Re: multiplatform vector drawing program to use

2008-04-09 Thread Oscar Lopez
Oscar Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thank you very much for your contributions to this thread

I would like to give a brief summary of what I have been able to learn

I gave a try to inkscape however it seems that the render of latex formula is
broken at linux at version 0.45. Last stable version I haven't been able to
compile at linux and I can not comment

So far, the more promising try have been ipe. It seems that latex formulae can
be easily inserted. There are some minor issues that I have to get used, but it
could be the tool we are looking for.

PyX seems to much low level for my taste. We were looking something more 
drag'n'drop

Before I recommend my colleague to give a try to jfig I'd like to hear from
people that have used it if jfig can be used the same way that xfig with the
external material inset (taking care of latex formula rendering internally using
some python scripts)

Other possibility would be cygwin however it will depend on the policy of the
system administration where he works.

Once again thank you very much for your valuable contributions.







Re: Name of the Mascot (Was: New splash screen (Was: LyX logo))

2008-04-09 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Dienstag, 8. April 2008 23:02 schrieb Luis Rivera:
 curtis osterhoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I don't see that LyXia engenders oral thoughts, though I'd be more

 strongly inclined to give the

  program a try if it did! Besides, would this mean that Word users suffer
  from

 dysLyXia?


 If the thread (and vote) are still open, I'd say LyX is just fine;
 alternative: FeLyX (although a cat would be better then :)

 On the LyDia/dysLyXia front, why not aLyXia? (although alyxiae seem to be
 plants rather than animals).

 My penny contribution,

 Luis.


my penny contribution:

LyXle

mind you, LyX was created in Tuebingen, which belongs to Swabia (Germany), and 
the Swabians put a le at the end of a word for diminution. An advantage is, 
its pronouncable for GBs and USs easily (though not as the swabians do)

Wolfgang


Re: No accents when mastering a document (Spanish) ??

2008-04-09 Thread Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo

El mar, 08-04-2008 a las 10:12 +0200, G. Milde escribió:
 On  7.04.08, Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo wrote:
 
  So I don't know what to do, if I should abandon the idea of building a
  master document,since I don't see clearly which advantages it really
  provides. Anyone could point me any? 
 
 You will get the advantage of a common document 
 
  * continuous page numbers
  * continuous chapter and section numbers
  * table of contents for the whole document
  * common bibliography section
  * cross-references between different chapters just work
  * ...
  
 as well as the advantages of smaller documents 
 
  * faster compiling (i.e. faster preview of just one chapter)
  * faster navigation in a document
  * improved security: a corrupt sub-document does not affect the whole.
  * ...
 
 There are disadvantages as well but this was not the question.
 

You are very very illustrative, thanks.

  Besides, the master document has not built-in the sets of child
  documents, has it? 
 
 The master document source contains just a link to the child documents.
 - this way is it remains a very small file.
 The same is used for graphics.
 

I've got already the idea :-) But yes, that was the sense of my
question ;-)

 For my thesis, I have a directory structure like
 
   Diss/
  main.lyx % master
  preamble.tex   % used with \input{preamble.tex}
  math-macros.lyx  % included in master and childs (as branch)
  Einleitung/% chapter 1
einleitung.lyx   % child document
plot.eps % vector graphic, included as is
photo1.jpg   % pixel graphic, wrapped in eps by LyX
  Grundgleichungen/  % chapter 2
feldkopplung.svg % vector graphic, converted to eps by LyX
impulsfolge.gnuplot% gnuplot source of a plot
impulsfolge.eps  % gnuplot eps output, included as is
...% more supporting files
  ...% more chapter subdirectories
  zusammenfassung.lyx  % a chapter without supporting files
  Anhang/% appendix
...  % LyX source and supporting files

 which will combined be not take more disk space than a corresponding
 openoffice or other office-suite file with included graphics.
  
 I can easily pack it in a zip or tar.bz2 archive if I want to move
 or store it as a single file.
 
  Consequently, the whole set of child docs should be
  there forever, if I've understood it rightly.
 
 No, only as long as the master document is there ;-)
 
 GM

:-))

Thanks again, you talked very clearly.

Cheers,
Daniel



Re: Float Placement in Windows version of LYX

2008-04-09 Thread Siegfried MEUNIER-GUTTIN-CLUZEL

I suppose it is Document  Settings  and choose Float placement
( I translate from french ... sorry ).

Hope it helps.
Siegfried.




Re: Lyx crashing on custom template

2008-04-09 Thread hectic styler
Did one of windows binary maintainers want to see if they could reproduce this?

wes


On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:12 PM, hectic styler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The main.lyx file included in
  http://www.threewordslong.com/downloads/lyx/unswthesis.zip exhibits
  this behavior.

  If you remove the first three lines (i.e. the title and author ) you
  can view the file in 1.5.4.  If either the title or author are
  included in the lyx file the file doesn't view.

  wes



  On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Andre Poenitz
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 01:41:14PM +1000, hectic styler wrote:
 The template can be found here

 
 http://www.threewordslong.com/blog/entry/63/A_LyX_Thesis_Layout_for_UNSW_T

 wes

 On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:36 PM, hectic styler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
   Upon installing Lyx 1.5.4 (+ MiKTex) on MS Vista, I can open up my
   custom template fine, but trying to view the main.lyx as pdf 
 generates
   an error Undefined control error - viewing the chapter alone
   generates the same error but I can view the pdf. Installing Lyx 1.5.3
   allows me to view as pdf fine - is this a known regression and has it
   been fixed in subversion?
  
I can't reproduce your problem with a very simple example text using
your layout.
  
If you send me your thesis preferably cut down to the minimal amount
that still exhibits the problem I'll have a look.
  
Andre'
  



Re: Just the name of the chapter right in the header, unable of getting it. How how how...

2008-04-09 Thread Filippo Zangheri
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 Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo ha scritto:
 Hi again,

 Honestly, I hope to get to explain good enough. The issue is very
 simple. 

 What I've done until now in order to sorting this out has been just
 taping in the preamble, inside \rhead{}, the string I wanted to be
 appeared there (using the fancyhdr). But how to do if I want the same
 result using code? 

 I've tried several combinations, but without results. Actually, I never
 knew much what I  was really doing, since I know nothing about LaTeX,
 but the try and error method didn't gave me a only chance either.

 In a pdf document (Page layout in LaTeX, Piet van Oostrum, Utrecht
 University, 2004), page 10, it shows several examples of this, more...
 what I wanted was there... !!!, __just__ the third from the end, very
 simple:

 \renewcommand{\chaptermark}[1]{%
  \markboth{#1}{}}
 Hi Miguel,

 Try using the syntax below, maybe you are not using \leftmark?

 \usepackage{fancyhdr}
 \pagestyle{fancy}
 \renewcommand{\chaptermark}[1]{\markboth{#1}{}}
 \fancyhead[ER,OR,EL,OL]{}
 \fancyhead[EC,OC]{Your Name\hfill \leftmark}

 As a note, if you find that header font is too small, you can always
 do: \begin{large} your header here \end{large} .

 Greetings.


 - --
 Filippo Zangheri

 
 Thank you for your suggestion, Filippo.
 
 I've tried with that, removing much of the lines I had in the preamble;
 this is what is there at the moment:
 
 \AtBeginDocument{%
 \addto\captionsspanish{%
 \renewcommand{\chaptername}{Tema }%
 }}
 \usepackage{fancyhdr}
 \pagestyle{fancy}
 \renewcommand{\chaptermark}[1]{\markboth{#1}{}}
 \fancyhead[ER,OR,EL,OL]{}
 \fancyhead[EC,OC]{Biología\hfill \leftmark} 
 \cfoot{\thepage}

You can safely remove this last line, because that's the default
footer of fancy pagestyle.


 
 This code works, since:
   a. To the left of each page, heading, appears the string wanted.
   b. To the right of the same page, heading, takes place the title of the
 chapter, as desired, but...
 
   1. There is a minor detail, a difference in relation to what I wanted:
 it appears in upper case letters; I didn't wanted in that way, but lower
 case letters except the first, e.g. Nucleic acids, not NUCLEIC ACIDS.

Strange, indeed! I copied your LaTeX preamble and put it into the
LaTeX preamble of a new document, then I created a master document
with two children and the result is literally the one you wish:
lowercase chapter name. I attached those three files, check by yourself.


   2. Besides, now a new (big) fail has appeared: the number page is the
 1 in all pages of the master document. Much probably this has to do
 with the ERT that I had placed at the beginning of each document
 (child), just after the chapter, this one:
   
 \setcounter{page}{1}
 
 This did let me to obtain a desired effect: to reset page numbers when
 starting each chapter. I know this practise is not much common, but for
 some materials it reveals to be very practical (specially for pupils). 
 
 Is there any work around for solving these issues, please?

To fix the problem, try to put the ERT[\setcounter{page}{1}] at the
very beginning of the child document - before the chapter. ;)


Best regards.

- --
Filippo Zangheri

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Re: Setting align as the default environment for multiline formulas

2008-04-09 Thread Guy Rutenberg
Hi,

Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 This can be done by redefining the eqnarray environment to be the align
environment, you should find 
   how this is done in the archive of this list.
 
 regards Uwe
 
 

Thanks very much for your reply. I tried searching the archive and google but
couldn't find anything useful.

Using \renewenvironment didn't work (LyX still treats it as an eqnarray and adds
an extra ).

Could you give me more detailed pointers to where I may find a solution?

Regards,

Guy



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

William R. Buckley schrieb:


On this point, you and I strongly disagree.  There are many
times when a document could benefit by the use of more
than one font.  I can send you example documents which
do use several fonts, and would be difficult to fathom if only
one font were used.


You mix fonts and font shapes. LyX offers you three major font shapes: italic/slanted, roman 
(serif), sansserif, and the font styles emphasized and noun (capitals). In math you can even use 
blackboard and calligraphic letters. That's enough and no book I know uses more.


Having more than one font, I don't mean not font styles or shapes, is bad typography. Every 
typography books tells you this, you can also talk to publishers or typographers when you don't 
believe me.



If this is a limitation of LyX/LaTeX/Tex, that only one font
can be supported per document, then these tools are
grossly underpowered compared to even the lowly Ventura
Publisher.


As said above, you misunderstood font.


Consequently, many times I need special fonts to represent
the states of my cellular automatons.


