Re: where is lyxport gone to?
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 05:30:45PM +0200, Tim Michelsen wrote: > Hello, > I just checked on the doanload page and wondered whether someone > mirrored the script "lyxport". > > It can't be found on http://www-hep.colorado.edu/~fperez/lyxport/ anymore. > > lyxport is a Perl script which takes a LyX or TeX file as its only > argument (with or without extension) and produces HTML, PostScript and > PDF versions of the document. The name is short for "lyx export". I don't know about this script but according to your description it's nothing more than a small for loop e.g. cut #!/bin/bash for x in html pdf ps; do lyx -e $x $1 done cut A small makefile might be reasonable too. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: 1.5.0beta1 in Debian
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 12:18:28PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:54:30 +0100 Per Olofsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Debian LyX users, Just thought I'd led you know that we have uploaded LyX 1.5.0beta1 to Debian's experimental distribution, if you want to try it out. Two problems I found with it at the moment that wont let it install: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lyx-common_1.5.0~beta1-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/lyx/layouts/beamer.layout', which is also in package latex-beamer dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lyx_1.5.0~beta1-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/lyxclient.1.gz', which is also in package lyx-common Jupp known and wishlist bug on latex-beamer is filled because the files moved. That's why it's in experimental ;). Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: 1.5.0beta1 in Debian
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 12:18:28PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:54:30 +0100 Per Olofsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Debian LyX users, Just thought I'd led you know that we have uploaded LyX 1.5.0beta1 to Debian's experimental distribution, if you want to try it out. Two problems I found with it at the moment that wont let it install: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lyx-common_1.5.0~beta1-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/lyx/layouts/beamer.layout', which is also in package latex-beamer dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lyx_1.5.0~beta1-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/lyxclient.1.gz', which is also in package lyx-common Jupp known and wishlist bug on latex-beamer is filled because the files moved. That's why it's in experimental ;). Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: 1.5.0beta1 in Debian
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 12:18:28PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:54:30 +0100 > Per Olofsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Debian LyX users, > > > > Just thought I'd led you know that we have uploaded LyX 1.5.0beta1 to > > Debian's experimental distribution, if you want to try it out. > > > > Two problems I found with it at the moment that wont let it install: > > dpkg: error processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/lyx-common_1.5.0~beta1-1_all.deb (--unpack): > trying to overwrite `/usr/share/lyx/layouts/beamer.layout', which is also in > package latex-beamer > > dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lyx_1.5.0~beta1-1_i386.deb > (--unpack): > trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/lyxclient.1.gz', which is also in > package lyx-common > Jupp known and wishlist bug on latex-beamer is filled because the files moved. That's why it's in experimental ;). Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Ping Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 07:33:20PM +0100, Tom Schlangen wrote: Hi, do you expect V1.4.4 will make it into Etch? Current version there is 1.4.3-2 No, it will not, since etch is frozen. This only means we will have to find an urgend, critical error in V1.4.3 ;-) Even in that case only the relevant changeset would be applied to 1.4.3. Packet fluctuation and updating going on in Etch still is massive, certainly more than a hundred packets a week. Sure but it's only RC stuff and translation updates. The only thing I'm aware of ATM, that might move in as a patch, is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=411043 (and some related bugs I need to merge). But even that would require that we, as the package team and the release manager, decide that it is RC. Anyway the discussion about Debian release problems is off topic here. If you've some further questions feel free to move this thread over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Ping Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 07:33:20PM +0100, Tom Schlangen wrote: Hi, do you expect V1.4.4 will make it into Etch? Current version there is 1.4.3-2 No, it will not, since etch is frozen. This only means we will have to find an urgend, critical error in V1.4.3 ;-) Even in that case only the relevant changeset would be applied to 1.4.3. Packet fluctuation and updating going on in Etch still is massive, certainly more than a hundred packets a week. Sure but it's only RC stuff and translation updates. The only thing I'm aware of ATM, that might move in as a patch, is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=411043 (and some related bugs I need to merge). But even that would require that we, as the package team and the release manager, decide that it is RC. Anyway the discussion about Debian release problems is off topic here. If you've some further questions feel free to move this thread over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Ping Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 07:33:20PM +0100, Tom Schlangen wrote: Hi, > >> do you expect V1.4.4 will make it into Etch? Current > >> version there is 1.4.3-2 > > > No, it will not, since etch is frozen. > > This only means we will have to find an urgend, critical error in V1.4.3 ;-) Even in that case only the relevant changeset would be applied to 1.4.3. > Packet fluctuation and updating going on in Etch still is massive, > certainly more than a hundred packets a week. Sure but it's only RC stuff and translation updates. The only thing I'm aware of ATM, that might move in as a patch, is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=411043 (and some related bugs I need to merge). But even that would require that we, as the package team and the release manager, decide that it is RC. Anyway the discussion about Debian release problems is off topic here. If you've some further questions feel free to move this thread over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Space after €
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 10:18:15PM +0100, Tobias Krause wrote:
Hi,
I use \usepackage{eurosym}and ERT \geneuro for the € symbol, but
unfortunately there is no space between the €symbol and the next
character. The same with the € symbols of marvosym. How can I use the €
symbol in text and have the usual space?
Using, LyX 1.4.3-5 with Miktex 2.5 on WinXP.
Try to add a hard space with Ctrl-Space.
Sven
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Let me apologize while I'm still alive
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Re: Space after €
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 10:18:15PM +0100, Tobias Krause wrote:
Hi,
I use \usepackage{eurosym}and ERT \geneuro for the € symbol, but
unfortunately there is no space between the €symbol and the next
character. The same with the € symbols of marvosym. How can I use the €
symbol in text and have the usual space?
Using, LyX 1.4.3-5 with Miktex 2.5 on WinXP.
Try to add a hard space with Ctrl-Space.
Sven
--
If you won't forgive me the rest of my life
Let me apologize while I'm still alive
I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes
[Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Space after €
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 10:18:15PM +0100, Tobias Krause wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I use \usepackage{eurosym}and ERT \geneuro for the € symbol, but
> unfortunately there is no space between the €symbol and the next
> character. The same with the € symbols of marvosym. How can I use the €
> symbol in text and have the usual space?
>
> Using, LyX 1.4.3-5 with Miktex 2.5 on WinXP.
Try to add a hard space with Ctrl-Space.
Sven
--
If you won't forgive me the rest of my life
Let me apologize while I'm still alive
I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes
[Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: texlive as support for lyx
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 09:38:41AM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote: Hi, since the new available latex on linux, will be texlive instead of tetex, I think it 's time to support the texlive instead of tetex. [ Now the required latex for lyx 1.4.2 (is tetex) ] or I am wrong ?? AFAIK LyX works fine with texlive. At least the users of the Debian package requested that we offer the choice between tetex and texlive and since that's done I've got no complains. So I assume tetex and texlive are interchangeable without causing trouble for LyX users. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: texlive as support for lyx
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 09:38:41AM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote: Hi, since the new available latex on linux, will be texlive instead of tetex, I think it 's time to support the texlive instead of tetex. [ Now the required latex for lyx 1.4.2 (is tetex) ] or I am wrong ?? AFAIK LyX works fine with texlive. At least the users of the Debian package requested that we offer the choice between tetex and texlive and since that's done I've got no complains. So I assume tetex and texlive are interchangeable without causing trouble for LyX users. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: texlive as support for lyx
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 09:38:41AM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote: > Hi, > since the new available latex on linux, will be texlive instead of > tetex, I think it 's time to support the texlive instead of tetex. > [ Now the required latex for lyx 1.4.2 (is tetex) ] or I am wrong ?? AFAIK LyX works fine with texlive. At least the users of the Debian package requested that we offer the choice between tetex and texlive and since that's done I've got no complains. So I assume tetex and texlive are interchangeable without causing trouble for LyX users. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:36:14AM -0500, David L. Johnson wrote: I don't know about Ubuntu, but debian-etch comes with LyX 1.4.3 now, so there is really no need to make your own package. It might also be not a great idea to distribute it, since that might not be compatible with the official one in terms of dependencies. Let's take a look at the Ubuntu package listing: http://tinyurl.com/wj737 So the latest release 'feisty' is up to date. The 'edgy' release has a backport avaible. The only 'problematic' case is the LTS (Long Term Support) release 'dapper'. It's a little bit problematic because there where some more intrusive changes in the Debian python policy which also effect Ubuntu. Those changes need to be reverted if you want to backport something to the Dapper release. Does Ubuntu come in various levels of cutting-edge-ness like pure debian does? Maybe there is already a package there you could use. For everything that is not 'LTS' they've a very short ttl and so they only fetch new packages for the latest release they're working on. From my perspective (without experience in using it) it's looking like bigger mess than what Debian/unstable is from time to time. Regarding the backports for Ubuntus LTS release 'dapper' I've demonstrated how to do it with the 1.4.2 packages from the 'edgy' release. ftp://hxt.homelinux.org/foobuntu/ It's nearly the same for the 1.4.3 package from 'feisty' but I'm not going to maintain such things. It's just meant as an example to maybe encourage someone who's actually using Ubuntu to work on it to improve the situation. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:36:14AM -0500, David L. Johnson wrote: I don't know about Ubuntu, but debian-etch comes with LyX 1.4.3 now, so there is really no need to make your own package. It might also be not a great idea to distribute it, since that might not be compatible with the official one in terms of dependencies. Let's take a look at the Ubuntu package listing: http://tinyurl.com/wj737 So the latest release 'feisty' is up to date. The 'edgy' release has a backport avaible. The only 'problematic' case is the LTS (Long Term Support) release 'dapper'. It's a little bit problematic because there where some more intrusive changes in the Debian python policy which also effect Ubuntu. Those changes need to be reverted if you want to backport something to the Dapper release. Does Ubuntu come in various levels of cutting-edge-ness like pure debian does? Maybe there is already a package there you could use. For everything that is not 'LTS' they've a very short ttl and so they only fetch new packages for the latest release they're working on. From my perspective (without experience in using it) it's looking like bigger mess than what Debian/unstable is from time to time. Regarding the backports for Ubuntus LTS release 'dapper' I've demonstrated how to do it with the 1.4.2 packages from the 'edgy' release. ftp://hxt.homelinux.org/foobuntu/ It's nearly the same for the 1.4.3 package from 'feisty' but I'm not going to maintain such things. It's just meant as an example to maybe encourage someone who's actually using Ubuntu to work on it to improve the situation. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:36:14AM -0500, David L. Johnson wrote: > I don't know about Ubuntu, but debian-etch comes with LyX 1.4.3 now, so there > is really no need to make your own package. It might also be not a great idea > to distribute it, since that might not be compatible with the official one > in terms of dependencies. Let's take a look at the Ubuntu package listing: http://tinyurl.com/wj737 So the latest release 'feisty' is up to date. The 'edgy' release has a backport avaible. The only 'problematic' case is the LTS (Long Term Support) release 'dapper'. It's a little bit problematic because there where some more intrusive changes in the Debian python policy which also effect Ubuntu. Those changes need to be reverted if you want to backport something to the Dapper release. > Does Ubuntu come in various levels of "cutting-edge"-ness like pure debian > does? Maybe there is already a package there you could use. For everything that is not 'LTS' they've a very short ttl and so they only fetch new packages for the latest release they're working on. >From my perspective (without experience in using it) it's looking like bigger mess than what Debian/unstable is from time to time. Regarding the backports for Ubuntus LTS release 'dapper' I've demonstrated how to do it with the 1.4.2 packages from the 'edgy' release. ftp://hxt.homelinux.org/foobuntu/ It's nearly the same for the 1.4.3 package from 'feisty' but I'm not going to maintain such things. It's just meant as an example to maybe encourage someone who's actually using Ubuntu to work on it to improve the situation. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 03:21:44PM +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 17. Dezember 2006 01:01 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bill Wood wrote: Hi, Hi, I'm considering switching Linux distributions to Debian or Ubuntu, and I wanted to know what the community experience was regarding Lyx on either. In particular, are there any known functional or performance issues? Also, is there any difficulty staying current? LyX works well on Debian. At some point last year, LyX had no maintainer but today Sven is a very active and dedicated maintainer. Thanks for it, Sven What should I say ... Thank you for all the kind words! :) Please don't forget Per and Georg who are also working on the package. advertising If you like to help you can always take a look at http://wiki.debian.org/PkgLyx ATM I'm waiting for the Debian/etch release. When it's released it would be a good point to walk again through all those bugs and try to reproduce them. After that it's (at least I hope so) time to start with the 1.5.0 packaging. /advertising Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 03:21:44PM +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Sonntag, 17. Dezember 2006 01:01 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bill Wood wrote: Hi, Hi, I'm considering switching Linux distributions to Debian or Ubuntu, and I wanted to know what the community experience was regarding Lyx on either. In particular, are there any known functional or performance issues? Also, is there any difficulty staying current? LyX works well on Debian. At some point last year, LyX had no maintainer but today Sven is a very active and dedicated maintainer. Thanks for it, Sven What should I say ... Thank you for all the kind words! :) Please don't forget Per and Georg who are also working on the package. advertising If you like to help you can always take a look at http://wiki.debian.org/PkgLyx ATM I'm waiting for the Debian/etch release. When it's released it would be a good point to walk again through all those bugs and try to reproduce them. After that it's (at least I hope so) time to start with the 1.5.0 packaging. /advertising Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: LyX on Debian or Ubuntu
