Re: Getting cocoaSpell to work with lyx on a Mac | Or Alternative

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I'm tried this on my Mac, too.
I downloaded the german aspell dictionary, unzipped it, and put in into the 
cocoAspell-Folder, changed the path in Lyx etc.
A first test ended up in the same error you reported.

Then I looked into the dictionary folder and saw that there is no de-common-rws 
file.

Then I realized what the problem is:
I didn't compile the aspell dictionary! (the README-file tells me I have to do 
this ;-))
CocoAspell does this automatically if you open its preference pane 
(Systemeinstellungen): If there's a new dict in the path, compiling starts.
After compiling be sure that you have checked at least German in the 
CocoAspell preference pane.

So maybe you have forgotten this compilation step, too?

Kind regards,
Johannes


After this spellchecking in German works for me.

Am 16.07.2010 um 01:06 schrieb iustifico:

 Does someone know, how to fix this error?
 
 Kind regards,
 iustifico
 
 Am 12.07.2010 um 22:48 schrieb iustifico:
 
 Am 12.07.2010 um 20:16 schrieb BH:
 
 Did you try reconfiguring LyX? (LyX  Reconfigure, then restarting LyX)
 
 Yes. I got the English dictionary to run. I figured out, that the cursor 
 must be in the beginning of the file, so that the spellchecker can find 
 errors. If you are at the end of the file with the cursor, it doesn't find 
 anything.
 
 Now I am trying to get the german dictionary to run. I downloaded the file
 
 aspell6-de-20030222-1.tar.bz2
 
 from the cocoAspell-ftp-server and after expanding it i put it in
 
 /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/
 
 Then I changed the entry in alternative language under preferences - 
 languages - spellchecking to
 
 /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-de-20030222-1/deutsch.alias
 
 Now it looks like this.
 Bildschirmfoto 2010-07-12 um 20.47.48.png
 
 I changed this one too:
 Bildschirmfoto 2010-07-12 um 20.48.33.png
 
 But I get this error:
 Bildschirmfoto 2010-07-12 um 22.46.58.png
 Kind regards,
 iustifico
 

Re: Getting cocoaSpell to work with lyx on a Mac | Or Alternative

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I'm tried this on my Mac, too.
I downloaded the german aspell dictionary, unzipped it, and put in into the 
cocoAspell-Folder, changed the path in Lyx etc.
A first test ended up in the same error you reported.

Then I looked into the dictionary folder and saw that there is no de-common-rws 
file.

Then I realized what the problem is:
I didn't compile the aspell dictionary! (the README-file tells me I have to do 
this ;-))
CocoAspell does this automatically if you open its preference pane 
(Systemeinstellungen): If there's a new dict in the path, compiling starts.
After compiling be sure that you have checked at least German in the 
CocoAspell preference pane.

So maybe you have forgotten this compilation step, too?

Kind regards,
Johannes


After this spellchecking in German works for me.

Am 16.07.2010 um 01:06 schrieb iustifico:

 Does someone know, how to fix this error?
 
 Kind regards,
 iustifico
 
 Am 12.07.2010 um 22:48 schrieb iustifico:
 
 Am 12.07.2010 um 20:16 schrieb BH:
 
 Did you try reconfiguring LyX? (LyX  Reconfigure, then restarting LyX)
 
 Yes. I got the English dictionary to run. I figured out, that the cursor 
 must be in the beginning of the file, so that the spellchecker can find 
 errors. If you are at the end of the file with the cursor, it doesn't find 
 anything.
 
 Now I am trying to get the german dictionary to run. I downloaded the file
 
 aspell6-de-20030222-1.tar.bz2
 
 from the cocoAspell-ftp-server and after expanding it i put it in
 
 /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/
 
 Then I changed the entry in alternative language under preferences - 
 languages - spellchecking to
 
 /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-de-20030222-1/deutsch.alias
 
 Now it looks like this.
 Bildschirmfoto 2010-07-12 um 20.47.48.png
 
 I changed this one too:
 Bildschirmfoto 2010-07-12 um 20.48.33.png
 
 But I get this error:
 Bildschirmfoto 2010-07-12 um 22.46.58.png
 Kind regards,
 iustifico
 

Re: Getting cocoaSpell to work with lyx on a Mac | Or Alternative

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I'm tried this on my Mac, too.
I downloaded the german aspell dictionary, unzipped it, and put in into the 
cocoAspell-Folder, changed the path in Lyx etc.
A first test ended up in the same error you reported.

Then I looked into the dictionary folder and saw that there is no de-common-rws 
file.

Then I realized what the problem is:
I didn't compile the aspell dictionary! (the README-file tells me I have to do 
this ;-))
CocoAspell does this automatically if you open its preference pane 
(Systemeinstellungen): If there's a new dict in the path, compiling starts.
After compiling be sure that you have checked at least "German" in the 
CocoAspell preference pane.

So maybe you have forgotten this compilation step, too?

Kind regards,
Johannes


After this spellchecking in German works for me.

Am 16.07.2010 um 01:06 schrieb iustifico:

> Does someone know, how to fix this error?
> 
> Kind regards,
> iustifico
> 
> Am 12.07.2010 um 22:48 schrieb iustifico:
> 
>> Am 12.07.2010 um 20:16 schrieb BH:
>>> 
>>> Did you try reconfiguring LyX? (LyX > Reconfigure, then restarting LyX)
>> 
>> Yes. I got the English dictionary to run. I figured out, that the cursor 
>> must be in the beginning of the file, so that the spellchecker can find 
>> errors. If you are at the end of the file with the cursor, it doesn't find 
>> anything.
>> 
>> Now I am trying to get the german dictionary to run. I downloaded the file
>> 
>> aspell6-de-20030222-1.tar.bz2
>> 
>> from the cocoAspell-ftp-server and after expanding it i put it in
>> 
>> /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/
>> 
>> Then I changed the entry in "alternative language" under preferences -> 
>> languages -> spellchecking to
>> 
>> /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-de-20030222-1/deutsch.alias
>> 
>> Now it looks like this.
>> 
>> 
>> I changed this one too:
>> 
>> 
>> But I get this error:
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> iustifico
> 

Re: Shortcut for pdflatex on mac

[Johannes Knaus]

Thank you. That solved my problem.
I simply overlooked that GUI based bind editing is now possible.

buffer-view pdf2

did the trick.

Johannes


Am 26.03.2010 um 20:50 schrieb BH:

 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Johannes Knaus knausli...@freenet.de wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'd like to create a keyboard-shortcut for PDF (pdflatex) in LyX.
 I'm using a Mac and LyX 1.6.5.
 After some reading in the wiki and on this list I tried the following:
 
 I'm not sure what you were reading, but it looks like this is the
 wrong advice for LyX-1.6. It would have been better to look in the
 User's Guide, which tells you to use the GUI (see below).
 
 1) I created a file myshortcuts.bind in ~/Library/Lyx-1.6/bind/ with the 
 following content (copied and pasted from the wiki and the mailinglist):
 
 # include one of the basic flavours (cua or emacs)
 \bind_file  cua
 # add your own bindings (overwriting the included ones)
 \bind   C-y buffer-export pdf2
 
 this didn't work.
 
 2.) I saved the same thing inside ~/Library/Lyx-1.6/bind/user.bind
 
 this worked, but not as I expected: Now, everytime I press Cmd-y a pdf file 
 is created in my current directory not in lyx.tempbuf() (wherever that is 
 exactly).
 
 buffer-export tells LyX to export the file in the requested format in
 the same directory as the original LyX file. So this is the expected
 behavior.
 
 What do I have to change to exactly mimic the pdflatex-button by a shortcut?
 
 You should use buffer-view in place of buffer-export. But rather than
 messing with .bind files, you should use LyX  Preferences  Editing 
 Shortcuts and define shortcuts there. (Search for buffer-view.)
 
 One further question: To keep all other shortcut settings as is default on 
 LyX-Mac I should better use \bind_file mac instead of cua, right?
 
 Yes.
 
 And finally: Does modifying the bind-files influence the stability of LyX? 
 If so, I'd rather stick to pressing the pdf-button.
 
 If the .bind file will load, it won't affect stability. But if you
 improperly define the .bind file, it won't load. That's partly why
 it's better to use the GUI for modifying shortcuts (which was
 introduced in LyX-1.6.0, I believe).
 
 BH

Re: Shortcut for pdflatex on mac

[Johannes Knaus]

Thank you. That solved my problem.
I simply overlooked that GUI based bind editing is now possible.

buffer-view pdf2

did the trick.

Johannes


Am 26.03.2010 um 20:50 schrieb BH:

 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Johannes Knaus knausli...@freenet.de wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'd like to create a keyboard-shortcut for PDF (pdflatex) in LyX.
 I'm using a Mac and LyX 1.6.5.
 After some reading in the wiki and on this list I tried the following:
 
 I'm not sure what you were reading, but it looks like this is the
 wrong advice for LyX-1.6. It would have been better to look in the
 User's Guide, which tells you to use the GUI (see below).
 
 1) I created a file myshortcuts.bind in ~/Library/Lyx-1.6/bind/ with the 
 following content (copied and pasted from the wiki and the mailinglist):
 
 # include one of the basic flavours (cua or emacs)
 \bind_file  cua
 # add your own bindings (overwriting the included ones)
 \bind   C-y buffer-export pdf2
 
 this didn't work.
 
 2.) I saved the same thing inside ~/Library/Lyx-1.6/bind/user.bind
 
 this worked, but not as I expected: Now, everytime I press Cmd-y a pdf file 
 is created in my current directory not in lyx.tempbuf() (wherever that is 
 exactly).
 
 buffer-export tells LyX to export the file in the requested format in
 the same directory as the original LyX file. So this is the expected
 behavior.
 
 What do I have to change to exactly mimic the pdflatex-button by a shortcut?
 
 You should use buffer-view in place of buffer-export. But rather than
 messing with .bind files, you should use LyX  Preferences  Editing 
 Shortcuts and define shortcuts there. (Search for buffer-view.)
 
 One further question: To keep all other shortcut settings as is default on 
 LyX-Mac I should better use \bind_file mac instead of cua, right?
 
 Yes.
 
 And finally: Does modifying the bind-files influence the stability of LyX? 
 If so, I'd rather stick to pressing the pdf-button.
 
 If the .bind file will load, it won't affect stability. But if you
 improperly define the .bind file, it won't load. That's partly why
 it's better to use the GUI for modifying shortcuts (which was
 introduced in LyX-1.6.0, I believe).
 
 BH

Re: Shortcut for pdflatex on mac

[Johannes Knaus]

Thank you. That solved my problem.
I simply overlooked that GUI based bind editing is now possible.

buffer-view pdf2

did the trick.

Johannes


Am 26.03.2010 um 20:50 schrieb BH:

> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Johannes Knaus <knausli...@freenet.de> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'd like to create a keyboard-shortcut for PDF (pdflatex) in LyX.
>> I'm using a Mac and LyX 1.6.5.
>> After some reading in the wiki and on this list I tried the following:
> 
> I'm not sure what you were reading, but it looks like this is the
> wrong advice for LyX-1.6. It would have been better to look in the
> User's Guide, which tells you to use the GUI (see below).
> 
>> 1) I created a file myshortcuts.bind in ~/Library/Lyx-1.6/bind/ with the 
>> following content (copied and pasted from the wiki and the mailinglist):
>> 
>> # include one of the basic flavours (cua or emacs)
>> \bind_file  "cua"
>> # add your own bindings (overwriting the included ones)
>> \bind   "C-y" "buffer-export pdf2"
>> 
>> this didn't work.
>> 
>> 2.) I saved the same thing inside ~/Library/Lyx-1.6/bind/user.bind
>> 
>> this worked, but not as I expected: Now, everytime I press Cmd-y a pdf file 
>> is created in my current directory not in lyx.tempbuf() (wherever that is 
>> exactly).
> 
> buffer-export tells LyX to export the file in the requested format in
> the same directory as the original LyX file. So this is the expected
> behavior.
> 
>> What do I have to change to exactly mimic the pdflatex-button by a shortcut?
> 
> You should use buffer-view in place of buffer-export. But rather than
> messing with .bind files, you should use LyX > Preferences > Editing >
> Shortcuts and define shortcuts there. (Search for "buffer-view".)
> 
>> One further question: To keep all other shortcut settings as is default on 
>> LyX-Mac I should better use \bind_file "mac" instead of "cua", right?
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> And finally: Does modifying the bind-files influence the stability of LyX? 
>> If so, I'd rather stick to pressing the pdf-button.
> 
> If the .bind file will load, it won't affect stability. But if you
> improperly define the .bind file, it won't load. That's partly why
> it's better to use the GUI for modifying shortcuts (which was
> introduced in LyX-1.6.0, I believe).
> 
> BH

Shortcut for pdflatex on mac

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I'd like to create a keyboard-shortcut for PDF (pdflatex) in LyX.
I'm using a Mac and LyX 1.6.5.
After some reading in the wiki and on this list I tried the following:

1) I created a file myshortcuts.bind in ~/Library/Lyx-1.6/bind/ with the 
following content (copied and pasted from the wiki and the mailinglist):

# include one of the basic flavours (cua or emacs)
\bind_file  cua
# add your own bindings (overwriting the included ones)
\bind   C-y buffer-export pdf2

this didn't work.

