Re: BibLaTeX blues

[Maksi]

On 2008-03-27 23:14:40 +0100, Julio Rojas 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:




Guys, BibLaTeX rules!!! I'm working my way thru the files and up until now,
I have been able to mimic the format APA uses for the article records. It's
hard, but not as hard as BibTeX.

If someone is interested on an APAlike style in BibLaTeX, please, let me
know.

Best regards.


Glad to hear that. I also think that biblatex really will become the 
major tool for BibTeX. If you have found a quick and easy way to edit 
styles, would you like to add it to the biblatex page in the LyX wiki? 
That would be nice.


Cheers,

Maksi

Re: Bibliography Style

[Maksi]

On 2008-03-26 14:37:06 +0100, Julio Rojas 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:



Thanks Max. BTW, is there any application that helps in the migration
from a BibTeX database to a BibLaTeX one? What about maintaining it? I
mean, something like JabRef.


As for the app, I simply continued using BibDesk, so JabRef should be 
just fine. You might have to configure JabRef to make easy use of some 
of the new fields that biblatex offers (e.g. I added a translator-field 
to my templates, a library-field and so on, all fields for which 
biblatex offers interesting support and functionality).


Maksi

Re: Need Urgent Help

[Ankur Verma]

Hi Liviu.

Thanks for your reply.

The problem which I am facing is solved when I remove the equations from
.lyx file.  Now, I can successfully  export the pdf from the  .lyx file,
without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy the
equations into the .lyx file.

I am using Lyx 1.5.4 version on Win XP platform.

Thanks for your time.

Regards,
Ankur Verma

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Ankur Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   I just started working on Lyx and found it very helpful in making tex
 files.
   I am making a report which I have to submit very urgently.
 
   The problem I am facing is: There is no effect by clicking on View pdf
 or
   Update pdf (or either dvi and ps) buttons. Nothing opens up. When I
 delete
   some contents of .lyx file, and then click on these (e.g. View pdf),
 the pdf
   document opens up. By this way, I have to delete some content from .lyx
 file
   which I dont want to do!
 
   I would be very glad if somebody could help me out of this problem
 urgently.

 Difficult to judge. Let's start with the obvious: what platform, LyX
 version, TeX distribution do you use? Can you post somewhere on the
 net the problematic file? What document class do you use? Is there
 anything specific about the text you delete? Do you have the same
 problem when you simply File  Export and then manually open the
 resulting, say, .pdf with a PDF viewer?
 Liviu




-- 
Ankur Verma
Student, NSIT, University of Delhi.

Re: Need Urgent Help

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Ankur Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The problem which I am facing is solved when I remove the equations from
  .lyx file.  Now, I can successfully  export the pdf from the  .lyx file,
  without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy the
  equations into the .lyx file.

I'd try exporting the lyx file to latex and looking at the latex file produced.

Which equations cause the problem? All of them?

Perhaps you could provide either the LyX file with the problem, the
Latex file generated and/or an example of an equation that is causing
you trouble.

You can navigate to the equation giving you trouble and View-View
Source and then cut and paste the LaTeX Source into your email.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Need Urgent Help

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Ankur Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy the
 equations into the .lyx file.

Could not say whether this would lead anywhere, but how exactly did
you enter the equations (using ERT or graphically through LyX)? If you
use equations, wouldn't you need to use some specific pacakge in the
Preamble? It might also help to check whether this is a font problem.
Liviu

Re: Need Urgent Help

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Ankur Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy the
equations into the .lyx file.


Could not say whether this would lead anywhere, but how exactly did
you enter the equations (using ERT or graphically through LyX)? If you
use equations, wouldn't you need to use some specific pacakge in the
Preamble? It might also help to check whether this is a font problem.
Liviu


Please stop cross posting to the devel list.

Abdel.

Re: Need Urgent Help

[Ankur Verma]

Hi Liviu and John.

Thank you for your help.

I am entering the equations graphically thorugh LyX. After some tweaking, I
can succesfully export the pdf from it, but don't know how is it working!

I entered the equation and they were in blue color like this:

RH=c1+c2*result+c3*result^{2}

but when I clicked around the equation for some time and pressed space bar,
it turned into black color whose view was like the actual equation (like the
one we will see in the final pdf document).

I am happy that it is working, but would like to know how it did?

Thanks guys for your help. LyX is really cool!

Sincerely,
Ankur Verma
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John McCabe-Dansted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Ankur Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   The problem which I am facing is solved when I remove the equations
 from
   .lyx file.  Now, I can successfully  export the pdf from the  .lyx
 file,
   without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy
 the
   equations into the .lyx file.

 I'd try exporting the lyx file to latex and looking at the latex file
 produced.

 Which equations cause the problem? All of them?

 Perhaps you could provide either the LyX file with the problem, the
 Latex file generated and/or an example of an equation that is causing
 you trouble.

 You can navigate to the equation giving you trouble and View-View
 Source and then cut and paste the LaTeX Source into your email.

 --
 John C. McCabe-Dansted
 PhD Student
 University of Western Australia

making 1 small mod to layout

[Neal Becker]

I want to allow paragraph in amsart.

One way is copy amsart.layout to my .lyx/layouts, and just comment out
NoStyle paragraph

Is there a way to just include the standard system file, and just make a
1-line .lyx/layouts that makes this modification?

Re: BibLaTeX blues

[Julio Rojas]

There's no quick and easy way. Just reading the files and manual, thou
biblatex-DW style helped a lot (even if the source code is commented in
german!!!).

I'll try to do something helpful.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Maksi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On 2008-03-27 23:14:40 +0100, Julio Rojas
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 
  Guys, BibLaTeX rules!!! I'm working my way thru the files and up until
 now,
  I have been able to mimic the format APA uses for the article records.
 It's
  hard, but not as hard as BibTeX.
 
  If someone is interested on an APAlike style in BibLaTeX, please, let me
  know.
 
  Best regards.

 Glad to hear that. I also think that biblatex really will become the
 major tool for BibTeX. If you have found a quick and easy way to edit
 styles, would you like to add it to the biblatex page in the LyX wiki?
 That would be nice.

 Cheers,

 Maksi





-- 
-
Julio Rojas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Primary colours of LyX? Was: Website re-design ideas

[AK]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Joost Verburg wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do LyX have some sort of primary colours?  Or some kind of colour
 theme?  My company spent money on letting a designer come up with a 
colour
 set, where we should try and use a certain combo of colours... Do 
we have

 something like that?


In my opinion a color set should be a part of the new design.


Ok, but less easy... now I remember what it was called, she referred 
to it as the 'graphial profile'. It involved more than just colours, 
also what fonts we should use etc. Anyway, the designer we used 
apparantly spent quite a bit of time thinking this through somehow.. I 
just wonder if we'll be able to come up with something useful. But 
maybe this is were Andrei's expertise comes into play?


According to my gf it's non trival, and apparantly related to 
branding... and we should start with what LyX represents, and what 
its core values are how are we different from the competition... 
sigh, can't we just do development? ;-)


Actually, it's probably a good idea to see what kind of graphial 
profiles OO, MS Word, Abi Word and LaTeX have?


/Christian

PS. I tried finding some kind of explanation of what a graphical 
profile is... this sounds like the thing I meant. From

http://moonmanstudio.com/graphicalprofile.php


Logo  graphical profile

Any company needs a logo and preferably a graphical profile to make 
themselves known to their customers.


Think of the big companies, think of IBM: stripy and blue, McDonalds: 
M and yellow. They are graphical profiles that helps give them an 
image that sticks in customers minds. Not only do they help the 
business stand out, but it also creates a reputation. IBM's logo gives 
a very traditional feel, serene and solid. It represents something you 
can rely on in the marketplace. While the McDonalds logo is dynamic 
and fun, inviting you to a feel-good experience.


A graphical profile spans logo, colours, business cards, stationeries, 
and a range of supplies for commercial purposes.


Mostly, for the project like LyX, I believe that graphical profile 
should be just a palette of colors and the logo. The only additional 
thing we could do is a custom 'mathy' font face, incorporating some 
characters used in math formulas, but that'd take more time than I have 
at the moment to spend on this, I would say that this could take quite a 
bit of effort to do well. In case of a company like IBM, the same color 
scheme and custom fonts are used for print ads, booklets, letter forms, 
tv ads, billboards, splash screen in programs, website, intranet, signs 
in front of buildings, space design on trade shows and I'm probably 
forgetting many things here. Note that the UI of programs made by IBM 
will use native colors of the platform, for the most part. For them, 
maintaining the same graphical profile is more important, firstly, 
because use in each instance will reinforce impact of the design in all 
other instances, and secondly, because they can manage enough 
advertising saturation that the design is imprinted in visual memory and 
is not seen as 'blue logo design with stripes' but immediately as 'ibm 
design'. For LyX, I would say, it's more important to have a logo and 
template that look nice and pleasing to the eye. There will probably be 
many other sites that use similar color scheme, unless we do bright 
yellow on orange design, which is bad for other reasons. So, a casual 
user or someone entirely new won't think 'of course that's LyX color 
profile', but instead will think 'this design is nice' or 'this design 
isn't very nice' where the first reaction is preferable. People will 
remember the Platypus, though, but we already have that. So, to sum up, 
we should have a color scheme that will be shared between site template 
and splash screen, and probably use a standard font face like Verdana or 
something similar for now, and have the Platypus as the main 
recognizable identifier of all things LyX. -andrei


--
-ak
 Tobu | http://www.lightbird.net/tobu/ | Freeform DB / Tagger / PIM

Re: Contents of Preamble...EndPreamble in Layout not being output to tex file

[rgheck]

Geevarghese Philip wrote:

Geevarghese Philip wrote:

Geevarghese Philip wrote:
the layout file you attached solves my problem of getting sequential 
theorems,


This works as intended for the dvi/ps/pdf versions. I guess I am being 
greedy, but if only I could make LyX display the theorems with a 
sequential numbering, instead of prepending the subsection number to 
the theorem
Try the attached. You'll get a warning about counter redefinition, but 
it works.


rh

#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[report]{amsreport}

Format 4

Input stdclass.inc
Input numreport.inc

Style Bibliography
TopSep4
LabelString   Bibliography
LabelFont
  Series  Bold
  SizeHuge
EndFont
End

Input amsdefs.inc
Input amsmaths-seq.inc

Re: Bibliography Style

[rgheck]

Maksi wrote:

On 2008-03-26 14:37:06 +0100, Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


Thanks Max. BTW, is there any application that helps in the migration
from a BibTeX database to a BibLaTeX one? What about maintaining it? I
mean, something like JabRef.


As for the app, I simply continued using BibDesk, so JabRef should be 
just fine. You might have to configure JabRef to make easy use of some 
of the new fields that biblatex offers (e.g. I added a 
translator-field to my templates, a library-field and so on, all 
fields for which biblatex offers interesting support and functionality).


There are remarks at various points in the BibLaTeX docs suggesting 
changes were made to keep it compatible with JabRef.


rh

Re: making 1 small mod to layout

[rgheck]

Neal Becker wrote:

I want to allow paragraph in amsart.

One way is copy amsart.layout to my .lyx/layouts, and just comment out
NoStyle paragraph

Is there a way to just include the standard system file, and just make a
1-line .lyx/layouts that makes this modification?
  
If I understand the question, no. If you included amsart, then Paragraph 
would already be gone, and you'd have to redefine it. Which you could 
do, of course.


rh

Re: Beamer and columns problem (bug?)

[Paul A. Rubin]

Graeme wrote:

I am using LyX1.5.4-1 on WinXP, with the Beamer document class.

