Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Rainer M Krug
On 17/12/12 21:02, stefano franchi wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org mailto:rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 12/17/2012 01:49 PM, Nico Williams wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org mailto:rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Rainer M Krug
On 18/12/12 00:01, Nico Williams wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: I'm not so sure. If someone were to write a converter that mapped LyX's XML onto ODT's, or whatever, then

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 18/12/12 10:14, Rainer M Krug a écrit : Sounds like a great idea. One question: would having an external but faithful XML Lyx file allow XLS-translations to XML-based word-processing formats? That would solve once and for all (hopefully) the problem of the Lyx--Word conversion that still

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Rainer M Krug
On 18/12/12 10:28, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 18/12/12 10:14, Rainer M Krug a écrit : Sounds like a great idea. One question: would having an external but faithful XML Lyx file allow XLS-translations to XML-based word-processing formats? That would solve once and for all (hopefully)

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 18/12/12 10:39, Rainer M Krug a écrit : Don't be lured by the fact that XML presents itself as the solution to all problems. I do not see how you could collaborate with co-authors using word, unless your document is horribly simple. Obviously not lossless or that straight forward - but I

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Rainer M Krug
On 18/12/12 10:57, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 18/12/12 10:39, Rainer M Krug a écrit : Don't be lured by the fact that XML presents itself as the solution to all problems. I do not see how you could collaborate with co-authors using word, unless your document is horribly simple.

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Pavel Sanda
Rainer M Krug wrote: LyX itself. So my question: would this new XML format mean the good bye to the plain text format This is not good bye to the plain text format, most probably it would one of the many conversion routes we provide (similarly as e.g. elyxer fro html), at least that's how I

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread José Matos
On 12/17/2012 03:59 AM, Nico Williams wrote: I've written a Python script for converting .lyx files to XML. There's no DTD or schema, but it's a straightforward mapping of .lyx format to XML. Things like \being_layout ... \end_layout become layout ../layout and so on. This is much more

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:14 PM, José Matos jama...@lyx.org wrote: The harder part is: what about the math - mathml conversion? Perhaps: LaTeXML allows to convert LaTeX to MathML. http://www.mathweb.org/wiki/LaTeXML or: You can also displayed MathML as LaTeX source code using XSLT style

Re: Two Column Article - Text rows vertically misaligned

2012-12-18 Thread John Kane
I don't seem to see a problem with Lyx 2.0.4 and the article class with setting Document Settings Text Layout two column document selected. How are you defining the two column format? From: TB L wegwei...@gmail.com To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent:

Re: Two Column Article - Text rows vertically misaligned

2012-12-18 Thread TB L
Hi John, I used the checkbox option in the Document -- Setting dialog and and the KOMA-script article class. This is my preamble: \usepackage{natbib} \usepackage{geometry} \geometry{a4paper,left=25mm,right=25mm,top=20mm,bottom=20mm} % wenn pdflatex benutzt wird: \usepackage{ifpdf} \ifpdf

Re: New APA6 Layout

2012-12-18 Thread John Kane
Well I've only used it on a half-page file to see how it looks but I'm certainly very pleased.  It's great work Now I will have to concientiouly experiment with it so that I can legitimately recommend it and sound knowledgeable about it when answering simple questions.  Hard questions will

Re: Two Column Article - Text rows vertically misaligned

2012-12-18 Thread John Kane
I had  to load  \usepackage{hyperref}to get \usepackage[figure*]{hypcap} to run. With plain text I don't see any  problem and it seems okay if I insert a graphic (simple png sized to 8cm X 8 cm) but a Figure Float of the same size  reproduces the problem.  I'm a real beginner with LyX and

Re: Two Column Article - Text rows vertically misaligned

2012-12-18 Thread Wolfgang Keller
just tried to typeset an article with two-column layout and am now faced with the problem that the text rows on the right hand are not vertically aligned to the one on the left hand (probably because of section titles?). Is there any option to force Lyx / Latex to ensure that the text rows

Re: Using units package with custom options

2012-12-18 Thread Martin Re
De: Jacob Bishop bishop.ja...@gmail.com May I ask why you are using \text ? To my knowledge, the \unit and \unitfrac commands automatically ensure that the text is typeset upright. I seem to get the correct output by using \unitfrac without using \text. Then

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:22:17 +0100 Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/12/12 00:01, Nico Williams wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: I'm not so sure. If

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:52:44 +0100 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: In any case the proper place where this should be discussed is developer list, not users list, let's see what will happen there :) Pavel I disagree. At least some of us are now discussing the possibility of formatting

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:22:17 +0100 Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: This all sounds very exciting and extremely useful for import / export / collaboration, but there is one aspect which I would be missing in

