Re: LyX 2.3.5

2020-06-10 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck 
On 6/10/20 6:05 AM, Bernt Lie wrote:
>
> Hm… here is what I did:
>
>  1. I first installed MikTeX to the default path that it suggested,
> and used my private path for LyX. No success.
>  2. Next, I deleted LyX, and tried to re-install it to the default
> path. But the default path never showed up; no matter whether I
> deleted every file related to LyX, it still stuck to the original
> path that I had defined.
>  3. I then entered “regedit”. I deleted every mention of LyX in
> various forms from “regedit”.
>  4. Next, I tried to reinstall LyX. Now it suggested a default path. I
> installed LyX to this default path.
>  5. Now, it seems to work.
>
>  
>
> In summary: LyX doesn’t properly clean up the registry when I
> uninstall it.
>
Hopefully, this will be fixed in the new installer.

> Another observation…
>
>   * Before I deleted the registry elements and installed LyX to my
> private directory, installation of LyX took some one hour or
> something.
>   * After I deleted elements from “regedit”, the installation took a
> couple of minutes.
>
As someone else said, this is due to the downloading of packages by
MiKTeX, if you have it set to download packages automatically. Once
that's done, it doesn't have to be done again.

Riki



>  
>
> *From:*Kees Zeelenberg (kzStats) 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2020 11:12
> *To:* Bernt Lie ; parubi...@gmail.com;
> lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> *Subject:* RE: LyX 2.3.5
>
>  
>
> *Van:*lyx-users  > *Namens *Bernt Lie
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 10 juni 2020 09:58
> *Aan:* parubi...@gmail.com ;
> lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
> *Onderwerp:* RE: LyX 2.3.5
>
>  
>
> So… I have uninstalled both MikTeX and LyX, and try to re-install them.
>
>  
>
> With MikTeX, I do the following:
>
>  
>
>  1. Choose to install it under directory
> “C:\\Program_Files\MikTeX\MikTeX_2_9” instead of the default
> location (“…\AppData\Local\Programs\MikTeX 2.9\”)
>  2. Settings: Preferred paper size – A4, Install missing pagackages
> on-the-fly: Yes
>  3. After MikTeX has installed packages, I check for updates. There
> were 8 updates, which I installed from “A random package
> repository on the internet”.
>
>  
>
> Next, I install LyX 2.3.5:
>
>  4. I install LyX in directory “C:\Program_Files\LyX\LyX_2_3”
>  5. The LyX installer finds MikTeX at
> “C:\Program_Files\MikTeX\MikTeX_2_9\miktex\bin\x64”.
>
>  
>
>  6. LyX takes some time to install, and downloads some missing packages:
>
>  
>
>  7. When LyX has been installed, I try to open a template. Result:
>
>  
>
> I do a search for file IEEEtran.cls, and it is there:
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Questions:
>
>  1. Why doesn’t LyX find this file?
>  2. Is the problem that I have not chosen the default installation
> path of LyX and/or MikTeX?
>
>  
>
> [KZLG]
>
> I just had the same error earlier this morning. From my experience:
>
>  1. Probably because the filename database has not been updated. This
> may happen when you install MikTeX as an administrator (user who
> has administrative rights), but call LyX as that same user but
> without invoking his administrative rights; or if you have
> followed some variant of this.
> In general, it is best to install as an administrator but call
> your applications as an ordinary user (i.e. user without any
> administrative rights), and so keep a strict difference between
> the two types of users.
>  2. Perhaps. You might try it if you cannot follow the advice under A.
>
>  
>
> Kees
>
>

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RE: LyX 2.3.5

2020-06-10 Thread Bernt Lie 
Hm… here is what I did:

  1.  I first installed MikTeX to the default path that it suggested, and used 
my private path for LyX. No success.
  2.  Next, I deleted LyX, and tried to re-install it to the default path. But 
the default path never showed up; no matter whether I deleted every file 
related to LyX, it still stuck to the original path that I had defined.
  3.  I then entered “regedit”. I deleted every mention of LyX in various forms 
from “regedit”.
  4.  Next, I tried to reinstall LyX. Now it suggested a default path. I 
installed LyX to this default path.
  5.  Now, it seems to work.

In summary: LyX doesn’t properly clean up the registry when I uninstall it.

Another observation…

  *   Before I deleted the registry elements and installed LyX to my private 
directory, installation of LyX took some one hour or something.
  *   After I deleted elements from “regedit”, the installation took a couple 
of minutes.

