Re: Formatting numbered equations
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 01:57:13PM +, Paul Rubin wrote: AFAIK A, B and C is the predominant usage in the U.S. (where, given the state of our educational system, we're lucky if we get the first comma). That's what I was taught (in New York) (after the American Revolution). Can't speak for the Brits, but perhaps they use the second comma. They certainly seem fond of extra vowels. My Gowers edition of Fowler discusses this. Fowler seems to think that the main point is to avoid ambiguity, so that you normally punctuate A, B and C, but need a comma in some cases. The text concedes, however, that some people prefer to put the comma every time, for consistency, since it's sometimes needed to avoid ambiguity. This appears to be left as a matter of taste. (The reason not to do it, of course, is that in an enumeration the comma really stands for and, so to add a comma before the and would be otiose.) Examples of ambiguity (again from Fowler): Tenders were submitted by John Brown, Cammel Laird, Vickers, and Harland and Wolff. Without the comma after Vickers, you wouldn't know that the last firm to submit was Harland and Wolff. The smooth grey of the beech stem, the silky texture of the birch, and the rugged pine. Here, without the comma after birch, it would read as though both the birch and the rugged pine have a silky texture. If you think that the ambiguous cases like those above are common enough, and you want a consistent rule, then you should put the comma after B. Otherwise, you should only use the comma when you actually need it (and A, B and C would be the right way in that case). Isn't it nice to have rules that start with it depends? A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 06:06:57PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: These are contrived examples. I'm pretty sure that all the examples in Fowler are not contrived examples: they're real ones from real texts. And it's not as though Fowler wasn't pretty keen on clarity and elegance in prose. In every case the writer could reword the sentence to remove the ambiguity, as I demonstrated in an earlier post. Sure, you can always rewrite a sentence in a way less idiomatic in order to avoid the problem. Alternatively, you could do the sensible thing and use a comma to avoid ambiguity in an otherwise perfectly normal English idiom. Enumerations are ubiquitous, and it's not unusual for items to be enumerated already to have embedded conjunctions. The problem is not the commas, the problem is the desire to find ambiguity and then to place blame. I don't see who it is that's supposed to be placing blame here. A similar example for capitalization: No, these are not similar to the obviously common case of having conjunctions in the names of firms, in the way we refer to couples, and so on. Jack and Jill can refer to two individuals or to the couple Jack and Jill; while context sometimes makes the intent plain, in an enumeration with other conjunctions it might not be. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 01:57:13PM +, Paul Rubin wrote: AFAIK A, B and C is the predominant usage in the U.S. (where, given the state of our educational system, we're lucky if we get the first comma). That's what I was taught (in New York) (after the American Revolution). Can't speak for the Brits, but perhaps they use the second comma. They certainly seem fond of extra vowels. My Gowers edition of Fowler discusses this. Fowler seems to think that the main point is to avoid ambiguity, so that you normally punctuate A, B and C, but need a comma in some cases. The text concedes, however, that some people prefer to put the comma every time, for consistency, since it's sometimes needed to avoid ambiguity. This appears to be left as a matter of taste. (The reason not to do it, of course, is that in an enumeration the comma really stands for and, so to add a comma before the and would be otiose.) Examples of ambiguity (again from Fowler): Tenders were submitted by John Brown, Cammel Laird, Vickers, and Harland and Wolff. Without the comma after Vickers, you wouldn't know that the last firm to submit was Harland and Wolff. The smooth grey of the beech stem, the silky texture of the birch, and the rugged pine. Here, without the comma after birch, it would read as though both the birch and the rugged pine have a silky texture. If you think that the ambiguous cases like those above are common enough, and you want a consistent rule, then you should put the comma after B. Otherwise, you should only use the comma when you actually need it (and A, B and C would be the right way in that case). Isn't it nice to have rules that start with it depends? A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 06:06:57PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: These are contrived examples. I'm pretty sure that all the examples in Fowler are not contrived examples: they're real ones from real texts. And it's not as though Fowler wasn't pretty keen on clarity and elegance in prose. In every case the writer could reword the sentence to remove the ambiguity, as I demonstrated in an earlier post. Sure, you can always rewrite a sentence in a way less idiomatic in order to avoid the problem. Alternatively, you could do the sensible thing and use a comma to avoid ambiguity in an otherwise perfectly normal English idiom. Enumerations are ubiquitous, and it's not unusual for items to be enumerated already to have embedded conjunctions. The problem is not the commas, the problem is the desire to find ambiguity and then to place blame. I don't see who it is that's supposed to be placing blame here. A similar example for capitalization: No, these are not similar to the obviously common case of having conjunctions in the names of firms, in the way we refer to couples, and so on. Jack and Jill can refer to two individuals or to the couple Jack and Jill; while context sometimes makes the intent plain, in an enumeration with other conjunctions it might not be. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 01:57:13PM +, Paul Rubin wrote: > AFAIK "A, B and C" is the predominant usage in the U.S. (where, given the > state > of our educational system, we're lucky if we get the first comma). That's > what I > was taught (in New York) (after the American Revolution). Can't speak for the > Brits, but perhaps they use the second comma. They certainly seem fond of > extra > vowels. My Gowers edition of Fowler discusses this. Fowler seems to think that the main point is to avoid ambiguity, so that you normally punctuate "A, B and C", but need a comma in some cases. The text concedes, however, that some people prefer to put the comma every time, for consistency, since it's sometimes needed to avoid ambiguity. This appears to be left as a matter of taste. (The reason not to do it, of course, is that in an enumeration the comma really stands for "and", so to add a comma before the "and" would be otiose.) Examples of ambiguity (again from Fowler): "Tenders were submitted by John Brown, Cammel Laird, Vickers, and Harland and Wolff." Without the comma after Vickers, you wouldn't know that the last firm to submit was "Harland and Wolff". "The smooth grey of the beech stem, the silky texture of the birch, and the rugged pine." Here, without the comma after birch, it would read as though both the birch and the rugged pine have a silky texture. If you think that the ambiguous cases like those above are common enough, and you want a consistent rule, then you should put the comma after B. Otherwise, you should only use the comma when you actually need it (and A, B and C would be the right way in that case). Isn't it nice to have rules that start with "it depends"? A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Formatting numbered equations
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 06:06:57PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > These are contrived examples. I'm pretty sure that all the examples in Fowler are not contrived examples: they're real ones from real texts. And it's not as though Fowler wasn't pretty keen on clarity and elegance in prose. > In every case the writer could reword > the sentence to remove the ambiguity, as I demonstrated in an earlier > post. Sure, you can always rewrite a sentence in a way less idiomatic in order to avoid the problem. Alternatively, you could do the sensible thing and use a comma to avoid ambiguity in an otherwise perfectly normal English idiom. Enumerations are ubiquitous, and it's not unusual for items to be enumerated already to have embedded conjunctions. > The problem is not the commas, the problem is the desire to find > ambiguity and then to place blame. I don't see who it is that's supposed to be placing blame here. > A similar example for capitalization: No, these are not similar to the obviously common case of having conjunctions in the names of firms, in the way we refer to couples, and so on. "Jack and Jill" can refer to two individuals or to the couple "Jack and Jill"; while context sometimes makes the intent plain, in an enumeration with other conjunctions it might not be. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: OpenDocument export [was Re: too long]
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:45:13AM -0500, Ethan Metsger wrote: I can confirm this works out of the box on Ubuntu Karmic. Whether it works on more complicated documents, I don't know. The latter is the biggest problem. Cross-references, in particular, are much worse in every other format compared to LaTeX, because they're not structured the same way. So if you use that a lot, AFAICT, you're hosed. I never managed to get it to work on MacOS, so I have a VM that runs a Debian (ancestor of Ubuntu) system just for doing this. It's not hard. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: OpenDocument export [was Re: too long]