2.) I saved the same thing inside ~/Library/Lyx-1.6/bind/user.bind

this worked, but not as I expected: Now, everytime I press Cmd-y a pdf file is 
created in my current directory not in lyx.tempbuf() (wherever that is exactly).

What do I have to change to exactly mimic the pdflatex-button by a shortcut?

One further question: To keep all other shortcut settings as is default on 
LyX-Mac I should better use \bind_file mac instead of cua, right?

And finally: Does modifying the bind-files influence the stability of LyX? If 
so, I'd rather stick to pressing the pdf-button.

Thanks for your help.

Johannes

Shortcut for pdflatex on mac

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I'd like to create a keyboard-shortcut for PDF (pdflatex) in LyX.
I'm using a Mac and LyX 1.6.5.
After some reading in the wiki and on this list I tried the following:

1) I created a file myshortcuts.bind in ~/Library/Lyx-1.6/bind/ with the 
following content (copied and pasted from the wiki and the mailinglist):

# include one of the basic flavours (cua or emacs)
\bind_file  cua
# add your own bindings (overwriting the included ones)
\bind   C-y buffer-export pdf2

this didn't work.

2.) I saved the same thing inside ~/Library/Lyx-1.6/bind/user.bind

this worked, but not as I expected: Now, everytime I press Cmd-y a pdf file is 
created in my current directory not in lyx.tempbuf() (wherever that is exactly).

What do I have to change to exactly mimic the pdflatex-button by a shortcut?

One further question: To keep all other shortcut settings as is default on 
LyX-Mac I should better use \bind_file mac instead of cua, right?

And finally: Does modifying the bind-files influence the stability of LyX? If 
so, I'd rather stick to pressing the pdf-button.

Thanks for your help.

Johannes

Shortcut for pdflatex on mac

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I'd like to create a keyboard-shortcut for PDF (pdflatex) in LyX.
I'm using a Mac and LyX 1.6.5.
After some reading in the wiki and on this list I tried the following:

1) I created a file myshortcuts.bind in ~/Library/Lyx-1.6/bind/ with the 
following content (copied and pasted from the wiki and the mailinglist):

# include one of the basic flavours (cua or emacs)
\bind_file  "cua"
# add your own bindings (overwriting the included ones)
\bind   "C-y" "buffer-export pdf2"

this didn't work.

2.) I saved the same thing inside ~/Library/Lyx-1.6/bind/user.bind

this worked, but not as I expected: Now, everytime I press Cmd-y a pdf file is 
created in my current directory not in lyx.tempbuf() (wherever that is exactly).

What do I have to change to exactly mimic the pdflatex-button by a shortcut?

One further question: To keep all other shortcut settings as is default on 
LyX-Mac I should better use \bind_file "mac" instead of "cua", right?

And finally: Does modifying the bind-files influence the stability of LyX? If 
so, I'd rather stick to pressing the pdf-button.

Thanks for your help.

Johannes

Re: invisible dialog box text - OSX 10.6.2 Lyx 1.6.5

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 31.12.2009 um 11:32 schrieb Anders Ekberg:
 
 I am not sure whether that's the correct info. There were problems with
 LyX 1.6.4(.0) and OSX 10.6, but LyX 1.6.5 should work with 10.6 (as well
 as 1.6.4.2). 
 
 Anyone knows why the download page still says (prior to 10.6) ?
 It shouldn't. LyX 1.6.5 in general works fine on 10.6.

I haven't encountered any problems so far with Lyx 1.6.5 and Mac OSX 10.6.2 
running on three different Macs.

Happy New Year,
Johannes

Re: invisible dialog box text - OSX 10.6.2 Lyx 1.6.5

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 31.12.2009 um 11:32 schrieb Anders Ekberg:
 
 I am not sure whether that's the correct info. There were problems with
 LyX 1.6.4(.0) and OSX 10.6, but LyX 1.6.5 should work with 10.6 (as well
 as 1.6.4.2). 
 
 Anyone knows why the download page still says (prior to 10.6) ?
 It shouldn't. LyX 1.6.5 in general works fine on 10.6.

I haven't encountered any problems so far with Lyx 1.6.5 and Mac OSX 10.6.2 
running on three different Macs.

Happy New Year,
Johannes

Re: invisible dialog box text - OSX 10.6.2 Lyx 1.6.5

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 31.12.2009 um 11:32 schrieb Anders Ekberg:
>> 
>> I am not sure whether that's the correct info. There were problems with
>> LyX 1.6.4(.0) and OSX 10.6, but LyX 1.6.5 should work with 10.6 (as well
>> as 1.6.4.2). 
>> 
>> Anyone knows why the download page still says "(prior to 10.6)" ?
> It shouldn't. LyX 1.6.5 in general works fine on 10.6.

I haven't encountered any problems so far with Lyx 1.6.5 and Mac OSX 10.6.2 
running on three different Macs.

Happy New Year,
Johannes

Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.6.4.2 for Mac OS X 10.6 is released

[Johannes Knaus]

Hi,

Does this release also fix the crash when using spellcheck (which is  
caused by/related to the pseudo-crash fix)?


Otherwise, one should at least note that all users of this version  
should not use spellchecking from inside Lyx, as this can lead to a  
really loss of data.


However, thank you for supporting Mac-users!

Johannes

Am 16.11.2009 um 16:16 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

LyX 1.6.4.2, another minor service upgrade release, is available  
now. The
upgrade fixes recurring pseudo-crashes when running LyX on Mac OS X  
10.6 (Snow

Leopard). Apart from that, the release is identical with LyX 1.6.4.1.

Note that the fix impacts the performance on the Mac while  
autosaving. Thus,
the upgrade to this version is recommended to LyX users on Mac OS X  
10.6 only.


Please find the Mac binary here:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.4/LyX-1.6.4.2-Mac-Universal.dmg

The sources of the release are available here:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/lyx-1.6.4.2.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/lyx-1.6.4.2.tar.bz2

A patch against LyX 1.6.4.1 is also available:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/patch-1.6.4.2.gz
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/patch-1.6.4.2.bz2

Have fun!
The LyX Team

Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.6.4.2 for Mac OS X 10.6 is released

[Johannes Knaus]

Hi,

Does this release also fix the crash when using spellcheck (which is  
caused by/related to the pseudo-crash fix)?


Otherwise, one should at least note that all users of this version  
should not use spellchecking from inside Lyx, as this can lead to a  
really loss of data.


However, thank you for supporting Mac-users!

Johannes

Am 16.11.2009 um 16:16 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

LyX 1.6.4.2, another minor service upgrade release, is available  
now. The
upgrade fixes recurring pseudo-crashes when running LyX on Mac OS X  
10.6 (Snow

Leopard). Apart from that, the release is identical with LyX 1.6.4.1.

Note that the fix impacts the performance on the Mac while  
autosaving. Thus,
the upgrade to this version is recommended to LyX users on Mac OS X  
10.6 only.


Please find the Mac binary here:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.4/LyX-1.6.4.2-Mac-Universal.dmg

The sources of the release are available here:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/lyx-1.6.4.2.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/lyx-1.6.4.2.tar.bz2

A patch against LyX 1.6.4.1 is also available:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/patch-1.6.4.2.gz
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/patch-1.6.4.2.bz2

Have fun!
The LyX Team

Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.6.4.2 for Mac OS X 10.6 is released

[Johannes Knaus]

Hi,

Does this release also fix the crash when using spellcheck (which is  
caused by/related to the pseudo-crash fix)?


Otherwise, one should at least note that all users of this version  
should not use spellchecking from inside Lyx, as this can lead to a  
really loss of data.


However, thank you for supporting Mac-users!

Johannes

Am 16.11.2009 um 16:16 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

LyX 1.6.4.2, another minor service upgrade release, is available  
now. The
upgrade fixes recurring pseudo-crashes when running LyX on Mac OS X  
10.6 (Snow

Leopard). Apart from that, the release is identical with LyX 1.6.4.1.

Note that the fix impacts the performance on the Mac while  
autosaving. Thus,
the upgrade to this version is recommended to LyX users on Mac OS X  
10.6 only.


Please find the Mac binary here:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.4/LyX-1.6.4.2-Mac-Universal.dmg

The sources of the release are available here:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/lyx-1.6.4.2.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/lyx-1.6.4.2.tar.bz2

A patch against LyX 1.6.4.1 is also available:
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/patch-1.6.4.2.gz
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/patch-1.6.4.2.bz2

Have fun!
The LyX Team

Re: Snow Leopard, Auto-save, Etc: Binary for Testing

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello back again,

I have tested the SL build on a bigger document (around 120 pages) and  
have experienced no crashes so far.


Unfortunately, we have been informed about a bad side effect of this  
fix:

http://marc.info/?l=lyx-develm=125777684408838w=2

We have to investigate further. Please be careful while using the  
test binary.


Jürgen


Wow, indeed.

Never hit the spellcheck button.

I tried it, too. That's really crashing the whole MacOSX session. I  
get a blue screen and then my usual login-dialogue-window just as if I  
restarted my mac.


Johannes.

Re: Snow Leopard, Auto-save, Etc: Binary for Testing

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello back again,

I have tested the SL build on a bigger document (around 120 pages) and  
have experienced no crashes so far.


Unfortunately, we have been informed about a bad side effect of this  
fix:

http://marc.info/?l=lyx-develm=125777684408838w=2

We have to investigate further. Please be careful while using the  
test binary.


Jürgen


Wow, indeed.

Never hit the spellcheck button.

I tried it, too. That's really crashing the whole MacOSX session. I  
get a blue screen and then my usual login-dialogue-window just as if I  
restarted my mac.


Johannes.

Re: Snow Leopard, Auto-save, Etc: Binary for Testing

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello back again,

I have tested the SL build on a bigger document (around 120 pages) and  
have experienced no crashes so far.


Unfortunately, we have been informed about a bad side effect of this  
fix:

http://marc.info/?l=lyx-devel=125777684408838=2

We have to investigate further. Please be careful while using the  
test binary.


Jürgen


Wow, indeed.

Never hit the spellcheck button.

I tried it, too. That's really crashing the whole MacOSX session. I  
get a blue screen and then my usual login-dialogue-window just as if I  
restarted my mac.


Johannes.

Re: LyX 1.6.4.1 and Snow Leopard

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 23.09.2009 um 16:57 schrieb James C. Sutherland:

On Sep 23, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Stefano Baroni wrote:

Hi All. It seems that having a version of LyX working poperly on OS  
X 10.6 may require some time.


Do you confirm that the only feature not working properly is  
autosave?



That has been my observation.


So was mine.



Do you confirm that by disabling autosave LyX 1.6.4.1 works all  
right on MAC OS X 10.6?


No.  It seems that even by disabling autosave, LyX still attempts to  
perform autosaving and the crash still occurs.  However, this is  
little more than an annoyance since the app doesn't actually crash  
and no work is lost.


IMHO it is a little more than annoyance, as the crash notification  
window always pops up having focus.
That is, it is selected and in front of the text I'm writing on. So  
that's really a heavy interruption during writing.




If so, would you please remind us how to disable autosave?

LyX - Preferences - Look  Feel - User Interface - Backup  
Documents every XXX Minutes


As said, you can't really disable autosave. No matter which number you  
type here, LyX does automatic saving.
I don't know if this is only a Mac specific issue or happens on all  
platforms. If so, what is the use of this preference?

What do others say?

Would it be possible --as an intermediate workaround solution-- to  
make some code changes to autosave completely disable autosave and  
release this as a MacOSX-10.6-only Lyx-version?


Johannes

Re: LyX 1.6.4.1 and Snow Leopard

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 23.09.2009 um 16:57 schrieb James C. Sutherland:

On Sep 23, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Stefano Baroni wrote:

Hi All. It seems that having a version of LyX working poperly on OS  
X 10.6 may require some time.


Do you confirm that the only feature not working properly is  
autosave?



That has been my observation.


So was mine.



Do you confirm that by disabling autosave LyX 1.6.4.1 works all  
right on MAC OS X 10.6?


No.  It seems that even by disabling autosave, LyX still attempts to  
perform autosaving and the crash still occurs.  However, this is  
little more than an annoyance since the app doesn't actually crash  
and no work is lost.


IMHO it is a little more than annoyance, as the crash notification  
window always pops up having focus.
That is, it is selected and in front of the text I'm writing on. So  
that's really a heavy interruption during writing.




If so, would you please remind us how to disable autosave?

LyX - Preferences - Look  Feel - User Interface - Backup  
Documents every XXX Minutes


As said, you can't really disable autosave. No matter which number you  
type here, LyX does automatic saving.
I don't know if this is only a Mac specific issue or happens on all  
platforms. If so, what is the use of this preference?

What do others say?

