Re: Backup failure w/ LyX 1.5.2

2007-10-16 Thread Marc Driftmeyer

Do either of you have RCS installed and running on your systems?

http://www.gnu.org/software/rcs

This is the RCS system accessible via LyX under File-Version Control

The system doesn't have a GUI to work within. It's command line driven.

I'm using LyX on Debian Linux Sid and OS X 10.4.10


- Marc

On Oct 16, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Dave Hewitt wrote:


Marc, the directory is set to: C:\Program Files\LyX 1.5.2\backup
(Recall that I created this folder to make it available and stop  
the error messages on every save instance.)



Dave Hewitt wrote:

And, no files of any type are appearing in this new backup  
directory I created, so where are these backups going (i.e., what  
is the purpose of this folder)?


Maybe there aren't any. Do you have Tools -  
Preferences... - Look and feel - User interface - Backup  
documents turned on?


Yes, and I recall that files with little tildes at the end  
(backups, presumably) appeared in the same directory as the file  
was located when I was using LyX 1.5.1. There would almost always  
be a file with the same name and an added tilde each place I had a  
LyX document.


That's what I get ... sometimes ... (I have timed backups  
deselected, but apparently there are untimed backups triggered by  
alignment of the planets or something). There are also #filename#  
copies that get dumped under certain circumstances (less than  
graceful exit from LyX?), again in the source directory.


Marc indicated that the files with tildes are the just-prior saved  
version (an at-the-time-of-last-opening backup, if you will). So  
those aren't the backups. But, like you Paul, I get the #...# files  
in the same directory as I'm working in. I get those files  
regularly when LyX has a document open, like a backup. So I'm  
confused about what those are (they're not going to the 'backup'  
directory, if they are backups).



So you're saying you have timed backups set and, even with a valid  
backup path and having the document open past the time limit,  
you're not getting a backup file?


Correct. Could this have something to do with the odd path that was  
given in the error message? LyX thought I wanted backups in  
'backup' directory (which didn't exist), but the error message says:


Cannot create backup file: C:/Program Files/LyX 1.5.2/backup/C:! 
Documents and Settings!dhewitt!Desktop!newfile1.lyx~. Please check...


(It seems odd that this is an error for backup creation, and the  
file it wants to make has a tilde on it, which I've been told is  
not a backup.)




/Paul



Dave Hewitt





Re: Backup failure w/ LyX 1.5.2

2007-10-16 Thread Marc Driftmeyer

Do either of you have RCS installed and running on your systems?

http://www.gnu.org/software/rcs

This is the RCS system accessible via LyX under File-Version Control

The system doesn't have a GUI to work within. It's command line driven.

I'm using LyX on Debian Linux Sid and OS X 10.4.10


- Marc

On Oct 16, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Dave Hewitt wrote:


Marc, the directory is set to: C:\Program Files\LyX 1.5.2\backup
(Recall that I created this folder to make it available and stop  
the error messages on every save instance.)



Dave Hewitt wrote:

And, no files of any type are appearing in this new backup  
directory I created, so where are these backups going (i.e., what  
is the purpose of this folder)?


Maybe there aren't any. Do you have Tools -  
Preferences... - Look and feel - User interface - Backup  
documents turned on?


Yes, and I recall that files with little tildes at the end  
(backups, presumably) appeared in the same directory as the file  
was located when I was using LyX 1.5.1. There would almost always  
be a file with the same name and an added tilde each place I had a  
LyX document.


That's what I get ... sometimes ... (I have timed backups  
deselected, but apparently there are untimed backups triggered by  
alignment of the planets or something). There are also #filename#  
copies that get dumped under certain circumstances (less than  
graceful exit from LyX?), again in the source directory.


Marc indicated that the files with tildes are the just-prior saved  
version (an at-the-time-of-last-opening backup, if you will). So  
those aren't the backups. But, like you Paul, I get the #...# files  
in the same directory as I'm working in. I get those files  
regularly when LyX has a document open, like a backup. So I'm  
confused about what those are (they're not going to the 'backup'  
directory, if they are backups).