When I select the style ColumnsTopAligned within a frame, Lyx inserts

\begin{topcolumns}%{}

\end{topcolumns}%{}

as can easily be checked with the View Source window.

However, it seems impossible to enter any text between these \begin{} 
and \end{} statements.


If I simply hit Return on the line that says Columns (top aligned), then 
try to style the next line with the Column style, Lyx takes me 
completely outside the topcolumns environment, again as can be seen from 
the View Source window.


I get the same problems with the ColumnsCenterAligned and the simple 
Columns styles.


Am I missing something really obvious, or is this a bug with Lyx 1.5.4?


You're missing something ... whether it's really obvious or not is a 
matter of opinion. :-)


First insert the Columns environment.  Underneath that, insert a Column 
environment and fill in the width (including units, e.g. 40mm).  Now 
nest the Column environment under the Columns environment (Edit - 
Increase List Depth or M-S-right or the tool button that looks like an 
item list with a left-to-right arrow). Then type in whatever you want in 
the column and nest it as well.


/Paul

Re: Beamer and columns problem (bug?)

[Graeme]

Graeme wrote:

I am using LyX1.5.4-1 on WinXP, with the Beamer document class.

When I select the style ColumnsTopAligned within a frame, Lyx inserts


\begin{topcolumns}%{}

\end{topcolumns}%{}

as can easily be checked with the View Source window.


However, it seems impossible to enter any text between these \begin{}
and \end{} statements.

If I simply hit Return on the line that says Columns (top aligned),
then try to style the next line with the Column style, Lyx takes me
completely outside the topcolumns environment, again as can be seen
from the View Source window.

I get the same problems with the ColumnsCenterAligned and the simple
Columns styles.

Am I missing something really obvious, or is this a bug with Lyx
1.5.4?


 
You're missing something ... whether it's really obvious or not is a

matter of opinion. :-)

First insert the Columns environment. Underneath that, insert a
Column environment and fill in the width (including units, e.g.
40mm). Now nest the Column environment under the Columns environment
(Edit - Increase List Depth or M-S-right or the tool button that
looks like an item list with a left-to-right arrow). Then type in
whatever you want in the column and nest it as well.

/Paul


Paul

Thanks for your helpful reply. It was the need to Increase Depth that I 
did not find sufficiently obvious...


Graeme

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Best approach to using lyx with a university provided style file?

[B. Bogart]

Hello all,

I'm just starting to work on my thesis and thought I would take a closer
look at getting the appropriate style to work.

I have to warn you all I've only made simple use of latex, and have been
using LyX for most of my writing.

When using an external format before I've simply exported the lyx file
to latex, applied the new style for the conference, and edited by hand
where needed, which has been a headache.

Now the format for my thesis (in the form of a .sty file) makes my other
 formats simplistic, and I'm having lots of trouble. I'll try to reduce
this to the central details.

First I took the article.layout file, copied it into a new name, and
added \usepackage{csthesis.sty} in the preamble section as such:

Preamble
\usepackage{csthesis}
EndPreamble

I also added and texhashed the sty file so that lyx could find it.

I confirm that article(csthesis) is listed as a document class in Lyx.

The layout file simply controls how the document appears in Lyx, and
does not have any effect on the output, correct?

So I generated a few DVIs and noticed that the example thesis, that came
with the package, bears little resemblance to my own output.

In order to test I imported the latex example file, included with the
package, into lyx and tried to generate output.

First problem was that I got the following error:

LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.

Lyx highlights the first \qualification{} command.

All the google references I found talked about this error in terms of
using \\, which is not in the document.

Aside: I did notice that just before the qualification a \maketitle
command in the view-source window. What I don't understand is that
command is not visible as ERT or in any way in the normal lyx view.

So I did the logical thing of commenting out (with a preceding % sign)
in front of both the \qualification{} commands. Once that is done Lyx
will generate output, the style of the title is incorrect.

So I exported a second latex file from this document, and commented out
the \maketitle command.

Once that is done I can generate a proper looking document using latex
directly on that tex document.

I'm happy that I've been able to get something to work at all, but how
can I use the proper style in LyX directly without having to manually
edit the tex file after exporting?

Why does the \maketitle command get added when I import the tex?

Why does output bail on the \qualification{} commands?

Why does the output of the document using the layout that uses the
thesis style file not generate output that resembles the sample file?

I've attached a few files to make things more clear:

csthesis.sty is the University provided style file.

sfuthesis.sty is a copy of article.layout with the csthesis package used.

bbtest.tex is a shorted version of the sample text file that came with
the university style file, without any hand-changes. Note it does not
include a \makeletter command, but generates a nice title according to
the university specs when using latex by hand.

I may be the first person to use LyX with this style at my University,
and considering how happy I am with LyX in general, I hope solving these
issues will encourage students in the future to use LyX.

Thanks for your time,
any pointers or suggestions appreciated.

B. Bogart

#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article (sfuthesis)}

Preamble
\usepackage{csthesis}
EndPreamble

Format 4
Input stdclass.inc

SecNumDepth 3
TocDepth3

NoStyle Chapter
NoStyle Chapter*


Style Part
Align Left
AlignPossible Left
TopSep2
BottomSep 1.5
Font
  SizeLarger
EndFont
End


Style Part*
Align Left
AlignPossible Left
TopSep2
BottomSep 1.5
Font
  SizeLarger
EndFont
End

%%
%% This is file `csthesis.sty',
%% generated with the docstrip utility.
%%
%% The original source files were:
%%
%% csthesis.dtx  (with options: `package')
%% 
%% IMPORTANT NOTICE:
%% 
%% For the copyright see the source file.
%% 
%% Any modified versions of this file must be renamed
%% with new filenames distinct from csthesis.sty.
%% 
%% For distribution of the original source see the terms
%% for copying and modification in the file csthesis.dtx.
%% 
%% This generated file may be distributed as long as the
%% original source files, as listed above, are part of the
%% same distribution. (The sources need not necessarily be
%% in the same archive or directory.)
%%
%% Comp. Science, SFU thesis style `csthesis', to be used with LaTeX2e
%% Copyright (C) 1998 Petr Pp Kubon
%%
%% History:
%%   1) 1989: Created by Stephen Chan (CSS) from Stanford PhD Thesis style
%%   2) 1996: Modifications and additions by Margaret Sharon (ACS)
%%   3) 

character encoding issue with pdf production..

[Eitan Suez]

following up on my previous post:

i have a lyx document with the preamble specifying to use
the font beramono for the non-proportional font
(e.g. for lyx-code sections).

when i produce the dvi or pdf, angle brackets:  
appear as upside down question marks and upside down
exclamation marks.  my previous message about this issue
(with the same subject line) includes screenshots.

my locale is english/us.

any idea on why this font would be behaving this way?
i have produced dvi's using the same font in the past that
didn't exhibit this problem.  on the same os.  the main difference
being a different distribution of ubuntu (was gutsy vs now hardy)
has a change taken place in
the implementation to the font that would cause this
problem?  any idea how to change it back?  where can i
find resources on understanding how such fonts are implemented
so i can get to the core of this issue?

thanks in advance,
/ eitan

Re: Banner, Splash Screen, Logo, Mascot, Name, oh my!

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:44:49PM -0430, Julio Rojas wrote:
 Guys, don't you believe your investing way too much time in this line of
 problems? :)

It's for the first time in ten years or so. So that's a relatively minor
portion of the developers time. 

Comparable, for instance, with the time spent on vain attempts to tell
people that reading from top to bottom is easier for some than the 
other way round..

Andre'

Re: Banner, Splash Screen, Logo, Mascot, Name, oh my!

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote:


Guys, don't you believe your investing way too much time in this line of
problems? :)



It's for the first time in ten years or so. So that's a relatively minor
portion of the developers time.


  It's also spring cleaning time, so why not clean the image, web site,
wiki, etc.?

Rich

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Re: Best approach to using lyx with a university provided style file?

[Ryan Cross]

I didn't read your whole post (also writing my thesis) but found this
highly helpful 
http://www.threewordslong.com/blog/entry/63/A_LyX_Thesis_Layout_for_UNSW_T

It helps that I am a student at UNSW, but it might give you the right idea.

-Ryan

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:12 AM, B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,

  I'm just starting to work on my thesis and thought I would take a closer
  look at getting the appropriate style to work.

  I have to warn you all I've only made simple use of latex, and have been
  using LyX for most of my writing.

  When using an external format before I've simply exported the lyx file
  to latex, applied the new style for the conference, and edited by hand
  where needed, which has been a headache.

  Now the format for my thesis (in the form of a .sty file) makes my other
   formats simplistic, and I'm having lots of trouble. I'll try to reduce
  this to the central details.

  First I took the article.layout file, copied it into a new name, and
  added \usepackage{csthesis.sty} in the preamble section as such:

  Preamble
 \usepackage{csthesis}
  EndPreamble

  I also added and texhashed the sty file so that lyx could find it.

  I confirm that article(csthesis) is listed as a document class in Lyx.

  The layout file simply controls how the document appears in Lyx, and
  does not have any effect on the output, correct?

  So I generated a few DVIs and noticed that the example thesis, that came
  with the package, bears little resemblance to my own output.

  In order to test I imported the latex example file, included with the
  package, into lyx and tried to generate output.

  First problem was that I got the following error:

  LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.

  Lyx highlights the first \qualification{} command.

  All the google references I found talked about this error in terms of
  using \\, which is not in the document.

  Aside: I did notice that just before the qualification a \maketitle
  command in the view-source window. What I don't understand is that
  command is not visible as ERT or in any way in the normal lyx view.

  So I did the logical thing of commenting out (with a preceding % sign)
  in front of both the \qualification{} commands. Once that is done Lyx
  will generate output, the style of the title is incorrect.

  So I exported a second latex file from this document, and commented out
  the \maketitle command.

  Once that is done I can generate a proper looking document using latex
  directly on that tex document.

  I'm happy that I've been able to get something to work at all, but how
  can I use the proper style in LyX directly without having to manually
  edit the tex file after exporting?

  Why does the \maketitle command get added when I import the tex?

  Why does output bail on the \qualification{} commands?

  Why does the output of the document using the layout that uses the
  thesis style file not generate output that resembles the sample file?

  I've attached a few files to make things more clear:

  csthesis.sty is the University provided style file.

  sfuthesis.sty is a copy of article.layout with the csthesis package used.

  bbtest.tex is a shorted version of the sample text file that came with
  the university style file, without any hand-changes. Note it does not
  include a \makeletter command, but generates a nice title according to
  the university specs when using latex by hand.

  I may be the first person to use LyX with this style at my University,
  and considering how happy I am with LyX in general, I hope solving these
  issues will encourage students in the future to use LyX.

  Thanks for your time,
  any pointers or suggestions appreciated.

  B. Bogart


 #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
  #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article (sfuthesis)}

  Preamble
 \usepackage{csthesis}
  EndPreamble

  Format 4
  Input stdclass.inc

  SecNumDepth 3
  TocDepth3

  NoStyle Chapter
  NoStyle Chapter*


  Style Part
 Align Left
 AlignPossible Left
 TopSep2
 BottomSep 1.5
 Font
   SizeLarger
 EndFont
  End


  Style Part*
 Align Left
 AlignPossible Left
 TopSep2
 BottomSep 1.5
 Font
   SizeLarger
 EndFont
  End

Re: character encoding issue with pdf production..

