Re: Few bits about netiquette (was: Drawing an arc)
Le 20/10/2022 à 09:07, Lorenzo Bertini a écrit : My two unrequested cents. This is a 15 mail chain where: 1. Poster is nice, gives MWE and image with result. 2. An equally nice person gives a meaningful answer linking a library and even providing an example. This could have stopped here. 3. One person complains and spawns a 12 mail conversation about the legitimacy of the question, ultimately pondering Lyx's netiquette. For me personally, in a list usually so polite and spam free... I could not agree more. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document
Le 08/04/2022 à 08:18, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit : are you saying, the lyx2lyx is changing in the 2.4.x? The LyX format itself changes regularly during the 2.4.0dev timeline. lyx2lyx is updated simultaneously. When 2.4.0 is released, the format will be fixed and lyx2lyx (barring bugs) will stay the same during the lifetime of the branch. The only exception is that the last 2.4 version will get an updated lyx2lyx that can read the 2.5 format. Likewise, LyX 2.3.7 will be able to read and produce the 2.4.0 format. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: [Important] New behavior for spam handling on this list
Le 07/04/2022 à 10:12, Steve Litt via lyx-users a écrit : I'd suggest you put it back the way it was. I'm on 30+ FOSS mailing lists, and can't police everything to see that it goes through. If some AI algorithm somewhere decides I'm spam because of my email provider or whatever, I'm just writing into the wind, wasting a lot of time. I suggest that we wait until this actually happens :) I understand your point, and I plan to be careful about it. This is why lyx-users is the last of our lists that I reconfigure. What I really wanted was to apply the anti-spam filter only to non-subscriber, but mailman does not allow for that as I understand it. And what's the supposed upside? So non-subscribers can post. Look at any netiquette guide and they'll roundly catcall the clowns who begin or end their message with "please CC me because I'm not on the list." The upside is to try to be more welcoming to new users. It is not like we have too many users, do we? As in my answer above, I agree that we shall reconsider if things become unpleasant. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: [Important] New behavior for spam handling on this list
Le 06/04/2022 à 16:42, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit : I have not gotten yet an answer to my mail March 31 2022; perhaps it went into the spam? No, it fell through the cracks because there are few of us active these days. Sorry, JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: lyx not a readable Lyx document
Le 31/03/2022 à 10:48, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit : I posted this already under tmp/lyx not a readable file (01March22) The error message: /tmp/lyx_tmpdir.MQUsZMBvAPQl/Buffer_convertLyXFormatwrdYvM.lyx is not a readable LyX document. since quite a number of my older (March 22) lyx files are affected and I can't open them, I would very much appreciate if somebody could have a look at it. I found 2 lyx files close to each other, one of which gives the error message above, the other one is alright. I could send both privately (because of the size and the content) to somebody for checking them. I use lyx 2.4.dev under Debian. Sorry for not answering earlier, I was busy at the time and then forgot. Please send the two files to me. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
[Important] New behavior for spam handling on this list
Dear all, Until now, the handling of the list was like: messages from subscribers go through, other messages get discarded. There is actually a way to filter e-mails marked as spam, and I have already changed all our other lists to take advantage of this information. Today it is lyx-users' turn. The new behavior is: * spams are automatically discarded; please notify the list if a message of yours just disappears. It seems to work correctly on the other lists that we have; * members posts not qualified as spam go through as usual; * remaining non-member posts are held for moderation. The big advantage is that now non-subscribers will be able to post messages (with a low amount of manual moderation from my side). Comments welcome. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: tmp dir full??