-B

From: Kees Zeelenberg (kzStats) 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 11:12
To: Bernt Lie ; parubi...@gmail.com; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: LyX 2.3.5

Van: lyx-users 
mailto:lyx-users-boun...@lists.lyx.org>> 
Namens Bernt Lie
Verzonden: woensdag 10 juni 2020 09:58
Aan: parubi...@gmail.com; 
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Onderwerp: RE: LyX 2.3.5

So… I have uninstalled both MikTeX and LyX, and try to re-install them.

With MikTeX, I do the following:


  1.  Choose to install it under directory 
“C:\\Program_Files\MikTeX\MikTeX_2_9” instead of the default location 
(“…\AppData\Local\Programs\MikTeX 2.9\”)
  2.  Settings: Preferred paper size – A4, Install missing pagackages 
on-the-fly: Yes
  3.  After MikTeX has installed packages, I check for updates. There were 8 
updates, which I installed from “A random package repository on the internet”.

Next, I install LyX 2.3.5:

  1.  I install LyX in directory “C:\Program_Files\LyX\LyX_2_3”
  2.  The LyX installer finds MikTeX at 
“C:\Program_Files\MikTeX\MikTeX_2_9\miktex\bin\x64”.



  1.  LyX takes some time to install, and downloads some missing packages:



[cid:image001.png@01D63F1F.6D978170]

  1.  When LyX has been installed, I try to open a template. Result:

[cid:image002.png@01D63F1F.6D978170]

I do a search for file IEEEtran.cls, and it is there:
[cid:image003.png@01D63F1F.6D978170]


Questions:

  1.  Why doesn’t LyX find this file?
  2.  Is the problem that I have not chosen the default installation path of 
LyX and/or MikTeX?

[KZLG]
I just had the same error earlier this morning. From my experience:

  1.  Probably because the filename database has not been updated. This may 
happen when you install MikTeX as an administrator (user who has administrative 
rights), but call LyX as that same user but without invoking his administrative 
rights; or if you have followed some variant of this.
In general, it is best to install as an administrator but call your 
applications as an ordinary user (i.e. user without any administrative rights), 
and so keep a strict difference between the two types of users.
  2.  Perhaps. You might try it if you cannot follow the advice under A.

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RE: LyX 2.3.5

2020-06-10 Thread Bernt Lie 
Hm… your advice under point A:…

  *   Use a different adm name from my standard user name when I install 
programs?

From: Kees Zeelenberg (kzStats) 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 11:12
To: Bernt Lie ; parubi...@gmail.com; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: LyX 2.3.5

Van: lyx-users 
mailto:lyx-users-boun...@lists.lyx.org>> 
Namens Bernt Lie
Verzonden: woensdag 10 juni 2020 09:58
Aan: parubi...@gmail.com; 
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Onderwerp: RE: LyX 2.3.5

So… I have uninstalled both MikTeX and LyX, and try to re-install them.

With MikTeX, I do the following:


  1.  Choose to install it under directory 
“C:\\Program_Files\MikTeX\MikTeX_2_9” instead of the default location 
(“…\AppData\Local\Programs\MikTeX 2.9\”)
  2.  Settings: Preferred paper size – A4, Install missing pagackages 
on-the-fly: Yes
  3.  After MikTeX has installed packages, I check for updates. There were 8 
updates, which I installed from “A random package repository on the internet”.

Next, I install LyX 2.3.5:

  1.  I install LyX in directory “C:\Program_Files\LyX\LyX_2_3”
  2.  The LyX installer finds MikTeX at 
“C:\Program_Files\MikTeX\MikTeX_2_9\miktex\bin\x64”.



  1.  LyX takes some time to install, and downloads some missing packages:



[cid:image001.png@01D63F19.144CFB50]

  1.  When LyX has been installed, I try to open a template. Result:

[cid:image002.png@01D63F19.144CFB50]

I do a search for file IEEEtran.cls, and it is there:
[cid:image003.png@01D63F19.144CFB50]


Questions:

  1.  Why doesn’t LyX find this file?
  2.  Is the problem that I have not chosen the default installation path of 
LyX and/or MikTeX?

[KZLG]
I just had the same error earlier this morning. From my experience:

  1.  Probably because the filename database has not been updated. This may 
happen when you install MikTeX as an administrator (user who has administrative 
rights), but call LyX as that same user but without invoking his administrative 
rights; or if you have followed some variant of this.
In general, it is best to install as an administrator but call your 
applications as an ordinary user (i.e. user without any administrative rights), 
and so keep a strict difference between the two types of users.
  2.  Perhaps. You might try it if you cannot follow the advice under A.

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Re: LyX 2.3.5

2020-06-10 Thread Kees Zeelenberg 

Op 10-06-2020 om 11:20 schreef Bernt Lie:


Hm… your advice under point A:…

  * Use a different adm name from my standard user name when I install
programs?