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:45:13AM -0500, Ethan Metsger wrote: I can confirm this works out of the box on Ubuntu Karmic. Whether it works on more complicated documents, I don't know. The latter is the biggest problem. Cross-references, in particular, are much worse in every other format compared to LaTeX, because they're not structured the same way. So if you use that a lot, AFAICT, you're hosed. I never managed to get it to work on MacOS, so I have a VM that runs a Debian (ancestor of Ubuntu) system just for doing this. It's not hard. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: OpenDocument export [was Re: too long]
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:45:13AM -0500, Ethan Metsger wrote: > I can confirm this works out of the box on Ubuntu Karmic. Whether it > works on more complicated documents, I don't know. The latter is the biggest problem. Cross-references, in particular, are much worse in every other format compared to LaTeX, because they're not structured the same way. So if you use that a lot, AFAICT, you're hosed. I never managed to get it to work on MacOS, so I have a VM that runs a Debian (ancestor of Ubuntu) system just for doing this. It's not hard. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Fwd: ezmlm warning
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:16:21PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: I'm here, I haven't changed a thing, as far as I know I should still be on the list. I'm sl...@troubleshooters.com. If anyone knows how to fix this, please do it. The last time this happened to me it took a month to reach the person capable of fixing it. Your domain's administrator has an SPF record in the zone. I bet it has something to do with that. It appears to have something to do with how you're validating, because it's complaining about an unroutable mail domain. My bet is that the application of SPF rules at your side is the problem. Talk to your mail admin? A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Fwd: ezmlm warning
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:16:21PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: I'm here, I haven't changed a thing, as far as I know I should still be on the list. I'm sl...@troubleshooters.com. If anyone knows how to fix this, please do it. The last time this happened to me it took a month to reach the person capable of fixing it. Your domain's administrator has an SPF record in the zone. I bet it has something to do with that. It appears to have something to do with how you're validating, because it's complaining about an unroutable mail domain. My bet is that the application of SPF rules at your side is the problem. Talk to your mail admin? A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Fwd: ezmlm warning
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:16:21PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > I'm here, I haven't changed a thing, as far as I know I should still be on > the > list. I'm sl...@troubleshooters.com. > > If anyone knows how to fix this, please do it. The last time this happened to > me it took a month to reach the person capable of fixing it. Your domain's administrator has an SPF record in the zone. I bet it has something to do with that. It appears to have something to do with how you're validating, because it's complaining about an unroutable mail domain. My bet is that the application of SPF rules at your side is the problem. Talk to your mail admin? A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Fun With LyX Document Converters
On 2009-11-05, at 16:32, Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us wrote: Thank you Alan, That fixed the problem. I hadn't realized that the Java run time was a dependency of oolatex. Export from LyX to OpenDocument now works. From there, it's an easy conversion to Word. One issue with export to oolatex in my experience is the loss of cross references. If you've found this works, please let us know, because it's a major blocker for my use. (Happily, where I work, circulating PDFs is ok. But not most places.) -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com
Re: Fun With LyX Document Converters
On 2009-11-05, at 16:32, Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us wrote: Thank you Alan, That fixed the problem. I hadn't realized that the Java run time was a dependency of oolatex. Export from LyX to OpenDocument now works. From there, it's an easy conversion to Word. One issue with export to oolatex in my experience is the loss of cross references. If you've found this works, please let us know, because it's a major blocker for my use. (Happily, where I work, circulating PDFs is ok. But not most places.) -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com
Re: Fun With LyX Document Converters
On 2009-11-05, at 16:32, Rob Oakes <lyx-de...@oak-tree.us> wrote: Thank you Alan, That fixed the problem. I hadn't realized that the Java run time was a dependency of oolatex. Export from LyX to OpenDocument now works. From there, it's an easy conversion to Word. One issue with export to oolatex in my experience is the loss of cross references. If you've found this works, please let us know, because it's a major blocker for my use. (Happily, where I work, circulating PDFs is ok. But not most places.) -- Andrew Sullivan <a...@shinkuro.com>
Re: Header print suppression
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 12:41:06PM +0100, Jes Andersen wrote: at the beginning of every lyx document there is a: #LyX 1.6.2 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/; is there an option anywhere to skip this? The reason is when using version control systems and users with different versions of lyx, just opening and saving changes the file, which is quite annoying. You could suppress it with a filter inbound to your VCS. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Professional and Scientific Writing Book
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 06:14:30PM +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: But have a look at wiki.lyx.org, you find there many useful information around LyX and also some HowTo. Dealing with Word is a very common question on list, and in professional and academic circumstances discussing it -- at exhaustive length, since all of the options are well less than perfect -- would likely be very helpful. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Header print suppression
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 12:41:06PM +0100, Jes Andersen wrote: at the beginning of every lyx document there is a: #LyX 1.6.2 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/; is there an option anywhere to skip this? The reason is when using version control systems and users with different versions of lyx, just opening and saving changes the file, which is quite annoying. You could suppress it with a filter inbound to your VCS. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Professional and Scientific Writing Book
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 06:14:30PM +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: But have a look at wiki.lyx.org, you find there many useful information around LyX and also some HowTo. Dealing with Word is a very common question on list, and in professional and academic circumstances discussing it -- at exhaustive length, since all of the options are well less than perfect -- would likely be very helpful. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Header print suppression
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 12:41:06PM +0100, Jes Andersen wrote: > at the beginning of every lyx document there is a: > "#LyX 1.6.2 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/; > is there an option anywhere to skip this? > > The reason is when using version control systems and users with > different versions of lyx, just opening and saving changes the file, > which is quite annoying. You could suppress it with a filter inbound to your VCS. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Professional and Scientific Writing Book
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 06:14:30PM +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > But have a look at wiki.lyx.org, you find there many useful information around LyX and also some HowTo. Dealing with Word is a very common question on list, and in professional and academic circumstances discussing it -- at exhaustive length, since all of the options are well less than perfect -- would likely be very helpful. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Converting to doc format
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:55:10AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: I'm thinking of publishing in ebook form via Smashwords, who unfortunately demand Word format. I'm on Linux and as far as I can see after a fair amount of googling the only practical way of doing this is to produce a plain text (txt) version from Lyx, import it into the Openoffice WP, and save it as a .doc file from there. Does anyone know a better way? I have managed to export directly from LyX to OOo. It's far from perfect (cross-references don't work), but it's better than plain text. The Wiki was helpful to me in how to do this. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Converting to doc format