On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 03:21:44PM +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 17. Dezember 2006 01:01 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Bill Wood wrote: Hi, > > > Hi, I'm considering switching Linux distributions to Debian or Ubuntu, > > > and I wanted to know what the community experience was regarding Lyx on > > > either. In particular, are there any known functional or performance > > > issues? Also, is there any difficulty staying current? > > > > LyX works well on Debian. At some point last year, LyX had no maintainer > > but today Sven is a very active and dedicated maintainer. > > Thanks for it, Sven What should I say ... Thank you for all the kind words! :) Please don't forget Per and Georg who are also working on the package. If you like to help you can always take a look at http://wiki.debian.org/PkgLyx ATM I'm waiting for the Debian/etch release. When it's released it would be a good point to walk again through all those bugs and try to reproduce them. After that it's (at least I hope so) time to start with the 1.5.0 packaging. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: non-free? (Was: LyX package for Debian)
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:53:25AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main contrib non-free you find Lyx 1.4.2 Does anyone know why it's in 'non-free'? It is not. Someone just tried to give a complete source list. You should also read the instructions on backports.org carefully before using it! (Yes a BIG WARNING!) Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: LyX package for Debian
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:04:10AM +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Montag, 6. November 2006 09:11 schrieb Georg Baum: Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Dear List-members, Could somebody who uses Debian kindly point me to a suitable search machine which I could insert in my sources.list in order to build a more recent LyX? Thanks for the responses. However, I have almost no experience with Debian so far. The /etc/apt/sources.list has entrances such as: deb http://host/debian distribution section1 section2 section3 deb-src http://host/debian distribution section1 section2 section3 (from http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html) Look at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian for more information about LyX on debian. ? Something like: deb http://http.wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian deb-src http://http.wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian or ftp.wiki.?? Have you followed Georg's advice and just read the page on the wiki? This should've explained that this is not what you should put in your sources.list. (By the way I am using Kanotix if this is of importance) I'm not sure on which flavour of Debian this is based so yes this might be important. If it's based on the current stable which is sarge the packages from backports.org are for you. If it's based on the current testing which is called etch then you should not use the packages from backports.org (I doubt that they would work with the current testing). So IMHO it would be the best for you to ask in a Kanotix support forum for advice from where you can take 3rd party packages. The use of backports.org is even a little bit more complicated and you should learn how package pinning works before you try to use it. If it's too complex for you to get started it should be possible for you to install the LyX version from sarge and then download only the lyx packages from backports.org and install them by hand via dpkg -i. http://debian.netcologne.de/debian-backports/pool/main/l/lyx/ It might help if you would quote the exact lines you've in your sources.list ATM to determine which packages should work for you. Hm slightly off-topic here ... Just to clarify the status of the LyX packages in Debian for the other readers a little bit: Debian/stable (nickname sarge): 1.3.4 Debian/testing (this one is nicknamed etch and will be the new stable in 2-3 month): 1.4.2 Debian/unstable (nickname sid and this won't change): 1.4.3 I'm waiting ATM for Per (the only DD in your packaging group) to sponsor a new upload of the 1.4.3 package which should fix a build problem on hppa so that the 1.4.3 packages can migrate to testing before the freeze. The packages an backports.org are nearly all backports from the version currently in Debian/testing. ATM this is 1.4.2 as stated above. You can track the versions here: http://packages.debian.org/lyx http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lyx.html All versions support the qt and xforms frontend[1]. Cheers, Sven [1] Guess I shouldn't talk about dead things but you can even build the (unsupported) gtk frontend with minimal changes. -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: LyX package for Debian
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:46:32AM +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Hi Sven Hoexter thanks for your response Have you followed Georg's advice and just read the page on the wiki? This should've explained that this is not what you should put in your sources.list. Yes I did: Do you always answer only to the first paragraph? Ok let's see if I can do something good today. Accordings to www.kanotix.(com|org) it's based on Debian/sid. If that's true the following (quick'n'dirty way) should install you the LyX 1.4.3 packages from Debian/sid. The # should indicate that you've to be root to perform those actions you don't have to prefix those commands with it. # echo deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free /etc/apt/sources.list # aptitutde update # aptitude install lyx This may break your system, harm you cat, kill your goldfish or do other nasty things to you. So be carefull. ;) Read as: I won't repair your system if it breaks. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: non-free? (Was: LyX package for Debian)
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:53:25AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main contrib non-free you find Lyx 1.4.2 Does anyone know why it's in 'non-free'? It is not. Someone just tried to give a complete source list. You should also read the instructions on backports.org carefully before using it! (Yes a BIG WARNING!) Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: LyX package for Debian
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:04:10AM +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Montag, 6. November 2006 09:11 schrieb Georg Baum: Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Dear List-members, Could somebody who uses Debian kindly point me to a suitable search machine which I could insert in my sources.list in order to build a more recent LyX? Thanks for the responses. However, I have almost no experience with Debian so far. The /etc/apt/sources.list has entrances such as: deb http://host/debian distribution section1 section2 section3 deb-src http://host/debian distribution section1 section2 section3 (from http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html) Look at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian for more information about LyX on debian. ? Something like: deb http://http.wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian deb-src http://http.wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian or ftp.wiki.?? Have you followed Georg's advice and just read the page on the wiki? This should've explained that this is not what you should put in your sources.list. (By the way I am using Kanotix if this is of importance) I'm not sure on which flavour of Debian this is based so yes this might be important. If it's based on the current stable which is sarge the packages from backports.org are for you. If it's based on the current testing which is called etch then you should not use the packages from backports.org (I doubt that they would work with the current testing). So IMHO it would be the best for you to ask in a Kanotix support forum for advice from where you can take 3rd party packages. The use of backports.org is even a little bit more complicated and you should learn how package pinning works before you try to use it. If it's too complex for you to get started it should be possible for you to install the LyX version from sarge and then download only the lyx packages from backports.org and install them by hand via dpkg -i. http://debian.netcologne.de/debian-backports/pool/main/l/lyx/ It might help if you would quote the exact lines you've in your sources.list ATM to determine which packages should work for you. Hm slightly off-topic here ... Just to clarify the status of the LyX packages in Debian for the other readers a little bit: Debian/stable (nickname sarge): 1.3.4 Debian/testing (this one is nicknamed etch and will be the new stable in 2-3 month): 1.4.2 Debian/unstable (nickname sid and this won't change): 1.4.3 I'm waiting ATM for Per (the only DD in your packaging group) to sponsor a new upload of the 1.4.3 package which should fix a build problem on hppa so that the 1.4.3 packages can migrate to testing before the freeze. The packages an backports.org are nearly all backports from the version currently in Debian/testing. ATM this is 1.4.2 as stated above. You can track the versions here: http://packages.debian.org/lyx http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lyx.html All versions support the qt and xforms frontend[1]. Cheers, Sven [1] Guess I shouldn't talk about dead things but you can even build the (unsupported) gtk frontend with minimal changes. -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: LyX package for Debian
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:46:32AM +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Hi Sven Hoexter thanks for your response Have you followed Georg's advice and just read the page on the wiki? This should've explained that this is not what you should put in your sources.list. Yes I did: Do you always answer only to the first paragraph? Ok let's see if I can do something good today. Accordings to www.kanotix.(com|org) it's based on Debian/sid. If that's true the following (quick'n'dirty way) should install you the LyX 1.4.3 packages from Debian/sid. The # should indicate that you've to be root to perform those actions you don't have to prefix those commands with it. # echo deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free /etc/apt/sources.list # aptitutde update # aptitude install lyx This may break your system, harm you cat, kill your goldfish or do other nasty things to you. So be carefull. ;) Read as: I won't repair your system if it breaks. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: non-free? (Was: LyX package for Debian)
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:53:25AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main contrib non-free > > > > you find Lyx 1.4.2 > > Does anyone know why it's in 'non-free'? It is not. Someone just tried to give a complete source list. You should also read the instructions on backports.org carefully before using it! (Yes a BIG WARNING!) Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: LyX package for Debian
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:04:10AM +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Am Montag, 6. November 2006 09:11 schrieb Georg Baum: > > Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > > > Dear List-members, > > > > > > Could somebody who uses Debian kindly point me to a suitable search > > > machine which I could insert in my sources.list in order to build a more > > > recent LyX? > Thanks for the responses. However, I have almost no experience with Debian so > far. The > /etc/apt/sources.list > has entrances such as: > > deb http://host/debian distribution section1 section2 section3 > deb-src http://host/debian distribution section1 section2 section3 > (from http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html) > > > Look at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian > > for more information about LyX > > on debian.> > ? > Something like: > deb http://http.wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian > deb-src http://http.wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian > > or ftp.wiki.?? > > Have you followed Georg's advice and just read the page on the wiki? This should've explained that this is not what you should put in your sources.list. > (By the way I am using Kanotix if this is of importance) I'm not sure on which flavour of Debian this is based so yes this might be important. If it's based on the current stable which is sarge the packages from backports.org are for you. If it's based on the current testing which is called etch then you should not use the packages from backports.org (I doubt that they would work with the current testing). So IMHO it would be the best for you to ask in a Kanotix support forum for advice from where you can take 3rd party packages. The use of backports.org is even a little bit more complicated and you should learn how package pinning works before you try to use it. If it's too complex for you to get started it should be possible for you to install the LyX version from sarge and then download only the lyx packages from backports.org and install them by hand via dpkg -i. http://debian.netcologne.de/debian-backports/pool/main/l/lyx/ It might help if you would quote the exact lines you've in your sources.list ATM to determine which packages should work for you. Hm slightly off-topic here ... Just to clarify the status of the LyX packages in Debian for the other readers a little bit: Debian/stable (nickname sarge): 1.3.4 Debian/testing (this one is nicknamed etch and will be the new stable in 2-3 month): 1.4.2 Debian/unstable (nickname sid and this won't change): 1.4.3 I'm waiting ATM for Per (the only DD in your packaging group) to sponsor a new upload of the 1.4.3 package which should fix a build problem on hppa so that the 1.4.3 packages can migrate to testing before the freeze. The packages an backports.org are nearly all backports from the version currently in Debian/testing. ATM this is 1.4.2 as stated above. You can track the versions here: http://packages.debian.org/lyx http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lyx.html All versions support the qt and xforms frontend[1]. Cheers, Sven [1] Guess I shouldn't talk about dead things but you can even build the (unsupported) gtk frontend with minimal changes. -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: LyX package for Debian