Are the different font styles and shapes not enough? I mean how could distinguish you automatons by 
using different fonts as the difference between e.g. the fonts Verdana and Tahoma are not visible on 
the first look and by every reader.



It is interesting that another reply from another respondent
directed their effort to (i) assure me that strike-through is
available, if only I'd (ii) read the documentation.


It is available, but you need to use ERT (LaTeX commands directly).
Due to the Unicode problematic, we don'tr offer support for now as I wrote.


The observation reported respecting file browsing behavior
was met with such discord as to discourage any other
such report.  The more telling behavior is that another
developer (Joost) noted the error was in LyX implementation,
and that he corrected the problem.


Yep, it'S fixed for the next LyX version 1.5.5.


Interesting to me is
that Andre Pönitz vociferously and rudely suggested to me
that the problem must be resident in Window, the OS.


These are the usual Windows is a bad OS comments, don't take this personally.

regards Uwe


Re: Float Placement in Windows version of LYX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

neon none schrieb:


I am trying to control the float placement in Windows version of Lyx.


Have a look at section 3.5 of the EmbeddedObjects manual.

regards Uwe


Re: multiplatform vector drawing program to use

2008-04-09 Thread G. Milde
On  8.04.08, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:

 Is there a SVG to PSTricks converter? Can you imagine how cool that would 
 be?!


 Seems to me I saw somewhere that Inkscape can read SVG (is that its  
 native format?) 

It is. 

 and export to PSTricks.

However, AFAIK, it converts text to paths in the process so it will show in
the PS (or PDF) output exactly as in the SVG.

The EffectRenderLatex-Formula worked on my Debian/testing system
with Inkscape 0.45.1 (Mar  8 2008). It is not very suitable for
converting *all* text elements in a graphic. However, it should be possible
to customize inkscape to use the same fonts as your LyX document.
I did not take the time to figure out how to teach the RenderLatex-Formula
script which latex font package to use.

GM


Re: Setting align as the default environment for multiline formulas

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Guy Rutenberg schrieb:


Using \renewenvironment didn't work (LyX still treats it as an eqnarray and adds
an extra ).


Sorry my fault, this is of course not possible because align has 2 columns, 
eqnarray 3 columns.

So the easiest way is to define a keyboard shortcut that inserts an align equation. How to define 
such a shortcut is explained in the Customization manual. (The next major LyX release has a dilaog 
where you can define them much more easier.)

For existing formulas, use the menu Edit - Math - Change formula type 
(shortcut Alt-m t a).

regards Uwe


Re: Float Placement in Windows version of LYX

2008-04-09 Thread Paul A. Rubin

neon none wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to control the float placement in Windows version of Lyx. While
the LyxWiki prescribes going to Layout menu and use Float placement dialog
to do so, I see no such 'Layout' menu in the version I am using (LyxWindows
1.5.4) [the official windows installation].  So, what should I do to control
float placement in Lyx windows version?

Thanks,
Neon



Right click somewhere in the float (but not in the caption) and the 
layout menu will pop up.


/Paul



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


You mix fonts and font shapes.


  It seems a very common misconception. Too many people use the word 'font'
when they refer to 'typeface.' A 'font' is a particular typeface (Palatino,
Amerigo, Bookman), shape (Roman, Slant, Italic), weight (normal, bold,
thin), and size (10pt, 11pt, 12pt). That's why you'll see so many entries in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ with the same family name.

  In the days when all printed documents were hand-set with metal type,
typesetters had many large wooden trays, each with numerous small
compartments (one for each character in that font set). Each tray contained
a single font.

  Now, with computers doing all the work, we've lost sight of the
distinctions in terms, call everything a 'font,' and end up
miscommunicating.

  In most documents, only two typefaces are used: a serif typeface as the
body text and a san-serif typeface as the headline (part, chapter, section,
etc.) text. Within the body text, emphasis is usually by changing the shape
to Italic or slant (if the former is not available). Bold and underline are
not used. (Take a look at a newspaper, book, or magazine and see if you can
find bold or underlined text used.) Underlined text is a hold-over from
typewriter days, and I suspect (but do not know) that bold is the creation
of the earlier word processors (e.g., Wang and those on monochrome-monitored
PCs) that could not display Italic fonts. Current word processors (Wurd,
OO.o., AbiWord) continue to provide these typographic oddities, and writers
continue to use them.

  If we all use typographic terms with precision we'll communicate much more
clearly and effectively.

Your local curmudgeon,

Rich

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Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Rich Shepard wrote:

 It seems a very common misconception. Too many people use the word 'font'
 when they refer to 'typeface.' A 'font' is a particular typeface
 (Palatino, Amerigo, Bookman), shape (Roman, Slant, Italic), weight
 (normal, bold, thin), and size (10pt, 11pt, 12pt). That's why you'll see
 so many entries in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ with the same family name.

Depends. Actually, a font is a kind of economic entity. It's a collection
of shapes and sizes (or a specific shape) of a given type face, as it is
sold by the type _foundry_ (e.g. Linotype or Adobe). Historically, a font
(or found, for traditionalists) was indeed a set of metal types,
distributed and sold as an entity. Nowadays, a font is a file which
contains information about glyphs, metrics etc. for a subset (or the whole)
of a typeface.

So, strictly speaking, font is just the material container, the thing you
install on your computer. What you select in the application are type
faces, shapes, sizes etc.

Jürgen



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 (or found, for traditionalists)

I feel the traditionalists attacking. Of course, it's spelled fount.

Jürgen



LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Bruce Pourciau
Elbow problems have begun to make it hard for me to type a long  
manuscript into LyX. I was thinking that we could install LyX (but  
not LaTeX) on my secretary's machine, and then she could type the ms  
into LyX, perhaps typing ff or something whenever there's a formula  
that would require LaTeX (so that she wouldn't have to learn about  
mathmode stuff), and then after getting the LyX file from her by  
email, I could open it and insert the formulas. Is there any reason  
this might not work? (I'm running LyX/Mac 1.4.1 and she's running  
Windows XP).


I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts  
on how I can make this go smoothly for them?


Bruce


Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Bruce Pourciau schrieb:

Is there any reason this might not 
work? (I'm running LyX/Mac 1.4.1 and she's running Windows XP).


Should work, but you should both use the same major LyX Version. I recommend to 
use LyX 1.5 not 1.4.

I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts on 
how I can make this go smoothly for them?


The easiest way is to download the small variant of e.g. this installer and start it with admin 
priviledges:

https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5117release_id=14372
(http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/LyX-154-3-23-AltInstaller-Small.exe)

The installer has an option to install it without using LaTeX.

regards Uwe


Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 11:57:55AM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
 William R. Buckley schrieb:
 Interesting to me is
 that Andre Pönitz vociferously and rudely suggested to me
 that the problem must be resident in Window, the OS.

Are you refering to
 
  http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg63573.html

?

If not, what else?

Andre'


Re: Website re-design ideas

2008-04-09 Thread Manveru
My penny to the well...

At first sight http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ has professional feeling, but
maybe little to heavy. I like http://www.python.org/ because I always find
this page useful. http://www.inkscape.org has simple structure, but is good
looking. Very professional was http://www.drupal.org, which contains lot of
stuff, hardly using own Drupal mechanisms.
Because the content of www.lyx.org is similar to that presented on
inkscape.org and other information are on wiki, I think Lyx should have very
good looking design of its main page, not necessairly full of stuff. It is
worth, because Lyx itself is advanced application, but poorly presented on
its web page.

2008/3/23, Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello all,

 Over on lyx-devel, I've been discussing doing some re-design to the look
 and
 feel of www.lyx.org. I'd like to get some feedback so we know what people
 think looks best. Here are some links to some other websites with designs
 that all look nice, although there's a wide range in their design style.
 So
 that our graphic designer can know what kind of general design style would
 look good, which ones of the following look best to you guys?

 http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
 http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
 http://www.python.org/
 http://www.scipy.org/
 http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

 If there are other websites that you guys think are particularly well
 designed, please let us know!


 Rex




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Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Bruce Pourciau schrieb:

Is there any reason this might not work? (I'm running LyX/Mac 1.4.1 
and she's running Windows XP).


Should work, but you should both use the same major LyX Version. I 
recommend to use LyX 1.5 not 1.4.


I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts 
on how I can make this go smoothly for them?


The easiest way is to download the small variant of e.g. this installer 
and start it with admin priviledges:
https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5117release_id=14372 

(http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/LyX-154-3-23-AltInstaller-Small.exe) 



The installer has an option to install it without using LaTeX.



Perhaps I'm missing something, but if there's no LaTeX installed, won't 
the LyX configuration script decide that none of the layouts are usable, 
making it impossible to start (or I assume open) a document?


/Paul



Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Joost Verburg

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
Perhaps I'm missing something, but if there's no LaTeX installed, won't 
the LyX configuration script decide that none of the layouts are usable, 
making it impossible to start (or I assume open) a document?


You can still open the document.

Joost



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

William R. Buckley schrieb:


For instance,  consider the attached paper, which includes
many different fonts.
I should add that this paper has been published.


This is no excuse ;-), I have read books, written in Word and directly 
published.


One font is not always a desirable condition.

 Again, see the attached paper. Four different fonts are used in
 the construction of the paper: Arial, Times New Roman, Lucida
 Bright Math Symbol, and a Swiss 721 font.

But you also get the same, when you set in the document settings to use Arial for sansserif, Times 
New Roman for roman, and Lucida Console for typewriter. The character dialog offers to you to set 
the characters to one these three font shapes and in fact you get up to three different font in your 
document. The number of fonts depend on what you have set in the document settings for the fonts.

Also in LyX a different special math font is used.
When you look at the PDF document properties of the compiled UserGuide, you can see that behind the 
scenes even 37! different font files were used and embedded to the PDF.
If you really need a different font handling, LaTeX of course also supports this, but this is not 
supported by LyX. I refer to

http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/

LaTeX can do anything with text you can imagine of and with LyX you have access to this, if 
something is not supported by LyX, you can always use ERT to call LaTeX commands directly.



I take all of the diatribe personally and, don't tell me how I should
react to the words and actions of others.  In this regard, you are
rude.


