Re: Help with minitoc and multi-file document

2009-04-10 Thread Hubert Christiaen
On vrijdag 10 april 2009, Stefano Franchi wrote:
  would like each chapter to begin with a toc for the chapter. The problem I
 cannot seem able to solve is: where do I put the \minitoc command(s)? I
 tried:

 a. in the master document, just before the input command
 b. in the master document, just before the chapter sectioning environment
 c. in the subdocument, just before the first section
 d. any combination of a, b, and c I could think of.

First, a \dominitoc must be inserted at the top of the master document

Then a \minitoc at the place where you want the minitoc to appear.

For unnumbered sections (section* environment) which must be inserted in the 
TOC or minitoc, the command \addstarredchapter{...} must be entered at the 
beginning of the starred section.

It works fine with me.

Sincerely,
Hubert

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Re: problem inserting .pdf as external material

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Giovanni wrote:
 It's possible to have the content inserted in line, as a paragraph?

Not with pdfpages. You need to insert the PDF as a graphic to get this.

Jürgen


problem: the text overflow the page

2009-04-10 Thread c. helder
I think that the best if I give a example:
195purple_prefs_add_string(/plugins/core/language_change/language,
default);

In this case, the end of the sentence isn't showed in the above line. Lyx
cut it. The end of the sentence don't appear in any place.


Sorry because of my english and thanks for any help. Carlos.


Spellchecker Chokes on Language Latex

2009-04-10 Thread rgheck

Rich Shepard wrote:
In all the years I've used LyX I've never seen this before: while 
checking

the spelling of my document, a message box popped up reading, The
spellchecker has failed. No word lists can be found for the language
'latex'.

The last word checked (which I had added to my personal spelling
dictionary was 'www' in the URL for our web site.

How strange!

This is a bug. The language has been set to latex, which I think needs 
to be done for some reason, and of course the spellchecker isn't going 
to find that.


Cross-posting to devel

rh



Re: okular dvi viewer failed in lyx

2009-04-10 Thread rgheck

Russell Davie wrote:

Hi All
I just installed Lyx 1.6.1 and tested out the dvi viewer on intro.lyx.
The default dvi viewer, okular, came up and then crashed.

A Fatal Error Occurred
The application Okular (okular) crashed and caused the signal 11
(SIGSEGV).

Lyx stayed open.

OS: Ubuntu 8.10
default dvi viewer: okular

this happens with kdvi as well.

okular and kdvi works with other dvi I have, but not the dvi lyx makes.

also when changing the dvi viewer preference in 
Tools - Preferences - file formats - DVI 
from xdg-open to xdiv, xdvi opens but presents a blank page.

If the window size of xdvi is re-sized to a fraction smaller, the text appears.

any help appreciated

  
This is very strange. Try exporting DVI and then opening it. If that 
works, then something is happening with the call from inside LyX.


rh



Re: Spellchecker Chokes on Language Latex

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, rgheck wrote:


This is a bug.


  Oh. Not a new feature of 1.6.2? :-)


The language has been set to latex, which I think needs to be done for
some reason, and of course the spellchecker isn't going to find that.

Cross-posting to devel


  Thank you.

  FWIW, I killed the lyx process, then restarted the application. Since the
cursor was positioned at the point after the 'www' that seemed to upset the
spelling checker, the rest of the checking worked as expected.

  The bug seems to appear when checking the web site URL in the top portion
of the obverse of the title page.

Rich

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Re: problem: the text overflow the page

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, c. helder wrote:


I think that the best if I give a example:
195purple_prefs_add_string(/plugins/core/language_change/language,
default);

In this case, the end of the sentence isn't showed in the above line. Lyx
cut it. The end of the sentence don't appear in any place.


  If I correctly understand what you are asking, you have an overfull
horizontal line. The text continues into the right margin and is truncated.
Is this correct?

  You have three approaches to fixing this. If the typeface is the normal
for body text, then rewrite the sentence to change the word order (or
shorten it), or add a LaTeX hint to help the TeX engine to properly
hyphenate words so the line can be continued on the following line.

  If you are using the code environment, then you need to manually reformat
your code so it displays on multiple lines.

Hope this helps,

Rich

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shift-arrow selection

2009-04-10 Thread Nils Becker
Hi,

I am writing to ask whether this is a bug:

When editing text or math, in previous versions of lyx I often used
shift-rightarrow or shift-leftarrow to select text letter by letter.
This does not work for me anymore on lyx 1.6.2, mac os x.

(When I press option or command in addition, word-wise selection does
work. )

In case this is just a missing shortcut definition, I think it should be
added to the default.

Cheers, Nils


Re: shift-arrow selection

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Nils Becker wrote:
 When editing text or math, in previous versions of lyx I often used
 shift-rightarrow or shift-leftarrow to select text letter by letter.
 This does not work for me anymore on lyx 1.6.2, mac os x.

Did you read the RELEASE_NOTES?

Caveats when upgrading from earlier versions to 1.6.x
---

- Since several lyx functions have been renamed (see above), old
  configuration files (*.ui, *.bind) may no longer work. If some
  functions (such as Shift-right for selecting text) fail to work
  after the upgrade from previous versions, make sure you do not
  have any old configuration files in your LyX user directory, or
  adapt these files to the new functions. If anything else fails,
  try if deleting your LyX user directory helps.

Jürgen


Installation Problems

2009-04-10 Thread David Harmsworth
Hello,
 
I'm trying to get LyX up and running, but I'm getting the following error 
message:
    
The required file
    tex\latex\ieeetran\IEEEtrans.cls
is missing. It is part of the following package:
    Name: ieeetran
    Title:  Document class for IEEE Transactions
 
I get the same message for a couple of dozen other files.  Most of them don't 
seem to be essential for my purposes, except for this one:
 
  tex/latex/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.sty
 
(I can get LyX to operate, but I can't generate postscript output).
 
I downloaded everything from the Wiki page, using the Installer Bundle: 
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.2/LyX-1.6.2-1-Installer-Bundle.exe,
since I didn't have a LaTeX compiler on my machine to begin with.  Does the 
version of MikTeX in that bundle not contain all the files needed for the 
version of LyX?
 
Thanks for any help you can offer!


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How do I decrease the space between bullets (1.6.2, all settings at default)

2009-04-10 Thread Sophie (itsme213)
Thanks! 





Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

  The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
as Evil Red Text (ERT) has bothered me from the first time I saw it. Since
LyX is a GUI front end to LaTeX I fail to see how there's anything evil
about LaTeX.

  More to the point, looking at how many requests for help in formatting
documents we see on this list involve inserting LaTeX code, the label of ERT
can be off-putting to those new to the tools as well as being highly
inappropriate.

  I'm asking that the term be retired. Better yet, killed and buried deep.
Notice on the icon bar the square that displays TeX and the cursor-hover
hint is Insert TeX code. No more ERT!

Rich

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Re: Installation Problems

2009-04-10 Thread Richard Heck

David Harmsworth wrote:

Hello,
 
I'm trying to get LyX up and running, 

  
The first question is: Can you compile simple documents using article, 
or some other standard class? I'll assume you can. If not, your LaTeX 
installation is completely broken.



but I'm getting the following error message:

The required file

tex\latex\ieeetran\IEEEtrans.cls
is missing. It is part of the following package:
Name: ieeetran
Title:  Document class for IEEE Transactions
 
I get the same message for a couple of dozen other files.  Most of them don't seem to be essential for my purposes, except for this one:
 
  tex/latex/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.sty
 
(I can get LyX to operate, but I can't generate postscript output).
 
I downloaded everything from the Wiki page, using the Installer Bundle: ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.2/LyX-1.6.2-1-Installer-Bundle.exe,

since I didn't have a LaTeX compiler on my machine to begin with.  Does the 
version of MikTeX in that bundle not contain all the files needed for the 
version of LyX?
 
  
Neither this installer, nor any other, installs absolutely every LaTeX 
file someone might want to use with LyX. It's the job of your LaTeX 
installation to deal with that. In your case, that's apparently MikTeX, 
and my understanding was that it  should install the LaTeX files you 
need on the fly. If it's not doing so, I'd investigate it.


Richard



Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Rich Shepard wrote:
 The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
 as Evil Red Text (ERT) has bothered me from the first time I saw it.

Could you point me to the places in the manuals where this acronym is used? 
AFAIK, it is no official term (anymore). The (English) manuals always use 
TeX mode.

 Since LyX is a GUI front end to LaTeX I fail to see how there's anything
 evil about LaTeX.

It's a joke. Irony. Developers also want to have (a bit of) fun, sometimes.

Jürgen



Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
  The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
  as Evil Red Text (ERT) has bothered me from the first time I saw it.

 Could you point me to the places in the manuals where this acronym is used?
 AFAIK, it is no official term (anymore). The (English) manuals always use
 TeX mode.

If you refer to the button labels: Consider that TeX mode would not be 
appropriate, since in DocBook classes, ERT must contain XML, not (La)TeX.

If you wish, you can decode ERT in the collapsable buttons as Embedded Raw 
Text. 

Jürgen


Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

It's a joke. Irony. Developers also want to have (a bit of) fun, 
sometimes.


I actually like ERT because of how it's a connection to the history of 
LyX and its origins. :-)


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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:


If you wish, you can decode ERT in the collapsable buttons as Embedded
Raw Text.


Juergen,

  That works. :-)

  Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too
difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it. Yes, it's a
complicated markup language, but it's also exceptionally powerful.

  I'll withdraw my request.

Rich

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Re: How do I decrease the space between bullets (1.6.2, all settings at default)

2009-04-10 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
You can use the enumitem package/module, see here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/Enumitem
If for example you don't want extra space between
bullets you can use the option nolistsep. You can also
set specific list separation.



Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Richard Heck

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Rich Shepard wrote:
  

The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
as Evil Red Text (ERT) has bothered me from the first time I saw it.



Could you point me to the places in the manuals where this acronym is used? 
AFAIK, it is no official term (anymore). The (English) manuals always use 
TeX mode.


  

[rgh...@localhost doc]$ pwd
/cvs/lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc
[rgh...@localhost doc]$ grep -iR evil red text * | grep -v .svn
DocStyle.lyx:Evil Red Text
es/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text
eu/Extended.lyx: Komando-mota horiei ERT (Inpernuko Testu Gorria edo 
Evil Red Text) deritze.

Extended.lyx: Such commands are referred to as TeX code, or Evil Red Text.
fr/Extended.lyx:NdT : Evil Red Text
fr/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text
gl/Tutorial.lyx:[N.T] Evil Red Text = Malvado texto vermello.
ja/Extended.lyx: LaTeXコードとしてマークしなければなりません。我々はその 
ようなコマンドを ERT (Evil Red Text)と呼んでいます。AASTeXドキュメントの

pl/Extended.lyx: Such commands are referred to as ERT, or Evil Red Text.

rh



Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Richard Heck wrote:


[rgh...@localhost doc]$ pwd
/cvs/lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc
[rgh...@localhost doc]$ grep -iR evil red text * | grep -v .svn
DocStyle.lyx:Evil Red Text
es/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text
eu/Extended.lyx: Komando-mota horiei ERT (Inpernuko Testu Gorria edo Evil 
Red Text) deritze.

Extended.lyx: Such commands are referred to as TeX code, or Evil Red Text.
fr/Extended.lyx:NdT : Evil Red Text
fr/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text
gl/Tutorial.lyx:[N.T] Evil Red Text = Malvado texto vermello.
ja/Extended.lyx: LaTeX?  ERT (Evil Red 
Text)AASTeX???

pl/Extended.lyx: Such commands are referred to as ERT, or Evil Red Text.


  It also shows up when the cursor is paused over such a box.

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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Friday 10 April 2009 01:33:10 pm Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
  If you wish, you can decode ERT in the collapsable buttons as Embedded
  Raw Text.

 Juergen,

That works. :-)

For me too. Thinking of embedded LaTeX as ERT would have been a hard habit 
for me to break.


Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too
 difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it. 

I don't think that's why it was called evil. The evilness comes from the 
fact that you're formatting, presumably within \mainmatter, in a one-off kind 
of way instead of using environments or character styles. ERT within 
\mainmatter is often an indication of fingerpainting.

I really don't think anyone on this list thought of LaTeX as evil, as long as 
it was in your layout file where it belongs.

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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread curtis osterhoudt
When I first started learning LyX (what -- about 10 years ago?), I very much 
liked the name 'Evil Red Text'. It showed that the developers had a sense of 
humor, and the professionality of the manuals and the program itself was in no 
way impacted (in my mind) with the 'ERT'. A colleague of mine has made the same 
comment to me lately.

