Re: Did I ever mention how much I like LyX?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:25:13 +1300
john j...@og.co.nz wrote:

 Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Did I ever mention how much I like LyX? It's wonderful. I'm writing my new 
  book right now, and LyX is so easy and transparent that I'm pounding out an 
  average of 3,000 words per day. LyX just stays out of your way and let's 
  you 
  whomp out content. It's great.
 
  Thanks to the developers for making this great bookmaking software, and the 
  community for making it better and providing information.

 Amen to that!
 It's my favourite piece of software and has been for more than a decade!
 
 John O'Gorman


Hmm, yesterday I showed LyX to a colleague -- installed it and demoed
it on her Ubuntu laptop, in the space of half an hour, quietly while
both of us were listening to a seminar presentation. Smooth as silk.
She was sold solid, started writing straightaway.

Martin


  SteveT
 
  Steve Litt
  Recession Relief Package
  http://www.recession-relief.US
  Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
 
 
 

 

Re: Did I ever mention how much I like LyX?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:25:13 +1300
john j...@og.co.nz wrote:

 Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Did I ever mention how much I like LyX? It's wonderful. I'm writing my new 
  book right now, and LyX is so easy and transparent that I'm pounding out an 
  average of 3,000 words per day. LyX just stays out of your way and let's 
  you 
  whomp out content. It's great.
 
  Thanks to the developers for making this great bookmaking software, and the 
  community for making it better and providing information.

 Amen to that!
 It's my favourite piece of software and has been for more than a decade!
 
 John O'Gorman


Hmm, yesterday I showed LyX to a colleague -- installed it and demoed
it on her Ubuntu laptop, in the space of half an hour, quietly while
both of us were listening to a seminar presentation. Smooth as silk.
She was sold solid, started writing straightaway.

Martin


  SteveT
 
  Steve Litt
  Recession Relief Package
  http://www.recession-relief.US
  Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
 
 
 

 

Re: Did I ever mention how much I like LyX?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:25:13 +1300
john  wrote:

> Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Did I ever mention how much I like LyX? It's wonderful. I'm writing my new 
> > book right now, and LyX is so easy and transparent that I'm pounding out an 
> > average of 3,000 words per day. LyX just stays out of your way and let's 
> > you 
> > whomp out content. It's great.
> >
> > Thanks to the developers for making this great bookmaking software, and the 
> > community for making it better and providing information.
> >   
> Amen to that!
> It's my favourite piece of software and has been for more than a decade!
> 
> John O'Gorman


Hmm, yesterday I showed LyX to a colleague -- installed it and demoed
it on her Ubuntu laptop, in the space of half an hour, quietly while
both of us were listening to a seminar presentation. Smooth as silk.
She was sold solid, started writing straightaway.

Martin


> > SteveT
> >
> > Steve Litt
> > Recession Relief Package
> > http://www.recession-relief.US
> > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> 

Re: agutex layout?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:05:46 -0700
Gwen Barnes gwen.bar...@gmail.com wrote:

  If it is really different, we need a new layout, yes. Does it replace the
  older one(s)?
 
 
 
 It does replace the older ones in that it seems to be the only one they are
 offering now.  It's supposed to work for all the different AGU journals.
 I'm not sure how different the final output is, but (I think) that (a)
 without being able to  download the old class/style files I don't think I
 can use the old layouts, and (b) when submitting a paper they're probably
 going to expect a latex file using the new latex class.
 
 http://www.agu.org/pubs/helpdesk/
 
 -Gwen

Then you should write a new layout file, and probably we should phase the
old ones out. But as the journals will look the same as before, I think you
can save yourself a lot of time by starting from these existing layouts.

- Martin

Re: agutex layout?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:11:39 +0200
Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Martin Vermeer schrieb:
 
  Then you should write a new layout file,
 
 Hi martin,
 
 I thought you could write a layout file. For a layout newbie writing a layout 
 is quite tricky, 
 therefore I have written layouts requested by users. I don't have much time 
 at the moment, when it 
 is the same, I can try to find an hour the next days anyway to write it. Or 
 Gwen, you can try to 
 write a layout by yourself and send it back for review.
 
 regards Uwe

The latter sounds best, if you want this job to ever get finished :-( 
Real life badly intruding right now.

regards Martin

Re: agutex layout?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:05:46 -0700
Gwen Barnes gwen.bar...@gmail.com wrote:

  If it is really different, we need a new layout, yes. Does it replace the
  older one(s)?
 
 
 
 It does replace the older ones in that it seems to be the only one they are
 offering now.  It's supposed to work for all the different AGU journals.
 I'm not sure how different the final output is, but (I think) that (a)
 without being able to  download the old class/style files I don't think I
 can use the old layouts, and (b) when submitting a paper they're probably
 going to expect a latex file using the new latex class.
 
 http://www.agu.org/pubs/helpdesk/
 
 -Gwen

Then you should write a new layout file, and probably we should phase the
old ones out. But as the journals will look the same as before, I think you
can save yourself a lot of time by starting from these existing layouts.

- Martin

Re: agutex layout?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:11:39 +0200
Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Martin Vermeer schrieb:
 
  Then you should write a new layout file,
 
 Hi martin,
 
 I thought you could write a layout file. For a layout newbie writing a layout 
 is quite tricky, 
 therefore I have written layouts requested by users. I don't have much time 
 at the moment, when it 
 is the same, I can try to find an hour the next days anyway to write it. Or 
 Gwen, you can try to 
 write a layout by yourself and send it back for review.
 
 regards Uwe

The latter sounds best, if you want this job to ever get finished :-( 
Real life badly intruding right now.

regards Martin

Re: agutex layout?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:05:46 -0700
Gwen Barnes  wrote:

> > If it is really different, we need a new layout, yes. Does it replace the
> > older one(s)?
> >
> 
> 
> It does replace the older ones in that it seems to be the only one they are
> offering now.  It's supposed to work for all the different AGU journals.
> I'm not sure how different the final output is, but (I think) that (a)
> without being able to  download the old class/style files I don't think I
> can use the old layouts, and (b) when submitting a paper they're probably
> going to expect a latex file using the new latex class.
> 
> http://www.agu.org/pubs/helpdesk/
> 
> -Gwen

Then you should write a new layout file, and probably we should phase the
old ones out. But as the journals will look the same as before, I think you
can save yourself a lot of time by starting from these existing layouts.

- Martin

Re: agutex layout?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:11:39 +0200
Uwe Stöhr <uwesto...@web.de> wrote:

> Martin Vermeer schrieb:
> 
> > Then you should write a new layout file,
> 
> Hi martin,
> 
> I thought you could write a layout file. For a layout newbie writing a layout 
> is quite tricky, 
> therefore I have written layouts requested by users. I don't have much time 
> at the moment, when it 
> is the same, I can try to find an hour the next days anyway to write it. Or 
> Gwen, you can try to 
> write a layout by yourself and send it back for review.
> 
> regards Uwe

The latter sounds best, if you want this job to ever get finished :-( 
Real life badly intruding right now.

regards Martin

Re: agutex layout?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 04:11:16AM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
  Gwen Barnes schrieb:
 
  Has someone already made a layout for the new AGU latex class (agutex.cls,
  http://www.agu.org/pubs/helpdesk/)?  Otherwise I will try writing one up.
 
  We provide two layouts, one for AGU++ and one for AGU-dtd. But it seems that 
  agutex.cls is a new LaTeX class. I'm therefore CCing this mail to the author 
  of our existing AGU layout files.
 
  regards Uwe

If it is really different, we need a new layout, yes. Does it replace the
older one(s)?

- Martin

Re: agutex layout?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 04:11:16AM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
  Gwen Barnes schrieb:
 
  Has someone already made a layout for the new AGU latex class (agutex.cls,
  http://www.agu.org/pubs/helpdesk/)?  Otherwise I will try writing one up.
 
  We provide two layouts, one for AGU++ and one for AGU-dtd. But it seems that 
  agutex.cls is a new LaTeX class. I'm therefore CCing this mail to the author 
  of our existing AGU layout files.
 
  regards Uwe

If it is really different, we need a new layout, yes. Does it replace the
older one(s)?

- Martin

Re: agutex layout?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 04:11:16AM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
>  Gwen Barnes schrieb:
> 
> > Has someone already made a layout for the new AGU latex class (agutex.cls,
> > http://www.agu.org/pubs/helpdesk/)?  Otherwise I will try writing one up.
> 
>  We provide two layouts, one for AGU++ and one for AGU-dtd. But it seems that 
>  agutex.cls is a new LaTeX class. I'm therefore CCing this mail to the author 
>  of our existing AGU layout files.
> 
>  regards Uwe

If it is really different, we need a new layout, yes. Does it replace the
older one(s)?

- Martin

problem with fig2pdftex in newest Ubuntu

[Martin Vermeer]

Hi,

I just was involuntarily forced to test Ubuntu 8.10 (my power supply burned out 
and probably something else too, because we couldn't get the box back to  life 
again with a new power supply), and having problems with XFig figures in LyX.