What are you talking about? Nobody has sent you a diatribe, but you often wrote that you've been 
treated rude, but I never did. Of course people have different opinions and a discussion is the way 
to come to a conclusion.
I answered to my best knowledge about fonts, so why is this rude? My question how the reader should 
distinguish between the different fonts was not a joke, it really interest me.

It seems to me that you quickly loose the contenance and wonder why the people 
on the mailing list
reply rude to you. I had the feeling that you are forced to switch from Ventura 
but don't want this.
This is not our problem, its yours, so either accept how LaTeX works as we cannot change it - LyX is 
just the frontend to LaTeX, or use another system.


Uwe


Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread John Coppens
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:21:14 -0500
Bruce Pourciau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts  
 on how I can make this go smoothly for them?

Can't she run your LyX remotely? Maybe make an account for her on your
machine?

John


Portable Lyx

2008-04-09 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Does anyone know, if there is a portable version of lyx anywhere, that 
is running without problems from an usb-stick?   And if there is, how it 
is to arrange with miktex an so on the stick?


Matthias



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Re: Portable Lyx

2008-04-09 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Matthias Schmidt wrote:
Does anyone know, if there is a portable version of lyx anywhere, that 
is running without problems from an usb-stick?   And if there is, how it 
is to arrange with miktex an so on the stick?




You might want to look at http://portableapps.com/node/9880.

/Paul



Re: Website re-design ideas

2008-04-09 Thread Bruce Pourciau


On Apr 9, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Manveru wrote:


My penny to the well...

At first sight http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ has professional  
feeling, but
maybe little to heavy. I like http://www.python.org/ because I  
always find
this page useful. http://www.inkscape.org has simple structure, but  
is good
looking. Very professional was http://www.drupal.org, which  
contains lot of

stuff, hardly using own Drupal mechanisms.
Because the content of www.lyx.org is similar to that presented on
inkscape.org and other information are on wiki, I think Lyx should  
have very
good looking design of its main page, not necessairly full of  
stuff. It is
worth, because Lyx itself is advanced application, but poorly  
presented on

its web page.

2008/3/23, Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello all,

Over on lyx-devel, I've been discussing doing some re-design to  
the look

and
feel of www.lyx.org. I'd like to get some feedback so we know what  
people
think looks best. Here are some links to some other websites with  
designs
that all look nice, although there's a wide range in their design  
style.

So
that our graphic designer can know what kind of general design  
style would

look good, which ones of the following look best to you guys?

http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
http://www.python.org/
http://www.scipy.org/
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

If there are other websites that you guys think are particularly well
designed, please let us know!


Rex



Of those listed above, I like these two:

http://www.inkscape.org
http://www.scipy.org

Both are simple, clean, visually appealing, easy to explore, and  
informative.


Bruce






Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Bruce Pourciau


On Apr 9, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


Bruce Pourciau schrieb:

Is there any reason this might not work? (I'm running LyX/Mac  
1.4.1 and she's running Windows XP).


Should work, but you should both use the same major LyX Version. I  
recommend to use LyX 1.5 not 1.4.


I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any  
thoughts on how I can make this go smoothly for them?


The easiest way is to download the small variant of e.g. this  
installer and start it with admin priviledges:
https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php? 
group_id=5117release_id=14372
(http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/LyX-154-3-23- 
AltInstaller-Small.exe)


The installer has an option to install it without using LaTeX.


Is this _not_ true of most LyX installers? In other words, is it  
generally the case that a LyX installer or LyX itself will complain  
and even not allow a LyX document to be opened and typed into when  
LaTeX is not installed?


Bruce



Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Bruce Pourciau schrieb:


The installer has an option to install it without using LaTeX.


Is this _not_ true of most LyX installers? In other words, is it 
generally the case that a LyX installer or LyX itself will complain and 
even not allow a LyX document to be opened and typed into when LaTeX is 
not installed?


You misunderstood me. The installer has an option to use LyX without LaTeX. You can use LyX as 
normal, except of previewing/exporting. Some warnings may also occur that a LateX-package is not 
available and you won't get any output, but you can ignore this. Just test it out.


regards Uwe


Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Joost Verburg

Bruce Pourciau wrote:
Is this _not_ true of most LyX installers? In other words, is it 
generally the case that a LyX installer or LyX itself will complain and 
even not allow a LyX document to be opened and typed into when LaTeX is 
not installed?


The official installer also allows you to install LyX without LaTeX.

Joost



Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Eberhard Lisse wrote:


I would just install the complete stuff and don't tell the secretary about
LaTeX.


  Another option for situations like Bruce's is to use a linux live cd. I
believe that both Knoppix and the [X|K|G|Edu]ubuntu family come with both
latex (tetex is the usual flavor) and LyX. The documents can be saved to
disk and exchanged the usual way, while the system is left otherwise
untouched.

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Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Eberhard Lisse

I would just install the complete stuff and don't tell the
secretary about LaTeX.

That's what I did actually :-)-O

greetings, el

on 4/9/08 3:21 PM Bruce Pourciau said the following:
Elbow problems have begun to make it hard for me to type a long 
manuscript into LyX. I was thinking that we could install LyX (but not 
LaTeX) on my secretary's machine, and then she could type the ms into 
LyX, perhaps typing ff or something whenever there's a formula that 
would require LaTeX (so that she wouldn't have to learn about mathmode 
stuff), and then after getting the LyX file from her by email, I could 
open it and insert the formulas. Is there any reason this might not 
work? (I'm running LyX/Mac 1.4.1 and she's running Windows XP).


I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts on 
how I can make this go smoothly for them?


Bruce




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Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Les Denham

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 09:21 -0500, Bruce Pourciau wrote:
 I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts  
 on how I can make this go smoothly for them?

Bruce,

Another option is the portable LyX mentioned in another thread earlier
today.
http://portableapps.com/node/9880

Les



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

William R. Buckley schrieb:


Telling me, even suggesting to me, how I should react to the
written words of others is rude.
The telling is what is rude.

 You treated me rudely when you suggested how I should be
 affected by the written words of others.

What, it is rude that I said you shouldn't take André's reply personally?


LyX can satisfy all my needs.  However, in Ventura Publisher,
I can set every characteristic of each and every character in 
a document, even one that is thousands of pages, and hundreds

of thousands of words, setting each different from all others.

A different typeface for every character!


Yes, but unreadable. You doubt the power of LaTeX, but why use every publisher company I have worked 
with LaTeX? Surely not for its lack of power but for its strengths.



This is the power available.  If LyX/LaTeX/TeX cannot supply
this kind of capability, well, so be it.


Damn, read the link I have sent you and learn how the font stuff is done you will see that you can 
do everything with LaTeX.


I'm out as my patience is.

Uwe


Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 14:42, Joost Verburg wrote:
 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
  Perhaps I'm missing something, but if there's no LaTeX installed, won't
  the LyX configuration script decide that none of the layouts are usable,
  making it impossible to start (or I assume open) a document?

 You can still open the document.

 Joost

Yeah, but if you save your document, won't all your styles disappear?

SteveTTroubleshooting: Just the Facts


Re: multiplatform vector drawing program to use

2008-04-09 Thread Oscar Lopez
Oscar Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thank you very much for your contributions to this thread

I would like to give a brief summary of what I have been able to learn

I gave a try to inkscape however it seems that the render of latex formula is
broken at linux at version 0.45. Last stable version I haven't been able to
compile at linux and I can not comment

So far, the more promising try have been ipe. It seems that latex formulae can
be easily inserted. There are some minor issues that I have to get used, but it
could be the tool we are looking for.

PyX seems to much low level for my taste. We were looking something more 
drag'n'drop

Before I recommend my colleague to give a try to jfig I'd like to hear from
people that have used it if jfig can be used the same way that xfig with the
external material inset (taking care of latex formula rendering internally using
some python scripts)

Other possibility would be cygwin however it will depend on the policy of the
system administration where he works.

Once again thank you very much for your valuable contributions.







Re: Name of the Mascot (Was: New splash screen (Was: LyX logo))

2008-04-09 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Dienstag, 8. April 2008 23:02 schrieb Luis Rivera:
 curtis osterhoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I don't see that LyXia engenders oral thoughts, though I'd be more

 strongly inclined to give the

  program a try if it did! Besides, would this mean that Word users suffer
  from

 dysLyXia?


 If the thread (and vote) are still open, I'd say LyX is just fine;
 alternative: FeLyX (although a cat would be better then :)

 On the LyDia/dysLyXia front, why not aLyXia? (although alyxiae seem to be
 plants rather than animals).

 My penny contribution,

 Luis.


my penny contribution:

LyXle

mind you, LyX was created in Tuebingen, which belongs to Swabia (Germany), and 
the Swabians put a le at the end of a word for diminution. An advantage is, 
its pronouncable for GBs and USs easily (though not as the swabians do)

Wolfgang


Re: No accents when mastering a document (Spanish) ??

2008-04-09 Thread Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo

El mar, 08-04-2008 a las 10:12 +0200, G. Milde escribió:
 On  7.04.08, Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo wrote:
 
  So I don't know what to do, if I should abandon the idea of building a
  master document,since I don't see clearly which advantages it really
  provides. Anyone could point me any? 
 
 You will get the advantage of a common document 
 
  * continuous page numbers
  * continuous chapter and section numbers
  * table of contents for the whole document
  * common bibliography section
  * cross-references between different chapters just work
  * ...
  
 as well as the advantages of smaller documents 
 
  * faster compiling (i.e. faster preview of just one chapter)
  * faster navigation in a document
  * improved security: a corrupt sub-document does not affect the whole.
  * ...
 
 There are disadvantages as well but this was not the question.
 

You are very very illustrative, thanks.

  Besides, the master document has not built-in the sets of child
  documents, has it? 
 
 The master document source contains just a link to the child documents.
 - this way is it remains a very small file.
 The same is used for graphics.
 

I've got already the idea :-) But yes, that was the sense of my
question ;-)

 For my thesis, I have a directory structure like
 
   Diss/
  main.lyx % master
  preamble.tex   % used with \input{preamble.tex}
  math-macros.lyx  % included in master and childs (as branch)
  Einleitung/% chapter 1
einleitung.lyx   % child document
plot.eps % vector graphic, included as is
photo1.jpg   % pixel graphic, wrapped in eps by LyX
  Grundgleichungen/  % chapter 2
feldkopplung.svg % vector graphic, converted to eps by LyX
impulsfolge.gnuplot% gnuplot source of a plot
impulsfolge.eps  % gnuplot eps output, included as is
...% more supporting files
  ...% more chapter subdirectories
  zusammenfassung.lyx  % a chapter without supporting files
  Anhang/% appendix
...  % LyX source and supporting files

 which will combined be not take more disk space than a corresponding
 openoffice or other office-suite file with included graphics.
  