[Eitan Suez]

fyi, i just fixed my problem.
i don't believe i realized (or more probably i forgot)
that i had to manually tell lyx to reconfigure itself
after downloading and installing new fonts.

/ eitan


On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Eitan Suez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 following up on my previous post:

 i have a lyx document with the preamble specifying to use
 the font beramono for the non-proportional font
 (e.g. for lyx-code sections).

 when i produce the dvi or pdf, angle brackets:  
 appear as upside down question marks and upside down
 exclamation marks.  my previous message about this issue
 (with the same subject line) includes screenshots.

 my locale is english/us.

 any idea on why this font would be behaving this way?
 i have produced dvi's using the same font in the past that
 didn't exhibit this problem.  on the same os.  the main difference
 being a different distribution of ubuntu (was gutsy vs now hardy)
 has a change taken place in
 the implementation to the font that would cause this
 problem?  any idea how to change it back?  where can i
 find resources on understanding how such fonts are implemented
 so i can get to the core of this issue?

 thanks in advance,
 / eitan

Re: Best approach to using lyx with a university provided style file?

[Bob Lounsbury]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:12 PM, B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,

  I'm just starting to work on my thesis and thought I would take a closer
  look at getting the appropriate style to work.

  I have to warn you all I've only made simple use of latex, and have been
  using LyX for most of my writing.

  When using an external format before I've simply exported the lyx file
  to latex, applied the new style for the conference, and edited by hand
  where needed, which has been a headache.

  Now the format for my thesis (in the form of a .sty file) makes my other
   formats simplistic, and I'm having lots of trouble. I'll try to reduce
  this to the central details.

  First I took the article.layout file, copied it into a new name, and
  added \usepackage{csthesis.sty} in the preamble section as such:

  Preamble
 \usepackage{csthesis}
  EndPreamble

You don't need to add this preamble stuff to your layout file. When
you specify ' \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article
(sfuthesis)}' you are already telling LyX that you want it to use
csthesis.sty. I don't even know if you can add preamble stuff in this
manner.

Also, you say your layout file is called sfuthesis.sty this is not
correct, it should be sfuthesis.layout, since it's a LyX layout file
not a LaTeX style file. I'm surprised that LyX is recognizing this
layout if it does not have the proper extension '.layout.


  I also added and texhashed the sty file so that lyx could find it.

Where did you place the csthesis.sty?

  I confirm that article(csthesis) is listed as a document class in Lyx.

This doesn't make sense since you have:
\DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article (sfuthesis)} in some
sort of layout file.

This means in LyX it should be 'article (sfuthesis)' not 'article (csthesis)'

  LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.

Before we worry about errors. Let's be sure you've set things up
correctly. It seems you're on the right track, but I'm still confused
how you set everything up.

The csthesis.sty should be placed in a localtexmf directory where
LaTeX recognizes it. Then you should create your sfuthesis.layout
where LyX recognizes it and delete the preamble stuff you have in the
file.

I think these changes may eliminate some of the errors. It's also
helpful to know what operating system you're using.

Cheers,
/Bob

Re: Primary colours of LyX? Was: Website re-design ideas

[John]

On Saturday 29 March 2008 04:20:21 am AK wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Joost Verburg wrote:

  Logo  graphical profile
 
  Any company needs a logo and preferably a graphical profile to make
  themselves known to their customers.
 
  Think of the big companies, think of IBM: stripy and blue, McDonalds:
  M and yellow. They are graphical profiles that helps give them an
  image that sticks in customers minds. Not only do they help the
  business stand out, but it also creates a reputation. IBM's logo gives
  a very traditional feel, serene and solid. It represents something you
  can rely on in the marketplace. While the McDonalds logo is dynamic
  and fun, inviting you to a feel-good experience.
 
  A graphical profile spans logo, colours, business cards, stationeries,
  and a range of supplies for commercial purposes.


 People will
 remember the Platypus, though, but we already have that.
I've used LyX from the beginning - and love it!

But in all the time that the logo has been there it never occurred to me that 
it was a platypus, despite being familiar with the O'Reilly like platypus 
associated with the original example document.

While I would much prefer that the developers worry about improving and 
debugging an already superb product rather than fuss over the logo, if you 
must tinker with the logo, please make it resemble a platypus! 

Probably just changing the beak shape, and toning down those awful cartoon  
colours would be enough.

John O'Gorman
 So, to sum up, 
 we should have a color scheme that will be shared between site template
 and splash screen, and probably use a standard font face like Verdana or
 something similar for now, and have the Platypus as the main
 recognizable identifier of all things LyX. -andrei

Re: Banner, Splash Screen, Logo, Mascot, Name, oh my!

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Rich Shepard wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote:

Guys, don't you believe your investing way too much time in this 
line of

problems? :)



It's for the first time in ten years or so. So that's a relatively minor
portion of the developers time.


  It's also spring cleaning time, so why not clean the image, web site,
wiki, etc.?


As long as you keep your good will and energy, every thing's possible :-)

Abdel.

Re: Primary colours of LyX? Was: Website re-design ideas

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, AK wrote:


 A graphical profile spans logo, colours, business cards, stationeries, and
 a range of supplies for commercial purposes.

Mostly, for the project like LyX, I believe that graphical profile 
should be just a palette of colors and the logo.


Ok.

The only additional thing we could do is a custom 'mathy' font face, 
incorporating some characters used in math formulas, ...


I don't think that's necessary...

snip


In case of a company like IBM... snip


You certainly seems to know this stuff! :-)

For LyX, I would say, it's more important to have a logo and template 
that look nice and pleasing to the eye.


Ok, agreed.

There will probably be many other sites that use similar color scheme, 
unless we do bright yellow on orange design, which is bad for other 
reasons. So, a casual user or someone entirely new won't think 'of 
course that's LyX color profile', but instead will think 'this design is 
nice' or 'this design isn't very nice' where the first reaction is 
preferable.


Sounds good.

People will remember the Platypus, though, but we already have that. So, 
to sum up, we should have a color scheme that will be shared between 
site template and splash screen, and probably use a standard font face 
like Verdana or something similar for now, and have the Platypus as the 
main recognizable identifier of all things LyX. -andrei


Great, sounds like a plan :-)

I wrote down your thoughts here:

http://www.lyx.org/~chr/www/index.php/Main/GraphicalProfile

Whatever we agree on, we need to document it somewhere. Hmm... maybe I 
should have used the wiki instead.


/Christian


--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Banner, Splash Screen, Logo, Mascot, Name, oh my!

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


Rich Shepard wrote:

 On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote:

   Guys, don't you believe your investing way too much time in this 
   line of

   problems? :)

  It's for the first time in ten years or so. So that's a relatively 
  minor

  portion of the developers time.

   It's also spring cleaning time, so why not clean the image, web site,
 wiki, etc.?


As long as you keep your good will and energy, every thing's possible :-)


Well, I'm doing this because it's fun! :-)

/C

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Does the logo look like a platypus? (Was: Primary colours of LyX? )Was: Website re-design ideas

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, John wrote:


People will remember the Platypus, though, but we already have that.


But in all the time that the logo has been there it never occurred to me 
that it was a platypus, despite being familiar with the O'Reilly like 
platypus associated with the original example document.


Same here... and I even saw it recently in an old book from Stroustrup 
that I was reading!


While I would much prefer that the developers worry about improving and 
debugging an already superb product rather than fuss over the logo, if 
you must tinker with the logo, please make it resemble a platypus!


Probably just changing the beak shape, and toning down those awful cartoon
colours would be enough.


Hear, hear!
/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: BibLaTeX blues

[Maksi]

On 2008-03-27 23:14:40 +0100, Julio Rojas 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:




Guys, BibLaTeX rules!!! I'm working my way thru the files and up until now,
I have been able to mimic the format APA uses for the article records. It's
hard, but not as hard as BibTeX.

If someone is interested on an APAlike style in BibLaTeX, please, let me
know.

Best regards.


Glad to hear that. I also think that biblatex really will become the 
major tool for BibTeX. If you have found a quick and easy way to edit 
styles, would you like to add it to the biblatex page in the LyX wiki? 
That would be nice.


Cheers,

Maksi

Re: Bibliography Style

[Maksi]

On 2008-03-26 14:37:06 +0100, Julio Rojas 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:



Thanks Max. BTW, is there any application that helps in the migration
from a BibTeX database to a BibLaTeX one? What about maintaining it? I
mean, something like JabRef.


As for the app, I simply continued using BibDesk, so JabRef should be 
just fine. You might have to configure JabRef to make easy use of some 
of the new fields that biblatex offers (e.g. I added a translator-field 
to my templates, a library-field and so on, all fields for which 
biblatex offers interesting support and functionality).


Maksi

Re: Need Urgent Help

[Ankur Verma]

Hi Liviu.

Thanks for your reply.

The problem which I am facing is solved when I remove the equations from
.lyx file.  Now, I can successfully  export the pdf from the  .lyx file,
without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy the
equations into the .lyx file.

I am using Lyx 1.5.4 version on Win XP platform.

Thanks for your time.

Regards,
Ankur Verma

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Ankur Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   I just started working on Lyx and found it very helpful in making tex
 files.
   I am making a report which I have to submit very urgently.
 
   The problem I am facing is: There is no effect by clicking on View pdf
 or
   Update pdf (or either dvi and ps) buttons. Nothing opens up. When I
 delete
   some contents of .lyx file, and then click on these (e.g. View pdf),
 the pdf
   document opens up. By this way, I have to delete some content from .lyx
 file
   which I dont want to do!
 
   I would be very glad if somebody could help me out of this problem
 urgently.

 Difficult to judge. Let's start with the obvious: what platform, LyX
 version, TeX distribution do you use? Can you post somewhere on the
 net the problematic file? What document class do you use? Is there
 anything specific about the text you delete? Do you have the same
 problem when you simply File  Export and then manually open the
 resulting, say, .pdf with a PDF viewer?
 Liviu




-- 
Ankur Verma
Student, NSIT, University of Delhi.

Re: Need Urgent Help

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Ankur Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The problem which I am facing is solved when I remove the equations from
  .lyx file.  Now, I can successfully  export the pdf from the  .lyx file,
  without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy the
  equations into the .lyx file.

I'd try exporting the lyx file to latex and looking at the latex file produced.

Which equations cause the problem? All of them?

Perhaps you could provide either the LyX file with the problem, the
Latex file generated and/or an example of an equation that is causing
you trouble.

You can navigate to the equation giving you trouble and View-View
Source and then cut and paste the LaTeX Source into your email.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Need Urgent Help

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Ankur Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy the
 equations into the .lyx file.

Could not say whether this would lead anywhere, but how exactly did
you enter the equations (using ERT or graphically through LyX)? If you
use equations, wouldn't you need to use some specific pacakge in the
Preamble? It might also help to check whether this is a font problem.
Liviu

Re: Need Urgent Help

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Ankur Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy the
equations into the .lyx file.


Could not say whether this would lead anywhere, but how exactly did
you enter the equations (using ERT or graphically through LyX)? If you
use equations, wouldn't you need to use some specific pacakge in the
Preamble? It might also help to check whether this is a font problem.
Liviu


Please stop cross posting to the devel list.

Abdel.

Re: Need Urgent Help

[Ankur Verma]

Hi Liviu and John.

Thank you for your help.

I am entering the equations graphically thorugh LyX. After some tweaking, I
can succesfully export the pdf from it, but don't know how is it working!

I entered the equation and they were in blue color like this:

RH=c1+c2*result+c3*result^{2}

but when I clicked around the equation for some time and pressed space bar,
it turned into black color whose view was like the actual equation (like the
one we will see in the final pdf document).

