date:20140201

Re: Request for Feature on Mac

2014-02-01 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse

I think this is correct, and a good idea.

el


On 2014-02-01, 05:30 , Jerry wrote:
 
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 3:00 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse nos...@lisse.na
 wrote:
 
 Where would I request the following feature:

 Many Mac programs offer you the choice to Save, Don't
 Save/Discard, Cancel in the way that is shown in the enclosed
 alpha.jpg, ie if you use the Return/Enter key it'll save, if you
 use the Space key it'll Not Save (Quit) and you have to use the
 mouse to click Cancel.

 In Lyx I must use the mouse if I want to discard, because it
 doesn't recognize the Space and it defaults to Save.

 Since I work with the keyboard mostly it is a nuisance, hence
 this request.

 el alpha.jpglyx.jpg
 
 If someone is going to change this, please also change Discard
 to Don't Save which is standard on OS X.
 
 Jerry

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

2014-02-01 Thread Steve Litt

On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:25:58 +1100
Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an
 ePub exporter for LyX would make it a killer application. 
 
 Thanks for your comments, Steve. Have you looked at Pandoc?
 
 Cheers,
 Alan

Hi Alan,

I hadn't known about Pandoc. Thanks for the heads-up. I looked up Pandoc
here:

http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/

For the following ascii art, please switch to monospace font...

   .___.   .__.
LyXformat-|LyX|-LaTeXformat-|Pandoc|-ePubFormat
   `   

The preceding looked simple enough, so I downloaded and installed
Pandoc, and tried it on one of my simpler books. It indeed produced an
ePub, and in certain respects a good one. But not nearly good enough to
sell. No table of contents. No cover. No images: all images referred to
only by their Alt text. All cross reference labels exposed as text with
arbitrary subscript formatting in places. The good news is it managed
to keep footnotes and the like, but that's not good enough. I spoze
theoretically I could have used other options on my lyx -export
command, or on my pandoc command, so these things wouldn't happen, or
perhaps I could have made restrictions on the authoring of my book in
LyX, but these things would need to be examined later.

Another way to use Pandoc might be this:

   .___.   .__.
LyXformat-|LyX|-LaTeXformat-|Pandoc|-xhtml-.
   `   |
 .-'
 |
 |  ._. ._.
 `-|xhtml Tweaker|-xhtml-|My xhtml2epub|-ePub
``` ```

The preceding would depend on:

A) Pandoc retaining enough info, including semantic styles, to make all
   book elements
B) Pandoc producing xhtml sane enough that the tweaker is something
   that can actually be written.

So I tried using Pandoc to convert my LaTeX book to (X)html. The result
had no head (and this might be an advantage), it had all sorts of
garbage characters (perhaps this could be fixed in the head I would
insert), but, the kiss of death is this: It took all my semantic styles
(environments and character styles), kinda-sorta converted them to
presentation, and discarded the semantic styles, so that in my head
I can't specify the link between semantic styles and presentation.
Once those semantic styles are gone, no matter how clever a programmer
I am, I don't have the necessary input info to govern the look of my
eBook. This is a showstopper that cannot be recovered from. 

So unless somebody knows of a way to prevent Pandoc from pulling an
MSWord move and prematurely converting semantic to presentational, my
opinion is that Pandoc is worthless for this task.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

2014-02-01 Thread Alan L Tyree

Well, that's a bit disappointing. Thanks for the full report. I've only
used Pandoc for simple conversions, so haven't looked deeply at the
configuration options that might help with the problems that you
identify below.

One last approach might be interesting to try: What about LyX -
(X)html, then process through Pandoc. And instead of using the LyX
exporters, try tex4ht to make the html file. And process the html file
through tidy before using Pandoc.

I haven't tried this, so please don't waste your time on it if
inconvenient. Pandoc seems at its strongest when starting with a
Markdown file.

Cheers,
Alan


Steve Litt writes:

 On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:25:58 +1100
 Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an
 ePub exporter for LyX would make it a killer application. 
 
 Thanks for your comments, Steve. Have you looked at Pandoc?
 
 Cheers,
 Alan

 Hi Alan,

 I hadn't known about Pandoc. Thanks for the heads-up. I looked up Pandoc
 here:

 http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/

 For the following ascii art, please switch to monospace font...

.___.   .__.
 LyXformat-|LyX|-LaTeXformat-|Pandoc|-ePubFormat
`   

 The preceding looked simple enough, so I downloaded and installed
 Pandoc, and tried it on one of my simpler books. It indeed produced an
 ePub, and in certain respects a good one. But not nearly good enough to
 sell. No table of contents. No cover. No images: all images referred to
 only by their Alt text. All cross reference labels exposed as text with
 arbitrary subscript formatting in places. The good news is it managed
 to keep footnotes and the like, but that's not good enough. I spoze
 theoretically I could have used other options on my lyx -export
 command, or on my pandoc command, so these things wouldn't happen, or
 perhaps I could have made restrictions on the authoring of my book in
 LyX, but these things would need to be examined later.

 Another way to use Pandoc might be this:

.___.   .__.
 LyXformat-|LyX|-LaTeXformat-|Pandoc|-xhtml-.
`   |
  .-'
  |
  |  ._. ._.
  `-|xhtml Tweaker|-xhtml-|My xhtml2epub|-ePub
 ``` ```