 I can easily pack it in a zip or tar.bz2 archive if I want to move
 or store it as a single file.
 
  Consequently, the whole set of child docs should be
  there forever, if I've understood it rightly.
 
 No, only as long as the master document is there ;-)
 
 GM

:-))

Thanks again, you talked very clearly.

Cheers,
Daniel



Re: Float Placement in Windows version of LYX

2008-04-09 Thread Siegfried MEUNIER-GUTTIN-CLUZEL

I suppose it is Document  Settings  and choose Float placement
( I translate from french ... sorry ).

Hope it helps.
Siegfried.




Re: Lyx crashing on custom template

2008-04-09 Thread hectic styler
Did one of windows binary maintainers want to see if they could reproduce this?

wes


On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:12 PM, hectic styler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The main.lyx file included in
  http://www.threewordslong.com/downloads/lyx/unswthesis.zip exhibits
  this behavior.

  If you remove the first three lines (i.e. the title and author ) you
  can view the file in 1.5.4.  If either the title or author are
  included in the lyx file the file doesn't view.

  wes



  On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Andre Poenitz
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 01:41:14PM +1000, hectic styler wrote:
 The template can be found here

 
 http://www.threewordslong.com/blog/entry/63/A_LyX_Thesis_Layout_for_UNSW_T

 wes

 On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:36 PM, hectic styler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
   Upon installing Lyx 1.5.4 (+ MiKTex) on MS Vista, I can open up my
   custom template fine, but trying to view the main.lyx as pdf 
 generates
   an error Undefined control error - viewing the chapter alone
   generates the same error but I can view the pdf. Installing Lyx 1.5.3
   allows me to view as pdf fine - is this a known regression and has it
   been fixed in subversion?
  
I can't reproduce your problem with a very simple example text using
your layout.
  
If you send me your thesis preferably cut down to the minimal amount
that still exhibits the problem I'll have a look.
  
Andre'
  



Re: Just the name of the chapter right in the header, unable of getting it. How how how...

2008-04-09 Thread Filippo Zangheri
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 Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo ha scritto:
 Hi again,

 Honestly, I hope to get to explain good enough. The issue is very
 simple. 

 What I've done until now in order to sorting this out has been just
 taping in the preamble, inside \rhead{}, the string I wanted to be
 appeared there (using the fancyhdr). But how to do if I want the same
 result using code? 

 I've tried several combinations, but without results. Actually, I never
 knew much what I  was really doing, since I know nothing about LaTeX,
 but the try and error method didn't gave me a only chance either.

 In a pdf document (Page layout in LaTeX, Piet van Oostrum, Utrecht
 University, 2004), page 10, it shows several examples of this, more...
 what I wanted was there... !!!, __just__ the third from the end, very
 simple:

 \renewcommand{\chaptermark}[1]{%
  \markboth{#1}{}}
 Hi Miguel,

 Try using the syntax below, maybe you are not using \leftmark?

 \usepackage{fancyhdr}
 \pagestyle{fancy}
 \renewcommand{\chaptermark}[1]{\markboth{#1}{}}
 \fancyhead[ER,OR,EL,OL]{}
 \fancyhead[EC,OC]{Your Name\hfill \leftmark}

 As a note, if you find that header font is too small, you can always
 do: \begin{large} your header here \end{large} .

 Greetings.


 - --
 Filippo Zangheri

 
 Thank you for your suggestion, Filippo.
 
 I've tried with that, removing much of the lines I had in the preamble;
 this is what is there at the moment:
 
 \AtBeginDocument{%
 \addto\captionsspanish{%
 \renewcommand{\chaptername}{Tema }%
 }}
 \usepackage{fancyhdr}
 \pagestyle{fancy}
 \renewcommand{\chaptermark}[1]{\markboth{#1}{}}
 \fancyhead[ER,OR,EL,OL]{}
 \fancyhead[EC,OC]{Biología\hfill \leftmark} 
 \cfoot{\thepage}

You can safely remove this last line, because that's the default
footer of fancy pagestyle.


 
 This code works, since:
   a. To the left of each page, heading, appears the string wanted.
   b. To the right of the same page, heading, takes place the title of the
 chapter, as desired, but...
 
   1. There is a minor detail, a difference in relation to what I wanted:
 it appears in upper case letters; I didn't wanted in that way, but lower
 case letters except the first, e.g. Nucleic acids, not NUCLEIC ACIDS.

Strange, indeed! I copied your LaTeX preamble and put it into the
LaTeX preamble of a new document, then I created a master document
with two children and the result is literally the one you wish:
lowercase chapter name. I attached those three files, check by yourself.


   2. Besides, now a new (big) fail has appeared: the number page is the
 1 in all pages of the master document. Much probably this has to do
 with the ERT that I had placed at the beginning of each document
 (child), just after the chapter, this one:
   
 \setcounter{page}{1}
 
 This did let me to obtain a desired effect: to reset page numbers when
 starting each chapter. I know this practise is not much common, but for
 some materials it reveals to be very practical (specially for pupils). 
 
 Is there any work around for solving these issues, please?

To fix the problem, try to put the ERT[\setcounter{page}{1}] at the
very beginning of the child document - before the chapter. ;)


Best regards.

- --
Filippo Zangheri

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Re: Setting align as the default environment for multiline formulas

2008-04-09 Thread Guy Rutenberg
Hi,

Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 This can be done by redefining the eqnarray environment to be the align
environment, you should find 
   how this is done in the archive of this list.
 
 regards Uwe
 
 

Thanks very much for your reply. I tried searching the archive and google but
couldn't find anything useful.

Using \renewenvironment didn't work (LyX still treats it as an eqnarray and adds
an extra ).

Could you give me more detailed pointers to where I may find a solution?

Regards,

Guy



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

William R. Buckley schrieb:


On this point, you and I strongly disagree.  There are many
times when a document could benefit by the use of more
than one font.  I can send you example documents which
do use several fonts, and would be difficult to fathom if only
one font were used.


You mix fonts and font shapes. LyX offers you three major font shapes: italic/slanted, roman 
(serif), sansserif, and the font styles emphasized and noun (capitals). In math you can even use 
blackboard and calligraphic letters. That's enough and no book I know uses more.


Having more than one font, I don't mean not font styles or shapes, is bad typography. Every 
typography books tells you this, you can also talk to publishers or typographers when you don't 
believe me.



If this is a limitation of LyX/LaTeX/Tex, that only one font
can be supported per document, then these tools are
grossly underpowered compared to even the lowly Ventura
Publisher.


As said above, you misunderstood font.


Consequently, many times I need special fonts to represent
the states of my cellular automatons.


Are the different font styles and shapes not enough? I mean how could distinguish you automatons by 
using different fonts as the difference between e.g. the fonts Verdana and Tahoma are not visible on 
the first look and by every reader.



It is interesting that another reply from another respondent
directed their effort to (i) assure me that strike-through is
available, if only I'd (ii) read the documentation.


It is available, but you need to use ERT (LaTeX commands directly).
Due to the Unicode problematic, we don'tr offer support for now as I wrote.


The observation reported respecting file browsing behavior
was met with such discord as to discourage any other
such report.  The more telling behavior is that another
developer (Joost) noted the error was in LyX implementation,
and that he corrected the problem.


Yep, it'S fixed for the next LyX version 1.5.5.


Interesting to me is
that Andre Pönitz vociferously and rudely suggested to me
that the problem must be resident in Window, the OS.


These are the usual Windows is a bad OS comments, don't take this personally.

regards Uwe


Re: Float Placement in Windows version of LYX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

neon none schrieb:


I am trying to control the float placement in Windows version of Lyx.


Have a look at section 3.5 of the EmbeddedObjects manual.

regards Uwe


Re: multiplatform vector drawing program to use

2008-04-09 Thread G. Milde
On  8.04.08, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:

 Is there a SVG to PSTricks converter? Can you imagine how cool that would 
 be?!


 Seems to me I saw somewhere that Inkscape can read SVG (is that its  
 native format?) 

It is. 

 and export to PSTricks.

However, AFAIK, it converts text to paths in the process so it will show in
the PS (or PDF) output exactly as in the SVG.

The EffectRenderLatex-Formula worked on my Debian/testing system
with Inkscape 0.45.1 (Mar  8 2008). It is not very suitable for
converting *all* text elements in a graphic. However, it should be possible
to customize inkscape to use the same fonts as your LyX document.
I did not take the time to figure out how to teach the RenderLatex-Formula
script which latex font package to use.

GM


Re: Setting align as the default environment for multiline formulas

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Guy Rutenberg schrieb:


Using \renewenvironment didn't work (LyX still treats it as an eqnarray and adds
an extra ).


Sorry my fault, this is of course not possible because align has 2 columns, 
eqnarray 3 columns.

So the easiest way is to define a keyboard shortcut that inserts an align equation. How to define 
such a shortcut is explained in the Customization manual. (The next major LyX release has a dilaog 
where you can define them much more easier.)

For existing formulas, use the menu Edit - Math - Change formula type 
(shortcut Alt-m t a).

regards Uwe


Re: Float Placement in Windows version of LYX

2008-04-09 Thread Paul A. Rubin

neon none wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to control the float placement in Windows version of Lyx. While
the LyxWiki prescribes going to Layout menu and use Float placement dialog
to do so, I see no such 'Layout' menu in the version I am using (LyxWindows
1.5.4) [the official windows installation].  So, what should I do to control
float placement in Lyx windows version?

Thanks,
Neon



Right click somewhere in the float (but not in the caption) and the 
layout menu will pop up.


/Paul



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


You mix fonts and font shapes.


  It seems a very common misconception. Too many people use the word 'font'
when they refer to 'typeface.' A 'font' is a particular typeface (Palatino,
Amerigo, Bookman), shape (Roman, Slant, Italic), weight (normal, bold,
thin), and size (10pt, 11pt, 12pt). That's why you'll see so many entries in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ with the same family name.