I am happy that it is working, but would like to know how it did?

Thanks guys for your help. LyX is really cool!

Sincerely,
Ankur Verma
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John McCabe-Dansted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Ankur Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   The problem which I am facing is solved when I remove the equations
 from
   .lyx file.  Now, I can successfully  export the pdf from the  .lyx
 file,
   without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy
 the
   equations into the .lyx file.

 I'd try exporting the lyx file to latex and looking at the latex file
 produced.

 Which equations cause the problem? All of them?

 Perhaps you could provide either the LyX file with the problem, the
 Latex file generated and/or an example of an equation that is causing
 you trouble.

 You can navigate to the equation giving you trouble and View-View
 Source and then cut and paste the LaTeX Source into your email.

 --
 John C. McCabe-Dansted
 PhD Student
 University of Western Australia

making 1 small mod to layout

[Neal Becker]

I want to allow paragraph in amsart.

One way is copy amsart.layout to my .lyx/layouts, and just comment out
NoStyle paragraph

Is there a way to just include the standard system file, and just make a
1-line .lyx/layouts that makes this modification?

Re: BibLaTeX blues

[Julio Rojas]

There's no quick and easy way. Just reading the files and manual, thou
biblatex-DW style helped a lot (even if the source code is commented in
german!!!).

I'll try to do something helpful.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Maksi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On 2008-03-27 23:14:40 +0100, Julio Rojas
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 
  Guys, BibLaTeX rules!!! I'm working my way thru the files and up until
 now,
  I have been able to mimic the format APA uses for the article records.
 It's
  hard, but not as hard as BibTeX.
 
  If someone is interested on an APAlike style in BibLaTeX, please, let me
  know.
 
  Best regards.

 Glad to hear that. I also think that biblatex really will become the
 major tool for BibTeX. If you have found a quick and easy way to edit
 styles, would you like to add it to the biblatex page in the LyX wiki?
 That would be nice.

 Cheers,

 Maksi





-- 
-
Julio Rojas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Primary colours of LyX? Was: Website re-design ideas

[AK]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Joost Verburg wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do LyX have some sort of primary colours?  Or some kind of colour
 theme?  My company spent money on letting a designer come up with a 
colour
 set, where we should try and use a certain combo of colours... Do 
we have

 something like that?


In my opinion a color set should be a part of the new design.


Ok, but less easy... now I remember what it was called, she referred 
to it as the 'graphial profile'. It involved more than just colours, 
also what fonts we should use etc. Anyway, the designer we used 
apparantly spent quite a bit of time thinking this through somehow.. I 
just wonder if we'll be able to come up with something useful. But 
maybe this is were Andrei's expertise comes into play?


According to my gf it's non trival, and apparantly related to 
branding... and we should start with what LyX represents, and what 
its core values are how are we different from the competition... 
sigh, can't we just do development? ;-)


Actually, it's probably a good idea to see what kind of graphial 
profiles OO, MS Word, Abi Word and LaTeX have?


/Christian

PS. I tried finding some kind of explanation of what a graphical 
profile is... this sounds like the thing I meant. From

http://moonmanstudio.com/graphicalprofile.php


Logo  graphical profile

Any company needs a logo and preferably a graphical profile to make 
themselves known to their customers.


Think of the big companies, think of IBM: stripy and blue, McDonalds: 
M and yellow. They are graphical profiles that helps give them an 
image that sticks in customers minds. Not only do they help the 
business stand out, but it also creates a reputation. IBM's logo gives 
a very traditional feel, serene and solid. It represents something you 
can rely on in the marketplace. While the McDonalds logo is dynamic 
and fun, inviting you to a feel-good experience.


A graphical profile spans logo, colours, business cards, stationeries, 
and a range of supplies for commercial purposes.


Mostly, for the project like LyX, I believe that graphical profile 
should be just a palette of colors and the logo. The only additional 
thing we could do is a custom 'mathy' font face, incorporating some 
characters used in math formulas, but that'd take more time than I have 
at the moment to spend on this, I would say that this could take quite a 
bit of effort to do well. In case of a company like IBM, the same color 
scheme and custom fonts are used for print ads, booklets, letter forms, 
tv ads, billboards, splash screen in programs, website, intranet, signs 
in front of buildings, space design on trade shows and I'm probably 
forgetting many things here. Note that the UI of programs made by IBM 
will use native colors of the platform, for the most part. For them, 
maintaining the same graphical profile is more important, firstly, 
because use in each instance will reinforce impact of the design in all 
other instances, and secondly, because they can manage enough 
advertising saturation that the design is imprinted in visual memory and 
is not seen as 'blue logo design with stripes' but immediately as 'ibm 
design'. For LyX, I would say, it's more important to have a logo and 
template that look nice and pleasing to the eye. There will probably be 
many other sites that use similar color scheme, unless we do bright 
yellow on orange design, which is bad for other reasons. So, a casual 
user or someone entirely new won't think 'of course that's LyX color 
profile', but instead will think 'this design is nice' or 'this design 
isn't very nice' where the first reaction is preferable. People will 
remember the Platypus, though, but we already have that. So, to sum up, 
we should have a color scheme that will be shared between site template 
and splash screen, and probably use a standard font face like Verdana or 
something similar for now, and have the Platypus as the main 
recognizable identifier of all things LyX. -andrei


--
-ak
 Tobu | http://www.lightbird.net/tobu/ | Freeform DB / Tagger / PIM

Re: Contents of Preamble...EndPreamble in Layout not being output to tex file

[rgheck]

Geevarghese Philip wrote:

Geevarghese Philip wrote:

Geevarghese Philip wrote:
the layout file you attached solves my problem of getting sequential 
theorems,


This works as intended for the dvi/ps/pdf versions. I guess I am being 
greedy, but if only I could make LyX display the theorems with a 
sequential numbering, instead of prepending the subsection number to 
the theorem
Try the attached. You'll get a warning about counter redefinition, but 
it works.


rh

#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[report]{amsreport}

Format 4

Input stdclass.inc
Input numreport.inc

Style Bibliography
TopSep4
LabelString   Bibliography
LabelFont
  Series  Bold
  SizeHuge
EndFont
End

Input amsdefs.inc
Input amsmaths-seq.inc

Re: Bibliography Style

[rgheck]

Maksi wrote:

On 2008-03-26 14:37:06 +0100, Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


Thanks Max. BTW, is there any application that helps in the migration
from a BibTeX database to a BibLaTeX one? What about maintaining it? I
mean, something like JabRef.


As for the app, I simply continued using BibDesk, so JabRef should be 
just fine. You might have to configure JabRef to make easy use of some 
of the new fields that biblatex offers (e.g. I added a 
translator-field to my templates, a library-field and so on, all 
fields for which biblatex offers interesting support and functionality).


There are remarks at various points in the BibLaTeX docs suggesting 
changes were made to keep it compatible with JabRef.


rh

Re: making 1 small mod to layout

[rgheck]

Neal Becker wrote:

I want to allow paragraph in amsart.

One way is copy amsart.layout to my .lyx/layouts, and just comment out
NoStyle paragraph

Is there a way to just include the standard system file, and just make a
1-line .lyx/layouts that makes this modification?
  
If I understand the question, no. If you included amsart, then Paragraph 
would already be gone, and you'd have to redefine it. Which you could 
do, of course.


rh

Re: Beamer and columns problem (bug?)

[Paul A. Rubin]

Graeme wrote:

I am using LyX1.5.4-1 on WinXP, with the Beamer document class.

When I select the style ColumnsTopAligned within a frame, Lyx inserts

\begin{topcolumns}%{}

\end{topcolumns}%{}

as can easily be checked with the View Source window.

However, it seems impossible to enter any text between these \begin{} 
and \end{} statements.


If I simply hit Return on the line that says Columns (top aligned), then 
try to style the next line with the Column style, Lyx takes me 
completely outside the topcolumns environment, again as can be seen from 
the View Source window.


I get the same problems with the ColumnsCenterAligned and the simple 
Columns styles.


Am I missing something really obvious, or is this a bug with Lyx 1.5.4?


You're missing something ... whether it's really obvious or not is a 
matter of opinion. :-)


First insert the Columns environment.  Underneath that, insert a Column 
environment and fill in the width (including units, e.g. 40mm).  Now 
nest the Column environment under the Columns environment (Edit - 
Increase List Depth or M-S-right or the tool button that looks like an 
item list with a left-to-right arrow). Then type in whatever you want in 
the column and nest it as well.


/Paul

Re: Beamer and columns problem (bug?)

[Graeme]

Graeme wrote:

I am using LyX1.5.4-1 on WinXP, with the Beamer document class.

When I select the style ColumnsTopAligned within a frame, Lyx inserts


\begin{topcolumns}%{}

\end{topcolumns}%{}

as can easily be checked with the View Source window.


However, it seems impossible to enter any text between these \begin{}
and \end{} statements.

If I simply hit Return on the line that says Columns (top aligned),
then try to style the next line with the Column style, Lyx takes me
completely outside the topcolumns environment, again as can be seen
from the View Source window.

I get the same problems with the ColumnsCenterAligned and the simple
Columns styles.

Am I missing something really obvious, or is this a bug with Lyx
1.5.4?


 
You're missing something ... whether it's really obvious or not is a

matter of opinion. :-)

First insert the Columns environment. Underneath that, insert a
Column environment and fill in the width (including units, e.g.
40mm). Now nest the Column environment under the Columns environment
(Edit - Increase List Depth or M-S-right or the tool button that
looks like an item list with a left-to-right arrow). Then type in
whatever you want in the column and nest it as well.

/Paul


Paul

Thanks for your helpful reply. It was the need to Increase Depth that I 
did not find sufficiently obvious...


Graeme

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Best approach to using lyx with a university provided style file?

[B. Bogart]

Hello all,

I'm just starting to work on my thesis and thought I would take a closer
look at getting the appropriate style to work.

I have to warn you all I've only made simple use of latex, and have been
using LyX for most of my writing.

When using an external format before I've simply exported the lyx file
to latex, applied the new style for the conference, and edited by hand
where needed, which has been a headache.

Now the format for my thesis (in the form of a .sty file) makes my other
 formats simplistic, and I'm having lots of trouble. I'll try to reduce
this to the central details.

First I took the article.layout file, copied it into a new name, and
added \usepackage{csthesis.sty} in the preamble section as such:

Preamble
\usepackage{csthesis}
EndPreamble

I also added and texhashed the sty file so that lyx could find it.

I confirm that article(csthesis) is listed as a document class in Lyx.

The layout file simply controls how the document appears in Lyx, and
does not have any effect on the output, correct?

So I generated a few DVIs and noticed that the example thesis, that came
with the package, bears little resemblance to my own output.

In order to test I imported the latex example file, included with the
package, into lyx and tried to generate output.

First problem was that I got the following error:

LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.

Lyx highlights the first \qualification{} command.

All the google references I found talked about this error in terms of
using \\, which is not in the document.

Aside: I did notice that just before the qualification a \maketitle
command in the view-source window. What I don't understand is that
command is not visible as ERT or in any way in the normal lyx view.

So I did the logical thing of commenting out (with a preceding % sign)
in front of both the \qualification{} commands. Once that is done Lyx
will generate output, the style of the title is incorrect.

So I exported a second latex file from this document, and commented out
the \maketitle command.

Once that is done I can generate a proper looking document using latex
directly on that tex document.

I'm happy that I've been able to get something to work at all, but how
can I use the proper style in LyX directly without having to manually
edit the tex file after exporting?

