Re: automatique reference of sub figure
On 2012-02-05, Omar Cheikhrouhou (ISET) wrote: I use the following preambule \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand{\ref}[1]{\mbox{\autoref{#1 to add the word Figure when referencing figure. However, the word figure is not added when referencing sub-figure. For example it write 3a instead of Figure 3a. Please, what to add in order to get the word Figure before number of fig I suppose you also load a package providing \autoref in the preamble. Please look up its documentation to see whether/how it cooperates with the subfig package. As a fallback solution, add Figure by hand for references to subfigures. Günter
Re: alpha-numeric Section Numbering
On 2012-02-04, stefano franchi wrote: On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Boris Seincher bo...@seincher.de wrote: I want to use LyX wor a law paper in german. When I use Part, Chapter, Section and so on I get a sctructure like this: I., 1, 1.1 ... However I want something like this: A, I, 1, a), aa), (i), (ii). Is it somehow possible? There are several ways to achieve this: Maybe there is already a special LaTeX package for your document class e.g. at CTAN. One way to do it is by redefining the corresponding commands: \thepart, \thechapter, etc. ... This code may not get you all the way there, though. It only changes the style of the counters, not the overall styling of the sectioning commands. For instance, you will still get Part A not just A. A better solution may be to use the titlesec package (or the memoir class which includes the titlesec package). Take a look at section 9.2 of the manual (available on Ctan and probably on your own installation: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/titlesec/). Titlesec will allow you complete control over the sectioning commands Another alternative is to use the KOMA-script classes that provide many well documented configuration options including section heading styling. See scrguide.pdf or the English version scrguien.pdf on CTAN or your local installation). In either case, you'll get your desidered numbering scheme in the pdf only. Lyx will still show you arabic figures on screen. You would have to write a module to fix what you see on screen as well (although a bug made it impossible a few versions back. Things may have changed). Günter
Re: EOL characters removed when pasting a source code into a program listing section
On 2012-02-03, Marcin Zajączkowski wrote: ... I just did CTRL-V (normal Edit - Paste). When after a reply I tried with paste special Plain Text keeps as expected the end of line characters while Plain Text, Join Lines not. So, generally thanks for your explanation, but don't you think that for a Program Listening section because of its usage normal Edit - Paste should keep EOL characters? This makes sense, indeed. Can you file a bug/enhancement report? Günter
Re: automatique reference of sub figure
On 02/05/2012 11:41 PM, Omar Cheikhrouhou (ISET) wrote: Hello, I use the following preambule \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand{\ref}[1]{\mbox{\autoref{#1 to add the word « Figure » when referencing figure. However, the word figure is not added when referencing sub-figure. For example it write 3a instead of Figure 3a. Please, what to add in order to get the word Figure before number of fig Try with \providecommand{\subfigureautorefname}{\figureautorefname} or even simpler \providecommand{\subfigureautorefname}{Figure}
Re: errors typesetting UserGuide.lyx
Thanks. As convert is now working, I'll put off installing software I probably don't actually need. I am able to convert the problematic files (such as mobius.eps) to pngs at the command line using convert manually. The problem appears to be that my installation of LyX is not using convert. As one of the wiki pages recommend, I ran this command: lyx -dbg graphics A bunch of graphic formats are listed as loadable. Pdf files are not; is this correct? I confirmed that I only have one copy of convert and that it's in my path. I looked at LyX - Preferences - File Handling - Converters - EPS - PNG This shows 'convert $$i $$o', which I believe is correct. I show only two PDF converters, PDF(ps2pdf) to EPS and to Postscript. Should there be more? -- Rich On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote: Assuming convert is really the problem, perhaps you can try a different imagemagick installation. Two options would be Macports, http://www.macports.org/install.php or Fink, http://www.finkproject.org/download/index.php?phpLang=en You only need one of these. Most people seem to choose Macports nowadays, but it really doesn't matter for your purposes. After following the installation instructions for one of these package managers, you can then install imagemagick by typing either sudo port install imagemagick (for Macports) or fink install imagemagick (for Fink). This won't interfere with the MacTeX installation, so it can't hurt to try. I have used both methods and found convert to work fine. Jens On Feb 5, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Richard Talley wrote: So I found a problem with the 'convert' utility (part of ImageMagick 6.6.9) that MacTex 2011 installs. The installation fails to install the necessary xml files that 'convert' needs to function correctly at the command line. Over at the macosx-tex mailing list, Dick Koch provided a link to the necessary xml files with this comment: We supply convert mainly for tex4html, thinking that users familiar with the Unix version will want to install the full ImageMagick. So the conversion you are using was never tested. So I got 'convert' working at the command line. Unfortunately, this turned out to be a red herring. I still can't typeset LyX's user manual from within LyX. Pdf and eps files (such as mobius.eps) still don't display within LyX ('Error converting to loadable format') and typesetting still fails. I tried exporting the LyX user manual to LaTeX(plain) and typesetting the resulting TeX file in TeXShop. That actually works, except cross references break ('see section ??' in the resulting pdf). But the pdf and eps files that are problematic in LyX typeset in TeXShop. What am I missing? -- Rich On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.comwrote: I had been running MacTex 2009 and Lyx 1.6.8. and using them extensively for technical documentation and homework assignments. I upgraded this morning to MacTex 2011 (using the Tex Live Utility to bring all the packages up to date) and Lyx 2.0.2. I tried to create a pdf of the UserGuide (located in /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/doc/ - opens as read only) Four eps files are generating 'Error converting to loadable format' in the LyX document. The LaTeX error dialog shows: Package pdftex.def Error: File `34_Applications_LyX_app_Contents_Resources_doc_clipart_mobius.pdf} Using draft setting for this image. Try typing return to proceed. If that doesn't work, type X return to quit. - OR - Package pdftex.def Error: File `42_Applications_LyX_app_Contents_Resources_doc_clipart_escher-lsd.pdf}} \hfill{}\subfloat[\label{f... So my system doesn't seem to be converting eps files correctly into pdfs for LyX to use. Any suggestions for troubleshooting? I've saved the complete LaTeX log, but it's huge and I'm not sure what's relevant. -- Rich MacBook Pro/OS X 10.6.8