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Rainer M Krug
On 17/12/12 21:02, stefano franchi wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org mailto:rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 12/17/2012 01:49 PM, Nico Williams wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org mailto:rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Rainer M Krug
On 18/12/12 00:01, Nico Williams wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: I'm not so sure. If someone were to write a converter that mapped LyX's XML onto ODT's, or whatever, then

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 18/12/12 10:14, Rainer M Krug a écrit : Sounds like a great idea. One question: would having an external but faithful XML Lyx file allow XLS-translations to XML-based word-processing formats? That would solve once and for all (hopefully) the problem of the Lyx--Word conversion that still

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Rainer M Krug
On 18/12/12 10:28, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 18/12/12 10:14, Rainer M Krug a écrit : Sounds like a great idea. One question: would having an external but faithful XML Lyx file allow XLS-translations to XML-based word-processing formats? That would solve once and for all (hopefully)

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 18/12/12 10:39, Rainer M Krug a écrit : Don't be lured by the fact that XML presents itself as the solution to all problems. I do not see how you could collaborate with co-authors using word, unless your document is horribly simple. Obviously not lossless or that straight forward - but I

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Rainer M Krug
On 18/12/12 10:57, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 18/12/12 10:39, Rainer M Krug a écrit : Don't be lured by the fact that XML presents itself as the solution to all problems. I do not see how you could collaborate with co-authors using word, unless your document is horribly simple.

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Pavel Sanda
Rainer M Krug wrote: LyX itself. So my question: would this new XML format mean the good bye to the plain text format This is not good bye to the plain text format, most probably it would one of the many conversion routes we provide (similarly as e.g. elyxer fro html), at least that's how I

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread José Matos
On 12/17/2012 03:59 AM, Nico Williams wrote: I've written a Python script for converting .lyx files to XML. There's no DTD or schema, but it's a straightforward mapping of .lyx format to XML. Things like \being_layout ... \end_layout become layout ../layout and so on. This is much more

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:14 PM, José Matos jama...@lyx.org wrote: The harder part is: what about the math - mathml conversion? Perhaps: LaTeXML allows to convert LaTeX to MathML. http://www.mathweb.org/wiki/LaTeXML or: You can also displayed MathML as LaTeX source code using XSLT style

Re: Two Column Article - Text rows vertically misaligned

2012-12-18 Thread John Kane
I don't seem to see a problem with Lyx 2.0.4 and the article class with setting Document Settings Text Layout two column document selected. How are you defining the two column format? From: TB L wegwei...@gmail.com To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent:

Re: Two Column Article - Text rows vertically misaligned

2012-12-18 Thread TB L
Hi John, I used the checkbox option in the Document -- Setting dialog and and the KOMA-script article class. This is my preamble: \usepackage{natbib} \usepackage{geometry} \geometry{a4paper,left=25mm,right=25mm,top=20mm,bottom=20mm} % wenn pdflatex benutzt wird: \usepackage{ifpdf} \ifpdf

Re: New APA6 Layout

2012-12-18 Thread John Kane
Well I've only used it on a half-page file to see how it looks but I'm certainly very pleased.  It's great work Now I will have to concientiouly experiment with it so that I can legitimately recommend it and sound knowledgeable about it when answering simple questions.  Hard questions will

Re: Two Column Article - Text rows vertically misaligned

2012-12-18 Thread John Kane
I had  to load  \usepackage{hyperref}to get \usepackage[figure*]{hypcap} to run. With plain text I don't see any  problem and it seems okay if I insert a graphic (simple png sized to 8cm X 8 cm) but a Figure Float of the same size  reproduces the problem.  I'm a real beginner with LyX and

Re: Two Column Article - Text rows vertically misaligned

2012-12-18 Thread Wolfgang Keller
just tried to typeset an article with two-column layout and am now faced with the problem that the text rows on the right hand are not vertically aligned to the one on the left hand (probably because of section titles?). Is there any option to force Lyx / Latex to ensure that the text rows

Re: Using units package with custom options

2012-12-18 Thread Martin Re
De: Jacob Bishop bishop.ja...@gmail.com May I ask why you are using \text ? To my knowledge, the \unit and \unitfrac commands automatically ensure that the text is typeset upright. I seem to get the correct output by using \unitfrac without using \text. Then

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:22:17 +0100 Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/12/12 00:01, Nico Williams wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: I'm not so sure. If

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:52:44 +0100 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: In any case the proper place where this should be discussed is developer list, not users list, let's see what will happen there :) Pavel I disagree. At least some of us are now discussing the possibility of formatting

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:22:17 +0100 Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: This all sounds very exciting and extremely useful for import / export / collaboration, but there is one aspect which I would be missing in

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Rainer M Krug
On 17/12/12 21:02, stefano franchi wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Richard Heck > wrote: > > On 12/17/2012 01:49 PM, Nico Williams wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Richard Heck >

