
\usepackage{setspace} had the result of insering a large space on one 
page and moving about 6 or 8 lines to the following page even though 
no spacing commands were used; this did not happen with memoir's 
implementation. As the results might be different I choose to use 
different names, but \DisemulatePackage{setspace} gives you the 
opportunity to pick which set you want to use.
 
Peter W.


Eran Kaplinsky wrote:

The memoir class has been recently updated (Dec. 11) and changes have 
been made to spacing commands.


As a result, a LyX document using the class will produce errors if 
paragraph spacing is defined through the Edit>Paragraph menu.


For example, if your document is one-half spaced, but you'd like to 
single space specific content, you will get an "environment undefined" 
LateX error.


Furthermore, documents using a custom quote style from the memman.pdf 
won't work. For example:



\makeatletter
\renewenvironment{quote}
  {\begin{spacing}{1}\list{}{\rightmargin\leftmargin}%
  \footnotesize\item\relax}
  {\endlist\end{spacing}\noindent\hspace{-0.333em}}
\makeatother


The first problem can be overcome by keeping all paragraphs with 
default spacing, and using ERT commands on a separate line, e.g.,  
\SingleSpacing \OnehalfSpacing -- but I don't know what do about 
custom spacing (say, half a cm) or the custom quote style.




Best,

EK


Re: long-time LyX user needs install help on Mac OSX 10.4.8

2007-01-11 Thread Georg Baum
Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 16:52 schrieb Jens Noeckel:
> Why not just make those kind of entries visible when the user opens
> Document>Settings>Preamble? The preamble that is shown to the
> user is completely empty for a new file, but the exported latex has  
> additional
> lines in the preamble.

It is empty because that field is intended for user input. The preamble 
that LyX creates is never stored in the document.

> Makes it really hard to debug latex problems   
> if you
> don't know about this.

I am pretty sure that the documentation tells that LyX puts some stuff into 
the preamble, so I don't see this as a big problem.

> One could perhaps put preamble entries that come 
> >from the "Output" Settings in a different color (maybe even grayed  
> out), but
> still let them show up in the preamble.

Of course it must not be possible to edit the LyX generated preamble. That 
would be even more confusing.

LyX 1.5.0 will have a View->Source menu entry, I believe that this is a 
good solution to examine LaTeX problems.


Georg



newsletter class

2007-01-11 Thread Graham Smith
Hello,

I have just started using Lyx, and wondered if there was a class for
short newsletters (2 sides or 4 sides of A4)

I assume it is a Class I am looking for, and that Lyx would be
suitable. It doesn't need to be too fancy, but smart and modern and
something that I can type in the text and not spend several days
trying to make it look good, as I did in Word. two column with a
banner headline, logo and contact details. Distributed and PDF
attachment, but with some printed.

BTW to the developers: Lyx looks a brilliant piece of software and I
am really looking forward to learning it.

-- 
Regards,
 Graham  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




accents

2007-01-11 Thread Romuald POTEAU
Dear Lyx users,

I use lyx for a long time now, and it happens to me to write documents
in French. I experience problems with spell checking of accented words.
For example, when the spell checker finds "intégrer" (which is perfectly
well written for a native french) it stops on that word and suggests
instead "intégrer", which is obviously a bad suggestion. What can I do ?
I am using Lyx 1.4.3 under Suse 10.1, with aspell.

Sincerely yours,
Romuald





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Re: [update] Re: fancyhdr! It's working. BUT 3 questions ...

2007-01-11 Thread Joe(theWordy)Philbrook
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It would appear that on Jan 11, Helge Hafting did say:

> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > Still haven't found a useful "list" yet But ...

 - - - - - - - - -< s n i p >- - - - - - - - - -

> Well, I don't know any such lists.  The problem is, you can put
> just about any latex command in the header. (Well, a page
> break would be really stupid, but anything that produce
> a "small" amount of output would work in a header.) 
> There are thousands of latex commands, so it is hard to make
> a complete list.  That's why I suggested a latex manual,
> they list everything and you can pick what you want.
> Latex really is a programming language aimed at typesetting.
> There are a few good manuals. You can look up anything,
> from simple stuff like getting a page number or section name
> in the header, all the way to complicated stuff like
> programming an entire new latex add-on package.

That makes sense I guess. But all I want to do is to learn to use LyX
instead of Ooffice for most of my writing. I'm not really planing on
becoming a LaTeX expert. Still I suppose I might use google to find an
online manual I could look at for clues now and then.

> Now, if you want some specific thing in your header, such as
> date, filename, or the page number in roman numerals - just ask.

Actually I wanted the list of possibles to see if it gave me any ideas.
Speaking of which you just gave me one. At least I think you did .
When you say filename, do you mean the full pathname of the .lyx file 
such as "/home/jtwdyp/com/lyxSTUFF/ToJim.lyx" or just "ToJim.lyx"???

Wait let me guess, there is probably a latex command form for both the
simple filename and the pathname, right? 
 
 In any case. Thanks again for all the great help you so kindly gave me.
For even if I never learn any more of the underlying LaTeX, I now have
enough to make LyX as useful for personal correspondence as it already
was for more formal uses. This ensures that I'll use it enough to get
comfortable with it. 

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