Re: Lyx 2.0 can\'t read Lyx 1.6.x documents

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Glaser, track IT 

I did. Had no influence.


Am 12.02.2014 23:57, schrieb Stephan Witt:

Am 12.02.2014 um 10:25 schrieb Ralf Glaser, track IT 
ralf.gla...@trackitsystems.de:


I tested adding the LyX PATH extension to the PATH variable and LyX works fine 
now.
Unfortunately this results in cygwins's python version beeing no longer 
accessible as LyX's python is beeing used now.
It's a workaround but i'd really like to make LyX add it's PATH prefix as 
intended.

Did you try to add the path to the PATH-Prefix in LyX's preferences pane 
explicitely?


I noticed that the PATH variable is actually called 'Path' instead of 'PATH' on 
my WinXP machine. Maybe this matters...

Don't know this.

Stephan

Re: Struggling again on lyx--doc/odt conversion

2014-02-13 Thread Guenter Milde 
On 2014-02-12, stefano franchi wrote:

 And switching from LuaTeX to pdflatex is not
 really an option, as the document and the bibliography have a mix of
 English, French, and Italian, with lots of diacritics. I would have to
 manually convert everything to Latex's codes, I guess. Or find a tool that
 does it for me.

As long as you do not include esoteric Unicode characters, also 8-bit
tex engines (pdflatex/latex) should work as long as you set the right
LaTeX input encoding.

  In LyX, this means DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding: Unicode (utf8).

  In the LaTeX source, this translates to \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}

This should do the trick for Latin (including Latin-extended and many more
diacritics), Greek (with a not too old TeX distribution) and Cyrillic
script.

BibTeX has some problems with Unicode, but BibLaTeX should work with
8-bit tex engines, too.

As I am working on LaTeX Unicode support, I would be interested in
problem reports.

Günter

Re: Struggling again on lyx--doc/odt conversion

2014-02-13 Thread stefano franchi 
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:

 On 2014-02-12, stefano franchi wrote:

  And switching from LuaTeX to pdflatex is not
  really an option, as the document and the bibliography have a mix of
  English, French, and Italian, with lots of diacritics. I would have to
  manually convert everything to Latex's codes, I guess. Or find a tool
 that
  does it for me.

 As long as you do not include esoteric Unicode characters, also 8-bit
 tex engines (pdflatex/latex) should work as long as you set the right
 LaTeX input encoding.

   In LyX, this means DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding: Unicode (utf8).

   In the LaTeX source, this translates to \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}


Yes, that is true and now I remember going down this road in the past.
I was mixing up TeX engines and bibtex engines.
I actually had to switch to Xe|LuaTex for a big project where the publisher
needed the final
pdf in the font used by their book series (and misremembered what caused
the transition).
This would obviously not be an issue for a converter to doc, where font
information are irrelevant,
although it may be an issue for the round-trip if the final output is pdf.
(I guess once could always switch engines
before final typesetting, but it adds a further step to the process).



 This should do the trick for Latin (including Latin-extended and many more
 diacritics), Greek (with a not too old TeX distribution) and Cyrillic
 script.

 BibTeX has some problems with Unicode,


To put it lightly...

but BibLaTeX should work with
 8-bit tex engines, too.


Tes Biblatex works fine pdfLatex (I assume that's what you were referring
to with 8-bit tex engines).
Biblatex works also with bibtex8, but biber is so much better, that I'd
rather use it if possible. Among many other things, biber allows users to
mix and match different reference formats, and that is going to be a big
plus with Humanities users (where Endnote is prevalent and usually given
away by all major US universities, with free training on top of it).

As I am working on LaTeX Unicode support, I would be interested in
 problem reports.


Will keep that in mind.


Cheers,

Stefano



-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Struggling again on lyx--doc/odt conversion

2014-02-13 Thread Steve Litt 
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:37:05 +0100
Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:03 PM, stefano franchi
 stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:

[clip]

 
  Success!
 
 Congratulations Stefano!
 
 Since this is a recurring issue even for veteran LyX users (as you no
 doubt know), would you mind sharing your extensive experience on the
 wiki? We already have a http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ConvertingFromWord ,
 which looks badly outdated though. We also have a
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/ExportingRichTextFormatWithLaTeX2rtf . But it
 would be useful if we added a http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ConvertingToWord
 , compiling tips on the various options available to users.

And, after doing that, Stephano, it would be great if you responded to
this thread again, adding SOLVED to the subject, so people searching
for the answer can easily find the solution. Your response could
reference the Wiki entry.

And congratulations!!!