small beef with LyX on the Mac
I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... el
Re: small beef with LyX on the Mac
On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:43:34 +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... el Hitting the cursor or tab key is to much of a problem/effort? Charlie
Re: small beef with LyX on the Mac
This has to with muscle memory consistency with OS X standards. If I close a document with unsaved changes in TextEdit or Pages, hitting Return saves and hitting Space discards. LyX is inconsistent with this expectation of Mac users. Charlie did write that it was a 'small beef'. ;o) BTW, I just discovered a fairly consistent way to crash LyX 2.02 on my Mac. If I bring up a new document in LyX, type a word, then close the document with Command-W, and finally discard the changes by choosing 'Don't Save', then LyX stops responding to Command-N. If I then use File - New to try to open a new document, LyX usually crashes. Interesting. LyX is still more robust than most of the multi-platform software that I run on my Mac. I just wish I could solve my problem with typesetting the User's Manual. -- Rich On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM, aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote: On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:43:34 +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... el Hitting the cursor or tab key is to much of a problem/effort? Charlie
Re: small beef with LyX on the Mac
Unfortunately Apple have themselves broken the continuity here with Lion. Now when you close a native application like TeXtEdit, the old shortcuts for don't save no longer work (neither space bar nor Apple-D). Instead you have to press Apple-Delete. So in other words, if we assume that Lion and pre-Lion OS X are still in wide use, there is (sadly) no single standard Apple behavior that LyX could be expected to conform to. Jens On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Rich Talley wrote: This has to with muscle memory consistency with OS X standards. If I close a document with unsaved changes in TextEdit or Pages, hitting Return saves and hitting Space discards. LyX is inconsistent with this expectation of Mac users. Charlie did write that it was a 'small beef'. ;o) BTW, I just discovered a fairly consistent way to crash LyX 2.02 on my Mac. If I bring up a new document in LyX, type a word, then close the document with Command-W, and finally discard the changes by choosing 'Don't Save', then LyX stops responding to Command-N. If I then use File - New to try to open a new document, LyX usually crashes. Interesting. LyX is still more robust than most of the multi-platform software that I run on my Mac. I just wish I could solve my problem with typesetting the User's Manual. -- Rich On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM, aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote: On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:43:34 +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... el Hitting the cursor or tab key is to much of a problem/effort? Charlie
Re: errors typesetting UserGuide.lyx
I think this can only be solved if you save the user's guide to an external file, bisect that new file until you localize the error to a reasonably small portion of the file, and then inspect the LaTeX log. Jens On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Rich Talley wrote: Thanks. As convert is now working, I'll put off installing software I probably don't actually need. I am able to convert the problematic files (such as mobius.eps) to pngs at the command line using convert manually. The problem appears to be that my installation of LyX is not using convert. As one of the wiki pages recommend, I ran this command: lyx -dbg graphics A bunch of graphic formats are listed as loadable. Pdf files are not; is this correct? I confirmed that I only have one copy of convert and that it's in my path. I looked at LyX - Preferences - File Handling - Converters - EPS - PNG This shows 'convert $$i $$o', which I believe is correct. I show only two PDF converters, PDF(ps2pdf) to EPS and to Postscript. Should there be more? -- Rich On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote: Assuming convert is really the problem, perhaps you can try a different imagemagick installation. Two options would be Macports, http://www.macports.org/install.php or Fink, http://www.finkproject.org/download/index.php?phpLang=en You only need one of these. Most people seem to choose Macports nowadays, but it really doesn't matter for your purposes. After following the installation instructions for one of these package managers, you can then install imagemagick by typing either sudo port install imagemagick (for Macports) or fink install imagemagick (for Fink). This won't interfere with the MacTeX installation, so it can't hurt to try. I have used both methods and found convert to work fine. Jens On Feb 5, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Richard Talley wrote: So I found a problem with the 'convert' utility (part of ImageMagick 6.6.9) that MacTex 2011 installs. The installation fails to install the necessary xml files that 'convert' needs to function correctly at the command line. Over at the macosx-tex mailing list, Dick Koch provided a link to the necessary xml files with this comment: We supply convert mainly for tex4html, thinking that users familiar with the Unix version will want to install the full ImageMagick. So the conversion you are using was never tested. So I got 'convert' working at the command line. Unfortunately, this turned out to be a red herring. I still can't typeset LyX's user manual from within LyX. Pdf and eps files (such as mobius.eps) still don't display within LyX ('Error converting to loadable format') and typesetting still fails. I tried exporting the LyX user manual to LaTeX(plain) and typesetting the resulting TeX file