Why does the \maketitle command get added when I import the tex?

Why does output bail on the \qualification{} commands?

Why does the output of the document using the layout that uses the
thesis style file not generate output that resembles the sample file?

I've attached a few files to make things more clear:

csthesis.sty is the University provided style file.

sfuthesis.sty is a copy of article.layout with the csthesis package used.

bbtest.tex is a shorted version of the sample text file that came with
the university style file, without any hand-changes. Note it does not
include a \makeletter command, but generates a nice title according to
the university specs when using latex by hand.

I may be the first person to use LyX with this style at my University,
and considering how happy I am with LyX in general, I hope solving these
issues will encourage students in the future to use LyX.

Thanks for your time,
any pointers or suggestions appreciated.

B. Bogart

#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article (sfuthesis)}

Preamble
\usepackage{csthesis}
EndPreamble

Format 4
Input stdclass.inc

SecNumDepth 3
TocDepth3

NoStyle Chapter
NoStyle Chapter*


Style Part
Align Left
AlignPossible Left
TopSep2
BottomSep 1.5
Font
  SizeLarger
EndFont
End


Style Part*
Align Left
AlignPossible Left
TopSep2
BottomSep 1.5
Font
  SizeLarger
EndFont
End

%%
%% This is file `csthesis.sty',
%% generated with the docstrip utility.
%%
%% The original source files were:
%%
%% csthesis.dtx  (with options: `package')
%% 
%% IMPORTANT NOTICE:
%% 
%% For the copyright see the source file.
%% 
%% Any modified versions of this file must be renamed
%% with new filenames distinct from csthesis.sty.
%% 
%% For distribution of the original source see the terms
%% for copying and modification in the file csthesis.dtx.
%% 
%% This generated file may be distributed as long as the
%% original source files, as listed above, are part of the
%% same distribution. (The sources need not necessarily be
%% in the same archive or directory.)
%%
%% Comp. Science, SFU thesis style `csthesis', to be used with LaTeX2e
%% Copyright (C) 1998 Petr Pp Kubon
%%
%% History:
%%   1) 1989: Created by Stephen Chan (CSS) from Stanford PhD Thesis style
%%   2) 1996: Modifications and additions by Margaret Sharon (ACS)
%%   3) 

character encoding issue with pdf production..

[Eitan Suez]

following up on my previous post:

i have a lyx document with the preamble specifying to use
the font beramono for the non-proportional font
(e.g. for lyx-code sections).

when i produce the dvi or pdf, angle brackets:  
appear as upside down question marks and upside down
exclamation marks.  my previous message about this issue
(with the same subject line) includes screenshots.

my locale is english/us.

any idea on why this font would be behaving this way?
i have produced dvi's using the same font in the past that
didn't exhibit this problem.  on the same os.  the main difference
being a different distribution of ubuntu (was gutsy vs now hardy)
has a change taken place in
the implementation to the font that would cause this
problem?  any idea how to change it back?  where can i
find resources on understanding how such fonts are implemented
so i can get to the core of this issue?

thanks in advance,
/ eitan

Re: Banner, Splash Screen, Logo, Mascot, Name, oh my!

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:44:49PM -0430, Julio Rojas wrote:
 Guys, don't you believe your investing way too much time in this line of
 problems? :)

It's for the first time in ten years or so. So that's a relatively minor
portion of the developers time. 

Comparable, for instance, with the time spent on vain attempts to tell
people that reading from top to bottom is easier for some than the 
other way round..

Andre'

Re: Banner, Splash Screen, Logo, Mascot, Name, oh my!

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote:


Guys, don't you believe your investing way too much time in this line of
problems? :)



It's for the first time in ten years or so. So that's a relatively minor
portion of the developers time.


  It's also spring cleaning time, so why not clean the image, web site,
wiki, etc.?

Rich

--
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http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Best approach to using lyx with a university provided style file?

[Ryan Cross]

I didn't read your whole post (also writing my thesis) but found this
highly helpful 
http://www.threewordslong.com/blog/entry/63/A_LyX_Thesis_Layout_for_UNSW_T

It helps that I am a student at UNSW, but it might give you the right idea.

-Ryan

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:12 AM, B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,

  I'm just starting to work on my thesis and thought I would take a closer
  look at getting the appropriate style to work.

  I have to warn you all I've only made simple use of latex, and have been
  using LyX for most of my writing.

  When using an external format before I've simply exported the lyx file
  to latex, applied the new style for the conference, and edited by hand
  where needed, which has been a headache.

  Now the format for my thesis (in the form of a .sty file) makes my other
   formats simplistic, and I'm having lots of trouble. I'll try to reduce
  this to the central details.

  First I took the article.layout file, copied it into a new name, and
  added \usepackage{csthesis.sty} in the preamble section as such:

  Preamble
 \usepackage{csthesis}
  EndPreamble

  I also added and texhashed the sty file so that lyx could find it.

  I confirm that article(csthesis) is listed as a document class in Lyx.

  The layout file simply controls how the document appears in Lyx, and
  does not have any effect on the output, correct?

  So I generated a few DVIs and noticed that the example thesis, that came
  with the package, bears little resemblance to my own output.

  In order to test I imported the latex example file, included with the
  package, into lyx and tried to generate output.

  First problem was that I got the following error:

  LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.

  Lyx highlights the first \qualification{} command.

  All the google references I found talked about this error in terms of
  using \\, which is not in the document.

  Aside: I did notice that just before the qualification a \maketitle
  command in the view-source window. What I don't understand is that
  command is not visible as ERT or in any way in the normal lyx view.

  So I did the logical thing of commenting out (with a preceding % sign)
  in front of both the \qualification{} commands. Once that is done Lyx
  will generate output, the style of the title is incorrect.

  So I exported a second latex file from this document, and commented out
  the \maketitle command.

  Once that is done I can generate a proper looking document using latex
  directly on that tex document.

  I'm happy that I've been able to get something to work at all, but how
  can I use the proper style in LyX directly without having to manually
  edit the tex file after exporting?

  Why does the \maketitle command get added when I import the tex?

  Why does output bail on the \qualification{} commands?

  Why does the output of the document using the layout that uses the
  thesis style file not generate output that resembles the sample file?

  I've attached a few files to make things more clear:

  csthesis.sty is the University provided style file.

  sfuthesis.sty is a copy of article.layout with the csthesis package used.

  bbtest.tex is a shorted version of the sample text file that came with
  the university style file, without any hand-changes. Note it does not
  include a \makeletter command, but generates a nice title according to
  the university specs when using latex by hand.

  I may be the first person to use LyX with this style at my University,
  and considering how happy I am with LyX in general, I hope solving these
  issues will encourage students in the future to use LyX.

  Thanks for your time,
  any pointers or suggestions appreciated.

  B. Bogart


 #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
  #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article (sfuthesis)}

  Preamble
 \usepackage{csthesis}
  EndPreamble

  Format 4
  Input stdclass.inc

  SecNumDepth 3
  TocDepth3

  NoStyle Chapter
  NoStyle Chapter*


  Style Part
 Align Left
 AlignPossible Left
 TopSep2
 BottomSep 1.5
 Font
   SizeLarger
 EndFont
  End


  Style Part*
 Align Left
 AlignPossible Left
 TopSep2
 BottomSep 1.5
 Font
   SizeLarger
 EndFont
  End

Re: character encoding issue with pdf production..

[Eitan Suez]

fyi, i just fixed my problem.
i don't believe i realized (or more probably i forgot)
that i had to manually tell lyx to reconfigure itself
after downloading and installing new fonts.

/ eitan


On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Eitan Suez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 following up on my previous post:

 i have a lyx document with the preamble specifying to use
 the font beramono for the non-proportional font
 (e.g. for lyx-code sections).

 when i produce the dvi or pdf, angle brackets:  
 appear as upside down question marks and upside down
 exclamation marks.  my previous message about this issue
 (with the same subject line) includes screenshots.

 my locale is english/us.

 any idea on why this font would be behaving this way?
 i have produced dvi's using the same font in the past that
 didn't exhibit this problem.  on the same os.  the main difference
 being a different distribution of ubuntu (was gutsy vs now hardy)
 has a change taken place in
 the implementation to the font that would cause this
 problem?  any idea how to change it back?  where can i
 find resources on understanding how such fonts are implemented
 so i can get to the core of this issue?

 thanks in advance,
 / eitan

Re: Best approach to using lyx with a university provided style file?

[Bob Lounsbury]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:12 PM, B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,

  I'm just starting to work on my thesis and thought I would take a closer
  look at getting the appropriate style to work.

  I have to warn you all I've only made simple use of latex, and have been
  using LyX for most of my writing.

  When using an external format before I've simply exported the lyx file
  to latex, applied the new style for the conference, and edited by hand
  where needed, which has been a headache.

  Now the format for my thesis (in the form of a .sty file) makes my other
   formats simplistic, and I'm having lots of trouble. I'll try to reduce
  this to the central details.

  First I took the article.layout file, copied it into a new name, and
  added \usepackage{csthesis.sty} in the preamble section as such:

  Preamble
 \usepackage{csthesis}
  EndPreamble

You don't need to add this preamble stuff to your layout file. When
you specify ' \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article
(sfuthesis)}' you are already telling LyX that you want it to use
csthesis.sty. I don't even know if you can add preamble stuff in this
manner.

Also, you say your layout file is called sfuthesis.sty this is not
correct, it should be sfuthesis.layout, since it's a LyX layout file
not a LaTeX style file. I'm surprised that LyX is recognizing this
layout if it does not have the proper extension '.layout.


  I also added and texhashed the sty file so that lyx could find it.

Where did you place the csthesis.sty?

  I confirm that article(csthesis) is listed as a document class in Lyx.

This doesn't make sense since you have:
\DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article (sfuthesis)} in some
sort of layout file.

This means in LyX it should be 'article (sfuthesis)' not 'article (csthesis)'

  LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.

Before we worry about errors. Let's be sure you've set things up
correctly. It seems you're on the right track, but I'm still confused
how you set everything up.

The csthesis.sty should be placed in a localtexmf directory where
LaTeX recognizes it. Then you should create your sfuthesis.layout
where LyX recognizes it and delete the preamble stuff you have in the
file.

I think these changes may eliminate some of the errors. It's also
helpful to know what operating system you're using.

Cheers,
/Bob

Re: Primary colours of LyX? Was: Website re-design ideas

[John]

On Saturday 29 March 2008 04:20:21 am AK wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Joost Verburg wrote:

  Logo  graphical profile
 
  Any company needs a logo and preferably a graphical profile to make
  themselves known to their customers.
 
  Think of the big companies, think of IBM: stripy and blue, McDonalds:
  M and yellow. They are graphical profiles that helps give them an
  image that sticks in customers minds. Not only do they help the
  business stand out, but it also creates a reputation. IBM's logo gives
  a very traditional feel, serene and solid. It represents something you
  can rely on in the marketplace. While the McDonalds logo is dynamic
  and fun, inviting you to a feel-good experience.
 
  A graphical profile spans logo, colours, business cards, stationeries,
  and a range of supplies for commercial purposes.


 People will
 remember the Platypus, though, but we already have that.
I've used LyX from the beginning - and love it!

But in all the time that the logo has been there it never occurred to me that 
it was a platypus, despite being familiar with the O'Reilly like platypus 
associated with the original example document.

While I would much prefer that the developers worry about improving and 
debugging an already superb product rather than fuss over the logo, if you 
must tinker with the logo, please make it resemble a platypus! 

