Question on adding WYSIWY* math symbols

[Philip Mayer]

Hi everybody,

I am wondering about how to add new symbols to the WYSIWY* math editor. 
I noticed that normal delimiters such as [ ] and { } are supported; 
however, I require the double brackets [[ ]] used for semantics.


Of course, I can add this with ERT (\llbracket - Package stmaryrd) and 
it shows just fine in DVI/PDF, however I'd really like have it displayed 
in the math editor view as a symbol.


So, my question is: Is there a straightforward way of adding support for 
additional symbols? Perhaps editing some symbol table file? Or coding a 
plugin?


Sorry if this has been answered - I'd appreciate an URL then ;)

Thanks,

Philip

eqref not working properly

[Stefano Baroni]

Hi! I am editing a file imported from raw LaTeX. After adding some  
text, I started inserting cross-references to equations selecting the  
(reference) style. Ti my surprise, the subsequent LaTeX  
compilation gives me errors because it cannot find a proper definition  
of the \eqref{} command. I am using LyX 1.6.3 on Mac OS X 10.5.8.  
Used the same cross-reference style lots of times before. Any  
suggestions on what may be going wrong? Thanks - SB


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Re: the [[Lyx] explicit mail subject] thread

[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

 Note:  the quoted texts below are all liberally snipped... 
for full context see the thread...

It would appear that on Sep 2, Delta moins did innocently start this thread:

 there is no keyword in the mail subject that tell people
 this comes from the Lyx users list. It's very messing because
 you cannot filter the mails efficiently.

 I don't know if it should be done automaticaly by the list
 system or if people that send mail should add something like
 I've done for example manually.

It would appear that on Sep 2, Manveru did say:

 Just sort or filter your e-mails by From: field from header of your
 mails. All e-mail clients support this. At least all good e-mail
 clients.


It would appear that on Sep 2, Helge Hafting did say:

 Delta moins wrote:
  Ok I knew this solution and yeah it works. I will use it.
  If I'm the only for who an explicit mail subject lacks it's ok.
 
 There are more who wants this, but also quite a few who don't want it. The
 mail can be sorted by other headers than Subject.
 Once the lyx mailing list arrives in a folder of its own anyway, having [LyX]
 in every subject becomes somewhat irritating.

From my point of view that would becomes *_VERY_* irritating...
I subscribe to a list that does do this And I wish they didn't.

But like Helge: Who on Sep 9, also did say:

= This list was created without subject manipulation, please just respect that.
= I subscribe to some lists that do mangle the subject. I don't like it, but I
= don't request a change. It is the list maintainter's choice to make.

I don't ask them to change it... I just sigh a lot...


It would appear that on Sep 2, Murray Eisenberg did say:

 I agree with the O.P. on this. This is something that, surely, is easily fixed
 at the server end, so that each message going out from the server has, say,
 [LyX] prepended to the subject.
 
 Many other mailing lists do this. There should be no need for the subscribers
 to have to filter.

It would appear that on Sep 2, Christian Ridderström did say:

 On Wed, 2 Sep 2009, Manveru wrote:
  There is many voices in favour of such feature. But not a lot of
  people vote against. If may I suggest, maybe someone can create a
  poll/survey for LyX users list subscribers.
 
 I think the many voices that don't like it are tired of having this
 recurring discussion  ;-)

I suspect that just as many mailing lists differ on this as do on the
Reply-To: munging issue somebody mentioned... Because there is such
a thing as free choice on operating systems, mail servers, and
mail clients, neither choice {for either issue} can possibly be a
one 'size' pleases all solution. And like top vs bottom posting
or the infamous vi vs emacs debates, these are all holy wars that
simply can NOT be forever put to rest...

EXCEPT that, at least in the case of Subject: tagging (IE [LyX]) then 
there is the potential for it to become a non-issue. All it would take 
is for the list server(s) to evolve to include a configuration choice
for tagged, or non tagged Subject: headers, just as there is usually a
choice for digest or non-digest... 

Personally I don't think that's ever going to happen any more than I
think anybody will ever offer a list server with a smart digest option
that includes some kind of header like tag in each individual message
of the digest that can be used by a digest only subscriber to request a
personal resend of just those individual messages they wanted to reply
to. Which would provide a way for digest users to avoid messing with the
threaded message reply path.

Like I said, it ain't gonna happen... 

But wouldn't it be nice if I was wrong?

sigh


It would appear that on Sep 2, Rich Shepard did say:

   As long as I've subscribed to this mail list, all messages have the
 subject line prefixed with [Lyx]. Perhaps that's because all I've used is
 procmail and (al)pine as my MUA, but it's always been there.

Hmmmnnn I myself use procmail (with only a minimal understanding of it)
I would be very interested in seeing your ~/.procmail.rc recipe for the
lyx mailing list...

And if perchance, you happen to know how I could use procmail to
strip such tags from the messages I get from lists that do add them,
would you kindly explain it to me???

Because if I knew how to do that I'd no longer mind it when some list
manager decides to add Subject: tags to a list I'm reading...


-- 
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|   ^ J(tWdy)P
| \___/  jtw...@ttlc.net

Re: Vertical spacing of matrices

[Uwe Stöhr]

Yago schrieb:


For example when you say,

(when the sin would not be upright, it would even mean s*i*n*1/2)

you don't remember the lineal functions (archs) in a circle that are 
typed with the first letter upright, like this:


Sin AM


I meant upright (the opposite of italic) and not uppercase.

Nevertheless, Bruce also described what I meant in his today's post in this email thread: You are 
using your own typesetting rules making communication with the rest of the world complicted.


The appendix of LyX's Math manual consists of a list of math typesetting rules. You might at least 
have a look at them in case you have to read math in books that are not specially written for naval 
military.


regards Uwe

Re: eqref not working properly

[Uwe Stöhr]

Stefano Baroni schrieb:

Hi! I am editing a file imported from raw LaTeX. After adding some text, 
I started inserting cross-references to equations selecting the 
(reference) style. Ti my surprise, the subsequent LaTeX compilation 
gives me errors because it cannot find a proper definition of the 
\eqref{} command.


Then AMSTeX is not properly installed. AMS is part of every LaTeX distribution so it seems to be a 
problem with your LaTeX distribution.


regards Uwe

Karmic Koala update slows down lyx

[Sam Liddicott]

The most recent Karmic Koala updates make updating the Lyx caret (text 
position) very slow.


If I click the left-arrow, it takes a second before the caret is seen in 
the new position and the old position is not erased properly.


This may not be a problem with Lyx, but I'm curious to know if other 
users have the same problem.


Sam

Re: Question on adding WYSIWY* math symbols

[Uwe Stöhr]

Philip Mayer schrieb:

So, my question is: Is there a straightforward way of adding support for 
additional symbols?


No. Support for new symbols needs to be programmed directly in LyX, especially when the symbols 
require special LaTeX-packages as in your case. LyX needs to know how to display the symbol.


regards Uwe

p.s. (What you can do is to modify the file symbols, but be patient!)