in TeXShop. That actually works, except cross references break ('see section ??' in the resulting pdf). But the pdf and eps files that are problematic in LyX typeset in TeXShop. What am I missing? -- Rich On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote: I had been running MacTex 2009 and Lyx 1.6.8. and using them extensively for technical documentation and homework assignments. I upgraded this morning to MacTex 2011 (using the Tex Live Utility to bring all the packages up to date) and Lyx 2.0.2. I tried to create a pdf of the UserGuide (located in /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/doc/ - opens as read only) Four eps files are generating 'Error converting to loadable format' in the LyX document. The LaTeX error dialog shows: Package pdftex.def Error: File `34_Applications_LyX_app_Contents_Resources_doc_clipart_mobius.pdf} Using draft setting for this image. Try typing return to proceed. If that doesn't work, type X return to quit. - OR - Package pdftex.def Error: File `42_Applications_LyX_app_Contents_Resources_doc_clipart_escher-lsd.pdf}} \hfill{}\subfloat[\label{f... So my system doesn't seem to be converting eps files correctly into pdfs for LyX to use. Any suggestions for troubleshooting? I've saved the complete LaTeX log, but it's huge and I'm not sure what's relevant. -- Rich MacBook Pro/OS X 10.6.8
Re: small beef with LyX on the Mac
Good points. I'm running Snow Leopard and have been avoiding Lion. I switched to OS X from Windows several years ago, but maybe it's time to start looking at Linux distributions again. All good things come to an end. At least almost all my data is in LyX format, plain text, or easily exported formats. I've been careful about this. -- Rich On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote: Unfortunately Apple have themselves broken the continuity here with Lion. Now when you close a native application like TeXtEdit, the old shortcuts for don't save no longer work (neither space bar nor Apple-D). Instead you have to press Apple-Delete. So in other words, if we assume that Lion and pre-Lion OS X are still in wide use, there is (sadly) no single standard Apple behavior that LyX could be expected to conform to. Jens On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Rich Talley wrote: This has to with muscle memory consistency with OS X standards. If I close a document with unsaved changes in TextEdit or Pages, hitting Return saves and hitting Space discards. LyX is inconsistent with this expectation of Mac users. Charlie did write that it was a 'small beef'. ;o) BTW, I just discovered a fairly consistent way to crash LyX 2.02 on my Mac. If I bring up a new document in LyX, type a word, then close the document with Command-W, and finally discard the changes by choosing 'Don't Save', then LyX stops responding to Command-N. If I then use File - New to try to open a new document, LyX usually crashes. Interesting. LyX is still more robust than most of the multi-platform software that I run on my Mac. I just wish I could solve my problem with typesetting the User's Manual. -- Rich On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM, aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote: On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:43:34 +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... el Hitting the cursor or tab key is to much of a problem/effort? Charlie
Changing the lyxlist (labeling environment) formatting
I am using LyX 2.0.0 under Ubuntu 11.10. I'd like to globally change the format of the header in the labeling environments (aka. lyxlist in the exported TeX source), bsaically bolding the text and increasing the allocated indent. I realise I can do this on a line-by-line basis, but this seems to defeat the purpose of using LyX in the first place. Is there something I can put in the preamble to make the change for the whole document? Cheers, Jason
Re: automatique reference of sub figure
On 2012-02-05, Omar Cheikhrouhou (ISET) wrote: I use the following preambule \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand{\ref}[1]{\mbox{\autoref{#1 to add the word Figure when referencing figure. However, the word figure is not added when referencing sub-figure. For example it write 3a instead of Figure 3a. Please, what to add in order to get the word Figure before number of fig I suppose you also load a package providing \autoref in the preamble. Please look up its documentation to see whether/how it cooperates with the subfig package. As a fallback solution, add Figure by hand for references to subfigures. Günter
Re: alpha-numeric Section Numbering
On 2012-02-04, stefano franchi wrote: On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Boris Seincher bo...@seincher.de wrote: I want to use LyX wor a law paper in german. When I use Part, Chapter, Section and so on I get a sctructure like this: I., 1, 1.1 ... However I want something like this: A, I, 1, a), aa), (i), (ii). Is it somehow possible? There are several ways to achieve this: Maybe there is already a special LaTeX package for your document class e.g. at CTAN. One way to do it is by redefining the corresponding commands: \thepart, \thechapter, etc. ... This code may not get you all the way there, though. It only changes the style of the counters, not the overall styling of the sectioning commands. For instance, you will still get Part A not just A. A better solution may be to use the titlesec package (or the memoir class which includes the titlesec package). Take a look at section 9.2 of the manual (available on Ctan and probably on your own installation: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/titlesec/). Titlesec will allow you complete control over the sectioning commands Another alternative is to use the KOMA-script classes that provide many well documented configuration options including section heading styling. See scrguide.pdf or the English version scrguien.pdf on CTAN or your local installation). In either case, you'll get your desidered numbering scheme in the pdf only. Lyx will still show you arabic figures on screen. You would have to write a module to fix what you see on screen as well (although a bug made it impossible a few versions back. Things may have changed). Günter
Re: EOL characters removed when pasting a source code into a program listing section
On 2012-02-03, Marcin Zajączkowski wrote: ... I just did CTRL-V (normal Edit - Paste). When after a reply I tried with paste special Plain Text keeps as expected the end of line characters while Plain Text, Join Lines not. So, generally thanks for your explanation, but don't you think that for a Program Listening section because of its usage normal Edit - Paste should keep EOL characters? This makes sense, indeed. Can you file a bug/enhancement report? Günter