Probably just changing the beak shape, and toning down those awful cartoon  
colours would be enough.

John O'Gorman
 So, to sum up, 
 we should have a color scheme that will be shared between site template
 and splash screen, and probably use a standard font face like Verdana or
 something similar for now, and have the Platypus as the main
 recognizable identifier of all things LyX. -andrei

Re: Banner, Splash Screen, Logo, Mascot, Name, oh my!

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Rich Shepard wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote:

Guys, don't you believe your investing way too much time in this 
line of

problems? :)



It's for the first time in ten years or so. So that's a relatively minor
portion of the developers time.


  It's also spring cleaning time, so why not clean the image, web site,
wiki, etc.?


As long as you keep your good will and energy, every thing's possible :-)

Abdel.

Re: Primary colours of LyX? Was: Website re-design ideas

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, AK wrote:


 A graphical profile spans logo, colours, business cards, stationeries, and
 a range of supplies for commercial purposes.

Mostly, for the project like LyX, I believe that graphical profile 
should be just a palette of colors and the logo.


Ok.

The only additional thing we could do is a custom 'mathy' font face, 
incorporating some characters used in math formulas, ...


I don't think that's necessary...

snip


In case of a company like IBM... snip


You certainly seems to know this stuff! :-)

For LyX, I would say, it's more important to have a logo and template 
that look nice and pleasing to the eye.


Ok, agreed.

There will probably be many other sites that use similar color scheme, 
unless we do bright yellow on orange design, which is bad for other 
reasons. So, a casual user or someone entirely new won't think 'of 
course that's LyX color profile', but instead will think 'this design is 
nice' or 'this design isn't very nice' where the first reaction is 
preferable.


Sounds good.

People will remember the Platypus, though, but we already have that. So, 
to sum up, we should have a color scheme that will be shared between 
site template and splash screen, and probably use a standard font face 
like Verdana or something similar for now, and have the Platypus as the 
main recognizable identifier of all things LyX. -andrei


Great, sounds like a plan :-)

I wrote down your thoughts here:

http://www.lyx.org/~chr/www/index.php/Main/GraphicalProfile

Whatever we agree on, we need to document it somewhere. Hmm... maybe I 
should have used the wiki instead.


/Christian


--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Banner, Splash Screen, Logo, Mascot, Name, oh my!

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


Rich Shepard wrote:

 On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote:

   Guys, don't you believe your investing way too much time in this 
   line of

   problems? :)

  It's for the first time in ten years or so. So that's a relatively 
  minor

  portion of the developers time.

   It's also spring cleaning time, so why not clean the image, web site,
 wiki, etc.?


As long as you keep your good will and energy, every thing's possible :-)


Well, I'm doing this because it's fun! :-)

/C

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Does the logo look like a platypus? (Was: Primary colours of LyX? )Was: Website re-design ideas

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, John wrote:


People will remember the Platypus, though, but we already have that.


But in all the time that the logo has been there it never occurred to me 
that it was a platypus, despite being familiar with the O'Reilly like 
platypus associated with the original example document.


Same here... and I even saw it recently in an old book from Stroustrup 
that I was reading!


While I would much prefer that the developers worry about improving and 
debugging an already superb product rather than fuss over the logo, if 
you must tinker with the logo, please make it resemble a platypus!


Probably just changing the beak shape, and toning down those awful cartoon
colours would be enough.


Hear, hear!
/Christian

--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: BibLaTeX blues

[Maksi]

On 2008-03-27 23:14:40 +0100, "Julio Rojas" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:




Guys, BibLaTeX rules!!! I'm working my way thru the files and up until now,
I have been able to mimic the format APA uses for the article records. It's
hard, but not as hard as BibTeX.

If someone is interested on an APAlike style in BibLaTeX, please, let me
know.

Best regards.


Glad to hear that. I also think that biblatex really will become the 
major tool for BibTeX. If you have found a quick and easy way to edit 
styles, would you like to add it to the biblatex page in the LyX wiki? 
That would be nice.


Cheers,

Maksi

Re: Bibliography Style

[Maksi]

On 2008-03-26 14:37:06 +0100, "Julio Rojas" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:



Thanks Max. BTW, is there any application that helps in the migration
from a BibTeX database to a BibLaTeX one? What about maintaining it? I
mean, something like JabRef.


As for the app, I simply continued using BibDesk, so JabRef should be 
just fine. You might have to configure JabRef to make easy use of some 
of the new fields that biblatex offers (e.g. I added a translator-field 
to my templates, a library-field and so on, all fields for which 
biblatex offers interesting support and functionality).


Maksi

Re: Need Urgent Help

[Ankur Verma]

Hi Liviu.

Thanks for your reply.

The problem which I am facing is solved when I remove the equations from
.lyx file.  Now, I can successfully  export the pdf from the  .lyx file,
without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy the
equations into the .lyx file.

I am using Lyx 1.5.4 version on Win XP platform.

Thanks for your time.

Regards,
Ankur Verma

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Liviu Andronic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Ankur Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >  I just started working on Lyx and found it very helpful in making tex
> files.
> >  I am making a report which I have to submit very urgently.
> >
> >  The problem I am facing is: There is no effect by clicking on View pdf
> or
> >  Update pdf (or either dvi and ps) buttons. Nothing opens up. When I
> delete
> >  some contents of .lyx file, and then click on these (e.g. View pdf),
> the pdf
> >  document opens up. By this way, I have to delete some content from .lyx
> file
> >  which I dont want to do!
> >
> >  I would be very glad if somebody could help me out of this problem
> urgently.
>
> Difficult to judge. Let's start with the obvious: what platform, LyX
> version, TeX distribution do you use? Can you post somewhere on the
> net the problematic file? What document class do you use? Is there
> anything specific about the text you delete? Do you have the same
> problem when you simply "File > Export" and then manually open the
> resulting, say, .pdf with a PDF viewer?
> Liviu
>



-- 
Ankur Verma
Student, NSIT, University of Delhi.

Re: Need Urgent Help

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Ankur Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  The problem which I am facing is solved when I remove the equations from
>  .lyx file.  Now, I can successfully  export the pdf from the  .lyx file,
>  without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy the
>  equations into the .lyx file.

I'd try exporting the lyx file to latex and looking at the latex file produced.

Which equations cause the problem? All of them?

Perhaps you could provide either the LyX file with the problem, the
Latex file generated and/or an example of an equation that is causing
you trouble.

You can navigate to the equation giving you trouble and "View->View
Source" and then cut and paste the LaTeX Source into your email.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Need Urgent Help

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Ankur Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy the
> equations into the .lyx file.

Could not say whether this would lead anywhere, but how exactly did
you enter the equations (using ERT or graphically through LyX)? If you
use equations, wouldn't you need to use some specific pacakge in the
Preamble? It might also help to check whether this is a font problem.
Liviu

Re: Need Urgent Help

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Ankur Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy the
equations into the .lyx file.


Could not say whether this would lead anywhere, but how exactly did
you enter the equations (using ERT or graphically through LyX)? If you
use equations, wouldn't you need to use some specific pacakge in the
Preamble? It might also help to check whether this is a font problem.
Liviu


Please stop cross posting to the devel list.

Abdel.

Re: Need Urgent Help

[Ankur Verma]

Hi Liviu and John.

Thank you for your help.

I am entering the equations graphically thorugh LyX. After some tweaking, I
can succesfully export the pdf from it, but don't know how is it working!

I entered the equation and they were in blue color like this:

RH=c1+c2*result+c3*result^{2}

but when I clicked around the equation for some time and pressed space bar,
it turned into black color whose view was like the actual equation (like the
one we will see in the final pdf document).

I am happy that it is working, but would like to know how it did?

Thanks guys for your help. LyX is really cool!

Sincerely,
Ankur Verma
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John McCabe-Dansted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Ankur Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >  The problem which I am facing is solved when I remove the equations
> from
> >  .lyx file.  Now, I can successfully  export the pdf from the  .lyx
> file,
> >  without the equations.   But I cannot export a pdf or dvi, when I copy
> the
> >  equations into the .lyx file.
>
> I'd try exporting the lyx file to latex and looking at the latex file
> produced.
>
> Which equations cause the problem? All of them?
>
> Perhaps you could provide either the LyX file with the problem, the
> Latex file generated and/or an example of an equation that is causing
> you trouble.
>
> You can navigate to the equation giving you trouble and "View->View
> Source" and then cut and paste the LaTeX Source into your email.
>
> --
> John C. McCabe-Dansted
> PhD Student
> University of Western Australia

making 1 small mod to layout

[Neal Becker]

I want to allow paragraph in amsart.

One way is copy amsart.layout to my .lyx/layouts, and just comment out
NoStyle paragraph

Is there a way to just include the standard system file, and just make a
1-line .lyx/layouts that makes this modification?

Re: BibLaTeX blues

[Julio Rojas]

There's no quick and easy way. Just reading the files and manual, thou
biblatex-DW style helped a lot (even if the source code is commented in
german!!!).

I'll try to do something helpful.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Maksi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On 2008-03-27 23:14:40 +0100, "Julio Rojas"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >
> > Guys, BibLaTeX rules!!! I'm working my way thru the files and up until
> now,
> > I have been able to mimic the format APA uses for the article records.
> It's
> > hard, but not as hard as BibTeX.
> >
> > If someone is interested on an APAlike style in BibLaTeX, please, let me
> > know.
> >
> > Best regards.
>
> Glad to hear that. I also think that biblatex really will become the
> major tool for BibTeX. If you have found a quick and easy way to edit
> styles, would you like to add it to the biblatex page in the LyX wiki?
> That would be nice.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Maksi
>
>
>


-- 
-
Julio Rojas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Primary colours of LyX? Was: Website re-design ideas

[AK]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Joost Verburg wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do "LyX" have some sort of "primary" colours?  Or some kind of colour
 theme?  My company spent money on letting a designer come up with a 
colour
 set, where we should try and use a certain combo of colours... Do 
we have

 something like that?


In my opinion a color set should be a part of the new design.


Ok, but less easy... now I remember what it was called, she referred 
to it as the 'graphial profile'. It involved more than just colours, 
also what fonts we should use etc. Anyway, the designer we used 
apparantly spent quite a bit of time thinking this through somehow.. I 
just wonder if we'll be able to come up with something useful. But 
maybe this is were Andrei's expertise comes into play?


According to my gf it's non trival, and apparantly related to 
"branding"... and we should start with what LyX represents, and what 
its core values are how are we different from the competition... 
sigh, can't we just do development? ;-)


Actually, it's probably a good idea to see what kind of graphial 
profiles OO, MS Word, Abi Word and LaTeX have?


/Christian

PS. I tried finding some kind of explanation of what a graphical 
profile is... this sounds like the thing I meant. From

http://moonmanstudio.com/graphicalprofile.php


Logo & graphical profile

Any company needs a logo and preferably a graphical profile to make 
themselves known to their customers.


Think of the big companies, think of IBM: stripy and blue, McDonalds: 
M and yellow. They are graphical profiles that helps give them an 
image that sticks in customers minds. Not only do they help the 
business stand out, but it also creates a reputation. IBM's logo gives 
a very traditional feel, serene and solid. It represents something you 
can rely on in the marketplace. While the McDonalds logo is dynamic 
and fun, inviting you to a feel-good experience.


A graphical profile spans logo, colours, business cards, stationeries, 
and a range of supplies for commercial purposes.