So you're saying you have timed backups set and, even with a valid  
backup path and having the document open past the time limit,  
you're not getting a backup file?


Correct. Could this have something to do with the odd path that was  
given in the error message? LyX thought I wanted backups in  
'backup' directory (which didn't exist), but the error message says:


Cannot create backup file: C:/Program Files/LyX 1.5.2/backup/C:! 
Documents and Settings!dhewitt!Desktop!newfile1.lyx~. Please check...


(It seems odd that this is an error for backup creation, and the  
file it wants to make has a tilde on it, which I've been told is  
not a backup.)




/Paul



Dave Hewitt





Re: Backup failure w/ LyX 1.5.2

2007-10-16 Thread Marc Driftmeyer

Do either of you have RCS installed and running on your systems?

http://www.gnu.org/software/rcs

This is the RCS system accessible via LyX under File->Version Control

The system doesn't have a GUI to work within. It's command line driven.

I'm using LyX on Debian Linux Sid and OS X 10.4.10


- Marc

On Oct 16, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Dave Hewitt wrote:


Marc, the directory is set to: C:\Program Files\LyX 1.5.2\backup
(Recall that I created this folder to make it available and stop  
the error messages on every save instance.)



Dave Hewitt wrote:

And, no files of any type are appearing in this new backup  
directory I created, so where are these backups going (i.e., what  
is the purpose of this folder)?


Maybe there aren't any. Do you have Tools ->  
Preferences... -> Look and feel -> User interface -> Backup  
documents turned on?


Yes, and I recall that files with little tildes at the end  
(backups, presumably) appeared in the same directory as the file  
was located when I was using LyX 1.5.1. There would almost always  
be a file with the same name and an added tilde each place I had a  
LyX document.


That's what I get ... sometimes ... (I have timed backups  
deselected, but apparently there are untimed backups triggered by  
alignment of the planets or something). There are also #filename#  
copies that get dumped under certain circumstances (less than  
graceful exit from LyX?), again in the source directory.


Marc indicated that the files with tildes are the just-prior saved  
version (an at-the-time-of-last-opening backup, if you will). So  
those aren't the backups. But, like you Paul, I get the #...# files  
in the same directory as I'm working in. I get those files  
regularly when LyX has a document open, like a backup. So I'm  
confused about what those are (they're not going to the 'backup'  
directory, if they are backups).



So you're saying you have timed backups set and, even with a valid  
backup path and having the document open past the time limit,  
you're not getting a backup file?


Correct. Could this have something to do with the odd path that was  
given in the error message? LyX thought I wanted backups in  
'backup' directory (which didn't exist), but the error message says:


"Cannot create backup file: C:/Program Files/LyX 1.5.2/backup/C:! 
Documents and Settings!dhewitt!Desktop!newfile1.lyx~. Please check..."


(It seems odd that this is an error for backup creation, and the  
file it wants to make has a tilde on it, which I've been told is  
not a backup.)




/Paul



Dave Hewitt





Re: Lyx 1.5.1 and LyX 1.5.2 Spellchecker Could not be started

2007-10-15 Thread Marc Driftmeyer
This is where an architecture package management by Debian eliminates  
much of one's headache.


The dpkg system doesn't throw stuff here and there.

- Marc


On Oct 15, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Rosanna Chan wrote:

Thanks so much for everybody's help on this but I finally managed  
to get the

spellchecker working.

For anybody else who may be having problems:

The problem is due to having been a LyX user since 2005 and earlier,
different version installations had installed stuff EVERYWHERE.
In order to have a clean installation I had to uninstall and delete  
all
Aspell and lyX folders -from document and settings folder under ALL  
THREE
categories: all users, administrator and my own. There was a  
strange little

folder titled .lyx that dated 2005 so delete that too.
Also clean out the registry.

THEN use the windows installer. When you reinstall it should tell  
you that
you have to download and install dictionary files - which indicates  
you have

cleaned out sufficiently.

Cheers!





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 October 2007 09:30
To: Rosanna Chan
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Lyx 1.5.1 and LyX 1.5.2 Spellchecker Could not be started

Rosanna Chan schrieb:

Should I try to contact a developer (how does one do that :)) or  
should I

report this as a bug?