They come out 90 degs rotated and with the wrong bounding box (?) i.e., cut 
off. If I export to LaTeX manually and re-generate the pdftex_t and pdf files 
from XFig manually, things work fine.

I though the problem was with Angus' heuristics in fig2pdftex.py and 
fig2pstex.py in lib/scripts. However, from the cammand line these work OK too.

Could somebody please have a look into this? Version is the official one, 
1.5.6. XFig is 3.2 patch level 5, 

- Martin

problem with fig2pdftex in newest Ubuntu

[Martin Vermeer]

Hi,

I just was involuntarily forced to test Ubuntu 8.10 (my power supply burned out 
and probably something else too, because we couldn't get the box back to  life 
again with a new power supply), and having problems with XFig figures in LyX.

They come out 90 degs rotated and with the wrong bounding box (?) i.e., cut 
off. If I export to LaTeX manually and re-generate the pdftex_t and pdf files 
from XFig manually, things work fine.

I though the problem was with Angus' heuristics in fig2pdftex.py and 
fig2pstex.py in lib/scripts. However, from the cammand line these work OK too.

Could somebody please have a look into this? Version is the official one, 
1.5.6. XFig is 3.2 patch level 5, 

- Martin

problem with fig2pdftex in newest Ubuntu

[Martin Vermeer]

Hi,

I just was involuntarily forced to test Ubuntu 8.10 (my power supply burned out 
and probably something else too, because we couldn't get the box back to  life 
again with a new power supply), and having problems with XFig figures in LyX.

They come out 90 degs rotated and with the wrong bounding box (?) i.e., cut 
off. If I export to LaTeX manually and re-generate the pdftex_t and pdf files 
from XFig manually, things work fine.

I though the problem was with Angus' heuristics in fig2pdftex.py and 
fig2pstex.py in lib/scripts. However, from the cammand line these work OK too.

Could somebody please have a look into this? Version is the official one, 
1.5.6. XFig is 3.2 patch level 5, 

- Martin

Re: Lyx, AGU, LaTeX export

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 04:26:48PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 David Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Thanks for the reply. I am still puzzled. Checking AGU's web site (for
  J. Geophys. Res. at least), I see that they
  accept only LateX, Word or Wordperfect for accepted manuscripts. How
  can lyx be used to submit to
  AGU without converting to latex first?
 
 Martin, do you read this?
 
 JMarc

The answer is, you cannot. You should export to LaTeX and
use the provided agu class, like jgrga. (You used to have 
to use aguplus by Pat Daly, but I am not quite sure about 
current status. The latest classfiles from AGU are said to 
incorporate this stuff.)

This will take a little setting up, first for LaTeX, then
for LyX.

There is also an AGU XML style, but that's very incomplete
and I wonder if anybody uses it.

Regards Martin

Re: Lyx, AGU, LaTeX export

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 04:26:48PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 David Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Thanks for the reply. I am still puzzled. Checking AGU's web site (for
  J. Geophys. Res. at least), I see that they
  accept only LateX, Word or Wordperfect for accepted manuscripts. How
  can lyx be used to submit to
  AGU without converting to latex first?
 
 Martin, do you read this?
 
 JMarc

The answer is, you cannot. You should export to LaTeX and
use the provided agu class, like jgrga. (You used to have 
to use aguplus by Pat Daly, but I am not quite sure about 
current status. The latest classfiles from AGU are said to 
incorporate this stuff.)

This will take a little setting up, first for LaTeX, then
for LyX.

There is also an AGU XML style, but that's very incomplete
and I wonder if anybody uses it.

Regards Martin

Re: Lyx, AGU, LaTeX export

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 04:26:48PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> David Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Thanks for the reply. I am still puzzled. Checking AGU's web site (for
> > J. Geophys. Res. at least), I see that they
> > accept only LateX, Word or Wordperfect for accepted manuscripts. How
> > can lyx be used to submit to
> > AGU without converting to latex first?
> 
> Martin, do you read this?
> 
> JMarc

The answer is, you cannot. You should export to LaTeX and
use the provided agu class, like jgrga. (You used to have 
to use aguplus by Pat Daly, but I am not quite sure about 
current status. The latest classfiles from AGU are said to 
incorporate this stuff.)

This will take a little setting up, first for LaTeX, then
for LyX.

There is also an AGU XML style, but that's very incomplete
and I wonder if anybody uses it.

Regards Martin

Any Sonera people on this list?

[Martin Vermeer]

Hi,

If any people employed by Sonera Oy who are also LyX users
are reading this, please respond. Especially if you are from
West-Nyland. My business is the reliability of my ADSL
connection (long countryside line) which will be used 
intensively during the 

LyX Developers Meeting in Bromarv, 9-14 August 2007.

I want to make sure that, if the line goes down, I will be
able to have it brought up again on short notice. I am aware 
of Sonera's technical customer service line, on workdays 
and part of Saturday, and will use that if there is nothing
better. But I wonder if there is something like a premium
service (even for money). Getting through to Sonera's 
ordinary customer service is an exercise in futility.

This could be a nice form of sponsorship ;-)

Please cc: me as I am not on this list.

Regards, Martin Vermeer
Chair, Local Organizing Committee

Any Sonera people on this list?

[Martin Vermeer]

Hi,

If any people employed by Sonera Oy who are also LyX users
are reading this, please respond. Especially if you are from
West-Nyland. My business is the reliability of my ADSL
connection (long countryside line) which will be used 
intensively during the 

LyX Developers Meeting in Bromarv, 9-14 August 2007.

I want to make sure that, if the line goes down, I will be
able to have it brought up again on short notice. I am aware 
of Sonera's technical customer service line, on workdays 
and part of Saturday, and will use that if there is nothing
better. But I wonder if there is something like a premium
service (even for money). Getting through to Sonera's 
ordinary customer service is an exercise in futility.

This could be a nice form of sponsorship ;-)

Please cc: me as I am not on this list.

Regards, Martin Vermeer
Chair, Local Organizing Committee

Any Sonera people on this list?

[Martin Vermeer]

Hi,

If any people employed by Sonera Oy who are also LyX users
are reading this, please respond. Especially if you are from
West-Nyland. My business is the reliability of my ADSL
connection (long countryside line) which will be used 
intensively during the 

LyX Developers Meeting in Bromarv, 9-14 August 2007.

I want to make sure that, if the line goes down, I will be
able to have it brought up again on short notice. I am aware 
of Sonera's technical customer service line, on workdays 
and part of Saturday, and will use that if there is nothing
better. But I wonder if there is something like a premium
service (even for money). Getting through to Sonera's 
ordinary customer service is an exercise in futility.

This could be a nice form of sponsorship ;-)

Please cc: me as I am not on this list.

Regards, Martin Vermeer
Chair, Local Organizing Committee

Re: Using listings package with beamer.

[Martin Vermeer]

On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:18:20AM -0500, Bo Peng wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I am trying to use listings with beamer, I learned 
 that
 
 1. beamer 3.07 is required.
 
 2. listings can not be float (understandable)
 
 3. the option fragile after \begin{frame} is 
 necessary.
 
 How would I insert this [fragile] option in lyx?

Hm, would it work to add needprotect = 1 in the layout file?

- Martin
 

Re: Using listings package with beamer.

[Martin Vermeer]

On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:18:20AM -0500, Bo Peng wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I am trying to use listings with beamer, I learned 
 that
 
 1. beamer 3.07 is required.
 
 2. listings can not be float (understandable)
 
 3. the option fragile after \begin{frame} is 
 necessary.
 
 How would I insert this [fragile] option in lyx?

Hm, would it work to add needprotect = 1 in the layout file?

- Martin
 

Re: Using listings package with beamer.

[Martin Vermeer]

On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:18:20AM -0500, Bo Peng wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I am trying to use listings with beamer, I learned 
> that
> 
> 1. beamer 3.07 is required.
> 
> 2. listings can not be float (understandable)
> 
> 3. the option fragile after \begin{frame} is 
> necessary.
> 
> How would I insert this [fragile] option in lyx?

Hm, would it work to add needprotect = 1 in the layout file?

- Martin
 

Re: Allowing multiple empty lines and spaces in the Lyx editor...

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 07:19:20PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 lamikr wrote:
 
 And as I see the Lyx editor anyway as a smart code editor for Latex,  I
 would not think it being against the WYSIWYM principles Lyx try to
 follow if it would allow writers to set some more air to their text in
 the editor side. Instead I see that Lyx would just came smarter than
 normal editors as it would allow the writing of latex source code in
 Lyx editor a more flexible way while still guarantee the coherent output
 
 
 and that could actually be a
 
 
 KILLER  FEATURE
 
 
 for some more artistic persons than I to assist them to get their
 keyboard, ideas and text fly faster than the screen can scroll :-)
 
... 
 
 PS: this kind of discussion is best suited to the users' list. Please 
 continue that there (and don't reply to all).

Actually I remember there was (and still is in mathed) the feature that
multiple presses of space cycle through different space widths. The same
could be done for vertical space. I don't think this would go against
the LyX philosophy, and might make Mika happy.

- Martin



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Re: Allowing multiple empty lines and spaces in the Lyx editor...

