Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Does anyone know of a tool which would be useful to traverse a web site
 and check which links doesn't work?  (In this case we are primarily
 interested in links starting with 'http://wiki.lyx.org/').

 I've had good luck with Xenu Link Sleuth 
 (http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html), but it's a Windows-only 
 program (although the web site says it appears to run under Wine). 
 Tried it on the Wiki, using 30 threads (could do more) and checking 
 internal links only.

That sounds good. Could you let it run to completion and let me know the 
result? (Send the log privately if it's too big)

I'm not able to run it any closer than you on a windows machine. 
Actually... I guess that bit depends on our geographic locations :-)

 Might run faster if run on the server or on a machine closer to the
 server (in the sense of fewer hops).

Speed isn't really an issue here, as long as it finishes before say
version LyX 1.4 arrives ;-)

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Georg Baum wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:
  http://validator.w3.org/checklink/
  
  Hmm... I have to disable 'robots.txt', and it seems awfully slow. Thanks
  anyway, I'll keep it in mind while looking at other options.
 
 You can make exceptions in robots.txt for exactly this client. See
 http://validator.w3.org/docs/checklink.html

Thanks for the info, I've modified robots.txt now and I'm looking into it
further (trying to see if I can validate the HTML while I'm at it).

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Todd Denniston wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Georg Baum wrote:
  
  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:
 
 http://validator.w3.org/checklink/
 
 Hmm... I have to disable 'robots.txt', and it seems awfully slow. Thanks
 anyway, I'll keep it in mind while looking at other options.
 
 You can make exceptions in robots.txt for exactly this client. See
 http://validator.w3.org/docs/checklink.html
  
  
  Thanks for the info, I've modified robots.txt now and I'm looking into it
  further (trying to see if I can validate the HTML while I'm at it).
  
  /Christian
  
 
 Did you notice the install it locally link?

Yes... some dependencies aren't satisfied at the server where it should
ideally be installed. I'll ask Lars about this.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Georg Baum wrote:

 Todd Denniston wrote:
 
  Did you notice the install it locally link?
  http://validator.w3.org/docs/checklink.html#install
  IIF you have all the prereqs installed you could mod the checker to take
  out the 1 second wait it has and run that instead of the one they have
  online.
 
 But you should only do that if you restrict the check to local links.
 Otherwise it is rude to the ckecked servers. Anyway, the delay should not
 matter at all if you install it locally and run it from a cron job every
 few days.

I've got it working locally now (the dependencies that were missing aren't 
critical).

I'm also only interested in checking local links, so that should be fine.

Not sure this has to be run very often though... I thought just now and 
then. There's not that much traffic on the wiki anyway [*].

Thanks for the help guys!
/Christian

[1] One idea might be to run the test only on pages that have actually 
changed. 

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Georg Baum wrote:

 Todd Denniston wrote:
 
  Did you notice the install it locally link?
  http://validator.w3.org/docs/checklink.html#install
  IIF you have all the prereqs installed you could mod the checker to take
  out the 1 second wait it has and run that instead of the one they have
  online.
 
 But you should only do that if you restrict the check to local links.

You wouldn't happen to know how to do that? I can't figure it out from the 
manual, and perl isn't my strong suit.

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Does anyone know of a tool which would be useful to traverse a web site
 and check which links doesn't work?  (In this case we are primarily
 interested in links starting with 'http://wiki.lyx.org/').

 I've had good luck with Xenu Link Sleuth 
 (http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html), but it's a Windows-only 
 program (although the web site says it appears to run under Wine). 
 Tried it on the Wiki, using 30 threads (could do more) and checking 
 internal links only.

That sounds good. Could you let it run to completion and let me know the 
result? (Send the log privately if it's too big)

I'm not able to run it any closer than you on a windows machine. 
Actually... I guess that bit depends on our geographic locations :-)

 Might run faster if run on the server or on a machine closer to the
 server (in the sense of fewer hops).

Speed isn't really an issue here, as long as it finishes before say
version LyX 1.4 arrives ;-)

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Georg Baum wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:
  http://validator.w3.org/checklink/
  
  Hmm... I have to disable 'robots.txt', and it seems awfully slow. Thanks
  anyway, I'll keep it in mind while looking at other options.
 
 You can make exceptions in robots.txt for exactly this client. See
 http://validator.w3.org/docs/checklink.html

Thanks for the info, I've modified robots.txt now and I'm looking into it
further (trying to see if I can validate the HTML while I'm at it).

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Todd Denniston wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Georg Baum wrote:
  
  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:
 
 http://validator.w3.org/checklink/
 
 Hmm... I have to disable 'robots.txt', and it seems awfully slow. Thanks
 anyway, I'll keep it in mind while looking at other options.
 
 You can make exceptions in robots.txt for exactly this client. See
 http://validator.w3.org/docs/checklink.html
  
  
  Thanks for the info, I've modified robots.txt now and I'm looking into it
  further (trying to see if I can validate the HTML while I'm at it).
  
  /Christian
  
 
 Did you notice the install it locally link?

Yes... some dependencies aren't satisfied at the server where it should
ideally be installed. I'll ask Lars about this.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Georg Baum wrote:

 Todd Denniston wrote:
 
  Did you notice the install it locally link?
  http://validator.w3.org/docs/checklink.html#install
  IIF you have all the prereqs installed you could mod the checker to take
  out the 1 second wait it has and run that instead of the one they have
  online.
 
 But you should only do that if you restrict the check to local links.
 Otherwise it is rude to the ckecked servers. Anyway, the delay should not
 matter at all if you install it locally and run it from a cron job every
 few days.

I've got it working locally now (the dependencies that were missing aren't 
critical).

I'm also only interested in checking local links, so that should be fine.

Not sure this has to be run very often though... I thought just now and 
then. There's not that much traffic on the wiki anyway [*].

Thanks for the help guys!
/Christian

[1] One idea might be to run the test only on pages that have actually 
changed. 