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 09:28:54AM -0400, rgheck wrote: As you see, YMMV, but most people on Linux seem to have pretty good luck with oolatex. It's on other platforms that this seems not to be reliable. Yeah, I should have mentioned that I never managed to get it to work on my Mac. I haven't tried it on FreeBSD, either. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Converting to doc format
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 06:50:56PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: Thanks to all for replies. I went to the Wiki as suggested and found how to export files as rtf, which should be loadable into Openoffice - excellent! I'll make a start on the conversion soon. This wasn't actually what I had in mind -- if you have the latest and greatest LaTeX under the hood, there actually should be an option to export OpenOffice.org files. Then you can open that up and, if need be, save it as a Word doc. One fewer conversion step. Strictly speaking, BTW, RTF files _are_ Word files: RTF is officially the non-binary form of Word files (up until the recent XML-based format, which is completely different). This principle was, I understand, honoured more in the breach. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Converting to doc format
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:55:10AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: I'm thinking of publishing in ebook form via Smashwords, who unfortunately demand Word format. I'm on Linux and as far as I can see after a fair amount of googling the only practical way of doing this is to produce a plain text (txt) version from Lyx, import it into the Openoffice WP, and save it as a .doc file from there. Does anyone know a better way? I have managed to export directly from LyX to OOo. It's far from perfect (cross-references don't work), but it's better than plain text. The Wiki was helpful to me in how to do this. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Converting to doc format
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 09:28:54AM -0400, rgheck wrote: As you see, YMMV, but most people on Linux seem to have pretty good luck with oolatex. It's on other platforms that this seems not to be reliable. Yeah, I should have mentioned that I never managed to get it to work on my Mac. I haven't tried it on FreeBSD, either. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Converting to doc format
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 06:50:56PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: Thanks to all for replies. I went to the Wiki as suggested and found how to export files as rtf, which should be loadable into Openoffice - excellent! I'll make a start on the conversion soon. This wasn't actually what I had in mind -- if you have the latest and greatest LaTeX under the hood, there actually should be an option to export OpenOffice.org files. Then you can open that up and, if need be, save it as a Word doc. One fewer conversion step. Strictly speaking, BTW, RTF files _are_ Word files: RTF is officially the non-binary form of Word files (up until the recent XML-based format, which is completely different). This principle was, I understand, honoured more in the breach. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Converting to doc format
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:55:10AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > I'm thinking of publishing in ebook form via Smashwords, who > unfortunately demand Word format. I'm on Linux and as far as I can see > after a fair amount of googling the only practical way of doing this is > to produce a plain text (txt) version from Lyx, import it into the > Openoffice WP, and save it as a .doc file from there. > > Does anyone know a better way? I have managed to export directly from LyX to OOo. It's far from perfect (cross-references don't work), but it's better than plain text. The Wiki was helpful to me in how to do this. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Converting to doc format
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 09:28:54AM -0400, rgheck wrote: > As you see, YMMV, but most people on Linux seem to have pretty good luck > with oolatex. It's on other platforms that this seems not to be > reliable. Yeah, I should have mentioned that I never managed to get it to work on my Mac. I haven't tried it on FreeBSD, either. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Converting to doc format
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 06:50:56PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > Thanks to all for replies. I went to the Wiki as suggested and found how > to export files as rtf, which should be loadable into Openoffice > - excellent! I'll make a start on the conversion soon. This wasn't actually what I had in mind -- if you have the latest and greatest LaTeX under the hood, there actually should be an option to export OpenOffice.org files. Then you can open that up and, if need be, save it as a Word doc. One fewer conversion step. Strictly speaking, BTW, RTF files _are_ Word files: RTF is officially the non-binary "form" of Word files (up until the recent XML-based format, which is completely different). This principle was, I understand, honoured more in the breach. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: (newbie) Scripting, MSword and Lyx
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:13:30PM -0400, Simon wrote: I need a programmer-friendly way to output good looking documents compatible with current MS word. The only way I've been able to get LyX or LaTeX documents into native Word format is to go by way of OpenOffice.org, and there are a bunch of missing features that way (most irritating to me is that so far in my experience, cross-references are always lost). I don't think LyX is the right tool for your job if you really want native Word format. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: (newbie) Scripting, MSword and Lyx
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:13:30PM -0400, Simon wrote: I need a programmer-friendly way to output good looking documents compatible with current MS word. The only way I've been able to get LyX or LaTeX documents into native Word format is to go by way of OpenOffice.org, and there are a bunch of missing features that way (most irritating to me is that so far in my experience, cross-references are always lost). I don't think LyX is the right tool for your job if you really want native Word format. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: (newbie) Scripting, MSword and Lyx
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:13:30PM -0400, Simon wrote: > I need a programmer-friendly way to output good looking documents > compatible with current MS word. The only way I've been able to get LyX or LaTeX documents into native Word format is to go by way of OpenOffice.org, and there are a bunch of missing features that way (most irritating to me is that so far in my experience, cross-references are always lost). I don't think LyX is the right tool for your job if you really want native Word format. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Lyx and Ubuntu Hardy
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:35:15PM -0400, Myriam Abramson wrote: I tried to add a mirror to sources.list but I got this error: W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B That's a secure-apt problem. There's a wiki on the debian site that explains how you deal with this. One thing you're allowed to do is just accept unsigned packages, although there are probably better alternatives. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Lyx and Ubuntu Hardy
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:35:15PM -0400, Myriam Abramson wrote: I tried to add a mirror to sources.list but I got this error: W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B That's a secure-apt problem. There's a wiki on the debian site that explains how you deal with this. One thing you're allowed to do is just accept unsigned packages, although there are probably better alternatives. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Lyx and Ubuntu Hardy
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:35:15PM -0400, Myriam Abramson wrote: > > I tried to add a mirror to sources.list but I got this error: > > W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures > couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY > 9AA38DCD55BE302B > That's a secure-apt problem. There's a wiki on the debian site that explains how you deal with this. One thing you're allowed to do is just accept unsigned packages, although there are probably better alternatives. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
How many are left handed (was: How Many use linux)
You can see from the subject that there is an air of irrelevance about this. But it seems to me that knowing how many are left handed would, naturally, lead to enhancements targetted at the left-hand community. I answer that the customizability and portability of the LyX code base is sufficient that a typing-able user on any modern desktop-target platform is in a position to use LyX, and figuring out even rough numbers for distribution on supported platforms is a distraction to the LyX community. This is true even if the user is left handed, or non-Linux using, or whatever. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
How many are left handed (was: How Many use linux)