  Curtis O.

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From: Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:14:42 AM
Subject: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

  The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
as Evil Red Text (ERT) has bothered me from the first time I saw it. Since
LyX is a GUI front end to LaTeX I fail to see how there's anything evil
about LaTeX.

  More to the point, looking at how many requests for help in formatting
documents we see on this list involve inserting LaTeX code, the label of ERT
can be off-putting to those new to the tools as well as being highly
inappropriate.

  I'm asking that the term be retired. Better yet, killed and buried deep.
Notice on the icon bar the square that displays TeX and the cursor-hover
hint is Insert TeX code. No more ERT!

Rich

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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Freitag 10 April 2009 schrieb Steve Litt:
     Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too
  difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it.

 I don't think that's why it was called evil. The evilness comes from the
 fact that you're formatting, presumably within \mainmatter, in a one-off
 kind of way instead of using environments or character styles. ERT within
 \mainmatter is often an indication of fingerpainting.

 I really don't think anyone on this list thought of LaTeX as evil, as long
 as it was in your layout file where it belongs.

No, it was so named, because it appeared in red in your text.
And evil in the sense, that sometimes you had to use it, although you tried to 
make everything with lyx-commands only.

Kornel



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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread rgheck

Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Freitag 10 April 2009 schrieb Steve Litt:
  

   Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too
difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it.
  

I don't think that's why it was called evil. The evilness comes from the
fact that you're formatting, presumably within \mainmatter, in a one-off
kind of way instead of using environments or character styles. ERT within
\mainmatter is often an indication of fingerpainting.

I really don't think anyone on this list thought of LaTeX as evil, as long
as it was in your layout file where it belongs.



No, it was so named, because it appeared in red in your text.
And evil in the sense, that sometimes you had to use it, although you tried to 
make everything with lyx-commands only.


  

Evil as in necessary evil, I take it.

rh



What has happened with Lyx V1.6.2-1

2009-04-10 Thread Robert Betz
Guys,
 
I am frustrated.  I have installed Lyx using both the Alt version and
also the newly posted installer and have had all sorts of difficulties.

 
Basiscally things that did work on V1.6.1-1 now don't on V1.6.2-1.  For
example with the Alt installer during install it cannot find the Miktex
distribution and the path to it has to be manually set.  Once installed
then when I load up files that have PDF graphics they are not rendered
correctly on the screen — there is a lot of extra space around them.  If
I generate a PDF output file this problem is also retained in the
output. These files work perfectly on the V1.6.1-1, and there is
definitely nothing wrong with the PDF files themselves.  I must admit I
don't understand how any changes made to fix bugs could affect the
operation of this.
 
I thought I would try the recently posted windows installer.  This
installer at least correctly finds the Miktex distribution and sets up
the correct path during the install.  However, when I load up an
existing Lyx file containing EPS diagrams the Lyx environment says that
there is an error in converting to a loadable format and nothing shows
in the Lyx environment. It is not a problem with finding the files, but
somehow calling Ghostscript goes wrong and is generating an error.  I
have checked the paths to the Ghostscript files and they are OK.  Again
these files work perfectly on the previous version.
 
All of the above have been tried on Windows Vista 32bit and Windows XP
x64 systems, and similar problems occur. Therefore I don't believe it is
due to a  problem with the machine configurations.  I have not bothered
looking for other issues, since the above problems alone mean that the
software is unusable (for me anyway).
 
From the user list there appear to be a lot of people using V1.6.2-1,
and I have not seen mention of the problems mentioned above.  I cannot
understand this as the above problems emerge as soon as the software is
installed and one loads existing files containing either PDF diagrams or
EPS diagrams. Therefore from my experience it would seem that there are
major problems with V1.6.2-1.  Based on my experience I would recommend,
at the moment, that users who have EPS or PDF diagrams in their Lyx
files not to use it.
 
If I am totally off the planet with the above problems, or I am doing
something really stupid, please let me know.  I find Lyx a very useful
software product, but unfortunately the latest version has proved to be
a real problem for me.
 
Thanks for putting up with the gripe.
 
 
 


Regards


Bob Betz



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Re: Help with minitoc and multi-file document

2009-04-10 Thread Hubert Christiaen
On vrijdag 10 april 2009, Stefano Franchi wrote:
  would like each chapter to begin with a toc for the chapter. The problem I
 cannot seem able to solve is: where do I put the \minitoc command(s)? I
 tried:

 a. in the master document, just before the input command
 b. in the master document, just before the chapter sectioning environment
 c. in the subdocument, just before the first section
 d. any combination of a, b, and c I could think of.

First, a \dominitoc must be inserted at the top of the master document

Then a \minitoc at the place where you want the minitoc to appear.

For unnumbered sections (section* environment) which must be inserted in the 
TOC or minitoc, the command \addstarredchapter{...} must be entered at the 
beginning of the starred section.

It works fine with me.

Sincerely,
Hubert

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Re: problem inserting .pdf as external material

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Giovanni wrote:
 It's possible to have the content inserted in line, as a paragraph?

Not with pdfpages. You need to insert the PDF as a graphic to get this.

Jürgen


problem: the text overflow the page

2009-04-10 Thread c. helder
I think that the best if I give a example:
195purple_prefs_add_string(/plugins/core/language_change/language,
default);

In this case, the end of the sentence isn't showed in the above line. Lyx
cut it. The end of the sentence don't appear in any place.


Sorry because of my english and thanks for any help. Carlos.


Spellchecker Chokes on Language Latex

2009-04-10 Thread rgheck

Rich Shepard wrote:
In all the years I've used LyX I've never seen this before: while 
checking

the spelling of my document, a message box popped up reading, The
spellchecker has failed. No word lists can be found for the language
'latex'.

The last word checked (which I had added to my personal spelling
dictionary was 'www' in the URL for our web site.

How strange!

This is a bug. The language has been set to latex, which I think needs 
to be done for some reason, and of course the spellchecker isn't going 
to find that.


Cross-posting to devel

rh



Re: okular dvi viewer failed in lyx

2009-04-10 Thread rgheck

Russell Davie wrote:

Hi All
I just installed Lyx 1.6.1 and tested out the dvi viewer on intro.lyx.
The default dvi viewer, okular, came up and then crashed.