Re: eqref not working properly

[James C. Sutherland]

On Sep 12, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


Stefano Baroni schrieb:

Hi! I am editing a file imported from raw LaTeX. After adding some  
text, I started inserting cross-references to equations selecting  
the (reference) style. Ti my surprise, the subsequent LaTeX  
compilation gives me errors because it cannot find a proper  
definition of the \eqref{} command.


Then AMSTeX is not properly installed. AMS is part of every LaTeX  
distribution so it seems to be a problem with your LaTeX distribution.




It is also possible that you have un-checked the Use AMS math package  
automatically in Document-Settings-Math Options.

Fwd: eqref not working properly

[James C. Sutherland]

Begin forwarded message:


From: Stefano Baroni bar...@sissa.it
Date: September 12, 2009 8:27:06 AM MDT
To: James C.Sutherland james.sutherl...@utah.edu
Subject: Re: eqref not working properly


On Sep 12, 2009, at 3:47 PM, James C. Sutherland wrote:



On Sep 12, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


Stefano Baroni schrieb:

Hi! I am editing a file imported from raw LaTeX. After adding  
some text, I started inserting cross-references to equations  
selecting the (reference) style. Ti my surprise, the  
subsequent LaTeX compilation gives me errors because it cannot  
find a proper definition of the \eqref{} command.


Then AMSTeX is not properly installed. AMS is part of every LaTeX  
distribution so it seems to be a problem with your LaTeX  
distribution.




It is also possible that you have un-checked the Use AMS math  
package automatically in Document-Settings-Math Options.


bravo! you got it. Although I did not (consciously) uncheck  
anything. that option must have gone unchecked automaticaly upon  
importing a Latex file.


As a general remark, I really love LyX, but if I can make friendly  
criticism, I find its user interface a bit clumsy, especially in  
what concerns the setting of different options that is often hidden  
where you (I !!!) would not expect it.


thanks again for the great piece of software and for willing-to-help  
community of users


Stefano

How Many use linux

[Paul Drake]

I use Lyx on linux, and have been since 2003

Cheers

Paul

Re: How Many use linux

[Sven Hoexter]

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:56:31PM +0100, Paul Drake wrote:
 I use Lyx on linux, and have been since 2003

I somehow missed the start of this thread. Did someone already mentaion
the popcon stats for Debian?
http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=lyx

The scaling for the lyx binary package is a bit out of scale since we moved
the latex-xft-fonts/ttf-lyx into the lyx source packaging. All in all it's
a steadily growing userbase using the Debian packages (excluding users using
them indirectly through *buntus and other derivations).

Sven, using LyX on Linux aswell ;)
-- 
They're the cowards We are rebels
We got the power to fight the devil
   [ AIV - We are rebels ]

Re: How Many use linux

[Thomas Løcke]

LyX and Slackware combo. Works a treat!

:o)
/Thomas

Re: How Many use linux

[Gilles Mioni]

I'm using lyx on debian lenny. Litterary author, I'm writing all
my texts with lyx near 12 years ago today. In order to use the
latest stable version of lyx, I compile lyx from source files.

Re: How Many use linux

[William Bray]

Have been using Lyx on Linux for the past nine years. Currently I run  
Lyx on Mac OS X (which is a beefed up Linux OS) and have Lyx on Ubuntu  
as a virtual machine. Happy user!!


Bill

Re: Thanks for outline mode

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 11/09/2009 18:20, rgheck wrote:

On 09/11/2009 11:54 AM, Erez Yerushalmi wrote:

Hey, wow, I didn't even know about this feature.  I just tried it and it
works.  cool !

Thanks Steve for writing about it.
Yes, thanks for the developers amazing work!

To give credit where due, I think Abdel did most of this work, with 
help from elsewhere.


We shall also give credit to Martin who did the original LFUNs and 
Pavel, Jurgen and Vincent who did a lot of fine-tuning and polishing AFAIR.


Abdel.

Re: How Many use linux

[Anthony Campbell]

On 12 Sep 2009, William Bray wrote:
 Have been using Lyx on Linux for the past nine years. Currently I
 run Lyx on Mac OS X (which is a beefed up Linux OS) and have Lyx on
 Ubuntu as a virtual machine. Happy user!!
 
 Bill

LyX on Debian Sid. I first tried LyX a good many years ago but was happy
using Latex so didn't bother with it. But when I started my present
round of publishing books via Lulu (5 so far) I started with LyX and
found it cut the work down by at least 70 per cent.

Anthony




-- 
Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk 
Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux
http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, 
and sceptical articles)

Re: Karmic Koala update slows down lyx

[Steve Litt]

On Saturday 12 September 2009 09:34:02 Sam Liddicott wrote:
 The most recent Karmic Koala updates make updating the Lyx caret (text
 position) very slow.

 If I click the left-arrow, it takes a second before the caret is seen in
 the new position and the old position is not erased properly.

 This may not be a problem with Lyx, but I'm curious to know if other
 users have the same problem.

 Sam

What's the exact LyX version (help-about)?

What's the exact version of your Qt?

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Re: Karmic Koala update slows down lyx

[Uwe Stöhr]

Steve Litt schrieb:


On Saturday 12 September 2009 09:34:02 Sam Liddicott wrote:

The most recent Karmic Koala updates make updating the Lyx caret (text
position) very slow.


What is Karmic Koala?

regards Uwe

Re: Vertical spacing of matrices

[Yago]

See the page Nr. 2 in the document ortomatem.pdf refered in the Lyx's Math 
Manual, or pages Nrs. 6, 8 and 13 in the same document;and the reference to the 
ISO 31 in the page Nr. 18 about the round brackets. All the trigonometric 
functions without brackets I suppose not only for naval military uses and not 
for my personal use.
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de
To: Yago diazd...@ono.com
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Vertical spacing of matrices


 Yago schrieb:
 
 For example when you say,
 
 (when the sin would not be upright, it would even mean s*i*n*1/2)
 
 you don't remember the lineal functions (archs) in a circle that are 
 typed with the first letter upright, like this:
 
 Sin AM
 
 I meant upright (the opposite of italic) and not uppercase.
 
 Nevertheless, Bruce also described what I meant in his today's post in this 
 email thread: You are 
 using your own typesetting rules making communication with the rest of the 
 world complicted.
 
 The appendix of LyX's Math manual consists of a list of math typesetting 
 rules. You might at least 
 have a look at them in case you have to read math in books that are not 
 specially written for naval 
 military.
 
 regards Uwe

Re: Karmic Koala update slows down lyx

[Uwe Stöhr]

Andre Poenitz schrieb:


The most recent Karmic Koala updates make updating the Lyx caret (text
position) very slow.

What is Karmic Koala?