Re: automatique reference of sub figure
On 02/05/2012 11:41 PM, Omar Cheikhrouhou (ISET) wrote: Hello, I use the following preambule \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand{\ref}[1]{\mbox{\autoref{#1 to add the word « Figure » when referencing figure. However, the word figure is not added when referencing sub-figure. For example it write 3a instead of Figure 3a. Please, what to add in order to get the word Figure before number of fig Try with \providecommand{\subfigureautorefname}{\figureautorefname} or even simpler \providecommand{\subfigureautorefname}{Figure}
Re: errors typesetting UserGuide.lyx
Thanks. As convert is now working, I'll put off installing software I probably don't actually need. I am able to convert the problematic files (such as mobius.eps) to pngs at the command line using convert manually. The problem appears to be that my installation of LyX is not using convert. As one of the wiki pages recommend, I ran this command: lyx -dbg graphics A bunch of graphic formats are listed as loadable. Pdf files are not; is this correct? I confirmed that I only have one copy of convert and that it's in my path. I looked at LyX - Preferences - File Handling - Converters - EPS - PNG This shows 'convert $$i $$o', which I believe is correct. I show only two PDF converters, PDF(ps2pdf) to EPS and to Postscript. Should there be more? -- Rich On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote: Assuming convert is really the problem, perhaps you can try a different imagemagick installation. Two options would be Macports, http://www.macports.org/install.php or Fink, http://www.finkproject.org/download/index.php?phpLang=en You only need one of these. Most people seem to choose Macports nowadays, but it really doesn't matter for your purposes. After following the installation instructions for one of these package managers, you can then install imagemagick by typing either sudo port install imagemagick (for Macports) or fink install imagemagick (for Fink). This won't interfere with the MacTeX installation, so it can't hurt to try. I have used both methods and found convert to work fine. Jens On Feb 5, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Richard Talley wrote: So I found a problem with the 'convert' utility (part of ImageMagick 6.6.9) that MacTex 2011 installs. The installation fails to install the necessary xml files that 'convert' needs to function correctly at the command line. Over at the macosx-tex mailing list, Dick Koch provided a link to the necessary xml files with this comment: We supply convert mainly for tex4html, thinking that users familiar with the Unix version will want to install the full ImageMagick. So the conversion you are using was never tested. So I got 'convert' working at the command line. Unfortunately, this turned out to be a red herring. I still can't typeset LyX's user manual from within LyX. Pdf and eps files (such as mobius.eps) still don't display within LyX ('Error converting to loadable format') and typesetting still fails. I tried exporting the LyX user manual to LaTeX(plain) and typesetting the resulting TeX file in TeXShop. That actually works, except cross references break ('see section ??' in the resulting pdf). But the pdf and eps files that are problematic in LyX typeset in TeXShop. What am I missing? -- Rich On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.comwrote: I had been running MacTex 2009 and Lyx 1.6.8. and using them extensively for technical documentation and homework assignments. I upgraded this morning to MacTex 2011 (using the Tex Live Utility to bring all the packages up to date) and Lyx 2.0.2. I tried to create a pdf of the UserGuide (located in /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/doc/ - opens as read only) Four eps files are generating 'Error converting to loadable format' in the LyX document. The LaTeX error dialog shows: Package pdftex.def Error: File `34_Applications_LyX_app_Contents_Resources_doc_clipart_mobius.pdf} Using draft setting for this image. Try typing return to proceed. If that doesn't work, type X return to quit. - OR - Package pdftex.def Error: File `42_Applications_LyX_app_Contents_Resources_doc_clipart_escher-lsd.pdf}} \hfill{}\subfloat[\label{f... So my system doesn't seem to be converting eps files correctly into pdfs for LyX to use. Any suggestions for troubleshooting? I've saved the complete LaTeX log, but it's huge and I'm not sure what's relevant. -- Rich MacBook Pro/OS X 10.6.8
small beef with LyX on the Mac
I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... el
Re: small beef with LyX on the Mac
On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:43:34 +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... el Hitting the cursor or tab key is to much of a problem/effort? Charlie
Re: small beef with LyX on the Mac
This has to with muscle memory consistency with OS X standards. If I close a document with unsaved changes in TextEdit or Pages, hitting Return saves and hitting Space discards. LyX is inconsistent with this expectation of Mac users. Charlie did write that it was a 'small beef'. ;o) BTW, I just discovered a fairly consistent way to crash LyX 2.02 on my Mac. If I bring up a new document in LyX, type a word, then close the document with Command-W, and finally discard the changes by choosing 'Don't Save', then LyX stops responding to Command-N. If I then use File - New to try to open a new document, LyX usually crashes. Interesting. LyX is still more robust than most of the multi-platform software that I run on my Mac. I just wish I could solve my problem with typesetting the User's Manual. -- Rich On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM, aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote: On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:43:34 +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... el Hitting the cursor or tab key is to much of a problem/effort? Charlie
Re: small beef with LyX on the Mac
