Re: HTML Pagination Issues (elyxer)

2012-04-26 Thread Raymond Lillard

On 04/26/2012 05:15 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 04/25/2012 11:59 PM, Raymond Lillard wrote:

Dear Lyx-Users,

I have looked and read documentation and Googled for
hours and have yet to find answers to two questions.

My Lyx environment:

Lyx 2.1.0svn as of about a week ago.
TexLive2011 + updates also current about a week ago.

I have written a ~100 page document and would like
to accomplish two things. While writing this document
I have been previewing it as a PDF and now have a nice
looking document.

I have been asked to prepare an HTML version of the
document. I have done so and it too looks really nice
with two minor (well maybe 1 1/2) flaws.

The first and most bothersome is that I have placed
some ERT to handle page numbering in the PDF output.

For the cover page:
\thispagestyleempty

and for general page numbering:
\lhead Name: \pagenumberingroman

This ERT appears in my HTML output when view in a
browser.

What are you using to produce the HTML output? LyX's own method should
not do this, and does not do it in the test I just ran.


$ elyxer --version
* eLyXer version 1.2.3 (2011-08-31)

When my document output format is set to HTML I get:
Line 3: * Warning: unsupported new format version 430
Line 149: * Unknown command \thispagestyle
Line 192: * Unknown command \lhead
Line 192: * Unknown command \pagenumbering
Line 262: * Unknown command \pagenumbering
Line 262: * Unknown command \topmargin
on STDERR from elyxer.

These unrecognized commands get passed through as plain
text in the HTML.

Sorry, but LyXHTML is too ugly for my taste.

I'm not clear on these things, but it looks like
Elyxer is not maintained by the Lyx project.  Should
I take silly little problem elsewhere?



I would like to not need to modify the document
depending on the output form. Is this possible?


You could use branches to turn things on and off.


Secondly, I would like the output to be one large
file but with defined page numbers just like the PDF.


I guess I don't really understand this. I'd be happy to add it to LyX's
XHTML output routine, but how does one know where to break the pages?


OK, I made an incorrect assumption when I wrote the above.
I didn't realize the HTML was being created directly from
lyx code.  I was thinking it was going through some common
intermediate format.  Since not, the problem is between me
and elyxer and probably insoluble since neither HTML or
Lyx code have a any concept of a letter sized page.








Re: HTML Pagination Issues (elyxer)

2012-04-26 Thread Raymond Lillard

On 04/26/2012 04:48 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 04/26/2012 06:27 PM, Raymond Lillard wrote:


Sorry, but LyXHTML is too ugly for my taste.


How so? Do you mean the visual output or the file structure, or?


Richard,

I'm not experienced enough at HTML to have an opinion
on file structure.

When I set the document default output to HTML (filtered
through elyxer) the viewed document is more visually
appealing than when set to LyXHTML. Perhaps ugly is too
strong a word here, but I think most people would agree
it looks dated.

I didn't mean to give offense and please don't take my
comment that way.

It has been said that a gentleman never gives offense,
unintentionally.

If you or the Lyx team were offended, then my normal
gentlemanly demeanor has suffered a glitch.

Regards,
Ray


Re: HTML Pagination Issues (elyxer)

2012-04-26 Thread Raymond Lillard

On 04/26/2012 05:15 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 04/25/2012 11:59 PM, Raymond Lillard wrote:

Dear Lyx-Users,

I have looked and read documentation and Googled for
hours and have yet to find answers to two questions.

My Lyx environment:

Lyx 2.1.0svn as of about a week ago.
TexLive2011 + updates also current about a week ago.

I have written a ~100 page document and would like
to accomplish two things. While writing this document
I have been previewing it as a PDF and now have a nice
looking document.

I have been asked to prepare an HTML version of the
document. I have done so and it too looks really nice
with two minor (well maybe 1 1/2) flaws.

The first and most bothersome is that I have placed
some ERT to handle page numbering in the PDF output.

For the cover page:
\thispagestyleempty

and for general page numbering:
\lhead Name: \pagenumberingroman

This ERT appears in my HTML output when view in a
browser.

