Re: Assigning keyboard shortcut to 3rd level menu item

2017-08-12 Thread Paul A. Rubin 

On 08/12/2017 05:25 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Sat, 12 Aug 2017, Paul A Rubin wrote:


Curious. Your setup must be a tad nonstandard.


Paul,

  Could be ... because I am.

Ain't we all!



I tested it at my end (using " pdf2") and it worked. In the list of file
formats (under preferences) on both my machines, pdf2 is "shorthand" for
"PDF (pdflatex)". That's a LyX default, not something I screwed with.


  Hmmm-m-m. Under Tools -> Preferences -> File Handling -> File 
formats for
default output formats with TeX fonts PDF (pdflatex), with non-TeX 
fonts DVI

(LuaTeX). The Shortcut text entry widget is empty.

  I use the T1 TeX font encoding; the default body text typeface is
Palatino.
Same one mine, but that's not the key bit. And, in hindsight, it's 
possible I gave you the way to export to the wrong format.


Under Tools > Preferences > File Handling > File formats, click on the 
Format select box at the top and scroll to "LaTeX (pdflatex)". I suspect 
that under "Short name" you have "pdflatex", as I do. Now switch the 
select box to "PDF (pdflatex)", and I suspect the short name is now 
"pdf2". At least it is on my systems.


So I gave you the shortcut to export the buffer as a PDF file, compiled 
using pdflatex, which might not be what you had in mind. What worked for 
you should be producing a LaTeX source file compatible with pdflatex. If 
that's what you want, dandy. The expression of confusion by LyX when you 
used "pdf2" suggests that maybe it doesn't know how to compile to PDF 
using pdflatex (converter not specified, didn't find pdflatex on your 
system, finds pdflatex morally objectionable, thinks it's a Russian 
plot/Chinese hoax/SNL skit, ...).


Paul

Re: Assigning keyboard shortcut to 3rd level menu item

2017-08-12 Thread Rich Shepard 

On Sat, 12 Aug 2017, Paul A Rubin wrote:


Curious. Your setup must be a tad nonstandard.


Paul,

  Could be ... because I am.


I tested it at my end (using " pdf2") and it worked. In the list of file
formats (under preferences) on both my machines, pdf2 is "shorthand" for
"PDF (pdflatex)". That's a LyX default, not something I screwed with.


  Hmmm-m-m. Under Tools -> Preferences -> File Handling -> File formats for
default output formats with TeX fonts PDF (pdflatex), with non-TeX fonts DVI
(LuaTeX). The Shortcut text entry widget is empty.

  I use the T1 TeX font encoding; the default body text typeface is
Palatino.

Rich

Re: Assigning keyboard shortcut to 3rd level menu item

2017-08-12 Thread Paul A Rubin 


On 08/12/2017 03:26 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:


  I selected buffer-export with the chord Ctrl-X H, clicked modify, and
added ' pdf2'. Clicked the OK and Save buttons.

  When I tested it the status bar said, 'don't know how to export 
format.'

But, ... changing ' pdf2' to ' pdflatex' works.
Curious. Your setup must be a tad nonstandard. I tested it at my end 
(using " pdf2") and it worked. In the list of file formats (under 
preferences) on both my machines, pdf2 is "shorthand" for "PDF 
(pdflatex)". That's a LyX default, not something I screwed with.


Paul

Re: Assigning keyboard shortcut to 3rd level menu item

2017-08-12 Thread Rich Shepard 

On Sat, 12 Aug 2017, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


It's not entirely intuitive IMHO.


Paul,

  You win this week's understatement award.


Start out doing what you were doing (clicking Modify, assigning the
chord), but before committing the key assignment put the cursor in the
text field next to "buffer-export" and add " pdf2" including the leading
space.


  I selected buffer-export with the chord Ctrl-X H, clicked modify, and
added ' pdf2'. Clicked the OK and Save buttons.

  When I tested it the status bar said, 'don't know how to export format.'
But, ... changing ' pdf2' to ' pdflatex' works.

Thanks very much,

Rich

Re: Assigning keyboard shortcut to 3rd level menu item

2017-08-12 Thread Paul A. Rubin 

On 08/12/2017 12:49 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
  I'm certain this can be done, but since I've not yet done so I'm not 
sure

how to proceed.

  In Preferences -> Editing -> Shortcuts -> Document and Window I see
'buffer-export' has two chords: Ctrl-H (in plain font) and Ctrl-X H (in
boldface font). Why? I don't know, but that's what's there.

  What I would like to do is assign Ctrl-X H to File -> Export -> 
pdflinux

(or buffer-export-pdflinux).

  When I highlight 'buffer-export' and select the Modify button I'm not
seeing a way to add the pdflinux as the default export format.

  A cluestick will help.

Rich
It's not entirely intuitive IMHO. Start out doing what you were doing 
(clicking Modify, assigning the chord), but before committing the key 
assignment put the cursor in the text field next to "buffer-export" and 
add " pdf2" including the leading space. It will create a new line in 
the command list, leaving buffer-export unchanged ... which is okay, 
since the buffer-export command by itself doesn't do anything (other 
than creating a status message something like "Say what, kemosabe?").


Paul

Assigning keyboard shortcut to 3rd level menu item

2017-08-12 Thread Rich Shepard 

  I'm certain this can be done, but since I've not yet done so I'm not sure
how to proceed.

  In Preferences -> Editing -> Shortcuts -> Document and Window I see
'buffer-export' has two chords: Ctrl-H (in plain font) and Ctrl-X H (in
boldface font). Why? I don't know, but that's what's there.

  What I would like to do is assign Ctrl-X H to File -> Export -> pdflinux
(or buffer-export-pdflinux).

  When I highlight 'buffer-export' and select the Modify button I'm not
seeing a way to add the pdflinux as the default export format.

  A cluestick will help.

Rich

Re: LyX native format stuck in the middle

2017-08-12 Thread Steve Litt 
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 09:23:06 +0100
José Abílio Matos  wrote:

> On Monday, 31 July 2017 18.30.31 WEST Steve Litt wrote:
> > I know what I'm asking for is monsterously difficult, and I know I
> > certainly don't have the technical chops to do it. But when it gets
> > done, LyX will be a brand new world,  finally living up to its
> > promise of write once, deploy everywhere.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > SteveT  
> 
> The main technical problems of this enterprise are the math insets.
> Should they also be converted to an xml like format?

Hi José,

You ask two different questions:

1) Should math insets be well formed XML?

2) MUST math insets be well formed XML?

To #1, yes, it would be nice, and then math insets could be handled via
an XML parser. This is something we'd want to work toward at some
point in the future.

To #2, HECKNO! The perfect is the enemy of the good, so it would be
silly to hold up the rest of the XMLization just for math insets. As
long as you can encapsulate the math insets in an XML tag in a way that
they won't cause an XML parser to choke or abort, that's wonderful: The
XML parser can hand the application programmer the encasing XML node,
and the application programmer can parse apart the math insets
herhimself.

SteveT