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: No pdf reader

2014-02-13 Thread Scott Kostyshak 
Hi Greg,

I'm putting this back on the list because I have no knowledge of
Windows. However, this seems like the same problem as
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg98064.html
who is also using Windows 8.
I'm wondering if this is an issue specific to users on Windows 8.

Using Sumatra PDF worked for that user.

What program is used to view DVI?

What is the name of your Adobe Reader executable? If you're not sure
how to find this out, let us know and we can explain.

Best,

Scott

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Greg Love gregory.ray.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, this is a computer running Windows 8.1.  I wonder if this is part of
 the problem.  My work computer runs Windows 7 and has no problem.

 There is something called Reader (I think this is a Microsoft product) and
 Adobe Touch.  BTW, I don't have trouble viewing as dvi format.


 Greg


 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Greg Love gregory.ray.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Whenever I try to view an LyX document as a pdf, ie pdflatex, I get a
  message that there is no pdf viewer installed.  This just isn't true.
 
  The computer is running Windows 8.1 and LyX 2.07.  I use another
  computer
  running Windows 7 and LyX 2.07 and do not get this error.
 
  Greg

 Hi Greg,

 This sounds like a frustrating issue. I have heard of users having
 good success with Sumatra PDF reader. You could give that a try.
 Whether you do or not, try going to Tools  Reconfigure. Restart LyX
 and see if you have the same problem.

 What PDF readers do you have installed? What is the name of their
 executable files?

 Scott

Re: Lyx 2.0 can\'t read Lyx 1.6.x documents

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Glaser, track IT 

I did. Had no influence.


Am 12.02.2014 23:57, schrieb Stephan Witt:

Am 12.02.2014 um 10:25 schrieb Ralf Glaser, track IT 
ralf.gla...@trackitsystems.de:


I tested adding the LyX PATH extension to the PATH variable and LyX works fine 
now.
Unfortunately this results in cygwins's python version beeing no longer 
accessible as LyX's python is beeing used now.
It's a workaround but i'd really like to make LyX add it's PATH prefix as 
intended.

Did you try to add the path to the PATH-Prefix in LyX's preferences pane 
explicitely?


I noticed that the PATH variable is actually called 'Path' instead of 'PATH' on 
my WinXP machine. Maybe this matters...

Don't know this.

Stephan

Re: Struggling again on lyx--doc/odt conversion

2014-02-13 Thread Guenter Milde 
On 2014-02-12, stefano franchi wrote:

 And switching from LuaTeX to pdflatex is not
 really an option, as the document and the bibliography have a mix of
 English, French, and Italian, with lots of diacritics. I would have to
 manually convert everything to Latex's codes, I guess. Or find a tool that
 does it for me.

As long as you do not include esoteric Unicode characters, also 8-bit
tex engines (pdflatex/latex) should work as long as you set the right
LaTeX input encoding.

  In LyX, this means DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding: Unicode (utf8).

  In the LaTeX source, this translates to \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}

This should do the trick for Latin (including Latin-extended and many more
diacritics), Greek (with a not too old TeX distribution) and Cyrillic
script.

BibTeX has some problems with Unicode, but BibLaTeX should work with
8-bit tex engines, too.

As I am working on LaTeX Unicode support, I would be interested in
problem reports.

Günter

Re: Struggling again on lyx--doc/odt conversion

2014-02-13 Thread stefano franchi 
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:

 On 2014-02-12, stefano franchi wrote:

  And switching from LuaTeX to pdflatex is not
  really an option, as the document and the bibliography have a mix of
  English, French, and Italian, with lots of diacritics. I would have to
  manually convert everything to Latex's codes, I guess. Or find a tool
 that
  does it for me.

 As long as you do not include esoteric Unicode characters, also 8-bit
 tex engines (pdflatex/latex) should work as long as you set the right
 LaTeX input encoding.

   In LyX, this means DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding: Unicode (utf8).

   In the LaTeX source, this translates to \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}


Yes, that is true and now I remember going down this road in the past.
I was mixing up TeX engines and bibtex engines.
I actually had to switch to Xe|LuaTex for a big project where the publisher
needed the final
pdf in the font used by their book series (and misremembered what caused
the transition).
This would obviously not be an issue for a converter to doc, where font
information are irrelevant,
although it may be an issue for the round-trip if the final output is pdf.
(I guess once could always switch engines
before final typesetting, but it adds a further step to the process).



 This should do the trick for Latin (including Latin-extended and many more
 diacritics), Greek (with a not too old TeX distribution) and Cyrillic
 script.