What are you using to produce the HTML output? LyX's own method should
not do this, and does not do it in the test I just ran.


$ elyxer --version
* eLyXer version 1.2.3 (2011-08-31)

When my document output format is set to HTML I get:
Line 3: * Warning: unsupported new format version 430
Line 149: * Unknown command \thispagestyle
Line 192: * Unknown command \lhead
Line 192: * Unknown command \pagenumbering
Line 262: * Unknown command \pagenumbering
Line 262: * Unknown command \topmargin
on STDERR from elyxer.

These unrecognized commands get passed through as plain
text in the HTML.

Sorry, but LyXHTML is too ugly for my taste.

I'm not clear on these things, but it looks like
Elyxer is not maintained by the Lyx project.  Should
I take silly little problem elsewhere?



I would like to not need to modify the document
depending on the output form. Is this possible?


You could use branches to turn things on and off.


Secondly, I would like the output to be one large
file but with defined page numbers just like the PDF.


I guess I don't really understand this. I'd be happy to add it to LyX's
XHTML output routine, but how does one know where to break the pages?


OK, I made an incorrect assumption when I wrote the above.
I didn't realize the HTML was being created directly from
lyx code.  I was thinking it was going through some common
intermediate format.  Since not, the problem is between me
and elyxer and probably insoluble since neither HTML or
Lyx code have a any concept of a letter sized page.








Re: HTML Pagination Issues (elyxer)

2012-04-26 Thread Raymond Lillard

On 04/26/2012 04:48 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 04/26/2012 06:27 PM, Raymond Lillard wrote:


Sorry, but LyXHTML is too ugly for my taste.


How so? Do you mean the visual output or the file structure, or?


Richard,

I'm not experienced enough at HTML to have an opinion
on file structure.

When I set the document default output to HTML (filtered
through elyxer) the viewed document is more visually
appealing than when set to LyXHTML. Perhaps ugly is too
strong a word here, but I think most people would agree
it looks dated.

I didn't mean to give offense and please don't take my
comment that way.

It has been said that a gentleman never gives offense,
unintentionally.

If you or the Lyx team were offended, then my normal
gentlemanly demeanor has suffered a glitch.

Regards,
Ray


Re: HTML Pagination Issues (elyxer)

2012-04-26 Thread Raymond Lillard

On 04/26/2012 05:15 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 04/25/2012 11:59 PM, Raymond Lillard wrote:

Dear Lyx-Users,

I have looked and read documentation and Googled for
hours and have yet to find answers to two questions.

My Lyx environment:

Lyx 2.1.0svn as of about a week ago.
TexLive2011 + updates also current about a week ago.

I have written a ~100 page document and would like
to accomplish two things. While writing this document
I have been previewing it as a PDF and now have a nice
looking document.

I have been asked to prepare an HTML version of the
document. I have done so and it too looks really nice
with two minor (well maybe 1 1/2) flaws.

The first and most bothersome is that I have placed
some ERT to handle page numbering in the PDF output.

For the cover page:
\thispagestyleempty

and for general page numbering:
\lhead Name: \pagenumberingroman

This ERT appears in my HTML output when view in a
browser.

What are you using to produce the HTML output? LyX's own method should
not do this, and does not do it in the test I just ran.


$ elyxer --version
* eLyXer version 1.2.3 (2011-08-31)

When my document output format is set to HTML I get:
Line 3: * Warning: unsupported new format version 430
Line 149: * Unknown command \thispagestyle
Line 192: * Unknown command \lhead
Line 192: * Unknown command \pagenumbering
Line 262: * Unknown command \pagenumbering
Line 262: * Unknown command \topmargin
on STDERR from elyxer.

These unrecognized commands get passed through as plain
text in the HTML.

Sorry, but LyXHTML is too ugly for my taste.

I'm not clear on these things, but it looks like
Elyxer is not maintained by the Lyx project.  Should
I take silly little problem elsewhere?



I would like to not need to modify the document
depending on the output form. Is this possible?


You could use branches to turn things on and off.


Secondly, I would like the output to be one large
file but with defined page numbers just like the PDF.


I guess I don't really understand this. I'd be happy to add it to LyX's
XHTML output routine, but how does one know where to break the pages?