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 11:46:32AM +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Hi Sven Hoexter > thanks for your response > > Have you followed Georg's advice and just read the page on the wiki? > > This should've explained that this is not what you should put in > > your sources.list. > Yes I did: Do you always answer only to the first paragraph? Ok let's see if I can do something good today. Accordings to www.kanotix.(com|org) it's based on Debian/sid. If that's true the following (quick'n'dirty way) should install you the LyX 1.4.3 packages from Debian/sid. The # should indicate that you've to be root to perform those actions you don't have to prefix those commands with it. # echo "deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list # aptitutde update # aptitude install lyx This may break your system, harm you cat, kill your goldfish or do other nasty things to you. So be carefull. ;) Read as: I won't repair your system if it breaks. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Lyx-1.4.3 to Mandriva 2006
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:00:55AM -0300, Rudi Gaelzer wrote: Miguel, In fact, neither the 1.4.3 nor the 1.3.7 packages contain lyxrc.dist. If I run lyx -dbg 2 in my laptop, it complains that lyxrc.dist was not found, but it starts anyway. I don't know if I'm just lucky because the rpm was created in the very same laptop and it just runs in there... Looking in my desktop pc, which runs Fedora core 5, I found lyxrc.dist in /usr/share/lyx. I'm sending the file attached, but I don't know if it will work for you... The global lyxrc.dist is no longer in use. I've a very short summary about how we handle it in the Debian package here: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-lyx/lyx/trunk/debian/NEWS?op=filerev=0sc=0 Nowdays nearly all of the configuration is stored in the ~/.lyx dir of the user. I guess you can find some more details searching throught the mailinglist archives. IIRC Georg outlined it even for me on the pkg-lyx-devel list. You can find the archive here http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-lyx-devel/ Must have been in April or May '06. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Lyx-1.4.3 to Mandriva 2006
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:00:55AM -0300, Rudi Gaelzer wrote: Miguel, In fact, neither the 1.4.3 nor the 1.3.7 packages contain lyxrc.dist. If I run lyx -dbg 2 in my laptop, it complains that lyxrc.dist was not found, but it starts anyway. I don't know if I'm just lucky because the rpm was created in the very same laptop and it just runs in there... Looking in my desktop pc, which runs Fedora core 5, I found lyxrc.dist in /usr/share/lyx. I'm sending the file attached, but I don't know if it will work for you... The global lyxrc.dist is no longer in use. I've a very short summary about how we handle it in the Debian package here: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-lyx/lyx/trunk/debian/NEWS?op=filerev=0sc=0 Nowdays nearly all of the configuration is stored in the ~/.lyx dir of the user. I guess you can find some more details searching throught the mailinglist archives. IIRC Georg outlined it even for me on the pkg-lyx-devel list. You can find the archive here http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-lyx-devel/ Must have been in April or May '06. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Lyx-1.4.3 to Mandriva 2006
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:00:55AM -0300, Rudi Gaelzer wrote: > Miguel, > In fact, neither the 1.4.3 nor the 1.3.7 packages contain lyxrc.dist. If I > run > lyx -dbg 2 in my laptop, it complains that lyxrc.dist was not found, but it > starts anyway. I don't know if I'm just lucky because the rpm was created in > the very same laptop and it just runs in there... > > Looking in my desktop pc, which runs Fedora core 5, I found lyxrc.dist > in /usr/share/lyx. I'm sending the file attached, but I don't know if it will > work for you... The global lyxrc.dist is no longer in use. I've a very short summary about how we handle it in the Debian package here: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-lyx/lyx/trunk/debian/NEWS?op=file=0=0 Nowdays nearly all of the configuration is stored in the ~/.lyx dir of the user. I guess you can find some more details searching throught the mailinglist archives. IIRC Georg outlined it even for me on the pkg-lyx-devel list. You can find the archive here http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-lyx-devel/ Must have been in April or May '06. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: ubuntu checkinstall package
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 12:23:39PM -0400, Andrew Corrigan wrote: In case this is helpful to someone, I made an ubuntu package with checkinstall, in other words it doesn't take care of dependencies or uninstalling an old version or anything like that, it just saves you the trouble of running configure and make and allows you to uninstall lyx via synaptic when you want to. it gets installed to /usr/local since the configure was: ./configure --with-frontend=qt --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3 The package is located here: http://mason.gmu.edu/~acorriga/ubuntu/lyx_1.4.3-1_i386.deb Hm you can even go the clean way quite easily at least if you run the edgy thing. a) Get the diff from the 1.4.2 ubuntu package and apply it to the 1.4.3 source b) Get the current patches from http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-lyx/lyx/trunk/debian/patches/?rev=0sc=0 c) Edit the changelog and build as usual with dpkg-buildpackage, debuild or whatever you normaly use For the dapper thing you can use my 1.4.2 diff from here ftp://hxt.homelinux.org/foobuntu/lyx_1.4.2-4%7edapper1.diff.gz and go on with b) and c) as outlined above. So not that complicated at all. Still no one willing to prepare regular builds for the *buntus to feed the hungry masses? Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: ubuntu checkinstall package
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 12:23:39PM -0400, Andrew Corrigan wrote: In case this is helpful to someone, I made an ubuntu package with checkinstall, in other words it doesn't take care of dependencies or uninstalling an old version or anything like that, it just saves you the trouble of running configure and make and allows you to uninstall lyx via synaptic when you want to. it gets installed to /usr/local since the configure was: ./configure --with-frontend=qt --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3 The package is located here: http://mason.gmu.edu/~acorriga/ubuntu/lyx_1.4.3-1_i386.deb Hm you can even go the clean way quite easily at least if you run the edgy thing. a) Get the diff from the 1.4.2 ubuntu package and apply it to the 1.4.3 source b) Get the current patches from http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-lyx/lyx/trunk/debian/patches/?rev=0sc=0 c) Edit the changelog and build as usual with dpkg-buildpackage, debuild or whatever you normaly use For the dapper thing you can use my 1.4.2 diff from here ftp://hxt.homelinux.org/foobuntu/lyx_1.4.2-4%7edapper1.diff.gz and go on with b) and c) as outlined above. So not that complicated at all. Still no one willing to prepare regular builds for the *buntus to feed the hungry masses? Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: ubuntu checkinstall package
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 12:23:39PM -0400, Andrew Corrigan wrote: > In case this is helpful to someone, I made an ubuntu package with > checkinstall, in other words it doesn't take care of dependencies or > uninstalling an old version or anything like that, it just saves you the > trouble of running configure and make and allows you to uninstall lyx > via synaptic when you want to. it gets installed to /usr/local since the > configure was: > ./configure --with-frontend=qt --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 > --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3 > The package is located here: > http://mason.gmu.edu/~acorriga/ubuntu/lyx_1.4.3-1_i386.deb Hm you can even go the clean way quite easily at least if you run the edgy thing. a) Get the diff from the 1.4.2 ubuntu package and apply it to the 1.4.3 source b) Get the current patches from http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-lyx/lyx/trunk/debian/patches/?rev=0=0 c) Edit the changelog and build as usual with dpkg-buildpackage, debuild or whatever you normaly use For the dapper thing you can use my 1.4.2 diff from here ftp://hxt.homelinux.org/foobuntu/lyx_1.4.2-4%7edapper1.diff.gz and go on with b) and c) as outlined above. So not that complicated at all. Still no one willing to prepare regular builds for the *buntus to feed the hungry masses? Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 12:41:39AM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. Yep, I expected something like that. Well I bet that this is solveable by just tweaking some things in the control file and maybe by reverting the python policy change if it has been adopted by Ubuntu aswell. I've done this for the sarge backport aswell and the differences between those Ubuntu release shouldn't be more then the differences between Debian/sarge and what is currently Debian/testing. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 09:31:44AM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote: On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 12:41:39AM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. Yep, I expected something like that. Well I bet that this is solveable by just tweaking some things in the control file and maybe by reverting the python policy change if it has been adopted by Ubuntu aswell. I've done this for the sarge backport aswell and the differences between those Ubuntu release shouldn't be more then the differences between Debian/sarge and what is currently Debian/testing. Ok for the impatient here is the diff: ftp://hxt.homelinux.org/foobuntu/lyx_1.4.2-4%7edapper1.diff.gz If you've a fast machine build it on your own. My oh so slow box is still working on the binary. Oh and I'm still unsure if it's a great idea to publish binarys from a one time action only initiated to proof something. It would be a lot better if someone would publish binarys who is actually using them and who is interested in keeping them fresh and up to date. Actually im building in a chroot located in /tmp which means it will be gone with the next reboot anyway. If someone would like to care for his *buntu fellows it would be nice to step up NOW. I'm not interested at all and a little bit pissed of already by some strange emails claiming that Debian packagers are responsible for what *buntu ships. Oh slightly off-topic of course ... I should stop whiningx ;) Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 12:41:39AM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. Yep, I expected something like that. Well I bet that this is solveable by just tweaking some things in the control file and maybe by reverting the python policy change if it has been adopted by Ubuntu aswell. I've done this for the sarge backport aswell and the differences between those Ubuntu release shouldn't be more then the differences between Debian/sarge and what is currently Debian/testing. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 09:31:44AM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote: On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 12:41:39AM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to build-dependendency issues. Yep, I expected something like that. Well I bet that this is solveable by just tweaking some things in the control file and maybe by reverting the python policy change if it has been adopted by Ubuntu aswell. I've done this for the sarge backport aswell and the differences between those Ubuntu release shouldn't be more then the differences between Debian/sarge and what is currently Debian/testing. Ok for the impatient here is the diff: ftp://hxt.homelinux.org/foobuntu/lyx_1.4.2-4%7edapper1.diff.gz If you've a fast machine build it on your own. My oh so slow box is still working on the binary. Oh and I'm still unsure if it's a great idea to publish binarys from a one time action only initiated to proof something. It would be a lot better if someone would publish binarys who is actually using them and who is interested in keeping them fresh and up to date. Actually im building in a chroot located in /tmp which means it will be gone with the next reboot anyway. If someone would like to care for his *buntu fellows it would be nice to step up NOW. I'm not interested at all and a little bit pissed of already by some strange emails claiming that Debian packagers are responsible for what *buntu ships. Oh slightly off-topic of course ... I should stop whiningx ;) Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 12:41:39AM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to > > build-dependendency issues. > > > Yep, I expected something like that. Well I bet that this is solveable by just tweaking some things in the control file and maybe by reverting the python policy change if it has been adopted by Ubuntu aswell. I've done this for the sarge backport aswell and the differences between those Ubuntu release shouldn't be more then the differences between Debian/sarge and what is currently Debian/testing. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 09:31:44AM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 12:41:39AM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > > > Unfortunately, backports from edgy are not possible at the moment due to > > > build-dependendency issues. > > > > > Yep, I expected something like that. > > Well I bet that this is solveable by just tweaking some things in the control > file and maybe by reverting the python policy change if it has been adopted by > Ubuntu aswell. I've done this for the sarge backport aswell and the > differences > between those Ubuntu release shouldn't be more then the differences between > Debian/sarge and what is currently Debian/testing. Ok for the impatient here is the diff: ftp://hxt.homelinux.org/foobuntu/lyx_1.4.2-4%7edapper1.diff.gz If you've a fast machine build it on your own. My oh so slow box is still working on the binary. Oh and I'm still unsure if it's a great idea to publish binarys from a one time action only initiated to proof something. It would be a lot better if someone would publish binarys who is actually using them and who is interested in keeping them fresh and up to date. Actually im building in a chroot located in /tmp which means it will be gone with the next reboot anyway. If someone would like to care for his *buntu fellows it would be nice to step up NOW. I'm not interested at all and a little bit pissed of already by some strange emails claiming that Debian packagers are responsible for what *buntu ships. Oh slightly off-topic of course ... I should stop whiningx ;) Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: Dear all, I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on ubuntu (current/6.06). Take a look at packages.ubuntu.com. Prebuild packages for the latest Ubuntu flavour are avaible. If you don't like to upgrade try to recompile them. That should work without major problems. I dunno if Ubuntu features something like www.backports.org where packages get backported for stable releases. Cheers, Sven (another one) -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: Dear all, I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on ubuntu (current/6.06). Take a look at packages.ubuntu.com. Prebuild packages for the latest Ubuntu flavour are avaible. If you don't like to upgrade try to recompile them. That should work without major problems. I dunno if Ubuntu features something like www.backports.org where packages get backported for stable releases. Cheers, Sven (another one) -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx 1.4.2 on ubuntu
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Sven Schreiber wrote: > Dear all, > I have some questions/comments about using the current lyx version on > ubuntu (current/6.06). Take a look at packages.ubuntu.com. Prebuild packages for the latest Ubuntu flavour are avaible. If you don't like to upgrade try to recompile them. That should work without major problems. I dunno if Ubuntu features something like www.backports.org where packages get backported for stable releases. Cheers, Sven (another one) -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: user interface study of lyx
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 10:44:20AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: A LyX liveCD would be nice, sure. Be aware that linux doesn't write very well to NTFS filesystems though - so it may be necessary to save on FAT/FAT32 formatted usb thing if the disk filesystem is NTFS. At least the Knoppix DVD Image containts lyx but only the ancient 1.3.6 version. Looks like Klaus is still using parts from Debian/sarge. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: user interface study of lyx