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Georg Baum wrote:

 Todd Denniston wrote:
 
  Did you notice the install it locally link?
  http://validator.w3.org/docs/checklink.html#install
  IIF you have all the prereqs installed you could mod the checker to take
  out the 1 second wait it has and run that instead of the one they have
  online.
 
 But you should only do that if you restrict the check to local links.

You wouldn't happen to know how to do that? I can't figure it out from the 
manual, and perl isn't my strong suit.

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

> >>>Does anyone know of a tool which would be useful to traverse a web site
> >>>and check which links doesn't work?  (In this case we are primarily
> >>>interested in links starting with 'http://wiki.lyx.org/').

> I've had good luck with Xenu Link Sleuth 
> (http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html), but it's a Windows-only 
> program (although the web site says it appears to run under Wine). 
> Tried it on the Wiki, using 30 threads (could do more) and checking 
> internal links only.

That sounds good. Could you let it run to completion and let me know the 
result? (Send the log privately if it's too big)

I'm not able to run it any closer than you on a windows machine. 
Actually... I guess that bit depends on our geographic locations :-)

> Might run faster if run on the server or on a machine closer to the
> server (in the sense of fewer hops).

Speed isn't really an issue here, as long as it finishes before say
version LyX 1.4 arrives ;-)

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Georg Baum wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:
> >> http://validator.w3.org/checklink/
> > 
> > Hmm... I have to disable 'robots.txt', and it seems awfully slow. Thanks
> > anyway, I'll keep it in mind while looking at other options.
> 
> You can make exceptions in robots.txt for exactly this client. See
> http://validator.w3.org/docs/checklink.html

Thanks for the info, I've modified robots.txt now and I'm looking into it
further (trying to see if I can validate the HTML while I'm at it).

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Todd Denniston wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Georg Baum wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>http://validator.w3.org/checklink/
> >>>
> >>>Hmm... I have to disable 'robots.txt', and it seems awfully slow. Thanks
> >>>anyway, I'll keep it in mind while looking at other options.
> >>
> >>You can make exceptions in robots.txt for exactly this client. See
> >>http://validator.w3.org/docs/checklink.html
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the info, I've modified robots.txt now and I'm looking into it
> > further (trying to see if I can validate the HTML while I'm at it).
> > 
> > /Christian
> > 
> 
> Did you notice the install it locally link?

Yes... some dependencies aren't satisfied at the server where it should
ideally be installed. I'll ask Lars about this.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Georg Baum wrote:

> Todd Denniston wrote:
> 
> > Did you notice the install it locally link?
> > http://validator.w3.org/docs/checklink.html#install
> > IIF you have all the prereqs installed you could mod the checker to take
> > out the 1 second wait it has and run that instead of the one they have
> > online.
> 
> But you should only do that if you restrict the check to local links.
> Otherwise it is rude to the ckecked servers. Anyway, the delay should not
> matter at all if you install it locally and run it from a cron job every
> few days.

I've got it working locally now (the dependencies that were missing aren't 
critical).

I'm also only interested in checking local links, so that should be fine.

Not sure this has to be run very often though... I thought just now and 
then. There's not that much traffic on the wiki anyway [*].

Thanks for the help guys!
/Christian

[1] One idea might be to run the test only on pages that have actually 
changed. 

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-15 Thread chr
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Georg Baum wrote:

> Todd Denniston wrote:
> 
> > Did you notice the install it locally link?
> > http://validator.w3.org/docs/checklink.html#install
> > IIF you have all the prereqs installed you could mod the checker to take
> > out the 1 second wait it has and run that instead of the one they have
> > online.
> 
> But you should only do that if you restrict the check to local links.

You wouldn't happen to know how to do that? I can't figure it out from the 
manual, and perl isn't my strong suit.

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




some links not translated correctly. (Was: Re: Wiki upgraded...)

2005-12-14 Thread chr
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Todd Denniston wrote:

 SNIP

 
 If you have an easy way to do it, a search for
 \[\[uploads:*g \\\n*uploads:*g\]\]
 on the whole wiki might be in order.

Thanks for the tip Todd, I've gone through the pages looking for 

[[uploads:

fixing some stuff, and I don't think there are any errors left now (at 
least not in this exact form:-)

best regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - some links not translated correctly.

2005-12-14 Thread chr

 If you have an easy way to do it, a search for
 \[\[uploads:*g \\\n*uploads:*g\]\]
 on the whole wiki might be in order.

I did something very similar to this and fixed a few (3-4) pages where 
this occured.

thanks
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-14 Thread chr
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Todd Denniston wrote:

 Oh, and it would be a good idea for someone to make sure all the links
 work correctly now...

Does anyone know of a tool which would be useful to traverse a web site
and check which links doesn't work?  (In this case we are primarily
interested in links starting with 'http://wiki.lyx.org/').

I believe 'wget' might be used, but I'm not versed well enough in it to 
say how it's actually done.

regards
/Christian

(I'll also go and ask on the wiki list about this in general)

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




PDF to Wiki (Was: How to verify links)

2005-12-14 Thread chr
Hi Stephen

I forwarded your question to the pmwiki-list as well, see more below.

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Stephen Harris wrote:

 Hello Christian,
 
 I borrowed this subject to ask you a vaguely related question.
 Is there away for the Wiki to automatically convert a .pdf file
 into the Wiki format? A pdf2wiki ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen 

Hmm... a PDF to wiki I don't think I've heard that one before. But 
maybe someone on the pmwiki list has.  Perhaps PDF - RTF - wiki, or 
possibly PDF - HTML - wiki.  However, you'll probably lose a lot of 
formatting, so unless you're primarily looking at just converting text I 
think it's a no go.

regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-14 Thread chr
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Todd Denniston wrote:
  
  Oh, and it would be a good idea for someone to make sure all the links
  work correctly now...
  