The next Ubuntu release (9.10)

PS: On Fridays I would have suggested to look at
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=karmic+koala ;-)


Well, I already googled it myself ;-). It is nevertheless a strange that people asking for help 
while the list members first have to google what they are talking about.
Back to the topic Ubuntu 9.10 is not stable and in beta state. I'm wondering why we should care 
about an unreleased OS.


regards Uwe

Re: Re: Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[knauslists]

Now I have tested LyX on Mac OSX 10.6 more thoroughly and the crashes seem to 
appear only when Lyx does some autosaving of the current document 
(Automatisches Speichern des aktuellen Dokuments… is written in the bottom 
bar of the Lyx window – Should be sth. like autosaving current document… in 
the English version). It immediately crashes afterwards. So far I haven't 
recognized crashes elsewhere. It's always the 2-minute-autosaving-crash.
I also deactivated autosaving in the preferences but this strangely does not 
really deactivate it, as after a couple of minutes the bottom bar message 
reoccurs and so do the crashes. I have restarted LyX after changing the 
preferences.

Johannes




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Re: How Many use linux

[Marcelo Acuña]

Lyx in Debian Lenny (before in OpenSuse).



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Re: Vertical spacing of matrices

[Uwe Stöhr]

Yago schrieb:


See the page Nr. 2 in the document ortomatem.pdf refered in the Lyx's Math 
Manual,


There is no such reference.
I googled this:
http://www.tex-tipografia.com/archive/ortomatem.pdf
There the also using round brackets on page 2 (Disposición de fórmulas aisladas)


page and 13


They write there for example
cos2vt
This is inexact wrong because this could mean
cos(2)*v*t or cos(2*v)*t
Moreover this is against the the character omitting rules, see below.


in the same document;and the reference to the ISO 31 in the page Nr. 18 about 
the round brackets.


In the norm it is defined that you _can_ but needn't to omit the brackets. But omitting the brackets 
leads to inexact result:

tan2pt
versus
tan2pt
In the first case I meant tan(2)*p*t, in the second I meant tan(2*p)*t. So you 
see the problem.

Besides this, look at
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funci%C3%B3n_matem%C3%A1tica
all other Wikipedia entries state the same. Typesetting rules are important to be able to 
communicate with each other. You can take any math book, look at webpages, school books, and also 
another LyX user told you as mathematician that your notation is incorrect. So it's up to you to 
change it or to ignore this.


regards Uwe

Re: How Many use linux

[Iain Mac Donald]

LyX in Debian since about 2000.

Re: Vertical spacing of matrices

[Yago]

Uwe, in the page 2 you have on top an specific trigonometric example 
(Blancos) without brackets. And more, when I say that the brackets are no 
necessary is because LaTeX add a little space between the function and his 
argument. So the reality is that LaTeX don't type,


cos2vt

but,

cos 2vt

with a little more space after cos and this is very comprehensive for 
everybody.


Please don't mention me the Wikipedia because this resource isn't at all a 
canon for nothing.


Regards Yago.
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de

To: Yago diazd...@ono.com
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Vertical spacing of matrices



Yago schrieb:

See the page Nr. 2 in the document ortomatem.pdf refered in the Lyx's 
Math Manual,


There is no such reference.
I googled this:
http://www.tex-tipografia.com/archive/ortomatem.pdf
There the also using round brackets on page 2 (Disposición de fórmulas 
aisladas)



page and 13


They write there for example
cos2vt
This is inexact wrong because this could mean
cos(2)*v*t or cos(2*v)*t
Moreover this is against the the character omitting rules, see below.

in the same document;and the reference to the ISO 31 in the page Nr. 18 
about the round brackets.


In the norm it is defined that you _can_ but needn't to omit the brackets. 
But omitting the brackets leads to inexact result:

tan2pt
versus
tan2pt
In the first case I meant tan(2)*p*t, in the second I meant tan(2*p)*t. So 
you see the problem.


Besides this, look at
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funci%C3%B3n_matem%C3%A1tica
all other Wikipedia entries state the same. Typesetting rules are 
important to be able to communicate with each other. You can take any math 
book, look at webpages, school books, and also another LyX user told you 
as mathematician that your notation is incorrect. So it's up to you to 
change it or to ignore this.


regards Uwe 

Lyx 1.6.4.1 and snown leopard

[Gesualdo Scutari]

Dear all,

i'm writing for your help. I just updated my Mac OS to Snown Leopard.  
I also installed the last version of lyx available for mac, namely  
1.6.4.1.
Unfortunately I have been experiencing the following problem: every,  
let us say, 4 minutes a OS windows appears that repeatedly tells me  
Lyx quit unexpectedly when Lyx continues to run without issues in the  
background. This is quite  annoying because I have to stop using lyx  
and close the windows.

COuld you please help me in fixing this issue?

Many thanks in advance for your assistance.

BEst - ALdo

Question on adding WYSIWY* math symbols

[Philip Mayer]

Hi everybody,

I am wondering about how to add new symbols to the WYSIWY* math editor. 
I noticed that normal delimiters such as [ ] and { } are supported; 
however, I require the double brackets [[ ]] used for semantics.


Of course, I can add this with ERT (\llbracket - Package stmaryrd) and 
it shows just fine in DVI/PDF, however I'd really like have it displayed 
in the math editor view as a symbol.


So, my question is: Is there a straightforward way of adding support for 
additional symbols? Perhaps editing some symbol table file? Or coding a 
plugin?


Sorry if this has been answered - I'd appreciate an URL then ;)

Thanks,

Philip

eqref not working properly

[Stefano Baroni]

Hi! I am editing a file imported from raw LaTeX. After adding some  
text, I started inserting cross-references to equations selecting the  
(reference) style. Ti my surprise, the subsequent LaTeX  
compilation gives me errors because it cannot find a proper definition  
of the \eqref{} command. I am using LyX 1.6.3 on Mac OS X 10.5.8.  
Used the same cross-reference style lots of times before. Any  
suggestions on what may be going wrong? Thanks - SB


---
Stefano Baroni - SISSADEMOCRITOS National Simulation Center -  
Trieste
http://stefano.baroni.me [+39] 040 3787 406 (tel) -528 (fax) /  
stefanobaroni (skype)


La morale est une logique de l'action comme la logique est une morale  
de la pensée - Jean Piaget


Please, if possible, don't  send me MS Word or PowerPoint attachments
Why? See:  http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

Re: the [[Lyx] explicit mail subject] thread

[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

 Note:  the quoted texts below are all liberally snipped... 
for full context see the thread...

It would appear that on Sep 2, Delta moins did innocently start this thread:

 there is no keyword in the mail subject that tell people
 this comes from the Lyx users list. It's very messing because
 you cannot filter the mails efficiently.

 I don't know if it should be done automaticaly by the list
 system or if people that send mail should add something like
 I've done for example manually.

It would appear that on Sep 2, Manveru did say:

 Just sort or filter your e-mails by From: field from header of your
 mails. All e-mail clients support this. At least all good e-mail
 clients.


It would appear that on Sep 2, Helge Hafting did say:

 Delta moins wrote:
  Ok I knew this solution and yeah it works. I will use it.
  If I'm the only for who an explicit mail subject lacks it's ok.
 
 There are more who wants this, but also quite a few who don't want it. The
 mail can be sorted by other headers than Subject.
 Once the lyx mailing list arrives in a folder of its own anyway, having [LyX]
 in every subject becomes somewhat irritating.