Would it be possible --as an intermediate workaround solution-- to  
make some code changes to autosave completely disable autosave and  
release this as a MacOSX-10.6-only Lyx-version?


Johannes

Re: LyX 1.6.4.1 and Snow Leopard

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 23.09.2009 um 16:57 schrieb James C. Sutherland:

On Sep 23, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Stefano Baroni wrote:

Hi All. It seems that having a version of LyX working poperly on OS  
X 10.6 may require some time.


Do you confirm that the only feature not working properly is  
autosave?



That has been my observation.


So was mine.



Do you confirm that by disabling autosave LyX 1.6.4.1 works all  
right on MAC OS X 10.6?


No.  It seems that even by disabling autosave, LyX still attempts to  
perform autosaving and the "crash" still occurs.  However, this is  
little more than an annoyance since the app doesn't actually crash  
and no work is lost.


IMHO it is a little more than annoyance, as the crash notification  
window always pops up having focus.
That is, it is selected and in front of the text I'm writing on. So  
that's really a heavy interruption during writing.




If so, would you please remind us how to disable autosave?

LyX -> Preferences -> Look & Feel -> User Interface -> "Backup  
Documents every XXX Minutes"


As said, you can't really disable autosave. No matter which number you  
type here, LyX does automatic saving.
I don't know if this is only a Mac specific issue or happens on all  
platforms. If so, what is the use of this preference?

What do others say?

Would it be possible --as an intermediate workaround solution-- to  
make some code changes to autosave completely disable autosave and  
release this as a MacOSX-10.6-only Lyx-version?


Johannes

Re: LyX 1.6.4.1 and Snow Leopard

[Johannes Knaus]

Just my two cents:

I would wait until the crashes are fixed. It is true that you don't  
loose any work as LyX keeps on running, but the crash warnings will  
also keep nagging you as they appear quite often.


My own experiments on compiling LyX on 10.6 have failed, as I  
apparently have installed the wrong QT-version and cannot get rid of  
it (see my previous post on this). There seems to be a QT-from- 
Macports-Snow-Leopard incompatibility issue as well.
So I'm also waiting for an official solution, hoping I will be  
rescued by the LyX-Mac developers.


Johannes


Am 22.09.2009 um 15:52 schrieb James C. Sutherland:



On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:14 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:


Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com writes:


Dear all, does LyX 1.6.4.1 solve the problem with Snow Leopard?


No :(


But fortunately the problem is only an annoyance.  LyX  
crashes (you get an OSX crash warning), but the app remains  
functional and I have not experienced any loss of work.  So I would  
personally not shy away from the OS upgrade due to LyX fears.


Now if you are a software developer, that is another story.  The 32  
bit to 64 bit transition can be a bit painful!


James

Re: LyX 1.6.4.1 and Snow Leopard

[Johannes Knaus]

Just my two cents:

I would wait until the crashes are fixed. It is true that you don't  
loose any work as LyX keeps on running, but the crash warnings will  
also keep nagging you as they appear quite often.


My own experiments on compiling LyX on 10.6 have failed, as I  
apparently have installed the wrong QT-version and cannot get rid of  
it (see my previous post on this). There seems to be a QT-from- 
Macports-Snow-Leopard incompatibility issue as well.
So I'm also waiting for an official solution, hoping I will be  
rescued by the LyX-Mac developers.


Johannes


Am 22.09.2009 um 15:52 schrieb James C. Sutherland:



On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:14 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:


Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com writes:


Dear all, does LyX 1.6.4.1 solve the problem with Snow Leopard?


No :(


But fortunately the problem is only an annoyance.  LyX  
crashes (you get an OSX crash warning), but the app remains  
functional and I have not experienced any loss of work.  So I would  
personally not shy away from the OS upgrade due to LyX fears.


Now if you are a software developer, that is another story.  The 32  
bit to 64 bit transition can be a bit painful!


James

Re: LyX 1.6.4.1 and Snow Leopard

[Johannes Knaus]

Just my two cents:

I would wait until the crashes are fixed. It is true that you don't  
loose any work as LyX keeps on running, but the crash warnings will  
also keep nagging you as they appear quite often.


My own "experiments" on compiling LyX on 10.6 have failed, as I  
apparently have installed the wrong QT-version and cannot get rid of  
it (see my previous post on this). There seems to be a QT-from- 
Macports-Snow-Leopard incompatibility issue as well.
So I'm also waiting for an "official" solution, hoping I will be  
rescued by the LyX-Mac developers.


Johannes


Am 22.09.2009 um 15:52 schrieb James C. Sutherland:



On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:14 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:


Julio Rojas  writes:


Dear all, does LyX 1.6.4.1 solve the problem with Snow Leopard?


No :(


But fortunately the problem is only an annoyance.  LyX  
"crashes" (you get an OSX crash warning), but the app remains  
functional and I have not experienced any loss of work.  So I would  
personally not shy away from the OS upgrade due to LyX fears.


Now if you are a software developer, that is another story.  The 32  
bit to 64 bit transition can be a bit painful!


James

Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

Somehow my last post was cut at the end, so here again the full text  
(I hope so):


So, now some interim report about me trying to compile lyx
on 10.6.

To sum up, I think I messed things up with QT.

First, I didn't find QT 4.3.3 on the QT/Nokia page, the
links to the archives there aim to quite empty ftp-servers
with QT3-versions on it.
So I downloaded the actual QT4.5.2 for Mac binary installer
and installed it. That was not a good thing to do.
Later I found the QT4.3.3 source-package by googling
around. I haven't installed this yet.

I tried to compile the lyx 1.6branch which I got via svn
(nice thing: 10.6 has svn already included now) following
the instructions of the INSTALL.MACOSX file.

Well, configuring always fails as it cannot find the
qt-directory.

I looked up where the 4.5.2 binary installs files:
Qt Designer, Qt Linguist: /Developer/Applications/Qt
Qt Documentation: /Developer/Documentation/Qt
Qt Examples: /Developer/Examples/Qt
Qt Plugins: /Developer/Applications/Qt/Plugins
Qt Frameworks: /Library/Frameworks
Qt Libraries: /usr/lib
qmake, moc, uic, etc.: /Developer/Tools/Qt (symlink to
/usr/bin, so they are really there)
Uninstall script: /Developer/Tools/uninstall-qt.py

I tried it with /usr/bin and /Developer/Tools/QT as
Qt-path-option of the configure command: Same result qt
directory not found.
So I thought about going one step back by removing 4.5.2
first and then compile 4.3.3, but:
The uninstall.py script runs fine and exits without error,
but it didn't remove anything.
As this does not work, I think I have to figure out every
single file that the binary installer placed onto my
harddrive. How nice that it installs to /usr/lib and
/usr/bin by default! *grml*
I stopped here and didn't do anything, before making all
that mess bigger.
In sum I warn everbody: Don't install the Qt 4.5.2 binary.

But maybe I should give 4.5.2 another try with another
path/to/Qt, any ideas?
Or can somebody tell me, how I easily remove 4.5.2 without
the uninstall.py script?

Thanks for your help.

BTW: Should I place further posts on the developer-list?


Johannes

Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

Somehow my last post was cut at the end, so here again the full text  
(I hope so):


So, now some interim report about me trying to compile lyx
on 10.6.

To sum up, I think I messed things up with QT.

First, I didn't find QT 4.3.3 on the QT/Nokia page, the
links to the archives there aim to quite empty ftp-servers
with QT3-versions on it.
So I downloaded the actual QT4.5.2 for Mac binary installer
and installed it. That was not a good thing to do.
Later I found the QT4.3.3 source-package by googling
around. I haven't installed this yet.

I tried to compile the lyx 1.6branch which I got via svn
(nice thing: 10.6 has svn already included now) following
the instructions of the INSTALL.MACOSX file.

Well, configuring always fails as it cannot find the
qt-directory.

I looked up where the 4.5.2 binary installs files:
Qt Designer, Qt Linguist: /Developer/Applications/Qt
Qt Documentation: /Developer/Documentation/Qt
Qt Examples: /Developer/Examples/Qt
Qt Plugins: /Developer/Applications/Qt/Plugins
Qt Frameworks: /Library/Frameworks
Qt Libraries: /usr/lib
qmake, moc, uic, etc.: /Developer/Tools/Qt (symlink to
/usr/bin, so they are really there)
Uninstall script: /Developer/Tools/uninstall-qt.py

I tried it with /usr/bin and /Developer/Tools/QT as
Qt-path-option of the configure command: Same result qt
directory not found.
So I thought about going one step back by removing 4.5.2
first and then compile 4.3.3, but:
The uninstall.py script runs fine and exits without error,
but it didn't remove anything.
As this does not work, I think I have to figure out every
single file that the binary installer placed onto my
harddrive. How nice that it installs to /usr/lib and
/usr/bin by default! *grml*
I stopped here and didn't do anything, before making all
that mess bigger.
In sum I warn everbody: Don't install the Qt 4.5.2 binary.

But maybe I should give 4.5.2 another try with another
path/to/Qt, any ideas?
Or can somebody tell me, how I easily remove 4.5.2 without
the uninstall.py script?

Thanks for your help.

BTW: Should I place further posts on the developer-list?


Johannes

Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

Somehow my last post was cut at the end, so here again the full text  
(I hope so):


So, now some interim report about me trying to compile lyx
on 10.6.

To sum up, I think I messed things up with QT.

First, I didn't find QT 4.3.3 on the QT/Nokia page, the
links to the "archives" there aim to quite empty ftp-servers
with QT3-versions on it.
So I downloaded the actual QT4.5.2 for Mac binary installer
and installed it. That was not a good thing to do.
Later I found the QT4.3.3 source-package by googling
around. I haven't installed this yet.

I tried to compile the lyx 1.6branch which I got via svn
(nice thing: 10.6 has svn already included now) following
the instructions of the INSTALL.MACOSX file.

Well, configuring always fails as it cannot find the
qt-directory.

I looked up where the 4.5.2 binary installs files:
Qt Designer, Qt Linguist: /Developer/Applications/Qt
Qt Documentation: /Developer/Documentation/Qt
Qt Examples: /Developer/Examples/Qt
Qt Plugins: /Developer/Applications/Qt/Plugins
Qt Frameworks: /Library/Frameworks
Qt Libraries: /usr/lib
qmake, moc, uic, etc.: /Developer/Tools/Qt (symlink to
/usr/bin, so they are really there)
Uninstall script: /Developer/Tools/uninstall-qt.py

I tried it with /usr/bin and /Developer/Tools/QT as
Qt-path-option of the configure command: Same result qt
directory not found.
So I thought about going one step back by removing 4.5.2
first and then compile 4.3.3, but:
The uninstall.py script runs fine and exits without error,
but it didn't remove anything.
As this does not work, I think I have to figure out every
single file that the binary installer placed onto my
harddrive. How nice that it installs to /usr/lib and
/usr/bin by default! *grml*
I stopped here and didn't do anything, before making all
that mess bigger.
In sum I warn everbody: Don't install the Qt 4.5.2 binary.

But maybe I should give 4.5.2 another try with another
path/to/Qt, any ideas?
Or can somebody tell me, how I easily remove 4.5.2 without
the uninstall.py script?

Thanks for your help.

BTW: Should I place further posts on the developer-list?


Johannes

Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

I have 1.6.3 and Snow Leopard on my Mac. Unfortunately the same  
problems appear as reported for 1.6.4.


Johannes

Am 03.09.2009 um 16:15 schrieb Julio Rojas:


Is this problem specifically linked to 1.6.4? Or will 1.6.3 present
it? I have Snow Leopard in my hand and 1.6.3 installed on my wife's
computer. Haven't installed the OS waiting for this problem to solve.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:16 AM, William Brayb...@math.umemat.maine.edu 
 wrote:
I am currently testing Lyx 1.6.4 under Snow Leopard, the official  
release.
(I got the binary from the Lyx server before it was taken off; it  
does have
the problem that Preferences is grayed out as a menu choice, but  
can be
opened using keys CMD + , . I have not noticed any other problems  
with Lyx

1.6.4?)
I created a generic Lyx file, typed a bunch of stuff and let it  
sit. After
about 5 minutes, a pop up window appeared reporting that Lyx  
crashed. My
console report looks alot like the one in the bug report (link  
below).
However, Lyx did not actually crash. After choosing Ignore, Lyx was  
still

running and I could continue to type, save, edit, etc, the file.
The crash reoccurs about every 5 minutes, which does correspond to  
the

autosave time set in preferences.
I turned off autosave and Lyx has not sent up another crash pop up  
as yet

(we are about 15 minutes in at this point.

This is just a follow up to the question of Knaus. I am going to  
continue to

use Lyx under Snow Leopard and see where it takes me.

Bill

On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:


Hello,

I ordered the new Mac OS Snowleopard this week and I wonder
if any of the Lyx-(Mac)-Developers has already tested Lyx
under a Developer- Version of Snowleopard?

Will the Lyx-Binary run on Snowleopard?
Anyway, I'll test it and post it here.

Johannes.



We are a bit short on Mac developers, so I doubt that you'll get an
authorative answer.