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 10:44:20AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: A LyX liveCD would be nice, sure. Be aware that linux doesn't write very well to NTFS filesystems though - so it may be necessary to save on FAT/FAT32 formatted usb thing if the disk filesystem is NTFS. At least the Knoppix DVD Image containts lyx but only the ancient 1.3.6 version. Looks like Klaus is still using parts from Debian/sarge. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: user interface study of lyx
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 10:44:20AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > A LyX liveCD would be nice, sure. Be aware that linux doesn't > write very well to NTFS filesystems though - so it may be necessary > to save on FAT/FAT32 formatted usb thing if the disk filesystem is NTFS. At least the Knoppix DVD Image containts lyx but only the ancient 1.3.6 version. Looks like Klaus is still using parts from Debian/sarge. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: ubuntu and lyx
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 03:21:09PM +0200, Hartmut Haase wrote: Can someone tell me which qt3 packages I have to install under ubuntu/debian to get lyx configured? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-usersm=115442632416905w=2 and related posts ... You would be better of running a native Debian ... Sv*hiding_under_some_economics_books*en -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: ubuntu and lyx
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 03:21:09PM +0200, Hartmut Haase wrote: Can someone tell me which qt3 packages I have to install under ubuntu/debian to get lyx configured? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-usersm=115442632416905w=2 and related posts ... You would be better of running a native Debian ... Sv*hiding_under_some_economics_books*en -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: ubuntu and lyx
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 03:21:09PM +0200, Hartmut Haase wrote: > Can someone tell me which qt3 packages I have to install under ubuntu/debian > to get lyx configured? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-users=115442632416905=2 and related posts ... You would be better of running a native Debian ... Sv*hiding_under_some_economics_books*en -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx1.4.2 in kubuntu
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 08:24:11AM +0200, Christopher Winkler wrote: sorry for breaking the thread ... new mailing programme ... Hello all, is there anything I have overseen in the mailing-list archive? I cannot manage to install lyx 1.4.1. on ubuntu dapper, and I have found no package hidden anywhere. Is there a secret about ubuntu still wanting to install lyx 1.3.7 per default and, more important, is there a way to get 1.4.2 on my kubuntu desktop (please do not tell me to compile it, I am completely new to the debian thing, just switched over from an rpm-based distro) ... According to http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=lyxsearchon=namessubword=1version=allrelease=all they only ship 1.4.1 within the upcoming edgy release and 1.3.7 in the dapper release. You've to take into account that Ubuntu and their derivates and sub distros are all based on Debian. As it took some time to get the packages in Debian back on track they had no chance to repackage/recompile 1.4.x packages for the dapper or edgy release. I donno how they handle backports but maybe you can ask Barry (the Ubuntu guy) about that. I'll CC him to catch his attention. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx1.4.2 in kubuntu
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:37:14AM -0400, Richard Kleeman wrote: I tried to recompile lyx-1.4.2 packages for Dapper using the new Debian unstable packages. The packaging failed right at the end (no version number for lyx-common found). So I recompiled myself and used checkinstall to produce an interim package. You can get it here: http://www.math.nyu.edu/faculty/kleeman/dapper/lyx-1.4.2_1.4.2-1_i386.deb Before you install it (use sudo dpkg -i lyx-1.4.2_1.4.2-1_i386.deb) make sure that the standard dapper lyx packages are not installed (there are several). Is that package based on the Debian 1.4.2-1 oder -2 version? -1 was br0ken so you should not use that one. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx1.4.2 in kubuntu
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:32:38PM +0200, Christopher Winkler wrote: Am Montag, 31. Juli 2006 08:24 schrieb Christopher Winkler: Hello Christopher, my system: ubuntu dapper, i386 .. ,thank you for your help, but nothing helped... I thought the best thing was to try to compile it myself. What a nightmare! After googling for hours (with a 56k modem!) and resolving most of the missing dependencies, I ended up with this after compiling: ./configure --with-frontend=qt --with-qt-dir=/usr/lib/qt3 --with-version-suffix=-1.4.2 Where, please, are the qt libraries, what on earth is uic and what doesn't he recognise my moc binary although I have installed the moc-package? ARGG! Never been through this before ... My advise would be to install a pure Debian. There I can even provide you backported packages for Debian/sarge. I've no clue about what strange things they've br0ken in all those different *buntus. To be honest, if you pay me I'd even install *buntu of your choice and create packages for you. I guess that's not an option for you. ;) Sv*SCNR*en -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx1.4.2 in kubuntu
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:50:57PM +0200, Christopher Winkler wrote: Am Montag, 31. Juli 2006 22:44 schrieb Sven Hoexter: Hi Christopher, My advise would be to install a pure Debian. There I can even provide you backported packages for Debian/sarge. I've no clue about what strange things they've br0ken in all those different *buntus. Hey: I have a job, a wife and two children! I used to say bad things about my always running SuSE, but debian is not for mouse kickers(?) like me ... Hehe, it's not that hard. If you know one Unix/Linux system you know them all. Just an idea, maybe it cannot find the .h files for the qt lib. You didn't post the complete log for ./configure make so that's just a guess. Try to add something like --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 to your configure options. And a second hint: You can find all required build-depends if you take a look at the control file in the source package. As a third hint (donno if they do it this way in the *buntu universe): Install the meta-package build-essential which depends on the most common tools you need to compile software. So that's what you can get for free, you know about the other option. ;) Cheers, Sven Don't take me to serious today - I looked at way to much way to old bugs against the lyx Debian package. -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx1.4.2 in kubuntu
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 08:24:11AM +0200, Christopher Winkler wrote: sorry for breaking the thread ... new mailing programme ... Hello all, is there anything I have overseen in the mailing-list archive? I cannot manage to install lyx 1.4.1. on ubuntu dapper, and I have found no package hidden anywhere. Is there a secret about ubuntu still wanting to install lyx 1.3.7 per default and, more important, is there a way to get 1.4.2 on my kubuntu desktop (please do not tell me to compile it, I am completely new to the debian thing, just switched over from an rpm-based distro) ... According to http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=lyxsearchon=namessubword=1version=allrelease=all they only ship 1.4.1 within the upcoming edgy release and 1.3.7 in the dapper release. You've to take into account that Ubuntu and their derivates and sub distros are all based on Debian. As it took some time to get the packages in Debian back on track they had no chance to repackage/recompile 1.4.x packages for the dapper or edgy release. I donno how they handle backports but maybe you can ask Barry (the Ubuntu guy) about that. I'll CC him to catch his attention. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx1.4.2 in kubuntu
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:37:14AM -0400, Richard Kleeman wrote: I tried to recompile lyx-1.4.2 packages for Dapper using the new Debian unstable packages. The packaging failed right at the end (no version number for lyx-common found). So I recompiled myself and used checkinstall to produce an interim package. You can get it here: http://www.math.nyu.edu/faculty/kleeman/dapper/lyx-1.4.2_1.4.2-1_i386.deb Before you install it (use sudo dpkg -i lyx-1.4.2_1.4.2-1_i386.deb) make sure that the standard dapper lyx packages are not installed (there are several). Is that package based on the Debian 1.4.2-1 oder -2 version? -1 was br0ken so you should not use that one. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx1.4.2 in kubuntu
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:32:38PM +0200, Christopher Winkler wrote: Am Montag, 31. Juli 2006 08:24 schrieb Christopher Winkler: Hello Christopher, my system: ubuntu dapper, i386 .. ,thank you for your help, but nothing helped... I thought the best thing was to try to compile it myself. What a nightmare! After googling for hours (with a 56k modem!) and resolving most of the missing dependencies, I ended up with this after compiling: ./configure --with-frontend=qt --with-qt-dir=/usr/lib/qt3 --with-version-suffix=-1.4.2 Where, please, are the qt libraries, what on earth is uic and what doesn't he recognise my moc binary although I have installed the moc-package? ARGG! Never been through this before ... My advise would be to install a pure Debian. There I can even provide you backported packages for Debian/sarge. I've no clue about what strange things they've br0ken in all those different *buntus. To be honest, if you pay me I'd even install *buntu of your choice and create packages for you. I guess that's not an option for you. ;) Sv*SCNR*en -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx1.4.2 in kubuntu
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:50:57PM +0200, Christopher Winkler wrote: Am Montag, 31. Juli 2006 22:44 schrieb Sven Hoexter: Hi Christopher, My advise would be to install a pure Debian. There I can even provide you backported packages for Debian/sarge. I've no clue about what strange things they've br0ken in all those different *buntus. Hey: I have a job, a wife and two children! I used to say bad things about my always running SuSE, but debian is not for mouse kickers(?) like me ... Hehe, it's not that hard. If you know one Unix/Linux system you know them all. Just an idea, maybe it cannot find the .h files for the qt lib. You didn't post the complete log for ./configure make so that's just a guess. Try to add something like --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 to your configure options. And a second hint: You can find all required build-depends if you take a look at the control file in the source package. As a third hint (donno if they do it this way in the *buntu universe): Install the meta-package build-essential which depends on the most common tools you need to compile software. So that's what you can get for free, you know about the other option. ;) Cheers, Sven Don't take me to serious today - I looked at way to much way to old bugs against the lyx Debian package. -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx1.4.2 in kubuntu
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 08:24:11AM +0200, Christopher Winkler wrote: > sorry for breaking the thread ... > new mailing programme ... > > Hello all, > > is there anything I have overseen in the mailing-list archive? > I cannot manage to install lyx 1.4.1. on ubuntu dapper, and I have found > no package hidden anywhere. > > Is there a secret about ubuntu still wanting to install lyx 1.3.7 per > default and, more important, is there a way to get 1.4.2 on my kubuntu > desktop (please do not tell me to compile it, I am completely new to > the debian thing, just switched over from an rpm-based distro) ... According to http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=lyx=names=1=all=all they only ship 1.4.1 within the upcoming "edgy" release and 1.3.7 in the dapper release. You've to take into account that Ubuntu and their derivates and sub distros are all based on Debian. As it took some time to get the packages in Debian back on track they had no chance to repackage/recompile 1.4.x packages for the dapper or edgy release. I donno how they handle backports but maybe you can ask Barry (the Ubuntu guy) about that. I'll CC him to catch his attention. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx1.4.2 in kubuntu
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:37:14AM -0400, Richard Kleeman wrote: > I tried to recompile lyx-1.4.2 packages for Dapper using the new Debian > unstable packages. The packaging failed right at the end (no version > number for lyx-common found). So I recompiled myself and used > checkinstall to produce an interim package. You can get it here: > > http://www.math.nyu.edu/faculty/kleeman/dapper/lyx-1.4.2_1.4.2-1_i386.deb > > Before you install it (use sudo dpkg -i lyx-1.4.2_1.4.2-1_i386.deb) make > sure that the standard dapper lyx packages are not installed (there are > several). Is that package based on the Debian 1.4.2-1 oder -2 version? -1 was br0ken so you should not use that one. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx1.4.2 in kubuntu
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:32:38PM +0200, Christopher Winkler wrote: > Am Montag, 31. Juli 2006 08:24 schrieb Christopher Winkler: Hello Christopher, > my system: ubuntu dapper, i386 > > .. ,thank you for your help, but nothing helped... > > I thought the best thing was to try to compile it myself. > What a nightmare! > > After googling for hours (with a 56k modem!) and resolving most of the > missing dependencies, I ended up with this after compiling: > ./configure --with-frontend=qt --with-qt-dir=/usr/lib/qt3 > --with-version-suffix=-1.4.2 > > Where, please, are the qt libraries, what on earth is uic and what > doesn't he recognise my moc binary although I have installed the > moc-package? > ARGG! Never been through this before ... My advise would be to install a pure Debian. There I can even provide you backported packages for Debian/sarge. I've no clue about what strange things they've br0ken in all those different *buntus. To be honest, if you pay me I'd even install *buntu of your choice and create packages for you. I guess that's not an option for you. ;) Sv*SCNR*en -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: lyx1.4.2 in kubuntu
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:50:57PM +0200, Christopher Winkler wrote: > Am Montag, 31. Juli 2006 22:44 schrieb Sven Hoexter: Hi Christopher, > > My advise would be to install a pure Debian. There I can even provide > > you backported packages for Debian/sarge. I've no clue about what > > strange things they've br0ken in all those different *buntus. > Hey: I have a job, a wife and two children! I used to say bad things > about my always running SuSE, but debian is not for mouse kickers(?) > like me ... Hehe, it's not that hard. If you know one Unix/Linux system you know them all. Just an idea, maybe it cannot find the .h files for the qt lib. You didn't post the complete log for ./configure && make so that's just a guess. Try to add something like --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 to your configure options. And a second hint: You can find all required build-depends if you take a look at the control file in the source package. As a third hint (donno if they do it this way in the *buntu universe): Install the meta-package build-essential which depends on the most common tools you need to compile software. So that's what you can get for free, you know about the other option. ;) Cheers, Sven Don't take me to serious today - I looked at way to much way to old bugs against the lyx Debian package. -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: 1.4.x (bin) on Dapper?