  Does anyone know of a tool which would be useful to traverse a web site
  and check which links doesn't work?  (In this case we are primarily
  interested in links starting with 'http://wiki.lyx.org/').
 
 http://validator.w3.org/checklink/

Hmm... I have to disable 'robots.txt', and it seems awfully slow. Thanks 
anyway, I'll keep it in mind while looking at other options.

/Christian
 
 

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




some links not translated correctly. (Was: Re: Wiki upgraded...)

2005-12-14 Thread chr
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Todd Denniston wrote:

 SNIP

 
 If you have an easy way to do it, a search for
 \[\[uploads:*g \\\n*uploads:*g\]\]
 on the whole wiki might be in order.

Thanks for the tip Todd, I've gone through the pages looking for 

[[uploads:

fixing some stuff, and I don't think there are any errors left now (at 
least not in this exact form:-)

best regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - some links not translated correctly.

2005-12-14 Thread chr

 If you have an easy way to do it, a search for
 \[\[uploads:*g \\\n*uploads:*g\]\]
 on the whole wiki might be in order.

I did something very similar to this and fixed a few (3-4) pages where 
this occured.

thanks
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-14 Thread chr
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Todd Denniston wrote:

 Oh, and it would be a good idea for someone to make sure all the links
 work correctly now...

Does anyone know of a tool which would be useful to traverse a web site
and check which links doesn't work?  (In this case we are primarily
interested in links starting with 'http://wiki.lyx.org/').

I believe 'wget' might be used, but I'm not versed well enough in it to 
say how it's actually done.

regards
/Christian

(I'll also go and ask on the wiki list about this in general)

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




PDF to Wiki (Was: How to verify links)

2005-12-14 Thread chr
Hi Stephen

I forwarded your question to the pmwiki-list as well, see more below.

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Stephen Harris wrote:

 Hello Christian,
 
 I borrowed this subject to ask you a vaguely related question.
 Is there away for the Wiki to automatically convert a .pdf file
 into the Wiki format? A pdf2wiki ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen 

Hmm... a PDF to wiki I don't think I've heard that one before. But 
maybe someone on the pmwiki list has.  Perhaps PDF - RTF - wiki, or 
possibly PDF - HTML - wiki.  However, you'll probably lose a lot of 
formatting, so unless you're primarily looking at just converting text I 
think it's a no go.

regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-14 Thread chr
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Todd Denniston wrote:
  
  Oh, and it would be a good idea for someone to make sure all the links
  work correctly now...
  
  Does anyone know of a tool which would be useful to traverse a web site
  and check which links doesn't work?  (In this case we are primarily
  interested in links starting with 'http://wiki.lyx.org/').
 
 http://validator.w3.org/checklink/

Hmm... I have to disable 'robots.txt', and it seems awfully slow. Thanks 
anyway, I'll keep it in mind while looking at other options.

/Christian
 
 

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




some links not translated correctly. (Was: Re: Wiki upgraded...)

2005-12-14 Thread chr
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Todd Denniston wrote:

> 

> 
> If you have an easy way to do it, a search for
> \[\[uploads:*g \\\n*uploads:*g\]\]
> on the whole wiki might be in order.

Thanks for the tip Todd, I've gone through the pages looking for 

[[uploads:

fixing some stuff, and I don't think there are any errors left now (at 
least not in this exact form:-)

best regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - some links not translated correctly.

2005-12-14 Thread chr

> If you have an easy way to do it, a search for
> \[\[uploads:*g \\\n*uploads:*g\]\]
> on the whole wiki might be in order.

I did something very similar to this and fixed a few (3-4) pages where 
this occured.

thanks
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-14 Thread chr
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Todd Denniston wrote:

> Oh, and it would be a good idea for someone to make sure all the links
> work correctly now...

Does anyone know of a tool which would be useful to traverse a web site
and check which links doesn't work?  (In this case we are primarily
interested in links starting with 'http://wiki.lyx.org/').

I believe 'wget' might be used, but I'm not versed well enough in it to 
say how it's actually done.

regards
/Christian

(I'll also go and ask on the wiki list about this in general)

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




PDF to Wiki (Was: How to verify links)

2005-12-14 Thread chr
Hi Stephen

I forwarded your question to the pmwiki-list as well, see more below.

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Stephen Harris wrote:

> Hello Christian,
> 
> I borrowed this subject to ask you a vaguely related question.
> Is there away for the Wiki to automatically convert a .pdf file
> into the Wiki format? A pdf2wiki ?
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen 

Hmm... a PDF to wiki I don't think I've heard that one before. But 
maybe someone on the pmwiki list has.  Perhaps PDF -> RTF -> wiki, or 
possibly PDF -> HTML -> wiki.  However, you'll probably lose a lot of 
formatting, so unless you're primarily looking at just converting text I 
think it's a no go.

regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44       http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: How to verify links on wiki.lyx? (Was: ...)

2005-12-14 Thread chr
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Todd Denniston wrote:
> > 
> >> Oh, and it would be a good idea for someone to make sure all the links
> >> work correctly now...
> > 
> > Does anyone know of a tool which would be useful to traverse a web site
> > and check which links doesn't work?  (In this case we are primarily
> > interested in links starting with 'http://wiki.lyx.org/').
> 
> http://validator.w3.org/checklink/

Hmm... I have to disable 'robots.txt', and it seems awfully slow. Thanks 
anyway, I'll keep it in mind while looking at other options.

/Christian
> 
> 

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: missing documentation ...?

2005-12-13 Thread chr
Hi Martin

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 that is pretty clear. now, it would be nice if your explanation was part of
 the documentation!

I didn't follow this thread to closely, but something that may help others
is to the information to some of the wiki pages. Perhaps one of these:

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Tips/PaperLayout
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/FAQ/Units

or maybe a completely new page? If you'd like to to this and need some 
help, just give me a shout.

/Christian

PS. A very simple way of documenting this is to simply create a wiki 
page and from that page add link to this thread. See here for an example

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/LinkingToGmanePost

although gmane (which archives the lists) seems a bit slow at the moment.
What you do is simply adding something like this to the wiki page:

 LyxUsersThread:26572

where 26572 is a number that indicates the post... rather amazing that the 
user's list is up to 26000 posts btw.