Unfortunately Apple have themselves broken the continuity here with Lion. Now when you close a native application like TeXtEdit, the old shortcuts for don't save no longer work (neither space bar nor Apple-D). Instead you have to press Apple-Delete. So in other words, if we assume that Lion and pre-Lion OS X are still in wide use, there is (sadly) no single standard Apple behavior that LyX could be expected to conform to. Jens On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Rich Talley wrote: This has to with muscle memory consistency with OS X standards. If I close a document with unsaved changes in TextEdit or Pages, hitting Return saves and hitting Space discards. LyX is inconsistent with this expectation of Mac users. Charlie did write that it was a 'small beef'. ;o) BTW, I just discovered a fairly consistent way to crash LyX 2.02 on my Mac. If I bring up a new document in LyX, type a word, then close the document with Command-W, and finally discard the changes by choosing 'Don't Save', then LyX stops responding to Command-N. If I then use File - New to try to open a new document, LyX usually crashes. Interesting. LyX is still more robust than most of the multi-platform software that I run on my Mac. I just wish I could solve my problem with typesetting the User's Manual. -- Rich On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM, aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote: On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:43:34 +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... el Hitting the cursor or tab key is to much of a problem/effort? Charlie
Re: errors typesetting UserGuide.lyx
I think this can only be solved if you save the user's guide to an external file, bisect that new file until you localize the error to a reasonably small portion of the file, and then inspect the LaTeX log. Jens On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Rich Talley wrote: Thanks. As convert is now working, I'll put off installing software I probably don't actually need. I am able to convert the problematic files (such as mobius.eps) to pngs at the command line using convert manually. The problem appears to be that my installation of LyX is not using convert. As one of the wiki pages recommend, I ran this command: lyx -dbg graphics A bunch of graphic formats are listed as loadable. Pdf files are not; is this correct? I confirmed that I only have one copy of convert and that it's in my path. I looked at LyX - Preferences - File Handling - Converters - EPS - PNG This shows 'convert $$i $$o', which I believe is correct. I show only two PDF converters, PDF(ps2pdf) to EPS and to Postscript. Should there be more? -- Rich On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote: Assuming convert is really the problem, perhaps you can try a different imagemagick installation. Two options would be Macports, http://www.macports.org/install.php or Fink, http://www.finkproject.org/download/index.php?phpLang=en You only need one of these. Most people seem to choose Macports nowadays, but it really doesn't matter for your purposes. After following the installation instructions for one of these package managers, you can then install imagemagick by typing either sudo port install imagemagick (for Macports) or fink install imagemagick (for Fink). This won't interfere with the MacTeX installation, so it can't hurt to try. I have used both methods and found convert to work fine. Jens On Feb 5, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Richard Talley wrote: So I found a problem with the 'convert' utility (part of ImageMagick 6.6.9) that MacTex 2011 installs. The installation fails to install the necessary xml files that 'convert' needs to function correctly at the command line. Over at the macosx-tex mailing list, Dick Koch provided a link to the necessary xml files with this comment: We supply convert mainly for tex4html, thinking that users familiar with the Unix version will want to install the full ImageMagick. So the conversion you are using was never tested. So I got 'convert' working at the command line. Unfortunately, this turned out to be a red herring. I still can't typeset LyX's user manual from within LyX. Pdf and eps files (such as mobius.eps) still don't display within LyX ('Error converting to loadable format') and typesetting still fails. I tried exporting the LyX user manual to LaTeX(plain) and typesetting the resulting TeX file in TeXShop. That actually works, except cross references break ('see section ??' in the resulting pdf). But the pdf and eps files that are problematic in LyX typeset in TeXShop. What am I missing? -- Rich On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote: I had been running MacTex 2009 and Lyx 1.6.8. and using them extensively for technical documentation and homework assignments. I upgraded this morning to MacTex 2011 (using the Tex Live Utility to bring all the packages up to date) and Lyx 2.0.2. I tried to create a pdf of the UserGuide (located in /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/doc/ - opens as read only) Four eps files are generating 'Error converting to loadable format' in the LyX document. The LaTeX error dialog shows: Package pdftex.def Error: File `34_Applications_LyX_app_Contents_Resources_doc_clipart_mobius.pdf} Using draft setting for this image. Try typing return to proceed. If that doesn't work, type X return to quit. - OR - Package pdftex.def Error: File `42_Applications_LyX_app_Contents_Resources_doc_clipart_escher-lsd.pdf}} \hfill{}\subfloat[\label{f... So my system doesn't seem to be converting eps files correctly into pdfs for LyX to use. Any suggestions for troubleshooting? I've saved the complete LaTeX log, but it's huge and I'm not sure what's relevant. -- Rich MacBook Pro/OS X 10.6.8
Re: small beef with LyX on the Mac
Good points. I'm running Snow Leopard and have been avoiding Lion. I switched to OS X from Windows several years ago, but maybe it's time to start looking at Linux distributions again. All good things come to an end. At least almost all my data is in LyX format, plain text, or easily exported formats. I've been careful about this. -- Rich On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote: Unfortunately Apple have themselves broken the continuity here with Lion. Now when you close a native application like TeXtEdit, the old shortcuts for don't save no longer work (neither space bar nor Apple-D). Instead you have to press Apple-Delete. So in other words, if we assume that Lion and pre-Lion OS X are still in wide use, there is (sadly) no single standard Apple behavior that LyX could be expected to conform to. Jens On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Rich Talley wrote: This has to with muscle memory consistency with OS X standards. If I close a document with unsaved changes in TextEdit or Pages, hitting Return saves and hitting Space discards. LyX is inconsistent with this expectation of Mac users. Charlie did write that it was a 'small beef'. ;o) BTW, I just discovered a fairly consistent way to crash LyX 2.02 on my Mac. If I bring up a new document in LyX, type a word, then close the document with Command-W, and finally discard the changes by choosing 'Don't Save', then LyX stops responding to Command-N. If I then use File - New to try to open a new document, LyX usually crashes. Interesting. LyX is still more robust than most of the multi-platform software that I run on my Mac. I just wish I could solve my problem with typesetting the User's Manual. -- Rich On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM, aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote: On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:43:34 +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... el Hitting the cursor or tab key is to much of a problem/effort? Charlie