You can see from the subject that there is an air of irrelevance about this. But it seems to me that knowing how many are left handed would, naturally, lead to enhancements targetted at the left-hand community. I answer that the customizability and portability of the LyX code base is sufficient that a typing-able user on any modern desktop-target platform is in a position to use LyX, and figuring out even rough numbers for distribution on supported platforms is a distraction to the LyX community. This is true even if the user is left handed, or non-Linux using, or whatever. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
How many are left handed (was: How Many use linux)
You can see from the subject that there is an air of irrelevance about this. But it seems to me that knowing how many are left handed would, naturally, lead to enhancements targetted at the left-hand community. I answer that the customizability and portability of the LyX code base is sufficient that a typing-able user on any modern desktop-target platform is in a position to use LyX, and figuring out even rough numbers for distribution on supported platforms is a distraction to the LyX community. This is true even if the user is left handed, or non-Linux using, or whatever. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: How many use Linux: was[LyX] explicit mail subject
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:42:22AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: assumption. Does anyone know the percentages of LyX users on: Given that it is free software and therefore nearly impossible to know what the user community size is, knowing the relative sizes of segments of the population seems to be a little ambitious. -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: How many use Linux: was[LyX] explicit mail subject
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:42:22AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: assumption. Does anyone know the percentages of LyX users on: Given that it is free software and therefore nearly impossible to know what the user community size is, knowing the relative sizes of segments of the population seems to be a little ambitious. -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: How many use Linux: was[LyX] explicit mail subject
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:42:22AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > assumption. Does anyone know the percentages of LyX users on: Given that it is free software and therefore nearly impossible to know what the user community size is, knowing the relative sizes of segments of the population seems to be a little ambitious. -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: [Lyx] explicit mail subject
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 08:11:26AM +, Delta moins wrote: that tell people this comes from the Lyx users list. It's very messing because you cannot filter the mails efficiently. Yes, you can. This is what List-*: headers are for. This very topic came up not a month ago on this list. Almost every mail list in the world now uses the List-*: headers, which were standardised by the IETF exactly so that list management could be easier and more automated. In the unlikely event you want more details, please see RFC 2919, http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2919.txt. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Re : [Lyx] explicit mail subject
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 11:38:02AM +0100, Sam Liddicott wrote: The Delivered-To: header is not the same as the list-id header - I'm more interested in how the message reached me (via the list or not), Delivered-To: signifies something else, and my mail server does not support it. http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2919.html In another message, I referred to that, and I think I'd incorrectly believed there's a List-Id header on this list. You're right that there isn't. But you can cheat. The list _does_ provide RFC2369 headers, and they're just as good for this purpose. Evidently that's what I'm doing, since this all sorts nicely for me. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: [Lyx] explicit mail subject
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 10:44:00AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: I agree with you and have been saying so for years. But even the Mailman software suggest replies go to the individual instead of the list. So much for collaboration. Mailman might be relying on the faint hope that mail user agents actually used the List-Post header for a reply-to-list function. Mailman doesn't prevent that. What mailman is suggesting is that you not set the Reply-To header to the list. The reason for that is because if list participants have already set the Reply-To, a new Reply-To set by the list overwrites the original mailer's Reply-To, and information is thereby lost. My mail user agent (mutt) binds the l key to reply-to-list, so that when I want to reply just to the list, as in this case, I can. Part of the reason I continue to use mutt on my Mac, despite some inconveniences I've experienced under OS X 10.5, is this list-reply feature, which I find very helpful (and which Apple Mail doesn't provide). I suspect we're well off-topic for this list now, however, so I'll shut up. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: [Lyx] explicit mail subject
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 08:11:26AM +, Delta moins wrote: that tell people this comes from the Lyx users list. It's very messing because you cannot filter the mails efficiently. Yes, you can. This is what List-*: headers are for. This very topic came up not a month ago on this list. Almost every mail list in the world now uses the List-*: headers, which were standardised by the IETF exactly so that list management could be easier and more automated. In the unlikely event you want more details, please see RFC 2919, http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2919.txt. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Re : [Lyx] explicit mail subject
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 11:38:02AM +0100, Sam Liddicott wrote: The Delivered-To: header is not the same as the list-id header - I'm more interested in how the message reached me (via the list or not), Delivered-To: signifies something else, and my mail server does not support it. http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2919.html In another message, I referred to that, and I think I'd incorrectly believed there's a List-Id header on this list. You're right that there isn't. But you can cheat. The list _does_ provide RFC2369 headers, and they're just as good for this purpose. Evidently that's what I'm doing, since this all sorts nicely for me. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: [Lyx] explicit mail subject
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 10:44:00AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: I agree with you and have been saying so for years. But even the Mailman software suggest replies go to the individual instead of the list. So much for collaboration. Mailman might be relying on the faint hope that mail user agents actually used the List-Post header for a reply-to-list function. Mailman doesn't prevent that. What mailman is suggesting is that you not set the Reply-To header to the list. The reason for that is because if list participants have already set the Reply-To, a new Reply-To set by the list overwrites the original mailer's Reply-To, and information is thereby lost. My mail user agent (mutt) binds the l key to reply-to-list, so that when I want to reply just to the list, as in this case, I can. Part of the reason I continue to use mutt on my Mac, despite some inconveniences I've experienced under OS X 10.5, is this list-reply feature, which I find very helpful (and which Apple Mail doesn't provide). I suspect we're well off-topic for this list now, however, so I'll shut up. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: [Lyx] explicit mail subject
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 08:11:26AM +, Delta moins wrote: > that tell people "this comes from the Lyx users list". It's very > messing because you cannot filter the mails efficiently. Yes, you can. This is what List-*: headers are for. This very topic came up not a month ago on this list. Almost every mail list in the world now uses the List-*: headers, which were standardised by the IETF exactly so that list management could be easier and more automated. In the unlikely event you want more details, please see RFC 2919, <http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2919.txt>. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Re : [Lyx] explicit mail subject
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 11:38:02AM +0100, Sam Liddicott wrote: > The Delivered-To: header is not the same as the list-id header - I'm > more interested in how the message reached me (via the list or not), > Delivered-To: signifies something else, and my mail server does not > support it. > > http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2919.html In another message, I referred to that, and I think I'd incorrectly believed there's a List-Id header on this list. You're right that there isn't. But you can cheat. The list _does_ provide RFC2369 headers, and they're just as good for this purpose. Evidently that's what I'm doing, since this all sorts nicely for me. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: [Lyx] explicit mail subject