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Rainer M Krug
On 18/12/12 00:01, Nico Williams wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Heck wrote: I'm not so sure. If someone were to write a converter that mapped LyX's XML onto

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 18/12/12 10:14, Rainer M Krug a écrit : Sounds like a great idea. One question: would having an external but faithful XML Lyx file allow XLS-translations to XML-based word-processing formats? That would solve once and for all (hopefully) the problem of the Lyx-->Word conversion that still

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Rainer M Krug
On 18/12/12 10:28, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 18/12/12 10:14, Rainer M Krug a écrit : >>> Sounds like a great idea. One question: would having an external but >>> faithful XML Lyx file >>> allow XLS-translations to XML-based word-processing formats? That would >>> solve once and for >>>

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 18/12/12 10:39, Rainer M Krug a écrit : Don't be lured by the fact that XML presents itself as the solution to all problems. I do not see how you could collaborate with co-authors using word, unless your document is horribly simple. Obviously not lossless or that straight forward - but I

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Rainer M Krug
On 18/12/12 10:57, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 18/12/12 10:39, Rainer M Krug a écrit : >>> Don't be lured by the fact that XML presents itself as the solution to all >>> problems. I do >>> not see how you could collaborate with co-authors using word, unless your >>> document is >>> horribly

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Pavel Sanda
Rainer M Krug wrote: > LyX itself. So my question: would this new XML format mean the "good bye" to > the plain text format This is not "good bye" to the plain text format, most probably it would one of the many conversion routes we provide (similarly as e.g. elyxer fro html), at least that's

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread José Matos
On 12/17/2012 03:59 AM, Nico Williams wrote: > I've written a Python script for converting .lyx files to XML. > There's no DTD or schema, but it's a straightforward mapping of .lyx > format to XML. Things like \being_layout ... \end_layout become > ... and so on. This is much more faithful a >

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 6:14 PM, José Matos wrote: > The harder part is: what about the math -> mathml conversion? > > Perhaps: "LaTeXML allows to convert LaTeX to MathML. " http://www.mathweb.org/wiki/LaTeXML or: "You can also displayed MathML as LaTeX source code using XSLT

Re: Two Column Article - Text rows vertically misaligned

2012-12-18 Thread John Kane
I don't seem to see a problem with Lyx 2.0.4 and the article class with setting Document >Settings > Text Layout > two column document selected. How are you defining the two column format? From: TB L To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent:

Re: Two Column Article - Text rows vertically misaligned

2012-12-18 Thread TB L
Hi John, I used the checkbox option in the Document --> Setting dialog and and the KOMA-script article class. This is my preamble: \usepackage{natbib} > \usepackage{geometry} > \geometry{a4paper,left=25mm,right=25mm,top=20mm,bottom=20mm} > > % wenn pdflatex benutzt wird: > \usepackage{ifpdf} >

Re: New APA6 Layout

2012-12-18 Thread John Kane
Well I've only used it on a half-page file to see how it looks but I'm certainly very pleased.  It's great work Now I will have to concientiouly experiment with it so that I can legitimately recommend it and sound knowledgeable about it when answering simple questions.  Hard questions will

Re: Two Column Article - Text rows vertically misaligned

2012-12-18 Thread John Kane
I had  to load  \usepackage{hyperref}to get \usepackage[figure*]{hypcap} to run. With plain text I don't see any  problem and it seems okay if I insert a graphic (simple png sized to 8cm X 8 cm) but a Figure Float of the same size  reproduces the problem.  I'm a real beginner with LyX and

Re: Two Column Article - Text rows vertically misaligned

2012-12-18 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> just tried to typeset an article with two-column layout and am now > faced with the problem that the text rows on the right hand are not > vertically aligned to the one on the left hand (probably because of > section titles?). > > Is there any option to force Lyx / Latex to ensure that the text

Re: Using units package with custom options

2012-12-18 Thread Martin Re
De: Jacob Bishop May I ask why you are using \text ? To my knowledge, the \unit and \unitfrac commands automatically ensure that the text is typeset upright. I seem to get the correct output by using \unitfrac without using \text. Then

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:22:17 +0100 Rainer M Krug wrote: > On 18/12/12 00:01, Nico Williams wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Alex Vergara Gil > > wrote: > >> > >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Richard Heck > >>> wrote: >

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:52:44 +0100 Pavel Sanda wrote: > In any case the proper place where this should be discussed is > developer list, not users list, let's see what will happen there :) > > Pavel I disagree. At least some of us are now discussing the possibility of

Re: Would a native LyX XML schema be accepted?

2012-12-18 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:22:17 +0100 > Rainer M Krug wrote: >> This all sounds very exciting and extremely useful for import / >> export / collaboration, but there is one aspect which I would be >>