Le 22/03/2022 à 16:08, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit : I get this message LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpdir.DATBScmuopZF/lyx_tmpbuf5' (Disk is full maybe?) However wolfgang@Fuji:/tmp$ df What does "df /tmp" say? Is there a permission problem on the file? JMarc Dateisystem 1K-Blöcke Benutzt Verfügbar Verw% Eingehängt auf udev 1909644 0 1909644 0% /dev tmpfs 386516 1420 385096 1% /run /dev/sda2 225214052 131821964 81882176 62% / tmpfs 1932564 0 1932564 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 5120 4 5116 1% /run/lock /dev/sda1 523248 12236 511012 3% /boot/efi tmpfs 386512 164 386348 1% /run/user/1000 what to do? Wolfgang -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX for Mac
Le 18/02/2022 à 23:46, Christopher Menzel via lyx-users a écrit : On 18 Feb 2022, at 1:46 , Tom Goldring via lyx-users wrote: I have version 2.3.6.2 on my MacBook Pro. I consider it a poor substitute for the Windows version. I can't turn off the blinking cursor (extremely annoying!), I can't change the background color (white background gives me a headache), hotkeys don't work, etc. Is there an alternative binary that I could download? Not sure what the problems are there but, for the record, I use the LyX 2.3.6.2 binaries from lyx.org on both my MacBook Pro (M1 chip) and a Windows laptop and the functionality is pretty much identical. It does appear that you are stuck with a blinking cursor (since that’s an OS level thing), but I have no problem changing the background color (did you uncheck “Use system colors”?), and cursor movement keys and other shortcuts work identically in both versions. (Maybe you mean something more by “hotkeys”?) Hints: * hotkeys are somewhat different since one uses the Command key instead of Ctrl at least * cursor movement is slightly different to match what is expected on a mac, but this is controllable through "Preferences>Editing>Use mac-style cursor movement". * indeed to change the background (instead of the OS one), uncheck "Use System colors". JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Useful to know how many branch insets are used?
Le 11/02/2022 à 20:48, Scott Kostyshak via lyx-users a écrit : However, I wonder if it would be useful more generally to display in Document > Settings > Branches how many times each branch is used (i.e., how many insets of each branch there are). It would be a column, along with the current columns "Activated", "Color", and "Filename Suffix". For example, one could sort the branches by clicking on the column header. Would others find this useful? I'm guessing it's just me and maybe one or two others, in which case it might be best not to propose this feature on lyx-devel and just take the easy approach of writing the Python script. Nonetheless I thought I would ask for feedback since branches are such a flexible tool I'm not sure how others use them. While I am not sure I would use it, it is pretty easy to implement in the updateBuffer machinery. I can give guidance if needed. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: pdf (lua) of a lyx document
Le 04/02/2022 à 11:22, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit : Jürgen, I did send the document to Jean-Marc privately because of its size on 2 Feb 2022 17:50 Should I send it to you too? Wolfgang, I am very sorry, but I cannot find this message of yours. Anyway, the best is indeed that you send it to Jürgen. He is the one who will know how to fix the issue. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: pdf (lua) of a lyx document
Le 04/02/2022 à 11:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller via lyx-users a écrit : Am Freitag, dem 04.02.2022 um 11:23 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes via lyx-users: I missed this test indeed. But what about line 1772 of output_latex.cpp? I missed this occurrence. Yes, here the test seems to be missing. Is this the place Wolfgang's test file points to? I have no idea, all I see is the assertion in a header file. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: pdf (lua) of a lyx document
Le 04/02/2022 à 10:02, Jürgen Spitzmüller via lyx-users a écrit : Am Mittwoch, dem 02.02.2022 um 16:47 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes via lyx-users: The place where this pop() method is used (popLanguageName) is related to our use of nested languages. And indeed, it does not check that some language has been saved before pop-ing it. But we check before all uses of popLanguageName() that lang_switch_depth_ (which is the stack at stake here) is non-empty via langOpenedAtThisLevel(). So from the code, I don't see why that can happen. I missed this test indeed. But what about line 1772 of output_latex.cpp? I see also Font::latexWriteEndChanges and Paragraph.cpp:2808 that are not very clear. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: pdf (lua) of a lyx document