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr





[Completely O-T] Re: There's Something About Textclass.ls

2005-12-13 Thread chr
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

 That's exactly what I mean.
 
  The best laid plans of mice and men...,
  Stephen
 
 The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
 Gang aft agley,
 An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
 For promis'd joy!
 
 Still, thou art blest, compar'd wi' me!
 The present only toucheth thee:
 But Och! I backward cast my e'e,
 On prospects drear!
 An' forward, tho' I canna see,
 I guess an' fear!

Curiousity aroused, I couldn't help myself:
http://www.electricscotland.com/burns/mouse.html

To A Mouse  (by Robert Burns)

Wee, sleeket, cowran, tim'rous beastie,
   O, what panic's in thy breastie!
   Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
   Wi' bickering brattle!
 I wad be laith to rin an' chase thee,
   Wi' murd'ring pattle!

 I'm truly sorry Man's dominion 
   Has broken Nature's social union, 
An' justifies that ill opinion, 
  Which makes thee startle, 
At me, thy poor, earth-born companion, 
 An' fellow-mortal! 

 I doubt na, whyles, but thou may thieve; 
  What then? poor beastie, thou maun live! 
   A daimen-icker in a thrave 'S a sma' request: 
 I'll get a blessin wi' the lave, 
   An' never miss't! 

Thy wee-bit housie, too, in ruin! 
  It's silly wa's the win's are strewin! 
   An' naething, now, to big a new ane, 
O' foggage green! 
An' bleak December's winds ensuin, 
Baith snell an' keen! 

 Thou saw the fields laid bare an' wast, 
  An' weary Winter comin fast, 
 An' cozie here, beneath the blast, 
 Thou thought to dwell, 
Till crash! the cruel coulter past 
Out thro' thy cell. 

That wee-bit heap o' leaves an' stibble, 
 Has cost thee monie a weary nibble! 
   Now thou's turn'd out, for a' thy trouble, 
  But house or hald. 
To thole the Winter's sleety dribble, 
 An' cranreuch cauld! 

 But Mousie, thou are no thy-lane, 
 In proving foresight may be vain: 
  The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men, 
   Gang aft agley, 
 An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain, 
  For promis'd joy! 

 Still, thou art blest, compar'd wi' me! 
The present only toucheth thee: 
 But Och! I backward cast my e'e, 
  On prospects drear! 
 An' forward, tho' I canna see, 
 I guess an' fear! 

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: missing documentation ...?

2005-12-13 Thread chr
Hi Martin

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 that is pretty clear. now, it would be nice if your explanation was part of
 the documentation!

I didn't follow this thread to closely, but something that may help others
is to the information to some of the wiki pages. Perhaps one of these:

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Tips/PaperLayout
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/FAQ/Units

or maybe a completely new page? If you'd like to to this and need some 
help, just give me a shout.

/Christian

PS. A very simple way of documenting this is to simply create a wiki 
page and from that page add link to this thread. See here for an example

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/LinkingToGmanePost

although gmane (which archives the lists) seems a bit slow at the moment.
What you do is simply adding something like this to the wiki page:

 LyxUsersThread:26572

where 26572 is a number that indicates the post... rather amazing that the 
user's list is up to 26000 posts btw.

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr





[Completely O-T] Re: There's Something About Textclass.ls

2005-12-13 Thread chr
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

 That's exactly what I mean.
 
  The best laid plans of mice and men...,
  Stephen
 
 The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
 Gang aft agley,
 An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
 For promis'd joy!
 
 Still, thou art blest, compar'd wi' me!
 The present only toucheth thee:
 But Och! I backward cast my e'e,
 On prospects drear!
 An' forward, tho' I canna see,
 I guess an' fear!

Curiousity aroused, I couldn't help myself:
http://www.electricscotland.com/burns/mouse.html

To A Mouse  (by Robert Burns)

Wee, sleeket, cowran, tim'rous beastie,
   O, what panic's in thy breastie!
   Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
   Wi' bickering brattle!
 I wad be laith to rin an' chase thee,
   Wi' murd'ring pattle!

 I'm truly sorry Man's dominion 
   Has broken Nature's social union, 
An' justifies that ill opinion, 
  Which makes thee startle, 
At me, thy poor, earth-born companion, 
 An' fellow-mortal! 

 I doubt na, whyles, but thou may thieve; 
  What then? poor beastie, thou maun live! 
   A daimen-icker in a thrave 'S a sma' request: 
 I'll get a blessin wi' the lave, 
   An' never miss't! 

Thy wee-bit housie, too, in ruin! 
  It's silly wa's the win's are strewin! 
   An' naething, now, to big a new ane, 
O' foggage green! 
An' bleak December's winds ensuin, 
Baith snell an' keen! 

 Thou saw the fields laid bare an' wast, 
  An' weary Winter comin fast, 
 An' cozie here, beneath the blast, 
 Thou thought to dwell, 
Till crash! the cruel coulter past 
Out thro' thy cell. 

That wee-bit heap o' leaves an' stibble, 
 Has cost thee monie a weary nibble! 
   Now thou's turn'd out, for a' thy trouble, 
  But house or hald. 
To thole the Winter's sleety dribble, 
 An' cranreuch cauld! 

 But Mousie, thou are no thy-lane, 
 In proving foresight may be vain: 
  The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men, 
   Gang aft agley, 
 An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain, 
  For promis'd joy! 

 Still, thou art blest, compar'd wi' me! 
The present only toucheth thee: 
 But Och! I backward cast my e'e, 
  On prospects drear! 
 An' forward, tho' I canna see, 
 I guess an' fear! 

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: missing documentation ...?

2005-12-13 Thread chr
Hi Martin

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

> that is pretty clear. now, it would be nice if your explanation was part of
> the documentation!