 BibTeX has some problems with Unicode,


To put it lightly...

but BibLaTeX should work with
 8-bit tex engines, too.


Tes Biblatex works fine pdfLatex (I assume that's what you were referring
to with 8-bit tex engines).
Biblatex works also with bibtex8, but biber is so much better, that I'd
rather use it if possible. Among many other things, biber allows users to
mix and match different reference formats, and that is going to be a big
plus with Humanities users (where Endnote is prevalent and usually given
away by all major US universities, with free training on top of it).

As I am working on LaTeX Unicode support, I would be interested in
 problem reports.


Will keep that in mind.


Cheers,

Stefano



-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Struggling again on lyx--doc/odt conversion

2014-02-13 Thread Steve Litt 
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:37:05 +0100
Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:03 PM, stefano franchi
 stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:

[clip]

 
  Success!
 
 Congratulations Stefano!
 
 Since this is a recurring issue even for veteran LyX users (as you no
 doubt know), would you mind sharing your extensive experience on the
 wiki? We already have a http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ConvertingFromWord ,
 which looks badly outdated though. We also have a
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/ExportingRichTextFormatWithLaTeX2rtf . But it
 would be useful if we added a http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ConvertingToWord
 , compiling tips on the various options available to users.

And, after doing that, Stephano, it would be great if you responded to
this thread again, adding SOLVED to the subject, so people searching
for the answer can easily find the solution. Your response could
reference the Wiki entry.

And congratulations!!!

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: No pdf reader

2014-02-13 Thread Scott Kostyshak 
Hi Greg,

I'm putting this back on the list because I have no knowledge of
Windows. However, this seems like the same problem as
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg98064.html
who is also using Windows 8.
I'm wondering if this is an issue specific to users on Windows 8.

Using Sumatra PDF worked for that user.

What program is used to view DVI?

What is the name of your Adobe Reader executable? If you're not sure
how to find this out, let us know and we can explain.

Best,

Scott

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Greg Love gregory.ray.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, this is a computer running Windows 8.1.  I wonder if this is part of
 the problem.  My work computer runs Windows 7 and has no problem.

 There is something called Reader (I think this is a Microsoft product) and
 Adobe Touch.  BTW, I don't have trouble viewing as dvi format.


 Greg


 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Greg Love gregory.ray.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Whenever I try to view an LyX document as a pdf, ie pdflatex, I get a
  message that there is no pdf viewer installed.  This just isn't true.
 
  The computer is running Windows 8.1 and LyX 2.07.  I use another
  computer
  running Windows 7 and LyX 2.07 and do not get this error.
 
  Greg

 Hi Greg,

 This sounds like a frustrating issue. I have heard of users having
 good success with Sumatra PDF reader. You could give that a try.
 Whether you do or not, try going to Tools  Reconfigure. Restart LyX
 and see if you have the same problem.

 What PDF readers do you have installed? What is the name of their
 executable files?

 Scott

Re: Lyx 2.0 can\'t read Lyx 1.6.x documents

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Glaser, track IT 

I did. Had no influence.


Am 12.02.2014 23:57, schrieb Stephan Witt:

Am 12.02.2014 um 10:25 schrieb "Ralf Glaser, track IT" 
:


I tested adding the LyX PATH extension to the PATH variable and LyX works fine 
now.
Unfortunately this results in cygwins's python version beeing no longer 
accessible as LyX's python is beeing used now.
It's a workaround but i'd really like to make LyX add it's PATH prefix as 
intended.

Did you try to add the path to the PATH-Prefix in LyX's preferences pane 
explicitely?


I noticed that the PATH variable is actually called 'Path' instead of 'PATH' on 
my WinXP machine. Maybe this matters...

Don't know this.

Stephan

Re: Struggling again on lyx-->doc/odt conversion

2014-02-13 Thread Guenter Milde 
On 2014-02-12, stefano franchi wrote:

> And switching from LuaTeX to pdflatex is not
> really an option, as the document and the bibliography have a mix of
> English, French, and Italian, with lots of diacritics. I would have to
> manually convert everything to Latex's codes, I guess. Or find a tool that
> does it for me.

As long as you do not include "esoteric" Unicode characters, also 8-bit
tex engines (pdflatex/latex) should work as long as you set the right
LaTeX input encoding.

  In LyX, this means Document>Settings>Language>Encoding: Unicode (utf8).

  In the LaTeX source, this translates to \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}

This should do the trick for Latin (including Latin-extended and many more
diacritics), Greek (with a not too old TeX distribution) and Cyrillic
script.