From my point of view that would becomes *_VERY_* irritating...
I subscribe to a list that does do this And I wish they didn't.

But like Helge: Who on Sep 9, also did say:

= This list was created without subject manipulation, please just respect that.
= I subscribe to some lists that do mangle the subject. I don't like it, but I
= don't request a change. It is the list maintainter's choice to make.

I don't ask them to change it... I just sigh a lot...


It would appear that on Sep 2, Murray Eisenberg did say:

 I agree with the O.P. on this. This is something that, surely, is easily fixed
 at the server end, so that each message going out from the server has, say,
 [LyX] prepended to the subject.
 
 Many other mailing lists do this. There should be no need for the subscribers
 to have to filter.

It would appear that on Sep 2, Christian Ridderström did say:

 On Wed, 2 Sep 2009, Manveru wrote:
  There is many voices in favour of such feature. But not a lot of
  people vote against. If may I suggest, maybe someone can create a
  poll/survey for LyX users list subscribers.
 
 I think the many voices that don't like it are tired of having this
 recurring discussion  ;-)

I suspect that just as many mailing lists differ on this as do on the
Reply-To: munging issue somebody mentioned... Because there is such
a thing as free choice on operating systems, mail servers, and
mail clients, neither choice {for either issue} can possibly be a
one 'size' pleases all solution. And like top vs bottom posting
or the infamous vi vs emacs debates, these are all holy wars that
simply can NOT be forever put to rest...

EXCEPT that, at least in the case of Subject: tagging (IE [LyX]) then 
there is the potential for it to become a non-issue. All it would take 
is for the list server(s) to evolve to include a configuration choice
for tagged, or non tagged Subject: headers, just as there is usually a
choice for digest or non-digest... 

Personally I don't think that's ever going to happen any more than I
think anybody will ever offer a list server with a smart digest option
that includes some kind of header like tag in each individual message
of the digest that can be used by a digest only subscriber to request a
personal resend of just those individual messages they wanted to reply
to. Which would provide a way for digest users to avoid messing with the
threaded message reply path.

Like I said, it ain't gonna happen... 

But wouldn't it be nice if I was wrong?

sigh


It would appear that on Sep 2, Rich Shepard did say:

   As long as I've subscribed to this mail list, all messages have the
 subject line prefixed with [Lyx]. Perhaps that's because all I've used is
 procmail and (al)pine as my MUA, but it's always been there.

Hmmmnnn I myself use procmail (with only a minimal understanding of it)
I would be very interested in seeing your ~/.procmail.rc recipe for the
lyx mailing list...

And if perchance, you happen to know how I could use procmail to
strip such tags from the messages I get from lists that do add them,
would you kindly explain it to me???

Because if I knew how to do that I'd no longer mind it when some list
manager decides to add Subject: tags to a list I'm reading...


-- 
|   ~^~   ~^~
|   *   *  Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|   ^ J(tWdy)P
| \___/  jtw...@ttlc.net

Re: Vertical spacing of matrices

[Uwe Stöhr]

Yago schrieb:


For example when you say,

(when the sin would not be upright, it would even mean s*i*n*1/2)

you don't remember the lineal functions (archs) in a circle that are 
typed with the first letter upright, like this:


Sin AM


I meant upright (the opposite of italic) and not uppercase.

Nevertheless, Bruce also described what I meant in his today's post in this email thread: You are 
using your own typesetting rules making communication with the rest of the world complicted.


The appendix of LyX's Math manual consists of a list of math typesetting rules. You might at least 
have a look at them in case you have to read math in books that are not specially written for naval 
military.


regards Uwe

Re: eqref not working properly

[Uwe Stöhr]

Stefano Baroni schrieb:

Hi! I am editing a file imported from raw LaTeX. After adding some text, 
I started inserting cross-references to equations selecting the 
(reference) style. Ti my surprise, the subsequent LaTeX compilation 
gives me errors because it cannot find a proper definition of the 
\eqref{} command.


Then AMSTeX is not properly installed. AMS is part of every LaTeX distribution so it seems to be a 
problem with your LaTeX distribution.


regards Uwe

Karmic Koala update slows down lyx

[Sam Liddicott]

The most recent Karmic Koala updates make updating the Lyx caret (text 
position) very slow.


If I click the left-arrow, it takes a second before the caret is seen in 
the new position and the old position is not erased properly.


This may not be a problem with Lyx, but I'm curious to know if other 
users have the same problem.


Sam

Re: Question on adding WYSIWY* math symbols

[Uwe Stöhr]

Philip Mayer schrieb:

So, my question is: Is there a straightforward way of adding support for 
additional symbols?


No. Support for new symbols needs to be programmed directly in LyX, especially when the symbols 
require special LaTeX-packages as in your case. LyX needs to know how to display the symbol.


regards Uwe

p.s. (What you can do is to modify the file symbols, but be patient!)

Re: eqref not working properly

[James C. Sutherland]

On Sep 12, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


Stefano Baroni schrieb:

Hi! I am editing a file imported from raw LaTeX. After adding some  
text, I started inserting cross-references to equations selecting  
the (reference) style. Ti my surprise, the subsequent LaTeX  
compilation gives me errors because it cannot find a proper  
definition of the \eqref{} command.


Then AMSTeX is not properly installed. AMS is part of every LaTeX  
distribution so it seems to be a problem with your LaTeX distribution.




It is also possible that you have un-checked the Use AMS math package  
automatically in Document-Settings-Math Options.

Fwd: eqref not working properly

[James C. Sutherland]

Begin forwarded message:


From: Stefano Baroni bar...@sissa.it
Date: September 12, 2009 8:27:06 AM MDT
To: James C.Sutherland james.sutherl...@utah.edu
Subject: Re: eqref not working properly


On Sep 12, 2009, at 3:47 PM, James C. Sutherland wrote:



On Sep 12, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


Stefano Baroni schrieb:

Hi! I am editing a file imported from raw LaTeX. After adding  
some text, I started inserting cross-references to equations  
selecting the (reference) style. Ti my surprise, the  
subsequent LaTeX compilation gives me errors because it cannot  
find a proper definition of the \eqref{} command.


Then AMSTeX is not properly installed. AMS is part of every LaTeX  
distribution so it seems to be a problem with your LaTeX  
distribution.




It is also possible that you have un-checked the Use AMS math  
package automatically in Document-Settings-Math Options.


bravo! you got it. Although I did not (consciously) uncheck  
anything. that option must have gone unchecked automaticaly upon  
importing a Latex file.