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 07:19:20PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 lamikr wrote:
 
 And as I see the Lyx editor anyway as a smart code editor for Latex,  I
 would not think it being against the WYSIWYM principles Lyx try to
 follow if it would allow writers to set some more air to their text in
 the editor side. Instead I see that Lyx would just came smarter than
 normal editors as it would allow the writing of latex source code in
 Lyx editor a more flexible way while still guarantee the coherent output
 
 
 and that could actually be a
 
 
 KILLER  FEATURE
 
 
 for some more artistic persons than I to assist them to get their
 keyboard, ideas and text fly faster than the screen can scroll :-)
 
... 
 
 PS: this kind of discussion is best suited to the users' list. Please 
 continue that there (and don't reply to all).

Actually I remember there was (and still is in mathed) the feature that
multiple presses of space cycle through different space widths. The same
could be done for vertical space. I don't think this would go against
the LyX philosophy, and might make Mika happy.

- Martin



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Re: Allowing multiple empty lines and spaces in the Lyx editor...

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 07:19:20PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> lamikr wrote:
> 
> >And as I see the Lyx editor anyway as a smart code editor for Latex,  I
> >would not think it being against the WYSIWYM principles Lyx try to
> >follow if it would allow writers to set some more "air" to their text in
> >the editor side. Instead I see that Lyx would just came smarter than
> >normal editors as it would allow the writing of latex "source code" in
> >Lyx editor a more flexible way while still guarantee the coherent output
> >
> >
> >and that could actually be a
> >
> >
> >KILLER  FEATURE
> >
> >
> >for some more artistic persons than I to assist them to get their
> >keyboard, ideas and text fly faster than the screen can scroll :-)
 
... 
 
> PS: this kind of discussion is best suited to the users' list. Please 
> continue that there (and don't reply to all).

Actually I remember there was (and still is in mathed) the feature that
multiple presses of space cycle through different space widths. The same
could be done for vertical space. I don't think this would go against
the LyX philosophy, and might make Mika happy.

- Martin



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Re: optional arguments for theorems?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 11:00 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  John == John Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
 
  John Hello, It is not uncommon in LaTeX to include optional arguments
  John to theorem-like environments, for example
 
  John\begin{theorem}[Buchberger, 1965] ... \end{theorem}
 
  This is something we should support natively indeed. The last time I
  looked at it, it was a bit too complicated for my taste and I gave up :)

 Hm. For each paragraph type, the .layout could specify whether an
 optional argument is allowed.  And perhaps even how many.
 If so, one should be able to use
 the optional argument inset currently only used for short titles.
 
 Do this sound reasonable?
 
 Helge Hafting

Yes, except... currently OptArg is only implemented for LaTeX commands,
not environments. See output_latex.C.

- Martin



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Re: optional arguments for theorems?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:40:48AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  Helge == Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Helge Hm. For each paragraph type, the .layout could specify whether
 Helge an optional argument is allowed. And perhaps even how many.
 Helge If so, one should be able to use the optional argument inset
 Helge currently only used for short titles.
 
 THis is what we do already... but not for environments!
 
 JMarc

The attached patch would put the infrastructure in place for doing it
for environments too. Seems to work. 

BTW LaTeX output is broken (outputs numbers) in trunk.

Should I check this in?

- Martin

Index: output_latex.C
===
--- output_latex.C  (revision 14992)
+++ output_latex.C  (working copy)
@@ -81,6 +81,10 @@
 }
 
 
+int latexOptArgInsets(Buffer const  buf, Paragraph const  par,
+ ostream  os, OutputParams const  runparams, int number);
+
+
 ParagraphList::const_iterator
 TeXEnvironment(Buffer const  buf,
   ParagraphList const  paragraphs,
@@ -129,6 +133,14 @@
 
if (style-isEnvironment()) {
os  \\begin{  style-latexname()  '}';
+   if (style-optionalargs  0) {
+   int ret = latexOptArgInsets(buf, *pit, os, runparams,
+   style-optionalargs);
+   while (ret  0) {
+   texrow.newline();
+   --ret;
+   }
+   }
if (style-latextype == LATEX_LIST_ENVIRONMENT) {
os  {  pit-params().labelWidthString()  }\n;
} else if (style-labeltype == LABEL_BIBLIO) {


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Re: optional arguments for theorems?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 11:00 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  John == John Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
 
  John Hello, It is not uncommon in LaTeX to include optional arguments
  John to theorem-like environments, for example
 
  John\begin{theorem}[Buchberger, 1965] ... \end{theorem}
 
  This is something we should support natively indeed. The last time I
  looked at it, it was a bit too complicated for my taste and I gave up :)

 Hm. For each paragraph type, the .layout could specify whether an
 optional argument is allowed.  And perhaps even how many.
 If so, one should be able to use
 the optional argument inset currently only used for short titles.
 
 Do this sound reasonable?
 
 Helge Hafting

Yes, except... currently OptArg is only implemented for LaTeX commands,
not environments. See output_latex.C.

- Martin



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Re: optional arguments for theorems?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:40:48AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  Helge == Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Helge Hm. For each paragraph type, the .layout could specify whether
 Helge an optional argument is allowed. And perhaps even how many.
 Helge If so, one should be able to use the optional argument inset
 Helge currently only used for short titles.
 
 THis is what we do already... but not for environments!
 
 JMarc

The attached patch would put the infrastructure in place for doing it
for environments too. Seems to work. 

BTW LaTeX output is broken (outputs numbers) in trunk.

Should I check this in?

- Martin

Index: output_latex.C
===
--- output_latex.C  (revision 14992)
+++ output_latex.C  (working copy)
@@ -81,6 +81,10 @@
 }
 
 
+int latexOptArgInsets(Buffer const  buf, Paragraph const  par,
+ ostream  os, OutputParams const  runparams, int number);
+
+
 ParagraphList::const_iterator
 TeXEnvironment(Buffer const  buf,
   ParagraphList const  paragraphs,
@@ -129,6 +133,14 @@
 
if (style-isEnvironment()) {
os  \\begin{  style-latexname()  '}';
+   if (style-optionalargs  0) {
+   int ret = latexOptArgInsets(buf, *pit, os, runparams,
+   style-optionalargs);
+   while (ret  0) {
+   texrow.newline();
+   --ret;
+   }
+   }
if (style-latextype == LATEX_LIST_ENVIRONMENT) {
os  {  pit-params().labelWidthString()  }\n;
} else if (style-labeltype == LABEL_BIBLIO) {


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Re: optional arguments for theorems?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 11:00 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> >> "John" == John Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> 
> >
> > John> Hello, It is not uncommon in LaTeX to include optional arguments
> > John> to theorem-like environments, for example
> >
> > John>\begin{theorem}[Buchberger, 1965] ... \end{theorem}
> >
> > This is something we should support natively indeed. The last time I
> > looked at it, it was a bit too complicated for my taste and I gave up :)
> >   
> Hm. For each paragraph type, the .layout could specify whether an
> "optional argument" is allowed.  And perhaps even "how many".
> If so, one should be able to use
> the optional argument inset currently only used for short titles.
> 
> Do this sound reasonable?
> 
> Helge Hafting

Yes, except... currently OptArg is only implemented for LaTeX commands,
not environments. See output_latex.C.

- Martin



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Re: optional arguments for theorems?

[Martin Vermeer]

On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:40:48AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Helge" == Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Helge> Hm. For each paragraph type, the .layout could specify whether
> Helge> an "optional argument" is allowed. And perhaps even "how many".
> Helge> If so, one should be able to use the optional argument inset
> Helge> currently only used for short titles.
> 
> THis is what we do already... but not for environments!
> 
> JMarc

The attached patch would put the infrastructure in place for doing it
for environments too. Seems to work. 

BTW LaTeX output is broken (outputs numbers) in trunk.

Should I check this in?

- Martin

Index: output_latex.C
===
--- output_latex.C  (revision 14992)
+++ output_latex.C  (working copy)
@@ -81,6 +81,10 @@
 }
 
 
+int latexOptArgInsets(Buffer const & buf, Paragraph const & par,
+ ostream & os, OutputParams const & runparams, int number);
+
+
 ParagraphList::const_iterator
 TeXEnvironment(Buffer const & buf,
   ParagraphList const & paragraphs,
@@ -129,6 +133,14 @@
 
if (style->isEnvironment()) {
os << "\\begin{" << style->latexname() << '}';
+   if (style->optionalargs > 0) {
+   int ret = latexOptArgInsets(buf, *pit, os, runparams,
+   style->optionalargs);
+   while (ret > 0) {
+   texrow.newline();
+   --ret;
+   }
+   }
if (style->latextype == LATEX_LIST_ENVIRONMENT) {
os << "{" << pit->params().labelWidthString() << "}\n";
} else if (style->labeltype == LABEL_BIBLIO) {


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Re: Forget Windows

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:53:39 +0100 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  Alex == Alex  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Alex Why? The GUI indepence means same content, different look. Isn't
 Alex it?
 
 The idea is that each frontend author is free to implement the dialogs
 as he wants. There is no contraint on their layout and/or text.

But that's a bug, not a feature, right? We _should_ strive for uniformity.

