1.6.2 alt installer on Windows and MikTex

2009-03-16 Thread James Mansion
I've just run Lyx-162-4-18-AltInstaller-Complete.exe.  I had a 1.5.3 
install that I uninstalled first.


When it comes to update MikTex, it says 'MikTex 2.5 is not supported any 
more. ...'


Is that normal, or has something gone wrong?

James



Re: Linguistics Module: Changing the example spacing

2009-03-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
David Terhart wrote:
 In the example environment (which comes from covington.sty, I think),
 there is pretty much line space between the examle title and what we put
 in the example. Here's some sample LyX code:

 \begin{example}
   \label{exa:popish kiwor}popish kiwor%
   \begin{linggloss}
   po-pi-sh kiwor
   one-CLF:long\thin-one snake
   \glt eine Schlange
   \end{linggloss}
   DC-081114L
 \end{example}

I never thought of using example/glosses that way. As Richard already said, 
it's the way glosses are defined by the package covington. There are two 
solutions:

1.) If you have only a few such example glosses, insert at the end of the 
first line \vspace{-\baselineskip} in TeX mode.

2.) To globally change the spacing, insert to preamble:

\def\gll{%
\begin{flushleft}
\def\baselinestretch{1}%
\...@selfnt%
\vskip-\baselineskip%
\bgroup
\catcode`\^^M=12
\twosent
}

However, this might make glosses in other contexts look bad.

Jürgen


Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Johannes Asal
Piero Faustini pierofaust...@... writes:

 
 I understand what are your needs, because almost identical as mine.
 I had to discard lilypond-book because it was too difficoult to integrate 
 with 
 LyX. I must admit I didn't try too much: but I use a lot of multiple-pass 
 packages such BibLaTeX (a sort of enhanced bibTeX), indexes and so on, so I 
 think it would be difficuolt to have everything work without problems, and 
 almost impossible to have a working instant preview of the whole doc.
  It seems that a theory book (as a musicological research on librettoes) 
 doesn't need a lot of long music examples, so the advantages of lilypond-book 
 (basically: ability to draw music snipetts in different environments) are not 
 so important.
 This is what I use: I have a directory of musical examples in .ly files, 
 which 
 have a simple code that have all the white space cut. (can't find the thread 
 where this was discussed, I will post it later).
 I use Insert - File - External material - Lilypond file. It can give instant 
 preview (and allows direct link to the predefined Lilypond editor, if you 
 find 
 some error) so is ALMOST as having the code directly in the LyX doc.
 If you need multiple lines examples, this can be hard to achieve if you need 
 lines to cross between pages, but I think a solution can be found. Stay tuned.
 Hope it was clear
 
 

Thanks for your answer. I was checking the nabble forum so I didn't read your
posts. I think the External material solution is not optimal, as it forces you
to interrupt your creative process. You need to switch to another application
and create a lilypond file, then go back to lyx and import it. Of course you
could prepare all the files before starting to write the text, but who knows
exactly what kind of musical examples he will need in his book?

I'm not really sure, what would be the best solution. But what I'm sure about is
that there should be a solution. Not even Finale or Sibelius provide real
support for writing musicological documents. Considering the price you have to
pay for them, that's a real shame.



Re: Weird problem with bibtex from LyX (but not from Latex)

2009-03-16 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-15, Stefano Franchi wrote:

 3. The preamble of the master document calls the \bibliography commands
with 4 .bib files

As the preamble is free LaTeX source (like ERT), lyx is not aware of
the \bibliography call there.

Where are your .bib files?

 launching lyx from console and looking at the output reveals that the
 problem is that bibtex cannot find the bib files:

 However, If I export to the whole manuscript to latex (plain) and
 compile from the command line everything works fine, all the bib
 references are found, etcetera.

LyX uses a temporary directory. This might be the cause. You can try to
disable the temporary directory (I don't know how exactly but guess
that giving an empty path for the TempDir in Toolssettings helps).

 2. I tried creating soft links to the actual files in the local
directory and substituting just file names for absolute paths.  No
difference.

I would try to put (or link) the *.bib files into a directory in the
BIBINPUTS path, so it is found by LaTeX/BibTeX from everywhere.

.. and substituting just file names for absolute paths.


Günter



Re: Document class not available

2009-03-16 Thread Hicham Mouline
Hicham Mouline schrieb:
 I did that, while connected, however the Tools/Reconfigure took 10s only.
 After restarting Lyx (this time starting Lyx was much faster) however, 
 the exact same error happened.
Then there is something wrong with your LaTeX installation. Are you using 
Windows and MiKTeX?
Yes

If so what version of MiKTeX and what Windows?
WinXPSP3, Miktex 2.7

Please also try to update MiKTeX using its Update program and then redo then 
again reconfigure LyX.
will do, thanks.

regards,


Re: 1.6.2 alt installer on Windows and MikTex

2009-03-16 Thread Manveru
2009/3/16 James Mansion ja...@mansionfamily.plus.com

 I've just run Lyx-162-4-18-AltInstaller-Complete.exe.  I had a 1.5.3
 install that I uninstalled first.

 When it comes to update MikTex, it says 'MikTex 2.5 is not supported any
 more. ...'

 Is that normal, or has something gone wrong?

 James


I think normal. MikTeX 2.5 has been dropped some time ago. Currently 2.7 is
stable, and 2.8 under development.

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Re: Document class not available

2009-03-16 Thread Hicham Mouline


lyx 1.6.1 Miktex 2.7.2845
When I open Help/Math, it says in the top in yellow
To export this document to PDF, PS, or DVI the LaTeX-packages eurosym, 
multirow, and was must be installed.

However, in Miktex package manager, I see that those 3 are already installed.

On clicking on the button to export to PDF, 

Lyx: couldn't export file
No information for exporting the format PDF (pdflatex)

Note that with my own .lyx, exporting to PDF works perfectly.

rds,


Re: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Nobody uses Git with LyX?

If I am alone, I will switch to RCS, which seems to be more naturally
supported by LyX.
I will regret Git because it is very quick and smart as a system.

Murat

2009/3/16 Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr:
 Hi,
 I have followed the advice I have received on the list and initiated
 the Git repository from outside of LyX and committed the version 0 of
 all my Latex files that are grouped in a directory tree. The base
 directory of this tree now contains a .git folder and git status
 tells me that everything is ready in this repository (BTW, all Git
 binaries are on my path).
 I have then done a reconfigure under Lyx but the version control
 functions under the File menu seem to continue to try to execute RCS
 commands (mainly the ci command with parameters, I have never been
 able to go further since I get of course an error message after this
 command), and not the Git ones.

 How can I tell to LyX that it should use Git instead?
 Must I reinstall Lyx of reconfigure should have been sufficient?

 Thank you in advance for your help,

 Murat




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Re: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Pavel Sanda
Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
 How can I tell to LyX that it should use Git instead?

you can't, lyx does not support git. some things can be
done through vc-command lfun though (1.6.2 thingie).
pavel


Re: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Manveru
2009/3/16 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org

 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
  How can I tell to LyX that it should use Git instead?

 you can't, lyx does not support git. some things can be
 done through vc-command lfun though (1.6.2 thingie).
 pavel


Is that a moment for new a feature request? Git popularity is growing VERY
FAST!

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Re: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Pavel Sanda
Manveru wrote:
 Is that a moment for new a feature request? Git popularity is growing VERY
 FAST!

there are unfortunately some things making git support harder in our framework,
most notably comit/push distinction and no local dirs like .svn etc, so
you are dependent either on external git status call or some non trivial
parsing/crawling through dir tree.

feel free to subscribe to http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2574 for 
staying
informed :)

pavel


Fwd: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Thanks for your help. I have tested Git after having read on the list
some message about its compatibility with LyX. I have maybe
misunderstood what I was reading. Unfortunately, I am not able to find
again this message (maybe it was from Abdelrazak Younès?).

Murat

2009/3/16 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org:
 Manveru wrote:
 Is that a moment for new a feature request? Git popularity is growing VERY
 FAST!

 there are unfortunately some things making git support harder in our 
 framework,
 most notably comit/push distinction and no local dirs like .svn etc, so
 you are dependent either on external git status call or some non trivial
 parsing/crawling through dir tree.

 feel free to subscribe to http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2574 for 
 staying
 informed :)

 pavel




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Re: Fwd: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

Thanks for your help. I have tested Git after having read on the list
some message about its compatibility with LyX. I have maybe
misunderstood what I was reading. Unfortunately, I am not able to find
again this message (maybe it was from Abdelrazak Younès?).


If it was me, this was on the devel list and about our source code 
versionning tool (I advocated switching to git from svn).


Coming back to svn support (or git for that matter), I don't see much 
benefit to current svn integration. Better to go to the command-line or 
to some graphical frontend (kdesvn for kde and ToitoiseSvn for Windows 
are quite good).


I use Qtcreator for C++ develoment for example but I don't use its 
support for git and svn, qgit and kdesvn offer a much better experience.


Things would start to be interesting when/if LyX is able to create a git 
repo per document and is also able to manage all child documents and 
referenced grapĥics :-)


Abdel.






Fwd: Fwd: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Thanks for this clarification. I have probably misunderstood your
post... Anyway, it has given me the occasion of playing with Git and I
am quite sold. I do not mind to work with it from outside, through the
command-line. I will probably write some PowerPro scripts to
automatize things for me. If I ever do, I would be happy to share them
with the list.

Murat

2009/3/16 Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org:
 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

 Thanks for your help. I have tested Git after having read on the list
 some message about its compatibility with LyX. I have maybe
 misunderstood what I was reading. Unfortunately, I am not able to find
 again this message (maybe it was from Abdelrazak Younès?).

 If it was me, this was on the devel list and about our source code
 versionning tool (I advocated switching to git from svn).

 Coming back to svn support (or git for that matter), I don't see much
 benefit to current svn integration. Better to go to the command-line or to
 some graphical frontend (kdesvn for kde and ToitoiseSvn for Windows are
 quite good).

 I use Qtcreator for C++ develoment for example but I don't use its support
 for git and svn, qgit and kdesvn offer a much better experience.

 Things would start to be interesting when/if LyX is able to create a git
 repo per document and is also able to manage all child documents and
 referenced grapĥics :-)

 Abdel.







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Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

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Re: Fwd: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
To complete my previous post, I have found this nice Windows interface for Git:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/gitextensions/

I have not time to play with it yet but it looks quite promising.
Especially to integrate Git operations in the Explorer's contextual
menu.

Murat

2009/3/16 Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr:
 Thanks for this clarification. I have probably misunderstood your
 post... Anyway, it has given me the occasion of playing with Git and I
 am quite sold. I do not mind to work with it from outside, through the
 command-line. I will probably write some PowerPro scripts to
 automatize things for me. If I ever do, I would be happy to share them
 with the list.

 Murat

 2009/3/16 Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org:
 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

 Thanks for your help. I have tested Git after having read on the list
 some message about its compatibility with LyX. I have maybe
 misunderstood what I was reading. Unfortunately, I am not able to find
 again this message (maybe it was from Abdelrazak Younès?).

 If it was me, this was on the devel list and about our source code
 versionning tool (I advocated switching to git from svn).

 Coming back to svn support (or git for that matter), I don't see much
 benefit to current svn integration. Better to go to the command-line or to
 some graphical frontend (kdesvn for kde and ToitoiseSvn for Windows are
 quite good).

 I use Qtcreator for C++ develoment for example but I don't use its support
 for git and svn, qgit and kdesvn offer a much better experience.

 Things would start to be interesting when/if LyX is able to create a git
 repo per document and is also able to manage all child documents and
 referenced grapĥics :-)

 Abdel.







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 Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
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 Centre de la Vieille Charité
 2, rue de la Charité
 13236 Marseille cedex 02

 Bureau 320
 Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
 Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
 Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
 Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

 e-mail: murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr
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 http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu
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Bureau 320
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Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
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Re: [Vimoutliner] Create ODF documents without OpenOffice.org

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 16 March 2009 10:57:12 am Lucas González wrote:
 http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2009031600335OSDTSW

 distraction-free writing environment :-)

 Lucas

Hi Lucas,

My heart skipped a beat upon hearing about reStructuredText Markup language. I 
was looking for something like that as I wrote my book in VO. But deeper 
examination of reStructuredText Markup language revealed two problems -- one 
an inconvenience and one a showstopper.

The inconvenience is table construction -- it's very impractical for a guy 
like me who can put several paragraphs within a single cell. But heck, that 
can be worked around.

The showstopper is that there's absolutely no provision for custom styles, at 
least from what I could see in the quickstart, the quick reference, and the 
specification. Writing a long document without custom styles is a Keystone 
Kops experience.

I spoze one could do what I did on my last book, and if you have a custom 
style called story, you could delineate it with story and /story within 
VimOutliner, and then in the resulting document manually convert those to the 
story paragraph style of your creation. But it sure would have been nice to 
be able to have the converter convert the style, so that all you'd need to do 
on the other end is create the story style. Or better yet, the converter 
could create a dummy story style that looks just like body text, and then you 
can modify that style and watch all text to which it's applied change 
appearance.

I could go on and on and on about various wordprocessors claiming to be 
professional, but having very rudimentary facility for styles, especially on 
converted documents. This is one of the reasons I use LyX -- styles are built 
into the LyX project's basic charter, and also they're built into LaTeX, the 
language to which LyX converts its native format.

This makes me think. Perhaps there could be an ultra-simple way to designate 
the beginning and end of a paragraph or character style (they'd have to be 
different) within VimOutliner, and then have the converter program create 
dummy styles in a layout file (LyX), or dummy styles in a CSS file (HTML). If 
one uses only styles to convey formatting changes, and I really believe 
that's the only way formatting changes SHOULD be conveyed in a long document, 
that would be sufficient to quickly turn a VO outline into a book. Paragraph 
styles would be unnecessary for headlines because they're implied by their 
depth. But character styles would be valuable within headlines, and both 
character and paragraph styles would be ultra-convernient within body text.

Trouble is, I'm the only person I know who uses both VimOutliner and LyX, and 
although I know many who author HTML with VimOutliner, I'm not nearly good 
enough at CSS to implement the HTML conversion program.

I'm copying the LyX mailing list to let them know how much I appreciate their 
facilitation of styles-based documents.

Thanks

SteveT

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some beamer questions

2009-03-16 Thread s nedunuri
Just started using beamer. I think its great. I was unable to find a beamer 
manual [entry] for lyx but i've been able to figure out most of what i need 
from looking at the examples. Couple of qs:

1. When i create a block, how do i get the block contents to actually appear 
inside the block. So what i currently have is:
Block (ERT[{title}] body): [[ {some heading} ]]
block contents

where [[ and ]] indicate a red ERT box. There seems to be some way of 
letting lyx know that the contents belong inside the blue box that appears 
on the output (b/c i see it done in the examples) but i cant figure it out

2. Suppose you have a program listing or a math array, and you want to 
animate the replacement of certain sections of the code or the introduction 
of certain pieces of code, how might that be done. I see a reference to 
overlays but the examples i looked at didn't contain them 





Re: some beamer questions

2009-03-16 Thread Siegfried Meunier-Guttin-Cluzel

There is an excellent manual in the latex distribution
file beameruserguide.pdf
LyX usage is described in this manual.

Siegfried


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.6.2 is released

2009-03-16 Thread Manveru
2009/3/15 Jürgen Spitzmüller juer...@spitzmueller.org

 Public release of LyX version 1.6.2
 ===

 [...]

 Prebuilt binaries (rpms for Linux distributions, Mac OS X and Windows
 installers) should soon be available at
http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.2/

 [...]


Who is able to tell me, where are the missing Windows installers for 1.6.2.
Has anyone compiled classic LyX installer?

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Using branches in preamble?

2009-03-16 Thread Andreas Neustifter

Hi,

I'm writing a beamer presentation in LyX and have 2 branches, one for  
handout and one for presentation.


Is it possible to have TeX-Code in the preamble based on the activated  
branches?


Grettings, Andi

PS: Great work, I love LyX.

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Re: 1.6.2 alt installer on Windows and MikTex

2009-03-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr

James Mansion schrieb:

I've just run Lyx-162-4-18-AltInstaller-Complete.exe.  I had a 1.5.3 
install that I uninstalled first.


When it comes to update MikTex, it says 'MikTex 2.5 is not supported any 
more. ...'


This is correct. You also need to uninstall MiKTeX (_completely_!) when the version is older than 
MiKTeX 2.6. After that run the LyX-162-4-18-AltInstaller-Complete.exe again.

The current version of MiKTeX is 2.7 and only version 2.6 and 2.7 are supported 
by the MiKTeX developer.

regards Uwe


Re: Document class not available

2009-03-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Hicham Mouline schrieb:


However, in Miktex package manager, I see that those 3 are already installed.

On clicking on the button to export to PDF, 


Lyx: couldn't export file
No information for exporting the format PDF (pdflatex)


Sounds like a problem with you installation. The best would be to reinstall LyX while you have an 
open Internet connection.



Note that with my own .lyx, exporting to PDF works perfectly.


This is strange because due to the problem you reported with Math.lyx, you shouldn't be able to 
compile documents in general correctly.


regards Uwe


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.6.2 is released

2009-03-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Manveru schrieb:


Who is able to tell me, where are the missing Windows installers for 1.6.2.
Has anyone compiled classic LyX installer?


Not yet, but my installer is already available at ftp.lyx.org and from here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

regards Uwe


Re: Using branches in preamble? [RESOLVED]

2009-03-16 Thread Andreas Neustifter

Hi again,

On 16.03.2009, at 19:21, Andreas Neustifter wrote:

I'm writing a beamer presentation in LyX and have 2 branches, one  
for handout and one for presentation.
Is it possible to have TeX-Code in the preamble based on the  
activated branches?


Turns out, thats not necessary. I have pictures that are overlayed  
with the Only-Environment, there I used the overlay specfication +| 
handout:0|article:0 for the first N-1 pictures and +|handout:1| 
article:1 for the N-th picture. No branches necessary in the document.


Also I used the \modehandout{ ... } directive in the preamble so  
the code is activated during printing the handout only.


I can now switch between presentation and layout simply by setting  
handout in the custom class options in the document settings.


Thanks, Grettings, Andi




PS: Great work, I love LyX.

PS: Think I love it even more right now.

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Re: Some Beamer Questions

2009-03-16 Thread Jason Waskiewicz


1. When i create a block, how do i get the block contents to actually appear 
inside the block. So what i currently have is:

Block (ERT[{title}] body): [[ {some heading} ]]
block contents
  

The way I do it is:
Block (ERT[(title} body): {Heading inside curly braces}
Point 1
Point 2

I don't remember the name for it, but I place the points under the Block 
with the arrow on the menubar: the same arrow used in an itemized list 
to make a subpoint under a main point. (A long red bar appears in front 
of everything.)


I'm afraid I know nothing about your second question, but if you find 
out the answer, I'll benefit!


--Jason Waskiewicz
 Bowman County Schools


Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Piero Faustini
Johannes Asal johannes.a...@... writes:

 Thanks for your answer. I was checking the nabble forum so I didn't read your
 posts. I think the External material solution is not optimal, as it forces 
you
 to interrupt your creative process. You need to switch to another application
 and create a lilypond file, then go back to lyx and import it. Of course you
 could prepare all the files before starting to write the text, but who knows
 exactly what kind of musical examples he will need in his book?

Sure. If creative process continuity is your need, that's pretty important. 
But I thought that creating a musical example IS a different task than write 
some text. If you just need to put in the FLOW of text some musical symbols to 
create - for example - a simple rhythm pattern or some harmony analysis, check 
the package Harmony: but not music at all.

If you think you can stand import you can do like this:
1. have a plain and blank .ly file always ready in the document directory. 
Let's call it blank.ly
2. Put it in the document with Insert etc. etc.
3. Rightclick on it and Select EDIT EXTERNALLY (MUCH BETTER if you have a 
proper tool already working, as I have, for example Lilypondtool + jEdit)
4. Edit file but save it with a new name, and just quit external editor
5. click on the example box and just select the new .ly file you just created 
(otherwise it would still point to blank.ly)
6. If preview is ON, you now should see the example in the proper place, and 
edit externally whenever you need it.

If you have hundreds of VERY tiny examples (such a pair of chords or a simple 
melody) the process could be annoying, and you were right.
 But if your examples are just small (or rather medium-size), and not 
hundreds, this method have a great advantage: you can see a preview (in your 
default editor) AND a preview in LyX (otherwise, I think, you CAN'T have, and 
you should rely on your unassisted .ly writing skills - I couldn't do so!!!)

 I'm not really sure, what would be the best solution. But what I'm sure about 
is
 that there should be a solution. Not even Finale or Sibelius provide real
 support for writing musicological documents. Considering the price you have 

Finale? Sibelius? never heard oh that, should be some exotic programs ;)

Lilypond-book IS the solution for your needs, but we LyX-Lilypond users need to 
tweak harder to have it work without problems.
But, I repeat, even when we find a way to use lilypond-book, I would continue 
to use in many case the IMPORT solution - By the way, it IS NOT a import: you 
do not import anything at all, you just USE lilypond files. Importing would be 
bad, using is great: you could manually add some stuff like a copyright line 
in every .ly file without compiling, and touch NOTHING in your LyX doc, and 
everything would work perfect at next LyX compiling.
It's just a matter of keep .ly code in external files.

Hope to have helped you.
These days I'm very busy, but in a pair of weeks I'm going to work on the 
lilypond-book thing. I quote you there should be a solution.
Bye
Piero






Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Johnson
I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.

Aside from never use a footnote in a parbox, what lesson is to be learned??

pj

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minipageAndParbox.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

2009-03-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Paul Johnson schrieb:


I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.


This behaviour is described in detail in LyX's EmbeddedObjects manual that you 
find in LyX's Help menu.

regards Uwe


Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Doug Laidlaw
I run Lyx, Lilypond and Frescobaldi.  I still use Noteedit to write Lilypond 
files, although development has stopped.  I have no reason to import Lilypond 
into Lyx, but under Converters I did notice that there are commands for 
Noteedit and Lilypond files.

Frescobaldi no longer depends on Kate, as its predecessor did.  It is 
basically an editor and processor for .ly files.  Importing probably needs 
something different.  Since the usable output from Lilypond is PostScript or 
PDF, perhaps the OP needs to look at importing those.

Doug.

On Tuesday 17 March 2009 10:09:25 am Piero Faustini wrote:
 Johannes Asal johannes.a...@... writes:
  Thanks for your answer. I was checking the nabble forum so I didn't read
  your posts. I think the External material solution is not optimal, as it
  forces

 you

  to interrupt your creative process. You need to switch to another
  application and create a lilypond file, then go back to lyx and import
  it. Of course you could prepare all the files before starting to write
  the text, but who knows exactly what kind of musical examples he will
  need in his book?

 Sure. If creative process continuity is your need, that's pretty
 important. But I thought that creating a musical example IS a different
 task than write some text. If you just need to put in the FLOW of text some
 musical symbols to create - for example - a simple rhythm pattern or some
 harmony analysis, check the package Harmony: but not music at all.

 If you think you can stand import you can do like this:
 1. have a plain and blank .ly file always ready in the document directory.
 Let's call it blank.ly
 2. Put it in the document with Insert etc. etc.
 3. Rightclick on it and Select EDIT EXTERNALLY (MUCH BETTER if you have a
 proper tool already working, as I have, for example Lilypondtool + jEdit)
 4. Edit file but save it with a new name, and just quit external editor
 5. click on the example box and just select the new .ly file you just
 created (otherwise it would still point to blank.ly)
 6. If preview is ON, you now should see the example in the proper place,
 and edit externally whenever you need it.

 If you have hundreds of VERY tiny examples (such a pair of chords or a
 simple melody) the process could be annoying, and you were right.
  But if your examples are just small (or rather medium-size), and not
 hundreds, this method have a great advantage: you can see a preview (in
 your default editor) AND a preview in LyX (otherwise, I think, you CAN'T
 have, and you should rely on your unassisted .ly writing skills - I
 couldn't do so!!!)

  I'm not really sure, what would be the best solution. But what I'm sure
  about

 is

  that there should be a solution. Not even Finale or Sibelius provide real
  support for writing musicological documents. Considering the price you
  have

 Finale? Sibelius? never heard oh that, should be some exotic programs ;)

 Lilypond-book IS the solution for your needs, but we LyX-Lilypond users
 need to tweak harder to have it work without problems.
 But, I repeat, even when we find a way to use lilypond-book, I would
 continue to use in many case the IMPORT solution - By the way, it IS NOT a
 import: you do not import anything at all, you just USE lilypond files.
 Importing would be bad, using is great: you could manually add some stuff
 like a copyright line in every .ly file without compiling, and touch
 NOTHING in your LyX doc, and everything would work perfect at next LyX
 compiling.
 It's just a matter of keep .ly code in external files.

 Hope to have helped you.
 These days I'm very busy, but in a pair of weeks I'm going to work on the
 lilypond-book thing. I quote you there should be a solution.
 Bye
 Piero




1.6.2 alt installer on Windows and MikTex

2009-03-16 Thread James Mansion
I've just run Lyx-162-4-18-AltInstaller-Complete.exe.  I had a 1.5.3 
install that I uninstalled first.


When it comes to update MikTex, it says 'MikTex 2.5 is not supported any 
more. ...'


Is that normal, or has something gone wrong?

James



Re: Linguistics Module: Changing the example spacing

2009-03-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
David Terhart wrote:
 In the example environment (which comes from covington.sty, I think),
 there is pretty much line space between the examle title and what we put
 in the example. Here's some sample LyX code:

 \begin{example}
   \label{exa:popish kiwor}popish kiwor%
   \begin{linggloss}
   po-pi-sh kiwor
   one-CLF:long\thin-one snake
   \glt eine Schlange
   \end{linggloss}
   DC-081114L
 \end{example}

I never thought of using example/glosses that way. As Richard already said, 
it's the way glosses are defined by the package covington. There are two 
solutions:

1.) If you have only a few such example glosses, insert at the end of the 
first line \vspace{-\baselineskip} in TeX mode.

2.) To globally change the spacing, insert to preamble:

\def\gll{%
\begin{flushleft}
\def\baselinestretch{1}%
\...@selfnt%
\vskip-\baselineskip%
\bgroup
\catcode`\^^M=12
\twosent
}

However, this might make glosses in other contexts look bad.

Jürgen


Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Johannes Asal
Piero Faustini pierofaust...@... writes:

 
 I understand what are your needs, because almost identical as mine.
 I had to discard lilypond-book because it was too difficoult to integrate 
 with 
 LyX. I must admit I didn't try too much: but I use a lot of multiple-pass 
 packages such BibLaTeX (a sort of enhanced bibTeX), indexes and so on, so I 
 think it would be difficuolt to have everything work without problems, and 
 almost impossible to have a working instant preview of the whole doc.
  It seems that a theory book (as a musicological research on librettoes) 
 doesn't need a lot of long music examples, so the advantages of lilypond-book 
 (basically: ability to draw music snipetts in different environments) are not 
 so important.
 This is what I use: I have a directory of musical examples in .ly files, 
 which 
 have a simple code that have all the white space cut. (can't find the thread 
 where this was discussed, I will post it later).
 I use Insert - File - External material - Lilypond file. It can give instant 
 preview (and allows direct link to the predefined Lilypond editor, if you 
 find 
 some error) so is ALMOST as having the code directly in the LyX doc.
 If you need multiple lines examples, this can be hard to achieve if you need 
 lines to cross between pages, but I think a solution can be found. Stay tuned.
 Hope it was clear
 
 

Thanks for your answer. I was checking the nabble forum so I didn't read your
posts. I think the External material solution is not optimal, as it forces you
to interrupt your creative process. You need to switch to another application
and create a lilypond file, then go back to lyx and import it. Of course you
could prepare all the files before starting to write the text, but who knows
exactly what kind of musical examples he will need in his book?

I'm not really sure, what would be the best solution. But what I'm sure about is
that there should be a solution. Not even Finale or Sibelius provide real
support for writing musicological documents. Considering the price you have to
pay for them, that's a real shame.



Re: Weird problem with bibtex from LyX (but not from Latex)

2009-03-16 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-15, Stefano Franchi wrote:

 3. The preamble of the master document calls the \bibliography commands
with 4 .bib files

As the preamble is free LaTeX source (like ERT), lyx is not aware of
the \bibliography call there.

Where are your .bib files?

 launching lyx from console and looking at the output reveals that the
 problem is that bibtex cannot find the bib files:

 However, If I export to the whole manuscript to latex (plain) and
 compile from the command line everything works fine, all the bib
 references are found, etcetera.

LyX uses a temporary directory. This might be the cause. You can try to
disable the temporary directory (I don't know how exactly but guess
that giving an empty path for the TempDir in Toolssettings helps).

 2. I tried creating soft links to the actual files in the local
directory and substituting just file names for absolute paths.  No
difference.

I would try to put (or link) the *.bib files into a directory in the
BIBINPUTS path, so it is found by LaTeX/BibTeX from everywhere.

.. and substituting just file names for absolute paths.


Günter



Re: Document class not available

2009-03-16 Thread Hicham Mouline
Hicham Mouline schrieb:
 I did that, while connected, however the Tools/Reconfigure took 10s only.
 After restarting Lyx (this time starting Lyx was much faster) however, 
 the exact same error happened.
Then there is something wrong with your LaTeX installation. Are you using 
Windows and MiKTeX?
Yes

If so what version of MiKTeX and what Windows?
WinXPSP3, Miktex 2.7

Please also try to update MiKTeX using its Update program and then redo then 
again reconfigure LyX.
will do, thanks.

regards,


Re: 1.6.2 alt installer on Windows and MikTex

2009-03-16 Thread Manveru
2009/3/16 James Mansion ja...@mansionfamily.plus.com

 I've just run Lyx-162-4-18-AltInstaller-Complete.exe.  I had a 1.5.3
 install that I uninstalled first.

 When it comes to update MikTex, it says 'MikTex 2.5 is not supported any
 more. ...'

 Is that normal, or has something gone wrong?

 James


I think normal. MikTeX 2.5 has been dropped some time ago. Currently 2.7 is
stable, and 2.8 under development.

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Re: Document class not available

2009-03-16 Thread Hicham Mouline


lyx 1.6.1 Miktex 2.7.2845
When I open Help/Math, it says in the top in yellow
To export this document to PDF, PS, or DVI the LaTeX-packages eurosym, 
multirow, and was must be installed.

However, in Miktex package manager, I see that those 3 are already installed.

On clicking on the button to export to PDF, 

Lyx: couldn't export file
No information for exporting the format PDF (pdflatex)

Note that with my own .lyx, exporting to PDF works perfectly.

rds,


Re: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Nobody uses Git with LyX?

If I am alone, I will switch to RCS, which seems to be more naturally
supported by LyX.
I will regret Git because it is very quick and smart as a system.

Murat

2009/3/16 Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr:
 Hi,
 I have followed the advice I have received on the list and initiated
 the Git repository from outside of LyX and committed the version 0 of
 all my Latex files that are grouped in a directory tree. The base
 directory of this tree now contains a .git folder and git status
 tells me that everything is ready in this repository (BTW, all Git
 binaries are on my path).
 I have then done a reconfigure under Lyx but the version control
 functions under the File menu seem to continue to try to execute RCS
 commands (mainly the ci command with parameters, I have never been
 able to go further since I get of course an error message after this
 command), and not the Git ones.

 How can I tell to LyX that it should use Git instead?
 Must I reinstall Lyx of reconfigure should have been sufficient?

 Thank you in advance for your help,

 Murat




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Re: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Pavel Sanda
Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
 How can I tell to LyX that it should use Git instead?

you can't, lyx does not support git. some things can be
done through vc-command lfun though (1.6.2 thingie).
pavel


Re: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Manveru
2009/3/16 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org

 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
  How can I tell to LyX that it should use Git instead?

 you can't, lyx does not support git. some things can be
 done through vc-command lfun though (1.6.2 thingie).
 pavel


Is that a moment for new a feature request? Git popularity is growing VERY
FAST!

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Re: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Pavel Sanda
Manveru wrote:
 Is that a moment for new a feature request? Git popularity is growing VERY
 FAST!

there are unfortunately some things making git support harder in our framework,
most notably comit/push distinction and no local dirs like .svn etc, so
you are dependent either on external git status call or some non trivial
parsing/crawling through dir tree.

feel free to subscribe to http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2574 for 
staying
informed :)

pavel


Fwd: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Thanks for your help. I have tested Git after having read on the list
some message about its compatibility with LyX. I have maybe
misunderstood what I was reading. Unfortunately, I am not able to find
again this message (maybe it was from Abdelrazak Younès?).

Murat

2009/3/16 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org:
 Manveru wrote:
 Is that a moment for new a feature request? Git popularity is growing VERY
 FAST!

 there are unfortunately some things making git support harder in our 
 framework,
 most notably comit/push distinction and no local dirs like .svn etc, so
 you are dependent either on external git status call or some non trivial
 parsing/crawling through dir tree.

 feel free to subscribe to http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2574 for 
 staying
 informed :)

 pavel




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Re: Fwd: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

Thanks for your help. I have tested Git after having read on the list
some message about its compatibility with LyX. I have maybe
misunderstood what I was reading. Unfortunately, I am not able to find
again this message (maybe it was from Abdelrazak Younès?).


If it was me, this was on the devel list and about our source code 
versionning tool (I advocated switching to git from svn).


Coming back to svn support (or git for that matter), I don't see much 
benefit to current svn integration. Better to go to the command-line or 
to some graphical frontend (kdesvn for kde and ToitoiseSvn for Windows 
are quite good).


I use Qtcreator for C++ develoment for example but I don't use its 
support for git and svn, qgit and kdesvn offer a much better experience.


Things would start to be interesting when/if LyX is able to create a git 
repo per document and is also able to manage all child documents and 
referenced grapĥics :-)


Abdel.






Fwd: Fwd: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Thanks for this clarification. I have probably misunderstood your
post... Anyway, it has given me the occasion of playing with Git and I
am quite sold. I do not mind to work with it from outside, through the
command-line. I will probably write some PowerPro scripts to
automatize things for me. If I ever do, I would be happy to share them
with the list.

Murat

2009/3/16 Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org:
 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

 Thanks for your help. I have tested Git after having read on the list
 some message about its compatibility with LyX. I have maybe
 misunderstood what I was reading. Unfortunately, I am not able to find
 again this message (maybe it was from Abdelrazak Younès?).

 If it was me, this was on the devel list and about our source code
 versionning tool (I advocated switching to git from svn).

 Coming back to svn support (or git for that matter), I don't see much
 benefit to current svn integration. Better to go to the command-line or to
 some graphical frontend (kdesvn for kde and ToitoiseSvn for Windows are
 quite good).

 I use Qtcreator for C++ develoment for example but I don't use its support
 for git and svn, qgit and kdesvn offer a much better experience.

 Things would start to be interesting when/if LyX is able to create a git
 repo per document and is also able to manage all child documents and
 referenced grapĥics :-)

 Abdel.







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*** NEW UNIVERSITY, NEW ADDRESS ! ***

Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
13236 Marseille cedex 02

Bureau 320
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

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Re: Fwd: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
To complete my previous post, I have found this nice Windows interface for Git:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/gitextensions/

I have not time to play with it yet but it looks quite promising.
Especially to integrate Git operations in the Explorer's contextual
menu.

Murat

2009/3/16 Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr:
 Thanks for this clarification. I have probably misunderstood your
 post... Anyway, it has given me the occasion of playing with Git and I
 am quite sold. I do not mind to work with it from outside, through the
 command-line. I will probably write some PowerPro scripts to
 automatize things for me. If I ever do, I would be happy to share them
 with the list.

 Murat

 2009/3/16 Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org:
 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

 Thanks for your help. I have tested Git after having read on the list
 some message about its compatibility with LyX. I have maybe
 misunderstood what I was reading. Unfortunately, I am not able to find
 again this message (maybe it was from Abdelrazak Younès?).

 If it was me, this was on the devel list and about our source code
 versionning tool (I advocated switching to git from svn).

 Coming back to svn support (or git for that matter), I don't see much
 benefit to current svn integration. Better to go to the command-line or to
 some graphical frontend (kdesvn for kde and ToitoiseSvn for Windows are
 quite good).

 I use Qtcreator for C++ develoment for example but I don't use its support
 for git and svn, qgit and kdesvn offer a much better experience.

 Things would start to be interesting when/if LyX is able to create a git
 repo per document and is also able to manage all child documents and
 referenced grapĥics :-)

 Abdel.







 --
 *** NEW UNIVERSITY, NEW ADDRESS ! ***

 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 Université Paul Cézanne (Aix-Marseille 3)
 GREQAM (UMR CNRS 6579)
 Centre de la Vieille Charité
 2, rue de la Charité
 13236 Marseille cedex 02

 Bureau 320
 Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 27 (standard)
 Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
 Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
 Fax : +33 4 91 90 02 27

 e-mail: murat.yildizo...@univ-cezanne.fr
 www : http://www.vcharite.univ-mrs.fr/PP/yildi/index.html
 http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu
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Centre de la Vieille Charité
2, rue de la Charité
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Bureau 320
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Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 70 (secrétariat)
Tel : +33 4 91 14 07 47 (bureau)
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Re: [Vimoutliner] Create ODF documents without OpenOffice.org

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 16 March 2009 10:57:12 am Lucas González wrote:
 http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2009031600335OSDTSW

 distraction-free writing environment :-)

 Lucas

Hi Lucas,

My heart skipped a beat upon hearing about reStructuredText Markup language. I 
was looking for something like that as I wrote my book in VO. But deeper 
examination of reStructuredText Markup language revealed two problems -- one 
an inconvenience and one a showstopper.

The inconvenience is table construction -- it's very impractical for a guy 
like me who can put several paragraphs within a single cell. But heck, that 
can be worked around.

The showstopper is that there's absolutely no provision for custom styles, at 
least from what I could see in the quickstart, the quick reference, and the 
specification. Writing a long document without custom styles is a Keystone 
Kops experience.

I spoze one could do what I did on my last book, and if you have a custom 
style called story, you could delineate it with story and /story within 
VimOutliner, and then in the resulting document manually convert those to the 
story paragraph style of your creation. But it sure would have been nice to 
be able to have the converter convert the style, so that all you'd need to do 
on the other end is create the story style. Or better yet, the converter 
could create a dummy story style that looks just like body text, and then you 
can modify that style and watch all text to which it's applied change 
appearance.

I could go on and on and on about various wordprocessors claiming to be 
professional, but having very rudimentary facility for styles, especially on 
converted documents. This is one of the reasons I use LyX -- styles are built 
into the LyX project's basic charter, and also they're built into LaTeX, the 
language to which LyX converts its native format.

This makes me think. Perhaps there could be an ultra-simple way to designate 
the beginning and end of a paragraph or character style (they'd have to be 
different) within VimOutliner, and then have the converter program create 
dummy styles in a layout file (LyX), or dummy styles in a CSS file (HTML). If 
one uses only styles to convey formatting changes, and I really believe 
that's the only way formatting changes SHOULD be conveyed in a long document, 
that would be sufficient to quickly turn a VO outline into a book. Paragraph 
styles would be unnecessary for headlines because they're implied by their 
depth. But character styles would be valuable within headlines, and both 
character and paragraph styles would be ultra-convernient within body text.

Trouble is, I'm the only person I know who uses both VimOutliner and LyX, and 
although I know many who author HTML with VimOutliner, I'm not nearly good 
enough at CSS to implement the HTML conversion program.

I'm copying the LyX mailing list to let them know how much I appreciate their 
facilitation of styles-based documents.

Thanks

SteveT

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some beamer questions

2009-03-16 Thread s nedunuri
Just started using beamer. I think its great. I was unable to find a beamer 
manual [entry] for lyx but i've been able to figure out most of what i need 
from looking at the examples. Couple of qs:

1. When i create a block, how do i get the block contents to actually appear 
inside the block. So what i currently have is:
Block (ERT[{title}] body): [[ {some heading} ]]
block contents

where [[ and ]] indicate a red ERT box. There seems to be some way of 
letting lyx know that the contents belong inside the blue box that appears 
on the output (b/c i see it done in the examples) but i cant figure it out

2. Suppose you have a program listing or a math array, and you want to 
animate the replacement of certain sections of the code or the introduction 
of certain pieces of code, how might that be done. I see a reference to 
overlays but the examples i looked at didn't contain them 





Re: some beamer questions

2009-03-16 Thread Siegfried Meunier-Guttin-Cluzel

There is an excellent manual in the latex distribution
file beameruserguide.pdf
LyX usage is described in this manual.

Siegfried


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.6.2 is released

2009-03-16 Thread Manveru
2009/3/15 Jürgen Spitzmüller juer...@spitzmueller.org

 Public release of LyX version 1.6.2
 ===

 [...]

 Prebuilt binaries (rpms for Linux distributions, Mac OS X and Windows
 installers) should soon be available at
http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.2/

 [...]


Who is able to tell me, where are the missing Windows installers for 1.6.2.
Has anyone compiled classic LyX installer?

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Using branches in preamble?

2009-03-16 Thread Andreas Neustifter

Hi,

I'm writing a beamer presentation in LyX and have 2 branches, one for  
handout and one for presentation.


Is it possible to have TeX-Code in the preamble based on the activated  
branches?


Grettings, Andi

PS: Great work, I love LyX.

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Re: 1.6.2 alt installer on Windows and MikTex

2009-03-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr

James Mansion schrieb:

I've just run Lyx-162-4-18-AltInstaller-Complete.exe.  I had a 1.5.3 
install that I uninstalled first.


When it comes to update MikTex, it says 'MikTex 2.5 is not supported any 
more. ...'


This is correct. You also need to uninstall MiKTeX (_completely_!) when the version is older than 
MiKTeX 2.6. After that run the LyX-162-4-18-AltInstaller-Complete.exe again.

The current version of MiKTeX is 2.7 and only version 2.6 and 2.7 are supported 
by the MiKTeX developer.

regards Uwe


Re: Document class not available

2009-03-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Hicham Mouline schrieb:


However, in Miktex package manager, I see that those 3 are already installed.

On clicking on the button to export to PDF, 


Lyx: couldn't export file
No information for exporting the format PDF (pdflatex)


Sounds like a problem with you installation. The best would be to reinstall LyX while you have an 
open Internet connection.



Note that with my own .lyx, exporting to PDF works perfectly.


This is strange because due to the problem you reported with Math.lyx, you shouldn't be able to 
compile documents in general correctly.


regards Uwe


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.6.2 is released

2009-03-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Manveru schrieb:


Who is able to tell me, where are the missing Windows installers for 1.6.2.
Has anyone compiled classic LyX installer?


Not yet, but my installer is already available at ftp.lyx.org and from here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

regards Uwe


Re: Using branches in preamble? [RESOLVED]

2009-03-16 Thread Andreas Neustifter

Hi again,

On 16.03.2009, at 19:21, Andreas Neustifter wrote:

I'm writing a beamer presentation in LyX and have 2 branches, one  
for handout and one for presentation.
Is it possible to have TeX-Code in the preamble based on the  
activated branches?


Turns out, thats not necessary. I have pictures that are overlayed  
with the Only-Environment, there I used the overlay specfication +| 
handout:0|article:0 for the first N-1 pictures and +|handout:1| 
article:1 for the N-th picture. No branches necessary in the document.


Also I used the \modehandout{ ... } directive in the preamble so  
the code is activated during printing the handout only.


I can now switch between presentation and layout simply by setting  
handout in the custom class options in the document settings.


Thanks, Grettings, Andi




PS: Great work, I love LyX.

PS: Think I love it even more right now.

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Re: Some Beamer Questions

2009-03-16 Thread Jason Waskiewicz


1. When i create a block, how do i get the block contents to actually appear 
inside the block. So what i currently have is:

Block (ERT[{title}] body): [[ {some heading} ]]
block contents
  

The way I do it is:
Block (ERT[(title} body): {Heading inside curly braces}
Point 1
Point 2

I don't remember the name for it, but I place the points under the Block 
with the arrow on the menubar: the same arrow used in an itemized list 
to make a subpoint under a main point. (A long red bar appears in front 
of everything.)


I'm afraid I know nothing about your second question, but if you find 
out the answer, I'll benefit!


--Jason Waskiewicz
 Bowman County Schools


Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Piero Faustini
Johannes Asal johannes.a...@... writes:

 Thanks for your answer. I was checking the nabble forum so I didn't read your
 posts. I think the External material solution is not optimal, as it forces 
you
 to interrupt your creative process. You need to switch to another application
 and create a lilypond file, then go back to lyx and import it. Of course you
 could prepare all the files before starting to write the text, but who knows
 exactly what kind of musical examples he will need in his book?

Sure. If creative process continuity is your need, that's pretty important. 
But I thought that creating a musical example IS a different task than write 
some text. If you just need to put in the FLOW of text some musical symbols to 
create - for example - a simple rhythm pattern or some harmony analysis, check 
the package Harmony: but not music at all.

If you think you can stand import you can do like this:
1. have a plain and blank .ly file always ready in the document directory. 
Let's call it blank.ly
2. Put it in the document with Insert etc. etc.
3. Rightclick on it and Select EDIT EXTERNALLY (MUCH BETTER if you have a 
proper tool already working, as I have, for example Lilypondtool + jEdit)
4. Edit file but save it with a new name, and just quit external editor
5. click on the example box and just select the new .ly file you just created 
(otherwise it would still point to blank.ly)
6. If preview is ON, you now should see the example in the proper place, and 
edit externally whenever you need it.

If you have hundreds of VERY tiny examples (such a pair of chords or a simple 
melody) the process could be annoying, and you were right.
 But if your examples are just small (or rather medium-size), and not 
hundreds, this method have a great advantage: you can see a preview (in your 
default editor) AND a preview in LyX (otherwise, I think, you CAN'T have, and 
you should rely on your unassisted .ly writing skills - I couldn't do so!!!)

 I'm not really sure, what would be the best solution. But what I'm sure about 
is
 that there should be a solution. Not even Finale or Sibelius provide real
 support for writing musicological documents. Considering the price you have 

Finale? Sibelius? never heard oh that, should be some exotic programs ;)

Lilypond-book IS the solution for your needs, but we LyX-Lilypond users need to 
tweak harder to have it work without problems.
But, I repeat, even when we find a way to use lilypond-book, I would continue 
to use in many case the IMPORT solution - By the way, it IS NOT a import: you 
do not import anything at all, you just USE lilypond files. Importing would be 
bad, using is great: you could manually add some stuff like a copyright line 
in every .ly file without compiling, and touch NOTHING in your LyX doc, and 
everything would work perfect at next LyX compiling.
It's just a matter of keep .ly code in external files.

Hope to have helped you.
These days I'm very busy, but in a pair of weeks I'm going to work on the 
lilypond-book thing. I quote you there should be a solution.
Bye
Piero






Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Johnson
I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.

Aside from never use a footnote in a parbox, what lesson is to be learned??

pj

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Re: Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

2009-03-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Paul Johnson schrieb:


I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.


This behaviour is described in detail in LyX's EmbeddedObjects manual that you 
find in LyX's Help menu.

regards Uwe


Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Doug Laidlaw
I run Lyx, Lilypond and Frescobaldi.  I still use Noteedit to write Lilypond 
files, although development has stopped.  I have no reason to import Lilypond 
into Lyx, but under Converters I did notice that there are commands for 
Noteedit and Lilypond files.

Frescobaldi no longer depends on Kate, as its predecessor did.  It is 
basically an editor and processor for .ly files.  Importing probably needs 
something different.  Since the usable output from Lilypond is PostScript or 
PDF, perhaps the OP needs to look at importing those.

Doug.

On Tuesday 17 March 2009 10:09:25 am Piero Faustini wrote:
 Johannes Asal johannes.a...@... writes:
  Thanks for your answer. I was checking the nabble forum so I didn't read
  your posts. I think the External material solution is not optimal, as it
  forces

 you

  to interrupt your creative process. You need to switch to another
  application and create a lilypond file, then go back to lyx and import
  it. Of course you could prepare all the files before starting to write
  the text, but who knows exactly what kind of musical examples he will
  need in his book?

 Sure. If creative process continuity is your need, that's pretty
 important. But I thought that creating a musical example IS a different
 task than write some text. If you just need to put in the FLOW of text some
 musical symbols to create - for example - a simple rhythm pattern or some
 harmony analysis, check the package Harmony: but not music at all.

 If you think you can stand import you can do like this:
 1. have a plain and blank .ly file always ready in the document directory.
 Let's call it blank.ly
 2. Put it in the document with Insert etc. etc.
 3. Rightclick on it and Select EDIT EXTERNALLY (MUCH BETTER if you have a
 proper tool already working, as I have, for example Lilypondtool + jEdit)
 4. Edit file but save it with a new name, and just quit external editor
 5. click on the example box and just select the new .ly file you just
 created (otherwise it would still point to blank.ly)
 6. If preview is ON, you now should see the example in the proper place,
 and edit externally whenever you need it.

 If you have hundreds of VERY tiny examples (such a pair of chords or a
 simple melody) the process could be annoying, and you were right.
  But if your examples are just small (or rather medium-size), and not
 hundreds, this method have a great advantage: you can see a preview (in
 your default editor) AND a preview in LyX (otherwise, I think, you CAN'T
 have, and you should rely on your unassisted .ly writing skills - I
 couldn't do so!!!)

  I'm not really sure, what would be the best solution. But what I'm sure
  about

 is

  that there should be a solution. Not even Finale or Sibelius provide real
  support for writing musicological documents. Considering the price you
  have

 Finale? Sibelius? never heard oh that, should be some exotic programs ;)

 Lilypond-book IS the solution for your needs, but we LyX-Lilypond users
 need to tweak harder to have it work without problems.
 But, I repeat, even when we find a way to use lilypond-book, I would
 continue to use in many case the IMPORT solution - By the way, it IS NOT a
 import: you do not import anything at all, you just USE lilypond files.
 Importing would be bad, using is great: you could manually add some stuff
 like a copyright line in every .ly file without compiling, and touch
 NOTHING in your LyX doc, and everything would work perfect at next LyX
 compiling.
 It's just a matter of keep .ly code in external files.

 Hope to have helped you.
 These days I'm very busy, but in a pair of weeks I'm going to work on the
 lilypond-book thing. I quote you there should be a solution.
 Bye
 Piero




1.6.2 alt installer on Windows and MikTex

2009-03-16 Thread James Mansion
I've just run Lyx-162-4-18-AltInstaller-Complete.exe.  I had a 1.5.3 
install that I uninstalled first.


When it comes to update MikTex, it says 'MikTex 2.5 is not supported any 
more. ...'


Is that normal, or has something gone wrong?

James



Re: Linguistics Module: Changing the "example" spacing

2009-03-16 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
David Terhart wrote:
> In the "example" environment (which comes from covington.sty, I think),
> there is pretty much line space between the examle title and what we put
> in the example. Here's some sample LyX code:
>
> \begin{example}
>   \label{exa:popish kiwor}popish kiwor%
>   \begin{linggloss}
>   po-pi-sh kiwor
>   one-CLF:long\ snake
>   \glt eine Schlange
>   \end{linggloss}
>   DC-081114L
> \end{example}

I never thought of using example/glosses that way. As Richard already said, 
it's the way glosses are defined by the package covington. There are two 
solutions:

1.) If you have only a few such example glosses, insert at the end of the 
first line \vspace{-\baselineskip} in TeX mode.

2.) To globally change the spacing, insert to preamble:

\def\gll{%
\begin{flushleft}
\def\baselinestretch{1}%
\...@selfnt%
\vskip-\baselineskip%
\bgroup
\catcode`\^^M=12
\twosent
}

However, this might make glosses in other contexts look bad.

Jürgen


Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Johannes Asal
Piero Faustini  writes:

> 
> I understand what are your needs, because almost identical as mine.
> I had to discard lilypond-book because it was too difficoult to integrate 
> with 
> LyX. I must admit I didn't try too much: but I use a lot of multiple-pass 
> packages such BibLaTeX (a sort of enhanced bibTeX), indexes and so on, so I 
> think it would be difficuolt to have everything work without problems, and 
> almost impossible to have a working instant preview of the whole doc.
>  It seems that a theory book (as a musicological research on librettoes) 
> doesn't need a lot of long music examples, so the advantages of lilypond-book 
> (basically: ability to draw music snipetts in different environments) are not 
> so important.
> This is what I use: I have a directory of musical examples in .ly files, 
> which 
> have a simple code that have all the white space cut. (can't find the thread 
> where this was discussed, I will post it later).
> I use Insert - File - External material - Lilypond file. It can give instant 
> preview (and allows direct link to the predefined Lilypond editor, if you 
> find 
> some error) so is ALMOST as having the code directly in the LyX doc.
> If you need multiple lines examples, this can be hard to achieve if you need 
> lines to cross between pages, but I think a solution can be found. Stay tuned.
> Hope it was clear
> 
> 

Thanks for your answer. I was checking the nabble forum so I didn't read your
posts. I think the External material solution is not optimal, as it forces you
to interrupt your creative process. You need to switch to another application
and create a lilypond file, then go back to lyx and import it. Of course you
could prepare all the files before starting to write the text, but who knows
exactly what kind of musical examples he will need in his book?

I'm not really sure, what would be the best solution. But what I'm sure about is
that there should be a solution. Not even Finale or Sibelius provide real
support for writing musicological documents. Considering the price you have to
pay for them, that's a real shame.



Re: Weird problem with bibtex from LyX (but not from Latex)

2009-03-16 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-15, Stefano Franchi wrote:

> 3. The preamble of the master document calls the \bibliography commands
>with 4 .bib files

As the preamble is "free LaTeX source" (like ERT), lyx is not aware of
the \bibliography call there.

Where are your .bib files?

> launching lyx from console and looking at the output reveals that the
> problem is that bibtex cannot find the bib files:

> However, If I export to the whole manuscript to latex (plain) and
> compile from the command line everything works fine, all the bib
> references are found, etcetera.

LyX uses a temporary directory. This might be the cause. You can try to
disable the temporary directory (I don't know how exactly but guess
that giving an empty path for the TempDir in Tools>settings helps).

> 2. I tried creating soft links to the actual files in the local
>directory and substituting just file names for absolute paths.  No
>difference.

I would try to put (or link) the *.bib files into a directory in the
BIBINPUTS path, so it is found by LaTeX/BibTeX from everywhere.

.. and substituting just file names for absolute paths.


Günter



Re: Document class not available

2009-03-16 Thread Hicham Mouline
>Hicham Mouline schrieb:
>> I did that, while connected, however the Tools/Reconfigure took 10s only.
>> After restarting Lyx (this time starting Lyx was much faster) however, 
>> the exact same error happened.
>Then there is something wrong with your LaTeX installation. Are you using 
>Windows and MiKTeX?
Yes

If so what version >of MiKTeX and what Windows?
WinXPSP3, Miktex 2.7

>Please also try to update MiKTeX using its Update program and then redo then 
>again reconfigure LyX.
will do, thanks.

regards,


Re: 1.6.2 alt installer on Windows and MikTex

2009-03-16 Thread Manveru
2009/3/16 James Mansion 

> I've just run Lyx-162-4-18-AltInstaller-Complete.exe.  I had a 1.5.3
> install that I uninstalled first.
>
> When it comes to update MikTex, it says 'MikTex 2.5 is not supported any
> more. ...'
>
> Is that normal, or has something gone wrong?
>
> James
>
>
I think normal. MikTeX 2.5 has been dropped some time ago. Currently 2.7 is
stable, and 2.8 under development.

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Re: Document class not available

2009-03-16 Thread Hicham Mouline
>
>
lyx 1.6.1 Miktex 2.7.2845
When I open Help/Math, it says in the top in yellow
To export this document to PDF, PS, or DVI the LaTeX-packages eurosym, 
multirow, and was must be installed.

However, in Miktex package manager, I see that those 3 are already installed.

On clicking on the button to export to PDF, 

Lyx: couldn't export file
No information for exporting the format PDF (pdflatex)

Note that with my own .lyx, exporting to PDF works perfectly.

rds,


Re: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Nobody uses Git with LyX?

If I am alone, I will switch to RCS, which seems to be more naturally
supported by LyX.
I will regret Git because it is very quick and smart as a system.

Murat

2009/3/16 Murat Yildizoglu :
> Hi,
> I have followed the advice I have received on the list and initiated
> the Git repository from outside of LyX and committed the version 0 of
> all my Latex files that are grouped in a directory tree. The base
> directory of this tree now contains a .git folder and "git status"
> tells me that everything is ready in this repository (BTW, all Git
> binaries are on my path).
> I have then done a reconfigure under Lyx but the version control
> functions under the File menu seem to continue to try to execute RCS
> commands (mainly the ci command with parameters, I have never been
> able to go further since I get of course an error message after this
> command), and not the Git ones.
>
> How can I tell to LyX that it should use Git instead?
> Must I reinstall Lyx of reconfigure should have been sufficient?
>
> Thank you in advance for your help,
>
> Murat
>



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Re: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Pavel Sanda
Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
> How can I tell to LyX that it should use Git instead?

you can't, lyx does not support git. some things can be
done through vc-command lfun though (1.6.2 thingie).
pavel


Re: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Manveru
2009/3/16 Pavel Sanda 

> Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
> > How can I tell to LyX that it should use Git instead?
>
> you can't, lyx does not support git. some things can be
> done through vc-command lfun though (1.6.2 thingie).
> pavel
>

Is that a moment for new a feature request? Git popularity is growing VERY
FAST!

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Re: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Pavel Sanda
Manveru wrote:
> Is that a moment for new a feature request? Git popularity is growing VERY
> FAST!

there are unfortunately some things making git support harder in our framework,
most notably comit/push distinction and no local dirs like ".svn" etc, so
you are dependent either on external git status call or some non trivial
parsing/crawling through dir tree.

feel free to subscribe to http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2574 for 
staying
informed :)

pavel


Fwd: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Thanks for your help. I have tested Git after having read on the list
some message about its compatibility with LyX. I have maybe
misunderstood what I was reading. Unfortunately, I am not able to find
again this message (maybe it was from Abdelrazak Younès?).

Murat

2009/3/16 Pavel Sanda :
> Manveru wrote:
>> Is that a moment for new a feature request? Git popularity is growing VERY
>> FAST!
>
> there are unfortunately some things making git support harder in our 
> framework,
> most notably comit/push distinction and no local dirs like ".svn" etc, so
> you are dependent either on external git status call or some non trivial
> parsing/crawling through dir tree.
>
> feel free to subscribe to http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2574 for 
> staying
> informed :)
>
> pavel
>



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Re: Fwd: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

Thanks for your help. I have tested Git after having read on the list
some message about its compatibility with LyX. I have maybe
misunderstood what I was reading. Unfortunately, I am not able to find
again this message (maybe it was from Abdelrazak Younès?).


If it was me, this was on the devel list and about our source code 
versionning tool (I advocated switching to git from svn).


Coming back to svn support (or git for that matter), I don't see much 
benefit to current svn integration. Better to go to the command-line or 
to some graphical frontend (kdesvn for kde and ToitoiseSvn for Windows 
are quite good).


I use Qtcreator for C++ develoment for example but I don't use its 
support for git and svn, qgit and kdesvn offer a much better experience.


Things would start to be interesting when/if LyX is able to create a git 
repo per document and is also able to manage all child documents and 
referenced grapĥics :-)


Abdel.






Fwd: Fwd: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Thanks for this clarification. I have probably misunderstood your
post... Anyway, it has given me the occasion of playing with Git and I
am quite sold. I do not mind to work with it from outside, through the
command-line. I will probably write some PowerPro scripts to
automatize things for me. If I ever do, I would be happy to share them
with the list.

Murat

2009/3/16 Abdelrazak Younes :
> Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your help. I have tested Git after having read on the list
>> some message about its compatibility with LyX. I have maybe
>> misunderstood what I was reading. Unfortunately, I am not able to find
>> again this message (maybe it was from Abdelrazak Younès?).
>
> If it was me, this was on the devel list and about our source code
> versionning tool (I advocated switching to git from svn).
>
> Coming back to svn support (or git for that matter), I don't see much
> benefit to current svn integration. Better to go to the command-line or to
> some graphical frontend (kdesvn for kde and ToitoiseSvn for Windows are
> quite good).
>
> I use Qtcreator for C++ develoment for example but I don't use its support
> for git and svn, qgit and kdesvn offer a much better experience.
>
> Things would start to be interesting when/if LyX is able to create a git
> repo per document and is also able to manage all child documents and
> referenced grapĥics :-)
>
> Abdel.
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Fwd: Lyx and Git under Windows XP - follow up

2009-03-16 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
To complete my previous post, I have found this nice Windows interface for Git:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/gitextensions/

I have not time to play with it yet but it looks quite promising.
Especially to integrate Git operations in the Explorer's contextual
menu.

Murat

2009/3/16 Murat Yildizoglu :
> Thanks for this clarification. I have probably misunderstood your
> post... Anyway, it has given me the occasion of playing with Git and I
> am quite sold. I do not mind to work with it from outside, through the
> command-line. I will probably write some PowerPro scripts to
> automatize things for me. If I ever do, I would be happy to share them
> with the list.
>
> Murat
>
> 2009/3/16 Abdelrazak Younes :
>> Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help. I have tested Git after having read on the list
>>> some message about its compatibility with LyX. I have maybe
>>> misunderstood what I was reading. Unfortunately, I am not able to find
>>> again this message (maybe it was from Abdelrazak Younès?).
>>
>> If it was me, this was on the devel list and about our source code
>> versionning tool (I advocated switching to git from svn).
>>
>> Coming back to svn support (or git for that matter), I don't see much
>> benefit to current svn integration. Better to go to the command-line or to
>> some graphical frontend (kdesvn for kde and ToitoiseSvn for Windows are
>> quite good).
>>
>> I use Qtcreator for C++ develoment for example but I don't use its support
>> for git and svn, qgit and kdesvn offer a much better experience.
>>
>> Things would start to be interesting when/if LyX is able to create a git
>> repo per document and is also able to manage all child documents and
>> referenced grapĥics :-)
>>
>> Abdel.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Vimoutliner] Create ODF documents without OpenOffice.org

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 16 March 2009 10:57:12 am Lucas González wrote:
> http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2009031600335OSDTSW
>
> "distraction-free writing environment" :-)
>
> Lucas

Hi Lucas,

My heart skipped a beat upon hearing about reStructuredText Markup language. I 
was looking for something like that as I wrote my book in VO. But deeper 
examination of reStructuredText Markup language revealed two problems -- one 
an inconvenience and one a showstopper.

The inconvenience is table construction -- it's very impractical for a guy 
like me who can put several paragraphs within a single cell. But heck, that 
can be worked around.

The showstopper is that there's absolutely no provision for custom styles, at 
least from what I could see in the quickstart, the quick reference, and the 
specification. Writing a long document without custom styles is a Keystone 
Kops experience.

I spoze one could do what I did on my last book, and if you have a custom 
style called "story", you could delineate it with  and  within 
VimOutliner, and then in the resulting document manually convert those to the 
story paragraph style of your creation. But it sure would have been nice to 
be able to have the converter convert the style, so that all you'd need to do 
on the other end is create the story style. Or better yet, the converter 
could create a dummy story style that looks just like body text, and then you 
can modify that style and watch all text to which it's applied change 
appearance.

I could go on and on and on about various wordprocessors claiming to be 
professional, but having very rudimentary facility for styles, especially on 
converted documents. This is one of the reasons I use LyX -- styles are built 
into the LyX project's basic charter, and also they're built into LaTeX, the 
language to which LyX converts its native format.

This makes me think. Perhaps there could be an ultra-simple way to designate 
the beginning and end of a paragraph or character style (they'd have to be 
different) within VimOutliner, and then have the converter program create 
dummy styles in a layout file (LyX), or dummy styles in a CSS file (HTML). If 
one uses only styles to convey formatting changes, and I really believe 
that's the only way formatting changes SHOULD be conveyed in a long document, 
that would be sufficient to quickly turn a VO outline into a book. Paragraph 
styles would be unnecessary for headlines because they're implied by their 
depth. But character styles would be valuable within headlines, and both 
character and paragraph styles would be ultra-convernient within body text.

Trouble is, I'm the only person I know who uses both VimOutliner and LyX, and 
although I know many who author HTML with VimOutliner, I'm not nearly good 
enough at CSS to implement the HTML conversion program.

I'm copying the LyX mailing list to let them know how much I appreciate their 
facilitation of styles-based documents.

Thanks

SteveT

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some beamer questions

2009-03-16 Thread s nedunuri
Just started using beamer. I think its great. I was unable to find a beamer 
manual [entry] for lyx but i've been able to figure out most of what i need 
from looking at the examples. Couple of qs:

1. When i create a block, how do i get the block contents to actually appear 
inside the block. So what i currently have is:
Block (ERT[{title}] body): [[ {some heading} ]]


where [[ and ]] indicate a red ERT box. There seems to be some way of 
letting lyx know that the contents belong inside the blue box that appears 
on the output (b/c i see it done in the examples) but i cant figure it out

2. Suppose you have a program listing or a math array, and you want to 
animate the replacement of certain sections of the code or the introduction 
of certain pieces of code, how might that be done. I see a reference to 
overlays but the examples i looked at didn't contain them 





Re: some beamer questions

2009-03-16 Thread Siegfried Meunier-Guttin-Cluzel

There is an excellent manual in the latex distribution
file beameruserguide.pdf
LyX usage is described in this manual.

Siegfried


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.6.2 is released

2009-03-16 Thread Manveru
2009/3/15 Jürgen Spitzmüller 

> Public release of LyX version 1.6.2
> ===
>
> [...]
>
> Prebuilt binaries (rpms for Linux distributions, Mac OS X and Windows
> installers) should soon be available at
>http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.2/
>
> [...]


Who is able to tell me, where are the missing Windows installers for 1.6.2.
Has anyone compiled classic LyX installer?

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Using branches in preamble?

2009-03-16 Thread Andreas Neustifter

Hi,

I'm writing a beamer presentation in LyX and have 2 branches, one for  
handout and one for presentation.


Is it possible to have TeX-Code in the preamble based on the activated  
branches?


Grettings, Andi

PS: Great work, I love LyX.

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Re: 1.6.2 alt installer on Windows and MikTex

2009-03-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr

James Mansion schrieb:

I've just run Lyx-162-4-18-AltInstaller-Complete.exe.  I had a 1.5.3 
install that I uninstalled first.


When it comes to update MikTex, it says 'MikTex 2.5 is not supported any 
more. ...'


This is correct. You also need to uninstall MiKTeX (_completely_!) when the version is older than 
MiKTeX 2.6. After that run the LyX-162-4-18-AltInstaller-Complete.exe again.

The current version of MiKTeX is 2.7 and only version 2.6 and 2.7 are supported 
by the MiKTeX developer.

regards Uwe


Re: Document class not available

2009-03-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Hicham Mouline schrieb:


However, in Miktex package manager, I see that those 3 are already installed.

On clicking on the button to export to PDF, 


Lyx: couldn't export file
No information for exporting the format PDF (pdflatex)


Sounds like a problem with you installation. The best would be to reinstall LyX while you have an 
open Internet connection.



Note that with my own .lyx, exporting to PDF works perfectly.


This is strange because due to the problem you reported with Math.lyx, you shouldn't be able to 
compile documents in general correctly.


regards Uwe


Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.6.2 is released

2009-03-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Manveru schrieb:


Who is able to tell me, where are the missing Windows installers for 1.6.2.
Has anyone compiled classic LyX installer?


Not yet, but my installer is already available at ftp.lyx.org and from here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

regards Uwe


Re: Using branches in preamble? [RESOLVED]

2009-03-16 Thread Andreas Neustifter

Hi again,

On 16.03.2009, at 19:21, Andreas Neustifter wrote:

I'm writing a beamer presentation in LyX and have 2 branches, one  
for handout and one for presentation.
Is it possible to have TeX-Code in the preamble based on the  
activated branches?


Turns out, thats not necessary. I have pictures that are overlayed  
with the Only-Environment, there I used the overlay specfication "<+| 
handout:0|article:0>" for the first N-1 pictures and "<+|handout:1| 
article:1>" for the N-th picture. No branches necessary in the document.


Also I used the "\mode{ ... }" directive in the preamble so  
the code is activated during printing the handout only.


I can now switch between presentation and layout simply by setting  
"handout" in the custom class options in the document settings.


Thanks, Grettings, Andi




PS: Great work, I love LyX.

PS: Think I love it even more right now.

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Re: Some Beamer Questions

2009-03-16 Thread Jason Waskiewicz


1. When i create a block, how do i get the block contents to actually appear 
inside the block. So what i currently have is:

Block (ERT[{title}] body): [[ {some heading} ]]

  

The way I do it is:
Block (ERT[(title} body): {Heading inside curly braces}
Point 1
Point 2

I don't remember the name for it, but I place the points under the Block 
with the arrow on the menubar: the same arrow used in an itemized list 
to make a subpoint under a main point. (A long red bar appears in front 
of everything.)


I'm afraid I know nothing about your second question, but if you find 
out the answer, I'll benefit!


--Jason Waskiewicz
 Bowman County Schools


Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Piero Faustini
Johannes Asal  writes:

> Thanks for your answer. I was checking the nabble forum so I didn't read your
> posts. I think the External material solution is not optimal, as it forces 
you
> to interrupt your creative process. You need to switch to another application
> and create a lilypond file, then go back to lyx and import it. Of course you
> could prepare all the files before starting to write the text, but who knows
> exactly what kind of musical examples he will need in his book?

Sure. If "creative process" continuity is your need, that's pretty important. 
But I thought that creating a musical example IS a different task than write 
some text. If you just need to put in the FLOW of text some musical symbols to 
create - for example - a simple rhythm pattern or some harmony analysis, check 
the package Harmony: but not "music" at all.

If you think you can stand "import" you can do like this:
1. have a plain and blank .ly file always ready in the document directory. 
Let's call it "blank.ly"
2. Put it in the document with Insert etc. etc.
3. Rightclick on it and Select EDIT EXTERNALLY (MUCH BETTER if you have a 
proper tool already working, as I have, for example Lilypondtool + jEdit)
4. Edit file but save it with a new name, and just quit external editor
5. click on the example box and just select the new .ly file you just created 
(otherwise it would still point to "blank.ly")
6. If preview is ON, you now should see the example in the proper place, and 
edit "externally" whenever you need it.

If you have hundreds of VERY tiny examples (such a pair of chords or a simple 
melody) the process could be annoying, and you were right.
 But if your examples are just "small" (or rather medium-size), and not 
hundreds, this method have a great advantage: you can see a preview (in your 
default editor) AND a preview in LyX (otherwise, I think, you CAN'T have, and 
you should rely on your unassisted .ly writing skills - I couldn't do so!!!)

> I'm not really sure, what would be the best solution. But what I'm sure about 
is
> that there should be a solution. Not even Finale or Sibelius provide real
> support for writing musicological documents. Considering the price you have 

Finale? Sibelius? never heard oh that, should be some exotic programs ;)

Lilypond-book IS the solution for your needs, but we LyX-Lilypond users need to 
tweak harder to have it work without problems.
But, I repeat, even when we find a way to use lilypond-book, I would continue 
to use in many case the IMPORT solution - By the way, it IS NOT a import: you 
do not import anything at all, you just USE lilypond files. Importing would be 
bad, using is great: you could manually add some stuff like a "copyright" line 
in every .ly file without compiling, and touch NOTHING in your LyX doc, and 
everything would work perfect at next LyX compiling.
It's just a matter of keep .ly code in external files.

Hope to have helped you.
These days I'm very busy, but in a pair of weeks I'm going to work on the 
lilypond-book thing. I quote you "there should be a solution".
Bye
Piero






Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Johnson
I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.

Aside from "never use a footnote in a parbox", what lesson is to be learned??

pj

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Re: Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

2009-03-16 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Paul Johnson schrieb:


I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.


This behaviour is described in detail in LyX's EmbeddedObjects manual that you 
find in LyX's Help menu.

regards Uwe


Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-16 Thread Doug Laidlaw
I run Lyx, Lilypond and Frescobaldi.  I still use Noteedit to write Lilypond 
files, although development has stopped.  I have no reason to import Lilypond 
into Lyx, but under "Converters" I did notice that there are commands for 
Noteedit and Lilypond files.

Frescobaldi no longer depends on Kate, as its predecessor did.  It is 
basically an editor and processor for .ly files.  Importing probably needs 
something different.  Since the usable output from Lilypond is PostScript or 
PDF, perhaps the OP needs to look at importing those.

Doug.

On Tuesday 17 March 2009 10:09:25 am Piero Faustini wrote:
> Johannes Asal  writes:
> > Thanks for your answer. I was checking the nabble forum so I didn't read
> > your posts. I think the External material solution is not optimal, as it
> > forces
>
> you
>
> > to interrupt your creative process. You need to switch to another
> > application and create a lilypond file, then go back to lyx and import
> > it. Of course you could prepare all the files before starting to write
> > the text, but who knows exactly what kind of musical examples he will
> > need in his book?
>
> Sure. If "creative process" continuity is your need, that's pretty
> important. But I thought that creating a musical example IS a different
> task than write some text. If you just need to put in the FLOW of text some
> musical symbols to create - for example - a simple rhythm pattern or some
> harmony analysis, check the package Harmony: but not "music" at all.
>
> If you think you can stand "import" you can do like this:
> 1. have a plain and blank .ly file always ready in the document directory.
> Let's call it "blank.ly"
> 2. Put it in the document with Insert etc. etc.
> 3. Rightclick on it and Select EDIT EXTERNALLY (MUCH BETTER if you have a
> proper tool already working, as I have, for example Lilypondtool + jEdit)
> 4. Edit file but save it with a new name, and just quit external editor
> 5. click on the example box and just select the new .ly file you just
> created (otherwise it would still point to "blank.ly")
> 6. If preview is ON, you now should see the example in the proper place,
> and edit "externally" whenever you need it.
>
> If you have hundreds of VERY tiny examples (such a pair of chords or a
> simple melody) the process could be annoying, and you were right.
>  But if your examples are just "small" (or rather medium-size), and not
> hundreds, this method have a great advantage: you can see a preview (in
> your default editor) AND a preview in LyX (otherwise, I think, you CAN'T
> have, and you should rely on your unassisted .ly writing skills - I
> couldn't do so!!!)
>
> > I'm not really sure, what would be the best solution. But what I'm sure
> > about
>
> is
>
> > that there should be a solution. Not even Finale or Sibelius provide real
> > support for writing musicological documents. Considering the price you
> > have
>
> Finale? Sibelius? never heard oh that, should be some exotic programs ;)
>
> Lilypond-book IS the solution for your needs, but we LyX-Lilypond users
> need to tweak harder to have it work without problems.
> But, I repeat, even when we find a way to use lilypond-book, I would
> continue to use in many case the IMPORT solution - By the way, it IS NOT a
> import: you do not import anything at all, you just USE lilypond files.
> Importing would be bad, using is great: you could manually add some stuff
> like a "copyright" line in every .ly file without compiling, and touch
> NOTHING in your LyX doc, and everything would work perfect at next LyX
> compiling.
> It's just a matter of keep .ly code in external files.
>
> Hope to have helped you.
> These days I'm very busy, but in a pair of weeks I'm going to work on the
> lilypond-book thing. I quote you "there should be a solution".
> Bye
> Piero