As a general remark, I really love LyX, but if I can make friendly  
criticism, I find its user interface a bit clumsy, especially in  
what concerns the setting of different options that is often hidden  
where you (I !!!) would not expect it.


thanks again for the great piece of software and for willing-to-help  
community of users


Stefano

How Many use linux

[Paul Drake]

I use Lyx on linux, and have been since 2003

Cheers

Paul

Re: How Many use linux

[Sven Hoexter]

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:56:31PM +0100, Paul Drake wrote:
 I use Lyx on linux, and have been since 2003

I somehow missed the start of this thread. Did someone already mentaion
the popcon stats for Debian?
http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=lyx

The scaling for the lyx binary package is a bit out of scale since we moved
the latex-xft-fonts/ttf-lyx into the lyx source packaging. All in all it's
a steadily growing userbase using the Debian packages (excluding users using
them indirectly through *buntus and other derivations).

Sven, using LyX on Linux aswell ;)
-- 
They're the cowards We are rebels
We got the power to fight the devil
   [ AIV - We are rebels ]

Re: How Many use linux

[Thomas Løcke]

LyX and Slackware combo. Works a treat!

:o)
/Thomas

Re: How Many use linux

[Gilles Mioni]

I'm using lyx on debian lenny. Litterary author, I'm writing all
my texts with lyx near 12 years ago today. In order to use the
latest stable version of lyx, I compile lyx from source files.

Re: How Many use linux

[William Bray]

Have been using Lyx on Linux for the past nine years. Currently I run  
Lyx on Mac OS X (which is a beefed up Linux OS) and have Lyx on Ubuntu  
as a virtual machine. Happy user!!


Bill

Re: Thanks for outline mode

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 11/09/2009 18:20, rgheck wrote:

On 09/11/2009 11:54 AM, Erez Yerushalmi wrote:

Hey, wow, I didn't even know about this feature.  I just tried it and it
works.  cool !

Thanks Steve for writing about it.
Yes, thanks for the developers amazing work!

To give credit where due, I think Abdel did most of this work, with 
help from elsewhere.


We shall also give credit to Martin who did the original LFUNs and 
Pavel, Jurgen and Vincent who did a lot of fine-tuning and polishing AFAIR.


Abdel.

Re: How Many use linux

[Anthony Campbell]

On 12 Sep 2009, William Bray wrote:
 Have been using Lyx on Linux for the past nine years. Currently I
 run Lyx on Mac OS X (which is a beefed up Linux OS) and have Lyx on
 Ubuntu as a virtual machine. Happy user!!
 
 Bill

LyX on Debian Sid. I first tried LyX a good many years ago but was happy
using Latex so didn't bother with it. But when I started my present
round of publishing books via Lulu (5 so far) I started with LyX and
found it cut the work down by at least 70 per cent.

Anthony




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Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux
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and sceptical articles)

Re: Karmic Koala update slows down lyx

[Steve Litt]

On Saturday 12 September 2009 09:34:02 Sam Liddicott wrote:
 The most recent Karmic Koala updates make updating the Lyx caret (text
 position) very slow.

 If I click the left-arrow, it takes a second before the caret is seen in
 the new position and the old position is not erased properly.

 This may not be a problem with Lyx, but I'm curious to know if other
 users have the same problem.

 Sam

What's the exact LyX version (help-about)?

What's the exact version of your Qt?

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Re: Karmic Koala update slows down lyx

[Uwe Stöhr]

Steve Litt schrieb:


On Saturday 12 September 2009 09:34:02 Sam Liddicott wrote:

The most recent Karmic Koala updates make updating the Lyx caret (text
position) very slow.


What is Karmic Koala?

regards Uwe

Re: Vertical spacing of matrices

[Yago]

See the page Nr. 2 in the document ortomatem.pdf refered in the Lyx's Math 
Manual, or pages Nrs. 6, 8 and 13 in the same document;and the reference to the 
ISO 31 in the page Nr. 18 about the round brackets. All the trigonometric 
functions without brackets I suppose not only for naval military uses and not 
for my personal use.
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de
To: Yago diazd...@ono.com
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Vertical spacing of matrices


 Yago schrieb:
 
 For example when you say,
 
 (when the sin would not be upright, it would even mean s*i*n*1/2)
 
 you don't remember the lineal functions (archs) in a circle that are 
 typed with the first letter upright, like this:
 
 Sin AM
 
 I meant upright (the opposite of italic) and not uppercase.
 
 Nevertheless, Bruce also described what I meant in his today's post in this 
 email thread: You are 
 using your own typesetting rules making communication with the rest of the 
 world complicted.
 
 The appendix of LyX's Math manual consists of a list of math typesetting 
 rules. You might at least 
 have a look at them in case you have to read math in books that are not 
 specially written for naval 
 military.
 
 regards Uwe

Re: Karmic Koala update slows down lyx

[Uwe Stöhr]

Andre Poenitz schrieb:


The most recent Karmic Koala updates make updating the Lyx caret (text
position) very slow.

What is Karmic Koala?


The next Ubuntu release (9.10)

PS: On Fridays I would have suggested to look at
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=karmic+koala ;-)


Well, I already googled it myself ;-). It is nevertheless a strange that people asking for help 
while the list members first have to google what they are talking about.
Back to the topic Ubuntu 9.10 is not stable and in beta state. I'm wondering why we should care 
about an unreleased OS.


regards Uwe

Re: Re: Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[knauslists]

Now I have tested LyX on Mac OSX 10.6 more thoroughly and the crashes seem to 
appear only when Lyx does some autosaving of the current document 
(Automatisches Speichern des aktuellen Dokuments… is written in the bottom 
bar of the Lyx window – Should be sth. like autosaving current document… in 
the English version). It immediately crashes afterwards. So far I haven't 
recognized crashes elsewhere. It's always the 2-minute-autosaving-crash.
I also deactivated autosaving in the preferences but this strangely does not 
really deactivate it, as after a couple of minutes the bottom bar message 
reoccurs and so do the crashes. I have restarted LyX after changing the 
preferences.

Johannes




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Re: How Many use linux

[Marcelo Acuña]

Lyx in Debian Lenny (before in OpenSuse).



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Re: Vertical spacing of matrices

[Uwe Stöhr]

Yago schrieb:


See the page Nr. 2 in the document ortomatem.pdf refered in the Lyx's Math 
Manual,


There is no such reference.
I googled this:
http://www.tex-tipografia.com/archive/ortomatem.pdf
There the also using round brackets on page 2 (Disposición de fórmulas aisladas)


page and 13


They write there for example
cos2vt
This is inexact wrong because this could mean
cos(2)*v*t or cos(2*v)*t
Moreover this is against the the character omitting rules, see below.


in the same document;and the reference to the ISO 31 in the page Nr. 18 about 
the round brackets.


In the norm it is defined that you _can_ but needn't to omit the brackets. But omitting the brackets 
leads to inexact result:

tan2pt
versus
tan2pt
In the first case I meant tan(2)*p*t, in the second I meant tan(2*p)*t. So you 
see the problem.

Besides this, look at
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funci%C3%B3n_matem%C3%A1tica
all other Wikipedia entries state the same. Typesetting rules are important to be able to 
communicate with each other. You can take any math book, look at webpages, school books, and also 
another LyX user told you as mathematician that your notation is incorrect. So it's up to you to 
change it or to ignore this.


regards Uwe

Re: How Many use linux

[Iain Mac Donald]

LyX in Debian since about 2000.

