Re: Why a processing error under Windows but not Linux?
On 3/5/20 5:39 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: On 3/5/20 8:25 PM, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hi all, I have my students using LyX for their organic chemistry lab reports. I use a pretty standard installation at home under Debian, while most of them use Windows or Mac. One student in particular tried using an example file I posted for them, added material to it, then ran into problems when trying to view a pdf (or export, etc). I had him send me both the original file and his file. Both properly process for me. No one else has reported issues (yet) like this. If he generates a trivial file with a few words in it, no problem is encountered. The wording of the error message is the following: \chemgreek_drop_symbols: The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. Is it possible that his installation of TexLive is not complete? Or is there something else I'm oblivious to which would explain this? Maybe this: https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/249002/error-with-chemgreek. It's got to be a difference in the LaTeX packages. Riki I'll follow up with the student about this. Thank you for the idea! Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: PDF output wrong size
On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 18:56:43 + Paul Evans wrote: > I was struck by your observation that the memoir class ignores the > LyX page sizes. I have been using memoir as my base for most LyX > drafting and have happily used either the LyX defaults or minor > variations specified in the LyX settings eg on margins without any > apparent need to put anything in the preamble. Is this just because I > have simple needs (a4, standard margins)? If I needed a greater range > of sizes would I then find that the LyX settings were ignored? Paul, The problem is that standard LaTeX page definitions do not allow the precise layout design which is one of memoir's purposes, so the package does things differently. The default values are ones which are used very frequently, so new users of memoir often don't notice the difference. But when you want to move away from the default you have problems. That's how I found out that memoir does things differently. Les -- Les Denham -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Why a processing error under Windows but not Linux?
On 3/5/20 8:25 PM, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have my students using LyX for their organic chemistry lab reports. > I use a pretty standard installation at home under Debian, while most > of them use Windows or Mac. One student in particular tried using an > example file I posted for them, added material to it, then ran into > problems when trying to view a pdf (or export, etc). > > I had him send me both the original file and his file. Both properly > process for me. No one else has reported issues (yet) like this. If > he generates a trivial file with a few words in it, no problem is > encountered. > > The wording of the error message is the following: > > \chemgreek_drop_symbols: > > The control sequence at the end of the top line > > of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have > > misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct > > spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, > > and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. > > Is it possible that his installation of TexLive is not complete? Or > is there something else I'm oblivious to which would explain this? > Maybe this: https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/249002/error-with-chemgreek. It's got to be a difference in the LaTeX packages. Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Why a processing error under Windows but not Linux?
Hi all, I have my students using LyX for their organic chemistry lab reports. I use a pretty standard installation at home under Debian, while most of them use Windows or Mac. One student in particular tried using an example file I posted for them, added material to it, then ran into problems when trying to view a pdf (or export, etc). I had him send me both the original file and his file. Both properly process for me. No one else has reported issues (yet) like this. If he generates a trivial file with a few words in it, no problem is encountered. The wording of the error message is the following: \chemgreek_drop_symbols: The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. Is it possible that his installation of TexLive is not complete? Or is there something else I'm oblivious to which would explain this? What else is important for people to be able to problem-solve this? I'm certainly not a guru at this sort of thing. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: single quotes in xhtml output
Thank you for your reply. It never occurred to me that LyX would have
special key-strokes to obtain typographic inner quotes when it
automatically inserts typographic outer quotes without a special key-stroke.
Now that I know how it works, I can get the desired result.
Virgil
On 3/5/2020 4:20 PM, Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2020-02-29, Cuyahoga Falls wrote:
...
I often want to export to xhtml. However, when I do so, single quotation
marks and apostrophes (`) and (') do not get converted to curly
typographic quotes. Double quotes get converted just fine.
Which keys or key-combinations do you use to insert the quote signs?
By default, the »"«-key, inserts an "outer" „smart-quote inset“ which is
converted to a typographical quote according to the document language's
conventions (configurable in Document>Settings>Language).
The default binding for "inner" „smart quotes“ is Alt-". Alternatively, you
can use the Menu Insert>Special Character>Inner Quotation Mark.
The ` and ' keys, in contrast default to inserting ASCII GRAVE ACCENT
and APOSTROPHE respectively. Most LaTeX fonts show them in the shape of
typographical curly single quotes but most fonts used in web browsers show
them in the "neutral" shape.
Also, when exporting to html, all quotes are properly converted,
Probabely, the external converter implements a "smart quotes" feature.
but I prefer the single file output of xhtml.
I suppose with "xhtml" you mean the native "LyXHTML" export route?
There is no plan to add such a smartquotes feature to the LyXHTML export,
rather users should input typographical quotes either as literal characters
or "quote insets".
You may consider binding the '-key or the `-key to "quote-insert inner"
(with Tools>Preferences>Editing>Shortcuts),
use Alt-" or your systems keybindings for the literal curly quote Unicode
characters.
Günter
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Re: single quotes in xhtml output
On 2020-02-29, Cuyahoga Falls wrote:
...