- Martin
 

Re: Forget Windows

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:53:39 +0100 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  Alex == Alex  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Alex Why? The GUI indepence means same content, different look. Isn't
 Alex it?
 
 The idea is that each frontend author is free to implement the dialogs
 as he wants. There is no contraint on their layout and/or text.

But that's a bug, not a feature, right? We _should_ strive for uniformity.

- Martin
 

Re: Forget Windows

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:53:39 +0100 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> > "Alex" == Alex  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Alex> Why? The GUI indepence means same content, different look. Isn't
> Alex> it?
> 
> The idea is that each frontend author is free to implement the dialogs
> as he wants. There is no contraint on their layout and/or text.

But that's a bug, not a feature, right? We _should_ strive for uniformity.

- Martin
 

Re: accents no work

[martin . vermeer]

Do you use qt-3.3.3?

There is a bug in this Qt version: the dead keys are, well, dead.

So if you tyÃpoe an accent, say, ^, it doesn't wait for the character
to be typed that it will be an accent of.

Very irritating. It also disables the use of ^ for superscript in math.

- Martin

Re: accents no work

[martin . vermeer]

Do you use qt-3.3.3?

There is a bug in this Qt version: the dead keys are, well, dead.

So if you tyÃpoe an accent, say, ^, it doesn't wait for the character
to be typed that it will be an accent of.

Very irritating. It also disables the use of ^ for superscript in math.

- Martin

Re: accents no work

[martin . vermeer]

Do you use qt-3.3.3?

There is a bug in this Qt version: the dead keys are, well, dead.

So if you tyÃpoe an accent, say, ^, it doesn't wait for the character
to be typed that it will be an accent of.

Very irritating. It also disables the use of ^ for superscript in math.

- Martin

Re: AGU article class

[Martin Vermeer]

On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:18:18AM -0600, Tim J. Garrett spake thusly:
 
 Hello Martin,
 
 These are the layout files I have. It does look like something may be remiss in what 
 I currently 
 have working, based on comparisons to what you show.
 
 Thankyou for you guidance.
 
 Tim

ok, I see your confusion. I'll take it step by step below.
 
 Martin Vermeer wrote:

...

 #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
 #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[article, /home/tgarrett/LyX/STYFILES/agums.sty]{article (AGU 
 ms)}

make this line

#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[aguplus,agums.sty]{article (AGU ms)}

(Explanation: aguplus denotes the aguplus.cls file, agums.sty (or the
full path, OK) files that have to be present.

 # Article textclass definition file. Taken from initial LyX source code
 # Author : Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 # Transposed by Pascal André [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 # Heavily modifed and enhanced by serveral developers.
 
 # Input general definitions
 Preamble
 \usepackage{/home/tgarrett/LyX/STYFILES/agums}

This should not be necessary (not wrong either I think)

 EndPreamble
 
 Input aguplus.inc
 

The file below should have the name jgrga.layout.

 #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
 #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[jgrga, /home/tgarrett/LyX/STYFILES/aguplus.sty]{article (AGU)}

#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[aguplus, jgrga.sty]{article (AGU jgr)}

 # Article textclass definition file. Taken from initial LyX source code
 # Author : Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 # Transposed by Pascal André [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 # Heavily modifed and enhanced by serveral developers.
 
 # Input general definitions
 Preamble
 \usepackage{/home/tgarrett/LyX/STYFILES/aguplus}

no...

 EndPreamble

Have you tried to use the original .inc and .layout files coming in the
LyX distribution package? I believe they are correct at least for the
whole aguplus package and jgrga. Then jgrga - agums.

- Martin 
 



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Re: AGU article class

[Martin Vermeer]

On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:18:18AM -0600, Tim J. Garrett spake thusly:
 
 Hello Martin,
 
 These are the layout files I have. It does look like something may be remiss in what 
 I currently 
 have working, based on comparisons to what you show.
 
 Thankyou for you guidance.
 
 Tim

ok, I see your confusion. I'll take it step by step below.
 
 Martin Vermeer wrote:

...

 #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
 #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[article, /home/tgarrett/LyX/STYFILES/agums.sty]{article (AGU 
 ms)}

make this line

#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[aguplus,agums.sty]{article (AGU ms)}

(Explanation: aguplus denotes the aguplus.cls file, agums.sty (or the
full path, OK) files that have to be present.

 # Article textclass definition file. Taken from initial LyX source code
 # Author : Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 # Transposed by Pascal André [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 # Heavily modifed and enhanced by serveral developers.
 
 # Input general definitions
 Preamble
 \usepackage{/home/tgarrett/LyX/STYFILES/agums}

This should not be necessary (not wrong either I think)

 EndPreamble
 
 Input aguplus.inc
 

The file below should have the name jgrga.layout.

 #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
 #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[jgrga, /home/tgarrett/LyX/STYFILES/aguplus.sty]{article (AGU)}

#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[aguplus, jgrga.sty]{article (AGU jgr)}

 # Article textclass definition file. Taken from initial LyX source code
 # Author : Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 # Transposed by Pascal André [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 # Heavily modifed and enhanced by serveral developers.
 
 # Input general definitions
 Preamble
 \usepackage{/home/tgarrett/LyX/STYFILES/aguplus}

no...

 EndPreamble

Have you tried to use the original .inc and .layout files coming in the
LyX distribution package? I believe they are correct at least for the
whole aguplus package and jgrga. Then jgrga - agums.

- Martin 
 



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Re: AGU article class

[Martin Vermeer]

On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:18:18AM -0600, Tim J. Garrett spake thusly:
 
> Hello Martin,
> 
> These are the layout files I have. It does look like something may be remiss in what 
> I currently 
> have working, based on comparisons to what you show.
> 
> Thankyou for you guidance.
> 
> Tim

ok, I see your confusion. I'll take it step by step below.
 
> Martin Vermeer wrote:

...

> #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
> #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[article, /home/tgarrett/LyX/STYFILES/agums.sty]{article (AGU 
> ms)}

make this line

#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[aguplus,agums.sty]{article (AGU ms)}

(Explanation: aguplus denotes the aguplus.cls file, agums.sty (or the
full path, OK) files that have to be present.

> # Article textclass definition file. Taken from initial LyX source code
> # Author : Matthias Ettrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> # Transposed by Pascal André <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> # Heavily modifed and enhanced by serveral developers.
> 
> # Input general definitions
> Preamble
> \usepackage{/home/tgarrett/LyX/STYFILES/agums}

This should not be necessary (not wrong either I think)

> EndPreamble
> 
> Input aguplus.inc
> 

The file below should have the name jgrga.layout.

> #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
> #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[jgrga, /home/tgarrett/LyX/STYFILES/aguplus.sty]{article (AGU)}

#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[aguplus, jgrga.sty]{article (AGU jgr)}

> # Article textclass definition file. Taken from initial LyX source code
> # Author : Matthias Ettrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> # Transposed by Pascal André <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> # Heavily modifed and enhanced by serveral developers.
> 
> # Input general definitions
> Preamble
> \usepackage{/home/tgarrett/LyX/STYFILES/aguplus}

no...

> EndPreamble

Have you tried to use the original .inc and .layout files coming in the
LyX distribution package? I believe they are correct at least for the
whole aguplus package and jgrga. Then jgrga -> agums.

- Martin 
 



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Re: AGU article class

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 03:33:16PM -0600, Tim J. Garrett spake thusly:
 
 The proper AGU files seem to be in textclass.lst
 
 agums article article (AGU ms) false

This looks slightly different from what I have. It should look

agums aguplus article (AGU++) manuscript false

(but of course with true instead of false :-)

Therefore, could I see your agums.layout file (that's where this info
is lifted from on reconfigure)? Mine looks like this:
---
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[aguplus,agums.sty]{article (AGU++) manuscript}
# AGUplus manuscript textclass definition file.
# Author: Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Input aguplus.inc

ClassOptions
Other agums
End
---


 aguplus jgrga article (AGU) false

Where did this one come from? Nonsense!

 jgrga aguplus article (AGU++) JGR true

This is OK.

 
 Since the last shows up in my list of document classes but the first two are listed 
 as unavailable 
 it seems that somehow false needs to be true? How?
 
 Tim

- Martin



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Re: AGU article class

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 03:33:16PM -0600, Tim J. Garrett spake thusly:
 
 The proper AGU files seem to be in textclass.lst
 
 agums article article (AGU ms) false

This looks slightly different from what I have. It should look

agums aguplus article (AGU++) manuscript false

(but of course with true instead of false :-)

Therefore, could I see your agums.layout file (that's where this info
is lifted from on reconfigure)? Mine looks like this:
---
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[aguplus,agums.sty]{article (AGU++) manuscript}
# AGUplus manuscript textclass definition file.
# Author: Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Input aguplus.inc

ClassOptions
Other agums
End
---


 aguplus jgrga article (AGU) false

Where did this one come from? Nonsense!

 jgrga aguplus article (AGU++) JGR true

This is OK.

 
 Since the last shows up in my list of document classes but the first two are listed 
 as unavailable 
 it seems that somehow false needs to be true? How?
 