 The preceding would depend on:

 A) Pandoc retaining enough info, including semantic styles, to make all
book elements
 B) Pandoc producing xhtml sane enough that the tweaker is something
that can actually be written.

 So I tried using Pandoc to convert my LaTeX book to (X)html. The result
 had no head (and this might be an advantage), it had all sorts of
 garbage characters (perhaps this could be fixed in the head I would
 insert), but, the kiss of death is this: It took all my semantic styles
 (environments and character styles), kinda-sorta converted them to
 presentation, and discarded the semantic styles, so that in my head
 I can't specify the link between semantic styles and presentation.
 Once those semantic styles are gone, no matter how clever a programmer
 I am, I don't have the necessary input info to govern the look of my
 eBook. This is a showstopper that cannot be recovered from. 

 So unless somebody knows of a way to prevent Pandoc from pulling an
 MSWord move and prematurely converting semantic to presentational, my
 opinion is that Pandoc is worthless for this task.

 Thanks,

 SteveT

 Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
 Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


-- 
Alan L Tyree   http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan
Tel:  04 2748 6206 sip:172...@iptel.org

[ANNOUNNCE] LyX 2.0.7.1 Released

2014-02-01 Thread Richard Heck



Public release of LyX version 2.0.7.1
=

We are pleased to announce the release of LyX 2.0.7.1. This is a bugfix
release that affects Mac OSX only. Users of other operating systems do
*not* need to update to this version, and no binaries will be provided
for other operating systems.

There were some issues with the menus in LyX 2.0.7 on OSX. Specifically,
dynamic menu items were lost, and there was a problem restoring the
menus from full-screen operation. Both issues are fixed in 2.0.7.1.

Other bugs fixed since LyX 2.0.6 are detailed below.

The most important of these was #8854, which could lead to file corruption
in certain cases and, more often, would lead to errors in generated files
(e.g., PDFs). We encourage all LyX users to upgrade from 2.0.6.

LyX is a document processor that encourages an approach to writing based
on the structure of your documents and not simply their appearance. It is
released under a Free and Open Source Software license.

You can download LyX 2.0.7.1 from http://www.lyx.org/Download/.

If you think you found a bug in LyX 2.0.7.1, either e-mail the LyX
developers' mailing list (lyx-devel at lists.lyx.org), or open a bug
report at http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome.

If you have trouble using LyX or have a question, consult the
documentation that comes with LyX and the LyX wiki, which lives at
http://wiki.lyx.org/. If you can't find the answer there, e-mail the LyX
users' list (lyx-users at lists.lyx.org).

We hope you enjoy using LyX 2.0.7.1.

The LyX team.
http://www.lyx.org


What's new in LyX 2.0.7.1
=

** Updates:
***

* DOCUMENTATION AND LOCALIZATION

- Updated Arabic, French, Interlingua, Japanese, Nynorsk, Swedish and
  Ukrainian user interface localizations.

- Revised French Intro and User Guide.



** Bug fixes:
*

* DOCUMENT INPUT/OUTPUT

- Fix garbage in document export (and maybe other places) by making encoding
  conversions thread-safe (bug 8854).

- Fix output of ulem commands (underline etc.) which was broken as of
  LyX 2.0.6 (bug 8733).

- Fix problem with unbalanced braces in XeTeX output (bug 8765).

- Fix problems with unbalanced braces with a secondary CJK language
  (bug 8215).

- Fix state of certain language packages (polyglossia, japanese) in
  child documents (bug 8770).

- Fix compilation of documents containing chemical equations and math
  integrals (bug 8731).

- Fix compilation with nested (sub) custom floats.

- Fix import of CSV-files.

- Added h5 and h6 as HTML tags for Paragraph and Subparagraph.

- Include alt tag when exporting math as images (bug 8746).


* USER INTERFACE

- Fix crash when saving document with module that is not present (bug
  8523).

- Fix crash when changing alignment of several cells in tabular (bug 8859).