Re: Vertical spacing of matrices

[Yago]

Uwe, in the page 2 you have on top an specific trigonometric example 
(Blancos) without brackets. And more, when I say that the brackets are no 
necessary is because LaTeX add a little space between the function and his 
argument. So the reality is that LaTeX don't type,


cos2vt

but,

cos 2vt

with a little more space after cos and this is very comprehensive for 
everybody.


Please don't mention me the Wikipedia because this resource isn't at all a 
canon for nothing.


Regards Yago.
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de

To: Yago diazd...@ono.com
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Vertical spacing of matrices



Yago schrieb:

See the page Nr. 2 in the document ortomatem.pdf refered in the Lyx's 
Math Manual,


There is no such reference.
I googled this:
http://www.tex-tipografia.com/archive/ortomatem.pdf
There the also using round brackets on page 2 (Disposición de fórmulas 
aisladas)



page and 13


They write there for example
cos2vt
This is inexact wrong because this could mean
cos(2)*v*t or cos(2*v)*t
Moreover this is against the the character omitting rules, see below.

in the same document;and the reference to the ISO 31 in the page Nr. 18 
about the round brackets.


In the norm it is defined that you _can_ but needn't to omit the brackets. 
But omitting the brackets leads to inexact result:

tan2pt
versus
tan2pt
In the first case I meant tan(2)*p*t, in the second I meant tan(2*p)*t. So 
you see the problem.


Besides this, look at
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funci%C3%B3n_matem%C3%A1tica
all other Wikipedia entries state the same. Typesetting rules are 
important to be able to communicate with each other. You can take any math 
book, look at webpages, school books, and also another LyX user told you 
as mathematician that your notation is incorrect. So it's up to you to 
change it or to ignore this.


regards Uwe 

Lyx 1.6.4.1 and snown leopard

[Gesualdo Scutari]

Dear all,

i'm writing for your help. I just updated my Mac OS to Snown Leopard.  
I also installed the last version of lyx available for mac, namely  
1.6.4.1.
Unfortunately I have been experiencing the following problem: every,  
let us say, 4 minutes a OS windows appears that repeatedly tells me  
Lyx quit unexpectedly when Lyx continues to run without issues in the  
background. This is quite  annoying because I have to stop using lyx  
and close the windows.

COuld you please help me in fixing this issue?

Many thanks in advance for your assistance.

BEst - ALdo

Question on adding WYSIWY* math symbols

[Philip Mayer]

Hi everybody,

I am wondering about how to add new symbols to the WYSIWY* math editor. 
I noticed that "normal" delimiters such as [ ] and { } are supported; 
however, I require the double brackets [[ ]] used for semantics.


Of course, I can add this with ERT (\llbracket - Package stmaryrd) and 
it shows just fine in DVI/PDF, however I'd really like have it displayed 
in the math editor view as a symbol.


So, my question is: Is there a straightforward way of adding support for 
additional symbols? Perhaps editing some symbol table file? Or coding a 
plugin?


Sorry if this has been answered - I'd appreciate an URL then ;)

Thanks,

Philip

"eqref" not working properly

[Stefano Baroni]

Hi! I am editing a file imported from raw LaTeX. After adding some  
text, I started inserting cross-references to equations selecting the  
"()" style. Ti my surprise, the subsequent LaTeX  
compilation gives me errors because it cannot find a proper definition  
of the "\eqref{}" command. I am using LyX 1.6.3 on Mac OS X 10.5.8.  
Used the same cross-reference style lots of times before. Any  
suggestions on what may be going wrong? Thanks - SB


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Re: the [[Lyx] explicit mail subject] thread

[Joe(theWordy)Philbrook]

 Note:  the quoted texts below are all liberally "snipped"... 
for full context see the thread...

It would appear that on Sep 2, Delta moins did innocently start this thread:

> there is no keyword in the mail subject that tell people
> "this comes from the Lyx users list". It's very messing because
> you cannot filter the mails efficiently.

> I don't know if it should be done automaticaly by the list
> system or if people that send mail should add something like
> I've done for example manually.

It would appear that on Sep 2, Manveru did say:

> Just sort or filter your e-mails by From: field from header of your
> mails. All e-mail clients support this. At least all good e-mail
> clients.


It would appear that on Sep 2, Helge Hafting did say:

> Delta moins wrote:
> > Ok I knew this solution and yeah it works. I will use it.
> > If I'm the only for who an explicit mail subject lacks it's ok.
> 
> There are more who wants this, but also quite a few who don't want it. The
> mail can be sorted by other headers than "Subject".
> Once the lyx mailing list arrives in a folder of its own anyway, having "[LyX]
> in every subject becomes somewhat irritating.

>From my point of view that would "becomes *_VERY_* irritating"...
I subscribe to a list that does do this And I wish they didn't.

But like Helge: Who on Sep 9, also did say:

=> This list was created without subject manipulation, please just respect that.
=> I subscribe to some lists that do mangle the subject. I don't like it, but I
=> don't request a change. It is the list maintainter's choice to make.

I don't ask them to change it... I just sigh a lot...


It would appear that on Sep 2, Murray Eisenberg did say:

> I agree with the O.P. on this. This is something that, surely, is easily fixed
> at the server end, so that each message going out from the server has, say,
> "[LyX]" prepended to the subject.
> 
> Many other mailing lists do this. There should be no need for the subscribers
> to have to filter.

It would appear that on Sep 2, Christian Ridderström did say:

> On Wed, 2 Sep 2009, Manveru wrote:
> > There is many voices in favour of such feature. But not a lot of
> > people vote against. If may I suggest, maybe someone can create a
> > poll/survey for LyX users list subscribers.
> 
> I think the many voices that don't like it are tired of having this
> recurring discussion  ;-)

I suspect that just as many mailing lists differ on this as do on the
"Reply-To:" munging issue somebody mentioned... Because there is such
a thing as free choice on operating systems, mail servers, and
mail clients, neither choice {for either issue} can possibly be a
"one 'size' pleases all" solution. And like "top vs bottom" posting
or the infamous "vi vs emacs" debates, these are all "holy wars" that
simply can NOT be forever put to rest...

EXCEPT that, at least in the case of "Subject: tagging" (IE [LyX]) then 
there is the potential for it to become a non-issue. All it would take 
is for the list server(s) to evolve to include a configuration choice
for tagged, or non tagged Subject: headers, just as there is usually a
choice for digest or non-digest... 

Personally I don't think that's ever going to happen any more than I
think anybody will ever offer a list server with a smart digest option
that includes some kind of "header like" tag in each individual message
of the digest that can be used by a digest only subscriber to request a
personal resend of just those individual messages they wanted to reply
to. Which would provide a way for digest users to avoid messing with the
threaded message reply path.

Like I said, it ain't gonna happen... 

But wouldn't it be nice if I was wrong?




It would appear that on Sep 2, Rich Shepard did say:

>   As long as I've subscribed to this mail list, all messages have the
> subject line prefixed with [Lyx]. Perhaps that's because all I've used is
> procmail and (al)pine as my MUA, but it's always been there.