Changing the lyxlist (labeling environment) formatting
I am using LyX 2.0.0 under Ubuntu 11.10. I'd like to globally change the format of the header in the labeling environments (aka. lyxlist in the exported TeX source), bsaically bolding the text and increasing the allocated indent. I realise I can do this on a line-by-line basis, but this seems to defeat the purpose of using LyX in the first place. Is there something I can put in the preamble to make the change for the whole document? Cheers, Jason
Re: automatique reference of sub figure
On 2012-02-05, Omar Cheikhrouhou (ISET) wrote: > I use the following preambule > \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand{\ref}[1]{\mbox{\autoref{#1 > to add the word < Figure > when referencing figure. > However, the word figure is not added when referencing sub-figure. For > example it write 3a instead of Figure 3a. > Please, what to add in order to get the word Figure before number of fig I suppose you also load a package providing \autoref in the preamble. Please look up its documentation to see whether/how it cooperates with the "subfig" package. As a fallback solution, add "Figure" by hand for references to subfigures. Günter
Re: alpha-numeric Section Numbering
On 2012-02-04, stefano franchi wrote: > On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Boris Seincherwrote: >> I want to use LyX wor a law paper in german. When I use Part, Chapter, >> Section and so on I get a sctructure like this: >> I., 1, 1.1 ... However I want something like this: A, I, 1, a), aa), (i), >> (ii). >> Is it somehow possible? There are several ways to achieve this: Maybe there is already a special LaTeX package for your document class e.g. at CTAN. > One way to do it is by redefining the corresponding commands: > \thepart, \thechapter, etc. ... > This code may not get you all the way there, though. It only changes > the style of the counters, not the overall styling of the sectioning > commands. For instance, you will still get "Part A" not just "A". > A better solution may be to use the titlesec package (or the memoir > class which includes the titlesec package). Take a look at section 9.2 > of the manual (available on Ctan and probably on your own > installation: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/titlesec/). > Titlesec will allow you complete control over the sectioning commands Another alternative is to use the KOMA-script classes that provide many well documented configuration options including section heading styling. See scrguide.pdf or the English version scrguien.pdf on CTAN or your local installation). > In either case, you'll get your desidered numbering scheme in the pdf > only. Lyx will still show you arabic figures on screen. You would > have to write a module to fix what you see on screen as well (although > a bug made it impossible a few versions back. Things may have > changed). Günter
Re: EOL characters removed when pasting a source code into a program listing section
On 2012-02-03, Marcin Zajączkowski wrote: ... > I just did CTRL-V (normal Edit -> Paste). When after a reply I tried > with paste special "Plain Text" keeps as expected the end of line > characters while "Plain Text, Join Lines" not. > So, generally thanks for your explanation, but don't you think that for > a "Program Listening" section because of its usage normal Edit -> Paste > should keep EOL characters? This makes sense, indeed. Can you file a bug/enhancement report? Günter
Re: automatique reference of sub figure
On 02/05/2012 11:41 PM, Omar Cheikhrouhou (ISET) wrote: Hello, I use the following preambule \AtBeginDocument{\renewcommand{\ref}[1]{\mbox{\autoref{#1 to add the word « Figure » when referencing figure. However, the word figure is not added when referencing sub-figure. For example it write 3a instead of Figure 3a. Please, what to add in order to get the word Figure before number of fig Try with \providecommand{\subfigureautorefname}{\figureautorefname} or even simpler \providecommand{\subfigureautorefname}{Figure}
Re: errors typesetting UserGuide.lyx
Thanks. As convert is now working, I'll put off installing software I probably don't actually need. I am able to convert the problematic files (such as mobius.eps) to pngs at the command line using convert manually. The problem appears to be that my installation of LyX is not using convert. As one of the wiki pages recommend, I ran this command: lyx -dbg graphics A bunch of graphic formats are listed as loadable. Pdf files are not; is this correct? I confirmed that I only have one copy of convert and that it's in my path. I looked at LyX -> Preferences -> File Handling -> Converters -> EPS -> PNG This shows 'convert $$i $$o', which I believe is correct. I show only two PDF converters, PDF(ps2pdf) to EPS and to Postscript. Should there be more? -- Rich On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Jens Nöckelwrote: > Assuming convert is really the problem, perhaps you can try a different > imagemagick installation. > > Two options would be Macports, > http://www.macports.org/install.php > or Fink, > http://www.finkproject.org/download/index.php?phpLang=en > > You only need one of these. Most people seem to choose Macports nowadays, > but it really doesn't matter for your purposes. > After following the installation instructions for one of these package > managers, you can then install imagemagick by typing either > sudo port install imagemagick > (for Macports) > or > fink install imagemagick > (for Fink). > > This won't interfere with the MacTeX installation, so it can't hurt to > try. I have used both methods and found convert to work fine. > > Jens > > On Feb 5, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Richard Talley wrote: > > So I found a problem with the 'convert' utility (part of ImageMagick > 6.6.9) that MacTex 2011 installs. The installation fails to install the > necessary xml files that 'convert' needs to function correctly at the > command line. > > Over at the macosx-tex mailing list, Dick