  In the days when all printed documents were hand-set with metal type,
typesetters had many large wooden trays, each with numerous small
compartments (one for each character in that font set). Each tray contained
a single font.

  Now, with computers doing all the work, we've lost sight of the
distinctions in terms, call everything a 'font,' and end up
miscommunicating.

  In most documents, only two typefaces are used: a serif typeface as the
body text and a san-serif typeface as the headline (part, chapter, section,
etc.) text. Within the body text, emphasis is usually by changing the shape
to Italic or slant (if the former is not available). Bold and underline are
not used. (Take a look at a newspaper, book, or magazine and see if you can
find bold or underlined text used.) Underlined text is a hold-over from
typewriter days, and I suspect (but do not know) that bold is the creation
of the earlier word processors (e.g., Wang and those on monochrome-monitored
PCs) that could not display Italic fonts. Current word processors (Wurd,
OO.o., AbiWord) continue to provide these typographic oddities, and writers
continue to use them.

  If we all use typographic terms with precision we'll communicate much more
clearly and effectively.

Your local curmudgeon,

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Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Rich Shepard wrote:

 It seems a very common misconception. Too many people use the word 'font'
 when they refer to 'typeface.' A 'font' is a particular typeface
 (Palatino, Amerigo, Bookman), shape (Roman, Slant, Italic), weight
 (normal, bold, thin), and size (10pt, 11pt, 12pt). That's why you'll see
 so many entries in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ with the same family name.

Depends. Actually, a font is a kind of economic entity. It's a collection
of shapes and sizes (or a specific shape) of a given type face, as it is
sold by the type _foundry_ (e.g. Linotype or Adobe). Historically, a font
(or found, for traditionalists) was indeed a set of metal types,
distributed and sold as an entity. Nowadays, a font is a file which
contains information about glyphs, metrics etc. for a subset (or the whole)
of a typeface.

So, strictly speaking, font is just the material container, the thing you
install on your computer. What you select in the application are type
faces, shapes, sizes etc.

Jürgen



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 (or found, for traditionalists)

I feel the traditionalists attacking. Of course, it's spelled fount.

Jürgen



LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Bruce Pourciau
Elbow problems have begun to make it hard for me to type a long  
manuscript into LyX. I was thinking that we could install LyX (but  
not LaTeX) on my secretary's machine, and then she could type the ms  
into LyX, perhaps typing ff or something whenever there's a formula  
that would require LaTeX (so that she wouldn't have to learn about  
mathmode stuff), and then after getting the LyX file from her by  
email, I could open it and insert the formulas. Is there any reason  
this might not work? (I'm running LyX/Mac 1.4.1 and she's running  
Windows XP).


I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts  
on how I can make this go smoothly for them?


Bruce


Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Bruce Pourciau schrieb:

Is there any reason this might not 
work? (I'm running LyX/Mac 1.4.1 and she's running Windows XP).


Should work, but you should both use the same major LyX Version. I recommend to 
use LyX 1.5 not 1.4.

I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts on 
how I can make this go smoothly for them?


The easiest way is to download the small variant of e.g. this installer and start it with admin 
priviledges:

https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5117release_id=14372
(http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/LyX-154-3-23-AltInstaller-Small.exe)

The installer has an option to install it without using LaTeX.

regards Uwe


Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 11:57:55AM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
 William R. Buckley schrieb:
 Interesting to me is
 that Andre Pönitz vociferously and rudely suggested to me
 that the problem must be resident in Window, the OS.

Are you refering to
 
  http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg63573.html

?

If not, what else?

Andre'


Re: Website re-design ideas

2008-04-09 Thread Manveru
My penny to the well...

At first sight http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ has professional feeling, but
maybe little to heavy. I like http://www.python.org/ because I always find
this page useful. http://www.inkscape.org has simple structure, but is good
looking. Very professional was http://www.drupal.org, which contains lot of
stuff, hardly using own Drupal mechanisms.
Because the content of www.lyx.org is similar to that presented on
inkscape.org and other information are on wiki, I think Lyx should have very
good looking design of its main page, not necessairly full of stuff. It is
worth, because Lyx itself is advanced application, but poorly presented on
its web page.

2008/3/23, Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello all,

 Over on lyx-devel, I've been discussing doing some re-design to the look
 and
 feel of www.lyx.org. I'd like to get some feedback so we know what people
 think looks best. Here are some links to some other websites with designs
 that all look nice, although there's a wide range in their design style.
 So
 that our graphic designer can know what kind of general design style would
 look good, which ones of the following look best to you guys?

 http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
 http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
 http://www.python.org/
 http://www.scipy.org/
 http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

 If there are other websites that you guys think are particularly well
 designed, please let us know!


 Rex




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Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Bruce Pourciau schrieb:

Is there any reason this might not work? (I'm running LyX/Mac 1.4.1 
and she's running Windows XP).


Should work, but you should both use the same major LyX Version. I 
recommend to use LyX 1.5 not 1.4.


I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts 
on how I can make this go smoothly for them?


The easiest way is to download the small variant of e.g. this installer 
and start it with admin priviledges:
https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5117release_id=14372 

(http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/LyX-154-3-23-AltInstaller-Small.exe) 



The installer has an option to install it without using LaTeX.



Perhaps I'm missing something, but if there's no LaTeX installed, won't 
the LyX configuration script decide that none of the layouts are usable, 
making it impossible to start (or I assume open) a document?


/Paul



Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Joost Verburg

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
Perhaps I'm missing something, but if there's no LaTeX installed, won't 
the LyX configuration script decide that none of the layouts are usable, 
making it impossible to start (or I assume open) a document?


You can still open the document.

Joost



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

William R. Buckley schrieb:


For instance,  consider the attached paper, which includes
many different fonts.
I should add that this paper has been published.


This is no excuse ;-), I have read books, written in Word and directly 
published.


One font is not always a desirable condition.

 Again, see the attached paper. Four different fonts are used in
 the construction of the paper: Arial, Times New Roman, Lucida
 Bright Math Symbol, and a Swiss 721 font.

But you also get the same, when you set in the document settings to use Arial for sansserif, Times 
New Roman for roman, and Lucida Console for typewriter. The character dialog offers to you to set 
the characters to one these three font shapes and in fact you get up to three different font in your 
document. The number of fonts depend on what you have set in the document settings for the fonts.

Also in LyX a different special math font is used.
When you look at the PDF document properties of the compiled UserGuide, you can see that behind the 
scenes even 37! different font files were used and embedded to the PDF.
If you really need a different font handling, LaTeX of course also supports this, but this is not 
supported by LyX. I refer to

http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/

LaTeX can do anything with text you can imagine of and with LyX you have access to this, if 
something is not supported by LyX, you can always use ERT to call LaTeX commands directly.



I take all of the diatribe personally and, don't tell me how I should
react to the words and actions of others.  In this regard, you are
rude.


What are you talking about? Nobody has sent you a diatribe, but you often wrote that you've been 
treated rude, but I never did. Of course people have different opinions and a discussion is the way 
to come to a conclusion.
I answered to my best knowledge about fonts, so why is this rude? My question how the reader should 
distinguish between the different fonts was not a joke, it really interest me.

It seems to me that you quickly loose the contenance and wonder why the people 
on the mailing list
reply rude to you. I had the feeling that you are forced to switch from Ventura 
but don't want this.
This is not our problem, its yours, so either accept how LaTeX works as we cannot change it - LyX is 
just the frontend to LaTeX, or use another system.


Uwe


Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread John Coppens
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:21:14 -0500
Bruce Pourciau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts  
 on how I can make this go smoothly for them?

Can't she run your LyX remotely? Maybe make an account for her on your
machine?

John


Portable Lyx

2008-04-09 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Does anyone know, if there is a portable version of lyx anywhere, that 
is running without problems from an usb-stick?   And if there is, how it 
is to arrange with miktex an so on the stick?


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Re: Portable Lyx

2008-04-09 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Matthias Schmidt wrote:
Does anyone know, if there is a portable version of lyx anywhere, that 
is running without problems from an usb-stick?   And if there is, how it 
is to arrange with miktex an so on the stick?




You might want to look at http://portableapps.com/node/9880.

/Paul



Re: Website re-design ideas

2008-04-09 Thread Bruce Pourciau


On Apr 9, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Manveru wrote:


My penny to the well...

At first sight http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ has professional  
feeling, but
maybe little to heavy. I like http://www.python.org/ because I  
always find
this page useful. http://www.inkscape.org has simple structure, but  
is good
looking. Very professional was http://www.drupal.org, which  
contains lot of

stuff, hardly using own Drupal mechanisms.
Because the content of www.lyx.org is similar to that presented on
inkscape.org and other information are on wiki, I think Lyx should  
have very
good looking design of its main page, not necessairly full of  
stuff. It is
worth, because Lyx itself is advanced application, but poorly  
presented on

its web page.

2008/3/23, Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello all,

Over on lyx-devel, I've been discussing doing some re-design to  
the look

and
feel of www.lyx.org. I'd like to get some feedback so we know what  
people
think looks best. Here are some links to some other websites with  
designs
that all look nice, although there's a wide range in their design  
style.

So
that our graphic designer can know what kind of general design  
style would

look good, which ones of the following look best to you guys?

http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
http://www.python.org/
http://www.scipy.org/
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

If there are other websites that you guys think are particularly well
designed, please let us know!


Rex



Of those listed above, I like these two:

http://www.inkscape.org
http://www.scipy.org

Both are simple, clean, visually appealing, easy to explore, and  
informative.


Bruce






Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Bruce Pourciau


On Apr 9, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


Bruce Pourciau schrieb:

Is there any reason this might not work? (I'm running LyX/Mac  
1.4.1 and she's running Windows XP).


Should work, but you should both use the same major LyX Version. I  
recommend to use LyX 1.5 not 1.4.


I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any  
thoughts on how I can make this go smoothly for them?


The easiest way is to download the small variant of e.g. this  
installer and start it with admin priviledges:
https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php? 
group_id=5117release_id=14372
(http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/LyX-154-3-23- 
AltInstaller-Small.exe)


The installer has an option to install it without using LaTeX.


Is this _not_ true of most LyX installers? In other words, is it  
generally the case that a LyX installer or LyX itself will complain  
and even not allow a LyX document to be opened and typed into when  
LaTeX is not installed?