A Fatal Error Occurred
The application Okular (okular) crashed and caused the signal 11
(SIGSEGV).

Lyx stayed open.

OS: Ubuntu 8.10
default dvi viewer: okular

this happens with kdvi as well.

okular and kdvi works with other dvi I have, but not the dvi lyx makes.

also when changing the dvi viewer preference in 
Tools - Preferences - file formats - DVI 
from xdg-open to xdiv, xdvi opens but presents a blank page.

If the window size of xdvi is re-sized to a fraction smaller, the text appears.

any help appreciated

  
This is very strange. Try exporting DVI and then opening it. If that 
works, then something is happening with the call from inside LyX.


rh



Re: Spellchecker Chokes on Language Latex

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, rgheck wrote:


This is a bug.


  Oh. Not a new feature of 1.6.2? :-)


The language has been set to latex, which I think needs to be done for
some reason, and of course the spellchecker isn't going to find that.

Cross-posting to devel


  Thank you.

  FWIW, I killed the lyx process, then restarted the application. Since the
cursor was positioned at the point after the 'www' that seemed to upset the
spelling checker, the rest of the checking worked as expected.

  The bug seems to appear when checking the web site URL in the top portion
of the obverse of the title page.

Rich

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Re: problem: the text overflow the page

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, c. helder wrote:


I think that the best if I give a example:
195purple_prefs_add_string(/plugins/core/language_change/language,
default);

In this case, the end of the sentence isn't showed in the above line. Lyx
cut it. The end of the sentence don't appear in any place.


  If I correctly understand what you are asking, you have an overfull
horizontal line. The text continues into the right margin and is truncated.
Is this correct?

  You have three approaches to fixing this. If the typeface is the normal
for body text, then rewrite the sentence to change the word order (or
shorten it), or add a LaTeX hint to help the TeX engine to properly
hyphenate words so the line can be continued on the following line.

  If you are using the code environment, then you need to manually reformat
your code so it displays on multiple lines.

Hope this helps,

Rich

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shift-arrow selection

2009-04-10 Thread Nils Becker
Hi,

I am writing to ask whether this is a bug:

When editing text or math, in previous versions of lyx I often used
shift-rightarrow or shift-leftarrow to select text letter by letter.
This does not work for me anymore on lyx 1.6.2, mac os x.

(When I press option or command in addition, word-wise selection does
work. )

In case this is just a missing shortcut definition, I think it should be
added to the default.

Cheers, Nils


Re: shift-arrow selection

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Nils Becker wrote:
 When editing text or math, in previous versions of lyx I often used
 shift-rightarrow or shift-leftarrow to select text letter by letter.
 This does not work for me anymore on lyx 1.6.2, mac os x.

Did you read the RELEASE_NOTES?

Caveats when upgrading from earlier versions to 1.6.x
---

- Since several lyx functions have been renamed (see above), old
  configuration files (*.ui, *.bind) may no longer work. If some
  functions (such as Shift-right for selecting text) fail to work
  after the upgrade from previous versions, make sure you do not
  have any old configuration files in your LyX user directory, or
  adapt these files to the new functions. If anything else fails,
  try if deleting your LyX user directory helps.

Jürgen


Installation Problems

2009-04-10 Thread David Harmsworth
Hello,
 
I'm trying to get LyX up and running, but I'm getting the following error 
message:
    
The required file
    tex\latex\ieeetran\IEEEtrans.cls
is missing. It is part of the following package:
    Name: ieeetran
    Title:  Document class for IEEE Transactions
 
I get the same message for a couple of dozen other files.  Most of them don't 
seem to be essential for my purposes, except for this one:
 
  tex/latex/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.sty
 
(I can get LyX to operate, but I can't generate postscript output).
 
I downloaded everything from the Wiki page, using the Installer Bundle: 
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.2/LyX-1.6.2-1-Installer-Bundle.exe,
since I didn't have a LaTeX compiler on my machine to begin with.  Does the 
version of MikTeX in that bundle not contain all the files needed for the 
version of LyX?
 
Thanks for any help you can offer!


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Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

  The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
as Evil Red Text (ERT) has bothered me from the first time I saw it. Since
LyX is a GUI front end to LaTeX I fail to see how there's anything evil
about LaTeX.

  More to the point, looking at how many requests for help in formatting
documents we see on this list involve inserting LaTeX code, the label of ERT
can be off-putting to those new to the tools as well as being highly
inappropriate.

  I'm asking that the term be retired. Better yet, killed and buried deep.
Notice on the icon bar the square that displays TeX and the cursor-hover
hint is Insert TeX code. No more ERT!

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Re: Installation Problems

2009-04-10 Thread Richard Heck

David Harmsworth wrote:

Hello,
 
I'm trying to get LyX up and running, 

  
The first question is: Can you compile simple documents using article, 
or some other standard class? I'll assume you can. If not, your LaTeX 
installation is completely broken.



but I'm getting the following error message:

The required file

tex\latex\ieeetran\IEEEtrans.cls
is missing. It is part of the following package:
Name: ieeetran
Title:  Document class for IEEE Transactions
 
I get the same message for a couple of dozen other files.  Most of them don't seem to be essential for my purposes, except for this one:
 
  tex/latex/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.sty
 
(I can get LyX to operate, but I can't generate postscript output).
 
I downloaded everything from the Wiki page, using the Installer Bundle: ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.2/LyX-1.6.2-1-Installer-Bundle.exe,

since I didn't have a LaTeX compiler on my machine to begin with.  Does the 
version of MikTeX in that bundle not contain all the files needed for the 
version of LyX?
 
  
Neither this installer, nor any other, installs absolutely every LaTeX 
file someone might want to use with LyX. It's the job of your LaTeX 
installation to deal with that. In your case, that's apparently MikTeX, 
and my understanding was that it  should install the LaTeX files you 
need on the fly. If it's not doing so, I'd investigate it.


Richard



Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Rich Shepard wrote:
 The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
 as Evil Red Text (ERT) has bothered me from the first time I saw it.

Could you point me to the places in the manuals where this acronym is used? 
AFAIK, it is no official term (anymore). The (English) manuals always use 
TeX mode.

 Since LyX is a GUI front end to LaTeX I fail to see how there's anything
 evil about LaTeX.

It's a joke. Irony. Developers also want to have (a bit of) fun, sometimes.