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 10:44:00AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > I agree with you and have been saying so for years. But even the Mailman > software suggest replies go to the individual instead of the list. So much > for> collaboration. Mailman might be relying on the faint hope that mail user agents actually used the List-Post header for a "reply-to-list" function. Mailman doesn't prevent that. What mailman is suggesting is that you not set the Reply-To header to the list. The reason for that is because if list participants have already set the Reply-To, a new Reply-To set by the list overwrites the original mailer's Reply-To, and information is thereby lost. My mail user agent (mutt) binds the "l" key to "reply-to-list", so that when I want to reply just to the list, as in this case, I can. Part of the reason I continue to use mutt on my Mac, despite some inconveniences I've experienced under OS X 10.5, is this list-reply feature, which I find very helpful (and which Apple Mail doesn't provide). I suspect we're well off-topic for this list now, however, so I'll shut up. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: shifting a table outside margins?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:30:55PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: What I find I can do is to set each column to a % width. That's fine, and equivalent to figuring out a number of cm. The table does not center itself on the page, though. It slides off to the right... I _think_ I used a float for the table in order to make this work nicely. I don't think I was able to get the table to look good without the float. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: shifting a table outside margins?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:30:55PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: What I find I can do is to set each column to a % width. That's fine, and equivalent to figuring out a number of cm. The table does not center itself on the page, though. It slides off to the right... I _think_ I used a float for the table in order to make this work nicely. I don't think I was able to get the table to look good without the float. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: shifting a table outside margins?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:30:55PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > What I find I can do is to set each column to a % width. That's fine, > and equivalent to figuring out a number of cm. The table does not > center itself on the page, though. It slides off to the right... I _think_ I used a float for the table in order to make this work nicely. I don't think I was able to get the table to look good without the float. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: shifting a table outside margins?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 02:54:21PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Is there any way to force a table to move to the left outside the normal margins? I have a table in a document that really won't fit into a size any smaller than about 7 inches across, but I don't want margins to be that wide on letter paper. You can adjust tables to % of page. This has worked for me, but it took a great deal of fiddling. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: shifting a table outside margins?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 08:01:32PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: OK, but I don't know where this goes. There is no setting under the table settings which addresses this. In my LyX (1.6.2 on Mac OX X 10.5.x) I can C-click a table, and get a menu. It has Settings… at the bottom. The option is underneath that. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: shifting a table outside margins?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 02:54:21PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Is there any way to force a table to move to the left outside the normal margins? I have a table in a document that really won't fit into a size any smaller than about 7 inches across, but I don't want margins to be that wide on letter paper. You can adjust tables to % of page. This has worked for me, but it took a great deal of fiddling. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: shifting a table outside margins?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 08:01:32PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: OK, but I don't know where this goes. There is no setting under the table settings which addresses this. In my LyX (1.6.2 on Mac OX X 10.5.x) I can C-click a table, and get a menu. It has Settings… at the bottom. The option is underneath that. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: shifting a table outside margins?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 02:54:21PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > Is there any way to force a table to move to the left outside the normal > margins? I have a table in a document that really won't fit into a size > any smaller than about 7 inches across, but I don't want margins to be > that wide on letter paper. You can adjust tables to "% of page". This has worked for me, but it took a great deal of fiddling. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: shifting a table outside margins?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 08:01:32PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > OK, but I don't know where this goes. There is no setting under the > table settings which addresses this. In my LyX (1.6.2 on Mac OX X 10.5.x) I can C-click a table, and get a menu. It has "Settings…" at the bottom. The option is underneath that. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Photo-ready output
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:54:04PM +0100, Sam Liddicott wrote: to be sure that all fonts are embedded (I thought all PDF did that). Certainly not. Emdedded fonts means the entire fontset needed to display is actually in the document, rather than just a reference to the font. There's a similar standard for archival purposes (PDF/A) that also has these rules. This feature is slightly controversial in the archives world, because in archives it's common to have a series of documents all rendered the same way (think of newspapers, for instance -- the same font every day), and it's clumsy to have to keep a whole copy of the font with every document when you could just archive it once, and then re-use it for everything in the series. Which reminds me to ask whether anyone knows which LaTeX versions output PDFs that are in fact PDF/A? It'd be nice to tag them if so. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Photo-ready output
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:54:04PM +0100, Sam Liddicott wrote: to be sure that all fonts are embedded (I thought all PDF did that). Certainly not. Emdedded fonts means the entire fontset needed to display is actually in the document, rather than just a reference to the font. There's a similar standard for archival purposes (PDF/A) that also has these rules. This feature is slightly controversial in the archives world, because in archives it's common to have a series of documents all rendered the same way (think of newspapers, for instance -- the same font every day), and it's clumsy to have to keep a whole copy of the font with every document when you could just archive it once, and then re-use it for everything in the series. Which reminds me to ask whether anyone knows which LaTeX versions output PDFs that are in fact PDF/A? It'd be nice to tag them if so. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Photo-ready output
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:54:04PM +0100, Sam Liddicott wrote: > to be sure that all fonts are embedded (I thought all PDF did that). Certainly not. "Emdedded fonts" means the entire fontset needed to display is actually in the document, rather than just a reference to the font. There's a similar standard for archival purposes (PDF/A) that also has these rules. This feature is slightly controversial in the archives world, because in archives it's common to have a series of documents all rendered the same way (think of newspapers, for instance -- the same font every day), and it's clumsy to have to keep a whole copy of the font with every document when you could just archive it once, and then re-use it for everything in the series. Which reminds me to ask whether anyone knows which LaTeX versions output PDFs that are in fact PDF/A? It'd be nice to tag them if so. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Suggestion
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 08:39:24AM -0400, Manoj Rajagopalan wrote: , thunderbird, kmail etc. allow you to move incoming mails into custom folders based on criteria like To:,Cc: fields etc. Or the List-*: mail headers, which were designed partly for just that purpose. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Suggestion
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 08:39:24AM -0400, Manoj Rajagopalan wrote: , thunderbird, kmail etc. allow you to move incoming mails into custom folders based on criteria like To:,Cc: fields etc. Or the List-*: mail headers, which were designed partly for just that purpose. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Suggestion
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 08:39:24AM -0400, Manoj Rajagopalan wrote: , > thunderbird, kmail etc. allow you to move incoming mails into custom folders > based on criteria like To:,Cc: fields etc. Or the List-*: mail headers, which were designed partly for just that purpose. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: add lyx-users to message Subject?