But, the good news is that I've heard of someone running LyX on
Snowleopard, the bad news is that I heard this by means of a bug  
report:


http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6168.

So, it'll be interesting whether this crash actually has to do  
something

with Snowleopard or not.

Vincent





--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

Now I found time to install Snow Leopard on my Mac.
I can confirm the behaviour reported here:

Lyx (1.6.3) starts up and as long as I just watch my document it keeps  
running without any errors.
When I type something and wait for the autosave to come into action, a  
pop up window appears with an error message that LyX crashed.
However if I simply click on ignore, I can work with my LyX document,  
as LyX itself still is running. So it might only be some subprocess  
which is crashed.
I can save changes via the save button. Although after pressing the  
button the pop up telling my that LyX crashed appears again.
When I insert a table, the mentioned popup window appears, too. So it  
seems that as soon as you start something which calls up a new menubar  
this process crashes, too.


All these crashes seem to have to with the fork() without exit() thing  
reported on trac, see the crashlog-excerpts below.


So is it useful if I try to compile Lyx on my own on 10.6? Or would  
this end up in the same crashing behaviour?
There are some changes/workarounds to do in the source code first,  
right?


Johannes

1)

Process: lyx [850]
Path:/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx
Identifier:  lyx
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type:   X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  lyx [800]

Date/Time:   2009-08-31 23:28:16.111 +0200
OS Version:  Mac OS X 10.6 (10A432)
Report Version:  6

Interval Since Last Report:  2022 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:   2
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   2
Anonymous UUID:  D124E21E- 
F546-47A6-9182-5346BDAEE239


Exception Type:  EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x, 0x
Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Application Specific Information:
USING_FORK_WITHOUT_EXEC_IS_NOT_SUPPORTED_BY_FILE_MANAGER
abort() called

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92a14972 __kill + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92a14964 kill$UNIX2003 + 32
2   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92aa7ba5 raise + 26
3   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92abdc5c abort + 93
…


2)

Process: lyx [904]
Path:/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx
Identifier:  lyx
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type:   X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  lyx [800]

Date/Time:   2009-08-31 23:52:05.910 +0200
OS Version:  Mac OS X 10.6 (10A432)
Report Version:  6

Interval Since Last Report:  1329 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:   1
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   1
Anonymous UUID:  D124E21E- 
F546-47A6-9182-5346BDAEE239


Exception Type:  EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x, 0x
Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Application Specific Information:
USING_FORK_WITHOUT_EXEC_IS_NOT_SUPPORTED_BY_FILE_MANAGER
abort() called

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92a14972 __kill + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92a14964 kill$UNIX2003 + 32
2   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92aa7ba5 raise + 26
3   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92abdc5c abort + 93
…

Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

I have 1.6.3 and Snow Leopard on my Mac. Unfortunately the same  
problems appear as reported for 1.6.4.


Johannes

Am 03.09.2009 um 16:15 schrieb Julio Rojas:


Is this problem specifically linked to 1.6.4? Or will 1.6.3 present
it? I have Snow Leopard in my hand and 1.6.3 installed on my wife's
computer. Haven't installed the OS waiting for this problem to solve.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:16 AM, William Brayb...@math.umemat.maine.edu 
 wrote:
I am currently testing Lyx 1.6.4 under Snow Leopard, the official  
release.
(I got the binary from the Lyx server before it was taken off; it  
does have
the problem that Preferences is grayed out as a menu choice, but  
can be
opened using keys CMD + , . I have not noticed any other problems  
with Lyx

1.6.4?)
I created a generic Lyx file, typed a bunch of stuff and let it  
sit. After
about 5 minutes, a pop up window appeared reporting that Lyx  
crashed. My
console report looks alot like the one in the bug report (link  
below).
However, Lyx did not actually crash. After choosing Ignore, Lyx was  
still

running and I could continue to type, save, edit, etc, the file.
The crash reoccurs about every 5 minutes, which does correspond to  
the

autosave time set in preferences.
I turned off autosave and Lyx has not sent up another crash pop up  
as yet

(we are about 15 minutes in at this point.

This is just a follow up to the question of Knaus. I am going to  
continue to

use Lyx under Snow Leopard and see where it takes me.

Bill

On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:


Hello,

I ordered the new Mac OS Snowleopard this week and I wonder
if any of the Lyx-(Mac)-Developers has already tested Lyx
under a Developer- Version of Snowleopard?

Will the Lyx-Binary run on Snowleopard?
Anyway, I'll test it and post it here.

Johannes.



We are a bit short on Mac developers, so I doubt that you'll get an
authorative answer.

But, the good news is that I've heard of someone running LyX on
Snowleopard, the bad news is that I heard this by means of a bug  
report:


http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6168.

So, it'll be interesting whether this crash actually has to do  
something

with Snowleopard or not.

Vincent





--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

Now I found time to install Snow Leopard on my Mac.
I can confirm the behaviour reported here:

Lyx (1.6.3) starts up and as long as I just watch my document it keeps  
running without any errors.
When I type something and wait for the autosave to come into action, a  
pop up window appears with an error message that LyX crashed.
However if I simply click on ignore, I can work with my LyX document,  
as LyX itself still is running. So it might only be some subprocess  
which is crashed.
I can save changes via the save button. Although after pressing the  
button the pop up telling my that LyX crashed appears again.
When I insert a table, the mentioned popup window appears, too. So it  
seems that as soon as you start something which calls up a new menubar  
this process crashes, too.


All these crashes seem to have to with the fork() without exit() thing  
reported on trac, see the crashlog-excerpts below.


So is it useful if I try to compile Lyx on my own on 10.6? Or would  
this end up in the same crashing behaviour?
There are some changes/workarounds to do in the source code first,  
right?


Johannes

1)

Process: lyx [850]
Path:/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx
Identifier:  lyx
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type:   X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  lyx [800]

Date/Time:   2009-08-31 23:28:16.111 +0200
OS Version:  Mac OS X 10.6 (10A432)
Report Version:  6

Interval Since Last Report:  2022 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:   2
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   2
Anonymous UUID:  D124E21E- 
F546-47A6-9182-5346BDAEE239


Exception Type:  EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x, 0x
Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Application Specific Information:
USING_FORK_WITHOUT_EXEC_IS_NOT_SUPPORTED_BY_FILE_MANAGER
abort() called

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92a14972 __kill + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92a14964 kill$UNIX2003 + 32
2   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92aa7ba5 raise + 26
3   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92abdc5c abort + 93
…


2)

Process: lyx [904]
Path:/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx
Identifier:  lyx
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type:   X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  lyx [800]

Date/Time:   2009-08-31 23:52:05.910 +0200
OS Version:  Mac OS X 10.6 (10A432)
Report Version:  6

Interval Since Last Report:  1329 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:   1
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   1
Anonymous UUID:  D124E21E- 
F546-47A6-9182-5346BDAEE239


Exception Type:  EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x, 0x
Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Application Specific Information:
USING_FORK_WITHOUT_EXEC_IS_NOT_SUPPORTED_BY_FILE_MANAGER
abort() called

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92a14972 __kill + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92a14964 kill$UNIX2003 + 32
2   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92aa7ba5 raise + 26
3   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92abdc5c abort + 93
…

Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

I have 1.6.3 and Snow Leopard on my Mac. Unfortunately the same  
problems appear as reported for 1.6.4.


Johannes

Am 03.09.2009 um 16:15 schrieb Julio Rojas:


Is this problem specifically linked to 1.6.4? Or will 1.6.3 present
it? I have Snow Leopard in my hand and 1.6.3 installed on my wife's
computer. Haven't installed the OS waiting for this problem to solve.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:16 AM, William Bray wrote:
I am currently testing Lyx 1.6.4 under Snow Leopard, the official  
release.
(I got the binary from the Lyx server before it was taken off; it  
does have
the problem that Preferences is grayed out as a menu choice, but  
can be
opened using keys CMD + , . I have not noticed any other problems  
with Lyx

1.6.4?)
I created a generic Lyx file, typed a bunch of stuff and let it  
sit. After
about 5 minutes, a pop up window appeared reporting that Lyx  
crashed. My
console report looks alot like the one in the bug report (link  
below).
However, Lyx did not actually crash. After choosing Ignore, Lyx was  
still

running and I could continue to type, save, edit, etc, the file.
The crash reoccurs about every 5 minutes, which does correspond to  
the

autosave time set in preferences.
I turned off autosave and Lyx has not sent up another crash pop up  
as yet

(we are about 15 minutes in at this point.

This is just a follow up to the question of Knaus. I am going to  
continue to

use Lyx under Snow Leopard and see where it takes me.

Bill

On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:


Hello,

I ordered the new Mac OS Snowleopard this week and I wonder
if any of the Lyx-(Mac)-Developers has already tested Lyx
under a Developer- Version of Snowleopard?

Will the Lyx-Binary run on Snowleopard?
Anyway, I'll test it and post it here.

Johannes.



We are a bit short on Mac developers, so I doubt that you'll get an
authorative answer.

But, the good news is that I've heard of someone running LyX on
Snowleopard, the bad news is that I heard this by means of a bug  
report:


http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6168.

So, it'll be interesting whether this crash actually has to do  
something

with Snowleopard or not.

Vincent





--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"
Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one  
night." (Charlie Brown)

Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

Now I found time to install Snow Leopard on my Mac.
I can confirm the behaviour reported here:

Lyx (1.6.3) starts up and as long as I just watch my document it keeps  
running without any errors.
When I type something and wait for the autosave to come into action, a  
pop up window appears with an error message that LyX crashed.
However if I simply click on ignore, I can work with my LyX document,  
as LyX itself still is running. So it might only be some subprocess  
which is crashed.
I can save changes via the save button. Although after pressing the  
button the pop up telling my that LyX crashed appears again.
When I insert a table, the mentioned popup window appears, too. So it  
seems that as soon as you start something which calls up a new menubar  
this process crashes, too.


All these crashes seem to have to with the fork() without exit() thing  
reported on trac, see the crashlog-excerpts below.


So is it useful if I try to compile Lyx on my own on 10.6? Or would  
this end up in the same crashing behaviour?
There are some changes/workarounds to do in the source code first,  
right?


Johannes

1)

Process: lyx [850]
Path:/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx
Identifier:  lyx
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type:   X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  lyx [800]

Date/Time:   2009-08-31 23:28:16.111 +0200
OS Version:  Mac OS X 10.6 (10A432)
Report Version:  6

Interval Since Last Report:  2022 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:   2
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   2
Anonymous UUID:  D124E21E- 
F546-47A6-9182-5346BDAEE239


Exception Type:  EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x, 0x
Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Application Specific Information:
USING_FORK_WITHOUT_EXEC_IS_NOT_SUPPORTED_BY_FILE_MANAGER
abort() called

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92a14972 __kill + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92a14964 kill$UNIX2003 + 32
2   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92aa7ba5 raise + 26
3   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92abdc5c abort + 93
…


2)

Process: lyx [904]
Path:/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx
Identifier:  lyx
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type:   X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  lyx [800]

Date/Time:   2009-08-31 23:52:05.910 +0200
OS Version:  Mac OS X 10.6 (10A432)
Report Version:  6

Interval Since Last Report:  1329 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:   1
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   1
Anonymous UUID:  D124E21E- 
F546-47A6-9182-5346BDAEE239


Exception Type:  EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x, 0x
Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Application Specific Information:
USING_FORK_WITHOUT_EXEC_IS_NOT_SUPPORTED_BY_FILE_MANAGER
abort() called

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92a14972 __kill + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92a14964 kill$UNIX2003 + 32
2   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92aa7ba5 raise + 26
3   libSystem.B.dylib   0x92abdc5c abort + 93
…

Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello again,

My Snow Leopard DVD just arrived, so I'm starting my testing today.
My question now to the developers around:
I'm by far no developer but I successfully compiled some unix apps on  
my own. So I would try to build a 10.6-Lyx on my own (well slowly, as  
I find time).
What prerequisites do I need (QT, which version?) or do you think  
that's by far too complicated?


BTW, I found out that there's a QT-bug within the QT from Macports  
which is not in the original QT, see:

http://trac.macports.org/ticket/20435
http://trac.macports.org/ticket/20937

Johannes

Is this a hard thing to
Am 31.08.2009 um 09:56 schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW:


I am currently testing Lyx 1.6.4 under Snow Leopard,
the official release. After about 5 minutes, a pop up
window appeared reporting that Lyx crashed. My console
report looks alot like the one in the bug report (link
below).


Thanks for the info and confirmation of bug 6160. It will be difficult
to fix this as, I guess, we don't have a developer using Snow Leopard.
So, if you have any hints, please let us know.


Bill


Vincent

Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello again,

My Snow Leopard DVD just arrived, so I'm starting my testing today.
My question now to the developers around:
I'm by far no developer but I successfully compiled some unix apps on  
my own. So I would try to build a 10.6-Lyx on my own (well slowly, as  
I find time).
What prerequisites do I need (QT, which version?) or do you think  
that's by far too complicated?