Jürgen



Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
  The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
  as Evil Red Text (ERT) has bothered me from the first time I saw it.

 Could you point me to the places in the manuals where this acronym is used?
 AFAIK, it is no official term (anymore). The (English) manuals always use
 TeX mode.

If you refer to the button labels: Consider that TeX mode would not be 
appropriate, since in DocBook classes, ERT must contain XML, not (La)TeX.

If you wish, you can decode ERT in the collapsable buttons as Embedded Raw 
Text. 

Jürgen


Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

It's a joke. Irony. Developers also want to have (a bit of) fun, 
sometimes.


I actually like ERT because of how it's a connection to the history of 
LyX and its origins. :-)


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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:


If you wish, you can decode ERT in the collapsable buttons as Embedded
Raw Text.


Juergen,

  That works. :-)

  Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too
difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it. Yes, it's a
complicated markup language, but it's also exceptionally powerful.

  I'll withdraw my request.

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Re: How do I decrease the space between bullets (1.6.2, all settings at default)

2009-04-10 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
You can use the enumitem package/module, see here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/Enumitem
If for example you don't want extra space between
bullets you can use the option nolistsep. You can also
set specific list separation.



Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Richard Heck

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Rich Shepard wrote:
  

The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
as Evil Red Text (ERT) has bothered me from the first time I saw it.



Could you point me to the places in the manuals where this acronym is used? 
AFAIK, it is no official term (anymore). The (English) manuals always use 
TeX mode.


  

[rgh...@localhost doc]$ pwd
/cvs/lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc
[rgh...@localhost doc]$ grep -iR evil red text * | grep -v .svn
DocStyle.lyx:Evil Red Text
es/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text
eu/Extended.lyx: Komando-mota horiei ERT (Inpernuko Testu Gorria edo 
Evil Red Text) deritze.

Extended.lyx: Such commands are referred to as TeX code, or Evil Red Text.
fr/Extended.lyx:NdT : Evil Red Text
fr/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text
gl/Tutorial.lyx:[N.T] Evil Red Text = Malvado texto vermello.
ja/Extended.lyx: LaTeXコードとしてマークしなければなりません。我々はその 
ようなコマンドを ERT (Evil Red Text)と呼んでいます。AASTeXドキュメントの

pl/Extended.lyx: Such commands are referred to as ERT, or Evil Red Text.

rh



Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Richard Heck wrote:


[rgh...@localhost doc]$ pwd
/cvs/lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc
[rgh...@localhost doc]$ grep -iR evil red text * | grep -v .svn
DocStyle.lyx:Evil Red Text
es/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text
eu/Extended.lyx: Komando-mota horiei ERT (Inpernuko Testu Gorria edo Evil 
Red Text) deritze.

Extended.lyx: Such commands are referred to as TeX code, or Evil Red Text.
fr/Extended.lyx:NdT : Evil Red Text
fr/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text
gl/Tutorial.lyx:[N.T] Evil Red Text = Malvado texto vermello.
ja/Extended.lyx: LaTeX?  ERT (Evil Red 
Text)AASTeX???

pl/Extended.lyx: Such commands are referred to as ERT, or Evil Red Text.


  It also shows up when the cursor is paused over such a box.

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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Friday 10 April 2009 01:33:10 pm Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
  If you wish, you can decode ERT in the collapsable buttons as Embedded
  Raw Text.

 Juergen,

That works. :-)

For me too. Thinking of embedded LaTeX as ERT would have been a hard habit 
for me to break.


Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too
 difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it. 

I don't think that's why it was called evil. The evilness comes from the 
fact that you're formatting, presumably within \mainmatter, in a one-off kind 
of way instead of using environments or character styles. ERT within 
\mainmatter is often an indication of fingerpainting.

I really don't think anyone on this list thought of LaTeX as evil, as long as 
it was in your layout file where it belongs.

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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread curtis osterhoudt
When I first started learning LyX (what -- about 10 years ago?), I very much 
liked the name 'Evil Red Text'. It showed that the developers had a sense of 
humor, and the professionality of the manuals and the program itself was in no 
way impacted (in my mind) with the 'ERT'. A colleague of mine has made the same 
comment to me lately.

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From: Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:14:42 AM
Subject: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

  The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
as Evil Red Text (ERT) has bothered me from the first time I saw it. Since
LyX is a GUI front end to LaTeX I fail to see how there's anything evil
about LaTeX.

  More to the point, looking at how many requests for help in formatting
documents we see on this list involve inserting LaTeX code, the label of ERT
can be off-putting to those new to the tools as well as being highly
inappropriate.

  I'm asking that the term be retired. Better yet, killed and buried deep.
Notice on the icon bar the square that displays TeX and the cursor-hover
hint is Insert TeX code. No more ERT!

Rich

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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Freitag 10 April 2009 schrieb Steve Litt:
     Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too
  difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it.

 I don't think that's why it was called evil. The evilness comes from the
 fact that you're formatting, presumably within \mainmatter, in a one-off
 kind of way instead of using environments or character styles. ERT within
 \mainmatter is often an indication of fingerpainting.

 I really don't think anyone on this list thought of LaTeX as evil, as long
 as it was in your layout file where it belongs.

No, it was so named, because it appeared in red in your text.
And evil in the sense, that sometimes you had to use it, although you tried to 
make everything with lyx-commands only.

Kornel



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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread rgheck

Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Freitag 10 April 2009 schrieb Steve Litt:
  

   Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too
difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it.
  

I don't think that's why it was called evil. The evilness comes from the
fact that you're formatting, presumably within \mainmatter, in a one-off
kind of way instead of using environments or character styles. ERT within
\mainmatter is often an indication of fingerpainting.

I really don't think anyone on this list thought of LaTeX as evil, as long
as it was in your layout file where it belongs.



No, it was so named, because it appeared in red in your text.
And evil in the sense, that sometimes you had to use it, although you tried to 
make everything with lyx-commands only.


  

Evil as in necessary evil, I take it.

rh



What has happened with Lyx V1.6.2-1

2009-04-10 Thread Robert Betz
Guys,
 
I am frustrated.  I have installed Lyx using both the Alt version and
also the newly posted installer and have had all sorts of difficulties.