 Tim

- Martin



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Re: AGU article class

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 03:33:16PM -0600, Tim J. Garrett spake thusly:
 
> The proper AGU files seem to be in textclass.lst
> 
> "agums" "article" "article (AGU ms)" "false"

This looks slightly different from what I have. It should look

"agums" "aguplus" "article (AGU++) manuscript" "false"

(but of course with "true" instead of "false" :-)

Therefore, could I see your agums.layout file (that's where this info
is lifted from on reconfigure)? Mine looks like this:
---
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[aguplus,agums.sty]{article (AGU++) manuscript}
# AGUplus manuscript textclass definition file.
# Author: Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Input aguplus.inc

ClassOptions
Other "agums"
End
---


> "aguplus" "jgrga" "article (AGU)" "false"

Where did this one come from? Nonsense!

> "jgrga" "aguplus" "article (AGU++) JGR" "true"

This is OK.

> 
> Since the last shows up in my list of document classes but the first two are listed 
> as unavailable 
> it seems that somehow "false" needs to be "true"? How?
> 
> Tim

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Re: AGU article class

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 12:04:21PM -0600, Tim J. Garrett spake thusly:
 
 This is what I have:
  /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu10.sty
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu11.sty
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu2001.cls
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu2001.sty
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu.bst
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agufull.bst
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agums.sty
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/aguplus.cls
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/jgrga.sty
  
   Also
  
   /usr/share/lyx/layouts/jgrga.layout
   /usr/share/lyx/layouts/aguplus.inc
 
 
 Ran texhash in the base and layouts directory, reconfigured, restarted, but still 
 article (AGU) and 
 article (AGU ms) are listed as unavailable. Looking at View-Tex Information, there 
 are many classes 
 and stylefiles listed in /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/, but none of those listed 
 above.

Check the file /usr/share/texmf/ls-R. It should contain aguplus.cls
and the others. If not, then texhash didn't do its job. (And you don't
have to run it in the layouts dir. That is LyX, not TeX stuff.) Did
you just type texhash as root from the command line, without any
arguments?

 Tim

- Martin



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Re: AGU article class

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 11:23:36AM -0600, Tim J. Garrett spake thusly:
 
 Looks like texhash did its job. ls-R contains:
 
 
 ./tex/latex/base:
 agu10.sty
 agu11.sty
 agu2001.cls
 agu2001.sty
 agu.bst
 agufull.bst
 agums.sty
 aguplus.cls
 
 texhash was run with out options.
 
 Thanks again
 Tim

This is weird. Does agums.sty occur in your file textclass.lst
(re-generated if you reconfigure) as it does in mine? Like a line

agums aguplus article (AGU++) manuscript false

If not, you could try and add it manually. System-wide or local (under
~/.lyx). Weird though if you would need to do that.

- Martin


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Re: AGU article class

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 12:04:21PM -0600, Tim J. Garrett spake thusly:
 
 This is what I have:
  /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu10.sty
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu11.sty
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu2001.cls
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu2001.sty
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu.bst
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agufull.bst
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agums.sty
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/aguplus.cls
   /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/jgrga.sty
  
   Also
  
   /usr/share/lyx/layouts/jgrga.layout
   /usr/share/lyx/layouts/aguplus.inc
 
 
 Ran texhash in the base and layouts directory, reconfigured, restarted, but still 
 article (AGU) and 
 article (AGU ms) are listed as unavailable. Looking at View-Tex Information, there 
 are many classes 
 and stylefiles listed in /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/, but none of those listed 
 above.

Check the file /usr/share/texmf/ls-R. It should contain aguplus.cls
and the others. If not, then texhash didn't do its job. (And you don't
have to run it in the layouts dir. That is LyX, not TeX stuff.) Did
you just type texhash as root from the command line, without any
arguments?

 Tim

- Martin



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Re: AGU article class

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 11:23:36AM -0600, Tim J. Garrett spake thusly:
 
 Looks like texhash did its job. ls-R contains:
 
 
 ./tex/latex/base:
 agu10.sty
 agu11.sty
 agu2001.cls
 agu2001.sty
 agu.bst
 agufull.bst
 agums.sty
 aguplus.cls
 
 texhash was run with out options.
 
 Thanks again
 Tim

This is weird. Does agums.sty occur in your file textclass.lst
(re-generated if you reconfigure) as it does in mine? Like a line

agums aguplus article (AGU++) manuscript false

If not, you could try and add it manually. System-wide or local (under
~/.lyx). Weird though if you would need to do that.

- Martin


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Re: AGU article class

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 12:04:21PM -0600, Tim J. Garrett spake thusly:
 
> This is what I have:
>  >/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu10.sty
>  > /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu11.sty
>  > /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu2001.cls
>  > /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu2001.sty
>  > /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agu.bst
>  > /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agufull.bst
>  > /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/agums.sty
>  > /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/aguplus.cls
>  > /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/jgrga.sty
>  >
>  > Also
>  >
>  > /usr/share/lyx/layouts/jgrga.layout
>  > /usr/share/lyx/layouts/aguplus.inc
> 
> 
> Ran texhash in the base and layouts directory, reconfigured, restarted, but still 
> article (AGU) and 
> article (AGU ms) are listed as unavailable. Looking at View->Tex Information, there 
> are many classes 
> and stylefiles listed in /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/, but none of those listed 
> above.

Check the file /usr/share/texmf/ls-R. It should contain aguplus.cls
and the others. If not, then texhash didn't do its job. (And you don't
have to run it in the layouts dir. That is LyX, not TeX stuff.) Did
you just type texhash as root from the command line, without any
arguments?

> Tim

- Martin



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Re: AGU article class

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 11:23:36AM -0600, Tim J. Garrett spake thusly:
 
> Looks like texhash did its job. ls-R contains:
> 
> 
> ./tex/latex/base:
> agu10.sty
> agu11.sty
> agu2001.cls
> agu2001.sty
> agu.bst
> agufull.bst
> agums.sty
> aguplus.cls
> 
> texhash was run with out options.
> 
> Thanks again
> Tim

This is weird. Does agums.sty occur in your file textclass.lst
(re-generated if you reconfigure) as it does in mine? Like a line

"agums" "aguplus" "article (AGU++) manuscript" "false"

If not, you could try and add it manually. System-wide or local (under
~/.lyx). Weird though if you would need to do that.

- Martin


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Re: agu2001.cls

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:09:04PM +, Jose' Matos spake thusly:
 
 On Monday 16 February 2004 22:15, Erhan Kudeki wrote:
  Are there lyx layout files available
  which work with agu2001.cls?
 
   Hi Martin,
 
   have you done anything related?
   How difficult would be to do it?
 
  Thanks,
  EK

Erhan, José, Angus,

Not being subscribed to the user list, here a quick response (have
been travelling).

The structure of the aguplus support is as follows:

aguplus.inc
|
|- jgrga.layout
|- agums.layout
|- other AGU journals.layout
|- etc...

So, this should be copied and converted to 

agu2001.inc
|
|- jgrga2001.layout
|- agums2001.layout
|- other AGU journals2001.layout
|- etc...

...with the change in jgrga2001.layout, agums2001.layout,... that
these should Input the appropriate .inc file.

Clear so far? (It was this duplication that I didn't like.)

Then, we must consider that the style definitions in the .cls file
have slightly changed from aguplus to agu2001. As follows:

\righthead - \titlerunninghead
\lefthead  - \authorrunninghead

Actually \lefthead and \righthead are still supported for backward
compatibility but I suppose will be deprecated.

Thanks to Tim Garrett for drawing my attention to agu2001 and its
peculiarities.

About the difference between aguplus and agu2001: the former is a
Patrick Daly product independent of AGU, extending their document
classes to behave like the rest of LaTeX/BibTeX. agu2001 is the
basically same thing but official by AGU. I'm happy they came round
finally but wonder what took them so long :-)

Hope this helps...

Martin

Re: agu2001.cls

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:09:04PM +, Jose' Matos spake thusly:
 
 On Monday 16 February 2004 22:15, Erhan Kudeki wrote:
  Are there lyx layout files available
  which work with agu2001.cls?
 
   Hi Martin,
 
   have you done anything related?
   How difficult would be to do it?
 
  Thanks,
  EK

Erhan, José, Angus,

Not being subscribed to the user list, here a quick response (have
been travelling).

The structure of the aguplus support is as follows:

aguplus.inc
|
|- jgrga.layout
|- agums.layout
|- other AGU journals.layout
|- etc...

So, this should be copied and converted to 

agu2001.inc
|
|- jgrga2001.layout
|- agums2001.layout
|- other AGU journals2001.layout
|- etc...

...with the change in jgrga2001.layout, agums2001.layout,... that
these should Input the appropriate .inc file.

Clear so far? (It was this duplication that I didn't like.)

Then, we must consider that the style definitions in the .cls file
have slightly changed from aguplus to agu2001. As follows:

\righthead - \titlerunninghead
\lefthead  - \authorrunninghead

Actually \lefthead and \righthead are still supported for backward
compatibility but I suppose will be deprecated.