BTW, I found out that there's a QT-bug within the QT from Macports  
which is not in the original QT, see:

http://trac.macports.org/ticket/20435
http://trac.macports.org/ticket/20937

Johannes

Is this a hard thing to
Am 31.08.2009 um 09:56 schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW:


I am currently testing Lyx 1.6.4 under Snow Leopard,
the official release. After about 5 minutes, a pop up
window appeared reporting that Lyx crashed. My console
report looks alot like the one in the bug report (link
below).


Thanks for the info and confirmation of bug 6160. It will be difficult
to fix this as, I guess, we don't have a developer using Snow Leopard.
So, if you have any hints, please let us know.


Bill


Vincent

Re: Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello again,

My Snow Leopard DVD just arrived, so I'm starting my testing today.
My question now to the developers around:
I'm by far no developer but I successfully compiled some unix apps on  
my own. So I would try to build a 10.6-Lyx on my own (well slowly, as  
I find time).
What prerequisites do I need (QT, which version?) or do you think  
that's by far too complicated?


BTW, I found out that there's a QT-bug within the QT from Macports  
which is not in the original QT, see:

http://trac.macports.org/ticket/20435
http://trac.macports.org/ticket/20937

Johannes

Is this a hard thing to
Am 31.08.2009 um 09:56 schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW:


I am currently testing Lyx 1.6.4 under Snow Leopard,
the official release. After about 5 minutes, a pop up
window appeared reporting that Lyx crashed. My console
report looks alot like the one in the bug report (link
below).


Thanks for the info and confirmation of bug 6160. It will be difficult
to fix this as, I guess, we don't have a developer using Snow Leopard.
So, if you have any hints, please let us know.


Bill


Vincent

Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I ordered the new Mac OS Snowleopard this week and I wonder if any of  
the Lyx-(Mac)-Developers has already tested Lyx under a Developer- 
Version of Snowleopard?

Will the Lyx-Binary run on Snowleopard?
Anyway, I'll test it and post it here.

Johannes.

Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I ordered the new Mac OS Snowleopard this week and I wonder if any of  
the Lyx-(Mac)-Developers has already tested Lyx under a Developer- 
Version of Snowleopard?

Will the Lyx-Binary run on Snowleopard?
Anyway, I'll test it and post it here.

Johannes.

Will Lyx run on Mac OS X 10.6?

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I ordered the new Mac OS Snowleopard this week and I wonder if any of  
the Lyx-(Mac)-Developers has already tested Lyx under a Developer- 
Version of Snowleopard?

Will the Lyx-Binary run on Snowleopard?
Anyway, I'll test it and post it here.

Johannes.

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Yes! That does it!

A big Thank You from Johannes.


Am 12.08.2009 um 10:33 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:


Johannes Knaus wrote:

After some days of playing around I still haven't found a solution to
the problem. Indeed it seems a very tricky business.

It seems that \leftmargin is completely ignored:


There are two things to be considered here:

1. leftmargin is differentiated per indendation level (\leftmargini,
\leftmarginii, etc.)

2. \leftmargin needs to be set before the list starts.

Try something like:

\renewenvironment{example}{%
\setlength\leftmargini{3.05em}
\begin{examples}%
\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}%
\item}
{\end{examples}}

HTH,
Jürgen

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Yes! That does it!

A big Thank You from Johannes.


Am 12.08.2009 um 10:33 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:


Johannes Knaus wrote:

After some days of playing around I still haven't found a solution to
the problem. Indeed it seems a very tricky business.

It seems that \leftmargin is completely ignored:


There are two things to be considered here:

1. leftmargin is differentiated per indendation level (\leftmargini,
\leftmarginii, etc.)

2. \leftmargin needs to be set before the list starts.

Try something like:

\renewenvironment{example}{%
\setlength\leftmargini{3.05em}
\begin{examples}%
\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}%
\item}
{\end{examples}}

HTH,
Jürgen

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Yes! That does it!

A big Thank You from Johannes.


Am 12.08.2009 um 10:33 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:


Johannes Knaus wrote:

After some days of playing around I still haven't found a solution to
the problem. Indeed it seems a very tricky business.

It seems that \leftmargin is completely ignored:


There are two things to be considered here:

1. leftmargin is differentiated per indendation level (\leftmargini,
\leftmarginii, etc.)

2. \leftmargin needs to be set before the list starts.

Try something like:

\renewenvironment{example}{%
\setlength\leftmargini{3.05em}
\begin{examples}%
\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}%
\item}
{\end{examples}}

HTH,
Jürgen

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello again,

After some days of playing around I still haven't found a solution to  
the problem. Indeed it seems a very tricky business.


It seems that \leftmargin is completely ignored:

\setlength{\leftmargin}{2pt}
or
\setlength{\leftmargin}{92pt}

do not change anything in the pdf-output.

The labels are still standing out/are not aligned with the leftmargin  
of the main text.

Here's the whole relevant part of the preamble:

%correctly adjustment of covington examples
\renewenvironment{example}{%
\begin{examples}
\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}
\setlength{\leftmargin}{92pt}
\item}
{\end{examples}}

Can you/someone help me?

Johannes



Am 06.08.2009 um 19:21 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:


Johannes Knaus wrote:

I added these lines to the preamble and now the numbers are correctly
indented but on the beginning/the left side they stand out a little
bit, seen from the left textborder.
That isn't the case without the lines above.


You need to play with other list values such as \leftmargin.  
Adjusting lists

can be a tricky business.

Jürgen

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello again,

After some days of playing around I still haven't found a solution to  
the problem. Indeed it seems a very tricky business.


It seems that \leftmargin is completely ignored:

\setlength{\leftmargin}{2pt}
or
\setlength{\leftmargin}{92pt}

do not change anything in the pdf-output.

The labels are still standing out/are not aligned with the leftmargin  
of the main text.

Here's the whole relevant part of the preamble:

%correctly adjustment of covington examples
\renewenvironment{example}{%
\begin{examples}
\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}
\setlength{\leftmargin}{92pt}
\item}
{\end{examples}}

Can you/someone help me?

Johannes



Am 06.08.2009 um 19:21 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:


Johannes Knaus wrote:

I added these lines to the preamble and now the numbers are correctly
indented but on the beginning/the left side they stand out a little
bit, seen from the left textborder.
That isn't the case without the lines above.


You need to play with other list values such as \leftmargin.  
Adjusting lists

can be a tricky business.

Jürgen

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello again,

After some days of playing around I still haven't found a solution to  
the problem. Indeed it seems a very tricky business.


It seems that \leftmargin is completely ignored:

\setlength{\leftmargin}{2pt}
or
\setlength{\leftmargin}{92pt}

do not change anything in the pdf-output.

The labels are still standing out/are not aligned with the leftmargin  
of the main text.

Here's the whole relevant part of the preamble:

%correctly adjustment of covington examples
\renewenvironment{example}{%
\begin{examples}
\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}
\setlength{\leftmargin}{92pt}
\item}
{\end{examples}}

Can you/someone help me?

Johannes



Am 06.08.2009 um 19:21 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:


Johannes Knaus wrote:

I added these lines to the preamble and now the numbers are correctly
indented but on the beginning/the left side they stand out a little
bit, seen from the left textborder.
That isn't the case without the lines above.


You need to play with other list values such as \leftmargin.  
Adjusting lists

can be a tricky business.

Jürgen

Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I've got a problem with the example-numbering in the linguistics  
module:


I use the example-style to refer to OT-constraint definition  
(linguists may know what I'm talking about).

Basically it always looks like this:

(3.1) Constraint Name linebreak
  Constraint Definition

This works fine and the two words Constraint are perfectly aligned  
under each other, i.e. have the same indentation (obviously better  
than in this email ;-).


The problem occurs in a chapter (maybe I should note that I use KOMA- 
script book) where the counter grows above 9.

This looks roughly like this:

(3.10) Constraint Name linebreak
   Constraint Definition

So the indentation of the second line is to small. It seems that it is  
aligned in the same depth as if the counter consisted of only one  
number.


Can I correct this? How?

Thanks for replying.

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 06.08.2009 um 13:32 schrieb Nikos Alexandris:


JFYI,

gedit (GNOME's default text editor) has the Alt+Arrow(s) option to  
move

selected line_s_ of text. I find it very convenient.

Nikos



This could be a nice alternative IMHO.

Surely, another shortcut is needed, as Alt+Arrow is jump to the end  
of the next word on the Mac.

So Ctrl+arrow and Alt+arrow do the same right now on a Mac.

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Well, the thing with the shortcuts:

Ubuntu: Ctrl+X == Mac: Cmd+X (=the Command-Key, old Mac users still  
call it Apple-Key although there is no Apple on it any more but a  
kind of knot)

and so on.

Ah:
I just tried it in Lyx on MacOSX:
Alt+arrow and Ctrl+arrow do the same thing in Lyx.

In Openoffice on MacOSX they behave differently (right arrow here):
Alt+arrow == jump to the end of the next word
Ctrl+arrow == no function, just as arrows alone
Command+arrow == jump to end of the line

Anyway, when I work with the GIMP on a Mac I have to use Ctrl+X  
instead of Cmd+X, as GIMP runs in a seperate X.org on a Mac.


My Mac-only Editor uses Ctrl/Cmd or Alt+X to jump to the line endings.

I have to learn shortcuts for each App. And when I switch Apps or even  
more when I switch OSes (what I frequently do: I work on a Mac, in the  
Lab we've got a WindowsXP-PC and my Netbook is running Ubuntu) I mix  
it up frequently.


So maybe that's why I prefer to use a mouse: Every program uses  
different shortcuts but the mouse (nearly) always does what I intend.


Greets,
Johannes

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Can I correct this? How?


\renewenvironment{example}{%
\begin{examples}\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}\item}
{\end{examples}}

Jürgen


I added these lines to the preamble and now the numbers are correctly  
indented but on the beginning/the left side they stand out a little  
bit, seen from the left textborder.

That isn't the case without the lines above.

Roughly, it looks like this:

  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text

(3.10)  Example
 Example

  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text



Grüße,

Johannes

Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I've got a problem with the example-numbering in the linguistics  
module:


I use the example-style to refer to OT-constraint definition  
(linguists may know what I'm talking about).

Basically it always looks like this:

(3.1) Constraint Name linebreak
  Constraint Definition

This works fine and the two words Constraint are perfectly aligned  
under each other, i.e. have the same indentation (obviously better  
than in this email ;-).


The problem occurs in a chapter (maybe I should note that I use KOMA- 
script book) where the counter grows above 9.

This looks roughly like this:

(3.10) Constraint Name linebreak
   Constraint Definition

So the indentation of the second line is to small. It seems that it is  
aligned in the same depth as if the counter consisted of only one  
number.


Can I correct this? How?

Thanks for replying.

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 06.08.2009 um 13:32 schrieb Nikos Alexandris:


JFYI,

gedit (GNOME's default text editor) has the Alt+Arrow(s) option to  
move

selected line_s_ of text. I find it very convenient.

Nikos



This could be a nice alternative IMHO.

Surely, another shortcut is needed, as Alt+Arrow is jump to the end  
of the next word on the Mac.

So Ctrl+arrow and Alt+arrow do the same right now on a Mac.

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Well, the thing with the shortcuts:

Ubuntu: Ctrl+X == Mac: Cmd+X (=the Command-Key, old Mac users still  
call it Apple-Key although there is no Apple on it any more but a  
kind of knot)

and so on.

Ah:
I just tried it in Lyx on MacOSX:
Alt+arrow and Ctrl+arrow do the same thing in Lyx.

In Openoffice on MacOSX they behave differently (right arrow here):
Alt+arrow == jump to the end of the next word
Ctrl+arrow == no function, just as arrows alone
Command+arrow == jump to end of the line

Anyway, when I work with the GIMP on a Mac I have to use Ctrl+X  
instead of Cmd+X, as GIMP runs in a seperate X.org on a Mac.


My Mac-only Editor uses Ctrl/Cmd or Alt+X to jump to the line endings.

I have to learn shortcuts for each App. And when I switch Apps or even  
more when I switch OSes (what I frequently do: I work on a Mac, in the  
Lab we've got a WindowsXP-PC and my Netbook is running Ubuntu) I mix  
it up frequently.


So maybe that's why I prefer to use a mouse: Every program uses  
different shortcuts but the mouse (nearly) always does what I intend.


Greets,
Johannes

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Can I correct this? How?


\renewenvironment{example}{%
\begin{examples}\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}\item}
{\end{examples}}

Jürgen


I added these lines to the preamble and now the numbers are correctly  
indented but on the beginning/the left side they stand out a little  
bit, seen from the left textborder.

That isn't the case without the lines above.

Roughly, it looks like this:

  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text

(3.10)  Example
 Example

  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text



Grüße,

Johannes

Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I've got a problem with the "example"-numbering in the linguistics  
module:


I use the example-style to refer to OT-constraint definition  
(linguists may know what I'm talking about).