I didn't follow this thread to closely, but something that may help others
is to the information to some of the wiki pages. Perhaps one of these:

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Tips/PaperLayout
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/FAQ/Units

or maybe a completely new page? If you'd like to to this and need some 
help, just give me a shout.

/Christian

PS. A very simple way of "documenting" this is to simply create a wiki 
page and from that page add link to this thread. See here for an example

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/LinkingToGmanePost

although gmane (which archives the lists) seems a bit slow at the moment.
What you do is simply adding something like this to the wiki page:

 LyxUsersThread:26572

where 26572 is a number that indicates the post... rather amazing that the 
user's list is up to >26000 posts btw.

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr





[Completely O-T] Re: There's Something About Textclass.ls

2005-12-13 Thread chr
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

> That's exactly what I mean.
> 
> > The best laid plans of mice and men...,
> > Stephen
> 
> The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
> Gang aft agley,
> An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
> For promis'd joy!
> 
> Still, thou art blest, compar'd wi' me!
> The present only toucheth thee:
> But Och! I backward cast my e'e,
> On prospects drear!
> An' forward, tho' I canna see,
> I guess an' fear!

Curiousity aroused, I couldn't help myself:
http://www.electricscotland.com/burns/mouse.html

To A Mouse  (by Robert Burns)

Wee, sleeket, cowran, tim'rous beastie,
   O, what panic's in thy breastie!
   Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
   Wi' bickering brattle!
 I wad be laith to rin an' chase thee,
   Wi' murd'ring pattle!

 I'm truly sorry Man's dominion 
   Has broken Nature's social union, 
An' justifies that ill opinion, 
  Which makes thee startle, 
At me, thy poor, earth-born companion, 
 An' fellow-mortal! 

 I doubt na, whyles, but thou may thieve; 
  What then? poor beastie, thou maun live! 
   A daimen-icker in a thrave 'S a sma' request: 
 I'll get a blessin wi' the lave, 
   An' never miss't! 

Thy wee-bit housie, too, in ruin! 
  It's silly wa's the win's are strewin! 
   An' naething, now, to big a new ane, 
O' foggage green! 
An' bleak December's winds ensuin, 
Baith snell an' keen! 

 Thou saw the fields laid bare an' wast, 
  An' weary Winter comin fast, 
 An' cozie here, beneath the blast, 
 Thou thought to dwell, 
Till crash! the cruel coulter past 
Out thro' thy cell. 

That wee-bit heap o' leaves an' stibble, 
 Has cost thee monie a weary nibble! 
   Now thou's turn'd out, for a' thy trouble, 
  But house or hald. 
To thole the Winter's sleety dribble, 
 An' cranreuch cauld! 

 But Mousie, thou are no thy-lane, 
 In proving foresight may be vain: 
  The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men, 
   Gang aft agley, 
 An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain, 
  For promis'd joy! 

 Still, thou art blest, compar'd wi' me! 
The present only toucheth thee: 
 But Och! I backward cast my e'e, 
  On prospects drear! 
 An' forward, tho' I canna see, 
 I guess an' fear! 

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-09 Thread chr
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Done. Hmm... you don't think it's a bit big now though?
 
 Perhaps. You could try the attached, scaled version.

Done. Looks ok to me. 

  I guess I could customize the skin to work better, but I suspect my time
  working on the wiki is better spent on structure/content than apperance.
 
 Certainly. I didn't want to push you.

Oh, no offence (push?) taken :-)

We're all busy I suspect!

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Commands for .bind files

2005-12-09 Thread chr
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Paul Smith wrote:

 On 12/9/05, K. Elo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  does anybody know if there exists a list/glossary of commands one should
  use when customising .bind files? In order to get rid of the mouse I am
  trying to customise my keyboard bindings. I do understand how to
  combine commands in complex command sequencies, but I do not have a
  reference guide describing the commands.
 
 This may help you, Kimmo:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts

Also have a look here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/LyxFunctions

The actual functions are however only listed, not actually documented.

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-09 Thread chr
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Done. Hmm... you don't think it's a bit big now though?
 
 Perhaps. You could try the attached, scaled version.

Done. Looks ok to me. 

  I guess I could customize the skin to work better, but I suspect my time
  working on the wiki is better spent on structure/content than apperance.
 
 Certainly. I didn't want to push you.

Oh, no offence (push?) taken :-)

We're all busy I suspect!

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Commands for .bind files

2005-12-09 Thread chr
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Paul Smith wrote:

 On 12/9/05, K. Elo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  does anybody know if there exists a list/glossary of commands one should
  use when customising .bind files? In order to get rid of the mouse I am
  trying to customise my keyboard bindings. I do understand how to
  combine commands in complex command sequencies, but I do not have a
  reference guide describing the commands.
 
 This may help you, Kimmo:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts

Also have a look here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/LyxFunctions

The actual functions are however only listed, not actually documented.

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-09 Thread chr
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Done. Hmm... you don't think it's a bit big now though?
> 
> Perhaps. You could try the attached, scaled version.

Done. Looks ok to me. 

> > I guess I could customize the skin to work better, but I suspect my time
> > working on the wiki is better spent on structure/content than apperance.
> 
> Certainly. I didn't want to push you.

Oh, no offence ("push"?) taken :-)

We're all busy I suspect!

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Commands for .bind files

2005-12-09 Thread chr
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Paul Smith wrote:

> On 12/9/05, K. Elo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > does anybody know if there exists a list/glossary of commands one should
> > use when customising .bind files? In order to get rid of the mouse I am
> > trying to customise my keyboard bindings. I do understand how to
> > combine commands in complex command sequencies, but I do not have a
> > reference guide describing the commands.
> 
> This may help you, Kimmo:
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts

Also have a look here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/LyxFunctions

The actual functions are however only listed, not actually documented.

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-08 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

  Should I change File manager to Upload manager or something else?
 
 Yes please rename it to Upload manager.

Better now?

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Forget Windows

2005-12-08 Thread chr
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:

 The test method is to run
 time lyx
 while clicking the mouse fast in the place where the closing button is
 going to appear.