Hmmmnnn I myself use procmail (with only a minimal understanding of it)
I would be very interested in seeing your ~/.procmail.rc recipe for the
lyx mailing list...

And if perchance, you happen to know how I could use procmail to
strip such tags from the messages I get from lists that do add them,
would you kindly explain it to me???

Because if I knew how to do that I'd no longer mind it when some list
manager decides to add Subject: tags to a list I'm reading...


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Re: Vertical spacing of matrices

[Uwe Stöhr]

Yago schrieb:


For example when you say,

(when the "sin" would not be upright, it would even mean s*i*n*1/2)

you don't remember the "lineal functions" (archs) in a circle that are 
typed with the first letter upright, like this:


Sin AM


I meant upright (the opposite of italic) and not uppercase.

Nevertheless, Bruce also described what I meant in his today's post in this email thread: You are 
using your own typesetting rules making communication with the rest of the world complicted.


The appendix of LyX's Math manual consists of a list of math typesetting rules. You might at least 
have a look at them in case you have to read math in books that are not specially written for naval 
military.


regards Uwe

Re: "eqref" not working properly

[Uwe Stöhr]

Stefano Baroni schrieb:

Hi! I am editing a file imported from raw LaTeX. After adding some text, 
I started inserting cross-references to equations selecting the 
"()" style. Ti my surprise, the subsequent LaTeX compilation 
gives me errors because it cannot find a proper definition of the 
"\eqref{}" command.


Then AMSTeX is not properly installed. AMS is part of every LaTeX distribution so it seems to be a 
problem with your LaTeX distribution.


regards Uwe

Karmic Koala update slows down lyx

[Sam Liddicott]

The most recent Karmic Koala updates make updating the Lyx caret (text 
position) very slow.


If I click the left-arrow, it takes a second before the caret is seen in 
the new position and the old position is not erased properly.


This may not be a problem with Lyx, but I'm curious to know if other 
users have the same problem.


Sam

Re: Question on adding WYSIWY* math symbols

[Uwe Stöhr]

Philip Mayer schrieb:

So, my question is: Is there a straightforward way of adding support for 
additional symbols?


No. Support for new symbols needs to be programmed directly in LyX, especially when the symbols 
require special LaTeX-packages as in your case. LyX needs to know how to display the symbol.


regards Uwe

p.s. (What you can do is to modify the file "symbols", but be patient!)

Re: "eqref" not working properly

[James C. Sutherland]

On Sep 12, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


Stefano Baroni schrieb:

Hi! I am editing a file imported from raw LaTeX. After adding some  
text, I started inserting cross-references to equations selecting  
the "()" style. Ti my surprise, the subsequent LaTeX  
compilation gives me errors because it cannot find a proper  
definition of the "\eqref{}" command.


Then AMSTeX is not properly installed. AMS is part of every LaTeX  
distribution so it seems to be a problem with your LaTeX distribution.




It is also possible that you have un-checked the "Use AMS math package  
automatically" in Document->Settings->Math Options.

Fwd: "eqref" not working properly

[James C. Sutherland]

Begin forwarded message:


From: Stefano Baroni 
Date: September 12, 2009 8:27:06 AM MDT
To: James C.Sutherland 
Subject: Re: "eqref" not working properly


On Sep 12, 2009, at 3:47 PM, James C. Sutherland wrote:



On Sep 12, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:


Stefano Baroni schrieb:

Hi! I am editing a file imported from raw LaTeX. After adding  
some text, I started inserting cross-references to equations  
selecting the "()" style. Ti my surprise, the  
subsequent LaTeX compilation gives me errors because it cannot  
find a proper definition of the "\eqref{}" command.


Then AMSTeX is not properly installed. AMS is part of every LaTeX  
distribution so it seems to be a problem with your LaTeX  
distribution.




It is also possible that you have un-checked the "Use AMS math  
package automatically" in Document->Settings->Math Options.


bravo! you got it. Although I did not (consciously) uncheck  
anything. that option must have gone unchecked automaticaly upon  
importing a Latex file.


As a general remark, I really love LyX, but if I can make friendly  
criticism, I find its user interface a bit clumsy, especially in  
what concerns the setting of different options that is often hidden  
where you ("I" !!!) would not expect it.


thanks again for the great piece of software and for willing-to-help  
community of users


Stefano

How Many use linux

[Paul Drake]

I use Lyx on linux, and have been since 2003

Cheers

Paul

Re: How Many use linux

[Sven Hoexter]

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:56:31PM +0100, Paul Drake wrote:
> I use Lyx on linux, and have been since 2003

I somehow missed the start of this thread. Did someone already mentaion
the popcon stats for Debian?
http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=lyx

The scaling for the lyx binary package is a bit out of scale since we moved
the latex-xft-fonts/ttf-lyx into the lyx source packaging. All in all it's
a steadily growing userbase using the Debian packages (excluding users using
them indirectly through *buntus and other derivations).

Sven, using LyX on Linux aswell ;)
-- 
They're the cowards We are rebels
We got the power to fight the devil
   [ AIV - We are rebels ]

Re: How Many use linux

[Thomas Løcke]

LyX and Slackware combo. Works a treat!

:o)
/Thomas

Re: How Many use linux

[Gilles Mioni]

I'm using lyx on debian lenny. Litterary author, I'm writing all
my texts with lyx near 12 years ago today. In order to use the
latest stable version of lyx, I compile lyx from source files.

Re: How Many use linux

[William Bray]

Have been using Lyx on Linux for the past nine years. Currently I run  
Lyx on Mac OS X (which is a beefed up Linux OS) and have Lyx on Ubuntu  
as a virtual machine. Happy user!!


Bill

Re: Thanks for outline mode

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 11/09/2009 18:20, rgheck wrote:

On 09/11/2009 11:54 AM, Erez Yerushalmi wrote:

Hey, wow, I didn't even know about this feature.  I just tried it and it
works.  cool !

Thanks Steve for writing about it.
Yes, thanks for the developers amazing work!

To give credit where due, I think Abdel did most of this work, with 
help from elsewhere.


We shall also give credit to Martin who did the original LFUNs and 
Pavel, Jurgen and Vincent who did a lot of fine-tuning and polishing AFAIR.


Abdel.

Re: How Many use linux

[Anthony Campbell]

On 12 Sep 2009, William Bray wrote:
> Have been using Lyx on Linux for the past nine years. Currently I
> run Lyx on Mac OS X (which is a beefed up Linux OS) and have Lyx on
> Ubuntu as a virtual machine. Happy user!!
> 
> Bill

LyX on Debian Sid. I first tried LyX a good many years ago but was happy
using Latex so didn't bother with it. But when I started my present
round of publishing books via Lulu (5 so far) I started with LyX and
found it cut the work down by at least 70 per cent.