Mostly, for the project like LyX, I believe that graphical profile 
should be just a palette of colors and the logo. The only additional 
thing we could do is a custom 'mathy' font face, incorporating some 
characters used in math formulas, but that'd take more time than I have 
at the moment to spend on this, I would say that this could take quite a 
bit of effort to do well. In case of a company like IBM, the same color 
scheme and custom fonts are used for print ads, booklets, letter forms, 
tv ads, billboards, splash screen in programs, website, intranet, signs 
in front of buildings, space design on trade shows and I'm probably 
forgetting many things here. Note that the UI of programs made by IBM 
will use native colors of the platform, for the most part. For them, 
maintaining the same graphical profile is more important, firstly, 
because use in each instance will reinforce impact of the design in all 
other instances, and secondly, because they can manage enough 
advertising saturation that the design is imprinted in visual memory and 
is not seen as 'blue logo design with stripes' but immediately as 'ibm 
design'. For LyX, I would say, it's more important to have a logo and 
template that look nice and pleasing to the eye. There will probably be 
many other sites that use similar color scheme, unless we do bright 
yellow on orange design, which is bad for other reasons. So, a casual 
user or someone entirely new won't think 'of course that's LyX color 
profile', but instead will think 'this design is nice' or 'this design 
isn't very nice' where the first reaction is preferable. People will 
remember the Platypus, though, but we already have that. So, to sum up, 
we should have a color scheme that will be shared between site template 
and splash screen, and probably use a standard font face like Verdana or 
something similar for now, and have the Platypus as the main 
recognizable identifier of all things LyX. -andrei


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Re: Contents of Preamble...EndPreamble in Layout not being output to tex file

[rgheck]

Geevarghese Philip wrote:

Geevarghese Philip wrote:

Geevarghese Philip wrote:
the layout file you attached solves my problem of getting sequential 
theorems,


This works as intended for the dvi/ps/pdf versions. I guess I am being 
greedy, but if only I could make LyX display the theorems with a 
sequential numbering, instead of prepending the subsection number to 
the theorem
Try the attached. You'll get a warning about counter redefinition, but 
it works.


rh

#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[report]{amsreport}

Format 4

Input stdclass.inc
Input numreport.inc

Style Bibliography
TopSep4
LabelString   "Bibliography"
LabelFont
  Series  Bold
  SizeHuge
EndFont
End

Input amsdefs.inc
Input amsmaths-seq.inc

Re: Bibliography Style

[rgheck]

Maksi wrote:

On 2008-03-26 14:37:06 +0100, "Julio Rojas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:


Thanks Max. BTW, is there any application that helps in the migration
from a BibTeX database to a BibLaTeX one? What about maintaining it? I
mean, something like JabRef.


As for the app, I simply continued using BibDesk, so JabRef should be 
just fine. You might have to configure JabRef to make easy use of some 
of the new fields that biblatex offers (e.g. I added a 
translator-field to my templates, a library-field and so on, all 
fields for which biblatex offers interesting support and functionality).


There are remarks at various points in the BibLaTeX docs suggesting 
changes were made to keep it compatible with JabRef.


rh

Re: making 1 small mod to layout

[rgheck]

Neal Becker wrote:

I want to allow paragraph in amsart.

One way is copy amsart.layout to my .lyx/layouts, and just comment out
NoStyle paragraph

Is there a way to just include the standard system file, and just make a
1-line .lyx/layouts that makes this modification?
  
If I understand the question, no. If you included amsart, then Paragraph 
would already be gone, and you'd have to redefine it. Which you could 
do, of course.


rh

Re: Beamer and columns problem (bug?)

[Paul A. Rubin]

Graeme wrote:

I am using LyX1.5.4-1 on WinXP, with the Beamer document class.

When I select the style ColumnsTopAligned within a frame, Lyx inserts

\begin{topcolumns}%{}

\end{topcolumns}%{}

as can easily be checked with the View Source window.

However, it seems impossible to enter any text between these \begin{} 
and \end{} statements.


If I simply hit Return on the line that says Columns (top aligned), then 
try to style the next line with the Column style, Lyx takes me 
completely outside the topcolumns environment, again as can be seen from 
the View Source window.


I get the same problems with the ColumnsCenterAligned and the simple 
Columns styles.


Am I missing something really obvious, or is this a bug with Lyx 1.5.4?


You're missing something ... whether it's really obvious or not is a 
matter of opinion. :-)


First insert the Columns environment.  Underneath that, insert a Column 
environment and fill in the width (including units, e.g. 40mm).  Now 
nest the Column environment under the Columns environment (Edit -> 
Increase List Depth or M-S-right or the tool button that looks like an 
item list with a left-to-right arrow). Then type in whatever you want in 
the column and nest it as well.


/Paul

Re: Beamer and columns problem (bug?)

[Graeme]

Graeme wrote:

I am using LyX1.5.4-1 on WinXP, with the Beamer document class.

When I select the style ColumnsTopAligned within a frame, Lyx inserts


\begin{topcolumns}%{}

\end{topcolumns}%{}

as can easily be checked with the View Source window.


However, it seems impossible to enter any text between these \begin{}
and \end{} statements.

If I simply hit Return on the line that says Columns (top aligned),
then try to style the next line with the Column style, Lyx takes me
completely outside the topcolumns environment, again as can be seen
from the View Source window.

I get the same problems with the ColumnsCenterAligned and the simple
Columns styles.

Am I missing something really obvious, or is this a bug with Lyx
1.5.4?


 
You're missing something ... whether it's really obvious or not is a

matter of opinion. :-)

First insert the Columns environment. Underneath that, insert a
Column environment and fill in the width (including units, e.g.
40mm). Now nest the Column environment under the Columns environment
(Edit -> Increase List Depth or M-S-right or the tool button that
looks like an item list with a left-to-right arrow). Then type in
whatever you want in the column and nest it as well.

/Paul


Paul

Thanks for your helpful reply. It was the need to Increase Depth that I 
did not find sufficiently obvious...


Graeme

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Best approach to using lyx with a university provided style file?

[B. Bogart]

Hello all,

I'm just starting to work on my thesis and thought I would take a closer
look at getting the appropriate style to work.

I have to warn you all I've only made simple use of latex, and have been
using LyX for most of my writing.

When using an external format before I've simply exported the lyx file
to latex, applied the new style for the conference, and edited by hand
where needed, which has been a headache.

Now the format for my thesis (in the form of a .sty file) makes my other
 formats simplistic, and I'm having lots of trouble. I'll try to reduce
this to the central details.

First I took the article.layout file, copied it into a new name, and
added \usepackage{csthesis.sty} in the preamble section as such:

Preamble
\usepackage{csthesis}
EndPreamble

I also added and texhashed the sty file so that lyx could find it.

I confirm that article(csthesis) is listed as a document class in Lyx.

The layout file simply controls how the document appears in Lyx, and
does not have any effect on the output, correct?

So I generated a few DVIs and noticed that the example thesis, that came
with the package, bears little resemblance to my own output.

In order to test I imported the latex example file, included with the
package, into lyx and tried to generate output.

First problem was that I got the following error:

LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.

Lyx highlights the first \qualification{} command.

All the google references I found talked about this error in terms of
using \\, which is not in the document.

Aside: I did notice that just before the qualification a \maketitle
command in the view-source window. What I don't understand is that
command is not visible as ERT or in any way in the normal lyx view.

So I did the logical thing of commenting out (with a preceding % sign)
in front of both the \qualification{} commands. Once that is done Lyx
will generate output, the style of the title is incorrect.

So I exported a second latex file from this document, and commented out
the \maketitle command.

Once that is done I can generate a proper looking document using latex
directly on that tex document.

I'm happy that I've been able to get something to work at all, but how
can I use the proper style in LyX directly without having to manually
edit the tex file after exporting?

Why does the \maketitle command get added when I import the tex?

Why does output bail on the \qualification{} commands?

Why does the output of the document using the layout that uses the
thesis style file not generate output that resembles the sample file?

I've attached a few files to make things more clear:

csthesis.sty is the University provided style file.

sfuthesis.sty is a copy of article.layout with the csthesis package used.

bbtest.tex is a shorted version of the sample text file that came with
the university style file, without any hand-changes. Note it does not
include a \makeletter command, but generates a nice title according to
the university specs when using latex by hand.

I may be the first person to use LyX with this style at my University,
and considering how happy I am with LyX in general, I hope solving these
issues will encourage students in the future to use LyX.

Thanks for your time,
any pointers or suggestions appreciated.

B. Bogart

#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article (sfuthesis)}

Preamble
\usepackage{csthesis}
EndPreamble

Format 4
Input stdclass.inc

SecNumDepth 3
TocDepth3

NoStyle Chapter
NoStyle Chapter*


Style Part
Align Left
AlignPossible Left
TopSep2
BottomSep 1.5
Font
  SizeLarger
EndFont
End


Style Part*
Align Left
AlignPossible Left
TopSep2
BottomSep 1.5
Font
  SizeLarger
EndFont
End

%%
%% This is file `csthesis.sty',
%% generated with the docstrip utility.
%%
%% The original source files were:
%%
%% csthesis.dtx  (with options: `package')
%% 
%% IMPORTANT NOTICE:
%% 
%% For the copyright see the source file.
%% 
%% Any modified versions of this file must be renamed
%% with new filenames distinct from csthesis.sty.
%% 
%% For distribution of the original source see the terms
%% for copying and modification in the file csthesis.dtx.
%% 
%% This generated file may be distributed as long as the
%% original source files, as listed above, are part of the
%% same distribution. (The sources need not necessarily be
%% in the same archive or directory.)
%%
%% Comp. Science, SFU thesis style `csthesis', to be used with LaTeX2e
%% Copyright (C) 1998 Petr Pp Kubon
%%
%% History:
%%   1) 1989: Created by Stephen Chan (CSS) from Stanford PhD Thesis style
%%   2) 1996: Modifications and additions by Margaret Sharon (ACS)
%%   3) 

character encoding issue with pdf production..

[Eitan Suez]

following up on my previous post:

i have a lyx document with the preamble specifying to use
the font beramono for the non-proportional font
(e.g. for lyx-code sections).

when i produce the dvi or pdf, angle brackets:  <>
appear as upside down question marks and upside down
exclamation marks.  my previous message about this issue
(with the same subject line) includes screenshots.

my locale is english/us.

any idea on why this font would be behaving this way?
i have produced dvi's using the same font in the past that
didn't exhibit this problem.  on the same os.  the main difference
being a different distribution of ubuntu (was gutsy vs now hardy)
has a change taken place in
the implementation to the font that would cause this
problem?  any idea how to change it back?  where can i
find resources on understanding how such fonts are implemented
so i can get to the core of this issue?

thanks in advance,
/ eitan

Re: Banner, Splash Screen, Logo, Mascot, Name, oh my!

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:44:49PM -0430, Julio Rojas wrote:
> Guys, don't you believe your "investing" way too much time in this line of
> "problems"? :)

It's for the first time in ten years or so. So that's a relatively minor
portion of the developers time. 

Comparable, for instance, with the time spent on vain attempts to tell
people that reading from top to bottom is easier for some than the 
other way round..

Andre'

Re: Banner, Splash Screen, Logo, Mascot, Name, oh my!

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote:


Guys, don't you believe your "investing" way too much time in this line of
"problems"? :)



It's for the first time in ten years or so. So that's a relatively minor
portion of the developers time.


  It's also spring cleaning time, so why not clean the image, web site,
wiki, etc.?

Rich

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Re: Best approach to using lyx with a university provided style file?