Just a minor tip, try this:

time lyx -x 'command-sequence lyx-quit;'

and you don't have close it manually. A long time ago I (for practice) 
wrote a script that times lyx doing something, see here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/devel/pmwiki.php/DevelTools/TimeLyx

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-08 Thread chr
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
  wiki to the new wiki engine.
 
 neat. Once everything else is up and running, could you please replace the 
 ugly LyX monster in the upper left corner by a slightly less ugly one, e.g.
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/Logotype/lyx.png

Done. Hmm... you don't think it's a bit big now though?

I guess I could customize the skin to work better, but I suspect my time
working on the wiki is better spent on structure/content than apperance.
As it is, we're using the default skin of pmwiki which looks ok to me.
However, if I get specific instructions/suggestions on what to change I
can do so. (*)

/Christian

I'll test the changes on a separate installation first of course... 

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-08 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

  Should I change File manager to Upload manager or something else?
 
 Yes please rename it to Upload manager.

Better now?

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Forget Windows

2005-12-08 Thread chr
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:

 The test method is to run
 time lyx
 while clicking the mouse fast in the place where the closing button is
 going to appear.

Just a minor tip, try this:

time lyx -x 'command-sequence lyx-quit;'

and you don't have close it manually. A long time ago I (for practice) 
wrote a script that times lyx doing something, see here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/devel/pmwiki.php/DevelTools/TimeLyx

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-08 Thread chr
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
  wiki to the new wiki engine.
 
 neat. Once everything else is up and running, could you please replace the 
 ugly LyX monster in the upper left corner by a slightly less ugly one, e.g.
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/Logotype/lyx.png

Done. Hmm... you don't think it's a bit big now though?

I guess I could customize the skin to work better, but I suspect my time
working on the wiki is better spent on structure/content than apperance.
As it is, we're using the default skin of pmwiki which looks ok to me.
However, if I get specific instructions/suggestions on what to change I
can do so. (*)

/Christian

I'll test the changes on a separate installation first of course... 

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-08 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

> > Should I change "File manager" to "Upload manager" or something else?
> 
> Yes please rename it to "Upload manager".

Better now?

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Forget Windows

2005-12-08 Thread chr
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:

> The test method is to run
> time lyx
> while clicking the mouse fast in the place where the closing button is
> going to appear.

Just a minor tip, try this:

time lyx -x 'command-sequence lyx-quit;'

and you don't have close it manually. A long time ago I (for practice) 
wrote a script that times lyx doing something, see here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/devel/pmwiki.php/DevelTools/TimeLyx

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-08 Thread chr
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
> > wiki to the new wiki engine.
> 
> neat. Once everything else is up and running, could you please replace the 
> ugly LyX monster in the upper left corner by a slightly less ugly one, e.g.
> http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/Logotype/lyx.png

Done. Hmm... you don't think it's a bit big now though?

I guess I could customize the skin to work better, but I suspect my time
working on the wiki is better spent on structure/content than apperance.
As it is, we're using the default skin of pmwiki which looks ok to me.
However, if I get specific instructions/suggestions on what to change I
can do so. (*)

/Christian

I'll test the changes on a separate installation first of course... 

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44       http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Also in Note for users of Windows 98, how do I make the footnote?
  Indeed, is there a clean and elegant way to make a footnote
  spanning several paragraphs?
 
  I've enabled footnotes now, see
  http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/Footnote
  for an illustration/example.
 
 Thanks, Christian. One more request ;-)
 
 My footnote on http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre would ideally
 have the markup:
 
 blah blah blah
 : : some quote
 blah blah blah

If we continue this way you're going to want a complete mini-page in 
the footnote eventually ;-)

 However, the : : quoting markup appears to be disabled inside
 of footnotes. Could you enable it?

Seriously speaking though, you're approaching the limit of what's 
currently feasible now. I don't think this can be enabled, pmwiki isn't 
recursive enough.

It might be possible, but I suggest you try a hack instead. I.e. something
that sort of looks what you want. One such hack would be something like 
this:

[^Bla bla bla  \\\nbsp; nbsp;indented...  \\New line^]

Another way is to use 'custom markup' to introduce styling. It's possible 
to use lots of different CSS stuff (span/div) but I'm not familiar 
with it. Have a look here:

http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/WikiStyles
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/WikiStyleExamples

A third solution is to simply not use footnote markup.. If you only have 
one or two footnotes, you could simply use a normal link like this.

Bla bla bla'^[[{$Name}#note1 - 1]]^' bla bla

:Note 1 [[#anchor1]]: Bla bla bla bla

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 I also lost these uploaded files:
 
 uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/libnetpbm10.dll
 uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/pnmcrop.exe
 uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure.png uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure-small.png

These I haven't lost at least, the links are not correct, that's all:
 ls -1 uploads/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/
InstantPreviewScreenshot.png
InstantPrevScreen-small.png
libnetpbm10.dll
MTF.bib
pnmcrop.exe

so try something like:
uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/libnetpbm10.dll

Btw, in the new wiki, links should preferably written like one of these
examples:

[[uploads:/Windows/LyX/file.txt]]
[[some link text bla bla - uploads:/Windows/LyX/file.txt]]

To make a link that is shown as an image, write something like this:

[[uploads:/image.png - http://somesite.org]]

It's a good idea to use [[...]] for all links (but not strictly necessary
for a prefix such as uploads:, or for http:).

See here for how you find your links.
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/UweLinks

sincere regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 Could you please actualize the following pages:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller
 to
 http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.LyXWinInstaller
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/InstantPreview
 to
 http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/LyX.InstantPreview

Just to be clear (and so that everybody knows):

From now on we are all supposed to edit and create new pages in
the new wiki (using the new markup). The old wiki pages (i.e.
0.6.15) are just there in case some conversion didn't go properly,
and you want to check exactly what the old page looked like.