Yes: login under your standard name (ordinary user), and Windows will 
ask for an administrator password when you try to install.
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RE: LyX 2.3.5

2020-06-10 Thread Bernt Lie 
So… I have uninstalled both MikTeX and LyX, and try to re-install them.

With MikTeX, I do the following:


  1.  Choose to install it under directory 
“C:\\Program_Files\MikTeX\MikTeX_2_9” instead of the default location 
(“…\AppData\Local\Programs\MikTeX 2.9\”)
  2.  Settings: Preferred paper size – A4, Install missing pagackages 
on-the-fly: Yes
  3.  After MikTeX has installed packages, I check for updates. There were 8 
updates, which I installed from “A random package repository on the internet”.

Next, I install LyX 2.3.5:

  1.  I install LyX in directory “C:\Program_Files\LyX\LyX_2_3”
  2.  The LyX installer finds MikTeX at 
“C:\Program_Files\MikTeX\MikTeX_2_9\miktex\bin\x64”.



  1.  LyX takes some time to install, and downloads some missing packages:



[cid:image002.png@01D63F08.59DF8F40]

  1.  When LyX has been installed, I try to open a template. Result:

[cid:image003.png@01D63F0C.2F248BD0]

I do a search for file IEEEtran.cls, and it is there:
[cid:image004.png@01D63F0D.8FA7C570]


Questions:

  1.  Why doesn’t LyX find this file?
  2.  Is the problem that I have not chosen the default installation path of 
LyX and/or MikTeX?

BR,
-B

From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Paul A. Rubin
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 5:50 PM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: LyX 2.3.5

On 6/9/20 11:15 AM, Bernt Lie wrote:

I installed LyX 2.3.5 a couple of days ago (?), and it worked fine. (Windows 10 
64bit, latest version.)



Today, one of my students tried to install some template for LyX 2.3.5, and 
messed around with MikTeX. But in the end that didn't work. So in the end, I 
uninstalled MikTeX, Inkscape, and LyX, and re-installed the programs.



Now I get this error message:

[cid:image001.png@01D63F01.641F5320]»



When I try to open a template.



  *   What has gone wrong? Why is “extarticle.cls” missing?
  *   How can I fix it?



-B


Oops! I inadvertently replied to Bernt offline, suggesting that the extsizes 
package had not been installed. Pasting in his reply:


did nothing special to include specific packages a couple of days ago, and 
nothing special today.
It's been quite a while since I used MikTeX, but I vaguely recall that 
installation options included a modest size package with common classes and 
something of an omnibus installation with all sorts of packages (and a large 
footprint). Bernt, is it possible that you did a full installation in the case 
that the document class was available and a smaller installation in the case 
where it was not?

I'm assuming here that basic classes (such as article.cls) remain available 
even when extarticle.cls does not.

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RE: LyX 2.3.5

2020-06-10 Thread Kees Zeelenberg (kzStats) 
Van: lyx-users  Namens Bernt Lie
Verzonden: woensdag 10 juni 2020 09:58
Aan: parubi...@gmail.com; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Onderwerp: RE: LyX 2.3.5

 

So… I have uninstalled both MikTeX and LyX, and try to re-install them.

 

With MikTeX, I do the following:

 

1.  Choose to install it under directory 
“C:\\Program_Files\MikTeX\MikTeX_2_9” instead of the default location 
(“…\AppData\Local\Programs\MikTeX 2.9\”)
2.  Settings: Preferred paper size – A4, Install missing pagackages 
on-the-fly: Yes
3.  After MikTeX has installed packages, I check for updates. There were 8 
updates, which I installed from “A random package repository on the internet”. 

 

Next, I install LyX 2.3.5:

4.  I install LyX in directory “C:\Program_Files\LyX\LyX_2_3”
5.  The LyX installer finds MikTeX at 
“C:\Program_Files\MikTeX\MikTeX_2_9\miktex\bin\x64”. 

 

6.  LyX takes some time to install, and downloads some missing packages:

 



7.  When LyX has been installed, I try to open a template. Result:



 

I do a search for file IEEEtran.cls, and it is there:



 

 

Questions:

A.  Why doesn’t LyX find this file?
B.  Is the problem that I have not chosen the default installation path of 
LyX and/or MikTeX?

 

[KZLG] 

I just had the same error earlier this morning. From my experience:

A.  Probably because the filename database has not been updated. This may 
happen when you install MikTeX as an administrator (user who has administrative 
rights), but call LyX as that same user but without invoking his administrative 
rights; or if you have followed some variant of this.
In general, it is best to install as an administrator but call your 
applications as an ordinary user (i.e. user without any administrative rights), 
and so keep a strict difference between the two types of users.
B.  Perhaps. You might try it if you cannot follow the advice under A.

 

Kees

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