Koch provided a link to the > necessary xml files with this comment: > > "We supply convert mainly for tex4html, thinking that users familiar with > the Unix version > will want to install the full ImageMagick. So the conversion you are using > was never tested." > > So I got 'convert' working at the command line. Unfortunately, this turned > out to be a red herring. I still can't typeset LyX's user manual > from within LyX. Pdf and eps files (such as mobius.eps) still don't > display within LyX ('Error converting to loadable format') and > typesetting still fails. > > I tried exporting the LyX user manual to LaTeX(plain) and typesetting the > resulting TeX file in TeXShop. That actually works, > except cross references break ('see section ??' in the resulting pdf). But > the pdf and eps files that are problematic in LyX typeset > in TeXShop. > > What am I missing? > > -- Rich > > > On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Richard Talley wrote: > >> I had been running MacTex 2009 and Lyx 1.6.8. and using them extensively >> for technical documentation and homework assignments. >> >> I upgraded this morning to MacTex 2011 (using the Tex Live Utility to >> bring all the packages up to date) and Lyx 2.0.2. >> >> I tried to create a pdf of the UserGuide (located in >> /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/doc/ - opens as read only) >> >> Four eps files are generating 'Error converting to loadable format' in >> the LyX document. The LaTeX error dialog shows: >> >> Package pdftex.def Error: File >> `34_Applications_LyX_app_Contents_Resources_doc_clipart_mobius.pdf} >> >> Using draft setting for this image. >> Try typing to proceed. >> If that doesn't work, type X to quit. >> >> >> - OR - >> >> Package pdftex.def Error: File >> `42_Applications_LyX_app_Contents_Resources_doc_clipart_escher-lsd.pdf}} >> \hfill{}\subfloat[\label{f... >> >> >> So my system doesn't seem to be converting eps files correctly into pdfs >> for LyX to use. Any suggestions for troubleshooting? I've saved the >> complete LaTeX log, but it's huge and I'm not sure what's relevant. >> >> -- Rich >> MacBook Pro/OS X 10.6.8 >> >> > >
small beef with LyX on the Mac
I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... el
Re: small beef with LyX on the Mac
On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:43:34 +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... el Hitting the cursor or tab key is to much of a problem/effort? Charlie
Re: small beef with LyX on the Mac
This has to with muscle memory & consistency with OS X standards. If I close a document with unsaved changes in TextEdit or Pages, hitting Return saves and hitting Space discards. LyX is inconsistent with this expectation of Mac users. Charlie did write that it was a 'small beef'. ;o) BTW, I just discovered a fairly consistent way to crash LyX 2.02 on my Mac. If I bring up a new document in LyX, type a word, then close the document with Command-W, and finally discard the changes by choosing 'Don't Save', then LyX stops responding to Command-N. If I then use File -> New to try to open a new document, LyX usually crashes. Interesting. LyX is still more robust than most of the multi-platform software that I run on my Mac. I just wish I could solve my problem with typesetting the User's Manual. -- Rich On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM,wrote: > On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:43:34 +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: > >> I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file >> dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. >> >> What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting >> to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting >> Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... >> >> el >> > > Hitting the cursor or tab key is to much of a problem/effort? > > Charlie >
Re: small beef with LyX on the Mac
Unfortunately Apple have themselves broken the continuity here with Lion. Now when you close a native application like TeXtEdit, the old shortcuts for "don't save" no longer work (neither space bar nor Apple-D). Instead you have to press Apple-Delete. So in other words, if we assume that Lion and pre-Lion OS X are still in wide use, there is (sadly) no single standard Apple behavior that LyX could be expected to conform to. Jens On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Rich Talley wrote: > This has to with muscle memory & consistency with OS X standards. > > If I close a document with unsaved changes in TextEdit or Pages, hitting > Return saves and hitting Space discards. > > LyX is inconsistent with this expectation of Mac users. Charlie did write > that it was a 'small beef'. ;o) > > BTW, I just discovered a fairly consistent way to crash LyX 2.02 on my Mac. > > If I bring up a new document in LyX, type a word, then close the document > with Command-W, and finally discard the changes by choosing 'Don't Save', > then LyX stops responding to Command-N. If I then use File -> New to try to > open a new document, LyX usually crashes. Interesting. > > LyX is still more robust than most of the multi-platform software that I run > on my Mac. I just wish I could solve my problem with typesetting the User's > Manual. > > -- Rich > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM,wrote: > On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:43:34 +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: > I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file > dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. > > What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting > to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting > Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... > > el > > Hitting the cursor or tab key is to much of a problem/effort? > > Charlie >
Re: errors typesetting UserGuide.lyx