OK, I made an incorrect assumption when I wrote the above.
I didn't realize the HTML was being created directly from
lyx code.  I was thinking it was going through some common
intermediate format.  Since not, the problem is between me
and elyxer and probably insoluble since neither HTML or
Lyx code have a any concept of a letter sized page.








Re: HTML Pagination Issues (elyxer)

2012-04-26 Thread Raymond Lillard

On 04/26/2012 04:48 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 04/26/2012 06:27 PM, Raymond Lillard wrote:


Sorry, but LyXHTML is too ugly for my taste.


How so? Do you mean the visual output or the file structure, or?


Richard,

I'm not experienced enough at HTML to have an opinion
on file structure.

When I set the document default output to HTML (filtered
through elyxer) the viewed document is more visually
appealing than when set to LyXHTML. Perhaps ugly is too
strong a word here, but I think most people would agree
it looks dated.

I didn't mean to give offense and please don't take my
comment that way.

It has been said that a gentleman never gives offense,
unintentionally.

If you or the Lyx team were offended, then my normal
gentlemanly demeanor has suffered a glitch.

Regards,
Ray


HTML Pagination Issues

2012-04-25 Thread Raymond Lillard

Dear Lyx-Users,

I have looked and read documentation and Googled for
hours and have yet to find answers to two questions.

My Lyx environment:

Lyx 2.1.0svn as of about a week ago.
TexLive2011 + updates also current about a week ago.

I have written a ~100 page document and would like
to accomplish two things.  While writing this document
I have been previewing it as a PDF and now have a nice
looking document.

I have been asked to prepare an HTML version of the
document. I have done so and it too looks really nice
with two minor (well maybe 1 1/2) flaws.

The first and most bothersome is that I have placed
some ERT to handle page numbering in the PDF output.

For the cover page:
\thispagestyleempty

and for general page numbering:
\lhead Name: \pagenumberingroman

This ERT appears in my HTML output when view in a
browser.

I would like to not need to modify the document
depending on the output form.  Is this possible?

Secondly, I would like the output to be one large
file but with defined page numbers just like the PDF.

I know about the pagination offered by elyxer, but
that breaks the document into separate files based
on document structure.  Not what I want.

I apologize if this is easy, I am by no means a Tex guru
and I realize this sort of thing was not part of the
original Tex program.

My docs are beautiful, and I offer my thanks to all
the developers.

Regards,
Ray







HTML Pagination Issues

2012-04-25 Thread Raymond Lillard

Dear Lyx-Users,

I have looked and read documentation and Googled for
hours and have yet to find answers to two questions.

My Lyx environment:

Lyx 2.1.0svn as of about a week ago.
TexLive2011 + updates also current about a week ago.

I have written a ~100 page document and would like
to accomplish two things.  While writing this document
I have been previewing it as a PDF and now have a nice
looking document.

I have been asked to prepare an HTML version of the
document. I have done so and it too looks really nice
with two minor (well maybe 1 1/2) flaws.

The first and most bothersome is that I have placed
some ERT to handle page numbering in the PDF output.

For the cover page:
\thispagestyleempty

and for general page numbering:
\lhead Name: \pagenumberingroman

This ERT appears in my HTML output when view in a
browser.

I would like to not need to modify the document
depending on the output form.  Is this possible?

Secondly, I would like the output to be one large
file but with defined page numbers just like the PDF.

I know about the pagination offered by elyxer, but
that breaks the document into separate files based
on document structure.  Not what I want.

I apologize if this is easy, I am by no means a Tex guru
and I realize this sort of thing was not part of the
original Tex program.

My docs are beautiful, and I offer my thanks to all
the developers.

Regards,
Ray







HTML Pagination Issues

2012-04-25 Thread Raymond Lillard

Dear Lyx-Users,

I have looked and read documentation and Googled for
hours and have yet to find answers to two questions.

My Lyx environment:

Lyx 2.1.0svn as of about a week ago.
TexLive2011 + updates also current about a week ago.

I have written a ~100 page document and would like
to accomplish two things.  While writing this document
I have been previewing it as a PDF and now have a nice
looking document.

