Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX version 2.1.0 (rc1)

[Guenter Milde]

On 2014-04-01, Wolfgang Keller wrote:

 Probably the only thing that's still left from the original LyTeX (must
 have been 1.6.x back then) is the folder structure and the startupt
 script.

Hey, if you have a fairly uncommon setup, dont expect everything to work out
of the box!

...

 So if anything doesn't work, I'll just sent a corresponding rant to the
 list and roll back.

If you would be more polite instead of sending a rant, I would say this
is OK.

...

 This can destroy your LyX settings so that it can become unusable.

 It won't destroy anything that I can't roll back by simply trashing
 the LyX subfolder that's kaputt and by replacing it with the last
 known working version.

 That is *one* of the *many* advantages of installer-free application
 distribution.

 No need for installers, no need for uninstallers, backups are trivial
 and so are rollbacks.

So, why do you use the installer at all?

Günter

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 Nice to see the ability to export a LyX file as a cropped PDF in version 
 2.1.0.x. However, the document is actually exported as a file, whereas it 
 would more useful if it were instead or also placed on the clipboard for 
 pasting into another document--that would fully allow LyX to be used as a 
 standalone equation editor for other applications.

Good idea. I'm not sure how easy this would be, but do consider
opening a feature request on the bug tracker.

One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
how exactly that could work.

Liviu

 I use OS X and I notice that LyX is now AppleScriptable. Maybe there's a 
 solution using AppleScript.

 Jerry



-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
over lightweight) but it is not well known.

To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

For more info, see
https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ

To install, I believe it's a simple
cmake .
make
sudo make install

First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
you want help with anything.

Best,

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the application 
you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is also experimental 
support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at least Qt 5.2.

Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to run?

Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:

 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.

 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ

 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install

 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.

 Best,

 Scott

 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
 OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
 for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
 other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.

 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?

Yes, unless I guess it is compiled statically with the libraries. But
you should ask Lukáš. Send him an email or join co...@googlegroups.com
and post there.

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 Nice to see the ability to export a LyX file as a cropped PDF in version 
 2.1.0.x. However, the document is actually exported as a file, whereas it 
 would more useful if it were instead or also placed on the clipboard for 
 pasting into another document--that would fully allow LyX to be used as a 
 standalone equation editor for other applications.
 
 Good idea. I'm not sure how easy this would be, but do consider
 opening a feature request on the bug tracker.

Done.
Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net:

 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
 OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
 for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
 other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.

Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: To compile 
with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version.

 
 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?

The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
build it.
So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
matter.

Stephan

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2014 um 07:10 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net:

 Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net:
 
 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support 
 for OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete 
 reason for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of 
 access to other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.
 
 Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: To 
 compile with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version.
 
 
 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?
 
 The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
 build it.
 So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
 matter.

Ah, I got it. You're talking about CopyQ, not LyX. Sorry for the confusion.

Stephan

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX version 2.1.0 (rc1)

[Guenter Milde]

On 2014-04-01, Wolfgang Keller wrote:

 Probably the only thing that's still left from the original LyTeX (must
 have been 1.6.x back then) is the folder structure and the startupt
 script.

Hey, if you have a fairly uncommon setup, dont expect everything to work out
of the box!

...

 So if anything doesn't work, I'll just sent a corresponding rant to the
 list and roll back.

If you would be more polite instead of sending a rant, I would say this
is OK.

...

 This can destroy your LyX settings so that it can become unusable.

 It won't destroy anything that I can't roll back by simply trashing
 the LyX subfolder that's kaputt and by replacing it with the last
 known working version.

 That is *one* of the *many* advantages of installer-free application
 distribution.

 No need for installers, no need for uninstallers, backups are trivial
 and so are rollbacks.

So, why do you use the installer at all?

Günter

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 Nice to see the ability to export a LyX file as a cropped PDF in version 
 2.1.0.x. However, the document is actually exported as a file, whereas it 
 would more useful if it were instead or also placed on the clipboard for 
 pasting into another document--that would fully allow LyX to be used as a 
 standalone equation editor for other applications.

Good idea. I'm not sure how easy this would be, but do consider
opening a feature request on the bug tracker.

One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
how exactly that could work.

Liviu

 I use OS X and I notice that LyX is now AppleScriptable. Maybe there's a 
 solution using AppleScript.

 Jerry



-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
over lightweight) but it is not well known.

To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

For more info, see
https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ

To install, I believe it's a simple
cmake .
make
sudo make install

First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
you want help with anything.

Best,

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the application 
you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is also experimental 
support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at least Qt 5.2.

Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to run?

Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:

 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.

 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ

 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install

 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.

 Best,

 Scott

 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
 OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
 for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
 other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.

 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?

Yes, unless I guess it is compiled statically with the libraries. But
you should ask Lukáš. Send him an email or join co...@googlegroups.com
and post there.

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 Nice to see the ability to export a LyX file as a cropped PDF in version 
 2.1.0.x. However, the document is actually exported as a file, whereas it 
 would more useful if it were instead or also placed on the clipboard for 
 pasting into another document--that would fully allow LyX to be used as a 
 standalone equation editor for other applications.
 
 Good idea. I'm not sure how easy this would be, but do consider
 opening a feature request on the bug tracker.

Done.
Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net:

 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
 OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
 for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
 other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.

Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: To compile 
with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version.

 
 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?

The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
build it.
So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
matter.

Stephan

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2014 um 07:10 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net:

 Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net:
 
 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support 
 for OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete 
 reason for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of 
 access to other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.
 
 Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: To 
 compile with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version.
 
 
 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?
 
 The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
 build it.
 So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
 matter.

Ah, I got it. You're talking about CopyQ, not LyX. Sorry for the confusion.

Stephan

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX version 2.1.0 (rc1)

[Guenter Milde]

On 2014-04-01, Wolfgang Keller wrote:

> Probably the only thing that's still left from the original LyTeX (must
> have been 1.6.x back then) is the folder structure and the startupt
> script.

Hey, if you have a fairly uncommon setup, dont expect everything to work out
of the box!

...

> So if anything doesn't work, I'll just sent a corresponding rant to the
> list and "roll back".

If you would be more polite instead of sending a rant, I would say this
is OK.

...

>> This can destroy your LyX settings so that it can become unusable.

> It won't destroy anything that I can't roll back by simply trashing
> the LyX subfolder that's "kaputt" and by replacing it with the last
> known working version.

> That is *one* of the *many* advantages of installer-free application
> distribution.

> No need for installers, no need for uninstallers, backups are trivial
> and so are "rollbacks".

So, why do you use the installer at all?

Günter

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jerry  wrote:
> Nice to see the ability to export a LyX file as a cropped PDF in version 
> 2.1.0.x. However, the document is actually exported as a file, whereas it 
> would more useful if it were instead or also placed on the clipboard for 
> pasting into another document--that would fully allow LyX to be used as a 
> standalone equation editor for other applications.
>
Good idea. I'm not sure how easy this would be, but do consider
opening a feature request on the bug tracker.

One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
how exactly that could work.

Liviu

> I use OS X and I notice that LyX is now AppleScriptable. Maybe there's a 
> solution using AppleScript.
>
> Jerry



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:

> One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
> image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
> PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
> for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
> have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
> how exactly that could work.

Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
over lightweight) but it is not well known.

To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
copyq write image/svg - < image.svg

For more info, see
https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ

To install, I believe it's a simple
cmake .
make
sudo make install

First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
you want help with anything.

Best,

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
> 
>> One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
>> image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
>> PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
>> for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
>> have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
>> how exactly that could work.
> 
> Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
> works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
> experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
> responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
> I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
> clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
> over lightweight) but it is not well known.
> 
> To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
> copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
> 
> For more info, see
> https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
> 
> To install, I believe it's a simple
> cmake .
> make
> sudo make install
> 
> First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
> instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
> you want help with anything.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Scott

Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
other versions. Also, the web site states, "To compile and run the application 
you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is also experimental 
support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at least Qt 5.2."

Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to run?

Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Jerry  wrote:
>
> On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
>>> image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
>>> PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
>>> for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
>>> have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
>>> how exactly that could work.
>>
>> Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
>> works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
>> experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
>> responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
>> I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
>> clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
>> over lightweight) but it is not well known.
>>
>> To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
>> copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
>>
>> For more info, see
>> https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
>>
>> To install, I believe it's a simple
>> cmake .
>> make
>> sudo make install
>>
>> First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
>> instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
>> you want help with anything.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Scott
>
> Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
> OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
> for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
> other versions. Also, the web site states, "To compile and run the 
> application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
> also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
> least Qt 5.2."
>
> Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
> run?

Yes, unless I guess it is compiled statically with the libraries. But
you should ask Lukáš. Send him an email or join co...@googlegroups.com
and post there.

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jerry  wrote:
>> Nice to see the ability to export a LyX file as a cropped PDF in version 
>> 2.1.0.x. However, the document is actually exported as a file, whereas it 
>> would more useful if it were instead or also placed on the clipboard for 
>> pasting into another document--that would fully allow LyX to be used as a 
>> standalone equation editor for other applications.
>> 
> Good idea. I'm not sure how easy this would be, but do consider
> opening a feature request on the bug tracker.

Done.
Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry :

> 
> On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
>>> image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
>>> PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
>>> for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
>>> have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
>>> how exactly that could work.
>> 
>> Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
>> works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
>> experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
>> responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
>> I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
>> clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
>> over lightweight) but it is not well known.
>> 
>> To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
>> copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
>> 
>> For more info, see
>> https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
>> 
>> To install, I believe it's a simple
>> cmake .
>> make
>> sudo make install
>> 
>> First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
>> instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
>> you want help with anything.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Scott
> 
> Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
> OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
> for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
> other versions. Also, the web site states, "To compile and run the 
> application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
> also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
> least Qt 5.2."

Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: "To compile 
with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version."

> 
> Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
> run?

The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
build it.
So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
matter.

Stephan

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2014 um 07:10 schrieb Stephan Witt :

> Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry :
> 
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
>>> 
>>> Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
>>> works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
>>> experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
>>> responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
>>> I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
>>> clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
>>> over lightweight) but it is not well known.
>>> 
>>> To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
>>> copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
>>> 
>>> For more info, see
>>> https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
>>> 
>>> To install, I believe it's a simple
>>> cmake .
>>> make
>>> sudo make install
>>> 
>>> First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
>>> instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
>>> you want help with anything.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Scott
>> 
>> Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support 
>> for OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete 
>> reason for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of 
>> access to other versions. Also, the web site states, "To compile and run the 
>> application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
>> also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
>> least Qt 5.2."
> 
> Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: "To 
> compile with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version."
> 
>> 
>> Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
>> run?
> 
> The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
> build it.
> So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
> matter.

Ah, I got it. You're talking about CopyQ, not LyX. Sorry for the confusion.

Stephan