Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

2018-05-11 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 05/11/2018 03:37 PM, Jim Rockford wrote:
> In my 20+ years in the world of science, I have not known a single
> user of Lyx (~50 in total) who wasn't computer savvy.  Why not just
> include a warning message that Lyx 2.3.0 may not function properly
> with MiKTeX distributions that have not been updated as recently as
> some specific date?

That is more or less what was proposed by most of the development team:
A warning at start-up, that LyX was going to update MikTeX, with an
option for the user to abort the install if they wish. The person
responsible for the Windows packages refused to include such a warning,
and we did not think updating people's other software without asking
permission to do so was something we should do. So that has left us in a
bad position.

We are working now to try to produce a Windows installer. Unfortunately,
none of the active development team use Windows, so it is taking longer
than it otherwise might. We'd certainly welcome help from someone who
does use Windows.

Riki





The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

2018-05-11 Thread Jim Rockford
My understanding from the Lyx developers forum is that the MiKTeX bugs that
were the main cause of the delayed release for Windows users has been
fixed.  The issue now seems to be how to communicate possible MiKTeeX
issues to users during the 2.3.0 installation process.

In my 20+ years in the world of science, I have not known a single user of
Lyx (~50 in total) who wasn't computer savvy.  Why not just include a
warning message that Lyx 2.3.0 may not function properly with MiKTeX
distributions that have not been updated as recently as some specific
date?  My opinion is that you're making far too big a deal of this.  I
don't think putting this minor bit of extra responsibility in the hands of
the users will go as badly as some have suggested.  If users ignore this
warning and find Lyx to be disfunctional as a result, well...too bad.
You'd have done your due diligence with a simple warning message.  If you
have another prompt asking users whether they'd like to update their MiKTeX
distribution, I think that'd be fine too.

I realize that there are unofficial binaries available.  Nonetheless,
2.30rc2 is working well enough for me on Windows 10. I'll await the
official release.

Jim


Re: Official LyX 2.3.0 Windows binaries

2018-05-11 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 03:52:41PM +, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 11/05/2018 à 17:44, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :
> > LyX 2.3.0 can open files that were saved with LyX 2.2.3, but LyX 2.2.3
> > cannot open files that were saved by LyX 2.2.3.
> 
> The last 2.2.3 should be 2.3.0, of course :)

Yes, thank you.

Scott


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Re: Official LyX 2.3.0 Windows binaries

2018-05-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 11/05/2018 à 17:44, Scott Kostyshak a écrit :

LyX 2.3.0 can open files that were saved with LyX 2.2.3, but LyX 2.2.3
cannot open files that were saved by LyX 2.2.3.


The last 2.2.3 should be 2.3.0, of course :)

Note that LyX 2.2.3 and 2.2.4 are completely compatible, but that 2.2.4 
can open files produced by 2.3.0 (with some loss if new features have 
been used, of course).


Re: Official LyX 2.3.0 Windows binaries

2018-05-11 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 12:24:41PM +, Matías wrote:
> To whom it may concern:

Dear Matias,

Thank you for your interest. 

> The LyX  2.2.4 and LyX 2.3.0 versions do not have Windows binaries. I would
> like to know if this structure is going to be continued in the following
> versions.

We are not happy with the current situation and our goal is to provide
official Windows binaries. Note that there are unofficial binaries
available that have been made by a LyX developer, that have been tested,
and that from what I've heard from users work well. The LyX 2.3.0
installers (both the bundle and the simple installer) need to
automatically update your MiKTeX installation to the newest MiKTeX
version (LyX 2.3.0 requires this on Windows). If you are fine with your
MiKTeX installation being automatically updated during the installation,
you could consider using these binaries, which have been posted by the
LyX developer here:

  http://ftp.lyx.de/LyXWinInstaller/LyX2.3.0/

> Furthermore, are both the LyX .2.2.3 and 2.3.0 compatible?

LyX 2.3.0 can open files that were saved with LyX 2.2.3, but LyX 2.2.3
cannot open files that were saved by LyX 2.2.3.

Best,

Scott


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Official LyX 2.3.0 Windows binaries

2018-05-11 Thread Matías
To whom it may concern:

The LyX  2.2.4 and LyX 2.3.0 versions do not have Windows binaries. I would
like to know if this structure is going to be continued in the following
versions. Furthermore, are both the LyX .2.2.3 and 2.3.0 compatible?
Thank you for your effort, please reply at your earliest convenience.

Matías


allowframebreaks

2018-05-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

when I use the option allowframebreaks
I lost the iterative display on the 2nd side, provided by
Overlay specification +-
in an itemized list

I cannot recover with onslide

Some ideas?

Thank

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