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 08:59:59AM +1000, Typhoon wrote: he probably doesn't use procmail. However, Thunderbird, like almost all pop mail clients allows you to define filter rules that will direct lyx-user emails to a special folder. Also, the list seems to use the List-* headers (although not, bizarrely, List-Id), so you can reliably filter on those even if the message is just copied to the list. You may have to use your mail client's ability to show you all of the headers to learn what the particular headers you need are. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: add lyx-users to message Subject?
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 08:59:59AM +1000, Typhoon wrote: he probably doesn't use procmail. However, Thunderbird, like almost all pop mail clients allows you to define filter rules that will direct lyx-user emails to a special folder. Also, the list seems to use the List-* headers (although not, bizarrely, List-Id), so you can reliably filter on those even if the message is just copied to the list. You may have to use your mail client's ability to show you all of the headers to learn what the particular headers you need are. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: add "lyx-users" to message Subject?
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 08:59:59AM +1000, Typhoon wrote: > he probably doesn't use procmail. However, Thunderbird, like almost all > pop mail clients allows you to define filter rules that will direct > lyx-user emails to a special folder. Also, the list seems to use the List-* headers (although not, bizarrely, List-Id), so you can reliably filter on those even if the message is just copied to the list. You may have to use your mail client's ability to show you all of the headers to learn what the particular headers you need are. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: changing font family of greyed-out text?
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 07:49:53AM +, Guenter Milde wrote: You already have the TODOS in a branch, fine. So you do not need the special turnable into invisible notes feature of greyed-out notes and are free to use any markup in your branch, true?. Exactly. (That's part of my problem -- I'm not that bright, and I didn't exactly know how to mark up things only in that branch. Is it possible? I tried changing the default font family on that branch, but it changed the whole document.) For smaller remarks I'd recommend margin notes. Otherwise, some convention like emphasized quotes or paragraphs in small caps are markup variants that can be achieved with just some keystrokes/clicks. You might even set up a custom keybinding for your markup choice. Hmm, this is a good idea. Thanks! A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: changing font family of greyed-out text?
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 07:49:53AM +, Guenter Milde wrote: You already have the TODOS in a branch, fine. So you do not need the special turnable into invisible notes feature of greyed-out notes and are free to use any markup in your branch, true?. Exactly. (That's part of my problem -- I'm not that bright, and I didn't exactly know how to mark up things only in that branch. Is it possible? I tried changing the default font family on that branch, but it changed the whole document.) For smaller remarks I'd recommend margin notes. Otherwise, some convention like emphasized quotes or paragraphs in small caps are markup variants that can be achieved with just some keystrokes/clicks. You might even set up a custom keybinding for your markup choice. Hmm, this is a good idea. Thanks! A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: changing font family of greyed-out text?
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 07:49:53AM +, Guenter Milde wrote: > You already have the "TODOS" in a branch, fine. So you do not need the > special "turnable into invisible notes" feature of greyed-out notes and > are free to use any markup in your branch, true?. Exactly. (That's part of my problem -- I'm not that bright, and I didn't exactly know how to mark up things only in that branch. Is it possible? I tried changing the default font family on that branch, but it changed the whole document.) > For smaller remarks I'd recommend margin notes. > Otherwise, some convention like "emphasized quotes" or "paragraphs in > small caps" are markup variants that can be achieved with just some > keystrokes/clicks. > > You might even set up a custom keybinding for your markup choice. Hmm, this is a good idea. Thanks! A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Module Example [Was: changing font family of greyed-out text?]
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 05:37:35PM -0400, rgheck wrote:
I'm guessing that you are just redefining the font color, etc, for
display in LyX, rather than redefining the LaTeX. The two are separate.
Oh, sorry I wasn't clear. I want exactly the opposite. The people
I'm collaborating with don't have or use LyX, and don't want to. So
I'm producing documents that they read and comment on, but don't
change. It's a little awkward, but it's better than using Word and
having it reformat everything mysteriously from time to time.
LyX inserts this into the preamble for greyed-out notes:
%% The greyedout annotation environment
\newenvironment{lyxgreyedout}{\textcolor[gray]{0.8}\bgroup}{\egroup}
So what you need to do is put something like this into your preamble:
\renewenvironment{lyxgreyedout}{\textcolor{blue}\bgroup}{\egroup}
Untested, but it should work.
That does work (it's what I've been doing). What I _actually_ want to
do, however, is also change the font family of the output. That is,
I'm normally using a serif body type (Almost European), so I want
these comments as sans serif in the output I produce. This is because
changing the colour doesn't help you visually very much if you print
it on a monochrome printer, unless the greyed out notes are very light
(in which case they're hard to read).
Clearly, what I need to know is how to change the font family for just
one environment. The necessary pages of The Fine Manual have so far
eluded me.
Thanks for your help!
A
--
Andrew Sullivan
a...@shinkuro.com
Shinkuro, Inc.
changing font family of greyed-out text?
Hi, I know how to change the colour of greyed-out notes, but I'd like to be able to change the font family for them all. Even if I change the colour to blue, when people print it the blue shows up as grey, and it doesn't stand out enough from the rest of the page. Actually, rather than ask for a specific solution (interesting as this one is to me), maybe I'll describe what I'm trying to do. I'm attempting to use the greyed-out text to highlight things that need addressing in a document. So open questions go into greyed-out notes that are also, as it happens, in a branch of the document. This way I can always get a clean copy or a copy with these open questions in. Since there didn't seem to be a fast, cheap, and easy way to define the body text properties for things in one branch and not another, I thought I'd use the greyed-out notes and just put them all in one branch. This works, but the notes are still not distictive enough in printed copies. Since I'm working with some people who often mark up on paper, I need something that will be obvious when printed. Clue sticks much appreciated. If I've overlooked something obvious that I should have read, please feel free to raspberry me. Thanks. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Module Example [Was: changing font family of greyed-out text?]
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 05:37:35PM -0400, rgheck wrote:
I'm guessing that you are just redefining the font color, etc, for
display in LyX, rather than redefining the LaTeX. The two are separate.