Bruce



Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Bruce Pourciau schrieb:


The installer has an option to install it without using LaTeX.


Is this _not_ true of most LyX installers? In other words, is it 
generally the case that a LyX installer or LyX itself will complain and 
even not allow a LyX document to be opened and typed into when LaTeX is 
not installed?


You misunderstood me. The installer has an option to use LyX without LaTeX. You can use LyX as 
normal, except of previewing/exporting. Some warnings may also occur that a LateX-package is not 
available and you won't get any output, but you can ignore this. Just test it out.


regards Uwe


Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Joost Verburg

Bruce Pourciau wrote:
Is this _not_ true of most LyX installers? In other words, is it 
generally the case that a LyX installer or LyX itself will complain and 
even not allow a LyX document to be opened and typed into when LaTeX is 
not installed?


The official installer also allows you to install LyX without LaTeX.

Joost



Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Eberhard Lisse wrote:


I would just install the complete stuff and don't tell the secretary about
LaTeX.


  Another option for situations like Bruce's is to use a linux live cd. I
believe that both Knoppix and the [X|K|G|Edu]ubuntu family come with both
latex (tetex is the usual flavor) and LyX. The documents can be saved to
disk and exchanged the usual way, while the system is left otherwise
untouched.

Rich

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Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Eberhard Lisse

I would just install the complete stuff and don't tell the
secretary about LaTeX.

That's what I did actually :-)-O

greetings, el

on 4/9/08 3:21 PM Bruce Pourciau said the following:
Elbow problems have begun to make it hard for me to type a long 
manuscript into LyX. I was thinking that we could install LyX (but not 
LaTeX) on my secretary's machine, and then she could type the ms into 
LyX, perhaps typing ff or something whenever there's a formula that 
would require LaTeX (so that she wouldn't have to learn about mathmode 
stuff), and then after getting the LyX file from her by email, I could 
open it and insert the formulas. Is there any reason this might not 
work? (I'm running LyX/Mac 1.4.1 and she's running Windows XP).


I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts on 
how I can make this go smoothly for them?


Bruce




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Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Les Denham

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 09:21 -0500, Bruce Pourciau wrote:
 I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts  
 on how I can make this go smoothly for them?

Bruce,

Another option is the portable LyX mentioned in another thread earlier
today.
http://portableapps.com/node/9880

Les



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

William R. Buckley schrieb:


Telling me, even suggesting to me, how I should react to the
written words of others is rude.
The telling is what is rude.

 You treated me rudely when you suggested how I should be
 affected by the written words of others.

What, it is rude that I said you shouldn't take André's reply personally?


LyX can satisfy all my needs.  However, in Ventura Publisher,
I can set every characteristic of each and every character in 
a document, even one that is thousands of pages, and hundreds

of thousands of words, setting each different from all others.

A different typeface for every character!


Yes, but unreadable. You doubt the power of LaTeX, but why use every publisher company I have worked 
with LaTeX? Surely not for its lack of power but for its strengths.



This is the power available.  If LyX/LaTeX/TeX cannot supply
this kind of capability, well, so be it.


Damn, read the link I have sent you and learn how the font stuff is done you will see that you can 
do everything with LaTeX.


I'm out as my patience is.

Uwe


Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 14:42, Joost Verburg wrote:
 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
  Perhaps I'm missing something, but if there's no LaTeX installed, won't
  the LyX configuration script decide that none of the layouts are usable,
  making it impossible to start (or I assume open) a document?

 You can still open the document.

 Joost

Yeah, but if you save your document, won't all your styles disappear?

SteveTTroubleshooting: Just the Facts


Re: multiplatform vector drawing program to use

2008-04-09 Thread Oscar Lopez
Oscar Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Thank you very much for your contributions to this thread

I would like to give a brief summary of what I have been able to learn

I gave a try to inkscape however it seems that the render of latex formula is
broken at linux at version 0.45. Last stable version I haven't been able to
compile at linux and I can not comment

So far, the more promising try have been ipe. It seems that latex formulae can
be easily inserted. There are some minor issues that I have to get used, but it
could be the tool we are looking for.

PyX seems to much low level for my taste. We were looking something more 
drag'n'drop

Before I recommend my colleague to give a try to jfig I'd like to hear from
people that have used it if jfig can be used the same way that xfig with the
external material inset (taking care of latex formula rendering internally using
some python scripts)

Other possibility would be cygwin however it will depend on the policy of the
system administration where he works.

Once again thank you very much for your valuable contributions.







Re: Name of the Mascot (Was: New splash screen (Was: LyX logo))

2008-04-09 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Dienstag, 8. April 2008 23:02 schrieb Luis Rivera:
> curtis osterhoudt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I don't see that "LyXia" engenders "oral" thoughts, though I'd be more
>
> strongly inclined to give the
>
> > program a try if it did! Besides, would this mean that Word users suffer
> > from
>
> dysLyXia?
>
>
> If the thread (and vote) are still open, I'd say "LyX" is just fine;
> alternative: FeLyX (although a cat would be better then :)
>
> On the LyDia/dysLyXia front, why not aLyXia? (although alyxiae seem to be
> plants rather than animals).
>
> My penny contribution,
>
> Luis.


my penny contribution:

LyXle

mind you, LyX was created in Tuebingen, which belongs to Swabia (Germany), and 
the Swabians put a le at the end of a word for diminution. An advantage is, 
its pronouncable for GBs and USs easily (though not as the swabians do)

Wolfgang


Re: No accents when mastering a document (Spanish) ??

2008-04-09 Thread Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo

El mar, 08-04-2008 a las 10:12 +0200, G. Milde escribió:
> On  7.04.08, Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo wrote:
> 
> > So I don't know what to do, if I should abandon the idea of building a
> > master document,since I don't see clearly which advantages it really
> > provides. Anyone could point me any? 
> 
> You will get the advantage of a common document 
> 
>  * continuous page numbers
>  * continuous chapter and section numbers
>  * table of contents for the whole document
>  * common bibliography section
>  * cross-references between different chapters "just work"
>  * ...
>  
> as well as the advantages of smaller documents 
> 
>  * faster compiling (i.e. faster preview of just one chapter)
>  * faster navigation in a document
>  * improved security: a corrupt sub-document does not affect the whole.
>  * ...
> 
> There are disadvantages as well but this was not the question.
> 

You are very very illustrative, thanks.

> > Besides, the master document has not built-in the sets of child
> > documents, has it? 
> 
> The master document source contains just a link to the child documents.
> - this way is it remains a very small file.
> The same is used for graphics.
> 

I've got already the idea :-) But yes, that was the sense of my
question ;-)

> For my thesis, I have a directory structure like
> 
>   Diss/
>  main.lyx % master
>  preamble.tex   % used with \input{preamble.tex}
>  math-macros.lyx  % included in master and childs (as branch)
>  Einleitung/% chapter 1
>einleitung.lyx   % child document
>plot.eps % vector graphic, included as is
>photo1.jpg   % pixel graphic, wrapped in eps by LyX
>  Grundgleichungen/  % chapter 2
>feldkopplung.svg % vector graphic, converted to eps by LyX
>impulsfolge.gnuplot% gnuplot source of a plot
>impulsfolge.eps  % gnuplot eps output, included as is
>...% more supporting files
>  ...% more chapter subdirectories
>  zusammenfassung.lyx  % a chapter without supporting files
>  Anhang/% appendix
>...  % LyX source and supporting files
>
> which will combined be not take more disk space than a corresponding
> openoffice or other office-suite file with included graphics.
>  
> I can easily pack it in a zip or tar.bz2 archive if I want to move
> or store it as a single file.
> 
> > Consequently, the whole set of child docs should be
> > there forever, if I've understood it rightly.
> 
> No, only as long as the master document is there ;-)
> 
> GM

:-))

Thanks again, you talked very clearly.

Cheers,
Daniel



Re: Float Placement in Windows version of LYX

2008-04-09 Thread Siegfried MEUNIER-GUTTIN-CLUZEL

I suppose it is Document > Settings  and choose Float placement
( I translate from french ... sorry ).

Hope it helps.
Siegfried.




Re: Lyx crashing on custom template

2008-04-09 Thread hectic styler
Did one of windows binary maintainers want to see if they could reproduce this?

wes


On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:12 PM, hectic styler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The main.lyx file included in
>  http://www.threewordslong.com/downloads/lyx/unswthesis.zip exhibits
>  this behavior.
>
>  If you remove the first three lines (i.e. the title and author ) you
>  can view the file in 1.5.4.  If either the title or author are
>  included in the lyx file the file doesn't view.
>
>  wes
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Andre Poenitz
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 01:41:14PM +1000, hectic styler wrote:
>  >  > The template can be found here
>  >  >
>  >  > 
> http://www.threewordslong.com/blog/entry/63/A_LyX_Thesis_Layout_for_UNSW_T
>  >  >
>  >  > wes
>  >  >
>  >  > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:36 PM, hectic styler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  > > Hi,
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  Upon installing Lyx 1.5.4 (+ MiKTex) on MS Vista, I can open up my
>  >  > >  custom template fine, but trying to view the main.lyx as pdf 
> generates
>  >  > >  an error "Undefined control error" - viewing the chapter alone
>  >  > >  generates the same error but I can view the pdf. Installing Lyx 1.5.3
>  >  > >  allows me to view as pdf fine - is this a known regression and has it
>  >  > >  been fixed in subversion?
>  >
>  >  I can't reproduce your problem with a very simple example text using
>  >  your layout.
>  >
>  >  If you send me your thesis preferably cut down to the minimal amount
>  >  that still exhibits the problem I'll have a look.
>  >
>  >  Andre'
>  >
>


Re: Just the name of the chapter right in the header, unable of getting it. How how how...