 
Basiscally things that did work on V1.6.1-1 now don't on V1.6.2-1.  For
example with the Alt installer during install it cannot find the Miktex
distribution and the path to it has to be manually set.  Once installed
then when I load up files that have PDF graphics they are not rendered
correctly on the screen — there is a lot of extra space around them.  If
I generate a PDF output file this problem is also retained in the
output. These files work perfectly on the V1.6.1-1, and there is
definitely nothing wrong with the PDF files themselves.  I must admit I
don't understand how any changes made to fix bugs could affect the
operation of this.
 
I thought I would try the recently posted windows installer.  This
installer at least correctly finds the Miktex distribution and sets up
the correct path during the install.  However, when I load up an
existing Lyx file containing EPS diagrams the Lyx environment says that
there is an error in converting to a loadable format and nothing shows
in the Lyx environment. It is not a problem with finding the files, but
somehow calling Ghostscript goes wrong and is generating an error.  I
have checked the paths to the Ghostscript files and they are OK.  Again
these files work perfectly on the previous version.
 
All of the above have been tried on Windows Vista 32bit and Windows XP
x64 systems, and similar problems occur. Therefore I don't believe it is
due to a  problem with the machine configurations.  I have not bothered
looking for other issues, since the above problems alone mean that the
software is unusable (for me anyway).
 
From the user list there appear to be a lot of people using V1.6.2-1,
and I have not seen mention of the problems mentioned above.  I cannot
understand this as the above problems emerge as soon as the software is
installed and one loads existing files containing either PDF diagrams or
EPS diagrams. Therefore from my experience it would seem that there are
major problems with V1.6.2-1.  Based on my experience I would recommend,
at the moment, that users who have EPS or PDF diagrams in their Lyx
files not to use it.
 
If I am totally off the planet with the above problems, or I am doing
something really stupid, please let me know.  I find Lyx a very useful
software product, but unfortunately the latest version has proved to be
a real problem for me.
 
Thanks for putting up with the gripe.
 
 
 


Regards


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Re: Help with minitoc and multi-file document

2009-04-10 Thread Hubert Christiaen
On vrijdag 10 april 2009, Stefano Franchi wrote:
>  would like each chapter to begin with a toc for the chapter. The problem I
> cannot seem able to solve is: where do I put the \minitoc command(s)? I
> tried:
>
> a. in the master document, just before the input command
> b. in the master document, just before the chapter sectioning environment
> c. in the subdocument, just before the first section
> d. any combination of a, b, and c I could think of.

First, a \dominitoc must be inserted at the top of the master document

Then a \minitoc at the place where you want the minitoc to appear.

For unnumbered sections (section* environment) which must be inserted in the 
TOC or minitoc, the command \addstarredchapter{...} must be entered at the 
beginning of the starred section.

It works fine with me.

Sincerely,
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Re: problem inserting .pdf as external material

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Giovanni wrote:
> It's possible to have the content inserted in line, as a paragraph?

Not with pdfpages. You need to insert the PDF as a graphic to get this.

Jürgen


problem: the text overflow the page

2009-04-10 Thread c. helder
I think that the best if I give a example:
195purple_prefs_add_string("/plugins/core/language_change/language",
"default");

In this case, the end of the sentence isn't showed in the above line. Lyx
cut it. The end of the sentence don't appear in any place.


Sorry because of my english and thanks for any help. Carlos.


Spellchecker Chokes on Language "Latex"

2009-04-10 Thread rgheck

Rich Shepard wrote:
In all the years I've used LyX I've never seen this before: while 
checking

the spelling of my document, a message box popped up reading, "The
spellchecker has failed. No word lists can be found for the language
'latex'."

The last word checked (which I had added to my personal spelling
dictionary was 'www' in the URL for our web site.

How strange!

This is a bug. The language has been set to "latex", which I think needs 
to be done for some reason, and of course the spellchecker isn't going 
to find that.


Cross-posting to devel

rh



Re: okular dvi viewer failed in lyx

2009-04-10 Thread rgheck

Russell Davie wrote:

Hi All
I just installed Lyx 1.6.1 and tested out the dvi viewer on intro.lyx.
The default dvi viewer, okular, came up and then crashed.

A Fatal Error Occurred
The application Okular (okular) crashed and caused the signal 11
(SIGSEGV).

Lyx stayed open.

OS: Ubuntu 8.10
default dvi viewer: okular

this happens with kdvi as well.

okular and kdvi works with other dvi I have, but not the dvi lyx makes.

also when changing the dvi viewer preference in 
Tools -> Preferences -> file formats -> DVI 
from xdg-open to xdiv, xdvi opens but presents a blank page.

If the window size of xdvi is re-sized to a fraction smaller, the text appears.

any help appreciated

  
This is very strange. Try exporting DVI and then opening it. If that 
works, then something is happening with the call from inside LyX.


rh



Re: Spellchecker Chokes on Language "Latex"

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, rgheck wrote:


This is a bug.


  Oh. Not a new feature of 1.6.2? :-)


The language has been set to "latex", which I think needs to be done for
some reason, and of course the spellchecker isn't going to find that.

Cross-posting to devel


  Thank you.

  FWIW, I killed the lyx process, then restarted the application. Since the
cursor was positioned at the point after the 'www' that seemed to upset the
spelling checker, the rest of the checking worked as expected.

  The bug seems to appear when checking the web site URL in the top portion
of the obverse of the title page.

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Re: problem: the text overflow the page

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, c. helder wrote:


I think that the best if I give a example:
195purple_prefs_add_string("/plugins/core/language_change/language",
"default");

In this case, the end of the sentence isn't showed in the above line. Lyx
cut it. The end of the sentence don't appear in any place.


  If I correctly understand what you are asking, you have an overfull
horizontal line. The text continues into the right margin and is truncated.
Is this correct?

  You have three approaches to fixing this. If the typeface is the normal
for body text, then rewrite the sentence to change the word order (or
shorten it), or add a LaTeX hint to help the TeX engine to properly
hyphenate words so the line can be continued on the following line.

  If you are using the code environment, then you need to manually reformat
your code so it displays on multiple lines.

Hope this helps,

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shift-arrow selection

2009-04-10 Thread Nils Becker
Hi,

I am writing to ask whether this is a bug:

When editing text or math, in previous versions of lyx I often used
shift-rightarrow or shift-leftarrow to select text letter by letter.
This does not work for me anymore on lyx 1.6.2, mac os x.