- Disable invalid actions in empty outliner that could trigger a crash
  (bug 8885).

- Fix warning when setting layout box when Plain Layout is used (bug 8727).

- Fix bug where searching for next change may leave an empty paragraph
  where cursor was (bug 3199).

- Fix activation of branches from command line (bug 8627).

- Fix display of appendix counters in some classes (bug 8666).

- Fix toggling of misc font options (bug 8764).

- Handle undo correctly when a branch is (de)activated.

- Update a bibliography entry's label when it is emptied.

- Insets in a bibliography entry are shown as text in the citation dialog.

- Correctly detect python scripts required by the preview mechanism.

- Fix display of file names with ampersands in the tab header (bug 8757).

- The koma-script book class numbers equations by chapter.

- Fix shortcut conflict in the citation dialog (bug 8878).

- Fix wrong display of style Description in article (paper) class
  (bug 8869).

- Fix the missing menu entry for Insert Branch branch name.


- Fix the missing dynamic menus in general and restore correctly from 
fullscreen.


* DOCUMENTATION AND LOCALIZATION

- Make the aa.lyx template file and the aa_sample.lyx example file 
compilable.


- Make the AEA.lyx template file compilable.

- Make the landslide example file compilable.

- Fix problem that the Chinese Tutorial could not be viewed as PDF on
  some systems.


* LYXHTML

- Fix problem with size of superscripts and such inside footnotes (bug 
8610).


- Add missing space before the edition in the bibliography (part of bug 
8488).


- Fix random character inserted as year modifier in author-year citations.


* BUILD/INSTALLATION

- Add support for automake 1.13.

- Fix compilation with clang LLVM compiler.

- Fix Qt tools search when a Qt directory has been specified.

Re: Feature request

2014-02-01 Thread Scott Kostyshak

Thanks Jim. I just responded to your feature request. Let's continue
the conversation on the trac ticket.

Scott

On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Jim Rockford jim.rockfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for your attention Scott.  I just submitted the enhancement request
 you suggested.

 Best,
 Jim


 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 Do you think something like the insert table icon would work well for
 matrices? If you haven't tried it yet, click on the Insert table
 icon in the top toolbar. If matrices worked in this way, would you
 consider that better or worse than how MathType does it?

 Can you open an enhancement request on trac for this?
 http://www.lyx.org/trac
 Also on the trac ticket can you post a screenshot of what MathType
 does? I'm wondering what the user interface is like.

 Best,

 Scott

 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Jim Rockford jim.rockfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  MathType has the nice feature that when you click to insert a matrix,
  one
  has the choice of immediately inserting a typical low-dimensional matrix
  (i.e. 2x2, 3x3, 3x1, etc), in addition to the option of setting the row
  and
  column numbers manually.  As far as I can tell, in Lyx you must always
  specify the dimension explicitly.  I find this a bit of a nuisance and
  thus
  make the feature request.
 
  Thanks to the Lyx team for their great work and their consideration of
  user
  feature requests.
 
  Jim

Re: Request for Feature on Mac

2014-02-01 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse

I think this is correct, and a good idea.

el


On 2014-02-01, 05:30 , Jerry wrote:
 
 On Jan 31, 2014, at 3:00 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse nos...@lisse.na
 wrote:
 
 Where would I request the following feature:

 Many Mac programs offer you the choice to Save, Don't
 Save/Discard, Cancel in the way that is shown in the enclosed
 alpha.jpg, ie if you use the Return/Enter key it'll save, if you
 use the Space key it'll Not Save (Quit) and you have to use the
 mouse to click Cancel.

 In Lyx I must use the mouse if I want to discard, because it
 doesn't recognize the Space and it defaults to Save.

 Since I work with the keyboard mostly it is a nuisance, hence
 this request.

 el alpha.jpglyx.jpg
 
 If someone is going to change this, please also change Discard
 to Don't Save which is standard on OS X.
 
 Jerry

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

2014-02-01 Thread Steve Litt

On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:25:58 +1100
Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an
 ePub exporter for LyX would make it a killer application. 
 
 Thanks for your comments, Steve. Have you looked at Pandoc?
 
 Cheers,
 Alan

Hi Alan,

I hadn't known about Pandoc. Thanks for the heads-up. I looked up Pandoc
here:

http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/

For the following ascii art, please switch to monospace font...