Basically it always looks like this:

(3.1) Constraint Name 
  Constraint Definition

This works fine and the two words "Constraint" are perfectly aligned  
under each other, i.e. have the same indentation (obviously better  
than in this email ;-).


The problem occurs in a chapter (maybe I should note that I use KOMA- 
script book) where the counter grows above 9.

This looks roughly like this:

(3.10) Constraint Name 
   Constraint Definition

So the indentation of the second line is to small. It seems that it is  
aligned in the same depth as if the counter consisted of only one  
number.


Can I correct this? How?

Thanks for replying.

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 06.08.2009 um 13:32 schrieb Nikos Alexandris:


JFYI,

gedit (GNOME's default text editor) has the Alt+Arrow(s) option to  
move

selected line_s_ of text. I find it very convenient.

Nikos



This could be a nice alternative IMHO.

Surely, another shortcut is needed, as Alt+Arrow is "jump to the end  
of the next word" on the Mac.

So Ctrl+arrow and Alt+arrow do the same right now on a Mac.

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Well, the thing with the shortcuts:

Ubuntu: Ctrl+X == Mac: Cmd+X (=the Command-Key, old Mac users still  
call it "Apple-Key" although there is no Apple on it any more but a  
kind of knot)

and so on.

Ah:
I just tried it in Lyx on MacOSX:
Alt+arrow and Ctrl+arrow do the same thing in Lyx.

In Openoffice on MacOSX they behave differently (right arrow here):
Alt+arrow == jump to the end of the next word
Ctrl+arrow == no function, just as arrows alone
Command+arrow == jump to end of the line

Anyway, when I work with the GIMP on a Mac I have to use Ctrl+X  
instead of Cmd+X, as GIMP runs in a seperate X.org on a Mac.


My Mac-only Editor uses Ctrl/Cmd or Alt+X to jump to the line endings.

I have to learn shortcuts for each App. And when I switch Apps or even  
more when I switch OSes (what I frequently do: I work on a Mac, in the  
Lab we've got a WindowsXP-PC and my Netbook is running Ubuntu) I mix  
it up frequently.


So maybe that's why I prefer to use a mouse: Every program uses  
different shortcuts but the mouse (nearly) always does what I intend.


Greets,
Johannes

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Can I correct this? How?


\renewenvironment{example}{%
\begin{examples}\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}\item}
{\end{examples}}

Jürgen


I added these lines to the preamble and now the numbers are correctly  
indented but on the beginning/the left side they stand out a little  
bit, seen from the left textborder.

That isn't the case without the lines above.

Roughly, it looks like this:

  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text

(3.10)  Example
 Example

  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text



Grüße,

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

First of all, I simply didn't realize that mouse drag'n'drop did not  
work in Lyx and thought this could maybe a platform specific issue,  
not a general one.



On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 11:43 -0400, Michael Joyner:
Drag and drop text is one the most annoying things I have found  
with

word processors.
It is too easy to do it by accident, not notice, and output garbage
for people to read.



I can't imagine how one could mark some text with the mouse hold-and- 
click it and drag it around by accident.


I think the discussion on going on here is somewhat dogmatic. Many  
people use Ctrl+X and then Ctrl+V to shift textparts around. That's  
o.k. and that's what I do as I have no other chance in Lyx to do this.
My point is: Drag and drop is something many Mac Users (I am one) and  
Windows users may be very used to in everyday work. So implementing  
this feature would make Lyx a little easier to work with when you are  
new to Lyx.
Those who don't like drag and drop are not forced to use it, it would  
be just another editing option (maybe to be activated or deactivated  
via GUI). Still, I don't see the problem in having this feature – if  
you want to use it, use it, if not, don't. I don't think this can  
create any trouble by accident.


It certainly would be a problem, if implementing this feature really  
costs a lot of time. I simply don't know this as I'm not a programmer.


Another thing is that is maybe not the most urgent feature on the Lyx- 
feature-wish-list. That's o.k. It was only a question.

Still, voting for it is legitimate.

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

First of all, I simply didn't realize that mouse drag'n'drop did not  
work in Lyx and thought this could maybe a platform specific issue,  
not a general one.



On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 11:43 -0400, Michael Joyner:
Drag and drop text is one the most annoying things I have found  
with

word processors.
It is too easy to do it by accident, not notice, and output garbage
for people to read.



I can't imagine how one could mark some text with the mouse hold-and- 
click it and drag it around by accident.


I think the discussion on going on here is somewhat dogmatic. Many  
people use Ctrl+X and then Ctrl+V to shift textparts around. That's  
o.k. and that's what I do as I have no other chance in Lyx to do this.
My point is: Drag and drop is something many Mac Users (I am one) and  
Windows users may be very used to in everyday work. So implementing  
this feature would make Lyx a little easier to work with when you are  
new to Lyx.
Those who don't like drag and drop are not forced to use it, it would  
be just another editing option (maybe to be activated or deactivated  
via GUI). Still, I don't see the problem in having this feature – if  
you want to use it, use it, if not, don't. I don't think this can  
create any trouble by accident.


It certainly would be a problem, if implementing this feature really  
costs a lot of time. I simply don't know this as I'm not a programmer.


Another thing is that is maybe not the most urgent feature on the Lyx- 
feature-wish-list. That's o.k. It was only a question.

Still, voting for it is legitimate.

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

First of all, I simply didn't realize that mouse drag'n'drop did not  
work in Lyx and thought this could maybe a platform specific issue,  
not a general one.



On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 11:43 -0400, Michael Joyner:
"Drag and drop" text is one the most annoying things I have found  
with

word processors.
It is too easy to do it by accident, not notice, and output garbage
for people to read.



I can't imagine how one could mark some text with the mouse hold-and- 
click it and drag it around by accident.


I think the discussion on going on here is somewhat dogmatic. Many  
people use Ctrl+X and then Ctrl+V to shift textparts around. That's  
o.k. and that's what I do as I have no other chance in Lyx to do this.
My point is: Drag and drop is something many Mac Users (I am one) and  
Windows users may be very used to in everyday work. So implementing  
this feature would make Lyx a little easier to work with when you are  
new to Lyx.
Those who don't like drag and drop are not forced to use it, it would  
be just another editing option (maybe to be activated or deactivated  
via GUI). Still, I don't see the problem in having this feature – if  
you want to use it, use it, if not, don't. I don't think this can  
create any trouble by accident.


It certainly would be a problem, if implementing this feature really  
costs a lot of time. I simply don't know this as I'm not a programmer.


Another thing is that is maybe not the most urgent feature on the Lyx- 
feature-wish-list. That's o.k. It was only a question.

Still, voting for it is legitimate.

Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

Maybe a stupid question:
But I realized that I can select/mark a sentence with the mouse, but I  
cannot drag this selected sentence around in Lyx, e.g. placing it in  
the paragraph above. Everytime I try this the sentence is deselected.
As I don't remember well: Is this behaviour expected in Lyx or is it a  
bug? Do I have to press another button to drag and drop?


OS: Mac OSX 10.5 (Intel)
Lyx: 1.6.3

Thanks for your help.

Johannes
--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Let's call it a missing feature.

Personally, I'd prefer to cutpaste anyway.

Vincent



So, would this be a good idea to propose this for future Lyx versions?
I'm not a programmer, so I really can't even guess how much work this  
would mean.
IMHO this would be really a nice feature. I'm quite used to it; in  
nearly all Applications I regularly use (even in the Editor I use for  
basic python scripts) I can do this internal drag and drop.


How do others think about this?

Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

Maybe a stupid question:
But I realized that I can select/mark a sentence with the mouse, but I  
cannot drag this selected sentence around in Lyx, e.g. placing it in  
the paragraph above. Everytime I try this the sentence is deselected.
As I don't remember well: Is this behaviour expected in Lyx or is it a  
bug? Do I have to press another button to drag and drop?


OS: Mac OSX 10.5 (Intel)
Lyx: 1.6.3

Thanks for your help.

Johannes
--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Let's call it a missing feature.

Personally, I'd prefer to cutpaste anyway.

Vincent



So, would this be a good idea to propose this for future Lyx versions?
I'm not a programmer, so I really can't even guess how much work this  
would mean.
IMHO this would be really a nice feature. I'm quite used to it; in  
nearly all Applications I regularly use (even in the Editor I use for  
basic python scripts) I can do this internal drag and drop.


How do others think about this?

Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

Maybe a stupid question:
But I realized that I can select/mark a sentence with the mouse, but I  
cannot drag this selected sentence around in Lyx, e.g. placing it in  
the paragraph above. Everytime I try this the sentence is deselected.
As I don't remember well: Is this behaviour expected in Lyx or is it a  
bug? Do I have to press another button to drag and drop?


OS: Mac OSX 10.5 (Intel)
Lyx: 1.6.3

Thanks for your help.

Johannes
--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"
Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one  
night." (Charlie Brown)

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Let's call it a missing feature.

Personally, I'd prefer to cut anyway.

Vincent



So, would this be a good idea to propose this for future Lyx versions?
I'm not a programmer, so I really can't even guess how much work this  
would mean.
IMHO this would be really a nice feature. I'm quite used to it; in  
nearly all Applications I regularly use (even in the Editor I use for  
basic python scripts) I can do this internal drag and drop.


How do others think about this?

Re: scrbook and width of float

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 14.05.2009 um 21:06 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:

Tables cannot be broken horizontally when they are too wide,  
therefore your float is too wide. So you have to assure that the  
table fits the width. I corrected your example see attached.


So, if I understand the whole thing right, if I insert a figure, I can  
set it to 100% col but if I insert a table I can only set the width- 
percentages for each table column not for the whole table. Is that  
right? So if I have a table with let's say 10 columns, I have to set  
each column to 10% of the textwidth? Or is there an easier way?





When you are using figure floats, set the figure width to max. 100  
col% and the float will respect the text column width.







- you are using in your preamble many LaTeX-packages. Do you really  
need all of them? If not it is more safe to use only the packages  
one really needs.


Yes, I really need most of them. But some of them I only left them %ed  
inside the preamble, for my personal reference ;-)


- you have a table within a figure float, but probably only an  
oversight


No, but this is maybe a more general thing. I use tables in my example  
to properly set the stars in a vertical line above each other. I  
didn't know better. In a WYSWYG-Software I would use tabstops to get  
this formatting. But there is no easy way to achieve this in Lyx/ 
Latex, or – well – this may be my oversight.
I use figure floats because these really are – seen from their content  
– figures and not tables.
Do you have an idea how I can get the same formatting without using  
tables?


- figure captions are usually below the image while table captions  
are above the table


Yes, I changed this, as I thought it would be nicer to have all float  
captions above. Or is there a deeper typesetter's-sense of having them  
below for figures?


Thanks a lot for your help and comments, Uwe.

Best regards,
Johannes


--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

Re: scrbook and width of float

[Johannes Knaus]

No, but this is maybe a more general thing. I use tables in my  
example to properly set the stars in a vertical line above each  
other. I didn't know better. In a WYSWYG-Software I would use  
tabstops to get this formatting. But there is no easy way to  
achieve this in Lyx/Latex, or – well – this may be my oversight.
I use figure floats because these really are – seen from their  
content – figures and not tables.
Do you have an idea how I can get the same formatting without using  
tables?


I cannot follow you. What stars do you mean? Why do you need stars  
in a float and what is your desired output (do you have a screenshot  
or PDF from your WYSIWYG program)?


Well, the stars (*) in the LyX-file I posted. Here's a screenshot  
taken from OpenOffice with the tabstop solution:
inline: OOo.png


Regards,
Johannes

Re: scrbook and width of float

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 14.05.2009 um 21:06 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:

Tables cannot be broken horizontally when they are too wide,  
therefore your float is too wide. So you have to assure that the  
table fits the width. I corrected your example see attached.


So, if I understand the whole thing right, if I insert a figure, I can  
set it to 100% col but if I insert a table I can only set the width- 
percentages for each table column not for the whole table. Is that  
right? So if I have a table with let's say 10 columns, I have to set  
each column to 10% of the textwidth? Or is there an easier way?





When you are using figure floats, set the figure width to max. 100  
col% and the float will respect the text column width.







- you are using in your preamble many LaTeX-packages. Do you really  
need all of them? If not it is more safe to use only the packages  
one really needs.


Yes, I really need most of them. But some of them I only left them %ed  
inside the preamble, for my personal reference ;-)


- you have a table within a figure float, but probably only an  
oversight


No, but this is maybe a more general thing. I use tables in my example  
to properly set the stars in a vertical line above each other. I  
didn't know better. In a WYSWYG-Software I would use tabstops to get  
this formatting. But there is no easy way to achieve this in Lyx/ 
Latex, or – well – this may be my oversight.
I use figure floats because these really are – seen from their content  
– figures and not tables.
Do you have an idea how I can get the same formatting without using  
tables?


- figure captions are usually below the image while table captions  
are above the table


Yes, I changed this, as I thought it would be nicer to have all float  
captions above. Or is there a deeper typesetter's-sense of having them  
below for figures?


Thanks a lot for your help and comments, Uwe.