To put it another way, the old pages (0.6.15) are just supposed to be a
static backup. Unfortunately, I managed to lose (some of?) the pages you
mentioned in the transition. (Conclusion: Don't do upgrades when you're
tired in the middle of the night...)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Try something like this...
  (:include Site#styles#stylesend:)

My mistake, a typo. It should be:

(:include Site.WikiStyles#styles#stylesend:)

What is happening here is that the styles are defined on the page 
Site.WikiStyles, in between the anchors #styles and #stylesend. The idea 
is that the rest of that page should illustrate and examplify the styles.

However, I'm a bit surprised that these styles aren't already defined. But 
fixing LyX.InstantPreview, I recognize that at least the style %menu% is 
working. When I test it on this page, the styles are defined.

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/SiteWikiStyles

Is there something else I'm missing?

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  These I haven't lost at least, the links are not correct, that's all:
   ls -1 uploads/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/
  InstantPreviewScreenshot.png
  InstantPrevScreen-small.png
 
 These two are really lost.
 
 I've
 
 [[uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPreviewScreenshot-small.png - 
 uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPrevScreen.png]]
 
 in my page and get nothing. 

The names have been flipped around, try this:
[[uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPrevScreen-small.png - 
uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPreviewScreenshot.png]]


as illustrated here now:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/UweLinks

(I never removed or modified any files in uploads/, so I'm pretty sure I 
didn't cause this at least).

 BTW. how could I upload a file and wehere is the really useful upload 
 manager gone?

Oh, is it gone?  No... it's just that the link is moved to the sidebar. 
It's there rather hight up on the sidebar and says File manager.

Here's a direct link:
http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php/

Should I change File manager to Upload manager or something else?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Also in Note for users of Windows 98, how do I make the footnote?
  Indeed, is there a clean and elegant way to make a footnote
  spanning several paragraphs?
 
  I've enabled footnotes now, see
  http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/Footnote
  for an illustration/example.
 
 Thanks, Christian. One more request ;-)
 
 My footnote on http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre would ideally
 have the markup:
 
 blah blah blah
 : : some quote
 blah blah blah

If we continue this way you're going to want a complete mini-page in 
the footnote eventually ;-)

 However, the : : quoting markup appears to be disabled inside
 of footnotes. Could you enable it?

Seriously speaking though, you're approaching the limit of what's 
currently feasible now. I don't think this can be enabled, pmwiki isn't 
recursive enough.

It might be possible, but I suggest you try a hack instead. I.e. something
that sort of looks what you want. One such hack would be something like 
this:

[^Bla bla bla  \\\nbsp; nbsp;indented...  \\New line^]

Another way is to use 'custom markup' to introduce styling. It's possible 
to use lots of different CSS stuff (span/div) but I'm not familiar 
with it. Have a look here:

http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/WikiStyles
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/WikiStyleExamples

A third solution is to simply not use footnote markup.. If you only have 
one or two footnotes, you could simply use a normal link like this.

Bla bla bla'^[[{$Name}#note1 - 1]]^' bla bla

:Note 1 [[#anchor1]]: Bla bla bla bla

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 I also lost these uploaded files:
 
 uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/libnetpbm10.dll
 uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/pnmcrop.exe
 uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure.png uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure-small.png

These I haven't lost at least, the links are not correct, that's all:
 ls -1 uploads/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/
InstantPreviewScreenshot.png
InstantPrevScreen-small.png
libnetpbm10.dll
MTF.bib
pnmcrop.exe

so try something like:
uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/libnetpbm10.dll

Btw, in the new wiki, links should preferably written like one of these
examples:

[[uploads:/Windows/LyX/file.txt]]
[[some link text bla bla - uploads:/Windows/LyX/file.txt]]

To make a link that is shown as an image, write something like this:

[[uploads:/image.png - http://somesite.org]]

It's a good idea to use [[...]] for all links (but not strictly necessary
for a prefix such as uploads:, or for http:).

See here for how you find your links.
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/UweLinks

sincere regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 Could you please actualize the following pages:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller
 to
 http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.LyXWinInstaller
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/InstantPreview
 to
 http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/LyX.InstantPreview

Just to be clear (and so that everybody knows):

From now on we are all supposed to edit and create new pages in
the new wiki (using the new markup). The old wiki pages (i.e.
0.6.15) are just there in case some conversion didn't go properly,
and you want to check exactly what the old page looked like.

To put it another way, the old pages (0.6.15) are just supposed to be a
static backup. Unfortunately, I managed to lose (some of?) the pages you
mentioned in the transition. (Conclusion: Don't do upgrades when you're
tired in the middle of the night...)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Try something like this...
  (:include Site#styles#stylesend:)

My mistake, a typo. It should be:

(:include Site.WikiStyles#styles#stylesend:)

What is happening here is that the styles are defined on the page 
Site.WikiStyles, in between the anchors #styles and #stylesend. The idea 
is that the rest of that page should illustrate and examplify the styles.

However, I'm a bit surprised that these styles aren't already defined. But 
fixing LyX.InstantPreview, I recognize that at least the style %menu% is 
working. When I test it on this page, the styles are defined.

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/SiteWikiStyles

Is there something else I'm missing?

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  These I haven't lost at least, the links are not correct, that's all:
   ls -1 uploads/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/
  InstantPreviewScreenshot.png
  InstantPrevScreen-small.png
 
 These two are really lost.
 
 I've
 
 [[uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPreviewScreenshot-small.png - 
 uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPrevScreen.png]]
 
 in my page and get nothing. 

The names have been flipped around, try this:
[[uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPrevScreen-small.png - 
uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPreviewScreenshot.png]]


as illustrated here now:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/UweLinks

(I never removed or modified any files in uploads/, so I'm pretty sure I 
didn't cause this at least).

 BTW. how could I upload a file and wehere is the really useful upload 
 manager gone?

Oh, is it gone?  No... it's just that the link is moved to the sidebar. 
It's there rather hight up on the sidebar and says File manager.