> I often want to export to xhtml. However, when I do so, single quotation
> marks and apostrophes (`) and (') do not get converted to curly
> typographic quotes. Double quotes get converted just fine.
Which keys or key-combinations do you use to insert the quote signs?
By default, the »"«-key, inserts an "outer" „smart-quote inset“ which is
converted to a typographical quote according to the document language's
conventions (configurable in Document>Settings>Language).
The default binding for "inner" „smart quotes“ is Alt-". Alternatively, you
can use the Menu Insert>Special Character>Inner Quotation Mark.
The ` and ' keys, in contrast default to inserting ASCII GRAVE ACCENT
and APOSTROPHE respectively. Most LaTeX fonts show them in the shape of
typographical curly single quotes but most fonts used in web browsers show
them in the "neutral" shape.
> Also, when exporting to html, all quotes are properly converted,
Probabely, the external converter implements a "smart quotes" feature.
> but I prefer the single file output of xhtml.
I suppose with "xhtml" you mean the native "LyXHTML" export route?
There is no plan to add such a smartquotes feature to the LyXHTML export,
rather users should input typographical quotes either as literal characters
or "quote insets".
You may consider binding the '-key or the `-key to "quote-insert inner"
(with Tools>Preferences>Editing>Shortcuts),
use Alt-" or your systems keybindings for the literal curly quote Unicode
characters.
Günter
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Re: PDF output wrong size
> On 3 Mar 2020, at 21:30, Les wrote:
>
> On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 11:10:42 -0700
> Richard Opheim wrote:
>
>> Sorry about that. It's been a while since I posted.
>> I'm running LyX 2.3.4.3 on WIN10. The class is memoir. I specify that
>> the paper format should be 8 x 5, but the program doggedly outputs to
>> 8.5 x 11.
>
> The memoir class ignores LyX page sizes. You have to define them in
> the preamble.
>
> Here is what I have put in the preamble to solve a similar problem:
>
> \setstocksize{9in}{6in}
> \settrimmedsize{9in}{6in}{*}
> \settrims{0pt}{0pt}
> \settypeblocksize{7.7in}{4.5in}{*}
> \setulmarginsandblock{24mm}{20mm}{*}
> \setheaderspaces{0.625in}{*}{*}
> \setlrmargins{0.75in}{*}{*}
> \setlength{\marginparwidth}{0.0in}
> \setlength{\uppermargin}{0.7in} %Top margin including header
>
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Les
I was struck by your observation that the memoir class ignores the LyX page
sizes. I have been using memoir as my base for most LyX drafting and have
happily used either the LyX defaults or minor variations specified in the LyX
settings eg on margins without any apparent need to put anything in the
preamble. Is this just because I have simple needs (a4, standard margins)? If I
needed a greater range of sizes would I then find that the LyX settings were
ignored?
I have been using versions of LyX up to the most recent on Mac OSX, currently
Catalina.
Agree with you about the manual!
Regards
Paul
Paul Evans
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Re: PDF output wrong size
On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 09:53:36 -0800 (PST) Rich Shepard wrote: > There's a tool called pdfjam that allows a pdf document to be resized > to different paper sizes (among other tweaks.) I learned of it when > printed web pages were legal rather than letter size. Using pdfjam I > reformatted the documents to fit letter paper. Rich, Thanks for the information. I might have a use for pdfjam sometimes. The document I gave the example for is a memoir currently in the process of publication. When the "Books Manager" with the publisher talked about scraping my text from my 340 page PDF file, in order to reformat to follow their style, it set off all kinds of alarm bells when I thought of what they would do with over a hundred figures, a six page glossary, an 18 page index, and hundreds of cross-references. So I offered to prepare a final PDF to their detailed specifications. The trickiest part was getting the page headings exactly as they wanted them. This would not be possible with KOMA-script (which I have used extensively, and still do use a lot). I hope by doing it this way, the publisher will not only get it "right", but will get it on sale faster, and at lower cost. If the publisher's costs are lower, they can sell at a lower price, which will increase the number of sales and (hopefully) increase my royalties. Les -- Les Denham -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: PDF output wrong size
On Thu, 5 Mar 2020, Les wrote: Actually, /setstocksize alone does the trick. Les, I use the KOMA-Script classes, not memoir, but I offer information related to PDF page size that applies to existing PDF files, not generated ones in LyX. There's a tool called pdfjam that allows a pdf document to be resized to different paper sizes (among other tweaks.) I learned of it when printed web pages were legal rather than letter size. Using pdfjam I reformatted the documents to fit letter paper. Off topic but perhaps useful. Carpe weekend, Rich -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: PDF output wrong size
On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 13:09:03 -0700 Richard Opheim wrote: > Thank you. That works. > Actually, /setstocksize alone does the trick. Yes. The commands I listed set up the whole of the page layout. I really like memoir, but learning it has taken me years, and I still have to look things up in the manual (over 500 pages with a Fog Index around 13). -- Les Denham -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