Best regards,
Johannes


--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

Re: scrbook and width of float

[Johannes Knaus]

No, but this is maybe a more general thing. I use tables in my  
example to properly set the stars in a vertical line above each  
other. I didn't know better. In a WYSWYG-Software I would use  
tabstops to get this formatting. But there is no easy way to  
achieve this in Lyx/Latex, or – well – this may be my oversight.
I use figure floats because these really are – seen from their  
content – figures and not tables.
Do you have an idea how I can get the same formatting without using  
tables?


I cannot follow you. What stars do you mean? Why do you need stars  
in a float and what is your desired output (do you have a screenshot  
or PDF from your WYSIWYG program)?


Well, the stars (*) in the LyX-file I posted. Here's a screenshot  
taken from OpenOffice with the tabstop solution:
inline: OOo.png


Regards,
Johannes

Re: scrbook and width of float

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 14.05.2009 um 21:06 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:

Tables cannot be broken horizontally when they are too wide,  
therefore your float is too wide. So you have to assure that the  
table fits the width. I corrected your example see attached.


So, if I understand the whole thing right, if I insert a figure, I can  
set it to 100% col but if I insert a table I can only set the width- 
percentages for each table column not for the whole table. Is that  
right? So if I have a table with let's say 10 columns, I have to set  
each column to 10% of the textwidth? Or is there an easier way?





When you are using figure floats, set the figure width to max. 100  
col% and the float will respect the text column width.







- you are using in your preamble many LaTeX-packages. Do you really  
need all of them? If not it is more safe to use only the packages  
one really needs.


Yes, I really need most of them. But some of them I only left them %ed  
inside the preamble, for my personal reference ;-)


- you have a table within a figure float, but probably only an  
oversight


No, but this is maybe a more general thing. I use tables in my example  
to properly set the stars in a vertical line above each other. I  
didn't know better. In a WYSWYG-Software I would use tabstops to get  
this formatting. But there is no easy way to achieve this in Lyx/ 
Latex, or – well – this may be my oversight.
I use figure floats because these really are – seen from their content  
– figures and not tables.
Do you have an idea how I can get the same formatting without using  
tables?


- figure captions are usually below the image while table captions  
are above the table


Yes, I changed this, as I thought it would be nicer to have all float  
captions above. Or is there a deeper typesetter's-sense of having them  
below for figures?


Thanks a lot for your help and comments, Uwe.

Best regards,
Johannes


--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"
Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one  
night." (Charlie Brown)

Re: scrbook and width of float

[Johannes Knaus]

No, but this is maybe a more general thing. I use tables in my  
example to properly set the stars in a vertical line above each  
other. I didn't know better. In a WYSWYG-Software I would use  
tabstops to get this formatting. But there is no easy way to  
achieve this in Lyx/Latex, or – well – this may be my oversight.
I use figure floats because these really are – seen from their  
content – figures and not tables.
Do you have an idea how I can get the same formatting without using  
tables?


I cannot follow you. What stars do you mean? Why do you need stars  
in a float and what is your desired output (do you have a screenshot  
or PDF from your WYSIWYG program)?


Well, the stars (*) in the LyX-file I posted. Here's a screenshot  
taken from OpenOffice with the tabstop solution:
<>


Regards,
Johannes

scrbook and width of float

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello Lyx Users,

I have a problem regarding the width of floats.
I'm currently writing my thesis using scrbook (DIV=calc option).
When I create a float (happens with all types of floats) and write  
something into it which is wider than the textwidth, it is simply  
cropped at the page border.
How can I set up my floats to generally respect textwidth and if the  
content of the float is wider than textwidth it uses either a smaller  
fontsize or wrapping?


Thanks for your help.

Johannes

Re: scrbook and width of float

[Johannes Knaus]

Oh, of course, here is an example:



testfile.lyx
Description: Binary data




Best regards,
Johannes



Am 14.05.2009 um 18:09 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:


Johannes Knaus schrieb:

How can I set up my floats to generally respect textwidth and if  
the content of the float is wider than textwidth it uses either a  
smaller fontsize or wrapping?


To be able to help you, can you please provide a _small_ LyX testcase?

regards Uwe


--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

scrbook and width of float

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello Lyx Users,

I have a problem regarding the width of floats.
I'm currently writing my thesis using scrbook (DIV=calc option).
When I create a float (happens with all types of floats) and write  
something into it which is wider than the textwidth, it is simply  
cropped at the page border.
How can I set up my floats to generally respect textwidth and if the  
content of the float is wider than textwidth it uses either a smaller  
fontsize or wrapping?


Thanks for your help.

Johannes

Re: scrbook and width of float

[Johannes Knaus]

Oh, of course, here is an example:



testfile.lyx
Description: Binary data




Best regards,
Johannes



Am 14.05.2009 um 18:09 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:


Johannes Knaus schrieb:

How can I set up my floats to generally respect textwidth and if  
the content of the float is wider than textwidth it uses either a  
smaller fontsize or wrapping?


To be able to help you, can you please provide a _small_ LyX testcase?

regards Uwe


--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

scrbook and width of float

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello Lyx Users,

I have a problem regarding the width of floats.
I'm currently writing my thesis using scrbook (DIV=calc option).
When I create a float (happens with all types of floats) and write  
something into it which is wider than the textwidth, it is simply  
cropped at the page border.
How can I set up my floats to generally respect textwidth and if the  
content of the float is wider than textwidth it uses either a smaller  
fontsize or wrapping?


Thanks for your help.

Johannes

Re: scrbook and width of float

[Johannes Knaus]

Oh, of course, here is an example:



testfile.lyx
Description: Binary data




Best regards,
Johannes



Am 14.05.2009 um 18:09 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:


Johannes Knaus schrieb:

How can I set up my floats to generally respect textwidth and if  
the content of the float is wider than textwidth it uses either a  
smaller fontsize or wrapping?


To be able to help you, can you please provide a _small_ LyX testcase?

regards Uwe


--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"
Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one  
night." (Charlie Brown)

Re: Someone uses my Bugzilla account

[Johannes Knaus]

I can assure you that it wasn't me. I haven't written the message.
I don't even know what that issue on Bugzilla was about.
Some month ago I  realized a small bug in the Mac rc-version of  Lyx  
which is fixed now (see http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5168).

That was the only thing I ever did in Bugzilla.
I never logged in since that time.

I don't think there's a virus on my Mac. I checked it using ClamAV.

Regards,
Johannes


Am 05.11.2008 um 15:01 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:


Johannes Knaus schrieb:


... i.e. that I'm posting the same message all the time in Bugzilla.
Well, I haven't used Bugzilla since a couple of weeks!
So, I suggest there's someone who uses my Bugzilla account.


I think it's you. You can post to bugzilla by replying emails you  
got from bugzilla. So either you accidentally replied several times  
by email (check your sent emails) or you have a computer virus that  
sends out emails. You can only test the latter by using antivirus  
software.


regards Uwe


--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

Someone uses my Bugzilla account

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

Stefan wrote me this mail yesterday:

Am 04.11.2008 um 16:04 schrieb Stefan Schimanski:


Hallo!

Du postest die ganze Zeit dieselbe Meldung im Bugzilla: 
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5447

Grüße
 Stefan


... i.e. that I'm posting the same message all the time in Bugzilla.

Well, I haven't used Bugzilla since a couple of weeks!
So, I suggest there's someone who uses my Bugzilla account.
That makes me upset.
I logged into Bugzilla now and changed my password, but I still feel  
insecure.
Is it possible to completely delete my Bugzilla account so I can  
create a new one if needed again?


Thanks,
Johannes



--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

Re: Someone uses my Bugzilla account

[Johannes Knaus]

I can assure you that it wasn't me. I haven't written the message.
I don't even know what that issue on Bugzilla was about.
Some month ago I  realized a small bug in the Mac rc-version of  Lyx  
which is fixed now (see http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5168).

That was the only thing I ever did in Bugzilla.
I never logged in since that time.

I don't think there's a virus on my Mac. I checked it using ClamAV.

Regards,
Johannes


Am 05.11.2008 um 15:01 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:


Johannes Knaus schrieb:


... i.e. that I'm posting the same message all the time in Bugzilla.
Well, I haven't used Bugzilla since a couple of weeks!
So, I suggest there's someone who uses my Bugzilla account.


I think it's you. You can post to bugzilla by replying emails you  
got from bugzilla. So either you accidentally replied several times  
by email (check your sent emails) or you have a computer virus that  
sends out emails. You can only test the latter by using antivirus  
software.


regards Uwe


--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

Someone uses my Bugzilla account

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

Stefan wrote me this mail yesterday:

Am 04.11.2008 um 16:04 schrieb Stefan Schimanski:


Hallo!

Du postest die ganze Zeit dieselbe Meldung im Bugzilla: 
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5447

Grüße
 Stefan


... i.e. that I'm posting the same message all the time in Bugzilla.

Well, I haven't used Bugzilla since a couple of weeks!
So, I suggest there's someone who uses my Bugzilla account.
That makes me upset.
I logged into Bugzilla now and changed my password, but I still feel  
insecure.
Is it possible to completely delete my Bugzilla account so I can  
create a new one if needed again?


Thanks,
Johannes



--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

Re: Someone uses my Bugzilla account

[Johannes Knaus]

I can assure you that it wasn't me. I haven't written the message.
I don't even know what that issue on Bugzilla was about.
Some month ago I  realized a small bug in the Mac rc-version of  Lyx  
which is fixed now (see http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5168).

That was the only thing I ever did in Bugzilla.
I never logged in since that time.

I don't think there's a virus on my Mac. I checked it using ClamAV.

Regards,
Johannes


Am 05.11.2008 um 15:01 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:


Johannes Knaus schrieb:


... i.e. that I'm posting the same message all the time in Bugzilla.
Well, I haven't used Bugzilla since a couple of weeks!
So, I suggest there's someone who uses my Bugzilla account.


I think it's you. You can post to bugzilla by replying emails you  
got from bugzilla. So either you accidentally replied several times  
by email (check your sent emails) or you have a computer virus that  
sends out emails. You can only test the latter by using antivirus  
software.


regards Uwe


--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"
Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one  
night." (Charlie Brown)

Someone uses my Bugzilla account

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

Stefan wrote me this mail yesterday:

Am 04.11.2008 um 16:04 schrieb Stefan Schimanski:


Hallo!

Du postest die ganze Zeit dieselbe Meldung im Bugzilla: 
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5447

Grüße
 Stefan


... i.e. that I'm posting the same message all the time in Bugzilla.

Well, I haven't used Bugzilla since a couple of weeks!
So, I suggest there's someone who uses my Bugzilla account.
That makes me upset.
I logged into Bugzilla now and changed my password, but I still feel  
insecure.
Is it possible to completely delete my Bugzilla account so I can  
create a new one if needed again?


Thanks,
Johannes



--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"
Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one  
night." (Charlie Brown)

Re: fully colored table cells with booktabs an colortbl

[Johannes Knaus]

Well, I tried the proposed solutions here but they didn't produce what  
I want.
Setting linespace to a negative value is generally an option but I  
have multiline input (linebreaks inside the table cells), so I need a  
little space between the horizontal lines and the content of the cell.  
But I want that space to be colored and not white. I could neither  
find something on this in the Embedded Objects Manual.

So, I post a small LyX file with the table, as Paul suggested.



booktabsncolor.lyx
Description: Binary data




Thanks for your help,

Johannes



Am 05.10.2008 um 02:44 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:


Johannes Knaus wrote:

Hello,
How can I achieve fully colored table cells using booktabs (i.e.  
formal table option) and colortbl?
When I put ERT \cellcolor{gray} inside a table cell it appears gray  
the output but there remains some white space between the gray box  
and the upper and lower table line (see attached screenshot).
Is it possible to fill the cell seemlessly / to color also this  
remaining white space?
Within the Additional Space dialog I have already set anything to  
None.


AFAIK it should fill the cell by default, unless something else is  
in play.  Can you post a small LyX file that produces your image?


/Paul

Re: fully colored table cells with booktabs an colortbl

[Johannes Knaus]

Well, I tried the proposed solutions here but they didn't produce what  
I want.
Setting linespace to a negative value is generally an option but I  
have multiline input (linebreaks inside the table cells), so I need a  
little space between the horizontal lines and the content of the cell.  
But I want that space to be colored and not white. I could neither  
find something on this in the Embedded Objects Manual.

So, I post a small LyX file with the table, as Paul suggested.



booktabsncolor.lyx
Description: Binary data




Thanks for your help,

Johannes



Am 05.10.2008 um 02:44 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:


Johannes Knaus wrote:

Hello,
How can I achieve fully colored table cells using booktabs (i.e.  
formal table option) and colortbl?
When I put ERT \cellcolor{gray} inside a table cell it appears gray  
the output but there remains some white space between the gray box  
and the upper and lower table line (see attached screenshot).
Is it possible to fill the cell seemlessly / to color also this  
remaining white space?
Within the Additional Space dialog I have already set anything to  
None.


AFAIK it should fill the cell by default, unless something else is  
in play.  Can you post a small LyX file that produces your image?