(When I press option or command in addition, word-wise selection does
work. )

In case this is just a missing shortcut definition, I think it should be
added to the default.

Cheers, Nils


Re: shift-arrow selection

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Nils Becker wrote:
> When editing text or math, in previous versions of lyx I often used
> shift-rightarrow or shift-leftarrow to select text letter by letter.
> This does not work for me anymore on lyx 1.6.2, mac os x.

Did you read the RELEASE_NOTES?

"Caveats when upgrading from earlier versions to 1.6.x
---

- Since several lyx functions have been renamed (see above), old
  configuration files (*.ui, *.bind) may no longer work. If some
  functions (such as Shift-right for selecting text) fail to work
  after the upgrade from previous versions, make sure you do not
  have any old configuration files in your LyX user directory, or
  adapt these files to the new functions. If anything else fails,
  try if deleting your LyX user directory helps."

Jürgen


Installation Problems

2009-04-10 Thread David Harmsworth
Hello,
 
I'm trying to get LyX up and running, but I'm getting the following error 
message:
    
The required file
    tex\latex\ieeetran\IEEEtrans.cls
is missing. It is part of the following package:
    Name: ieeetran
    Title:  Document class for IEEE Transactions
 
I get the same message for a couple of dozen other files.  Most of them don't 
seem to be essential for my purposes, except for this one:
 
  tex/latex/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.sty
 
(I can get LyX to operate, but I can't generate postscript output).
 
I downloaded everything from the Wiki page, using the Installer Bundle: 
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.2/LyX-1.6.2-1-Installer-Bundle.exe,
since I didn't have a LaTeX compiler on my machine to begin with.  Does the 
version of MikTeX in that bundle not contain all the files needed for the 
version of LyX?
 
Thanks for any help you can offer!


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How do I decrease the space between bullets (1.6.2, all settings at default)

2009-04-10 Thread Sophie (itsme213)
Thanks! 





Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

  The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
as "Evil Red Text (ERT)" has bothered me from the first time I saw it. Since
LyX is a GUI front end to LaTeX I fail to see how there's anything "evil"
about LaTeX.

  More to the point, looking at how many requests for help in formatting
documents we see on this list involve inserting LaTeX code, the label of ERT
can be off-putting to those new to the tools as well as being highly
inappropriate.

  I'm asking that the term be retired. Better yet, killed and buried deep.
Notice on the icon bar the square that displays "TeX" and the cursor-hover
hint is "Insert TeX code." No more ERT!

Rich

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Re: Installation Problems

2009-04-10 Thread Richard Heck

David Harmsworth wrote:

Hello,
 
I'm trying to get LyX up and running, 

  
The first question is: Can you compile simple documents using article, 
or some other standard class? I'll assume you can. If not, your LaTeX 
installation is completely broken.



but I'm getting the following error message:

The required file

tex\latex\ieeetran\IEEEtrans.cls
is missing. It is part of the following package:
Name: ieeetran
Title:  Document class for IEEE Transactions
 
I get the same message for a couple of dozen other files.  Most of them don't seem to be essential for my purposes, except for this one:
 
  tex/latex/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.sty
 
(I can get LyX to operate, but I can't generate postscript output).
 
I downloaded everything from the Wiki page, using the Installer Bundle: ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.2/LyX-1.6.2-1-Installer-Bundle.exe,

since I didn't have a LaTeX compiler on my machine to begin with.  Does the 
version of MikTeX in that bundle not contain all the files needed for the 
version of LyX?
 
  
Neither this installer, nor any other, installs absolutely every LaTeX 
file someone might want to use with LyX. It's the job of your LaTeX 
installation to deal with that. In your case, that's apparently MikTeX, 
and my understanding was that it  should install the LaTeX files you 
need on the fly. If it's not doing so, I'd investigate it.


Richard



Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Rich Shepard wrote:
> The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
> as "Evil Red Text (ERT)" has bothered me from the first time I saw it.

Could you point me to the places in the manuals where this acronym is used? 
AFAIK, it is no "official" term (anymore). The (English) manuals always use 
"TeX mode".

> Since LyX is a GUI front end to LaTeX I fail to see how there's anything
> "evil" about LaTeX.

It's a joke. Irony. Developers also want to have (a bit of) fun, sometimes.

Jürgen



Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
> > as "Evil Red Text (ERT)" has bothered me from the first time I saw it.
>
> Could you point me to the places in the manuals where this acronym is used?
> AFAIK, it is no "official" term (anymore). The (English) manuals always use
> "TeX mode".

If you refer to the button labels: Consider that "TeX mode" would not be 
appropriate, since in DocBook classes, ERT must contain XML, not (La)TeX.

If you wish, you can decode "ERT" in the collapsable buttons as "Embedded Raw 
Text". 

Jürgen


Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Christian Ridderström

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

It's a joke. Irony. Developers also want to have (a bit of) fun, 
sometimes.


I actually like "ERT" because of how it's a connection to the history of 
LyX and its origins. :-)


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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:


If you wish, you can decode "ERT" in the collapsable buttons as "Embedded
Raw Text".


Juergen,

  That works. :-)

  Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too
difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it. Yes, it's a
complicated markup language, but it's also exceptionally powerful.

  I'll withdraw my request.

Rich

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Re: How do I decrease the space between bullets (1.6.2, all settings at default)

2009-04-10 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
You can use the enumitem package/module, see here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/Enumitem
If for example you don't want extra space between
bullets you can use the option nolistsep. You can also
set specific list separation.



Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Richard Heck

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Rich Shepard wrote:
  

The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
as "Evil Red Text (ERT)" has bothered me from the first time I saw it.



Could you point me to the places in the manuals where this acronym is used? 
AFAIK, it is no "official" term (anymore). The (English) manuals always use 
"TeX mode".


  

[rgh...@localhost doc]$ pwd
/cvs/lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc
[rgh...@localhost doc]$ grep -iR "evil red text" * | grep -v .svn
DocStyle.lyx:Evil Red Text
es/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text
eu/Extended.lyx: Komando-mota horiei ERT (Inpernuko Testu Gorria edo 
"Evil Red Text") deritze.