   .___.   .__.
LyXformat-|LyX|-LaTeXformat-|Pandoc|-ePubFormat
   `   

The preceding looked simple enough, so I downloaded and installed
Pandoc, and tried it on one of my simpler books. It indeed produced an
ePub, and in certain respects a good one. But not nearly good enough to
sell. No table of contents. No cover. No images: all images referred to
only by their Alt text. All cross reference labels exposed as text with
arbitrary subscript formatting in places. The good news is it managed
to keep footnotes and the like, but that's not good enough. I spoze
theoretically I could have used other options on my lyx -export
command, or on my pandoc command, so these things wouldn't happen, or
perhaps I could have made restrictions on the authoring of my book in
LyX, but these things would need to be examined later.

Another way to use Pandoc might be this:

   .___.   .__.
LyXformat-|LyX|-LaTeXformat-|Pandoc|-xhtml-.
   `   |
 .-'
 |
 |  ._. ._.
 `-|xhtml Tweaker|-xhtml-|My xhtml2epub|-ePub
``` ```

The preceding would depend on:

A) Pandoc retaining enough info, including semantic styles, to make all
   book elements
B) Pandoc producing xhtml sane enough that the tweaker is something
   that can actually be written.

So I tried using Pandoc to convert my LaTeX book to (X)html. The result
had no head (and this might be an advantage), it had all sorts of
garbage characters (perhaps this could be fixed in the head I would
insert), but, the kiss of death is this: It took all my semantic styles
(environments and character styles), kinda-sorta converted them to
presentation, and discarded the semantic styles, so that in my head
I can't specify the link between semantic styles and presentation.
Once those semantic styles are gone, no matter how clever a programmer
I am, I don't have the necessary input info to govern the look of my
eBook. This is a showstopper that cannot be recovered from. 

So unless somebody knows of a way to prevent Pandoc from pulling an
MSWord move and prematurely converting semantic to presentational, my
opinion is that Pandoc is worthless for this task.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

2014-02-01 Thread Alan L Tyree

Well, that's a bit disappointing. Thanks for the full report. I've only
used Pandoc for simple conversions, so haven't looked deeply at the
configuration options that might help with the problems that you
identify below.

One last approach might be interesting to try: What about LyX -
(X)html, then process through Pandoc. And instead of using the LyX
exporters, try tex4ht to make the html file. And process the html file
through tidy before using Pandoc.

I haven't tried this, so please don't waste your time on it if
inconvenient. Pandoc seems at its strongest when starting with a
Markdown file.

Cheers,
Alan


Steve Litt writes:

 On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:25:58 +1100
 Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an
 ePub exporter for LyX would make it a killer application. 
 
 Thanks for your comments, Steve. Have you looked at Pandoc?
 
 Cheers,
 Alan

 Hi Alan,

 I hadn't known about Pandoc. Thanks for the heads-up. I looked up Pandoc
 here:

 http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/

 For the following ascii art, please switch to monospace font...

.___.   .__.
 LyXformat-|LyX|-LaTeXformat-|Pandoc|-ePubFormat
`   

 The preceding looked simple enough, so I downloaded and installed
 Pandoc, and tried it on one of my simpler books. It indeed produced an
 ePub, and in certain respects a good one. But not nearly good enough to
 sell. No table of contents. No cover. No images: all images referred to
 only by their Alt text. All cross reference labels exposed as text with
 arbitrary subscript formatting in places. The good news is it managed
 to keep footnotes and the like, but that's not good enough. I spoze
 theoretically I could have used other options on my lyx -export
 command, or on my pandoc command, so these things wouldn't happen, or
 perhaps I could have made restrictions on the authoring of my book in
 LyX, but these things would need to be examined later.

 Another way to use Pandoc might be this:

.___.   .__.
 LyXformat-|LyX|-LaTeXformat-|Pandoc|-xhtml-.
`   |
  .-'
  |
  |  ._. ._.
  `-|xhtml Tweaker|-xhtml-|My xhtml2epub|-ePub
 ``` ```

 The preceding would depend on:

 A) Pandoc retaining enough info, including semantic styles, to make all
book elements
 B) Pandoc producing xhtml sane enough that the tweaker is something
that can actually be written.

 So I tried using Pandoc to convert my LaTeX book to (X)html. The result
 had no head (and this might be an advantage), it had all sorts of
 garbage characters (perhaps this could be fixed in the head I would
 insert), but, the kiss of death is this: It took all my semantic styles
 (environments and character styles), kinda-sorta converted them to
 presentation, and discarded the semantic styles, so that in my head
 I can't specify the link between semantic styles and presentation.
 Once those semantic styles are gone, no matter how clever a programmer
 I am, I don't have the necessary input info to govern the look of my
 eBook. This is a showstopper that cannot be recovered from. 

 So unless somebody knows of a way to prevent Pandoc from pulling an
 MSWord move and prematurely converting semantic to presentational, my
 opinion is that Pandoc is worthless for this task.