I think this can only be solved if you save the user's guide to an external file, bisect that new file until you localize the error to a reasonably small portion of the file, and then inspect the LaTeX log. Jens On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Rich Talley wrote: > Thanks. As convert is now working, I'll put off installing software I > probably don't actually need. I am able to convert the problematic files > (such as mobius.eps) to pngs at the command line using convert manually. The > problem appears to be that my installation of LyX is not using convert. > > As one of the wiki pages recommend, I ran this command: > > lyx -dbg graphics > > A bunch of graphic formats are listed as loadable. Pdf files are not; is this > correct? > > I confirmed that I only have one copy of convert and that it's in my path. > > I looked at LyX -> Preferences -> File Handling -> Converters -> EPS -> PNG > > This shows 'convert $$i $$o', which I believe is correct. > > I show only two PDF converters, PDF(ps2pdf) to EPS and to Postscript. Should > there be more? > > > -- Rich > > > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Jens Nöckelwrote: > Assuming convert is really the problem, perhaps you can try a different > imagemagick installation. > > Two options would be Macports, > http://www.macports.org/install.php > or Fink, > http://www.finkproject.org/download/index.php?phpLang=en > > You only need one of these. Most people seem to choose Macports nowadays, but > it really doesn't matter for your purposes. > After following the installation instructions for one of these package > managers, you can then install imagemagick by typing either > sudo port install imagemagick > (for Macports) > or > fink install imagemagick > (for Fink). > > This won't interfere with the MacTeX installation, so it can't hurt to try. I > have used both methods and found convert to work fine. > > Jens > > On Feb 5, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Richard Talley wrote: > >> So I found a problem with the 'convert' utility (part of ImageMagick 6.6.9) >> that MacTex 2011 installs. The installation fails to install the necessary >> xml files that 'convert' needs to function correctly at the command line. >> >> Over at the macosx-tex mailing list, Dick Koch provided a link to the >> necessary xml files with this comment: >> >> "We supply convert mainly for tex4html, thinking that users familiar with >> the Unix version >> will want to install the full ImageMagick. So the conversion you are using >> was never tested." >> >> So I got 'convert' working at the command line. Unfortunately, this turned >> out to be a red herring. I still can't typeset LyX's user manual >> from within LyX. Pdf and eps files (such as mobius.eps) still don't display >> within LyX ('Error converting to loadable format') and >> typesetting still fails. >> >> I tried exporting the LyX user manual to LaTeX(plain) and typesetting the >> resulting TeX file in TeXShop. That actually works, >> except cross references break ('see section ??' in the resulting pdf). But >> the pdf and eps files that are problematic in LyX typeset >> in TeXShop. >> >> What am I missing? >> >> -- Rich >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Richard Talley wrote: >> I had been running MacTex 2009 and Lyx 1.6.8. and using them extensively for >> technical documentation and homework assignments. >> >> I upgraded this morning to MacTex 2011 (using the Tex Live Utility to bring >> all the packages up to date) and Lyx 2.0.2. >> >> I tried to create a pdf of the UserGuide (located in >> /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/doc/ - opens as read only) >> >> Four eps files are generating 'Error converting to loadable format' in the >> LyX document. The LaTeX error dialog shows: >> >> Package pdftex.def Error: File >> `34_Applications_LyX_app_Contents_Resources_doc_clipart_mobius.pdf} >> >> Using draft setting for this image. >> Try typing to proceed. >> If that doesn't work, type X to quit. >> >> >> - OR - >> >> Package pdftex.def Error: File >> `42_Applications_LyX_app_Contents_Resources_doc_clipart_escher-lsd.pdf}} >> \hfill{}\subfloat[\label{f... >> >> >> So my system doesn't seem to be converting eps files correctly into pdfs for >> LyX to use. Any suggestions for troubleshooting? I've saved the complete >> LaTeX log, but it's huge and I'm not sure what's relevant. >> >> -- Rich >> MacBook Pro/OS X 10.6.8 >> >> > >
Re: small beef with LyX on the Mac
Good points. I'm running Snow Leopard and have been avoiding Lion. I switched to OS X from Windows several years ago, but maybe it's time to start looking at Linux distributions again. All good things come to an end. At least almost all my data is in LyX format, plain text, or easily exported formats. I've been careful about this. -- Rich On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Jens Nöckelwrote: > Unfortunately Apple have themselves broken the continuity here with Lion. > Now when you close a native application like TeXtEdit, the old shortcuts > for "don't save" no longer work (neither space bar nor Apple-D). Instead > you have to press Apple-Delete. > > So in other words, if we assume that Lion and pre-Lion OS X are still in > wide use, there is (sadly) no single standard Apple behavior that LyX could > be expected to conform to. > > Jens > > On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Rich Talley wrote: > > This has to with muscle memory & consistency with OS X standards. > > If I close a document with unsaved changes in TextEdit or Pages, hitting > Return saves and hitting Space discards. > > LyX is inconsistent with this expectation of Mac users. Charlie did write > that it was a 'small beef'. ;o) > > BTW, I just discovered a fairly consistent way to crash LyX 2.02 on my Mac. > > If I bring up a new document in LyX, type a word, then close the document > with Command-W, and finally discard the changes by choosing 'Don't Save', > then LyX stops responding to Command-N. If I then use File -> New to try to > open a new document, LyX usually crashes. Interesting. > > LyX is still more robust than most of the multi-platform software that I > run on my Mac. I just wish I could solve my problem with typesetting the > User's Manual. > > -- Rich > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM, wrote: > >> On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:43:34 +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: >> >>> I have been irritated for quite a while now by the close/save file >>> dialog (Safe Discard Cancel which defaults to Save. >>> >>> What I would like to see is one like the commonly used one, defaulting >>> to Save (by hitting Return) but also offering Discard (by hitting >>> Space), because most of the time I do not use the mouse for this... >>> >>> el >>> >> >> Hitting the cursor or tab key is to much of a problem/effort? >> >> Charlie >> > > >
Changing the lyxlist (labeling environment) formatting
I am using LyX 2.0.0 under Ubuntu 11.10. I'd like to globally change the format of the header in the labeling environments (aka. lyxlist in the exported TeX source), bsaically bolding the text and increasing the allocated indent. I realise I can do this on a line-by-line basis, but this seems to defeat the purpose of using LyX in the first place. Is there something I can put in the preamble to make the change for the whole document? Cheers, Jason