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Re: Karmic Koala update slows down lyx

[Steve Litt]

On Saturday 12 September 2009 09:34:02 Sam Liddicott wrote:
> The most recent Karmic Koala updates make updating the Lyx caret (text
> position) very slow.
>
> If I click the left-arrow, it takes a second before the caret is seen in
> the new position and the old position is not erased properly.
>
> This may not be a problem with Lyx, but I'm curious to know if other
> users have the same problem.
>
> Sam

What's the exact LyX version (help->about)?

What's the exact version of your Qt?

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Re: Karmic Koala update slows down lyx

[Uwe Stöhr]

Steve Litt schrieb:


On Saturday 12 September 2009 09:34:02 Sam Liddicott wrote:

The most recent Karmic Koala updates make updating the Lyx caret (text
position) very slow.


What is Karmic Koala?

regards Uwe

Re: Vertical spacing of matrices

[Yago]

See the page Nr. 2 in the document ortomatem.pdf refered in the Lyx's Math 
Manual, or pages Nrs. 6, 8 and 13 in the same document;and the reference to the 
ISO 31 in the page Nr. 18 about the round brackets. All the trigonometric 
functions without brackets I suppose not only for naval military uses and not 
for my personal use.
- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Stöhr" 
To: "Yago" 
Cc: "LyX-Users" 
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Vertical spacing of matrices


> Yago schrieb:
> 
>> For example when you say,
>> 
>> (when the "sin" would not be upright, it would even mean s*i*n*1/2)
>> 
>> you don't remember the "lineal functions" (archs) in a circle that are 
>> typed with the first letter upright, like this:
>> 
>> Sin AM
> 
> I meant upright (the opposite of italic) and not uppercase.
> 
> Nevertheless, Bruce also described what I meant in his today's post in this 
> email thread: You are 
> using your own typesetting rules making communication with the rest of the 
> world complicted.
> 
> The appendix of LyX's Math manual consists of a list of math typesetting 
> rules. You might at least 
> have a look at them in case you have to read math in books that are not 
> specially written for naval 
> military.
> 
> regards Uwe

Re: Karmic Koala update slows down lyx

[Uwe Stöhr]

Andre Poenitz schrieb:


The most recent Karmic Koala updates make updating the Lyx caret (text
position) very slow.

What is Karmic Koala?


The next Ubuntu release (9.10)

PS: On Fridays I would have suggested to look at
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=karmic+koala ;-)


Well, I already googled it myself ;-). It is nevertheless a strange that people asking for help 
while the list members first have to google what they are talking about.
Back to the topic Ubuntu 9.10 is not stable and in beta state. I'm wondering why we should care 
about an unreleased OS.


regards Uwe

Re: Re: Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[knauslists]

Now I have tested LyX on Mac OSX 10.6 more thoroughly and the crashes seem to 
appear only when Lyx does some autosaving of the current document 
("Automatisches Speichern des aktuellen Dokuments…" is written in the bottom 
bar of the Lyx window – Should be sth. like "autosaving current document…" in 
the English version). It immediately crashes afterwards. So far I haven't 
recognized crashes elsewhere. It's always the 2-minute-autosaving-crash.
I also deactivated autosaving in the preferences but this strangely does not 
really deactivate it, as after a couple of minutes the bottom bar message 
reoccurs and so do the crashes. I have restarted LyX after changing the 
preferences.

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Re: How Many use linux

[Marcelo Acuña]

Lyx in Debian Lenny (before in OpenSuse).



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Re: Vertical spacing of matrices

[Uwe Stöhr]

Yago schrieb:


See the page Nr. 2 in the document ortomatem.pdf refered in the Lyx's Math 
Manual,


There is no such reference.
I googled this:
http://www.tex-tipografia.com/archive/ortomatem.pdf
There the also using round brackets on page 2 (Disposición de fórmulas aisladas)


page and 13


They write there for example
cos2vt
This is inexact wrong because this could mean
cos(2)*v*t or cos(2*v)*t
Moreover this is against the the character omitting rules, see below.


in the same document;and the reference to the ISO 31 in the page Nr. 18 about 
the round brackets.


In the norm it is defined that you _can_ but needn't to omit the brackets. But omitting the brackets 
leads to inexact result:

tan2pt
versus
tan2pt
In the first case I meant tan(2)*p*t, in the second I meant tan(2*p)*t. So you 
see the problem.

Besides this, look at
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funci%C3%B3n_matem%C3%A1tica
all other Wikipedia entries state the same. Typesetting rules are important to be able to 
communicate with each other. You can take any math book, look at webpages, school books, and also 
another LyX user told you as mathematician that your notation is incorrect. So it's up to you to 
change it or to ignore this.


regards Uwe

Re: How Many use linux

[Iain Mac Donald]

LyX in Debian since about 2000.

Re: Vertical spacing of matrices

[Yago]

Uwe, in the page 2 you have on top an specific trigonometric example 
(Blancos) without brackets. And more, when I say that the brackets are no 
necessary is because LaTeX add a little space between the function and his 
argument. So the reality is that LaTeX don't type,


cos2vt

but,

cos 2vt

with a little more space after "cos" and this is very comprehensive for 
everybody.


Please don't mention me the Wikipedia because this resource isn't at all a 
"canon" for nothing.


Regards Yago.
- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Stöhr" 

To: "Yago" 
Cc: "LyX-Users" 
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Vertical spacing of matrices



Yago schrieb:

See the page Nr. 2 in the document ortomatem.pdf refered in the Lyx's 
Math Manual,


There is no such reference.
I googled this:
http://www.tex-tipografia.com/archive/ortomatem.pdf
There the also using round brackets on page 2 (Disposición de fórmulas 
aisladas)



page and 13


They write there for example
cos2vt
This is inexact wrong because this could mean
cos(2)*v*t or cos(2*v)*t
Moreover this is against the the character omitting rules, see below.

in the same document;and the reference to the ISO 31 in the page Nr. 18 
about the round brackets.


In the norm it is defined that you _can_ but needn't to omit the brackets. 
But omitting the brackets leads to inexact result:

tan2pt
versus
tan2pt
In the first case I meant tan(2)*p*t, in the second I meant tan(2*p)*t. So 
you see the problem.


Besides this, look at
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funci%C3%B3n_matem%C3%A1tica
all other Wikipedia entries state the same. Typesetting rules are 
important to be able to communicate with each other. You can take any math 
book, look at webpages, school books, and also another LyX user told you 
as mathematician that your notation is incorrect. So it's up to you to 
change it or to ignore this.


regards Uwe 

Lyx 1.6.4.1 and snown leopard

[Gesualdo Scutari]

Dear all,

i'm writing for your help. I just updated my Mac OS to Snown Leopard.  
I also installed the last version of lyx available for mac, namely  
1.6.4.1.
Unfortunately I have been experiencing the following problem: every,  
let us say, 4 minutes a OS windows appears that repeatedly tells me  
Lyx quit unexpectedly when Lyx continues to run without issues in the  
background. This is quite  annoying because I have to stop using lyx  
and close the windows.

COuld you please help me in fixing this issue?

Many thanks in advance for your assistance.

BEst - ALdo