Le 02/02/2022 à 09:48, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit : I use lyx 2.4.0dev (Debian) starting lyx from a terminal, selecting a certain document and trying to view it by export pdflua leads to this in the terminal wolfgang@Fuji:~/Dokumente/PUBLIKATIONEN-EIGENE/A-SP-2022$ lyx qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 5 (BadAtom), sequence: 597, resource id: 0, major code: 20 (GetProperty), minor code: 0 Warning: Failed to produce 1 preview snippet(s) /usr/include/c++/10/bits/stl_stack.h:274: void std::stack<_Tp, _Sequence>::pop() [with _Tp = int; _Sequence = std::__debug::dequestd::allocator >]: Assertion '__builtin_expect(!this->empty(), true)' failed. Abgebrochen Wolfgang, could you share the document that causes issues (at least privately)? The assertion above (I ignore the QXcbConnection stuff for now) means that stack::pop() is called on a stack which is already empty (this methods removes one object from a stack). In our code, there are two places where such a stack is used: output_latex.cpp (LaTeX output) and output_xhtml.cpp (HTML output). Since your document is exported to late for LuaLaTeX, it has to be the former. The place where this pop() method is used (popLanguageName) is related to our use of nested languages. And indeed, it does not check that some language has been saved before pop-ing it. At this point, having a document that triggers the issue would be very useful. Then I am sure that Jürgen or Enrico will be able to take over. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: pdf (lua) of a lyx document
Le 02/02/2022 à 10:05, José Abílio Matos via lyx-users a écrit : On Wednesday, 2 February 2022 08.48.18 WET Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users wrote: I use lyx 2.4.0dev (Debian) starting lyx from a terminal, selecting a certain document and trying to view it by export pdflua leads to this in the terminal wolfgang@Fuji:~/Dokumente/PUBLIKATIONEN-EIGENE/A-SP-2022$ lyx qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 5 (BadAtom), sequence: 597, resource id: 0, major code: 20 (GetProperty), minor code: 0 Warning: Failed to produce 1 preview snippet(s) /usr/include/c++/10/bits/stl_stack.h:274: void std::stack<_Tp, _Sequence>::pop() [with _Tp = int; _Sequence = std::__debug::deque >]: Assertion '__builtin_expect(!this->empty(), true)' failed. I had reported before under lyx 2.4.0dev crashes and wonder whether it is the same issue. Yes probably. What should I do? From the build directory (tip: you can run LyX from there without installing): 1/ make sure that you have pulled the latest changes from git and built them 2/ run "gdb src/lyx" 3/ when you see the "(gdb)" prompt, type the following commands catch throw run [do the crashing thing] bt 4/ send the output of the bt command f you have issues with thunderbird, try to close it before debugging. p.s. if I compile lyx again, should I use ./configure --enable-debug since I am not familiar with gdb? Usually this type of discussion are more appropriate in lyx-devel mailing list. Indeed. But encouraging users to use latest version is good. But I am not sure that this particular instance is encouraging :) With that said if you use --enable-debug use also --enable-stdlib-debug that it will help as well. These are on by default with development builds. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: lyx 2.4.0dev crashes
Le 28/01/2022 à 16:47, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit : < Am 28.01.22 um 16:36 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes via lyx-users: Le 28/01/2022 à 16:34, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit : Neither do I. But usually it is due to me, doing something wrong I have seen total hangs with thunderbird, until I disabled hardware acceleration. JMarc Can't recall, that I enabled hardware acceleration. It is on by default these days. I can start lyx again, the document where it hung, has .lyx# I tried to use view other formats view PDF(LuaTeX) for a pdf output of the lyx file when the trouble started. It might have to do with this? I don't know... And I do not like the XCB errors tht are shown, either. Sorry. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: lyx 2.4.0dev crashes
Le 28/01/2022 à 16:34, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit : Neither do I. But usually it is due to me, doing something wrong I have seen total hangs with thunderbird, until I disabled hardware acceleration. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: lyx 2.4.0dev crashes
Le 28/01/2022 à 16:15, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit : [New Thread 0x7fffc1ffb700 (LWP 3207)] qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 5 (BadAtom), sequence: 598, resource id: 0, major code: 20 (GetProperty), minor code: 0 No crash? JMarc Got stuck, as described at 16:12o'clock I don't like that... JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: lyx 2.4.0dev crashes
Le 28/01/2022 à 16:01, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit : After you see that prompt "(gdb)", then type "run" and press . Scott Here is the output: Starting program: /usr/local/bin/lyx [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1". [New Thread 0x72aad700 (LWP 3194)] ... [New Thread 0x7fffc1ffb700 (LWP 3207)] qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 5 (BadAtom), sequence: 598, resource id: 0, major code: 20 (GetProperty), minor code: 0 No crash? JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: lyx 2.4.0dev crashes
Le 28/01/2022 à 11:23, Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users a écrit : on a terminal $ lyx but it crashes with this output on the terminal: qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 5 (BadAtom), sequence: 598, resource id: 0, major code: 20 (GetProperty), minor code: 0 /usr/include/c++/10/bits/stl_stack.h:274: void std::stack<_Tp, _Sequence>::pop() [with _Tp = int; _Sequence = std::__debug::dequestd::allocator >]: Assertion '__builtin_expect(!this->empty(), true)' failed. Abgebrochen what should I do? Can you run it under gdb? gdb lyx run [crash] bt JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Backing up Lyx.