Before doing this, could you please check if it works this way:

- uninstall LyX 1.5.1 and/or LyX 1.5.2
- uninstall all Aspell dictionaries
- ininstall Aspell itself in case you see it as installed after you
uninstalled the dictionaries
- reinstall LyX 1.5.2 using this installer:
   http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

When this works this installer sets up the system so that your  
Aspell will

be uninstalled together
with LyX when you upgrade to another LyX version to assure that  
you'll have

a working Aspell version

regards Uwe







Re: Lyx 1.5.1 and LyX 1.5.2 Spellchecker Could not be started

2007-10-15 Thread Marc Driftmeyer
This is where an architecture package management by Debian eliminates  
much of one's headache.


The dpkg system doesn't throw stuff here and there.

- Marc


On Oct 15, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Rosanna Chan wrote:

Thanks so much for everybody's help on this but I finally managed  
to get the

spellchecker working.

For anybody else who may be having problems:

The problem is due to having been a LyX user since 2005 and earlier,
different version installations had installed stuff EVERYWHERE.
In order to have a clean installation I had to uninstall and delete  
all
Aspell and lyX folders -from document and settings folder under ALL  
THREE
categories: all users, administrator and my own. There was a  
strange little

folder titled .lyx that dated 2005 so delete that too.
Also clean out the registry.

THEN use the windows installer. When you reinstall it should tell  
you that
you have to download and install dictionary files - which indicates  
you have

cleaned out sufficiently.

Cheers!





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 October 2007 09:30
To: Rosanna Chan
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Lyx 1.5.1 and LyX 1.5.2 Spellchecker Could not be started

Rosanna Chan schrieb:

Should I try to contact a developer (how does one do that :)) or  
should I

report this as a bug?


Before doing this, could you please check if it works this way:

- uninstall LyX 1.5.1 and/or LyX 1.5.2
- uninstall all Aspell dictionaries
- ininstall Aspell itself in case you see it as installed after you
uninstalled the dictionaries
- reinstall LyX 1.5.2 using this installer:
   http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

When this works this installer sets up the system so that your  
Aspell will

be uninstalled together
with LyX when you upgrade to another LyX version to assure that  
you'll have

a working Aspell version

regards Uwe







Re: Lyx 1.5.1 and LyX 1.5.2 Spellchecker Could not be started

2007-10-15 Thread Marc Driftmeyer
This is where an architecture package management by Debian eliminates  
much of one's headache.


The dpkg system doesn't throw stuff here and there.

- Marc


On Oct 15, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Rosanna Chan wrote:

Thanks so much for everybody's help on this but I finally managed  
to get the

spellchecker working.

For anybody else who may be having problems:

The problem is due to having been a LyX user since 2005 and earlier,
different version installations had installed stuff EVERYWHERE.
In order to have a clean installation I had to uninstall and delete  
all
Aspell and lyX folders -from document and settings folder under ALL  
THREE
categories: all users, administrator and my own. There was a  
strange little

folder titled .lyx that dated 2005 so delete that too.
Also clean out the registry.

THEN use the windows installer. When you reinstall it should tell  
you that
you have to download and install dictionary files - which indicates  
you have

cleaned out sufficiently.

Cheers!





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 October 2007 09:30
To: Rosanna Chan
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Lyx 1.5.1 and LyX 1.5.2 Spellchecker Could not be started

Rosanna Chan schrieb:

Should I try to contact a developer (how does one do that :)) or  
should I

report this as a bug?


Before doing this, could you please check if it works this way:

- uninstall LyX 1.5.1 and/or LyX 1.5.2
- uninstall all Aspell dictionaries
- ininstall Aspell itself in case you see it as installed after you
uninstalled the dictionaries
- reinstall LyX 1.5.2 using this installer:
   http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

When this works this installer sets up the system so that your  
Aspell will

be uninstalled together
with LyX when you upgrade to another LyX version to assure that  
you'll have

a working Aspell version

regards Uwe