Oh, sorry I wasn't clear. I want exactly the opposite. The people
I'm collaborating with don't have or use LyX, and don't want to. So
I'm producing documents that they read and comment on, but don't
change. It's a little awkward, but it's better than using Word and
having it reformat everything mysteriously from time to time.
LyX inserts this into the preamble for greyed-out notes:
%% The greyedout annotation environment
\newenvironment{lyxgreyedout}{\textcolor[gray]{0.8}\bgroup}{\egroup}
So what you need to do is put something like this into your preamble:
\renewenvironment{lyxgreyedout}{\textcolor{blue}\bgroup}{\egroup}
Untested, but it should work.
That does work (it's what I've been doing). What I _actually_ want to
do, however, is also change the font family of the output. That is,
I'm normally using a serif body type (Almost European), so I want
these comments as sans serif in the output I produce. This is because
changing the colour doesn't help you visually very much if you print
it on a monochrome printer, unless the greyed out notes are very light
(in which case they're hard to read).
Clearly, what I need to know is how to change the font family for just
one environment. The necessary pages of The Fine Manual have so far
eluded me.
Thanks for your help!
A
--
Andrew Sullivan
a...@shinkuro.com
Shinkuro, Inc.
changing font family of greyed-out text?
Hi, I know how to change the colour of greyed-out notes, but I'd like to be able to change the font family for them all. Even if I change the colour to blue, when people print it the blue shows up as grey, and it doesn't stand out enough from the rest of the page. Actually, rather than ask for a specific solution (interesting as this one is to me), maybe I'll describe what I'm trying to do. I'm attempting to use the greyed-out text to highlight things that need addressing in a document. So open questions go into greyed-out notes that are also, as it happens, in a branch of the document. This way I can always get a clean copy or a copy with these open questions in. Since there didn't seem to be a fast, cheap, and easy way to define the body text properties for things in one branch and not another, I thought I'd use the greyed-out notes and just put them all in one branch. This works, but the notes are still not distictive enough in printed copies. Since I'm working with some people who often mark up on paper, I need something that will be obvious when printed. Clue sticks much appreciated. If I've overlooked something obvious that I should have read, please feel free to raspberry me. Thanks. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: Module Example [Was: changing font family of greyed-out text?]
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 05:37:35PM -0400, rgheck wrote:
>>
> I'm guessing that you are just redefining the font color, etc, for
> display in LyX, rather than redefining the LaTeX. The two are separate.
Oh, sorry I wasn't clear. I want exactly the opposite. The people
I'm collaborating with don't have or use LyX, and don't want to. So
I'm producing documents that they read and comment on, but don't
change. It's a little awkward, but it's better than using Word and
having it reformat everything mysteriously from time to time.
> LyX inserts this into the preamble for greyed-out notes:
>
> %% The greyedout annotation environment
>
> \newenvironment{lyxgreyedout}{\textcolor[gray]{0.8}\bgroup}{\egroup}
>
> So what you need to do is put something like this into your preamble:
>
> \renewenvironment{lyxgreyedout}{\textcolor{blue}\bgroup}{\egroup}
> Untested, but it should work.
That does work (it's what I've been doing). What I _actually_ want to
do, however, is also change the font family of the output. That is,
I'm normally using a serif body type (Almost European), so I want
these comments as sans serif in the output I produce. This is because
changing the colour doesn't help you visually very much if you print
it on a monochrome printer, unless the greyed out notes are very light
(in which case they're hard to read).
Clearly, what I need to know is how to change the font family for just
one environment. The necessary pages of The Fine Manual have so far
eluded me.
Thanks for your help!
A
--
Andrew Sullivan
a...@shinkuro.com
Shinkuro, Inc.
changing font family of greyed-out text?
Hi, I know how to change the colour of greyed-out notes, but I'd like to be able to change the font family for them all. Even if I change the colour to blue, when people print it the blue shows up as grey, and it doesn't stand out enough from the rest of the page. Actually, rather than ask for a specific solution (interesting as this one is to me), maybe I'll describe what I'm trying to do. I'm attempting to use the greyed-out text to highlight things that need addressing in a document. So open questions go into greyed-out notes that are also, as it happens, in a branch of the document. This way I can always get a "clean" copy or a copy with these open questions in. Since there didn't seem to be a fast, cheap, and easy way to define the body text properties for things in one branch and not another, I thought I'd use the greyed-out notes and just put them all in one branch. This works, but the notes are still not distictive enough in printed copies. Since I'm working with some people who often mark up on paper, I need something that will be obvious when printed. Clue sticks much appreciated. If I've overlooked something obvious that I should have read, please feel free to raspberry me. Thanks. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: \includeonly on 1.6.2?
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 01:26:49PM +, Guenter Milde wrote: Are you sure the manual mentions \includeonly (as opposed to \include)? Yes. It turns out bug 5360 made this point, just not very prominently. I added a clarification there. The wiki can be fixed by everyone, click the Edit button/link. Done. Thanks! A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: \includeonly on 1.6.2?
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 01:26:49PM +, Guenter Milde wrote: Are you sure the manual mentions \includeonly (as opposed to \include)? Yes. It turns out bug 5360 made this point, just not very prominently. I added a clarification there. The wiki can be fixed by everyone, click the Edit button/link. Done. Thanks! A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: \includeonly on 1.6.2?
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 01:26:49PM +, Guenter Milde wrote: > > Are you sure the manual mentions \includeonly (as opposed to \include)? Yes. It turns out bug 5360 made this point, just not very prominently. I added a clarification there. > The wiki can be fixed by everyone, click the Edit button/link. Done. Thanks! A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
\includeonly on 1.6.2?
Hi, 1.6.2, Mac OS X 10.5.6. latex -version pdfTeX 3.141592-1.40.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) kpathsea version 3.5.6 Copyright 2007 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX). Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber. There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and the Lesser GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING and the pdfTeX source. Primary author of pdfTeX: Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX). Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others. Compiled with libpng 1.2.15; using libpng 1.2.15 Compiled with zlib 1.2.3; using zlib 1.2.3 Compiled with xpdf version 3.01 (This is from gwTeX.) When I use \includeonly with multiple files. I get the correct ToC and such at the beginning of the output, but the included file doesn't ever show up. I'm sure I've missed something in the documentation, but I've looked through it several times can't see what I've done wrong. (I've tried absolute paths, relative paths, c, all without luck.) Could someone apply a cluestick? A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: \includeonly on 1.6.2?