2008-04-09 Thread Filippo Zangheri
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Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo ha scritto:
> El mar, 08-04-2008 a las 10:52 +0200, Filippo Zangheri escribió:
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>> Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo ha scritto:
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> Honestly, I hope to get to explain good enough. The issue is very
>>> simple. 
>>>
>>> What I've done until now in order to sorting this out has been just
>>> taping in the preamble, inside "\rhead{}", the string I wanted to be
>>> appeared there (using the fancyhdr). But how to do if I want the same
>>> result using code? 
>>>
>>> I've tried several combinations, but without results. Actually, I never
>>> knew much what I  was really doing, since I know nothing about LaTeX,
>>> but the "try and error" method didn't gave me a only chance either.
>>>
>>> In a pdf document ("Page layout in LaTeX", Piet van Oostrum, Utrecht
>>> University, 2004), page 10, it shows several examples of this, more...
>>> what I wanted was there... !!!, __just__ the third from the end, very
>>> simple:
>>>
>>> \renewcommand{\chaptermark}[1]{%
>>>  \markboth{#1}{}}
>> Hi Miguel,
>>
>> Try using the syntax below, maybe you are not using \leftmark?
>>
>> \usepackage{fancyhdr}
>> \pagestyle{fancy}
>> \renewcommand{\chaptermark}[1]{\markboth{#1}{}}
>> \fancyhead[ER,OR,EL,OL]{}
>> \fancyhead[EC,OC]{Your Name\hfill \leftmark}
>>
>> As a note, if you find that header font is too small, you can always
>> do: \begin{large}  \end{large} .
>>
>> Greetings.
>>
>>
>> - --
>> Filippo Zangheri
>>
> 
> Thank you for your suggestion, Filippo.
> 
> I've tried with that, removing much of the lines I had in the preamble;
> this is what is there at the moment:
> 
> \AtBeginDocument{%
> \addto\captionsspanish{%
> \renewcommand{\chaptername}{Tema }%
> }}
> \usepackage{fancyhdr}
> \pagestyle{fancy}
> \renewcommand{\chaptermark}[1]{\markboth{#1}{}}
> \fancyhead[ER,OR,EL,OL]{}
> \fancyhead[EC,OC]{Biología\hfill \leftmark} 
> \cfoot{\thepage}

You can safely remove this last line, because that's the default
footer of "fancy" pagestyle.


> 
> This code works, since:
>   a. To the left of each page, heading, appears the string wanted.
>   b. To the right of the same page, heading, takes place the title of the
> chapter, as desired, but...
> 
>   1. There is a minor detail, a difference in relation to what I wanted:
> it appears in upper case letters; I didn't wanted in that way, but lower
> case letters except the first, e.g. Nucleic acids, not NUCLEIC ACIDS.

Strange, indeed! I copied your LaTeX preamble and put it into the
LaTeX preamble of a new document, then I created a master document
with two children and the result is literally the one you wish:
lowercase chapter name. I attached those three files, check by yourself.


>   2. Besides, now a new (big) fail has appeared: the number page is the
> "1" in all pages of the master document. Much probably this has to do
> with the ERT that I had placed at the beginning of each document
> (child), just after the chapter, this one:
>   
> \setcounter{page}{1}
> 
> This did let me to obtain a desired effect: to reset page numbers when
> starting each chapter. I know this practise is not much common, but for
> some materials it reveals to be very practical (specially for pupils). 
> 
> Is there any work around for solving these issues, please?

To fix the problem, try to put the ERT[\setcounter{page}{1}] at the
very beginning of the child document - before the chapter. ;)


Best regards.

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Re: Setting align as the default environment for multiline formulas

2008-04-09 Thread Guy Rutenberg
Hi,

Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


> This can be done by redefining the eqnarray environment to be the align
environment, you should find 
>   how this is done in the archive of this list.
> 
> regards Uwe
> 
> 

Thanks very much for your reply. I tried searching the archive and google but
couldn't find anything useful.

Using \renewenvironment didn't work (LyX still treats it as an eqnarray and adds
an extra &).

Could you give me more detailed pointers to where I may find a solution?

Regards,

Guy



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

William R. Buckley schrieb:


On this point, you and I strongly disagree.  There are many
times when a document could benefit by the use of more
than one font.  I can send you example documents which
do use several fonts, and would be difficult to fathom if only
one font were used.


You mix "fonts" and "font shapes". LyX offers you three major font shapes: italic/slanted, roman 
(serif), sansserif, and the font styles emphasized and noun (capitals). In math you can even use 
blackboard and calligraphic letters. That's enough and no book I know uses more.


Having more than one font, I don't mean not font styles or shapes, is bad typography. Every 
typography books tells you this, you can also talk to publishers or typographers when you don't 
believe me.



If this is a limitation of LyX/LaTeX/Tex, that only one font
can be supported per document, then these tools are
grossly underpowered compared to even the lowly Ventura
Publisher.


As said above, you misunderstood "font".


Consequently, many times I need special fonts to represent
the states of my cellular automatons.


Are the different font styles and shapes not enough? I mean how could distinguish you automatons by 
using different fonts as the difference between e.g. the fonts Verdana and Tahoma are not visible on 
the first look and by every reader.



It is interesting that another reply from another respondent
directed their effort to (i) assure me that strike-through is
available, if only I'd (ii) read the documentation.


It is available, but you need to use ERT (LaTeX commands directly).
Due to the Unicode problematic, we don'tr offer support for now as I wrote.


The observation reported respecting file browsing behavior
was met with such discord as to discourage any other
such report.  The more telling behavior is that another
developer (Joost) noted the error was in LyX implementation,
and that he corrected the problem.


Yep, it'S fixed for the next LyX version 1.5.5.


Interesting to me is
that Andre Pönitz vociferously and rudely suggested to me
that the problem must be resident in Window, the OS.


These are the usual "Windows is a bad OS comments", don't take this personally.

regards Uwe


Re: Float Placement in Windows version of LYX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

neon none schrieb:


I am trying to control the float placement in Windows version of Lyx.


Have a look at section 3.5 of the EmbeddedObjects manual.

regards Uwe


Re: multiplatform vector drawing program to use

2008-04-09 Thread G. Milde
On  8.04.08, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:

>> Is there a SVG to PSTricks converter? Can you imagine how cool that would 
>> be?!


> Seems to me I saw somewhere that Inkscape can read SVG (is that its  
> native format?) 

It is. 

> and export to PSTricks.

However, AFAIK, it converts text to paths in the process so it will show in
the PS (or PDF) output exactly as in the SVG.

The Effect>Render>Latex-Formula worked on my Debian/testing system
with Inkscape 0.45.1 (Mar  8 2008). It is not very suitable for
converting *all* text elements in a graphic. However, it should be possible
to customize inkscape to use the same fonts as your LyX document.
I did not take the time to figure out how to teach the Render>Latex-Formula
script which latex font package to use.

GM


Re: Setting align as the default environment for multiline formulas

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Guy Rutenberg schrieb:


Using \renewenvironment didn't work (LyX still treats it as an eqnarray and adds
an extra &).


Sorry my fault, this is of course not possible because align has 2 columns, 
eqnarray 3 columns.

So the easiest way is to define a keyboard shortcut that inserts an align equation. How to define 
such a shortcut is explained in the Customization manual. (The next major LyX release has a dilaog 
where you can define them much more easier.)

For existing formulas, use the menu Edit -> Math -> Change formula type 
(shortcut Alt-m t a).

regards Uwe


Re: Float Placement in Windows version of LYX

2008-04-09 Thread Paul A. Rubin

neon none wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to control the float placement in Windows version of Lyx. While
the LyxWiki prescribes going to Layout menu and use Float placement dialog
to do so, I see no such 'Layout' menu in the version I am using (LyxWindows
1.5.4) [the official windows installation].  So, what should I do to control
float placement in Lyx windows version?

Thanks,
Neon



Right click somewhere in the float (but not in the caption) and the 
layout menu will pop up.


/Paul



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


You mix "fonts" and "font shapes".


  It seems a very common misconception. Too many people use the word 'font'
when they refer to 'typeface.' A 'font' is a particular typeface (Palatino,
Amerigo, Bookman), shape (Roman, Slant, Italic), weight (normal, bold,
thin), and size (10pt, 11pt, 12pt). That's why you'll see so many entries in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ with the same family name.

  In the days when all printed documents were hand-set with metal type,
typesetters had many large wooden trays, each with numerous small
compartments (one for each character in that font set). Each tray contained
a single font.

  Now, with computers doing all the work, we've lost sight of the
distinctions in terms, call everything a 'font,' and end up
miscommunicating.

  In most documents, only two typefaces are used: a serif typeface as the
body text and a san-serif typeface as the headline (part, chapter, section,
etc.) text. Within the body text, emphasis is usually by changing the shape
to Italic or slant (if the former is not available). Bold and underline are
not used. (Take a look at a newspaper, book, or magazine and see if you can
find bold or underlined text used.) Underlined text is a hold-over from
typewriter days, and I suspect (but do not know) that bold is the creation
of the earlier word processors (e.g., Wang and those on monochrome-monitored
PCs) that could not display Italic fonts. Current word processors (Wurd,
OO.o., AbiWord) continue to provide these typographic oddities, and writers
continue to use them.

  If we all use typographic terms with precision we'll communicate much more
clearly and effectively.

Your local curmudgeon,

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Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Rich Shepard wrote:

> It seems a very common misconception. Too many people use the word 'font'
> when they refer to 'typeface.' A 'font' is a particular typeface
> (Palatino, Amerigo, Bookman), shape (Roman, Slant, Italic), weight
> (normal, bold, thin), and size (10pt, 11pt, 12pt). That's why you'll see
> so many entries in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ with the same family name.

Depends. Actually, a font is a kind of "economic" entity. It's a collection
of shapes and sizes (or a specific shape) of a given type face, as it is
sold by the type _foundry_ (e.g. Linotype or Adobe). Historically, a font
(or found, for traditionalists) was indeed a set of metal types,
distributed and sold as an entity. Nowadays, a font is a file which
contains information about glyphs, metrics etc. for a subset (or the whole)
of a typeface.

So, strictly speaking, font is just the material "container", the thing you
install on your computer. What you select in the application are type
faces, shapes, sizes etc.

Jürgen



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

> (or found, for traditionalists)

I feel the traditionalists attacking. Of course, it's spelled "fount".

Jürgen



LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Bruce Pourciau
Elbow problems have begun to make it hard for me to type a long  
manuscript into LyX. I was thinking that we could install LyX (but  
not LaTeX) on my secretary's machine, and then she could type the ms  
into LyX, perhaps typing ff or something whenever there's a formula  
that would require LaTeX (so that she wouldn't have to learn about  
mathmode stuff), and then after getting the LyX file from her by  
email, I could open it and insert the formulas. Is there any reason  
this might not work? (I'm running LyX/Mac 1.4.1 and she's running  
Windows XP).