/Paul

Re: fully colored table cells with booktabs an colortbl

[Johannes Knaus]

Well, I tried the proposed solutions here but they didn't produce what  
I want.
Setting linespace to a negative value is generally an option but I  
have multiline input (linebreaks inside the table cells), so I need a  
little space between the horizontal lines and the content of the cell.  
But I want that space to be colored and not white. I could neither  
find something on this in the Embedded Objects Manual.

So, I post a small LyX file with the table, as Paul suggested.



booktabsncolor.lyx
Description: Binary data




Thanks for your help,

Johannes



Am 05.10.2008 um 02:44 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:


Johannes Knaus wrote:

Hello,
How can I achieve fully colored table cells using booktabs (i.e.  
"formal" table option) and colortbl?
When I put ERT \cellcolor{gray} inside a table cell it appears gray  
the output but there remains some white space between the gray box  
and the upper and lower table line (see attached screenshot).
Is it possible to fill the cell seemlessly / to color also this  
remaining white space?
Within the "Additional Space" dialog I have already set anything to  
"None".


AFAIK it should fill the cell by default, unless something else is  
in play.  Can you post a small LyX file that produces your image?


/Paul

Re: File open bug persists in 1.6rc3 - Mac

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 02.10.2008 um 18:42 schrieb James Sutherland:


To reproduce this problem (on Mac):

 From Finder, right-click (ctrl-click) on a file and choose Open  
With and then open using 1.6rc3.  This opens the file, but the lyx  
window that it opens in has none of the toolbars available.  The  
regular LyX window is also opened, but is empty.


If I close the file and re-open it from the Open Recent menu, then  
it works fine.


I seem to remember discussion of this topic when rc1 was released.   
It persists with rc2 and rc3.


Can any other Mac users verify this???

James


Hello James,

Yes, the bugs in the Mac version I reported some time ago (and added  
them to the bugtracker after the rc1or rc2 release) still persist.  
Hopefully this will be resolved in the final release. By the way even  
rc3 seems not to be very stable on my G4 (Lyx crashed while testing  
out if the bugs still remain). However, this is not the final  
candidate and I'll stick with 1.5.6 for my thesis.  When these little  
problems will be resolved in 1.6final, I'll switch immediately, as it  
has some very nice features.


The strange thing if I remember well the bug with the strange  
special menu wasn't there in the early betas before 1.6b4.


Johannes



Hello,

I've recognized some Problems in both Lyx 1.6b4 and rc1 on MacOS  
10.5 which I would like to report here. I don't know if these are  
bugs and/or platform specific; so here they are:


- When I start Lyx 1.6 and costumize the appearance settings via  
the Preferences... dialogue and then click on the Apply button  
or the Save button, a new item appears in the OSX menu bar  
labelled special with the menu items Preferences, About  
Lyx (both greyed out) and Quit Lyx. In the normal Lyx menu  
Reconfigure now appears two times and Preferences... isn't  
responsive any more. The only solution is to quit and restart Lyx  
via the special menu. Changes of preferences are lost then if you  
clicked Apply only.


- When I open a Lyx file by dragging it on the Lyx icon in the Dock  
the file is opened in an extra window without any toolbars and a  
second window opens with the toolbars in default arrangement (not  
the one costumized) but without any document in it. After this all  
costumized menu bar arrangements and prior window sizes are lost  
when restarting Lyx. The same thing happens when I open a Lyx file  
by doubleclicking on it.


But now some praise: The new autocompletion thing is really great!

Cheers,
Johannes

Re: File open bug persists in 1.6rc3 - Mac

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 02.10.2008 um 18:42 schrieb James Sutherland:


To reproduce this problem (on Mac):

 From Finder, right-click (ctrl-click) on a file and choose Open  
With and then open using 1.6rc3.  This opens the file, but the lyx  
window that it opens in has none of the toolbars available.  The  
regular LyX window is also opened, but is empty.


If I close the file and re-open it from the Open Recent menu, then  
it works fine.


I seem to remember discussion of this topic when rc1 was released.   
It persists with rc2 and rc3.


Can any other Mac users verify this???

James


Hello James,

Yes, the bugs in the Mac version I reported some time ago (and added  
them to the bugtracker after the rc1or rc2 release) still persist.  
Hopefully this will be resolved in the final release. By the way even  
rc3 seems not to be very stable on my G4 (Lyx crashed while testing  
out if the bugs still remain). However, this is not the final  
candidate and I'll stick with 1.5.6 for my thesis.  When these little  
problems will be resolved in 1.6final, I'll switch immediately, as it  
has some very nice features.


The strange thing if I remember well the bug with the strange  
special menu wasn't there in the early betas before 1.6b4.


Johannes



Hello,

I've recognized some Problems in both Lyx 1.6b4 and rc1 on MacOS  
10.5 which I would like to report here. I don't know if these are  
bugs and/or platform specific; so here they are:


- When I start Lyx 1.6 and costumize the appearance settings via  
the Preferences... dialogue and then click on the Apply button  
or the Save button, a new item appears in the OSX menu bar  
labelled special with the menu items Preferences, About  
Lyx (both greyed out) and Quit Lyx. In the normal Lyx menu  
Reconfigure now appears two times and Preferences... isn't  
responsive any more. The only solution is to quit and restart Lyx  
via the special menu. Changes of preferences are lost then if you  
clicked Apply only.


- When I open a Lyx file by dragging it on the Lyx icon in the Dock  
the file is opened in an extra window without any toolbars and a  
second window opens with the toolbars in default arrangement (not  
the one costumized) but without any document in it. After this all  
costumized menu bar arrangements and prior window sizes are lost  
when restarting Lyx. The same thing happens when I open a Lyx file  
by doubleclicking on it.


But now some praise: The new autocompletion thing is really great!

Cheers,
Johannes

Re: File open bug persists in 1.6rc3 - Mac

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 02.10.2008 um 18:42 schrieb James Sutherland:


To reproduce this problem (on Mac):

 From Finder, right-click (ctrl-click) on a file and choose "Open  
With" and then open using 1.6rc3.  This opens the file, but the lyx  
window that it opens in has none of the toolbars available.  The  
regular LyX window is also opened, but is empty.


If I close the file and re-open it from the "Open Recent" menu, then  
it works fine.


I seem to remember discussion of this topic when rc1 was released.   
It persists with rc2 and rc3.


Can any other Mac users verify this???

James


Hello James,

Yes, the bugs in the Mac version I reported some time ago (and added  
them to the bugtracker after the rc1or rc2 release) still persist.  
Hopefully this will be resolved in the final release. By the way even  
rc3 seems not to be very stable on my G4 (Lyx crashed while testing  
out if the bugs still remain). However, this is not the final  
candidate and I'll stick with 1.5.6 for my thesis.  When these little  
problems will be resolved in 1.6final, I'll switch immediately, as it  
has some very nice features.


The strange thing if I remember well the bug with the strange  
"special" menu wasn't there in the early betas before 1.6b4.


Johannes



Hello,

I've recognized some Problems in both Lyx 1.6b4 and rc1 on MacOS  
10.5 which I would like to report here. I don't know if these are  
bugs and/or platform specific; so here they are:


- When I start Lyx 1.6 and costumize the appearance settings via  
the "Preferences..." dialogue and then click on the "Apply" button  
or the "Save" button, a new item appears in the OSX menu bar  
labelled "special" with the menu items "Preferences", "About  
Lyx" (both greyed out) and "Quit Lyx". In the normal "Lyx" menu  
"Reconfigure" now appears two times and "Preferences..." isn't  
responsive any more. The only solution is to quit and restart Lyx  
via the "special" menu. Changes of preferences are lost then if you  
clicked "Apply" only.


- When I open a Lyx file by dragging it on the Lyx icon in the Dock  
the file is opened in an extra window without any toolbars and a  
second window opens with the toolbars in default arrangement (not  
the one costumized) but without any document in it. After this all  
costumized menu bar arrangements and prior window sizes are lost  
when restarting Lyx. The same thing happens when I open a Lyx file  
by doubleclicking on it.


But now some praise: The new autocompletion thing is really great!

Cheers,
Johannes

fully colored table cells with booktabs an colortbl

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

How can I achieve fully colored table cells using booktabs (i.e.  
formal table option) and colortbl?
When I put ERT \cellcolor{gray} inside a table cell it appears gray  
the output but there remains some white space between the gray box and  
the upper and lower table line (see attached screenshot).
Is it possible to fill the cell seemlessly / to color also this  
remaining white space?
Within the Additional Space dialog I have already set anything to  
None.
inline: Bild 1.png



Thanks for your help.

Johannes

--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

fully colored table cells with booktabs an colortbl

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

How can I achieve fully colored table cells using booktabs (i.e.  
formal table option) and colortbl?
When I put ERT \cellcolor{gray} inside a table cell it appears gray  
the output but there remains some white space between the gray box and  
the upper and lower table line (see attached screenshot).
Is it possible to fill the cell seemlessly / to color also this  
remaining white space?
Within the Additional Space dialog I have already set anything to  
None.
inline: Bild 1.png



Thanks for your help.

Johannes

--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

fully colored table cells with booktabs an colortbl

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

How can I achieve fully colored table cells using booktabs (i.e.  
"formal" table option) and colortbl?
When I put ERT \cellcolor{gray} inside a table cell it appears gray  
the output but there remains some white space between the gray box and  
the upper and lower table line (see attached screenshot).
Is it possible to fill the cell seemlessly / to color also this  
remaining white space?
Within the "Additional Space" dialog I have already set anything to  
"None".
<>



Thanks for your help.

Johannes

--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"
Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one  
night." (Charlie Brown)

Re: Change the Floatname only for some Floats

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 09.09.2008 um 10:02 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have only some additional questions:
1.) In the Lyx view of the document the numbering for the newly aux?


Sorry, this is slightly too elliptic for my parser. If you mean that  
Tableaux

should be numbered in the LyX view: they are here.


Oh, sorry my thoughts went faster than my fingers ;-)
I indeed intended to write tableaux. The thing is: They are there but  
numbering in Lyx starts with a 0 while it's a 1 in the output.
Is it possible to make an equal numbering in both views (preferably  
starting with 1)?

But that's a minor issue.

All the rest works great.
Thanks a lot for your help.

Johannes

Re: Change the Floatname only for some Floats

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 09.09.2008 um 10:02 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have only some additional questions:
1.) In the Lyx view of the document the numbering for the newly aux?


Sorry, this is slightly too elliptic for my parser. If you mean that  
Tableaux

should be numbered in the LyX view: they are here.


Oh, sorry my thoughts went faster than my fingers ;-)
I indeed intended to write tableaux. The thing is: They are there but  
numbering in Lyx starts with a 0 while it's a 1 in the output.
Is it possible to make an equal numbering in both views (preferably  
starting with 1)?

But that's a minor issue.

All the rest works great.
Thanks a lot for your help.

Johannes

Re: Change the Floatname only for some Floats

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 09.09.2008 um 10:02 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have only some additional questions:
1.) In the Lyx view of the document the numbering for the newly aux?


Sorry, this is slightly too elliptic for my parser. If you mean that  
Tableaux

should be numbered in the LyX view: they are here.


Oh, sorry my thoughts went faster than my fingers ;-)
I indeed intended to write tableaux. The thing is: They are there but  
numbering in Lyx starts with a 0 while it's a 1 in the output.
Is it possible to make an equal numbering in both views (preferably  
starting with 1)?

But that's a minor issue.

All the rest works great.
Thanks a lot for your help.

Johannes

Change the Floatname only for some Floats

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I'm editing a document which has a bunch of table floats in it.
For some tables the floatname Table x.x is appropriate and should  
remain like this.
But for some tablefloats I want to change the word Table in the  
floatname into Tableau

(Right now, Linguists know what kind of document I'm working on ;-)

Is this possible?

Greets,
Johannes


--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

Change the Floatname only for some Floats

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I'm editing a document which has a bunch of table floats in it.
For some tables the floatname Table x.x is appropriate and should  
remain like this.
But for some tablefloats I want to change the word Table in the  
floatname into Tableau

(Right now, Linguists know what kind of document I'm working on ;-)

Is this possible?

Greets,
Johannes


--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, Where have I gone wrong?
Then a voice says to me, This is going to take more than one  
night. (Charlie Brown)

Change the Floatname only for some Floats

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I'm editing a document which has a bunch of table floats in it.
For some tables the floatname "Table x.x" is appropriate and should  
remain like this.
But for some tablefloats I want to change the word "Table" in the  
floatname into "Tableau"

(Right now, Linguists know what kind of document I'm working on ;-)

Is this possible?

Greets,
Johannes


--

Sometimes I lie awake at night, and ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"
Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one  
night." (Charlie Brown)

Re: 1.6rc2 buglet

[Johannes Knaus]

I can confirm this for 1.6.x on Mac (IntelPPC).

Johannes

Am 29.08.2008 um 17:04 schrieb Neal Becker:

When I change background color (in the gui), it opens additional  
'list of equations' and 'source' views.