Thanks to Tim Garrett for drawing my attention to agu2001 and its
peculiarities.

About the difference between aguplus and agu2001: the former is a
Patrick Daly product independent of AGU, extending their document
classes to behave like the rest of LaTeX/BibTeX. agu2001 is the
basically same thing but official by AGU. I'm happy they came round
finally but wonder what took them so long :-)

Hope this helps...

Martin

Re: agu2001.cls

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:09:04PM +, Jose' Matos spake thusly:
 
> On Monday 16 February 2004 22:15, Erhan Kudeki wrote:
> > Are there lyx layout files available
> > which work with agu2001.cls?
> 
>   Hi Martin,
> 
>   have you done anything related?
>   How difficult would be to do it?
> 
> > Thanks,
> > EK

Erhan, José, Angus,

Not being subscribed to the user list, here a quick response (have
been travelling).

The structure of the aguplus support is as follows:

aguplus.inc
|
|- jgrga.layout
|- agums.layout
|- .layout
|- etc...

So, this should be copied and converted to 

agu2001.inc
|
|- jgrga2001.layout
|- agums2001.layout
|- 2001.layout
|- etc...

...with the change in jgrga2001.layout, agums2001.layout,... that
these should Input the appropriate .inc file.

Clear so far? (It was this duplication that I didn't like.)

Then, we must consider that the style definitions in the .cls file
have slightly changed from aguplus to agu2001. As follows:

\righthead -> \titlerunninghead
\lefthead  -> \authorrunninghead

Actually \lefthead and \righthead are still supported for backward
compatibility but I suppose will be deprecated.

Thanks to Tim Garrett for drawing my attention to agu2001 and its
peculiarities.

About the difference between aguplus and agu2001: the former is a
Patrick Daly product independent of AGU, extending their document
classes to behave like the rest of LaTeX/BibTeX. agu2001 is the
basically same thing but "official" by AGU. I'm happy they came round
finally but wonder what took them so long :-)

Hope this helps...

Martin

Re: agu2001.cls

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:09:04PM +, Jose' Matos spake thusly:
 
 On Monday 16 February 2004 22:15, Erhan Kudeki wrote:
  Are there lyx layout files available
  which work with agu2001.cls?
 
   Hi Martin,
 
   have you done anything related?
   How difficult would be to do it?
 
  Thanks,
  EK
 
  ___
  Erhan KudekiTel: 217 333 
  4153
  Dept of Electrical  Computer Engineering   Fax: 217 244 5624
  University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
  1406 W. Green St., Urbana, IL 61801
 
 -- 
 José Abílio

Hi José,

It would be very straightforward. A few minor changes (style names in
the title block). Mostly dumb footwork, a copy-and-modify exercise. I
won't get around to it this week though. (But this is something one
could actually do without being a guru :-)

I don't like the idea of creating a wholly new layout file set for
what are only small modifications (including a name change of the .cls
file) but I see no other way.

Martin



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Re: agu2001.cls

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:09:04PM +, Jose' Matos spake thusly:
 
 On Monday 16 February 2004 22:15, Erhan Kudeki wrote:
  Are there lyx layout files available
  which work with agu2001.cls?
 
   Hi Martin,
 
   have you done anything related?
   How difficult would be to do it?
 
  Thanks,
  EK
 
  ___
  Erhan KudekiTel: 217 333 
  4153
  Dept of Electrical  Computer Engineering   Fax: 217 244 5624
  University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
  1406 W. Green St., Urbana, IL 61801
 
 -- 
 José Abílio

Hi José,

It would be very straightforward. A few minor changes (style names in
the title block). Mostly dumb footwork, a copy-and-modify exercise. I
won't get around to it this week though. (But this is something one
could actually do without being a guru :-)

I don't like the idea of creating a wholly new layout file set for
what are only small modifications (including a name change of the .cls
file) but I see no other way.

Martin



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Re: agu2001.cls

[Martin Vermeer]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:09:04PM +, Jose' Matos spake thusly:
 
> On Monday 16 February 2004 22:15, Erhan Kudeki wrote:
> > Are there lyx layout files available
> > which work with agu2001.cls?
> 
>   Hi Martin,
> 
>   have you done anything related?
>   How difficult would be to do it?
> 
> > Thanks,
> > EK
> >
> > ___
> > Erhan KudekiTel: 217 333 
> > 4153
> > Dept of Electrical & Computer Engineering   Fax: 217 244 5624
> > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> > 1406 W. Green St., Urbana, IL 61801
> 
> -- 
> José Abílio

Hi José,

It would be very straightforward. A few minor changes (style names in
the title block). Mostly dumb footwork, a copy-and-modify exercise. I
won't get around to it this week though. (But this is something one
could actually do without being a guru :-)

I don't like the idea of creating a wholly new layout file set for
what are only small modifications (including a name change of the .cls
file) but I see no other way.

Martin



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Re: possible feature - long shot but still..

[Martin Vermeer]

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 Hi.. I was wondering if anyone's thought of implementing a
 revisions/changes tracker in LyX? So for e.g., if someone sends me a Lyx
 (Latex) file, then I open (import) it in Lyx, and the changes that I
 make are tracked so that after I make all my changes, when I view the
 output, there'll be some marker/comment that says what changes were made
 at the point where the changes were made..  so when I send this file
 back the person at the other end will be able to immediately see the
 changes that I made.. what would be even cooler is if there's an option
 to strip off markers/comments after the other person accepts/rejects the
 changes.. 
 
 I just recently used this feature in MS Word and thought it was really
 cool for collaborative work.. something that might be worth
 incorporating in LyX in the future cos I'm not aware of any latex
 processor that does this.. is there any addon that can be used with LyX
 to do this right now?
 
 Thanks,
 nirmal

Hi, this was a big subject of debate perhaps a month ago... yes, there
was thinking going on on how to do this.

Doing it in the textbook fashion with all the niceties offered by Word
is not quite trivial. We do have currently support for version control
(CVS/RCS) which would allow you to extract a diff between two
versions. However, you wouldn't have the LyX GUI to look at and work
with this diff, which is the whole idea I suppose.

There was also the idea to harness wdiff (word-diff) as an external
process for this. But somehow nothing came of this. It's seriously
nontrivial, depending on what features you precisely want.

I have myself been working on a related but slightly different idea:
different language versions (English/Finnish) of the same doc, to be
run off to different output files. A little like tangle/weave in
literate programming (I suppose). One system uses different coloured
layouts in a layout file (based on the comment or verbatim packages), 
the other different text colours stripped out selectively by sed
scripts. See this list archive.
 
'Cool'? Sure it's cool in Word. I also heard from a colleague that in
his institute manuscripts go around the place, often coming back in
such a state -- due to all the annotations and changes on top of
changes -- that the file isn't useable anymore, Word crashes and
output gets messed up etc. The only solution being having a secretary
type it in manually again... you'll agree that LyX shouldn't be THAT
cool. Just my mandatory Friday remark.

Martin




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Re: possible feature - long shot but still..

[Martin Vermeer]

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 Hi.. I was wondering if anyone's thought of implementing a
 revisions/changes tracker in LyX? So for e.g., if someone sends me a Lyx
 (Latex) file, then I open (import) it in Lyx, and the changes that I
 make are tracked so that after I make all my changes, when I view the
 output, there'll be some marker/comment that says what changes were made
 at the point where the changes were made..  so when I send this file
 back the person at the other end will be able to immediately see the
 changes that I made.. what would be even cooler is if there's an option
 to strip off markers/comments after the other person accepts/rejects the
 changes.. 
 
 I just recently used this feature in MS Word and thought it was really
 cool for collaborative work.. something that might be worth
 incorporating in LyX in the future cos I'm not aware of any latex
 processor that does this.. is there any addon that can be used with LyX
 to do this right now?
 
 Thanks,
 nirmal

Hi, this was a big subject of debate perhaps a month ago... yes, there
was thinking going on on how to do this.

Doing it in the textbook fashion with all the niceties offered by Word
is not quite trivial. We do have currently support for version control
(CVS/RCS) which would allow you to extract a diff between two
versions. However, you wouldn't have the LyX GUI to look at and work
with this diff, which is the whole idea I suppose.

There was also the idea to harness wdiff (word-diff) as an external
process for this. But somehow nothing came of this. It's seriously
nontrivial, depending on what features you precisely want.

I have myself been working on a related but slightly different idea:
different language versions (English/Finnish) of the same doc, to be
run off to different output files. A little like tangle/weave in
literate programming (I suppose). One system uses different coloured
layouts in a layout file (based on the comment or verbatim packages), 
the other different text colours stripped out selectively by sed
scripts. See this list archive.
 
'Cool'? Sure it's cool in Word. I also heard from a colleague that in
his institute manuscripts go around the place, often coming back in
such a state -- due to all the annotations and changes on top of
changes -- that the file isn't useable anymore, Word crashes and
output gets messed up etc. The only solution being having a secretary
type it in manually again... you'll agree that LyX shouldn't be THAT
cool. Just my mandatory Friday remark.

Martin




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Re: possible feature - long shot but still..