I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts  
on how I can make this go smoothly for them?


Bruce


Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Bruce Pourciau schrieb:

Is there any reason this might not 
work? (I'm running LyX/Mac 1.4.1 and she's running Windows XP).


Should work, but you should both use the same major LyX Version. I recommend to 
use LyX 1.5 not 1.4.

I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts on 
how I can make this go smoothly for them?


The easiest way is to download the small variant of e.g. this installer and start it with admin 
priviledges:

https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5117_id=14372
(http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/LyX-154-3-23-AltInstaller-Small.exe)

The installer has an option to install it without using LaTeX.

regards Uwe


Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 11:57:55AM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> William R. Buckley schrieb:
>> Interesting to me is
>> that Andre Pönitz vociferously and rudely suggested to me
>> that the problem must be resident in Window, the OS.

Are you refering to
 
  http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg63573.html

?

If not, what else?

Andre'


Re: Website re-design ideas

2008-04-09 Thread Manveru
My penny to the well...

At first sight http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ has professional feeling, but
maybe little to heavy. I like http://www.python.org/ because I always find
this page useful. http://www.inkscape.org has simple structure, but is good
looking. Very professional was http://www.drupal.org, which contains lot of
stuff, hardly using own Drupal mechanisms.
Because the content of www.lyx.org is similar to that presented on
inkscape.org and other information are on wiki, I think Lyx should have very
good looking design of its main page, not necessairly full of stuff. It is
worth, because Lyx itself is advanced application, but poorly presented on
its web page.

2008/3/23, Rex C. Eastbourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Over on lyx-devel, I've been discussing doing some re-design to the look
> and
> feel of www.lyx.org. I'd like to get some feedback so we know what people
> think looks best. Here are some links to some other websites with designs
> that all look nice, although there's a wide range in their design style.
> So
> that our graphic designer can know what kind of general design style would
> look good, which ones of the following look best to you guys?
>
> http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
> http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
> http://www.python.org/
> http://www.scipy.org/
> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
>
> If there are other websites that you guys think are particularly well
> designed, please let us know!
>
>
> Rex
>



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Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Bruce Pourciau schrieb:

Is there any reason this might not work? (I'm running LyX/Mac 1.4.1 
and she's running Windows XP).


Should work, but you should both use the same major LyX Version. I 
recommend to use LyX 1.5 not 1.4.


I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts 
on how I can make this go smoothly for them?


The easiest way is to download the small variant of e.g. this installer 
and start it with admin priviledges:
https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5117_id=14372 

(http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/LyX-154-3-23-AltInstaller-Small.exe) 



The installer has an option to install it without using LaTeX.



Perhaps I'm missing something, but if there's no LaTeX installed, won't 
the LyX configuration script decide that none of the layouts are usable, 
making it impossible to start (or I assume open) a document?


/Paul



Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Joost Verburg

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
Perhaps I'm missing something, but if there's no LaTeX installed, won't 
the LyX configuration script decide that none of the layouts are usable, 
making it impossible to start (or I assume open) a document?


You can still open the document.

Joost



Re: WRB - Summary of Experience with LyX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

William R. Buckley schrieb:


For instance,  consider the attached paper, which includes
many different fonts.
I should add that this paper has been published.


This is no excuse ;-), I have read books, written in Word and directly 
published.


One font is not always a desirable condition.

> Again, see the attached paper. Four different fonts are used in
> the construction of the paper: Arial, Times New Roman, Lucida
> Bright Math Symbol, and a Swiss 721 font.

But you also get the same, when you set in the document settings to use Arial for sansserif, Times 
New Roman for roman, and Lucida Console for typewriter. The character dialog offers to you to set 
the characters to one these three font shapes and in fact you get up to three different font in your 
document. The number of fonts depend on what you have set in the document settings for the fonts.

Also in LyX a different special math font is used.
When you look at the PDF document properties of the compiled UserGuide, you can see that behind the 
scenes even 37! different font files were used and embedded to the PDF.
If you really need a different font handling, LaTeX of course also supports this, but this is not 
supported by LyX. I refer to

http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/

LaTeX can do anything with text you can imagine of and with LyX you have access to this, if 
something is not supported by LyX, you can always use ERT to call LaTeX commands directly.



I take all of the diatribe personally and, don't tell me how I should
react to the words and actions of others.  In this regard, you are
rude.


What are you talking about? Nobody has sent you a diatribe, but you often wrote that you've been 
treated rude, but I never did. Of course people have different opinions and a discussion is the way 
to come to a conclusion.
I answered to my best knowledge about fonts, so why is this rude? My question how the reader should 
distinguish between the different fonts was not a joke, it really interest me.

It seems to me that you quickly loose the contenance and wonder why the people 
on the mailing list
reply rude to you. I had the feeling that you are forced to switch from Ventura 
but don't want this.
This is not our problem, its yours, so either accept how LaTeX works as we cannot change it - LyX is 
just the frontend to LaTeX, or use another system.


Uwe


Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread John Coppens
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:21:14 -0500
Bruce Pourciau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts  
> on how I can make this go smoothly for them?

Can't she run your LyX remotely? Maybe make an account for her on your
machine?

John


Portable Lyx

2008-04-09 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Does anyone know, if there is a portable version of lyx anywhere, that 
is running without problems from an usb-stick?   And if there is, how it 
is to arrange with miktex an so on the stick?


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Re: Portable Lyx

2008-04-09 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Matthias Schmidt wrote:
Does anyone know, if there is a portable version of lyx anywhere, that 
is running without problems from an usb-stick?   And if there is, how it 
is to arrange with miktex an so on the stick?




You might want to look at http://portableapps.com/node/9880.

/Paul



Re: Website re-design ideas

2008-04-09 Thread Bruce Pourciau


On Apr 9, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Manveru wrote:


My penny to the well...

At first sight http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ has professional  
feeling, but
maybe little to heavy. I like http://www.python.org/ because I  
always find
this page useful. http://www.inkscape.org has simple structure, but  
is good
looking. Very professional was http://www.drupal.org, which  
contains lot of

stuff, hardly using own Drupal mechanisms.
Because the content of www.lyx.org is similar to that presented on
inkscape.org and other information are on wiki, I think Lyx should  
have very
good looking design of its main page, not necessairly full of  
stuff. It is
worth, because Lyx itself is advanced application, but poorly  
presented on

its web page.

2008/3/23, Rex C. Eastbourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hello all,

Over on lyx-devel, I've been discussing doing some re-design to  
the look

and
feel of www.lyx.org. I'd like to get some feedback so we know what  
people
think looks best. Here are some links to some other websites with  
designs
that all look nice, although there's a wide range in their design  
style.

So
that our graphic designer can know what kind of general design  
style would

look good, which ones of the following look best to you guys?

http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
http://www.python.org/
http://www.scipy.org/
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

If there are other websites that you guys think are particularly well
designed, please let us know!


Rex



Of those listed above, I like these two:

http://www.inkscape.org
http://www.scipy.org

Both are simple, clean, visually appealing, easy to explore, and  
informative.


Bruce






Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Bruce Pourciau


On Apr 9, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


Bruce Pourciau schrieb:

Is there any reason this might not work? (I'm running LyX/Mac  
1.4.1 and she's running Windows XP).


Should work, but you should both use the same major LyX Version. I  
recommend to use LyX 1.5 not 1.4.


I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any  
thoughts on how I can make this go smoothly for them?


The easiest way is to download the small variant of e.g. this  
installer and start it with admin priviledges:
https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php? 
group_id=5117_id=14372
(http://prdownload.berlios.de/lyxwininstall/LyX-154-3-23- 
AltInstaller-Small.exe)


The installer has an option to install it without using LaTeX.


Is this _not_ true of most LyX installers? In other words, is it  
generally the case that a LyX installer or LyX itself will complain  
and even not allow a LyX document to be opened and typed into when  
LaTeX is not installed?


Bruce



Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Bruce Pourciau schrieb:


The installer has an option to install it without using LaTeX.


Is this _not_ true of most LyX installers? In other words, is it 
generally the case that a LyX installer or LyX itself will complain and 
even not allow a LyX document to be opened and typed into when LaTeX is 
not installed?


You misunderstood me. The installer has an option to use LyX without LaTeX. You can use LyX as 
normal, except of previewing/exporting. Some warnings may also occur that a LateX-package is not 
available and you won't get any output, but you can ignore this. Just test it out.


regards Uwe


Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Joost Verburg

Bruce Pourciau wrote:
Is this _not_ true of most LyX installers? In other words, is it 
generally the case that a LyX installer or LyX itself will complain and 
even not allow a LyX document to be opened and typed into when LaTeX is 
not installed?


The official installer also allows you to install LyX without LaTeX.

Joost



Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Eberhard Lisse wrote:


I would just install the complete stuff and don't tell the secretary about
LaTeX.


  Another option for situations like Bruce's is to use a linux live cd. I
believe that both Knoppix and the [X|K|G|Edu]ubuntu family come with both
latex (tetex is the usual flavor) and LyX. The documents can be saved to
disk and exchanged the usual way, while the system is left otherwise
untouched.

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Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Eberhard Lisse

I would just install the complete stuff and don't tell the
secretary about LaTeX.

That's what I did actually :-)-O

greetings, el

on 4/9/08 3:21 PM Bruce Pourciau said the following:
Elbow problems have begun to make it hard for me to type a long 
manuscript into LyX. I was thinking that we could install LyX (but not 
LaTeX) on my secretary's machine, and then she could type the ms into 
LyX, perhaps typing ff or something whenever there's a formula that 
would require LaTeX (so that she wouldn't have to learn about mathmode 
stuff), and then after getting the LyX file from her by email, I could 
open it and insert the formulas. Is there any reason this might not 
work? (I'm running LyX/Mac 1.4.1 and she's running Windows XP).


I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts on 
how I can make this go smoothly for them?


Bruce




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Re: LyX Without LaTeX

2008-04-09 Thread Les Denham

On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 09:21 -0500, Bruce Pourciau wrote:
> I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her machine. Any thoughts  
> on how I can make this go smoothly for them?

Bruce,

Another option is the portable LyX mentioned in another thread earlier
today.
http://portableapps.com/node/9880

Les



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