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 07:41:06PM +1000, Russell Davie wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:28:43 +0100 Sam Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, In the world of ubuntu, are there any binaries for Dapper main? Somewhere? Anyone, any idea? I have made some debs for Lyx1.4.1 in Dapper which are here : http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits As for Lyx1.4.2, I couldn't do this as the Debian diff file is not available. So I just built it from source in Dapper and Lyx works as promised :) Pelle promised to upload 1.4.2 soon a few days ago, so I guess he had some other important things to do in the meantime that stopped this plan. Additional there has been a compromise of gluck.d.o with a following lock down of all other debian.org machines and some problems with ftp-master IIRC. Anyway all you've to do is to check out the stuff from the svn repo and build it on your own. The basic steps should be something like this: mkdir -p pkg-lyx/build-area mkdir pkg-lyx/tarballs cd pkg-lyx/tarballs wget ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/lyx-1.4.2.tar.gz mv lyx-1.4.2.tar.gz lyx_1.4.2.orig.tar.gz cd .. svn co svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-lyx/lyx/trunk lyx-1.4.2 cd lyx-1.4.2 [modify what you need, most proberly changelog for your own version and maybe the frontend list in rules] svn-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot [or whatever you'd like to call dpkg-buildpackge with] HTH Sven And no I dont want to provide my own builds because the final Debian packages should arrive in a few days - so be patient and enjoy the sun :) -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: 1.4.x (bin) on Dapper?
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 07:41:06PM +1000, Russell Davie wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:28:43 +0100 Sam Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, In the world of ubuntu, are there any binaries for Dapper main? Somewhere? Anyone, any idea? I have made some debs for Lyx1.4.1 in Dapper which are here : http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits As for Lyx1.4.2, I couldn't do this as the Debian diff file is not available. So I just built it from source in Dapper and Lyx works as promised :) Pelle promised to upload 1.4.2 soon a few days ago, so I guess he had some other important things to do in the meantime that stopped this plan. Additional there has been a compromise of gluck.d.o with a following lock down of all other debian.org machines and some problems with ftp-master IIRC. Anyway all you've to do is to check out the stuff from the svn repo and build it on your own. The basic steps should be something like this: mkdir -p pkg-lyx/build-area mkdir pkg-lyx/tarballs cd pkg-lyx/tarballs wget ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/lyx-1.4.2.tar.gz mv lyx-1.4.2.tar.gz lyx_1.4.2.orig.tar.gz cd .. svn co svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-lyx/lyx/trunk lyx-1.4.2 cd lyx-1.4.2 [modify what you need, most proberly changelog for your own version and maybe the frontend list in rules] svn-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot [or whatever you'd like to call dpkg-buildpackge with] HTH Sven And no I dont want to provide my own builds because the final Debian packages should arrive in a few days - so be patient and enjoy the sun :) -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: 1.4.x (bin) on Dapper?
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 07:41:06PM +1000, Russell Davie wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:28:43 +0100 > Sam Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi guys, > > In the world of ubuntu, are there any binaries for Dapper main? > > Somewhere? Anyone, any idea? > > I have made some debs for Lyx1.4.1 in Dapper which are here : > http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits > > As for Lyx1.4.2, I couldn't do this as the Debian diff file is not > available. So I just built it from source in Dapper and Lyx works as > promised :) Pelle promised to upload 1.4.2 soon a few days ago, so I guess he had some other important things to do in the meantime that stopped this plan. Additional there has been a compromise of gluck.d.o with a following lock down of all other debian.org machines and some problems with ftp-master IIRC. Anyway all you've to do is to check out the stuff from the svn repo and build it on your own. The basic steps should be something like this: mkdir -p pkg-lyx/build-area mkdir pkg-lyx/tarballs cd pkg-lyx/tarballs wget ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/lyx-1.4.2.tar.gz mv lyx-1.4.2.tar.gz lyx_1.4.2.orig.tar.gz cd .. svn co svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-lyx/lyx/trunk lyx-1.4.2 cd lyx-1.4.2 [modify what you need, most proberly changelog for your own version and maybe the frontend list in rules] svn-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot [or whatever you'd like to call dpkg-buildpackge with] HTH Sven And no I dont want to provide my own builds because the final Debian packages should arrive in a few days - so be patient and enjoy the sun :) -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
LyX 1.4.1 backport for Debian/sarge avaible on backports.org
Hi, Pelles LyX 1.4.1 package entered Debian/testing (aka etch) a few days ago and no grave bugs have been reported so far. To complete the package set Daniel Baumann uploaded a backport of the 1.4.1-1 packages to www.backports.org for me. Dvipost entered Debian/unstable today and a backport can follow when it enters Debian/testing. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
LyX 1.4.1 backport for Debian/sarge avaible on backports.org
Hi, Pelles LyX 1.4.1 package entered Debian/testing (aka etch) a few days ago and no grave bugs have been reported so far. To complete the package set Daniel Baumann uploaded a backport of the 1.4.1-1 packages to www.backports.org for me. Dvipost entered Debian/unstable today and a backport can follow when it enters Debian/testing. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
LyX 1.4.1 backport for Debian/sarge avaible on backports.org
Hi, Pelles LyX 1.4.1 package entered Debian/testing (aka etch) a few days ago and no grave bugs have been reported so far. To complete the package set Daniel Baumann uploaded a backport of the 1.4.1-1 packages to www.backports.org for me. Dvipost entered Debian/unstable today and a backport can follow when it enters Debian/testing. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Pkg-lyx-devel] Re: dvipost (hopefully) ready for Debian
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:55:58PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: Sven Hoexter: Hi all, sorry for the delay but I had to attend a wedding party and a two birthday partys during the last days. Ok let's go for the second round. The package is again on: http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/dvipost/ So if you've some spare time please give it a try and if you're familiar with Debian packages please look over the source package aswell. Good work! Some suggestions: * It should be possible to have TeXlive installed instead of teTex. It should probably depend on tetex-bin | texlive-base-bin or something. Is this texlive stuff actually packaged within Debian? I cannot find a package with tex and live in the name. The only reference I can find is in the description of the tex-common package. * There are missing ending newlines in postinst and postrm. done. * Do you really need to create those directories listed in debian/dirs? usr/sbin was useless so I removed it. * The configure script checks things by running kpsewhich and tex. These are not listed in the Build-Depends. You should probably try to hardwire these values, or, if you must, build-depend on TeX. Commented that stuff out - patches/ file 03 and 04. * There are lintian errors. Please fix them. Those should be fixed now. I thought that running lintion on the .dsc file would check the source and the binary package. * The package is configured two times when using debuild (which uses dpkg-buildpackage). The problem seems to be the patch target dependency. You should probably move the dependency from the config.status target to the build target (before build-stamp). done. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Pkg-lyx-devel] Re: dvipost (hopefully) ready for Debian
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 05:21:42PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: Sven Hoexter: Ok let's go for the second round. The package is again on: http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/dvipost/ Great, I will look at it soon. Is this texlive stuff actually packaged within Debian? I cannot find a package with tex and live in the name. The only reference I can find is in the description of the tex-common package. $ apt-cache search texlive [ ... ] Found it after Georgs hint to look for experimental. An I thought sid is the bleeding-edge of software packaging ;) Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: [Pkg-lyx-devel] Re: dvipost (hopefully) ready for Debian
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:55:58PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: Sven Hoexter: Hi all, sorry for the delay but I had to attend a wedding party and a two birthday partys during the last days. Ok let's go for the second round. The package is again on: http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/dvipost/ So if you've some spare time please give it a try and if you're familiar with Debian packages please look over the source package aswell. Good work! Some suggestions: * It should be possible to have TeXlive installed instead of teTex. It should probably depend on tetex-bin | texlive-base-bin or something. Is this texlive stuff actually packaged within Debian? I cannot find a package with tex and live in the name. The only reference I can find is in the description of the tex-common package. * There are missing ending newlines in postinst and postrm. done. * Do you really need to create those directories listed in debian/dirs? usr/sbin was useless so I removed it. * The configure script checks things by running kpsewhich and tex. These are not listed in the Build-Depends. You should probably try to hardwire these values, or, if you must, build-depend on TeX. Commented that stuff out - patches/ file 03 and 04. * There are lintian errors. Please fix them. Those should be fixed now. I thought that running lintion on the .dsc file would check the source and the binary package. * The package is configured two times when using debuild (which uses dpkg-buildpackage). The problem seems to be the patch target dependency. You should probably move the dependency from the config.status target to the build target (before build-stamp). done. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Pkg-lyx-devel] Re: dvipost (hopefully) ready for Debian
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 05:21:42PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: Sven Hoexter: Ok let's go for the second round. The package is again on: http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/dvipost/ Great, I will look at it soon. Is this texlive stuff actually packaged within Debian? I cannot find a package with tex and live in the name. The only reference I can find is in the description of the tex-common package. $ apt-cache search texlive [ ... ] Found it after Georgs hint to look for experimental. An I thought sid is the bleeding-edge of software packaging ;) Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: [Pkg-lyx-devel] Re: dvipost (hopefully) ready for Debian
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:55:58PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: > Sven Hoexter: Hi all, sorry for the delay but I had to attend a wedding party and a two birthday partys during the last days. Ok let's go for the second round. The package is again on: http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/dvipost/ > > So if you've some spare time please give it a try and if you're > > familiar with Debian packages please look over the source package > > aswell. > > Good work! > > Some suggestions: > > * It should be possible to have TeXlive installed instead of teTex. It > should probably depend on tetex-bin | texlive-base-bin or something. Is this texlive stuff actually packaged within Debian? I cannot find a package with tex and live in the name. The only reference I can find is in the description of the tex-common package. > * There are missing ending newlines in postinst and postrm. done. > * Do you really need to create those directories listed in > debian/dirs? usr/sbin was useless so I removed it. > * The configure script checks things by running kpsewhich and > tex. These are not listed in the Build-Depends. You should probably > try to hardwire these values, or, if you must, build-depend on TeX. Commented that stuff out - patches/ file 03 and 04. > * There are lintian errors. Please fix them. Those should be fixed now. I thought that running lintion on the .dsc file would check the source and the binary package. > * The package is configured two times when using debuild (which uses > dpkg-buildpackage). The problem seems to be the patch target > dependency. You should probably move the dependency from the > config.status target to the build target (before build-stamp). done. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Pkg-lyx-devel] Re: dvipost (hopefully) ready for Debian