 Thanks,

 SteveT

 Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
 Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


-- 
Alan L Tyree   http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan
Tel:  04 2748 6206 sip:172...@iptel.org

[ANNOUNNCE] LyX 2.0.7.1 Released

2014-02-01 Thread Richard Heck



Public release of LyX version 2.0.7.1
=

We are pleased to announce the release of LyX 2.0.7.1. This is a bugfix
release that affects Mac OSX only. Users of other operating systems do
*not* need to update to this version, and no binaries will be provided
for other operating systems.

There were some issues with the menus in LyX 2.0.7 on OSX. Specifically,
dynamic menu items were lost, and there was a problem restoring the
menus from full-screen operation. Both issues are fixed in 2.0.7.1.

Other bugs fixed since LyX 2.0.6 are detailed below.

The most important of these was #8854, which could lead to file corruption
in certain cases and, more often, would lead to errors in generated files
(e.g., PDFs). We encourage all LyX users to upgrade from 2.0.6.

LyX is a document processor that encourages an approach to writing based
on the structure of your documents and not simply their appearance. It is
released under a Free and Open Source Software license.

You can download LyX 2.0.7.1 from http://www.lyx.org/Download/.

If you think you found a bug in LyX 2.0.7.1, either e-mail the LyX
developers' mailing list (lyx-devel at lists.lyx.org), or open a bug
report at http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome.

If you have trouble using LyX or have a question, consult the
documentation that comes with LyX and the LyX wiki, which lives at
http://wiki.lyx.org/. If you can't find the answer there, e-mail the LyX
users' list (lyx-users at lists.lyx.org).

We hope you enjoy using LyX 2.0.7.1.

The LyX team.
http://www.lyx.org


What's new in LyX 2.0.7.1
=

** Updates:
***

* DOCUMENTATION AND LOCALIZATION

- Updated Arabic, French, Interlingua, Japanese, Nynorsk, Swedish and
  Ukrainian user interface localizations.

- Revised French Intro and User Guide.



** Bug fixes:
*

* DOCUMENT INPUT/OUTPUT

- Fix garbage in document export (and maybe other places) by making encoding
  conversions thread-safe (bug 8854).

- Fix output of ulem commands (underline etc.) which was broken as of
  LyX 2.0.6 (bug 8733).

- Fix problem with unbalanced braces in XeTeX output (bug 8765).

- Fix problems with unbalanced braces with a secondary CJK language
  (bug 8215).

- Fix state of certain language packages (polyglossia, japanese) in
  child documents (bug 8770).

- Fix compilation of documents containing chemical equations and math
  integrals (bug 8731).

- Fix compilation with nested (sub) custom floats.

- Fix import of CSV-files.

- Added h5 and h6 as HTML tags for Paragraph and Subparagraph.

- Include alt tag when exporting math as images (bug 8746).


* USER INTERFACE

- Fix crash when saving document with module that is not present (bug
  8523).

- Fix crash when changing alignment of several cells in tabular (bug 8859).

- Disable invalid actions in empty outliner that could trigger a crash
  (bug 8885).

- Fix warning when setting layout box when Plain Layout is used (bug 8727).

- Fix bug where searching for next change may leave an empty paragraph
  where cursor was (bug 3199).

- Fix activation of branches from command line (bug 8627).

- Fix display of appendix counters in some classes (bug 8666).

- Fix toggling of misc font options (bug 8764).

- Handle undo correctly when a branch is (de)activated.

- Update a bibliography entry's label when it is emptied.

- Insets in a bibliography entry are shown as text in the citation dialog.

- Correctly detect python scripts required by the preview mechanism.

- Fix display of file names with ampersands in the tab header (bug 8757).

- The koma-script book class numbers equations by chapter.

- Fix shortcut conflict in the citation dialog (bug 8878).

- Fix wrong display of style Description in article (paper) class
  (bug 8869).

- Fix the missing menu entry for Insert Branch branch name.


- Fix the missing dynamic menus in general and restore correctly from 
fullscreen.


* DOCUMENTATION AND LOCALIZATION

- Make the aa.lyx template file and the aa_sample.lyx example file 
compilable.


- Make the AEA.lyx template file compilable.

- Make the landslide example file compilable.

- Fix problem that the Chinese Tutorial could not be viewed as PDF on
  some systems.


* LYXHTML

- Fix problem with size of superscripts and such inside footnotes (bug 
8610).


- Add missing space before the edition in the bibliography (part of bug 
8488).


- Fix random character inserted as year modifier in author-year citations.


* BUILD/INSTALLATION

- Add support for automake 1.13.

- Fix compilation with clang LLVM compiler.

- Fix Qt tools search when a Qt directory has been specified.

Re: Feature request

2014-02-01 Thread Scott Kostyshak

Thanks Jim. I just responded to your feature request. Let's continue
the conversation on the trac ticket.

Scott

On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Jim Rockford jim.rockfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for your attention Scott.  I just submitted the enhancement request
 you suggested.

 Best,
 Jim


 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 Do you think something like the insert table icon would work well for
 matrices? If you haven't tried it yet, click on the Insert table
 icon in the top toolbar. If matrices worked in this way, would you
 consider that better or worse than how MathType does it?

 Can you open an enhancement request on trac for this?
 http://www.lyx.org/trac
 Also on the trac ticket can you post a screenshot of what MathType
 does? I'm wondering what the user interface is like.

 Best,

 Scott

 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Jim Rockford jim.rockfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  MathType has the nice feature that when you click to insert a matrix,
  one
  has the choice of immediately inserting a typical low-dimensional matrix
  (i.e. 2x2, 3x3, 3x1, etc), in addition to the option of setting the row
  and
  column numbers manually.  As far as I can tell, in Lyx you must always
  specify the dimension explicitly.  I find this a bit of a nuisance and
  thus
  make the feature request.
 
  Thanks to the Lyx team for their great work and their consideration of
  user
  feature requests.
 
  Jim

Re: Request for Feature on Mac

2014-02-01 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse

I think this is correct, and a good idea.

el


On 2014-02-01, 05:30 , Jerry wrote:
> 
> On Jan 31, 2014, at 3:00 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse 
> wrote:
> 
>> Where would I request the following feature:
>>
>> Many Mac programs offer you the choice to Save, Don't
>> Save/Discard, Cancel in the way that is shown in the enclosed
>> alpha.jpg, ie if you use the Return/Enter key it'll save, if you
>> use the Space key it'll Not Save (Quit) and you have to use the
>> mouse to click Cancel.
>>
>> In Lyx I must use the mouse if I want to discard, because it
>> doesn't recognize the Space and it defaults to Save.
>>
>> Since I work with the keyboard mostly it is a nuisance, hence
>> this request.
>>
>> el 
> 
> If someone is going to change this, please also change "Discard"
> to "Don't Save" which is standard on OS X.
> 
> Jerry
> 
>

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

2014-02-01 Thread Steve Litt

On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:25:58 +1100
Alan L Tyree  wrote:

> Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an
> ePub exporter for LyX would make it a killer application. 
> 
> Thanks for your comments, Steve. Have you looked at Pandoc?
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan

Hi Alan,

I hadn't known about Pandoc. Thanks for the heads-up. I looked up Pandoc
here:

http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/

For the following ascii art, please switch to monospace font...

   .___.   .__.
LyXformat->|LyX|->LaTeXformat->|Pandoc|->ePubFormat
   `   

The preceding looked simple enough, so I downloaded and installed
Pandoc, and tried it on one of my simpler books. It indeed produced an
ePub, and in certain respects a good one. But not nearly good enough to
sell. No table of contents. No cover. No images: all images referred to
only by their Alt text. All cross reference labels exposed as text with
arbitrary subscript formatting in places. The good news is it managed
to keep footnotes and the like, but that's not good enough. I spoze
theoretically I could have used other options on my lyx -export
command, or on my pandoc command, so these things wouldn't happen, or
perhaps I could have made restrictions on the authoring of my book in
LyX, but these things would need to be examined later.

Another way to use Pandoc might be this:

   .___.   .__.
LyXformat->|LyX|->LaTeXformat->|Pandoc|->xhtml-.
   `   |
 .-'
 |
 |  ._. ._.
 `->|xhtml Tweaker|->xhtml->|My xhtml2epub|->ePub
``` ```

The preceding would depend on:

A) Pandoc retaining enough info, including semantic styles, to make all
   book elements
B) Pandoc producing xhtml sane enough that the tweaker is something
   that can actually be written.

So I tried using Pandoc to convert my LaTeX book to (X)html. The result
had no  (and this might be an advantage), it had all sorts of
garbage characters (perhaps this could be fixed in the  I would
insert), but, the kiss of death is this: It took all my semantic styles
(environments and character styles), kinda-sorta converted them to
presentation, and discarded the semantic styles, so that in my 
I can't specify the link between semantic styles and presentation.
Once those semantic styles are gone, no matter how clever a programmer
I am, I don't have the necessary input info to govern the look of my
eBook. This is a showstopper that cannot be recovered from. 

So unless somebody knows of a way to prevent Pandoc from pulling an
MSWord move and prematurely converting semantic to presentational, my
opinion is that Pandoc is worthless for this task.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

2014-02-01 Thread Alan L Tyree

Well, that's a bit disappointing. Thanks for the full report. I've only
used Pandoc for simple conversions, so haven't looked deeply at the
configuration options that might help with the problems that you
identify below.

One last approach might be interesting to try: What about LyX ->
(X)html, then process through Pandoc. And instead of using the LyX
exporters, try tex4ht to make the html file. And process the html file
through tidy before using Pandoc.

I haven't tried this, so please don't waste your time on it if
inconvenient. Pandoc seems at its strongest when starting with a
Markdown file.

Cheers,
Alan


Steve Litt writes:

> On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:25:58 +1100
> Alan L Tyree  wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an
>> ePub exporter for LyX would make it a killer application. 
>> 
>> Thanks for your comments, Steve. Have you looked at Pandoc?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Alan
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> I hadn't known about Pandoc. Thanks for the heads-up. I looked up Pandoc
> here:
>
> http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/
>
> For the following ascii art, please switch to monospace font...
>
>.___.   .__.
> LyXformat->|LyX|->LaTeXformat->|Pandoc|->ePubFormat
>`   
>
> The preceding looked simple enough, so I downloaded and installed
> Pandoc, and tried it on one of my simpler books. It indeed produced an
> ePub, and in certain respects a good one. But not nearly good enough to
> sell. No table of contents. No cover. No images: all images referred to
> only by their Alt text. All cross reference labels exposed as text with
> arbitrary subscript formatting in places. The good news is it managed
> to keep footnotes and the like, but that's not good enough. I spoze
> theoretically I could have used other options on my lyx -export
> command, or on my pandoc command, so these things wouldn't happen, or
> perhaps I could have made restrictions on the authoring of my book in
> LyX, but these things would need to be examined later.
>
> Another way to use Pandoc might be this:
>
>.___.   .__.
> LyXformat->|LyX|->LaTeXformat->|Pandoc|->xhtml-.
>`   |
>  .-'
>  |
>  |  ._. ._.
>  `->|xhtml Tweaker|->xhtml->|My xhtml2epub|->ePub
> ``` ```
>
> The preceding would depend on:
>
> A) Pandoc retaining enough info, including semantic styles, to make all
>book elements
> B) Pandoc producing xhtml sane enough that the tweaker is something
>that can actually be written.
>
> So I tried using Pandoc to convert my LaTeX book to (X)html. The result
> had no  (and this might be an advantage), it had all sorts of
> garbage characters (perhaps this could be fixed in the  I would
> insert), but, the kiss of death is this: It took all my semantic styles
> (environments and character styles), kinda-sorta converted them to
> presentation, and discarded the semantic styles, so that in my 
> I can't specify the link between semantic styles and presentation.
> Once those semantic styles are gone, no matter how clever a programmer
> I am, I don't have the necessary input info to govern the look of my
> eBook. This is a showstopper that cannot be recovered from. 
>
> So unless somebody knows of a way to prevent Pandoc from pulling an
> MSWord move and prematurely converting semantic to presentational, my
> opinion is that Pandoc is worthless for this task.
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


-- 
Alan L Tyree   http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan
Tel:  04 2748 6206 sip:172...@iptel.org

[ANNOUNNCE] LyX 2.0.7.1 Released

2014-02-01 Thread Richard Heck



Public release of LyX version 2.0.7.1
=

We are pleased to announce the release of LyX 2.0.7.1. This is a bugfix
release that affects Mac OSX only. Users of other operating systems do
*not* need to update to this version, and no binaries will be provided
for other operating systems.

There were some issues with the menus in LyX 2.0.7 on OSX. Specifically,
"dynamic" menu items were lost, and there was a problem restoring the
menus from full-screen operation. Both issues are fixed in 2.0.7.1.

Other bugs fixed since LyX 2.0.6 are detailed below.

The most important of these was #8854, which could lead to file corruption