Le 07/01/2022 à 05:23, Joseph Hesse via lyx-users a écrit : Hello, I am a new lyx user. I want to know what lyx files to back up so, if necessary, I can install them on a new computer. I am using Linux and besides the document I am working on, do I have to save "~/.config/LyX/lyx.conf" and "~/.lyx"? I'd says the important stuff is in "~/.lyx". The conf thing is the session settings (window size...), which may be useful but may also not. The part that makes life difficult is the different packages installed on the two Linux installation, especially since LyX adapts to whatever is available. I do not have specific tips on how to handle that, though. If you transfer the .lyx directory, do not forget to run "tools>reconfigure" on the new system. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: A question about the macOS warning message
Le 04/01/2022 à 16:00, R. H. van der Gaag via lyx-users a écrit : Launching LyX on macOS 12.1 (Monterey) causes a warning to appear, saying that in future OS versions, the application will no longer run, and that it should be updated. Is anyone working on this? I tried to find indications that this was so on the website, but to no avail. My dissertation is in LyX, and it would be a problem is updating my Mac’s system software would disrupt the work. Thanks in advance for any help/advice. Hello, we (not me actually) are working on it currently. This a question of having python3 versus python2 available. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: User list server settings
Le 16/12/2021 à 18:23, Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users a écrit : Thanks JMarc. That sheds some light. It is quite curious that the change affects different recipients in different ways, even when we use the same mail client (though perhaps not with the same email provider). In any case, while I would prefer to have the proper sender display back, if that can't be done I can accept the "new normal" as the price of avoiding your being spammed. :-) I do review a few dozen blocked messages per day, just to see whether there is something legitimate in there. Usually there is not. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: User list server settings
Le 16/12/2021 à 05:13, Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users a écrit : Hi all, Did a gremlin mess with server settings for this list? For the last few days, every message I've gotten has had "mailing list" (lyx-users@lists.lyx.org) in both From and To fields, which means my mail client no longer shows who the sender was. (The sender's name and address are in the "Reply to" field.) In contrast, the developer list continues to behave itself, with the sender's name in the From field and "LyX Developers" in the To field. I am not sure if I would qualify this as a gremlin, but one of the people from OSUOSL.org (which gracefully hosts these lists and our server) did tweak this mailing list. Why did such a thing happen? Well, every time our friend Valdemaras (aka sov...@yahoo.com) posted a message on the list, I got a bounce from every subscriber to this list who use a yahoo-based ISP (that's 40 people who did not get the message). This with an error message about spam and DMARC that I am not sure to understand. As I do not understand why Valdemaras is our only user who freaks out yahoo. So we can try to tweak again and better the list, but no promises. And if there is a specialist of mailman reading this, hints will be welcome. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: I think we need a better name than "MWE"
Le 14/12/2021 à 21:05, Steve Litt via lyx-users a écrit : Hi all, Here on the LyX list we use the word MWE to mean the simplest example that still exhibits the symptom. But MWE stands for Minimum *Working* Example, and by definition, the file that exhibits the symptom does not "work". Also, I think I've seen MWE used on various LaTeX venues to mean the smallest file that works, for a specific feature you want to incorporate. In my view the problem is the acronym itself. I see it used directly and it is unlikely that a poor lost LyX user will know what it means. I find this jargon intimidating. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