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:56:59PM +, Guenter Milde wrote: \includeonly is currently not supported. Aha. I think this needs to be fixed in the wiki, then. Not to mention the manual :) How do I go about that? -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
\includeonly on 1.6.2?
Hi, 1.6.2, Mac OS X 10.5.6. latex -version pdfTeX 3.141592-1.40.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) kpathsea version 3.5.6 Copyright 2007 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX). Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber. There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and the Lesser GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING and the pdfTeX source. Primary author of pdfTeX: Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX). Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others. Compiled with libpng 1.2.15; using libpng 1.2.15 Compiled with zlib 1.2.3; using zlib 1.2.3 Compiled with xpdf version 3.01 (This is from gwTeX.) When I use \includeonly with multiple files. I get the correct ToC and such at the beginning of the output, but the included file doesn't ever show up. I'm sure I've missed something in the documentation, but I've looked through it several times can't see what I've done wrong. (I've tried absolute paths, relative paths, c, all without luck.) Could someone apply a cluestick? A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: \includeonly on 1.6.2?
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:56:59PM +, Guenter Milde wrote: \includeonly is currently not supported. Aha. I think this needs to be fixed in the wiki, then. Not to mention the manual :) How do I go about that? -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
\includeonly on 1.6.2?
Hi, 1.6.2, Mac OS X 10.5.6. latex -version pdfTeX 3.141592-1.40.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) kpathsea version 3.5.6 Copyright 2007 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX). Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber. There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and the Lesser GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING and the pdfTeX source. Primary author of pdfTeX: Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX). Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others. Compiled with libpng 1.2.15; using libpng 1.2.15 Compiled with zlib 1.2.3; using zlib 1.2.3 Compiled with xpdf version 3.01 (This is from gwTeX.) When I use \includeonly with multiple files. I get the correct ToC and such at the beginning of the output, but the included file doesn't ever show up. I'm sure I've missed something in the documentation, but I've looked through it several times & can't see what I've done wrong. (I've tried absolute paths, relative paths, , all without luck.) Could someone apply a cluestick? A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: \includeonly on 1.6.2?
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:56:59PM +, Guenter Milde wrote: > \includeonly is currently not supported. Aha. I think this needs to be fixed in the wiki, then. Not to mention the manual :) How do I go about that? -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: 1.6.2 instability with multiple child docs, OSX?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 07:41:52AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: A backtrace would be even better. Is there some Fine Manual I ought to be reading to learn where I ought to expect the core file? A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: 1.6.2 instability with multiple child docs, OSX?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 07:41:52AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: A backtrace would be even better. Is there some Fine Manual I ought to be reading to learn where I ought to expect the core file? A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: 1.6.2 instability with multiple child docs, OSX?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 07:41:52AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > A backtrace would be even better. Is there some Fine Manual I ought to be reading to learn where I ought to expect the core file? A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
1.6.2 instability with multiple child docs, OSX?
Hi, Is anyone else having problems with instability and multiple child docs? I've had LyX crash about 1/2 a dozen times today alone with this. (It just vanishes.) If there is some place I'm likely to find a backtrace, I'm happy to share it privately. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
1.6.2 instability with multiple child docs, OSX?
Hi, Is anyone else having problems with instability and multiple child docs? I've had LyX crash about 1/2 a dozen times today alone with this. (It just vanishes.) If there is some place I'm likely to find a backtrace, I'm happy to share it privately. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
1.6.2 instability with multiple child docs, OSX?
Hi, Is anyone else having problems with instability and multiple child docs? I've had LyX crash about 1/2 a dozen times today alone with this. (It just vanishes.) If there is some place I'm likely to find a backtrace, I'm happy to share it privately. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: retrive from Database
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 09:16:26PM +0530, janardhana rao wrote: Right now we are generating the pdf reports using Jasper (nearly 120 reports) and we are planning to migrate into Lyx. I don't think you need LyX for this. If you're generating reports, do it with a quick web front end, some Perl or Python or whatever, and LaTeX-PDF. Very easy. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: retrive from Database
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 09:16:26PM +0530, janardhana rao wrote: Right now we are generating the pdf reports using Jasper (nearly 120 reports) and we are planning to migrate into Lyx. I don't think you need LyX for this. If you're generating reports, do it with a quick web front end, some Perl or Python or whatever, and LaTeX-PDF. Very easy. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: retrive from Database
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 09:16:26PM +0530, janardhana rao wrote: > Right now we are generating the pdf reports using Jasper (nearly 120 > reports) and we are planning to migrate into Lyx. I don't think you need LyX for this. If you're generating reports, do it with a quick web front end, some Perl or Python or whatever, and LaTeX->PDF. Very easy. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: exporting to ODF or DOC
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 08:16:01PM +0200, Marco Beishuizen wrote: Hi, Is there any way of exporting a LyX document to OpenDocument or Word? In LyX you can add the export to your menu but that only seems to change the file extension, and not converting anything. I also saw that there is a script tex4ht. But how do I install this? This all depends on your LaTeX distribution. It works ok for me on Debian Linux, but I can't get it to work on my Mac. I don't know how to get it to work under FreeBSD. There is discussion of this in the wiki, however. -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: exporting to ODF or DOC
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 08:16:01PM +0200, Marco Beishuizen wrote: Hi, Is there any way of exporting a LyX document to OpenDocument or Word? In LyX you can add the export to your menu but that only seems to change the file extension, and not converting anything. I also saw that there is a script tex4ht. But how do I install this? This all depends on your LaTeX distribution. It works ok for me on Debian Linux, but I can't get it to work on my Mac. I don't know how to get it to work under FreeBSD. There is discussion of this in the wiki, however. -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: exporting to ODF or DOC
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 08:16:01PM +0200, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any way of exporting a LyX document to OpenDocument or Word? In > LyX you can add the export to your menu but that only seems to change > the file extension, and not converting anything. I also saw that there > is a script "tex4ht". But how do I install this? This all depends on your LaTeX distribution. It works ok for me on Debian Linux, but I can't get it to work on my Mac. I don't know how to get it to work under FreeBSD. There is discussion of this in the wiki, however. -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
Re: [Figure embedding] An easy way to share lyx documents
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 09:26:26AM +0200, A B wrote: suggested. But basically everything in one place. Reason? If you need lyxa format, you are either archiving it for backup or sending it to someone. The recipient are never going to have the same directory structure as you. That will only mean failure to try to achieve. The easier way is to just loose the exact location if you are going for a lyxa file. You have this problem anyway, because LyX depends on LaTeX and all the various LaTeX packages people have installed. It's really quite a bit more complicated than a Word or OOo installation. I've no idea what to do about this short of limiting the power of LyX by shipping its own LaTeX with standard extensions. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