BibTeX has some problems with Unicode, but BibLaTeX should work with
8-bit tex engines, too.

As I am working on LaTeX Unicode support, I would be interested in
problem reports.

Günter

Re: Struggling again on lyx-->doc/odt conversion

2014-02-13 Thread stefano franchi 
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Guenter Milde  wrote:

> On 2014-02-12, stefano franchi wrote:
>
> > And switching from LuaTeX to pdflatex is not
> > really an option, as the document and the bibliography have a mix of
> > English, French, and Italian, with lots of diacritics. I would have to
> > manually convert everything to Latex's codes, I guess. Or find a tool
> that
> > does it for me.
>
> As long as you do not include "esoteric" Unicode characters, also 8-bit
> tex engines (pdflatex/latex) should work as long as you set the right
> LaTeX input encoding.
>
>   In LyX, this means Document>Settings>Language>Encoding: Unicode (utf8).
>
>   In the LaTeX source, this translates to \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
>
>
Yes, that is true and now I remember going down this road in the past.
I was mixing up TeX engines and bibtex engines.
I actually had to switch to Xe|LuaTex for a big project where the publisher
needed the final
pdf in the font used by their book series (and misremembered what caused
the transition).
This would obviously not be an issue for a converter to doc, where font
information are irrelevant,
although it may be an issue for the round-trip if the final output is pdf.
(I guess once could always switch engines
before final typesetting, but it adds a further step to the process).



> This should do the trick for Latin (including Latin-extended and many more
> diacritics), Greek (with a not too old TeX distribution) and Cyrillic
> script.
>
> BibTeX has some problems with Unicode,


To put it lightly...

but BibLaTeX should work with
> 8-bit tex engines, too.
>
>
Tes Biblatex works fine pdfLatex (I assume that's what you were referring
to with "8-bit tex engines").
Biblatex works also with bibtex8, but biber is so much better, that I'd
rather use it if possible. Among many other things, biber allows users to
mix and match different reference formats, and that is going to be a big
plus with Humanities users (where Endnote is prevalent and usually given
away by all major US universities, with free training on top of it).

As I am working on LaTeX Unicode support, I would be interested in
> problem reports.
>
>
Will keep that in mind.


Cheers,

Stefano



-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Struggling again on lyx-->doc/odt conversion

2014-02-13 Thread Steve Litt 
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:37:05 +0100
Liviu Andronic  wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:03 PM, stefano franchi
>  wrote:

[clip]

> >
> > Success!
> >
> Congratulations Stefano!
> 
> Since this is a recurring issue even for veteran LyX users (as you no
> doubt know), would you mind sharing your extensive experience on the
> wiki? We already have a http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ConvertingFromWord ,
> which looks badly outdated though. We also have a
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/ExportingRichTextFormatWithLaTeX2rtf . But it
> would be useful if we added a http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ConvertingToWord
> , compiling tips on the various options available to users.

And, after doing that, Stephano, it would be great if you responded to
this thread again, adding  to the subject, so people searching
for the answer can easily find the solution. Your response could
reference the Wiki entry.

And congratulations!!!

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: No pdf reader

2014-02-13 Thread Scott Kostyshak 
Hi Greg,

I'm putting this back on the list because I have no knowledge of
Windows. However, this seems like the same problem as
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg98064.html
who is also using Windows 8.
I'm wondering if this is an issue specific to users on Windows 8.

Using Sumatra PDF worked for that user.

What program is used to view DVI?

What is the name of your Adobe Reader executable? If you're not sure
how to find this out, let us know and we can explain.

Best,

Scott

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Greg Love  wrote:
> Well, this is a computer running Windows 8.1.  I wonder if this is part of
> the problem.  My work computer runs Windows 7 and has no problem.
>
> There is something called Reader (I think this is a Microsoft product) and
> Adobe Touch.  BTW, I don't have trouble viewing as dvi format.
>
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Greg Love 
>> wrote:
>> > Whenever I try to view an LyX document as a pdf, ie pdflatex, I get a
>> > message that there is no pdf viewer installed.  This just isn't true.
>> >
>> > The computer is running Windows 8.1 and LyX 2.07.  I use another
>> > computer
>> > running Windows 7 and LyX 2.07 and do not get this error.
>> >
>> > Greg
>>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> This sounds like a frustrating issue. I have heard of users having
>> good success with Sumatra PDF reader. You could give that a try.
>> Whether you do or not, try going to Tools > Reconfigure. Restart LyX
>> and see if you have the same problem.
>>
>> What PDF readers do you have installed? What is the name of their
>> executable files?
>>
>> Scott
>
>