[Ryan Cross]

I didn't read your whole post (also writing my thesis) but found this
highly helpful 
http://www.threewordslong.com/blog/entry/63/A_LyX_Thesis_Layout_for_UNSW_T

It helps that I am a student at UNSW, but it might give you the right idea.

-Ryan

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:12 AM, B. Bogart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>  I'm just starting to work on my thesis and thought I would take a closer
>  look at getting the appropriate style to work.
>
>  I have to warn you all I've only made simple use of latex, and have been
>  using LyX for most of my writing.
>
>  When using an external format before I've simply exported the lyx file
>  to latex, applied the new style for the conference, and edited by hand
>  where needed, which has been a headache.
>
>  Now the format for my thesis (in the form of a .sty file) makes my other
>   formats simplistic, and I'm having lots of trouble. I'll try to reduce
>  this to the central details.
>
>  First I took the article.layout file, copied it into a new name, and
>  added \usepackage{csthesis.sty} in the preamble section as such:
>
>  Preamble
> \usepackage{csthesis}
>  EndPreamble
>
>  I also added and texhashed the sty file so that lyx could find it.
>
>  I confirm that article(csthesis) is listed as a document class in Lyx.
>
>  The layout file simply controls how the document appears in Lyx, and
>  does not have any effect on the output, correct?
>
>  So I generated a few DVIs and noticed that the example thesis, that came
>  with the package, bears little resemblance to my own output.
>
>  In order to test I imported the latex example file, included with the
>  package, into lyx and tried to generate output.
>
>  First problem was that I got the following error:
>
>  LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.
>
>  Lyx highlights the first \qualification{} command.
>
>  All the google references I found talked about this error in terms of
>  using \\, which is not in the document.
>
>  Aside: I did notice that just before the qualification a \maketitle
>  command in the view-source window. What I don't understand is that
>  command is not visible as ERT or in any way in the normal lyx view.
>
>  So I did the logical thing of commenting out (with a preceding % sign)
>  in front of both the \qualification{} commands. Once that is done Lyx
>  will generate output, the style of the title is incorrect.
>
>  So I exported a second latex file from this document, and commented out
>  the \maketitle command.
>
>  Once that is done I can generate a proper looking document using latex
>  directly on that tex document.
>
>  I'm happy that I've been able to get something to work at all, but how
>  can I use the proper style in LyX directly without having to manually
>  edit the tex file after exporting?
>
>  Why does the \maketitle command get added when I import the tex?
>
>  Why does output bail on the \qualification{} commands?
>
>  Why does the output of the document using the layout that uses the
>  thesis style file not generate output that resembles the sample file?
>
>  I've attached a few files to make things more clear:
>
>  csthesis.sty is the University provided style file.
>
>  sfuthesis.sty is a copy of article.layout with the csthesis package used.
>
>  bbtest.tex is a shorted version of the sample text file that came with
>  the university style file, without any hand-changes. Note it does not
>  include a \makeletter command, but generates a nice title according to
>  the university specs when using latex by hand.
>
>  I may be the first person to use LyX with this style at my University,
>  and considering how happy I am with LyX in general, I hope solving these
>  issues will encourage students in the future to use LyX.
>
>  Thanks for your time,
>  any pointers or suggestions appreciated.
>
>  B. Bogart
>
>
> #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
>  #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article (sfuthesis)}
>
>  Preamble
> \usepackage{csthesis}
>  EndPreamble
>
>  Format 4
>  Input stdclass.inc
>
>  SecNumDepth 3
>  TocDepth3
>
>  NoStyle Chapter
>  NoStyle Chapter*
>
>
>  Style Part
> Align Left
> AlignPossible Left
> TopSep2
> BottomSep 1.5
> Font
>   SizeLarger
> EndFont
>  End
>
>
>  Style Part*
> Align Left
> AlignPossible Left
> TopSep2
> BottomSep 1.5
> Font
>   SizeLarger
> EndFont
>  End
>
>
>

Re: character encoding issue with pdf production..

[Eitan Suez]

fyi, i just fixed my problem.
i don't believe i realized (or more probably i forgot)
that i had to manually tell lyx to reconfigure itself
after downloading and installing new fonts.

/ eitan


On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Eitan Suez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> following up on my previous post:
>
> i have a lyx document with the preamble specifying to use
> the font beramono for the non-proportional font
> (e.g. for lyx-code sections).
>
> when i produce the dvi or pdf, angle brackets:  <>
> appear as upside down question marks and upside down
> exclamation marks.  my previous message about this issue
> (with the same subject line) includes screenshots.
>
> my locale is english/us.
>
> any idea on why this font would be behaving this way?
> i have produced dvi's using the same font in the past that
> didn't exhibit this problem.  on the same os.  the main difference
> being a different distribution of ubuntu (was gutsy vs now hardy)
> has a change taken place in
> the implementation to the font that would cause this
> problem?  any idea how to change it back?  where can i
> find resources on understanding how such fonts are implemented
> so i can get to the core of this issue?
>
> thanks in advance,
> / eitan
>
>

Re: Best approach to using lyx with a university provided style file?

[Bob Lounsbury]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:12 PM, B. Bogart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>  I'm just starting to work on my thesis and thought I would take a closer
>  look at getting the appropriate style to work.
>
>  I have to warn you all I've only made simple use of latex, and have been
>  using LyX for most of my writing.
>
>  When using an external format before I've simply exported the lyx file
>  to latex, applied the new style for the conference, and edited by hand
>  where needed, which has been a headache.
>
>  Now the format for my thesis (in the form of a .sty file) makes my other
>   formats simplistic, and I'm having lots of trouble. I'll try to reduce
>  this to the central details.
>
>  First I took the article.layout file, copied it into a new name, and
>  added \usepackage{csthesis.sty} in the preamble section as such:
>
>  Preamble
> \usepackage{csthesis}
>  EndPreamble

You don't need to add this preamble stuff to your layout file. When
you specify ' \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article
(sfuthesis)}' you are already telling LyX that you want it to use
csthesis.sty. I don't even know if you can add preamble stuff in this
manner.

Also, you say your layout file is called sfuthesis.sty this is not
correct, it should be sfuthesis.layout, since it's a LyX layout file
not a LaTeX style file. I'm surprised that LyX is recognizing this
layout if it does not have the proper extension '.layout.


>  I also added and texhashed the sty file so that lyx could find it.

Where did you place the csthesis.sty?

>  I confirm that article(csthesis) is listed as a document class in Lyx.

This doesn't make sense since you have:
\DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article (sfuthesis)} in some
sort of layout file.

This means in LyX it should be 'article (sfuthesis)' not 'article (csthesis)'

>  LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.

Before we worry about errors. Let's be sure you've set things up
correctly. It seems you're on the right track, but I'm still confused
how you set everything up.

The csthesis.sty should be placed in a localtexmf directory where
LaTeX recognizes it. Then you should create your sfuthesis.layout
where LyX recognizes it and delete the preamble stuff you have in the
file.

I think these changes may eliminate some of the errors. It's also
helpful to know what operating system you're using.

Cheers,
/Bob

Re: Primary colours of LyX? Was: Website re-design ideas

[John]

On Saturday 29 March 2008 04:20:21 am AK wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Joost Verburg wrote:

> > Logo & graphical profile
> >
> > Any company needs a logo and preferably a graphical profile to make
> > themselves known to their customers.
> >
> > Think of the big companies, think of IBM: stripy and blue, McDonalds:
> > M and yellow. They are graphical profiles that helps give them an
> > image that sticks in customers minds. Not only do they help the
> > business stand out, but it also creates a reputation. IBM's logo gives
> > a very traditional feel, serene and solid. It represents something you
> > can rely on in the marketplace. While the McDonalds logo is dynamic
> > and fun, inviting you to a feel-good experience.
> >
> > A graphical profile spans logo, colours, business cards, stationeries,
> > and a range of supplies for commercial purposes.
>

> People will
> remember the Platypus, though, but we already have that.
I've used LyX from the beginning - and love it!

But in all the time that the logo has been there it never occurred to me that 
it was a platypus, despite being familiar with the O'Reilly like platypus 
associated with the original example document.

While I would much prefer that the developers worry about improving and 
debugging an already superb product rather than fuss over the logo, if you 
must tinker with the logo, please make it resemble a platypus! 

Probably just changing the beak shape, and toning down those awful cartoon  
colours would be enough.

John O'Gorman
> So, to sum up, 
> we should have a color scheme that will be shared between site template
> and splash screen, and probably use a standard font face like Verdana or
> something similar for now, and have the Platypus as the main
> recognizable identifier of all things LyX. -andrei

Re: Banner, Splash Screen, Logo, Mascot, Name, oh my!

[Abdelrazak Younes]

Rich Shepard wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote:

Guys, don't you believe your "investing" way too much time in this 
line of

"problems"? :)



It's for the first time in ten years or so. So that's a relatively minor
portion of the developers time.


  It's also spring cleaning time, so why not clean the image, web site,
wiki, etc.?


As long as you keep your good will and energy, every thing's possible :-)

Abdel.

Re: Primary colours of LyX? Was: Website re-design ideas

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, AK wrote:


 A graphical profile spans logo, colours, business cards, stationeries, and
 a range of supplies for commercial purposes.

Mostly, for the project like LyX, I believe that graphical profile 
should be just a palette of colors and the logo.


Ok.

The only additional thing we could do is a custom 'mathy' font face, 
incorporating some characters used in math formulas, ...


I don't think that's necessary...




In case of a company like IBM... 


You certainly seems to know this stuff! :-)

For LyX, I would say, it's more important to have a logo and template 
that look nice and pleasing to the eye.


Ok, agreed.

There will probably be many other sites that use similar color scheme, 
unless we do bright yellow on orange design, which is bad for other 
reasons. So, a casual user or someone entirely new won't think 'of 
course that's LyX color profile', but instead will think 'this design is 
nice' or 'this design isn't very nice' where the first reaction is 
preferable.


Sounds good.

People will remember the Platypus, though, but we already have that. So, 
to sum up, we should have a color scheme that will be shared between 
site template and splash screen, and probably use a standard font face 
like Verdana or something similar for now, and have the Platypus as the 
main recognizable identifier of all things LyX. -andrei


Great, sounds like a plan :-)

I wrote down your thoughts here:

http://www.lyx.org/~chr/www/index.php/Main/GraphicalProfile

Whatever we agree on, we need to document it somewhere. Hmm... maybe I 
should have used the wiki instead.


/Christian


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Re: Banner, Splash Screen, Logo, Mascot, Name, oh my!

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:


Rich Shepard wrote:

 On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote:

> >  Guys, don't you believe your "investing" way too much time in this 
> >  line of

> >  "problems"? :)

>  It's for the first time in ten years or so. So that's a relatively 
>  minor

>  portion of the developers time.

   It's also spring cleaning time, so why not clean the image, web site,
 wiki, etc.?


As long as you keep your good will and energy, every thing's possible :-)


Well, I'm doing this because it's fun! :-)

/C

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Does the logo look like a platypus? (Was: Primary colours of LyX? )Was: Website re-design ideas

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, John wrote:


People will remember the Platypus, though, but we already have that.


But in all the time that the logo has been there it never occurred to me 
that it was a platypus, despite being familiar with the O'Reilly like 
platypus associated with the original example document.


Same here... and I even saw it recently in an old book from Stroustrup 
that I was reading!


While I would much prefer that the developers worry about improving and 
debugging an already superb product rather than fuss over the logo, if 
you must tinker with the logo, please make it resemble a platypus!


Probably just changing the beak shape, and toning down those awful cartoon
colours would be enough.


Hear, hear!
/Christian

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Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr