feature request

2009-03-31 Thread Stefano Baroni
Hi All! I understand that in LyX it is not possible to start the  
numbering in an enumearte environment other than from one. Right? If  
this is the case, it would be extremely useful to have the possibility  
of starting from any value, without tweaking the LaTeX code (which I  
did). A common instance where such a feature would be helpful is in  
preparing written exam tests. The various questions of the text should  
be enumerated sequentually, but they are often separated by some text  
whose paragraphs ought not be numbered. Thanks for the beautiful  
software and the wonderful feedback from/to the users' community -  
Stefano Baroni


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Re: new user

2009-03-31 Thread Doug Laidlaw
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 7:36:10 am Paul Sutton wrote:
 Hi

 I am fairly new to lyx and latex,  so far its pretty good I have figured
 out how to do citations and chemical formulas etc,  which is much easier
 than using a word processor for such tasks.

 I have been trying to work on a nicely formatted document to list all
 the command (key bindings) for the joe command reference on lyx under
 ubuntu 8.10. lyx 1.5.6.

 This is for the linux documentation project, so I have done a similar
 document just need to update it, which is what I am using lyx for

 I put all the data in tables,  but I think this was a bad idea, as the
 newlines etc are causing problems,  what I want to go back to is a
 document without all the table tags in,  so it just lists what was in
 the table in the lyx document

 things like

 ^BLeft^F  Right
 ^PUp  ^N  Down


 right now this is in a table, but I want it not in a table, I can't seem
 to find out how to highlight the table and just remove it,

 the code for the above is

 \begin{tabular}{|c|c|c|c|}
 \hline
 \textasciicircum{}B  Left  \textasciicircum{}F  Right\tabularnewline
 \hline
 \hline
 \textasciicircum{}P  Up  \textasciicircum{}N  Down\tabularnewline
 \hline
 \end{tabular}\begin{tabular}{|c|c|}
 \hline
 \textasciicircum{}Z  Previous Word\tabularnewline
 \hline
 \hline
 \textasciicircum{}X  Next Word\tabularnewline
 \hline
 \end{tabular}

 so there has to be a way to undo the table bit.  Even if its a perl or
 bash script that I can run on the file and have it remove the
 appropriate code.

 thanks for any help.

 Paul Sutton

Do you want to remove the table structure, or just the cell boundary lines?  I 
can't help you either way, but the answer may depend on this.

Doug.


Re: feature request

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-31, Stefano Baroni wrote:

 it would be extremely useful to have the possibility =20=
 of starting from any value, without tweaking the LaTeX code

This is possible with the enumitem module which you can download from the
LyX wiki (http://wiki.lyx.org).

Günter



Re: new user

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-31, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 March 2009 7:36:10 am Paul Sutton wrote:

 I put all the data in tables,  but I think this was a bad idea, as the
 newlines etc are causing problems,  what I want to go back to is a
 document without all the table tags in,  so it just lists what was in
 the table in the lyx document

Maybe export as text helps?

Günter



Re: Search for Environment?

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-30, Steve Litt wrote:

 For years, Microsoft Word has had something that would be cool in LyX
 --- search for environment (or charstyle). I just found myself
 wondering if I had redundant copies of a story in my book, and so
 wanted to search for all text in Story environment, but there's no way
 to do it as far as I can tell.

You can use the grep command on the source file to find all Story
environments and you can use Search in a text editor on the source file
to go to the places.

Not nice but practical.

Günter



Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Nikos Alexandris nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de writes:
 Don't you really start a new thread by changing the subject? I this is
 the case, the information is still not organised/concentrated in one
 place as it should be.

Smart mail readers do not use the subject only to see threads.

JMarc


Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-29, Piero Faustini wrote:

 I wonder why could not these discussions been moved to a forum. I mean,
 the discussion list is great but is very hard to use for common users.

Because most people here want it as it is. And many people on this list
regard themselfs common users.

 (I use GMANE for writing/browsing but I still receive daily updates in
 my mailbox).

If you don't want these, you can unsubscribe from the list and use
GMANE exclusively (I do).

 A forum-like interface like Nabble would be much better 

http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc4 says:

  Alternately, if you prefer a forum-like web-based interface to the
  users' list, check us out on our `Nabble page
  http://www.nabble.com/LyX---Users-f28347.html`_ [nabble.com]. 

so this seems possible (it did not work for me, endless loading and no
content shown).

 There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's not as active as this 
 discussion list; 

So it seems not so many common users prefer the forum.
Also, it seems odd to split the ressources. The most impressive thing
about this list is that you get fast and to-the-point response from
power users and developers. And these seem to have a strong preference
for the mail list (much faster working once set up). An easily
accessible forum without competent help would be sensless.


 anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something for this
 list in Nabble and then didn't get the answers because they didn't 
 know Nabble don't post messages not posted directly there.

So the link to Nabble should either be augmented with an
explanation/warning or just removed.


I agree that a side-bar link saying Mailing Lists / Forum can raise
expectations that are not met by linked page http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists.

IMO, this page should contain a section 

Web interfaces / Forum
--

that points to the web based GMANE interface 
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general
(and maybe the Nabble as well with a description on how to post there).

Günter



Re: new user

2009-03-31 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Paul Sutton wrote:

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Hi

I am fairly new to lyx and latex,  so far its pretty good I have figured
out how to do citations and chemical formulas etc,  which is much easier
than using a word processor for such tasks.

I have been trying to work on a nicely formatted document to list all
the command (key bindings) for the joe command reference on lyx under
ubuntu 8.10. lyx 1.5.6.

This is for the linux documentation project, so I have done a similar
document just need to update it, which is what I am using lyx for   

I put all the data in tables,  but I think this was a bad idea, as the
newlines etc are causing problems,  what I want to go back to is a
document without all the table tags in,  so it just lists what was in
the table in the lyx document

things like

^B  Left^F  Right
^P  Up  ^N  Down


right now this is in a table, but I want it not in a table, I can't seem
to find out how to highlight the table and just remove it,


Just copy and paste the full table into a text editor. This will give 
you a nicely tab separated table.

Then you can just delete the table in LyX.

Abdel.



Re: Where is the standard installerfür Lyx 1.6.2-1?

2009-03-31 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
 I changed the download section of www.lyx.org so that we now only refer to
 the ftp site and not to special filenames. This prevents further problems
 when an installer is not available or a bug was fixed in the installer so
 that there is a new filename for it. OK with you Jürgen?

I saw the change and I can live with that, since it makes things easier for 
us if some installer is yet missing (as we had now), and I also do not see 
the need to make yours un-official. However, I see the concerns that 
people like to have some kind of one-click-installation. For Mac, we link to 
one specific binary (of several possibilities), so we probably have to 
decide for a uniform way.

Maybe we can add two links (one to Joost's installer, one to yours), and 
then indicate if one of both is still the old version?

Jürgen




source view empty

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
When I tried today to look at the LaTeX source with ViewSource, the field
stays empty and the tick-boxes (completer source and automatic update) are
greyed out.
  I cannot remember any change since the last time it
worked. The console window where I started lyx does not show any error.

This is with LyX 1.6.2-svn, while my 1.6.1 version shows the source as usual.

Did anyone else experience this problem? Is there a known remedy?

Günter



RE: source view empty

2009-03-31 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW

When I tried today to look at the LaTeX source with ViewSource, the
field stays empty and the tick-boxes (completer source and automatic
update) are greyed out.
  I cannot remember any change since the last time it worked. The
console window where I started lyx does not show any error.

This is with LyX 1.6.2-svn, while my 1.6.1 version shows the source
as usual.

Did anyone else experience this problem? Is there a known remedy?

Günter


I have the same with 1.6.2.. I've no clue what happened..

Vincent



LyX - rtf, doc or openoffice convert: ONCE AGAIN

2009-03-31 Thread Piero Faustini
Hello,
I hate to re-open this subject, but I've still NEVER been able to convert a 
Hello world doc to RTF, OOo, Word Doc or whatever, and I use LyX since 1.5.0 
version (now 1.6.2).
So this message is just for those who till yesterday never could export and 
then found the light with some tweak.
I read a thousand ways to do it and tried some, reinstalled converters, 
tweaked, manually did it etc. NOTHING. So, for a matter of time, I will not 
rely on old posts if they're not proven to be working at least by the users 
they tried to help, to whom this message is addressed.
From what I understood, the problem is not OS-related (I use winXP anyway) and 
relates to a bunch of people who report almost the same.
in my case, if using the export  oo menu command:
- the conversion take quite a long time (for an article with hello world), 
more or less same time of compiling one of my quite complex 150 pages doc (with 
3 LaTeX runs).
- the result is a .odt with a kb size proportional to the (converted) content 
- (opened with OOo 3) the content is not shown and the only difference with a a 
blank doc seems to be that right margin is zero.

(If this can help, I also have never been able to fully compile with LaTeX a 
.tex file with bibtex bibliography, because LaTeX/BibTeX can't locate any .bib 
file wherever I put them, so both could be problems of paths or similar - this 
seems also to be an old users problem)

I could stand (of course) a manual way, if it is reported to work with 
problematic users like me ;)

Thanks, and sorry if RE-RE-RE-RE-POST

Piero



Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Manveru
2009/3/31 Nikos Alexandris nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de:
 On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote:

  when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark
  ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big
  drawback.

 When I ask a question and then either am giving an answer or figure one out, 
 I
 reply one more time to the thread and append SOLVED to the subject. That's
 a pretty commonly known technique recommended by ESR:

 http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#followup

 But all too few people choose to use it.


 Thanks Steve. I didn't know it works like that.

 Don't you really start a new thread by changing the subject? I this is
 the case, the information is still not organised/concentrated in one
 place as it should be.

It should work in a way that Steve describe but often works like Nikos
said. I my case when you change the subject GMAIL treats that message
as new thread, that is way I do not like changing subjects.

I do not know who can I bomb with a feature request for more
intelligent thread merge for messages from discussion lists. There is
special marker in message headers to do that - GMAIL ignores that.
That's a shame bug.

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RE: collecting items

2009-03-31 Thread Pol
Micha Feigin wrote:

 If it's lyx or latex documents you can just copy and paste. Lyx will work
 as is. Latex math you need to either paste into an existing math block or
 paste as normal text, then select the math parts and press Ctrl-M to
 create a math block of the text.

Yes, they are all lyx documents. 
My trick is to collect most of math questions in one file, so as to be able
to pick up what is needed, when preparing a new doc. 

A different solution  would be to store each math question or expression in
distinct lyx document. Then, desired items could be included into your doc
through the 'input' instruction.  But i have never tried.


Thank you
---P




Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Manveru
2009/3/30 Paul A. Rubin ru...@msu.edu:
[...]
 One advantage that I think a forum might have over the current list/group
 structure is that on most forums (at least the forums I visit), I can scroll
 down a thread and see all the message text in one gulp.  With a long thread,
 such as this one, I need to access each message separately to read it, and
 I'm much too lazy for that.

:-) That is advantage of GMAIL that you can do that, in opposite to
lack of proper tracking when message arrives with changed subject :-(

I would like to see at least manual joining of message into threads.
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Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:


I agree that a side-bar link saying Mailing Lists / Forum can raise
expectations that are not met by linked page http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists.

IMO, this page should contain a section


I sent the password for editing the web page to Guenter off-list, so maybe 
we'll see improvement on this page:-)


/Christian

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RE: source view empty

2009-03-31 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
 

When I tried today to look at the LaTeX source with ViewSource, the 
field stays empty and the tick-boxes (completer source and automatic
update) are greyed out.
  I cannot remember any change since the last time it worked. The 
console window where I started lyx does not show any error.

This is with LyX 1.6.2-svn, while my 1.6.1 version shows the source as 
usual.

Did anyone else experience this problem? Is there a known remedy?

Günter


I have the same with 1.6.2.. I've no clue what happened..


Are you on Windows ?

If so, deleting the following key from the registry solves the problem:

HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-2082945442-480271342-340043625-47002\Software\LyX\LyX-1.6.2\views\0\view-source

Vincent



Re: LyX - rtf, doc or openoffice convert: ONCE AGAIN

2009-03-31 Thread Piero Faustini
Some more details if this can help you helping me!

I tried different exports:
- Latex always works perfect (Alleluja!)
- HTML works
- HTML (Word) crashes LyX (And doesn't work): a bunch of seconds after execute 
command htlatex... the graphics of GUI disappear and the LyX instance can't be 
recovered.
- text works
- text ps2ascii works (but with loads of garbage)
- I can remember that sometimes OOo conversion crashed - or gave errors - and 
didn't work (but as I can remember, it was prior to LyX 1.6.1)
- As now it always seems to work but with the result described above in my 
previous message.

I can't remember more details on my experiments in LyX direct conversion, but I 
can execute some debugging if someone can direct me. (and I'm thinking about 
developers: this little bug could be very annoying for new and average users, 
so feel free to use my body for your experiments!)

Thanks!

Piero



How to mark text for operations in 1.6.2?

2009-03-31 Thread Anthony Campbell
In earlier versions of lyx I could mark lines or longer sections of text
using Shift+Right-arrow. This no longer works in 1.6.2 and I have to use the
mouse, which is less satisfactory. Is there any way to recapture the
earlier behaviour? Or is it a bug?

Anthony

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Re: Where is the standard installerfür Lyx 1.6.2-1?

2009-03-31 Thread Manveru
2009/3/31 Jürgen Spitzmüller j.spitzmuel...@gmx.de:
 Uwe Stöhr wrote:
 I changed the download section of www.lyx.org so that we now only refer to
 the ftp site and not to special filenames. This prevents further problems
 when an installer is not available or a bug was fixed in the installer so
 that there is a new filename for it. OK with you Jürgen?

 I saw the change and I can live with that, since it makes things easier for
 us if some installer is yet missing (as we had now), and I also do not see
 the need to make yours un-official. However, I see the concerns that
 people like to have some kind of one-click-installation. For Mac, we link to
 one specific binary (of several possibilities), so we probably have to
 decide for a uniform way.

 Maybe we can add two links (one to Joost's installer, one to yours), and
 then indicate if one of both is still the old version?

I do not know how the engine below LyX main web page is advanced, but
maybe it could check FTP once again and link automatically to latest
binaries of WinInstaller and AltInstaller.


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Re: beamer with default settings is ugly

2009-03-31 Thread Helge Hafting

Neal Becker wrote:

Maybe, except then there is no indication of links at all.  I think it would 
be best to just get rid of boxes on navigation symbols.


Indication isn't necessary in all cases.
If I hold a presentation using LyX-generated PDF, then I know that every 
reference in the document, such as TOC items and URLs, are clickable.


Helge Hafting


Re: source view empty

2009-03-31 Thread G. Milde
On 31.03.09, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:

 When I tried today to look at the LaTeX source with ViewSource, the 
 field stays empty and the tick-boxes (complete source and automatic
 update) are greyed out.

 Did anyone else experience this problem? Is there a known remedy?
 
 I have the same with 1.6.2.. I've no clue what happened..

 Are you on Windows ?

 If so, deleting the following key from the registry solves the problem:

 HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-2082945442-480271342-340043625-47002\Software\LyX\LyX-1.6.2\views\0\view-source

No, I am on Unix (Debian Gnu/Linux). But I found that removing the file
~/.config/LyX/LyX-1.6.2.conf did the trick (with the unwanted side-effect
of restoring window size and toolbar visibility to the defaults).
Changing

 0\view-source\autoupdate=false
 
to 

 0\view-source\autoupdate=true 
 
helped without side effects.

Furthermore, I found the reason: You can reproduce the bug if you untick
both, complete source and autoupdate in the source view window.

Günter


Re: Search for Environment?

2009-03-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 02:45:54 am Guenter Milde wrote:
 On 2009-03-30, Steve Litt wrote:
  For years, Microsoft Word has had something that would be cool in LyX
  --- search for environment (or charstyle). I just found myself
  wondering if I had redundant copies of a story in my book, and so
  wanted to search for all text in Story environment, but there's no way
  to do it as far as I can tell.

 You can use the grep command on the source file to find all Story
 environments and you can use Search in a text editor on the source file
 to go to the places.

 Not nice but practical.

 GÃŧnter

:-) Yes, that's what I do now, but then you need to find the corresponding 
text in LyX, so you search first with grep or Vim, and then you search again 
in LyX.

SteveT

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Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Piero Faustini
Manveru manv...@... writes:

 I do not know who can I bomb with a feature request for more
 intelligent thread merge for messages from discussion lists. There is
 special marker in message headers to do that - GMAIL ignores that.
 That's a shame bug.

It's me who casted a evil spell on the Mailing List, or what?
GMANE since yesterday started to behave exactly as you told GMAIL does: now the 
thread I started is split in several ones!!! In Italy I would be called a 
menagramo (something like bad luck antenna) and banned from human society.
To our (serious) discussion: Manveru, I hope you didn't feel negative 
vibrations in my criticism to your answer, in fact I found it very polite and 
constructive.
I tried to express a need that I think could be the *silent* majority's one, 
without, as someone requested, give data on it but based on what I can see 
today in the internet and in my department of History.
For instance, I would like to convert to LyX my supervisor (we are 
musicologists) which is, in his 55, a great academic and an exceptionally 
opened and curious mind. But his relationship with the IT is much more similar 
to my 19y old sister's one than to any other person here, and I'm sure he's NO 
exception in our humanistic field, being the IT and computers pros (and much 
much much more the old way pros) THE rare exceptions in departments similar 
to mine. If some researcher in my Faculty uses the internet in order to look 
for information, no matter his age, he uses it in the same way of a 15 years 
old boy, *** because they started using it at the same moment. And I guess we 
can't call him a neostrada child.
Arguments that claims forum is not good enough because the only existing LyX 
forum has just a few contributors is too much similar to saying why caring 
about public transport? Nobody uses it!: public transport will be efficient, 
fast, reliable, cheap and widely used when cars will be banned and money 
inverted in it, NOT and NEVER before. In the same way, until the best LyX 
contributors and LyX helping hands use mailing lists, any forum will be almost 
useless. In fact, I don't use it, just reply once in a while to stuck people 
about very very simple things.  
With this, I don't want to force anyone in changing its habits. On the other 
hand, thanks to people like you I understood the advantages and philosophy of 
lists, although new and basic LyX users are still unlikely to have an easy 
first access to this very one. If there's something I can do to make it a bit 
easier for them (most of all because I've been recently in the same trouble), 
please tell me.
Piero

P.S. One thing could be to add to the ml/forum page a link to

 http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19 

for newbies specifying that ML is much better to ask for more than basic 
issues. Similar links to other language specific forums (if existing) could be 
even better if we recommend to come back to ML once issues grow serious.

*** Jstor or similars turned out to be really interesting for humanists not 
more than a bunch of months ago



Re: Search for Environment?

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-31, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 March 2009 02:45:54 am Guenter Milde wrote:

:-) Yes, that's what I do now, but then you need to find the corresponding 
 text in LyX, so you search first with grep or Vim, and then you search again 
 in LyX.

Actually, I do the grep in my text editor and then jump to the line in the
text editor as well (fine with simple text, not so nice with rich text or
equations).

I am still waiting for a lfun that allows opening a lyx file and place
the cursor to the (at least approximate) position of a given line.

Unfortunately, server-goto-file-row does not do this (instead it goes
to the place indicated by the row in the exported latex source file).

Günter



Re: How to mark text for operations in 1.6.2?

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-31, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 In earlier versions of lyx I could mark lines or longer sections of text
 using Shift+Right-arrow. This no longer works in 1.6.2 and I have to use the
 mouse, which is less satisfactory. Is there any way to recapture the
 earlier behaviour? Or is it a bug?

It works here (1.6.2svn on Linux). 
Does Shift+Left-Arrow or Shift+End work?

You might try to (re)set the keybinding with ToolsSettings.

Günter



Re: How to mark text for operations in 1.6.2?

2009-03-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk writes:

 In earlier versions of lyx I could mark lines or longer sections of text
 using Shift+Right-arrow. This no longer works in 1.6.2 and I have to use the
 mouse, which is less satisfactory. Is there any way to recapture the
 earlier behaviour? Or is it a bug?

You probably have a local bind file that does not work anymore. I am
afraid you have to get rid of it (or change the function names using the
information in the RELEASE-NOTES file).

JMarc


Re: How to mark text for operations in 1.6.2?

2009-03-31 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 31 Mar 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk writes:
 
  In earlier versions of lyx I could mark lines or longer sections of text
  using Shift+Right-arrow. This no longer works in 1.6.2 and I have to use the
  mouse, which is less satisfactory. Is there any way to recapture the
  earlier behaviour? Or is it a bug?
 
 You probably have a local bind file that does not work anymore. I am
 afraid you have to get rid of it (or change the function names using the
 information in the RELEASE-NOTES file).
 
 JMarc

Thanks to both for replies. Having read the RELEASE-NOTES as suggested I
found I had to follow the advice to move my ~/.lyx directory aside and
let lyx remake it, after which the function returned.

Anthony

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RE: source view empty

2009-03-31 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
Furthermore, I found the reason: You can reproduce the bug if you
untick both, complete source and autoupdate in the source view
window.

Günter

This should be fixed in 1.6.3.

Vincent


Re: Re: Where is the standard installerfür Lyx 1.6.2-1?

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Manveru wrote:

Maybe we can add two links (one to Joost's installer, one to yours), 
and then indicate if one of both is still the old version?


I do not know how the engine below LyX main web page is advanced, but 
maybe it could check FTP once again and link automatically to latest 
binaries of WinInstaller and AltInstaller.


If someone gives me a piece of PHP-code with the algorithm to detect them, 
I can incorporate it into the web page.


I don't think the coding is the problem, but deciding what we want the 
algorithm to do...


/Christian

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SENSELESS!!!

2009-03-31 Thread E. Kaplan
What is the meaning of this SENSELESS!!! (error message?) that is 
inserted near each wrapped figure?  The wrapping works fine, so I am 
puzzled by this error message.

EK



Re: SENSELESS!!!

2009-03-31 Thread Manveru
2009/3/31 E. Kaplan ehud.kap...@mssm.edu:
 What is the meaning of this SENSELESS!!! (error message?) that is inserted
 near each wrapped figure?  The wrapping works fine, so I am puzzled by this
 error message.

I think nobody understands what do you writing about without giving
any example, posting a file, etc. At least version of LyX and platform
is needed.

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl


Wiki: module exchange

2009-03-31 Thread Paul A. Rubin
I noticed a hint in one of the messages here that led me to discover a 
user-supplied module on the wiki: http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/Enumitem.  I 
had to do a search to find it, though.


We have a page on the wiki for sharing layouts and tips about layouts. 
It might be a good idea to start a similar page for exchanging modules 
and tips about them.  Sadly, I have negative idle time (but positive 
stress) at the moment, so I can't follow up on my own suggestion.


/Paul



Re: SENSELESS!!!

2009-03-31 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Manveru wrote:
 What is the meaning of this SENSELESS!!! (error message?) that is
 inserted near each wrapped figure?  The wrapping works fine, so I am
 puzzled by this error message.
 
 I think nobody understands what do you writing about without giving
 any example, posting a file, etc. At least version of LyX and platform
 is needed.

Probably it is a caption that is inserted in a senseless position (usually 
outside a float).

Jürgen




RE: SENSELESS!!!

2009-03-31 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
What is the meaning of this SENSELESS!!! (error message?)
that is inserted near each wrapped figure?  The wrapping works
fine, so I am puzzled by this error message.

EK


You probably have captions that are outside the float ...

Vincent



interface questions: navigator and view source

2009-03-31 Thread Richard Talley
Running Lyx 1.6.2 on OS X 10.4.11 PPC.

1. When I first launched Lyx 1.6.2, the view source window was at the
bottom of the main Lyx window. I clicked on the button to make it move
to its own separate window. Now I'd like the view source window to
move back into the main LyX window, but I can't find a way to do that.

2. The navigator panel pops out to the right by doing something like
Navigate - List of Figures - Open Navigator...
I can't find a way to make the panel go away without closing and
re-opening Lyx. Is there an easy way to do this, particularly are
there any keyboard shortcuts to make the navigator panel appear and
disappear?

Thanks.

-- Rich


Re: Re: Where is the standard installerfür Lyx 1.6. 2-1?

2009-03-31 Thread Manveru
2009/3/31 Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com:
[...]
 I don't think the coding is the problem, but deciding what we want the
 algorithm to do...


I think filenames has their own format (formalized or not). So...

1) Anonymously log into ftp://ftp.lyx.org/
2) Change dir to /pub/lyx/bin
3) List directory to the array and take latest number in format x.y.z
(probably check x first and so on)
4) Change to that selected directory
5) For Jost's installer: List all files matching
LyX-[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+-[0-9]+-Installer\.exe
For Uwe's installer: List all files matching
LyX-[0-9]+-[0-9]+-[0-9]-AltInstaller-Complete\.exe
to the array
6) Select files which have all numbers highest (x.y.z and xyz could be
ignored as they should match parent directory) and store its names.
7) Build URL for these two from ftp address + directory + filename
8) Glitch here - I do not think it is efficient to check the ftp every
time user reads the page, until ftp is served on the same machine - so
these values should be taken from some file prepared by script running
on cron.

Jost  Uwe: Please correct me if given regexps are wrong for names of
your installers.

Christian: I not not best at PHP currently, but as I mentioned elier
PHP should take data from file. I can write python script which checks
FTP and produces XML file for all binary installer (MacOS too)
containing latest version available in binary and url to it. You can
easily do a table with binaries on the page from such data - if you
want other format just tell me.

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl


RE: interface questions: navigator and view source

2009-03-31 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
 

1. When I first launched Lyx 1.6.2, the view source window
was at the bottom of the main Lyx window. I clicked on the
button to make it move to its own separate window. Now I'd
like the view source window to move back into the main LyX
window, but I can't find a way to do that.

It should dock automatically when you move it close to a border of the
LyX window. If not, you can double-click on the title bar of the view
source window.

2. The navigator panel pops out to the right by doing something
like Navigate - List of Figures - Open Navigator...

Hmm, I don't have this option :(..


I can't find a way to make the panel go away without closing
and re-opening Lyx. Is there an easy way to do this, particularly
are there any keyboard shortcuts to make the navigator panel
appear and disappear?

I have a little cross in the top-right of the Outline (navigator), and
there is an icon that looks like a book in the toolbar which you can
press, and you can enter dialog-toggle toc in the command buffer
(View-Toolbars-Command Buffer).

You can assign a shortcut to dialog-toggle toc in the Shortcuts
section of the Preferences dialog. Press New, enter the function I
mentioned above, and choose a shortcut.


Thanks.

-- Rich

Vincent


Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-31, Christian Ridderström wrote:
 ---310244551-99825937-1238496499=:12262
 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT

 On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:

 I agree that a side-bar link saying Mailing Lists / Forum can raise
 expectations that are not met by the linked page
...

 I sent the password for editing the web page to Guenter off-list, so maybe 
 we'll see improvement on this page:-)

I did the proposed edits to http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists. Please view
and comment.

Günter



RE: source view empty

2009-03-31 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW

A simple work-around is to enter buffer-toggle-read-only into the command 
buffer. (And a second time to make your document writeable again).

Vincent


Re: interface questions: navigator and view source

2009-03-31 Thread Richard Talley
Thanks, Vincent.


1. When I first launched Lyx 1.6.2, the view source window
was at the bottom of the main Lyx window. I clicked on the
button to make it move to its own separate window. Now I'd
like the view source window to move back into the main LyX
window, but I can't find a way to do that.

 It should dock automatically when you move it close to a border of the
 LyX window.

That doesn't work, at least not in my installation on OS X.

 If not, you can double-click on the title bar of the view
 source window.

That works. Excellent.

2. The navigator panel pops out to the right by doing something
like Navigate - List of Figures - Open Navigator...

 Hmm, I don't have this option :(..

You probably don't have a document open that has a list of figures.


I can't find a way to make the panel go away without closing
and re-opening Lyx. Is there an easy way to do this, particularly
are there any keyboard shortcuts to make the navigator panel
appear and disappear?

 I have a little cross in the top-right of the Outline (navigator), and

Nope, no little cross. I understand that Qt on OS X  still needs some
work (as compared to Windows) so they'll be occasional anomalies like
this.

 there is an icon that looks like a book in the toolbar which you can
 press, and you can enter dialog-toggle toc in the command buffer
 (View-Toolbars-Command Buffer).

I wasn't seeing that icon because I didn't have my Lyx window open
side enough (so I could see the navigator panel).

 You can assign a shortcut to dialog-toggle toc in the Shortcuts
 section of the Preferences dialog. Press New, enter the function I
 mentioned above, and choose a shortcut.


Thanks.

-- Rich

 Vincent


-- Rich


SENSELESS and Wrapfigure

2009-03-31 Thread Ehud Kaplan
Now that I have discovered the Float/figure wrap entry in the item, 
things will look better... ;-)


--
Ehud Kaplan



Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Helge Hafting

Piero Faustini wrote:
Hello, 
I wonder why could not these discussions been moved to a forum.


The mailing list is run by volunteers, and volunteers participate.

We use a mailing list because we want to. Therefore, no amount of 
arguments can change that. The list can't be closed by force - although 
it can die out if people disappear.


I prefer forums for stuff that I don't track - when I just pop in a 
couple of times per year with some very specific problem. Subscribing to 
a list is overdoing it in such cases.  But I want to keep a closer eye 
on LyX, so the mailing list approach works better. I can delete 
uninteresting threads and keep interesting stuff around as I wish. And 
my email client tells me how many new messages there is in _all_ the 
lists I read. I don't have to go around and check anything. I am not 
going to either.


Now, if you want to look at LyX stuff only occationally, consider 
looking at the web archives. Such as http://marc.info/?l=lyx-users
Here you can read anything in a web interface, without the 
difficulties of subscribing.


I mean, the discussion list is great but is very hard to use for common users 


I wouldn't call it hard. Subscribe - and the messages keeps coming to 
you. Sending mail to lyx-users@lists.lyx.org isn't hard either, it is 
simply another email address. Put it in your contact list if that makes 
it easier. Another tip: many set up their email to sort mailing list 
messages into a folder of their own, so they don't fill up the inbox.


The instructions are on the web. Subscribing takes a little effort, but 
I wouldn't call it hard to do.


If you prefer a web browser, get a free webmail account just for the 
mailing list. That way you won't have to set up mail sorting either.


(I use GMANE for writing/browsing but I still receive daily updates in my 
mailbox).
A forum-like interface like Nabble would be much better but... why don't we use 
a normal forum site?


Several Lyx forums actually exists.
http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19
http://n2.nabble.com/LyX-f475766.html
http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/viewforum.php?f=10

But you can't force them on people. Those who prefer a list will keep 
running and using a list. If none of the forum people can provide 
adequate help - well, come to the list then.  How to use the list is 
described on the lyx website, or so I hope. Or figure things out and 
become a forum-based expert yourself.


There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's not as active as this 
discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something 
for this list in Nabble and then didn't get the answers because they didn't 
know Nabble don't post messages not posted directly there.
I think current (as past) LyX politic should be GO FOR THE AVERAGE USER, be 


Considering users would be the policy if LyX were a company product. But 
then, companies can pay people to run and monitor a forum that they 
don't prefer to use voluntarily. LyX is run by volunteers, who do what 
they themselves want. We make LyX for ourselves - and happens to make it 
available for others too. Gaining market share doesn't matter so much 
for a free product. It is cool but not necessary.



simple and easy. Why LaTeX have a lot of forum sites, while LyX doesn't???


LaTeX is older and has a bigger user base. So there are enough people 
for several forums - as well as several mailing lists.


Lack of information or access to information is the worst (and senseless) way 
to discourage LyX users.


The information is available. And to be blunt - if a user can't be 
bothered with the list, then we can't be bothered to help. We volunteer 
some time for this, we aren't paid. We don't have customers that are 
always right. We help fellow users now and then, but don't jump through 
hoops to do so.


Helge Hafting



Re: Lilypond integration

2009-03-31 Thread Helge Hafting

Piero Faustini wrote:
Support for lilypond-book would be interesting. And sure - if you 
volunteer to do some work then you will get it faster.


I would happily contribute, but I'm not a programmer. May I be of some help 
just giving some suggestion or testing?



This process can be divided into several steps, you won't have to do it 
all at once.


I think your 4-steps are a perfect roadmap.

I have a doubt, although it's regarding more the LaTeX-LilyPond integration: 
lily-book knows how to break music lines (or pages) in a given latex 
environment, but it can't guess if this environment will change after LaTeX 
compile. I mean: I'm writing a komascript book using some packages which can 
alter heavily the shape of the text, such as BibLaTeX, by adding more text. 
This is the reason why my LyX's LaTeX run up to 4 times when compiling, and 
everything works ok. Can lilypond-book give instructions at the beginning of 
this process? Can it be run more than once between Latex runs just to refine 
the process? If yes, what about LyX and all this mess?


I don't know. LyX can be enhanced to do anything that you can do with 
latex+lilypond. As you said, LyX already knows to run latex several 
times in order to  resolve bibliographies, references, TOCs and so on. 
If lilypond outputs information to the effect that something changed, 
and so a rerun *might* be necessary, then sure - LyX can be programmed 
to get the message.


Or, if it is necessary (and sufficient) to re-run lilypond on each 
re-run of latex, then that can be arranged instead.


The big question is - how can we know that another re-run is needed? LyX 
can't look at the final PDF and spot a badly broken musical line. 
However, lyx can be made to search any logfile lilypond produce, and 
look for messages that indicate such problems.


I don't know enough about lilypond to answer this.

Helge Hafting


1.6.2 handling of graphics paths changed from 1.6.1.

2009-03-31 Thread Jason K Howlett
Hello,

I have a LyX document that includes graphics in the header, i.e., 
ERT:\lhead{\includegraphics{mypic.eps}}. In LyX 1.6.1 this worked 
perfectly when producing DVI. I recently upgraded to 1.6.2 (on Windows) 
and the graphic no longer is displayed in the DVI. I used the LyX 
mechanism for inserting the graphic in the document body and it shows up 
fine. When I inspect the generated DVI I see the following differences:

For the file in the header with the manual includegraphics: 
PSfile=C:/Documents and Settings/xx/Desktop/mypaper//mypic.eps
For the file inserted with the LyX dialog: 
PSfile=0C__Documents_and_Settings_xx_Desktop_mypaper_mypic.eps

I understand the issue with DVI and quoted paths and the need to run 
clean_dvi.py, but I don't understand why this worked fine with 1.6.1 and 
now doesn't with 1.6.2. If I export Latex code and run pplatex on it 
manually the results are just fine. In fact, the resulting DVI doesn't 
have any path information at all. It is just PSfile=mypic.eps.


For comparison, when I use LyX 1.6.1 the DVI has the following:

For the file in the header with the manual includegraphics: 
PSfile=C:/Documents and Settings/xx/Desktop/mypaper//mypic.eps
For the file inserted with the LyX dialog: 
PSfile=0C__Documents_and_Settings_xx_Desktop_mypaper_mypic.eps

The quotes are not around the path. Why has this behavior changed and how 
can I work around the problem?

Thanks,

Jason K. Howlett
Simulation Lead ATG IFS
Raytheon Missile Systems

Problem with PSTricks an LYX

2009-03-31 Thread Jorge Mario Garcia
Good morning
My problem is:
I want to use the command

  \readdata{\funcion}{dtos2.txt}

 but LYX creates a temporary file where you saved the *. tex, the problem is
that my file dtos2.txt not is in the  same folder and lyx generates an
error.

I try to include it as an attachment, but LyX formats are already in place
and do not let me, and shows an error.

Can you help me?

-- 
Jorge Mario Garcia Usuga
Director Grupo Gedes
Universidad del Quindío


Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 02:38:21AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
 One thing that is not that good in MLs are LONG threads as the current
 one. It's hard to follow sometimes and people tend to post irrelevant
 stuff on a ML-thread or change the subject of it so a new thread starts
 when it's not required.

Sound like a deficiency in your mail client. Having a certain Subject
is not a criteria for being a thread, that's what Message-Id and
References are made for.

With mailing lists, the client have all the power to filter, sort,
whatever. With forums, you are at the mercy of the forum admin. If he
deeems sorting unimportant, well, then you can't sort. Period.

 In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The
 latter is, in my humble opinion, a big drawback.

Again, a deficiency in the mail client you use. (Esc t D in mutt e.g.)

 Fora require more energy to maintain but provide means to organize
 information better.

On the contrary. In a forum you are bound to use whatever the forum
provides, and you have to change habits if you go to another forum.

With mails, you can decide what client to use, and there are dozens if
not hundreds of them. And they will behave on every mailing list the
same.

 Of course, the LyX-wiki is very good which fulfills
 most of what the ML doesn't satisfy.
 
 That said, I think a ML + Wiki are enough. Without the wiki, the forum
 would be a must-have.

We survived more than a decade without wiki and forum rather well.
(And lucky us got a wiki, not a forum later ;-})

All in all I have the impression that Forums are hyped nowadays because
people lost the ability to choose (and configure...) mail clients or
live in a the net is a browser world.

When I think about it, I might have lost that ability, too. But I keep
copying my mail client setup to new machines ;-)

Andre'


Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 07:08:23AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
  On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote:
  
   when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark
   ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big
   drawback.
  
  When I ask a question and then either am giving an answer or figure
  one out, I reply one more time to the thread and append SOLVED to
  the subject. That's a pretty commonly known technique recommended by
  ESR:
  
  http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#followup
  
  But all too few people choose to use it.
  
  SteveT
 
 Thanks Steve. I didn't know it works like that.
 
 Don't you really start a new thread by changing the subject? I this is
 the case, the information is still not organised/concentrated in one
 place as it should be.

Everything, including all grouping is done on client side. So it is your
choice (of a mail client and/or configuration) whether a changed subject
is shown as a new thread.

Andre'


Re: Search for Environment?

2009-03-31 Thread rgheck

Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

For years, Microsoft Word has had something that would be cool in LyX 
--- search for environment (or charstyle). I just found myself 
wondering if I had redundant copies of a story in my book, and so 
wanted to search for all text in Story environment, but there's no 
way to do it as far as I can tell.


It is very easy to extend the Navigator/Outliner to list the different 
character styles available in the document. I was actually thinking 
about implementing this before I became a very busy man :-)
Just put an enhancement entry in bugzilla/trac when it's open again 
and hopefully someone (you?) will implement it for next release.


I found myself wanting something like this the other day. Can you give 
me a quick outline of how to do it, Abdel? What I'm not sure about is 
where the method would go. Where is the one for sections?


rh



Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Andre Poenitz wrote:


With mailing lists, the client have all the power to filter, sort,
whatever. With forums, you are at the mercy of the forum admin. If he
deeems sorting unimportant, well, then you can't sort. Period.


  Yup. Alping (formerly pine), mutt, and elm all do this.


In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The
latter is, in my humble opinion, a big drawback.


Again, a deficiency in the mail client you use. (Esc t D in mutt e.g.)


  That's not a matter for the MUA, but for the message writer. It's a matter
of courtesy to append SOLVED, FIXED, or similar word to the end of the
subject line when appropriate. Heck, the MUA has no idea of the message's
content, but the writer does.


On the contrary. In a forum you are bound to use whatever the forum
provides, and you have to change habits if you go to another forum.

With mails, you can decide what client to use, and there are dozens if
not hundreds of them. And they will behave on every mailing list the
same.


  More to the point, with a forum you have to go to it and pull then
information to your machine; with a mail list, the information is pushed to
your machine and all you need do is handle it as you wish.


We survived more than a decade without wiki and forum rather well.
(And lucky us got a wiki, not a forum later ;-})


  Exceedingly well, in fact.

Rich

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Re: How to mark text for operations in 1.6.2?

2009-03-31 Thread rgheck

Guenter Milde wrote:

On 2009-03-31, Anthony Campbell wrote:
  

In earlier versions of lyx I could mark lines or longer sections of text
using Shift+Right-arrow. This no longer works in 1.6.2 and I have to use the
mouse, which is less satisfactory. Is there any way to recapture the
earlier behaviour? Or is it a bug?



  
I think this has been seen before when people upgraded from 1.5.x. If 
so, then delete (or move) you LyX configuration directory ($HOME/.lyx/ 
on LinuX) and restart. It's a binding conflict of some sort.


rh



[BUG] 1.6.2 handling of graphics paths

2009-03-31 Thread rgheck

Jason K Howlett wrote:

Hello,

I have a LyX document that includes graphics in the header, i.e., 
ERT:\lhead{\includegraphics{mypic.eps}}. In LyX 1.6.1 this worked 
perfectly when producing DVI. I recently upgraded to 1.6.2 (on Windows) 
and the graphic no longer is displayed in the DVI. I used the LyX 
mechanism for inserting the graphic in the document body and it shows up 
fine. When I inspect the generated DVI I see the following differences:


For the file in the header with the manual includegraphics: 
PSfile=C:/Documents and Settings/xx/Desktop/mypaper//mypic.eps
For the file inserted with the LyX dialog: 
PSfile=0C__Documents_and_Settings_xx_Desktop_mypaper_mypic.eps


I understand the issue with DVI and quoted paths and the need to run 
clean_dvi.py, but I don't understand why this worked fine with 1.6.1 and 
now doesn't with 1.6.2. If I export Latex code and run pplatex on it 
manually the results are just fine. In fact, the resulting DVI doesn't 
have any path information at all. It is just PSfile=mypic.eps.



For comparison, when I use LyX 1.6.1 the DVI has the following:

For the file in the header with the manual includegraphics: 
PSfile=C:/Documents and Settings/xx/Desktop/mypaper//mypic.eps
For the file inserted with the LyX dialog: 
PSfile=0C__Documents_and_Settings_xx_Desktop_mypaper_mypic.eps


The quotes are not around the path. Why has this behavior changed and how 
can I work around the problem?


  
This change was an attempt to fix some bug involving quotes around path 
names, but I can't recall who did it or why, and I'm not on Windows so 
can't fix it. I'm cross-posting to devel, in the hopes of getting 
someone's attention.


rh



Re: LyX - rtf, doc or openoffice convert: ONCE AGAIN

2009-03-31 Thread rgheck

Piero Faustini wrote:

Some more details if this can help you helping me!

I tried different exports:
- Latex always works perfect (Alleluja!)
- HTML works
- HTML (Word) crashes LyX (And doesn't work): a bunch of seconds after execute 
command htlatex... the graphics of GUI disappear and the LyX instance can't be 
recovered.


  

Obviously, LyX should not crash.


- text works
- text ps2ascii works (but with loads of garbage)
- I can remember that sometimes OOo conversion crashed - or gave errors - and 
didn't work (but as I can remember, it was prior to LyX 1.6.1)


  
It sounds very much as it the problem is with htlatex, since that is 
what does BOTH the HTML (Word) conversion and the OOo conversion. Again, 
though, LyX should not crash, in any event.


rh



Re: Search for Environment?

2009-03-31 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

rgheck wrote:

Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

For years, Microsoft Word has had something that would be cool in 
LyX --- search for environment (or charstyle). I just found myself 
wondering if I had redundant copies of a story in my book, and so 
wanted to search for all text in Story environment, but there's no 
way to do it as far as I can tell.


It is very easy to extend the Navigator/Outliner to list the 
different character styles available in the document. I was actually 
thinking about implementing this before I became a very busy man :-)
Just put an enhancement entry in bugzilla/trac when it's open again 
and hopefully someone (you?) will implement it for next release.


I found myself wanting something like this the other day. Can you give 
me a quick outline of how to do it, Abdel? What I'm not sure about is 
where the method would go. Where is the one for sections?


Charstyle are insets so that's easy, just copy and paste what is done 
for other insets (updateLabels() and addToToc()).
Concerning environment, you have to read TocBackend.cpp and 
InsetText::addToToc().


Abdel.



RE: Lilypond integration

2009-03-31 Thread Piero Faustini


 The big question is - how can we know that another re-run is needed? LyX 
 can't look at the final PDF and spot a badly broken musical line. 
 However, lyx can be made to search any logfile lilypond produce, and 
 look for messages that indicate such problems.
 
 I don't know enough about lilypond to answer this.
 
 Helge Hafting

This is far beyond my knowledge, but I will be happy to help by testing and/or 
debugging, if it's not enough giving suggestions and advice.
_
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quoting an enumerated environment: is it possible?

2009-03-31 Thread Stefano Franchi
Hi all,

I need to quote a passage which consists of a series of numbered points with 
hanging figures. That is, it looks exactly like what  a series of enumerate 
environments would like in LyX/Latex. However, I need to *quote* this passage, 
and therefore, either to:

1.  add additional indents, as the quotation environment would do, or 
2. use enumerate environments but add quotation marks *outside* the numbered 
paragraphs figures 


I can't find a way to do either. If I just use the quotation environment 
(option 1), I lose the hanging paragraph formatting. If I use the enumerate 
environment, the initial quotation mark ends up after the number and not 
before.

Does anyone know of a solution? I can send a brief example if my explanation 
is too confusing.

Cheers,

S.


 __
Stefano Franchi
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Re: quoting an enumerated environment: is it possible?

2009-03-31 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Stefano Franchi schrieb:

I need to quote a passage which consists of a series of numbered points with 
hanging figures.


I would reference the number for the enumeration items you want to refer instead of quoting them if 
this is allowed in your layout.


regards Uwe


Re: quoting an enumerated environment: is it possible?

2009-03-31 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Stefano Franchi wrote:

 1.  add additional indents, as the quotation environment would do, or
 2. use enumerate environments but add quotation marks outside the numbered
 paragraphs figures

See the attached document.

Jürgen



quote_enum.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: LyX - rtf, doc or openoffice convert: ONCE AGAIN

2009-03-31 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
I confirm that I am not able to convert to OO using a full Miktex
installation with Lyx 1.6.1

Murat

2009/3/31 rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com:
 Piero Faustini wrote:

 Some more details if this can help you helping me!

 I tried different exports:
 - Latex always works perfect (Alleluja!)
 - HTML works
 - HTML (Word) crashes LyX (And doesn't work): a bunch of seconds after
 execute command htlatex... the graphics of GUI disappear and the LyX
 instance can't be recovered.



 Obviously, LyX should not crash.

 - text works
 - text ps2ascii works (but with loads of garbage)
 - I can remember that sometimes OOo conversion crashed - or gave errors -
 and didn't work (but as I can remember, it was prior to LyX 1.6.1)



 It sounds very much as it the problem is with htlatex, since that is what
 does BOTH the HTML (Word) conversion and the OOo conversion. Again, though,
 LyX should not crash, in any event.

 rh





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Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:

I did the proposed edits to http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists. Please view 
and comment.


Looks good, thanks.
Christian


Günter





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Re: Wiki: module exchange

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

I noticed a hint in one of the messages here that led me to discover a 
user-supplied module on the wiki: http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/Enumitem.  I had 
to do a search to find it, though.


We have a page on the wiki for sharing layouts and tips about layouts. It 
might be a good idea to start a similar page for exchanging modules and tips 
about them.  Sadly, I have negative idle time (but positive stress) at the 
moment, so I can't follow up on my own suggestion.


What's a module?

/Christian

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Web site, wiki site and file uploads now working

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Ridderström

Hi,

I think that we now have more or less successfully migrated the web site, 
the wiki site and the ability to upload files to the new server. The only 
thing not fully operational at the moment is bugzilla.lyx.org. For issues, 
please see

http://www.lyx.org/trac/report

As for the web and the wiki, they should be fully operational so please 
report anything that isn't working.


cheers,
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Re: quoting an enumerated environment: is it possible?

2009-03-31 Thread Stefano Franchi
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 13:37:27 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Stefano Franchi wrote:
  1.  add additional indents, as the quotation environment would do, or
  2. use enumerate environments but add quotation marks outside the
  numbered paragraphs figures

 See the attached document.

 Jürgen

Thanks Jürgen,

that solves the problem. Can I ask you to explain what you did, so I can 
understand the solution and replicate it myself?

In the first solution, what did you insert after the beginning of the quote 
environment and before the beginning of the enumerate environment? All I see 
in LyX is an empty red rectangle, and the LaTex source window shows a 
completely empty line. 


In the second solution, I understand the \setcounter part, but what is the 
meaning  of the open and close brackets as ERT?

Thanks,

S.


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Re: quoting an enumerated environment: is it possible?

2009-03-31 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Stefano Franchi wrote:

 that solves the problem. Can I ask you to explain what you did, so I can
 understand the solution and replicate it myself?

Sure.

 In the first solution, what did you insert after the beginning of the
 quote environment and before the beginning of the enumerate environment?
 All I see in LyX is an empty red rectangle, and the LaTex source window
 shows a completely empty line.

I have inserted an empty ERT into a quote environment (this is the red 
rectangle). Its purpose is only to keep the environment (if the quote 
paragraph was empty, LyX would just delete it). A note inset would probably 
do as well. This generates
\begin{quote}

In the next part, I inserted the enumeration, and I nested it into the quote 
environment (EditIncrease List Depth). The purpose was to have the 
enumeration environment nested into the empty quote environment. I.e.,

\begin{quote}
\begin{enumeration}
\item foo
\item bar
\end{enumerate}
\end{quote}

 In the second solution, I understand the \setcounter part, but what is the
 meaning  of the open and close brackets as ERT?

This is the optional argument of the enumeration item, in LaTeX

\item[``1.] foo

In the optional argument, you can set an alternative enumeration label, so 
the label is ``1. instead of just 1.
The setcounter part is needed, because the counter needs to be increased 
(otherwise, the second item would start with 1.

Regards,
Jürgen




Re: quoting an enumerated environment: is it possible?

2009-03-31 Thread Stefano Franchi
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 16:19:02 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Stefano Franchi wrote:
  that solves the problem. Can I ask you to explain what you did, so I can
  understand the solution and replicate it myself?

 Sure.

  In the first solution, what did you insert after the beginning of the
  quote environment and before the beginning of the enumerate environment?
  All I see in LyX is an empty red rectangle, and the LaTex source window
  shows a completely empty line.

 I have inserted an empty ERT into a quote environment (this is the red
 rectangle). Its purpose is only to keep the environment (if the quote
 paragraph was empty, LyX would just delete it). A note inset would probably
 do as well. This generates
 \begin{quote}

 In the next part, I inserted the enumeration, and I nested it into the
 quote environment (EditIncrease List Depth). The purpose was to have the
 enumeration environment nested into the empty quote environment. I.e.,

 \begin{quote}
 \begin{enumeration}
 \item foo
 \item bar
 \end{enumerate}
 \end{quote}

  In the second solution, I understand the \setcounter part, but what is
  the meaning  of the open and close brackets as ERT?

 This is the optional argument of the enumeration item, in LaTeX

 \item[``1.] foo

 In the optional argument, you can set an alternative enumeration label, so
 the label is ``1. instead of just 1.
 The setcounter part is needed, because the counter needs to be increased
 (otherwise, the second item would start with 1.

 Regards,
 Jürgen

Thanks a lot Jürgen. Now it is all clear and I can already start using yor 
suggestions as well as  tweaking them to fit my needs. 
I must say, the trick that fools LyX with an empty ERT box is pretty slick!

Cheers,

S. 

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Re: [BUG] 1.6.2 handling of graphics paths

2009-03-31 Thread Jason K Howlett
So I've noticed that LyX 1.6.1 comes with dv2dt.exe and that it runs 
clean_dvi.py. LyX 1.6.2 does not come with dv2dt and doesn't appear to run 
clean_dvi.py. Why the change?

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Re: interface questions: navigator and view source

2009-03-31 Thread BH
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Vincent.


1. When I first launched Lyx 1.6.2, the view source window
was at the bottom of the main Lyx window. I clicked on the
button to make it move to its own separate window. Now I'd
like the view source window to move back into the main LyX
window, but I can't find a way to do that.

 It should dock automatically when you move it close to a border of the
 LyX window.

 That doesn't work, at least not in my installation on OS X.

Hmm It works for me (OS X 10.5, Intel). Are you sure?

What about toolbars: you should be able to grab them and move them
around the window -- to the top, bottom, left, and right sides, or
drag them off the window to be a floating palette. Does that work?

Bennett


Re: Wiki: module exchange

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:


Christian Ridderström schreef:

 On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

  I noticed a hint in one of the messages here that led me to discover a 
  user-supplied module on the wiki: http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/Enumitem.  I 
  had to do a search to find it, though.
 
  We have a page on the wiki for sharing layouts and tips about layouts. 
  It might be a good idea to start a similar page for exchanging modules 
  and tips about them.  Sadly, I have negative idle time (but positive 
  stress) at the moment, so I can't follow up on my own suggestion.


 What's a module?

 /Christian


Uhhh


It's an honest question, really!  We're on the users' list, so I persist 
that there are no (well, only very few) stupid questions!


To put the question in context, I'm trying to figure out a good place for 
such a wiki page. Pleaes contribute now Vincent! ;-)


/Christian

And maybe it's time I read the documentation again...


Vincent



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Re: Wiki: module exchange

2009-03-31 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn

Christian Ridderström schreef:

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

I noticed a hint in one of the messages here that led me to discover 
a user-supplied module on the wiki: 
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/Enumitem.  I had to do a search to find it, 
though.


We have a page on the wiki for sharing layouts and tips about 
layouts. It might be a good idea to start a similar page for 
exchanging modules and tips about them.  Sadly, I have negative idle 
time (but positive stress) at the moment, so I can't follow up on my 
own suggestion.


What's a module?

/Christian


Uhhh

Vincent


Re: Wiki: module exchange

2009-03-31 Thread rgheck

Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:


Christian Ridderström schreef:

 On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

  I noticed a hint in one of the messages here that led me to 
discover a   user-supplied module on the wiki: 
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/Enumitem.  I   had to do a search to find 
it, though.
   We have a page on the wiki for sharing layouts and tips about 
layouts.   It might be a good idea to start a similar page for 
exchanging modules   and tips about them.  Sadly, I have negative 
idle time (but positive   stress) at the moment, so I can't follow 
up on my own suggestion.


 What's a module?

 /Christian


Uhhh


It's an honest question, really!  We're on the users' list, so I 
persist that there are no (well, only very few) stupid questions!


To put the question in context, I'm trying to figure out a good place 
for such a wiki page. Pleaes contribute now Vincent! ;-)


Modules are little fragments of layout that can be used in different 
documents. See under DocumentSettingsModules. It could go next to the 
pages to do with layout.


rh



enumerated environment in beamer: is it possible?

2009-03-31 Thread 李猛
Hi,all.
In the enumerate environment, I want to continue the number of order from
last frame. like:
Slide
1.
2.
New slide
3.
4.
how can I do this?
 The \setcounter{enumi}{3} don't work in lyx?

Thanks a lot!
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Re: Problem with PSTricks an LYX

2009-03-31 Thread Florian Rubach

Jorge Mario Garcia schrieb:

Good morning
My problem is:
I want to use the command

  \readdata{\funcion}{dtos2.txt}

 but LYX creates a temporary file where you saved the *. tex, the problem is
that my file dtos2.txt not is in the  same folder and lyx generates an
error.

I try to include it as an attachment, but LyX formats are already in place
and do not let me, and shows an error.

Can you help me?

Have you tried to give an absolute path to your file?

Regards,
Florian


feature request

2009-03-31 Thread Stefano Baroni
Hi All! I understand that in LyX it is not possible to start the  
numbering in an enumearte environment other than from one. Right? If  
this is the case, it would be extremely useful to have the possibility  
of starting from any value, without tweaking the LaTeX code (which I  
did). A common instance where such a feature would be helpful is in  
preparing written exam tests. The various questions of the text should  
be enumerated sequentually, but they are often separated by some text  
whose paragraphs ought not be numbered. Thanks for the beautiful  
software and the wonderful feedback from/to the users' community -  
Stefano Baroni


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Re: new user

2009-03-31 Thread Doug Laidlaw
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 7:36:10 am Paul Sutton wrote:
 Hi

 I am fairly new to lyx and latex,  so far its pretty good I have figured
 out how to do citations and chemical formulas etc,  which is much easier
 than using a word processor for such tasks.

 I have been trying to work on a nicely formatted document to list all
 the command (key bindings) for the joe command reference on lyx under
 ubuntu 8.10. lyx 1.5.6.

 This is for the linux documentation project, so I have done a similar
 document just need to update it, which is what I am using lyx for

 I put all the data in tables,  but I think this was a bad idea, as the
 newlines etc are causing problems,  what I want to go back to is a
 document without all the table tags in,  so it just lists what was in
 the table in the lyx document

 things like

 ^BLeft^F  Right
 ^PUp  ^N  Down


 right now this is in a table, but I want it not in a table, I can't seem
 to find out how to highlight the table and just remove it,

 the code for the above is

 \begin{tabular}{|c|c|c|c|}
 \hline
 \textasciicircum{}B  Left  \textasciicircum{}F  Right\tabularnewline
 \hline
 \hline
 \textasciicircum{}P  Up  \textasciicircum{}N  Down\tabularnewline
 \hline
 \end{tabular}\begin{tabular}{|c|c|}
 \hline
 \textasciicircum{}Z  Previous Word\tabularnewline
 \hline
 \hline
 \textasciicircum{}X  Next Word\tabularnewline
 \hline
 \end{tabular}

 so there has to be a way to undo the table bit.  Even if its a perl or
 bash script that I can run on the file and have it remove the
 appropriate code.

 thanks for any help.

 Paul Sutton

Do you want to remove the table structure, or just the cell boundary lines?  I 
can't help you either way, but the answer may depend on this.

Doug.


Re: feature request

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-31, Stefano Baroni wrote:

 it would be extremely useful to have the possibility =20=
 of starting from any value, without tweaking the LaTeX code

This is possible with the enumitem module which you can download from the
LyX wiki (http://wiki.lyx.org).

Günter



Re: new user

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-31, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 March 2009 7:36:10 am Paul Sutton wrote:

 I put all the data in tables,  but I think this was a bad idea, as the
 newlines etc are causing problems,  what I want to go back to is a
 document without all the table tags in,  so it just lists what was in
 the table in the lyx document

Maybe export as text helps?

Günter



Re: Search for Environment?

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-30, Steve Litt wrote:

 For years, Microsoft Word has had something that would be cool in LyX
 --- search for environment (or charstyle). I just found myself
 wondering if I had redundant copies of a story in my book, and so
 wanted to search for all text in Story environment, but there's no way
 to do it as far as I can tell.

You can use the grep command on the source file to find all Story
environments and you can use Search in a text editor on the source file
to go to the places.

Not nice but practical.

Günter



Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Nikos Alexandris nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de writes:
 Don't you really start a new thread by changing the subject? I this is
 the case, the information is still not organised/concentrated in one
 place as it should be.

Smart mail readers do not use the subject only to see threads.

JMarc


Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-29, Piero Faustini wrote:

 I wonder why could not these discussions been moved to a forum. I mean,
 the discussion list is great but is very hard to use for common users.

Because most people here want it as it is. And many people on this list
regard themselfs common users.

 (I use GMANE for writing/browsing but I still receive daily updates in
 my mailbox).

If you don't want these, you can unsubscribe from the list and use
GMANE exclusively (I do).

 A forum-like interface like Nabble would be much better 

http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists#toc4 says:

  Alternately, if you prefer a forum-like web-based interface to the
  users' list, check us out on our `Nabble page
  http://www.nabble.com/LyX---Users-f28347.html`_ [nabble.com]. 

so this seems possible (it did not work for me, endless loading and no
content shown).

 There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's not as active as this 
 discussion list; 

So it seems not so many common users prefer the forum.
Also, it seems odd to split the ressources. The most impressive thing
about this list is that you get fast and to-the-point response from
power users and developers. And these seem to have a strong preference
for the mail list (much faster working once set up). An easily
accessible forum without competent help would be sensless.


 anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something for this
 list in Nabble and then didn't get the answers because they didn't 
 know Nabble don't post messages not posted directly there.

So the link to Nabble should either be augmented with an
explanation/warning or just removed.


I agree that a side-bar link saying Mailing Lists / Forum can raise
expectations that are not met by linked page http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists.

IMO, this page should contain a section 

Web interfaces / Forum
--

that points to the web based GMANE interface 
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general
(and maybe the Nabble as well with a description on how to post there).

Günter



Re: new user

2009-03-31 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Paul Sutton wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi

I am fairly new to lyx and latex,  so far its pretty good I have figured
out how to do citations and chemical formulas etc,  which is much easier
than using a word processor for such tasks.

I have been trying to work on a nicely formatted document to list all
the command (key bindings) for the joe command reference on lyx under
ubuntu 8.10. lyx 1.5.6.

This is for the linux documentation project, so I have done a similar
document just need to update it, which is what I am using lyx for   

I put all the data in tables,  but I think this was a bad idea, as the
newlines etc are causing problems,  what I want to go back to is a
document without all the table tags in,  so it just lists what was in
the table in the lyx document

things like

^B  Left^F  Right
^P  Up  ^N  Down


right now this is in a table, but I want it not in a table, I can't seem
to find out how to highlight the table and just remove it,


Just copy and paste the full table into a text editor. This will give 
you a nicely tab separated table.

Then you can just delete the table in LyX.

Abdel.



Re: Where is the standard installerfür Lyx 1.6.2-1?

2009-03-31 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
 I changed the download section of www.lyx.org so that we now only refer to
 the ftp site and not to special filenames. This prevents further problems
 when an installer is not available or a bug was fixed in the installer so
 that there is a new filename for it. OK with you Jürgen?

I saw the change and I can live with that, since it makes things easier for 
us if some installer is yet missing (as we had now), and I also do not see 
the need to make yours un-official. However, I see the concerns that 
people like to have some kind of one-click-installation. For Mac, we link to 
one specific binary (of several possibilities), so we probably have to 
decide for a uniform way.

Maybe we can add two links (one to Joost's installer, one to yours), and 
then indicate if one of both is still the old version?

Jürgen




source view empty

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
When I tried today to look at the LaTeX source with ViewSource, the field
stays empty and the tick-boxes (completer source and automatic update) are
greyed out.
  I cannot remember any change since the last time it
worked. The console window where I started lyx does not show any error.

This is with LyX 1.6.2-svn, while my 1.6.1 version shows the source as usual.

Did anyone else experience this problem? Is there a known remedy?

Günter



RE: source view empty

2009-03-31 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW

When I tried today to look at the LaTeX source with ViewSource, the
field stays empty and the tick-boxes (completer source and automatic
update) are greyed out.
  I cannot remember any change since the last time it worked. The
console window where I started lyx does not show any error.

This is with LyX 1.6.2-svn, while my 1.6.1 version shows the source
as usual.

Did anyone else experience this problem? Is there a known remedy?

Günter


I have the same with 1.6.2.. I've no clue what happened..

Vincent



LyX - rtf, doc or openoffice convert: ONCE AGAIN

2009-03-31 Thread Piero Faustini
Hello,
I hate to re-open this subject, but I've still NEVER been able to convert a 
Hello world doc to RTF, OOo, Word Doc or whatever, and I use LyX since 1.5.0 
version (now 1.6.2).
So this message is just for those who till yesterday never could export and 
then found the light with some tweak.
I read a thousand ways to do it and tried some, reinstalled converters, 
tweaked, manually did it etc. NOTHING. So, for a matter of time, I will not 
rely on old posts if they're not proven to be working at least by the users 
they tried to help, to whom this message is addressed.
From what I understood, the problem is not OS-related (I use winXP anyway) and 
relates to a bunch of people who report almost the same.
in my case, if using the export  oo menu command:
- the conversion take quite a long time (for an article with hello world), 
more or less same time of compiling one of my quite complex 150 pages doc (with 
3 LaTeX runs).
- the result is a .odt with a kb size proportional to the (converted) content 
- (opened with OOo 3) the content is not shown and the only difference with a a 
blank doc seems to be that right margin is zero.

(If this can help, I also have never been able to fully compile with LaTeX a 
.tex file with bibtex bibliography, because LaTeX/BibTeX can't locate any .bib 
file wherever I put them, so both could be problems of paths or similar - this 
seems also to be an old users problem)

I could stand (of course) a manual way, if it is reported to work with 
problematic users like me ;)

Thanks, and sorry if RE-RE-RE-RE-POST

Piero



Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Manveru
2009/3/31 Nikos Alexandris nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de:
 On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote:

  when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark
  ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big
  drawback.

 When I ask a question and then either am giving an answer or figure one out, 
 I
 reply one more time to the thread and append SOLVED to the subject. That's
 a pretty commonly known technique recommended by ESR:

 http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#followup

 But all too few people choose to use it.


 Thanks Steve. I didn't know it works like that.

 Don't you really start a new thread by changing the subject? I this is
 the case, the information is still not organised/concentrated in one
 place as it should be.

It should work in a way that Steve describe but often works like Nikos
said. I my case when you change the subject GMAIL treats that message
as new thread, that is way I do not like changing subjects.

I do not know who can I bomb with a feature request for more
intelligent thread merge for messages from discussion lists. There is
special marker in message headers to do that - GMAIL ignores that.
That's a shame bug.

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RE: collecting items

2009-03-31 Thread Pol
Micha Feigin wrote:

 If it's lyx or latex documents you can just copy and paste. Lyx will work
 as is. Latex math you need to either paste into an existing math block or
 paste as normal text, then select the math parts and press Ctrl-M to
 create a math block of the text.

Yes, they are all lyx documents. 
My trick is to collect most of math questions in one file, so as to be able
to pick up what is needed, when preparing a new doc. 

A different solution  would be to store each math question or expression in
distinct lyx document. Then, desired items could be included into your doc
through the 'input' instruction.  But i have never tried.


Thank you
---P




Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Manveru
2009/3/30 Paul A. Rubin ru...@msu.edu:
[...]
 One advantage that I think a forum might have over the current list/group
 structure is that on most forums (at least the forums I visit), I can scroll
 down a thread and see all the message text in one gulp.  With a long thread,
 such as this one, I need to access each message separately to read it, and
 I'm much too lazy for that.

:-) That is advantage of GMAIL that you can do that, in opposite to
lack of proper tracking when message arrives with changed subject :-(

I would like to see at least manual joining of message into threads.
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Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote:


I agree that a side-bar link saying Mailing Lists / Forum can raise
expectations that are not met by linked page http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists.

IMO, this page should contain a section


I sent the password for editing the web page to Guenter off-list, so maybe 
we'll see improvement on this page:-)


/Christian

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RE: source view empty

2009-03-31 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
 

When I tried today to look at the LaTeX source with ViewSource, the 
field stays empty and the tick-boxes (completer source and automatic
update) are greyed out.
  I cannot remember any change since the last time it worked. The 
console window where I started lyx does not show any error.

This is with LyX 1.6.2-svn, while my 1.6.1 version shows the source as 
usual.

Did anyone else experience this problem? Is there a known remedy?

Günter


I have the same with 1.6.2.. I've no clue what happened..


Are you on Windows ?

If so, deleting the following key from the registry solves the problem:

HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-2082945442-480271342-340043625-47002\Software\LyX\LyX-1.6.2\views\0\view-source

Vincent



Re: LyX - rtf, doc or openoffice convert: ONCE AGAIN

2009-03-31 Thread Piero Faustini
Some more details if this can help you helping me!

I tried different exports:
- Latex always works perfect (Alleluja!)
- HTML works
- HTML (Word) crashes LyX (And doesn't work): a bunch of seconds after execute 
command htlatex... the graphics of GUI disappear and the LyX instance can't be 
recovered.
- text works
- text ps2ascii works (but with loads of garbage)
- I can remember that sometimes OOo conversion crashed - or gave errors - and 
didn't work (but as I can remember, it was prior to LyX 1.6.1)
- As now it always seems to work but with the result described above in my 
previous message.

I can't remember more details on my experiments in LyX direct conversion, but I 
can execute some debugging if someone can direct me. (and I'm thinking about 
developers: this little bug could be very annoying for new and average users, 
so feel free to use my body for your experiments!)

Thanks!

Piero



How to mark text for operations in 1.6.2?

2009-03-31 Thread Anthony Campbell
In earlier versions of lyx I could mark lines or longer sections of text
using Shift+Right-arrow. This no longer works in 1.6.2 and I have to use the
mouse, which is less satisfactory. Is there any way to recapture the
earlier behaviour? Or is it a bug?

Anthony

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Re: Where is the standard installerfür Lyx 1.6.2-1?

2009-03-31 Thread Manveru
2009/3/31 Jürgen Spitzmüller j.spitzmuel...@gmx.de:
 Uwe Stöhr wrote:
 I changed the download section of www.lyx.org so that we now only refer to
 the ftp site and not to special filenames. This prevents further problems
 when an installer is not available or a bug was fixed in the installer so
 that there is a new filename for it. OK with you Jürgen?

 I saw the change and I can live with that, since it makes things easier for
 us if some installer is yet missing (as we had now), and I also do not see
 the need to make yours un-official. However, I see the concerns that
 people like to have some kind of one-click-installation. For Mac, we link to
 one specific binary (of several possibilities), so we probably have to
 decide for a uniform way.

 Maybe we can add two links (one to Joost's installer, one to yours), and
 then indicate if one of both is still the old version?

I do not know how the engine below LyX main web page is advanced, but
maybe it could check FTP once again and link automatically to latest
binaries of WinInstaller and AltInstaller.


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Re: beamer with default settings is ugly

2009-03-31 Thread Helge Hafting

Neal Becker wrote:

Maybe, except then there is no indication of links at all.  I think it would 
be best to just get rid of boxes on navigation symbols.


Indication isn't necessary in all cases.
If I hold a presentation using LyX-generated PDF, then I know that every 
reference in the document, such as TOC items and URLs, are clickable.


Helge Hafting


Re: source view empty

2009-03-31 Thread G. Milde
On 31.03.09, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:

 When I tried today to look at the LaTeX source with ViewSource, the 
 field stays empty and the tick-boxes (complete source and automatic
 update) are greyed out.

 Did anyone else experience this problem? Is there a known remedy?
 
 I have the same with 1.6.2.. I've no clue what happened..

 Are you on Windows ?

 If so, deleting the following key from the registry solves the problem:

 HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-2082945442-480271342-340043625-47002\Software\LyX\LyX-1.6.2\views\0\view-source

No, I am on Unix (Debian Gnu/Linux). But I found that removing the file
~/.config/LyX/LyX-1.6.2.conf did the trick (with the unwanted side-effect
of restoring window size and toolbar visibility to the defaults).
Changing

 0\view-source\autoupdate=false
 
to 

 0\view-source\autoupdate=true 
 
helped without side effects.

Furthermore, I found the reason: You can reproduce the bug if you untick
both, complete source and autoupdate in the source view window.

Günter


Re: Search for Environment?

2009-03-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 02:45:54 am Guenter Milde wrote:
 On 2009-03-30, Steve Litt wrote:
  For years, Microsoft Word has had something that would be cool in LyX
  --- search for environment (or charstyle). I just found myself
  wondering if I had redundant copies of a story in my book, and so
  wanted to search for all text in Story environment, but there's no way
  to do it as far as I can tell.

 You can use the grep command on the source file to find all Story
 environments and you can use Search in a text editor on the source file
 to go to the places.

 Not nice but practical.

 GÃŧnter

:-) Yes, that's what I do now, but then you need to find the corresponding 
text in LyX, so you search first with grep or Vim, and then you search again 
in LyX.

SteveT

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Re: LyX Forum?

2009-03-31 Thread Piero Faustini
Manveru manv...@... writes:

 I do not know who can I bomb with a feature request for more
 intelligent thread merge for messages from discussion lists. There is
 special marker in message headers to do that - GMAIL ignores that.
 That's a shame bug.

It's me who casted a evil spell on the Mailing List, or what?
GMANE since yesterday started to behave exactly as you told GMAIL does: now the 
thread I started is split in several ones!!! In Italy I would be called a 
menagramo (something like bad luck antenna) and banned from human society.
To our (serious) discussion: Manveru, I hope you didn't feel negative 
vibrations in my criticism to your answer, in fact I found it very polite and 
constructive.
I tried to express a need that I think could be the *silent* majority's one, 
without, as someone requested, give data on it but based on what I can see 
today in the internet and in my department of History.
For instance, I would like to convert to LyX my supervisor (we are 
musicologists) which is, in his 55, a great academic and an exceptionally 
opened and curious mind. But his relationship with the IT is much more similar 
to my 19y old sister's one than to any other person here, and I'm sure he's NO 
exception in our humanistic field, being the IT and computers pros (and much 
much much more the old way pros) THE rare exceptions in departments similar 
to mine. If some researcher in my Faculty uses the internet in order to look 
for information, no matter his age, he uses it in the same way of a 15 years 
old boy, *** because they started using it at the same moment. And I guess we 
can't call him a neostrada child.
Arguments that claims forum is not good enough because the only existing LyX 
forum has just a few contributors is too much similar to saying why caring 
about public transport? Nobody uses it!: public transport will be efficient, 
fast, reliable, cheap and widely used when cars will be banned and money 
inverted in it, NOT and NEVER before. In the same way, until the best LyX 
contributors and LyX helping hands use mailing lists, any forum will be almost 
useless. In fact, I don't use it, just reply once in a while to stuck people 
about very very simple things.  
With this, I don't want to force anyone in changing its habits. On the other 
hand, thanks to people like you I understood the advantages and philosophy of 
lists, although new and basic LyX users are still unlikely to have an easy 
first access to this very one. If there's something I can do to make it a bit 
easier for them (most of all because I've been recently in the same trouble), 
please tell me.
Piero

P.S. One thing could be to add to the ml/forum page a link to

 http://www.latex-community.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19 

for newbies specifying that ML is much better to ask for more than basic 
issues. Similar links to other language specific forums (if existing) could be 
even better if we recommend to come back to ML once issues grow serious.

*** Jstor or similars turned out to be really interesting for humanists not 
more than a bunch of months ago



Re: Search for Environment?

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-31, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 March 2009 02:45:54 am Guenter Milde wrote:

:-) Yes, that's what I do now, but then you need to find the corresponding 
 text in LyX, so you search first with grep or Vim, and then you search again 
 in LyX.

Actually, I do the grep in my text editor and then jump to the line in the
text editor as well (fine with simple text, not so nice with rich text or
equations).

I am still waiting for a lfun that allows opening a lyx file and place
the cursor to the (at least approximate) position of a given line.

Unfortunately, server-goto-file-row does not do this (instead it goes
to the place indicated by the row in the exported latex source file).

Günter



Re: How to mark text for operations in 1.6.2?

2009-03-31 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-31, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 In earlier versions of lyx I could mark lines or longer sections of text
 using Shift+Right-arrow. This no longer works in 1.6.2 and I have to use the
 mouse, which is less satisfactory. Is there any way to recapture the
 earlier behaviour? Or is it a bug?

It works here (1.6.2svn on Linux). 
Does Shift+Left-Arrow or Shift+End work?

You might try to (re)set the keybinding with ToolsSettings.

Günter



Re: How to mark text for operations in 1.6.2?

2009-03-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk writes:

 In earlier versions of lyx I could mark lines or longer sections of text
 using Shift+Right-arrow. This no longer works in 1.6.2 and I have to use the
 mouse, which is less satisfactory. Is there any way to recapture the
 earlier behaviour? Or is it a bug?

You probably have a local bind file that does not work anymore. I am
afraid you have to get rid of it (or change the function names using the
information in the RELEASE-NOTES file).

JMarc


Re: How to mark text for operations in 1.6.2?

2009-03-31 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 31 Mar 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk writes:
 
  In earlier versions of lyx I could mark lines or longer sections of text
  using Shift+Right-arrow. This no longer works in 1.6.2 and I have to use the
  mouse, which is less satisfactory. Is there any way to recapture the
  earlier behaviour? Or is it a bug?
 
 You probably have a local bind file that does not work anymore. I am
 afraid you have to get rid of it (or change the function names using the
 information in the RELEASE-NOTES file).
 
 JMarc

Thanks to both for replies. Having read the RELEASE-NOTES as suggested I
found I had to follow the advice to move my ~/.lyx directory aside and
let lyx remake it, after which the function returned.

Anthony

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