[Martin Vermeer]

On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 03:37:39PM -0400, Nirmal Govind wrote:
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> 
> Hi.. I was wondering if anyone's thought of implementing a
> revisions/changes tracker in LyX? So for e.g., if someone sends me a Lyx
> (Latex) file, then I open (import) it in Lyx, and the changes that I
> make are "tracked" so that after I make all my changes, when I view the
> output, there'll be some marker/comment that says what changes were made
> at the point where the changes were made..  so when I send this file
> back the person at the other end will be able to immediately see the
> changes that I made.. what would be even cooler is if there's an option
> to strip off markers/comments after the other person accepts/rejects the
> changes.. 
> 
> I just recently used this feature in MS Word and thought it was really
> cool for collaborative work.. something that might be worth
> incorporating in LyX in the future cos I'm not aware of any latex
> processor that does this.. is there any addon that can be used with LyX
> to do this right now?
> 
> Thanks,
> nirmal

Hi, this was a big subject of debate perhaps a month ago... yes, there
was thinking going on on how to do this.

Doing it in the textbook fashion with all the niceties offered by Word
is not quite trivial. We do have currently support for version control
(CVS/RCS) which would allow you to extract a diff between two
versions. However, you wouldn't have the LyX GUI to look at and work
with this diff, which is the whole idea I suppose.

There was also the idea to harness wdiff (word-diff) as an external
process for this. But somehow nothing came of this. It's seriously
nontrivial, depending on what features you precisely want.

I have myself been working on a related but slightly different idea:
different language versions (English/Finnish) of the same doc, to be
run off to different output files. A little like tangle/weave in
literate programming (I suppose). One system uses different coloured
layouts in a layout file (based on the comment or verbatim packages), 
the other different text colours stripped out selectively by sed
scripts. See this list archive.
 
'Cool'? Sure it's cool in Word. I also heard from a colleague that in
his institute manuscripts go around the place, often coming back in
such a state -- due to all the annotations and changes on top of
changes -- that the file isn't useable anymore, Word crashes and
output gets messed up etc. The only solution being having a secretary
type it in manually again... you'll agree that LyX shouldn't be THAT
cool. Just my mandatory Friday remark.

Martin




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Word count ;-)

[Martin Vermeer]

Read the comments here about word count in OpenOffice:: 


http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-13-014-26-RV-DT-SWtbovrmode=1#talkback_area

We have a word count function too, somewhat hidden: 
custom export to ASCII defining the command as wc -w.

Should this be provided more explicitly? And how hard 
is it to export the select buffer instead of the 
whole document?

Martin




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Word count ;-)

[Martin Vermeer]

Read the comments here about word count in OpenOffice:: 


http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-13-014-26-RV-DT-SWtbovrmode=1#talkback_area

We have a word count function too, somewhat hidden: 
custom export to ASCII defining the command as wc -w.

Should this be provided more explicitly? And how hard 
is it to export the select buffer instead of the 
whole document?

Martin




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Word count ;-)

[Martin Vermeer]

Read the comments here about word count in OpenOffice:: 


http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-13-014-26-RV-DT-SW=1#talkback_area

We have a word count function too, somewhat hidden: 
custom export to ASCII defining the command as wc -w.

Should this be provided more explicitly? And how hard 
is it to export the select buffer instead of the 
whole document?

Martin




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Re: Problem typing math exposant with my sun 5 keyboard with 1.2.0cvs

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 08:36:23AM +0100, Yann MORERE wrote:
... 
 Hello, 
 
 I've got a sun sparcstation 5 with a sun type 5 french keyboard under
 linux debian 2.2r3
 
 I used xkeycap to get the circum accent work. I created an xmodmap file
 like this.
 
 yann@yoda:~$ more .xmodmap-yoda
 !
 ! This is an `xmodmap' input file for Sun Microsystems Type 5 (X11R6;
 French) ke
 yboards.
 ! Automatically generated on Thu Sep 13 14:16:40 2001 by yann with
 ! XKeyCaps 2.46; Copyright (c) 1999 Jamie Zawinski [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 ! http://www.jwz.org/xkeycaps/
 !
 keycode 0x47 =  dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis
 
 yann@yoda:~$ 
 
 Under lyx 1.1.6fix3 I have to type ^-space in order to have the exposant
 mode. But now if i type this, i get a blank with a circum.
 
 How can i override that.
 
 Have you got an idea
 
 Yann

I suggest you go to the 'preferences' menu item, find the appropriate
tab and make sure to choose the option that X should handle dead keys, 
not LyX.

I have a better (?) fix for this, but this should work for now.
You could also modify your xmodmap to define a keystroke for asciicircum,
which would work without the extra space.

-- 
Martin Vermeer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Helsinki University of Technology 
Department of Surveying
P.O. Box 1200, FIN-02015 HUT, Finland
:wq



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Re: Problem typing math exposant with my sun 5 keyboard with 1.2.0cvs

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 08:36:23AM +0100, Yann MORERE wrote:
... 
 Hello, 
 
 I've got a sun sparcstation 5 with a sun type 5 french keyboard under
 linux debian 2.2r3
 
 I used xkeycap to get the circum accent work. I created an xmodmap file
 like this.
 
 yann@yoda:~$ more .xmodmap-yoda
 !
 ! This is an `xmodmap' input file for Sun Microsystems Type 5 (X11R6;
 French) ke
 yboards.
 ! Automatically generated on Thu Sep 13 14:16:40 2001 by yann with
 ! XKeyCaps 2.46; Copyright (c) 1999 Jamie Zawinski [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 ! http://www.jwz.org/xkeycaps/
 !
 keycode 0x47 =  dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis
 
 yann@yoda:~$ 
 
 Under lyx 1.1.6fix3 I have to type ^-space in order to have the exposant
 mode. But now if i type this, i get a blank with a circum.
 
 How can i override that.
 
 Have you got an idea
 
 Yann

I suggest you go to the 'preferences' menu item, find the appropriate
tab and make sure to choose the option that X should handle dead keys, 
not LyX.

I have a better (?) fix for this, but this should work for now.
You could also modify your xmodmap to define a keystroke for asciicircum,
which would work without the extra space.

-- 
Martin Vermeer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Helsinki University of Technology 
Department of Surveying
P.O. Box 1200, FIN-02015 HUT, Finland
:wq



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Re: Problem typing math exposant with my sun 5 keyboard with 1.2.0cvs

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 08:36:23AM +0100, Yann MORERE wrote:
... 
> Hello, 
> 
> I've got a sun sparcstation 5 with a sun type 5 french keyboard under
> linux debian 2.2r3
> 
> I used xkeycap to get the circum accent work. I created an xmodmap file
> like this.
> 
> yann@yoda:~$ more .xmodmap-yoda
> !
> ! This is an `xmodmap' input file for Sun Microsystems Type 5 (X11R6;
> French) ke
> yboards.
> ! Automatically generated on Thu Sep 13 14:16:40 2001 by yann with
> ! XKeyCaps 2.46; Copyright (c) 1999 Jamie Zawinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> ! http://www.jwz.org/xkeycaps/
> !
> keycode 0x47 =  dead_circumflex dead_diaeresis
> 
> yann@yoda:~$ 
> 
> Under lyx 1.1.6fix3 I have to type ^-space in order to have the exposant
> mode. But now if i type this, i get a blank with a circum.
> 
> How can i override that.
> 
> Have you got an idea
> 
> Yann

I suggest you go to the 'preferences' menu item, find the appropriate
tab and make sure to choose the option that X should handle dead keys, 
not LyX.

I have a better (?) fix for this, but this should work for now.
You could also modify your xmodmap to define a keystroke for asciicircum,
which would work without the extra space.

-- 
Martin Vermeer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Helsinki University of Technology 
Department of Surveying
P.O. Box 1200, FIN-02015 HUT, Finland
:wq



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Re: announce lyx-1.1.6pre2

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 08:45:36AM +0100, Rainer Hoffmann wrote:
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 Subject: Re: announce lyx-1.1.6pre2
 
 Hi all,
 
 1) I downloaded the .tar.gz-file, .configured, maked and started it with src/lyx
 Then the following messages came:
 LyX: Unknown LyX function `buffer-fax' [around line 60 of file
 ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
 LyX: Unknown LyX function `layout-paper' [around line 114 of file
 ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
 LyX: Unknown LyX function `layout-table' [around line 115 of file
 ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
 LyX: Unknown LyX function `layout-quotes' [around line 116 of file
 ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
 LyX: Unknown LyX function `buffer-itemize-bullets-select' [around line 125 of
 file ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
 LyX: Unknown LyX function `table-insert' [around line 131 of file
 ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]

That's because the lyxrc format has changed.
 
 Lyx started nevertheless.
 
 2) Then I opened an old document from 1.1.5
 
 The messages were

... (postscript messages) ...
 
 Yet, the document was opened and displayed correctly
 
 3) I tried the PDF-Export:
 The fonts on the screen with acrobat reader were ugly. Looked like bitmap fonts.
 Can that be changed?

YES!! 