Extended.lyx: Such commands are referred to as TeX code, or Evil Red Text.
fr/Extended.lyx:NdT : Evil Red Text
fr/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text
gl/Tutorial.lyx:[N.T] Evil Red Text = Malvado texto vermello.
ja/Extended.lyx: LaTeXコードとしてマークしなければなりません。我々はその 
ようなコマンドを ERT (Evil Red Text)と呼んでいます。AASTeXドキュメントの

pl/Extended.lyx: Such commands are referred to as ERT, or Evil Red Text.

rh



Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Richard Heck wrote:


[rgh...@localhost doc]$ pwd
/cvs/lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc
[rgh...@localhost doc]$ grep -iR "evil red text" * | grep -v .svn
DocStyle.lyx:Evil Red Text
es/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text
eu/Extended.lyx: Komando-mota horiei ERT (Inpernuko Testu Gorria edo "Evil 
Red Text") deritze.

Extended.lyx: Such commands are referred to as TeX code, or Evil Red Text.
fr/Extended.lyx:NdT : Evil Red Text
fr/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text
gl/Tutorial.lyx:[N.T] Evil Red Text = Malvado texto vermello.
ja/Extended.lyx: LaTeX?  ERT (Evil Red 
Text)AASTeX???

pl/Extended.lyx: Such commands are referred to as ERT, or Evil Red Text.


  It also shows up when the cursor is paused over such a box.

Rich

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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Friday 10 April 2009 01:33:10 pm Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> > If you wish, you can decode "ERT" in the collapsable buttons as "Embedded
> > Raw Text".
>
> Juergen,
>
>That works. :-)

For me too. Thinking of embedded LaTeX as "ERT" would have been a hard habit 
for me to break.

>
>Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too
> difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it. 

I don't think that's why it was called "evil". The evilness comes from the 
fact that you're formatting, presumably within \mainmatter, in a one-off kind 
of way instead of using environments or character styles. ERT within 
\mainmatter is often an indication of fingerpainting.

I really don't think anyone on this list thought of LaTeX as evil, as long as 
it was in your layout file where it belongs.

SteveT
 
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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread curtis osterhoudt
When I first started learning LyX (what -- about 10 years ago?), I very much 
liked the name 'Evil Red Text'. It showed that the developers had a sense of 
humor, and the professionality of the manuals and the program itself was in no 
way impacted (in my mind) with the 'ERT'. A colleague of mine has made the same 
comment to me lately.

  Curtis O.

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From: Rich Shepard 
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:14:42 AM
Subject: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

  The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX
as "Evil Red Text (ERT)" has bothered me from the first time I saw it. Since
LyX is a GUI front end to LaTeX I fail to see how there's anything "evil"
about LaTeX.

  More to the point, looking at how many requests for help in formatting
documents we see on this list involve inserting LaTeX code, the label of ERT
can be off-putting to those new to the tools as well as being highly
inappropriate.

  I'm asking that the term be retired. Better yet, killed and buried deep.
Notice on the icon bar the square that displays "TeX" and the cursor-hover
hint is "Insert TeX code." No more ERT!

Rich

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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Freitag 10 April 2009 schrieb Steve Litt:
> >    Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too
> > difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it.
>
> I don't think that's why it was called "evil". The evilness comes from the
> fact that you're formatting, presumably within \mainmatter, in a one-off
> kind of way instead of using environments or character styles. ERT within
> \mainmatter is often an indication of fingerpainting.
>
> I really don't think anyone on this list thought of LaTeX as evil, as long
> as it was in your layout file where it belongs.

No, it was so named, because it appeared in red in your text.
And evil in the sense, that sometimes you had to use it, although you tried to 
make everything with lyx-commands only.

Kornel



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Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread rgheck

Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Freitag 10 April 2009 schrieb Steve Litt:
  

   Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too
difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it.
  

I don't think that's why it was called "evil". The evilness comes from the
fact that you're formatting, presumably within \mainmatter, in a one-off
kind of way instead of using environments or character styles. ERT within
\mainmatter is often an indication of fingerpainting.

I really don't think anyone on this list thought of LaTeX as evil, as long
as it was in your layout file where it belongs.



No, it was so named, because it appeared in red in your text.
And evil in the sense, that sometimes you had to use it, although you tried to 
make everything with lyx-commands only.


  

Evil as in "necessary evil", I take it.

rh



What has happened with Lyx V1.6.2-1

2009-04-10 Thread Robert Betz
Guys,
 
I am frustrated.  I have installed Lyx using both the Alt version and
also the newly posted installer and have had all sorts of difficulties.

 
Basiscally things that did work on V1.6.1-1 now don't on V1.6.2-1.  For
example with the Alt installer during install it cannot find the Miktex
distribution and the path to it has to be manually set.  Once installed
then when I load up files that have PDF graphics they are not rendered
correctly on the screen — there is a lot of extra space around them.  If
I generate a PDF output file this problem is also retained in the
output. These files work perfectly on the V1.6.1-1, and there is
definitely nothing wrong with the PDF files themselves.  I must admit I
don't understand how any changes made to fix bugs could affect the
operation of this.
 
I thought I would try the recently posted windows installer.  This
installer at least correctly finds the Miktex distribution and sets up
the correct path during the install.  However, when I load up an
existing Lyx file containing EPS diagrams the Lyx environment says that
there is an error in converting to a loadable format and nothing shows
in the Lyx environment. It is not a problem with finding the files, but
somehow calling Ghostscript goes wrong and is generating an error.  I
have checked the paths to the Ghostscript files and they are OK.  Again
these files work perfectly on the previous version.
 
All of the above have been tried on Windows Vista 32bit and Windows XP
x64 systems, and similar problems occur. Therefore I don't believe it is
due to a  problem with the machine configurations.  I have not bothered
looking for other issues, since the above problems alone mean that the
software is unusable (for me anyway).
 
>From the user list there appear to be a lot of people using V1.6.2-1,
and I have not seen mention of the problems mentioned above.  I cannot
understand this as the above problems emerge as soon as the software is
installed and one loads existing files containing either PDF diagrams or
EPS diagrams. Therefore from my experience it would seem that there are
major problems with V1.6.2-1.  Based on my experience I would recommend,
at the moment, that users who have EPS or PDF diagrams in their Lyx
files not to use it.
 
If I am totally off the planet with the above problems, or I am doing
something really stupid, please let me know.  I find Lyx a very useful
software product, but unfortunately the latest version has proved to be
a real problem for me.
 
Thanks for putting up with the gripe.
 
 
 


Regards


Bob Betz



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