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 05:21:42PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: > Sven Hoexter: > > Ok let's go for the second round. > > The package is again on: > > http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/dvipost/ > > Great, I will look at it soon. > > > Is this texlive stuff actually packaged within Debian? I cannot find > > a package with tex and live in the name. The only reference I can find > > is in the description of the tex-common package. > > $ apt-cache search texlive [ ... ] Found it after Georgs hint to look for experimental. An I thought sid is the bleeding-edge of software packaging ;) Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: [Pkg-lyx-devel] Re: dvipost (hopefully) ready for Debian
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:55:58PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: Sven Hoexter: Hi all, yesterday I've been working on Matej Cepl's dvipost package so that it can stand the Debian QA and move into the main archive. So if you've some spare time please give it a try and if you're familiar with Debian packages please look over the source package aswell. Good work! *sigh* and still so many glitches left to workaround ... Some suggestions: * It should be possible to have TeXlive installed instead of teTex. It should probably depend on tetex-bin | texlive-base-bin or something. Oh I remember I've read something about TeXlive somewhere somewho. I definetly need to dig deeper here. Good point. BTW, is it really necessary to depend on TeX at all? Can't this package be used without TeX, if you have a DVI file? Maybe you should just recommend TeX instead? Well my Tex knowledge is very low (that's why I like to put Lyx between me and latex) but I think it's needed to register the style file dvipost.sty. So with my current knowledge I think Tex is required. * There are missing ending newlines in postinst and postrm. Hmpf fixed that in control, donno why I missed those two. Fixed now. * You should use dh_installtex instead of running texhash manually (I think). Have you read the TeX policy in the tex-common package? Also see the dh_installtex(1) manpage. I had to ask on the mentors mailinglist and Frank did not recommend dh_installtex. (hm I would like to copy and paste the link but somehow I'm unable to copy and paste from from elinks with gpm *grummel*) Reading the manpage it's talking about mapfiles and language files and the examples have nothing with .sty. As said above I've no clue about the inner workings of latex. * Do you really need to create those directories listed in debian/dirs? Hm not all of them. * The configure script checks things by running kpsewhich and tex. These are not listed in the Build-Depends. You should probably try to hardwire these values, or, if you must, build-depend on TeX. Sure, need to patch that out. Frank told me that those workarounds used in the configure script are ugly and wrong. * There are lintian errors. Please fix them. Hm with which options did you run lintian? * The package is configured two times when using debuild (which uses dpkg-buildpackage). The problem seems to be the patch target dependency. You should probably move the dependency from the config.status target to the build target (before build-stamp). Ah that's a little bit odd. We need to patch some things in configure and makefile.in so the patches have to be applied bevore the first configure run. Guess I've to re-read some things about dpatch. Thanks for your detailed feedback. Sv*back-to-work*en -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: [Pkg-lyx-devel] Re: dvipost (hopefully) ready for Debian
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:55:58PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: Sven Hoexter: Hi all, yesterday I've been working on Matej Cepl's dvipost package so that it can stand the Debian QA and move into the main archive. So if you've some spare time please give it a try and if you're familiar with Debian packages please look over the source package aswell. Good work! *sigh* and still so many glitches left to workaround ... Some suggestions: * It should be possible to have TeXlive installed instead of teTex. It should probably depend on tetex-bin | texlive-base-bin or something. Oh I remember I've read something about TeXlive somewhere somewho. I definetly need to dig deeper here. Good point. BTW, is it really necessary to depend on TeX at all? Can't this package be used without TeX, if you have a DVI file? Maybe you should just recommend TeX instead? Well my Tex knowledge is very low (that's why I like to put Lyx between me and latex) but I think it's needed to register the style file dvipost.sty. So with my current knowledge I think Tex is required. * There are missing ending newlines in postinst and postrm. Hmpf fixed that in control, donno why I missed those two. Fixed now. * You should use dh_installtex instead of running texhash manually (I think). Have you read the TeX policy in the tex-common package? Also see the dh_installtex(1) manpage. I had to ask on the mentors mailinglist and Frank did not recommend dh_installtex. (hm I would like to copy and paste the link but somehow I'm unable to copy and paste from from elinks with gpm *grummel*) Reading the manpage it's talking about mapfiles and language files and the examples have nothing with .sty. As said above I've no clue about the inner workings of latex. * Do you really need to create those directories listed in debian/dirs? Hm not all of them. * The configure script checks things by running kpsewhich and tex. These are not listed in the Build-Depends. You should probably try to hardwire these values, or, if you must, build-depend on TeX. Sure, need to patch that out. Frank told me that those workarounds used in the configure script are ugly and wrong. * There are lintian errors. Please fix them. Hm with which options did you run lintian? * The package is configured two times when using debuild (which uses dpkg-buildpackage). The problem seems to be the patch target dependency. You should probably move the dependency from the config.status target to the build target (before build-stamp). Ah that's a little bit odd. We need to patch some things in configure and makefile.in so the patches have to be applied bevore the first configure run. Guess I've to re-read some things about dpatch. Thanks for your detailed feedback. Sv*back-to-work*en -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: [Pkg-lyx-devel] Re: dvipost (hopefully) ready for Debian
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:55:58PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote: > Sven Hoexter: > > Hi all, > > yesterday I've been working on Matej Cepl's dvipost package > > so that it can stand the Debian QA and move into the main > > archive. > > > > So if you've some spare time please give it a try and if you're > > familiar with Debian packages please look over the source package > > aswell. > > Good work! *sigh* and still so many glitches left to workaround ... > Some suggestions: > > * It should be possible to have TeXlive installed instead of teTex. It > should probably depend on tetex-bin | texlive-base-bin or something. Oh I remember I've read something about TeXlive somewhere somewho. I definetly need to dig deeper here. Good point. > BTW, is it really necessary to depend on TeX at all? Can't this > package be used without TeX, if you have a DVI file? Maybe you > should just recommend TeX instead? Well my Tex knowledge is very low (that's why I like to put Lyx between me and latex) but I think it's needed to register the style file dvipost.sty. So with my current knowledge I think Tex is required. > * There are missing ending newlines in postinst and postrm. Hmpf fixed that in control, donno why I missed those two. Fixed now. > * You should use dh_installtex instead of running texhash manually (I > think). Have you read the TeX policy in the tex-common package? Also > see the dh_installtex(1) manpage. I had to ask on the mentors mailinglist and Frank did not recommend dh_installtex. (hm I would like to copy and paste the link but somehow I'm unable to copy and paste from from elinks with gpm *grummel*) Reading the manpage it's talking about mapfiles and language files and the examples have nothing with .sty. As said above I've no clue about the inner workings of latex. > * Do you really need to create those directories listed in > debian/dirs? Hm not all of them. > * The configure script checks things by running kpsewhich and > tex. These are not listed in the Build-Depends. You should probably > try to hardwire these values, or, if you must, build-depend on TeX. Sure, need to patch that out. Frank told me that those workarounds used in the configure script are ugly and wrong. > * There are lintian errors. Please fix them. Hm with which options did you run lintian? > * The package is configured two times when using debuild (which uses > dpkg-buildpackage). The problem seems to be the patch target > dependency. You should probably move the dependency from the > config.status target to the build target (before build-stamp). Ah that's a little bit odd. We need to patch some things in configure and makefile.in so the patches have to be applied bevore the first configure run. Guess I've to re-read some things about dpatch. Thanks for your detailed feedback. Sv*back-to-work*en -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
dvipost (hopefully) ready for Debian
Hi all, yesterday I've been working on Matej Cepl's dvipost package so that it can stand the Debian QA and move into the main archive. So if you've some spare time please give it a try and if you're familiar with Debian packages please look over the source package aswell. http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/dvipost/ I'm now out to university so flame when I come back ;) Oh and thanks to Matej for his work! Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
dvipost (hopefully) ready for Debian
Hi all, yesterday I've been working on Matej Cepl's dvipost package so that it can stand the Debian QA and move into the main archive. So if you've some spare time please give it a try and if you're familiar with Debian packages please look over the source package aswell. http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/dvipost/ I'm now out to university so flame when I come back ;) Oh and thanks to Matej for his work! Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
dvipost (hopefully) ready for Debian
Hi all, yesterday I've been working on Matej Cepl's dvipost package so that it can stand the Debian QA and move into the main archive. So if you've some spare time please give it a try and if you're familiar with Debian packages please look over the source package aswell. http://sven.stormbind.net/debian/dvipost/ I'm now out to university so flame when I come back ;) Oh and thanks to Matej for his work! Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 12:58:18PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: Sven Hoexter wrote: Hi, I'll take a look at your changes aswell but aehm why do you need to compile with gcc/g++ 4.1? I believe that this is the default compiler in unstable. Not yet. At the moment it's still 4.0.3. Regarding g++ 4.1 I found this FTBFS bug in the Debian BTS http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=357119 IIRC this is a boost bug that is fixed in 1.4.x. Ok. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 03:12:43PM +0200, Charles de Miramon wrote: Sven Hoexter wrote: On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 11:29:15AM +0200, Charles de Miramon wrote: Hi, NOTE: I think it's getting quite off-topic here. IMHO wie should move the package related discussion to this mailinglist: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-lyx-devel If you guys prefer to have it on the lyx mailinglist that's ok for me. Just wanted to ask before someone complains about off-topic traffic on a user list. I've started from Georg Baum's version but I made an ugly hack in debian/rules to force it to compile with gcc 4.1. I don't know how you should do it properly in Debian. I've updated the dependence fields also and made some little changes. IIRC setting CXX = g++-4.1 in the rules should work. I wanted something that would work for sarge and sid, so we could keep one file. A rule, saying on sarge use gcc 3.3 and on sid gcc 4.1 Indeed, that's ugly. A better way would be to force the unstable version to use g++ 4.1 (if realy needed) and then create a backport for backports.org that uses the default compiler or any other special compiler version needed. I'll take a look at your changes aswell but aehm why do you need to compile with gcc/g++ 4.1? A pointer to the thread would be enough so that I can catch up on that problem aswell. I've uploaded the total source package here : Thanks. (wow now I've at least 3 different versions to compare 8-) Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 12:58:18PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: Sven Hoexter wrote: Hi, I'll take a look at your changes aswell but aehm why do you need to compile with gcc/g++ 4.1? I believe that this is the default compiler in unstable. Not yet. At the moment it's still 4.0.3. Regarding g++ 4.1 I found this FTBFS bug in the Debian BTS http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=357119 IIRC this is a boost bug that is fixed in 1.4.x. Ok. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 03:12:43PM +0200, Charles de Miramon wrote: Sven Hoexter wrote: On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 11:29:15AM +0200, Charles de Miramon wrote: Hi, NOTE: I think it's getting quite off-topic here. IMHO wie should move the package related discussion to this mailinglist: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-lyx-devel If you guys prefer to have it on the lyx mailinglist that's ok for me. Just wanted to ask before someone complains about off-topic traffic on a user list. I've started from Georg Baum's version but I made an ugly hack in debian/rules to force it to compile with gcc 4.1. I don't know how you should do it properly in Debian. I've updated the dependence fields also and made some little changes. IIRC setting CXX = g++-4.1 in the rules should work. I wanted something that would work for sarge and sid, so we could keep one file. A rule, saying on sarge use gcc 3.3 and on sid gcc 4.1 Indeed, that's ugly. A better way would be to force the unstable version to use g++ 4.1 (if realy needed) and then create a backport for backports.org that uses the default compiler or any other special compiler version needed. I'll take a look at your changes aswell but aehm why do you need to compile with gcc/g++ 4.1? A pointer to the thread would be enough so that I can catch up on that problem aswell. I've uploaded the total source package here : Thanks. (wow now I've at least 3 different versions to compare 8-) Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 12:58:18PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > Sven Hoexter wrote: Hi, > > I'll take a look at your changes aswell but aehm why do you need to > > compile with gcc/g++ 4.1? > > I believe that this is the default compiler in unstable. Not yet. At the moment it's still 4.0.3. > > Regarding g++ 4.1 I found this FTBFS bug in the Debian BTS > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=357119 > > IIRC this is a boost bug that is fixed in 1.4.x. Ok. Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 03:12:43PM +0200, Charles de Miramon wrote: > Sven Hoexter wrote: > > On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 11:29:15AM +0200, Charles de Miramon wrote: Hi, NOTE: I think it's getting quite off-topic here. IMHO wie should move the package related discussion to this mailinglist: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-lyx-devel If you guys prefer to have it on the lyx mailinglist that's ok for me. Just wanted to ask before someone complains about off-topic traffic on a user list. > >> I've started from Georg Baum's version but I made an ugly hack in > >> debian/rules to force it to compile with gcc 4.1. I don't know how you > >> should do it properly in Debian. I've updated the dependence fields also > >> and made some little changes. > > IIRC setting "CXX = g++-4.1" in the rules should work. > I wanted something that would work for sarge and sid, so we could keep one > file. A rule, saying on sarge use gcc 3.3 and on sid gcc 4.1 Indeed, that's ugly. A better way would be to force the unstable version to use g++ 4.1 (if realy needed) and then create a backport for backports.org that uses the default compiler or any other special compiler version needed. > > I'll take a look at your changes aswell but aehm why do you need to > > compile with gcc/g++ 4.1? A pointer to the thread would be enough so that > > I can catch up on that problem aswell. > > I've uploaded the total source package here : Thanks. (wow now I've at least 3 different versions to compare 8-) Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
Hello, I'd like to see the Debian package in the archive back in sync with the upstream version. I contacted Erinn Clark yesterday (she's listed in the pkg-lyx[1] project on alioth.debian.org) and she told me that the package is in an orphaned state but just not marked beeing O. The other former maintainer, Rob Weir, is MIA. So I'm willing to take it over BUT my experience with Debian packaging is still quite low and limited to small packages[2]. Additional I've not followed the Lyx development for the last ~2 years. So any help would be highly appreciated. After a first look around I found that several people are hacking their own Debian packages so there must be some demand for new packages and people willing to do some work. Please raise your hand now guys! I would like to see the people interessted joining the pkg-lyx-devel mailinglist provided via alioth. If you don't like to join the mailinglist but like to contact me please do so. You can find information on how to contact me via IRC and several IM networks here [3]. Ok now let's go over to some more technical things :) ATM I'm looking for the lost ends while actualy using Lyx to get some university stuff done. Things I found out so far: - Lyx 1.4 compiles with the /debian/ dir from the 1.3.6 packages in the archive with only minor changes. One is about to change a Build-Dep from libaiksaurus-dev to libaiksaurus-1.2-dev and the other one was the 02. patch not to apply. Then it takes a lot of time to compile on my little bit aged Athlon 1,4Ghz *sigh* but in the end I got a working package for i386 *juhu*. - The /debian/ subdir from 1.3.6 seems to be in a good shape and is using dpatch so I will stay with it. There are some fix me notes in the rules file but that should not matter for the moment. - There is a patch for hppa in the patchlist from an NMU - would be nice to find out to which upstream this patch belongs. - There is a huge amount of old bugs in the Debian BTS which need to be checked. - I've read something about a gtk frontend and found it in the Lyx source but there is no configure option for it and it's not mentioned in the README/INSTALL files. What's that? How can we use it? Is it alpha stuff you should not use? Would be cool if someone could enlight me what's that all about. Things I haven't found out yet: - Is the lyx package maintained in a VCS? I'd like to go with subversion but I've to admit that I haven't had the time lately to find out how svn-buildpackage should be used. Hints for docs I should read are welcome :). - Is there a DD out in the wild internet willing to sponsor a new Lyx package? So I'm now getting back to my university stuff for a few hours and wait for some feedback. Cheers, Sven [1] http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-lyx/ [2] http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [3] http://sven.stormbind.net -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 10:24:06AM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: Sven Hoexter wrote: Hello Georg, Wow that's a fast reply :) I contacted Erinn Clark yesterday (she's listed in the pkg-lyx[1] project on alioth.debian.org) and she told me that the package is in an orphaned state but just not marked beeing O. The other former maintainer, Rob Weir, is MIA. What is MIA? Missing in action, he's not reachable and does not fix bugs. - The /debian/ subdir from 1.3.6 seems to be in a good shape and is using dpatch so I will stay with it. There are some fix me notes in the rules file but that should not matter for the moment. The 1.3.6 debian subdir needs some more fixes for 1.4.x. I did those, and you can see the result at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian#toc6. Note that small tweaks are needed for 1.4.2svn, I can provide an update if needed. Ah ok. How far is 1.4.2 from beeing released? I would like to stay with the final releases. - I've read something about a gtk frontend and found it in the Lyx source but there is no configure option for it and it's not mentioned in the README/INSTALL files. What's that? How can we use it? Is it alpha stuff you should not use? Would be cool if someone could enlight me what's that all about. It is not documented because it is experimental and not ready for use. Ok so I count that as not relevant for the moment so that the debian package will stay with the qt and xforms frontend. Or is xforms finaly deprecated now? - Is there a DD out in the wild internet willing to sponsor a new Lyx package? That is the biggest problem. I suggest you find somebody who is willing to do that before doing anything else, because we have enough unofficial packages already. Well my intention is definetly not to prepare another package which will finaly end in /dev/null. I'm quite optimistic to find someone who is willing to sponsor it. Maybe it would help if Erinn Clark orphaned the package officially. To my experience not realy. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 11:29:15AM +0200, Charles de Miramon wrote: Hi, I've started from Georg Baum's version but I made an ugly hack in debian/rules to force it to compile with gcc 4.1. I don't know how you should do it properly in Debian. I've updated the dependence fields also and made some little changes. IIRC setting CXX = g++-4.1 in the rules should work. I'll take a look at your changes aswell but aehm why do you need to compile with gcc/g++ 4.1? A pointer to the thread would be enough so that I can catch up on that problem aswell. Regarding g++ 4.1 I found this FTBFS bug in the Debian BTS http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=357119 Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
Hello, I'd like to see the Debian package in the archive back in sync with the upstream version. I contacted Erinn Clark yesterday (she's listed in the pkg-lyx[1] project on alioth.debian.org) and she told me that the package is in an orphaned state but just not marked beeing O. The other former maintainer, Rob Weir, is MIA. So I'm willing to take it over BUT my experience with Debian packaging is still quite low and limited to small packages[2]. Additional I've not followed the Lyx development for the last ~2 years. So any help would be highly appreciated. After a first look around I found that several people are hacking their own Debian packages so there must be some demand for new packages and people willing to do some work. Please raise your hand now guys! I would like to see the people interessted joining the pkg-lyx-devel mailinglist provided via alioth. If you don't like to join the mailinglist but like to contact me please do so. You can find information on how to contact me via IRC and several IM networks here [3]. Ok now let's go over to some more technical things :) ATM I'm looking for the lost ends while actualy using Lyx to get some university stuff done. Things I found out so far: - Lyx 1.4 compiles with the /debian/ dir from the 1.3.6 packages in the archive with only minor changes. One is about to change a Build-Dep from libaiksaurus-dev to libaiksaurus-1.2-dev and the other one was the 02. patch not to apply. Then it takes a lot of time to compile on my little bit aged Athlon 1,4Ghz *sigh* but in the end I got a working package for i386 *juhu*. - The /debian/ subdir from 1.3.6 seems to be in a good shape and is using dpatch so I will stay with it. There are some fix me notes in the rules file but that should not matter for the moment. - There is a patch for hppa in the patchlist from an NMU - would be nice to find out to which upstream this patch belongs. - There is a huge amount of old bugs in the Debian BTS which need to be checked. - I've read something about a gtk frontend and found it in the Lyx source but there is no configure option for it and it's not mentioned in the README/INSTALL files. What's that? How can we use it? Is it alpha stuff you should not use? Would be cool if someone could enlight me what's that all about. Things I haven't found out yet: - Is the lyx package maintained in a VCS? I'd like to go with subversion but I've to admit that I haven't had the time lately to find out how svn-buildpackage should be used. Hints for docs I should read are welcome :). - Is there a DD out in the wild internet willing to sponsor a new Lyx package? So I'm now getting back to my university stuff for a few hours and wait for some feedback. Cheers, Sven [1] http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-lyx/ [2] http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [3] http://sven.stormbind.net -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 10:24:06AM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: Sven Hoexter wrote: Hello Georg, Wow that's a fast reply :) I contacted Erinn Clark yesterday (she's listed in the pkg-lyx[1] project on alioth.debian.org) and she told me that the package is in an orphaned state but just not marked beeing O. The other former maintainer, Rob Weir, is MIA. What is MIA? Missing in action, he's not reachable and does not fix bugs. - The /debian/ subdir from 1.3.6 seems to be in a good shape and is using dpatch so I will stay with it. There are some fix me notes in the rules file but that should not matter for the moment. The 1.3.6 debian subdir needs some more fixes for 1.4.x. I did those, and you can see the result at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian#toc6. Note that small tweaks are needed for 1.4.2svn, I can provide an update if needed. Ah ok. How far is 1.4.2 from beeing released? I would like to stay with the final releases. - I've read something about a gtk frontend and found it in the Lyx source but there is no configure option for it and it's not mentioned in the README/INSTALL files. What's that? How can we use it? Is it alpha stuff you should not use? Would be cool if someone could enlight me what's that all about. It is not documented because it is experimental and not ready for use. Ok so I count that as not relevant for the moment so that the debian package will stay with the qt and xforms frontend. Or is xforms finaly deprecated now? - Is there a DD out in the wild internet willing to sponsor a new Lyx package? That is the biggest problem. I suggest you find somebody who is willing to do that before doing anything else, because we have enough unofficial packages already. Well my intention is definetly not to prepare another package which will finaly end in /dev/null. I'm quite optimistic to find someone who is willing to sponsor it. Maybe it would help if Erinn Clark orphaned the package officially. To my experience not realy. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 11:29:15AM +0200, Charles de Miramon wrote: Hi, I've started from Georg Baum's version but I made an ugly hack in debian/rules to force it to compile with gcc 4.1. I don't know how you should do it properly in Debian. I've updated the dependence fields also and made some little changes. IIRC setting CXX = g++-4.1 in the rules should work. I'll take a look at your changes aswell but aehm why do you need to compile with gcc/g++ 4.1? A pointer to the thread would be enough so that I can catch up on that problem aswell. Regarding g++ 4.1 I found this FTBFS bug in the Debian BTS http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=357119 Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