\usepackage{ae} 

in the preamble gives you "almost European", an outline version of Computer Modern.
(I find it less aestetic than CM, but in acroread it looks better)

Alternatively, use any of the other font packages like palatino.sty,
times.sty, bookman.sty, newcent.sty, ... most of them are outline IIRC.

 
 Bye,
 
 Rainer Hoffmann
 

-- 
Martin Vermeer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Helsinki University of Technology 
Department of Surveying
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Re: announce lyx-1.1.6pre2

[Martin Vermeer]

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 Subject: Re: announce lyx-1.1.6pre2
 
 Hi all,
 
 1) I downloaded the .tar.gz-file, .configured, maked and started it with src/lyx
 Then the following messages came:
 LyX: Unknown LyX function `buffer-fax' [around line 60 of file
 ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
 LyX: Unknown LyX function `layout-paper' [around line 114 of file
 ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
 LyX: Unknown LyX function `layout-table' [around line 115 of file
 ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
 LyX: Unknown LyX function `layout-quotes' [around line 116 of file
 ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
 LyX: Unknown LyX function `buffer-itemize-bullets-select' [around line 125 of
 file ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
 LyX: Unknown LyX function `table-insert' [around line 131 of file
 ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]

That's because the lyxrc format has changed.
 
 Lyx started nevertheless.
 
 2) Then I opened an old document from 1.1.5
 
 The messages were

... (postscript messages) ...
 
 Yet, the document was opened and displayed correctly
 
 3) I tried the PDF-Export:
 The fonts on the screen with acrobat reader were ugly. Looked like bitmap fonts.
 Can that be changed?

YES!! 

\usepackage{ae} 

in the preamble gives you "almost European", an outline version of Computer Modern.
(I find it less aestetic than CM, but in acroread it looks better)

Alternatively, use any of the other font packages like palatino.sty,
times.sty, bookman.sty, newcent.sty, ... most of them are outline IIRC.

 
 Bye,
 
 Rainer Hoffmann
 

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Martin Vermeer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Helsinki University of Technology 
Department of Surveying
P.O. Box 1200, FIN-02015 HUT, Finland
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Re: announce lyx-1.1.6pre2

[Martin Vermeer]

On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 08:45:36AM +0100, Rainer Hoffmann wrote:
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> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: announce lyx-1.1.6pre2
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 1) I downloaded the .tar.gz-file, .configured, maked and started it with src/lyx
> Then the following messages came:
> LyX: Unknown LyX function `buffer-fax' [around line 60 of file
> ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
> LyX: Unknown LyX function `layout-paper' [around line 114 of file
> ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
> LyX: Unknown LyX function `layout-table' [around line 115 of file
> ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
> LyX: Unknown LyX function `layout-quotes' [around line 116 of file
> ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
> LyX: Unknown LyX function `buffer-itemize-bullets-select' [around line 125 of
> file ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]
> LyX: Unknown LyX function `table-insert' [around line 131 of file
> ~/Software/lyx-1.1.6pre2/lib/bind/de_menus.bind]

That's because the lyxrc format has changed.
 
> Lyx started nevertheless.
> 
> 2) Then I opened an old document from 1.1.5
> 
> The messages were

... (postscript messages) ...
 
> Yet, the document was opened and displayed correctly
> 
> 3) I tried the PDF-Export:
> The fonts on the screen with acrobat reader were ugly. Looked like bitmap fonts.
> Can that be changed?

YES!! 

\usepackage{ae} 

in the preamble gives you "almost European", an outline version of Computer Modern.
(I find it less aestetic than CM, but in acroread it looks better)

Alternatively, use any of the other font packages like palatino.sty,
times.sty, bookman.sty, newcent.sty, ... most of them are outline IIRC.

 
> Bye,
> 
> Rainer Hoffmann
> 

-- 
Martin Vermeer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Helsinki University of Technology 
Department of Surveying
P.O. Box 1200, FIN-02015 HUT, Finland
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Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

[Martin Vermeer]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:09:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
 
 Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
   Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

My lecture notes "Gravity field of the Earth" are 133 pages (Book class)
with 27 figures. In (poor) Finnish. No problem for either LyX nor LaTeX,
but a bit slow on a 486 at 33 MHz.

Then there is the Proceedings of the Second Continental Workshop on the 
Geoid in Europe, (Finnish Geodetic Institute Report 98:4), 292 pages, 
most of which passed through LyX. But not as a single doc so it doesn't 
count. Yet, I wonder if it is the largest published single effort using LyX.

[...]
 
 Mike
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Martin
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Finnish Geodetic InstituteGeodeetinrinne 2FIN-02430 Masala FINLAND
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Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

[Martin Vermeer]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:09:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
 
 Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
   Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

My lecture notes "Gravity field of the Earth" are 133 pages (Book class)
with 27 figures. In (poor) Finnish. No problem for either LyX nor LaTeX,
but a bit slow on a 486 at 33 MHz.

Then there is the Proceedings of the Second Continental Workshop on the 
Geoid in Europe, (Finnish Geodetic Institute Report 98:4), 292 pages, 
most of which passed through LyX. But not as a single doc so it doesn't 
count. Yet, I wonder if it is the largest published single effort using LyX.

[...]
 
 Mike
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Martin
-- 
Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Phone +358 9 295 55 215   Fax +358 9 295 55 200
Finnish Geodetic InstituteGeodeetinrinne 2FIN-02430 Masala FINLAND
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Re: LyX FAQ 0.3.0... available (Please read)

[Martin Vermeer]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:09:36PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
 
> Section 1.2 - I would like to know about "world record documents" (read it
>   - you'll see what I mean). Anyone do longer than a 118 page thesis?
>   Anyone write a proposal for more than $1 M (US)? etc.

My lecture notes "Gravity field of the Earth" are 133 pages (Book class)
with 27 figures. In (poor) Finnish. No problem for either LyX nor LaTeX,
but a bit slow on a 486 at 33 MHz.

Then there is the Proceedings of the Second Continental Workshop on the 
Geoid in Europe, (Finnish Geodetic Institute Report 98:4), 292 pages, 
most of which passed through LyX. But not as a single doc so it doesn't 
count. Yet, I wonder if it is the largest published single effort using LyX.

[...]
 
> Mike
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

Martin
-- 
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Finnish Geodetic InstituteGeodeetinrinne 2FIN-02430 Masala FINLAND
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Re: spam prevention

[Martin Vermeer]

Mate,

just received a message from your good friend ezmlm that some of the list 
messages to me had bounced. Tracking down the reason, I found it was due to 
the sendmail/procmail in my new Red Hat 6.1 setup.

Already two weeks ago, I noticed that procmail didn't work properly (that's 
when the bounces occurred). To make a long story short, the procmail that's 
coming with RH6.1 DOES NOT NEED A .forward FILE IN ~ ANYMORE! If you put one 
there with the mystical incantation found in the procmail manual, it will fail.

(Of course you can continue to use .forward for its original purpose :-)

In RH6.1, procmail is called directly from sendmail. See for yourself in 
/etc/sendmail.cf. Hope this helps some people!

Martin
-- 
Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Phone +358 9 295 55 215   Fax +358 9 295 55 200
Finnish Geodetic InstituteGeodeetinrinne 2FIN-02430 Masala FINLAND
-- Try it, you'll LyX it.   http://www.lyx.org

Re: spam prevention

[Martin Vermeer]

Mate,

just received a message from your good friend ezmlm that some of the list 
messages to me had bounced. Tracking down the reason, I found it was due to 
the sendmail/procmail in my new Red Hat 6.1 setup.

Already two weeks ago, I noticed that procmail didn't work properly (that's 
when the bounces occurred). To make a long story short, the procmail that's 
coming with RH6.1 DOES NOT NEED A .forward FILE IN ~ ANYMORE! If you put one 
there with the mystical incantation found in the procmail manual, it will fail.

(Of course you can continue to use .forward for its original purpose :-)

In RH6.1, procmail is called directly from sendmail. See for yourself in 
/etc/sendmail.cf. Hope this helps some people!

Martin
-- 
Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Phone +358 9 295 55 215   Fax +358 9 295 55 200
Finnish Geodetic InstituteGeodeetinrinne 2FIN-02430 Masala FINLAND
-- Try it, you'll LyX it.   http://www.lyx.org

Re: spam prevention

[Martin Vermeer]

Mate,

just received a message from your good friend ezmlm that some of the list 
messages to me had bounced. Tracking down the reason, I found it was due to 
the sendmail/procmail in my new Red Hat 6.1 setup.

Already two weeks ago, I noticed that procmail didn't work properly (that's 
when the bounces occurred). To make a long story short, the procmail that's 
coming with RH6.1 DOES NOT NEED A .forward FILE IN ~ ANYMORE! If you put one 
there with the mystical incantation found in the procmail manual, it will fail.

(Of course you can continue to use .forward for its original purpose :-)

In RH6.1, procmail is called directly from sendmail. See for yourself in 
/etc/sendmail.cf. Hope this helps some people!

Martin
-- 
Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Phone +358 9 295 55 215   Fax +358 9 295 55 200
Finnish Geodetic InstituteGeodeetinrinne 2FIN-02430 Masala FINLAND
-- Try it, you'll LyX it.   http://www.lyx.org