I have been asked to prepare an HTML version of the
document. I have done so and it too looks really nice
with two minor (well maybe 1 1/2) flaws.

The first and most bothersome is that I have placed
some ERT to handle page numbering in the PDF output.

For the cover page:
\thispagestyleempty

and for general page numbering:
\lhead Name: \pagenumberingroman

This ERT appears in my HTML output when view in a
browser.

I would like to not need to modify the document
depending on the output form.  Is this possible?

Secondly, I would like the output to be one large
file but with defined page numbers just like the PDF.

I know about the pagination offered by elyxer, but
that breaks the document into separate files based
on document structure.  Not what I want.

I apologize if this is easy, I am by no means a Tex guru
and I realize this sort of thing was not part of the
original Tex program.

My docs are beautiful, and I offer my thanks to all
the developers.

Regards,
Ray







Re: Thanks for LyX

2010-09-09 Thread Raymond Lillard

On 09/09/2010 11:06 AM, Manolo Martínez wrote:

I wanted to take the chance provided by one of the periodic thanks for
lyx messages that Steve sends :) to tell my own success story.


In like vein, I just finished a 60 page protocol document
for a piece of highly configurable instrumentation.

I spent less than 2 weeks on it.  I could have used Word
like my client thought he wanted and then milked it for
another 2 weeks. :-)  Just for the record, I used the
article class.

BTW, I not a professional tech-writer.  I'm an electrical
engineer who also writes mainly embedded firmware.  While I
have many painful memories of troff, I no experience to
speak of with Latex.  The point being, one can be productive
with Lyx w/o being a Tex guru.

Feeling adventurous, I pulled down the SVN version and
used that because I wanted some of the new features not
back-ported to 1.6.x.  I suffered a few crashes, but was
not able to make them consistent enough build a bug case.
The few crashes were not often enough to interfere with
my progress.

Well done and thanks to the team who is working on Lyx2.

Ray Lillard



Re: Thanks for LyX

2010-09-09 Thread Raymond Lillard

On 09/09/2010 11:06 AM, Manolo Martínez wrote:

I wanted to take the chance provided by one of the periodic thanks for
lyx messages that Steve sends :) to tell my own success story.


In like vein, I just finished a 60 page protocol document
for a piece of highly configurable instrumentation.

I spent less than 2 weeks on it.  I could have used Word
like my client thought he wanted and then milked it for
another 2 weeks. :-)  Just for the record, I used the
article class.

BTW, I not a professional tech-writer.  I'm an electrical
engineer who also writes mainly embedded firmware.  While I
have many painful memories of troff, I no experience to
speak of with Latex.  The point being, one can be productive
with Lyx w/o being a Tex guru.

Feeling adventurous, I pulled down the SVN version and
used that because I wanted some of the new features not
back-ported to 1.6.x.  I suffered a few crashes, but was
not able to make them consistent enough build a bug case.
The few crashes were not often enough to interfere with
my progress.

Well done and thanks to the team who is working on Lyx2.

Ray Lillard



Re: Thanks for LyX

2010-09-09 Thread Raymond Lillard

On 09/09/2010 11:06 AM, Manolo Martínez wrote:

I wanted to take the chance provided by one of the periodic "thanks for
lyx" messages that Steve sends :) to tell my own success story.


In like vein, I just finished a 60 page protocol document
for a piece of highly configurable instrumentation.

I spent less than 2 weeks on it.  I could have used Word
like my client thought he wanted and then milked it for
another 2 weeks. :-)  Just for the record, I used the
article class.

BTW, I not a professional tech-writer.  I'm an electrical
engineer who also writes mainly embedded firmware.  While I
have many painful memories of troff, I no experience to
speak of with Latex.  The point being, one can be productive
with Lyx w/o being a Tex guru.

Feeling adventurous, I pulled down the SVN version and
used that because I wanted some of the new features not
back-ported to 1.6.x.  I suffered a few crashes, but was
not able to make them consistent enough build a bug case.
The few crashes were not often enough to interfere with
my progress.

Well done and thanks to the team who is working on Lyx2.

Ray Lillard