Hello, I'd like to see the Debian package in the archive back in sync with the upstream version. I contacted Erinn Clark yesterday (she's listed in the pkg-lyx[1] project on alioth.debian.org) and she told me that the package is in an orphaned state but just not marked beeing O. The other former maintainer, Rob Weir, is MIA. So I'm willing to take it over BUT my experience with Debian packaging is still quite low and limited to small packages[2]. Additional I've not followed the Lyx development for the last ~2 years. So any help would be highly appreciated. After a first look around I found that several people are hacking their own Debian packages so there must be some demand for new packages and people willing to do some work. Please raise your hand now guys! I would like to see the people interessted joining the pkg-lyx-devel mailinglist provided via alioth. If you don't like to join the mailinglist but like to contact me please do so. You can find information on how to contact me via IRC and several IM networks here [3]. Ok now let's go over to some more technical things :) ATM I'm looking for the lost ends while actualy using Lyx to get some university stuff done. Things I found out so far: - Lyx 1.4 compiles with the /debian/ dir from the 1.3.6 packages in the archive with only minor changes. One is about to change a Build-Dep from libaiksaurus-dev to libaiksaurus-1.2-dev and the other one was the 02. patch not to apply. Then it takes a lot of time to compile on my little bit aged Athlon 1,4Ghz *sigh* but in the end I got a working package for i386 *juhu*. - The /debian/ subdir from 1.3.6 seems to be in a good shape and is using dpatch so I will stay with it. There are some fix me notes in the rules file but that should not matter for the moment. - There is a patch for hppa in the patchlist from an NMU - would be nice to find out to which upstream this patch belongs. - There is a huge amount of old bugs in the Debian BTS which need to be checked. - I've read something about a gtk frontend and found it in the Lyx source but there is no configure option for it and it's not mentioned in the README/INSTALL files. What's that? How can we use it? Is it alpha stuff you should not use? Would be cool if someone could enlight me what's that all about. Things I haven't found out yet: - Is the lyx package maintained in a VCS? I'd like to go with subversion but I've to admit that I haven't had the time lately to find out how svn-buildpackage should be used. Hints for docs I should read are welcome :). - Is there a DD out in the wild internet willing to sponsor a new Lyx package? So I'm now getting back to my university stuff for a few hours and wait for some feedback. Cheers, Sven [1] http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-lyx/ [2] http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [3] http://sven.stormbind.net -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 10:24:06AM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > Sven Hoexter wrote: Hello Georg, Wow that's a fast reply :) > > I contacted Erinn Clark yesterday (she's listed in the pkg-lyx[1] project > > on alioth.debian.org) and she told me that the package is in an orphaned > > state but just not marked beeing O. The other former maintainer, Rob Weir, > > is MIA. > > What is MIA? Missing in action, he's not reachable and does not fix bugs. > > - The /debian/ subdir from 1.3.6 seems to be in a good shape and is using > > dpatch so > > I will stay with it. There are some fix me notes in the rules file but > > that should not matter for the moment. > > The 1.3.6 debian subdir needs some more fixes for 1.4.x. I did those, and > you can see the result at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian#toc6. Note > that small tweaks are needed for 1.4.2svn, I can provide an update if > needed. Ah ok. How far is 1.4.2 from beeing released? I would like to stay with the final releases. > > - I've read something about a gtk frontend and found it in the Lyx source > > but there is > > no configure option for it and it's not mentioned in the README/INSTALL > > files. What's that? How can we use it? Is it alpha stuff you should not > > use? Would be cool if someone could enlight me what's that all about. > > It is not documented because it is experimental and not ready for use. Ok so I count that as not relevant for the moment so that the debian package will stay with the qt and xforms frontend. Or is xforms finaly deprecated now? > > - Is there a DD out in the wild internet willing to sponsor a new Lyx > > package? > > That is the biggest problem. I suggest you find somebody who is willing to > do that before doing anything else, because we have enough unofficial > packages already. Well my intention is definetly not to prepare another package which will finaly end in /dev/null. I'm quite optimistic to find someone who is willing to sponsor it. > Maybe it would help if Erinn Clark orphaned the package > officially. To my experience not realy. Cheers, Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Let's get the Lyx Debian pkg back in sync with upstream
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 11:29:15AM +0200, Charles de Miramon wrote: Hi, > I've started from Georg Baum's version but I made an ugly hack in > debian/rules to force it to compile with gcc 4.1. I don't know how you > should do it properly in Debian. I've updated the dependence fields also > and made some little changes. IIRC setting "CXX = g++-4.1" in the rules should work. I'll take a look at your changes aswell but aehm why do you need to compile with gcc/g++ 4.1? A pointer to the thread would be enough so that I can catch up on that problem aswell. Regarding g++ 4.1 I found this FTBFS bug in the Debian BTS http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=357119 Sven -- If you won't forgive me the rest of my life Let me apologize while I'm still alive I know it's time to face all of my past mistakes [Less than Jake - Rest Of My Life]
Re: Installing LyX
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 02:05:41PM +0100, Ivan Latorre wrote: Hi, How do I install LyX? I've unpacked the file lyx-1.2.2.tar.gz (now the LyX folder is /usr/local/lyx-1.2.2). Hm quite old, I suggest using the recent version 1.3.1 or a package from your distribution. Then I've typed ./configure and a error message about /dev/null appeared. Please quote the whole error message. The readme file included in the LyX directory has poorly instructions about the LyX installation: Unpack it and run it is what it is said in the How do I install a binary distribution of LyX?. Well you've a source distribution and not a binary dist. Normal behaviour for a source installation is to do a ./configure --help Read it, understand it, configure with the needed flags, make and make install. Well if you wan't plain standard and your system has all the need include files and libs installed a simple ./configure make su make install should work Sven -- It really sucks to give your heart to a girl You want to know her like she knows the whole world But 10 seconds in, it's obvious, your going nowhere... [Bowling for Soup - Drunk Enough To Dance - I Don't Wanna Rock]
Re: Advantages of qt over xforms?
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 05:08:50PM +0100, Davor Cengija wrote: Hi, I see many people are using (or at least, trying to use) qt version of LyX. hehe :) What are the qt version's advantages over the xforms one? I successfully compiled v1.3 with qt but had some problems displaying latin-2 characters on the screen and I really really don't feel like tweaking it endlessly (no problems in KDE, though). Since xforms version works out of the box with latin-2, I dropped qt and recompiled xforms. Am I missing something? Some killer feature? :-) Well for me the killer feature is font anti aliasing. Ok this isn't something important to get work done but without it looks quite ugly. Another important thing is that the xforms menus behave a little bit different then expectet. Sometimes it's just hanging a little bit. Maybe I'm too jung to see the real beauty in this old unix stuff or I've used KDE too long ;). Hm relatet to this I've startet with fvwm2, switched then to KDE 1.0. ATM I'm using on most systems blackbox with quite a bunch of kde tools. So IMHO it's a nicer looking and a more intuitive use that let me favour qt instead of xforms. Sven -- It really sucks to give your heart to a girl You want to know her like she knows the whole world But 10 seconds in, it's obvious, your going nowhere... [Bowling for Soup - Drunk Enough To Dance - I Don't Wanna Rock]
Re: Installing LyX
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 02:05:41PM +0100, Ivan Latorre wrote: Hi, How do I install LyX? I've unpacked the file lyx-1.2.2.tar.gz (now the LyX folder is /usr/local/lyx-1.2.2). Hm quite old, I suggest using the recent version 1.3.1 or a package from your distribution. Then I've typed ./configure and a error message about /dev/null appeared. Please quote the whole error message. The readme file included in the LyX directory has poorly instructions about the LyX installation: Unpack it and run it is what it is said in the How do I install a binary distribution of LyX?. Well you've a source distribution and not a binary dist. Normal behaviour for a source installation is to do a ./configure --help Read it, understand it, configure with the needed flags, make and make install. Well if you wan't plain standard and your system has all the need include files and libs installed a simple ./configure make su make install should work Sven -- It really sucks to give your heart to a girl You want to know her like she knows the whole world But 10 seconds in, it's obvious, your going nowhere... [Bowling for Soup - Drunk Enough To Dance - I Don't Wanna Rock]
Re: Advantages of qt over xforms?
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 05:08:50PM +0100, Davor Cengija wrote: Hi, I see many people are using (or at least, trying to use) qt version of LyX. hehe :) What are the qt version's advantages over the xforms one? I successfully compiled v1.3 with qt but had some problems displaying latin-2 characters on the screen and I really really don't feel like tweaking it endlessly (no problems in KDE, though). Since xforms version works out of the box with latin-2, I dropped qt and recompiled xforms. Am I missing something? Some killer feature? :-) Well for me the killer feature is font anti aliasing. Ok this isn't something important to get work done but without it looks quite ugly. Another important thing is that the xforms menus behave a little bit different then expectet. Sometimes it's just hanging a little bit. Maybe I'm too jung to see the real beauty in this old unix stuff or I've used KDE too long ;). Hm relatet to this I've startet with fvwm2, switched then to KDE 1.0. ATM I'm using on most systems blackbox with quite a bunch of kde tools. So IMHO it's a nicer looking and a more intuitive use that let me favour qt instead of xforms. Sven -- It really sucks to give your heart to a girl You want to know her like she knows the whole world But 10 seconds in, it's obvious, your going nowhere... [Bowling for Soup - Drunk Enough To Dance - I Don't Wanna Rock]
Re: Installing LyX
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 02:05:41PM +0100, Ivan Latorre wrote: Hi, > How do I install LyX? > I've unpacked the file lyx-1.2.2.tar.gz (now the LyX folder is > /usr/local/lyx-1.2.2). Hm quite old, I suggest using the recent version 1.3.1 or a package from your distribution. > Then I've typed ./configure and a error message about /dev/null appeared. Please quote the whole error message. > The readme file included in the LyX directory has poorly instructions > about the LyX installation: > "Unpack it and run it" is what it is said in the "How do I install a > binary distribution of LyX?". Well you've a source distribution and not a binary dist. Normal behaviour for a source installation is to do a ./configure --help Read it, understand it, configure with the needed flags, make and make install. Well if you wan't plain standard and your system has all the need include files and libs installed a simple ./configure && make su make install should work Sven -- It really sucks to give your heart to a girl You want to know her like she knows the whole world But 10 seconds in, it's obvious, your going nowhere... [Bowling for Soup - Drunk Enough To Dance - I Don't Wanna Rock]
Re: Advantages of qt over xforms?
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 05:08:50PM +0100, Davor Cengija wrote: Hi, > I see many people are using (or at least, trying to use) qt version of LyX. hehe :) > What are the qt version's advantages over the xforms one? > I successfully compiled v1.3 with qt but had some problems displaying > latin-2 characters on the screen and I really really don't feel like > tweaking it endlessly (no problems in KDE, though). Since xforms version > works out of the box with latin-2, I dropped qt and recompiled xforms. Am I > missing something? Some killer feature? :-) Well for me the killer feature is font anti aliasing. Ok this isn't something important to get work done but without it looks quite ugly. Another important thing is that the xforms menus behave a little bit different then expectet. Sometimes it's just "hanging" a little bit. Maybe I'm too jung to see the real beauty in this old unix stuff or I've used KDE too long ;). Hm relatet to this I've startet with fvwm2, switched then to KDE 1.0. ATM I'm using on most systems blackbox with quite a bunch of kde tools. So IMHO it's a nicer looking and a more intuitive use that let me favour qt instead of xforms. Sven -- It really sucks to give your heart to a girl You want to know her like she knows the whole world But 10 seconds in, it's obvious, your going nowhere... [Bowling for Soup - Drunk Enough To Dance - I Don't Wanna Rock]