in certain cases and, more often, would lead to errors in generated files
(e.g., PDFs). We encourage all LyX users to upgrade from 2.0.6.

LyX is a document processor that encourages an approach to writing based
on the structure of your documents and not simply their appearance. It is
released under a Free and Open Source Software license.

You can download LyX 2.0.7.1 from http://www.lyx.org/Download/.

If you think you found a bug in LyX 2.0.7.1, either e-mail the LyX
developers' mailing list (lyx-devel  lists.lyx.org), or open a bug
report at http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome.

If you have trouble using LyX or have a question, consult the
documentation that comes with LyX and the LyX wiki, which lives at
http://wiki.lyx.org/. If you can't find the answer there, e-mail the LyX
users' list (lyx-users at lists.lyx.org).

We hope you enjoy using LyX 2.0.7.1.

The LyX team.
http://www.lyx.org


What's new in LyX 2.0.7.1
=

** Updates:
***

* DOCUMENTATION AND LOCALIZATION

- Updated Arabic, French, Interlingua, Japanese, Nynorsk, Swedish and
  Ukrainian user interface localizations.

- Revised French Intro and User Guide.



** Bug fixes:
*

* DOCUMENT INPUT/OUTPUT

- Fix garbage in document export (and maybe other places) by making encoding
  conversions thread-safe (bug 8854).

- Fix output of ulem commands (underline etc.) which was broken as of
  LyX 2.0.6 (bug 8733).

- Fix problem with unbalanced braces in XeTeX output (bug 8765).

- Fix problems with unbalanced braces with a secondary CJK language
  (bug 8215).

- Fix state of certain language packages (polyglossia, japanese) in
  child documents (bug 8770).

- Fix compilation of documents containing chemical equations and math
  integrals (bug 8731).

- Fix compilation with nested ("sub") custom floats.

- Fix import of CSV-files.

- Added h5 and h6 as HTML tags for Paragraph and Subparagraph.

- Include alt tag when exporting math as images (bug 8746).


* USER INTERFACE

- Fix crash when saving document with module that is not present (bug
  8523).

- Fix crash when changing alignment of several cells in tabular (bug 8859).

- Disable invalid actions in empty outliner that could trigger a crash
  (bug 8885).

- Fix warning when setting layout box when Plain Layout is used (bug 8727).

- Fix bug where searching for next change may leave an empty paragraph
  where cursor was (bug 3199).

- Fix activation of branches from command line (bug 8627).

- Fix display of appendix counters in some classes (bug 8666).

- Fix toggling of "misc" font options (bug 8764).

- Handle undo correctly when a branch is (de)activated.

- Update a bibliography entry's label when it is emptied.

- Insets in a bibliography entry are shown as text in the citation dialog.

- Correctly detect python scripts required by the preview mechanism.

- Fix display of file names with ampersands in the tab header (bug 8757).

- The koma-script book class numbers equations by chapter.

- Fix shortcut conflict in the citation dialog (bug 8878).

- Fix wrong display of style "Description" in "article (paper)" class
  (bug 8869).

- Fix the missing menu entry for "Insert Branch ".


- Fix the missing dynamic menus in general and restore correctly from 
fullscreen.


* DOCUMENTATION AND LOCALIZATION

- Make the aa.lyx template file and the aa_sample.lyx example file 
compilable.


- Make the AEA.lyx template file compilable.

- Make the landslide example file compilable.

- Fix problem that the Chinese Tutorial could not be viewed as PDF on
  some systems.


* LYXHTML

- Fix problem with size of superscripts and such inside footnotes (bug 
8610).


- Add missing space before the edition in the bibliography (part of bug 
8488).


- Fix random character inserted as year modifier in author-year citations.


* BUILD/INSTALLATION

- Add support for automake 1.13.

- Fix compilation with clang LLVM compiler.

- Fix Qt tools search when a Qt directory has been specified.

Re: Feature request

2014-02-01 Thread Scott Kostyshak

Thanks Jim. I just responded to your feature request. Let's continue
the conversation on the trac ticket.

Scott

On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Jim Rockford  wrote:
> Thanks for your attention Scott.  I just submitted the enhancement request
> you suggested.
>
> Best,
> Jim
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Do you think something like the insert table icon would work well for
>> matrices? If you haven't tried it yet, click on the "Insert table"
>> icon in the top toolbar. If matrices worked in this way, would you
>> consider that better or worse than how MathType does it?
>>
>> Can you open an enhancement request on trac for this?
>> http://www.lyx.org/trac
>> Also on the trac ticket can you post a screenshot of what MathType
>> does? I'm wondering what the user interface is like.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Jim Rockford 
>> wrote:
>> > MathType has the nice feature that when you click to insert a matrix,
>> > one
>> > has the choice of immediately inserting a typical low-dimensional matrix
>> > (i.e. 2x2, 3x3, 3x1, etc), in addition to the option of setting the row
>> > and
>> > column numbers manually.  As far as I can tell, in Lyx you must always
>> > specify the dimension explicitly.  I find this a bit of a nuisance and
>> > thus
>> > make the feature request.
>> >
>> > Thanks to the Lyx team for their great work and their consideration of
>> > user
>> > feature requests.
>> >
>> > Jim
>
>

Re: Request for Feature on Mac

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

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