Here's a direct link:
http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php/

Should I change File manager to Upload manager or something else?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Also in "Note for users of Windows 98", how do I make the footnote?
> >> Indeed, is there a clean and elegant way to make a footnote
> >> spanning several paragraphs?
> 
> > I've enabled footnotes now, see
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/Footnote
> > for an illustration/example.
> 
> Thanks, Christian. One more request ;-)
> 
> My footnote on http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre would ideally
> have the markup:
> 
> blah blah blah
> : : some quote
> blah blah blah

If we continue this way you're going to want a complete mini-page in 
the footnote eventually ;-)

> However, the ": :" quoting markup appears to be disabled inside
> of footnotes. Could you enable it?

Seriously speaking though, you're approaching the limit of what's 
currently feasible now. I don't think this can be enabled, pmwiki isn't 
"recursive" enough.

It might be possible, but I suggest you try a hack instead. I.e. something
that sort of looks what you want. One such hack would be something like 
this:

[^Bla bla bla  \\\ indented...  \\New line^]

Another way is to use 'custom markup' to introduce styling. It's possible 
to use lots of different CSS stuff (/) but I'm not familiar 
with it. Have a look here:

http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/WikiStyles
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/WikiStyleExamples

A third solution is to simply not use footnote markup.. If you only have 
one or two footnotes, you could simply use a normal link like this.

Bla bla bla'^[[{$Name}#note1 -> 1]]^' bla bla

:Note 1 [[#anchor1]]: Bla bla bla bla

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

> I also lost these uploaded files:
> 
> uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/libnetpbm10.dll
> uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/pnmcrop.exe
> uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure.png uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure-small.png

These I haven't lost at least, the links are not correct, that's all:
 ls -1 uploads/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/
InstantPreviewScreenshot.png
InstantPrevScreen-small.png
libnetpbm10.dll
MTF.bib
pnmcrop.exe

so try something like:
uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/libnetpbm10.dll

Btw, in the new wiki, links should preferably written like one of these
examples:

[[uploads:/Windows/LyX/file.txt]]
[[some link text bla bla -> uploads:/Windows/LyX/file.txt]]

To make a link that is shown as an image, write something like this:

[[uploads:/image.png -> http://somesite.org]]

It's a good idea to use [[...]] for all links (but not strictly necessary
for a prefix such as uploads:, or for http:).

See here for how you find your links.
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/UweLinks

sincere regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

> Could you please actualize the following pages:
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller
> to
> http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.LyXWinInstaller
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/InstantPreview
> to
> http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/LyX.InstantPreview

Just to be clear (and so that everybody knows):

From now on we are all supposed to edit and create new pages in
the new wiki (using the new markup). The old wiki pages (i.e.
0.6.15) are just there in case some conversion didn't go properly,
and you want to check exactly what the old page looked like.

To put it another way, the old pages (0.6.15) are just supposed to be a
static backup. Unfortunately, I managed to lose (some of?) the pages you
mentioned in the transition. (Conclusion: Don't do upgrades when you're
tired in the middle of the night...)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44       http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Try something like this...
> > (:include Site#styles#stylesend:)

My mistake, a typo. It should be:

(:include Site.WikiStyles#styles#stylesend:)

What is happening here is that the styles are defined on the page 
Site.WikiStyles, in between the anchors #styles and #stylesend. The idea 
is that the rest of that page should illustrate and examplify the styles.

However, I'm a bit surprised that these styles aren't already defined. But 
fixing LyX.InstantPreview, I recognize that at least the style %menu% is 
working. When I test it on this page, the styles are defined.

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/SiteWikiStyles

Is there something else I'm missing?

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > These I haven't lost at least, the links are not correct, that's all:
> >  ls -1 uploads/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/
> > InstantPreviewScreenshot.png
> > InstantPrevScreen-small.png
> 
> These two are really lost.
> 
> I've
> 
> [[uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPreviewScreenshot-small.png -> 
> uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPrevScreen.png]]
> 
> in my page and get nothing. 

The names have been flipped around, try this:
[[uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPrevScreen-small.png -> 
uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPreviewScreenshot.png]]


as illustrated here now:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/UweLinks

(I never removed or modified any files in uploads/, so I'm pretty sure I 
didn't cause this at least).

> BTW. how could I upload a file and wehere is the really useful upload 
> manager gone?

Oh, is it gone?  No... it's just that the link is moved to the sidebar. 
It's there rather hight up on the sidebar and says "File manager".

Here's a direct link:
http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php/

Should I change "File manager" to "Upload manager" or something else?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-06 Thread chr
Hi

This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
wiki to the new wiki engine. I've eventually realised that I'm unable to
guarantee a perfectly smooth transition, so instead I'll just plunge in
and deal with any problems as they occur and get the thing over with...

Having said that, I hope the ride won't be too bad, and I'll monitor the
lists for issuses related to the wiki, in addition to incrementally fixing
any remaining issues.

We're going from version 0.6 to 2.1, so there will be quite a few changes
but hopefully only for the better. The wiki markup has changed
substantially. However, this meant porting all the pages to the new
markup, which might have introduced errors. Anyway, the upgrade wiki
has replaced the old version and it can found in the usual place

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Welcome

whereas if you absolutely, definitely need to see what it looked like 
using the old wiki you can find it here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/LyX/Welcome

Editing of the old pages is prohibited (with a password), so please modify 
the new pages instead. The test wiki should *not* be used any more for 
changes that you actually want to keep.


The major difference in markup is that all links should from now on be 
written within square brackets, like this for instance:

[[Welcome]]

In addition, all directives are now written within (:...:), e.g.

(:include Welcome:)

The idea is that this will make things more consistent.

Another difference is that so called CamelCase (or WikiWords) are being
depreceated. If you wonder why, one reason is to avoid having every
occurence of LyX, LaTeX, BibTeX etc being changed into a link. Right now
you have to write e.g. [=LyX=] to avoid it from becoming a link. From now
on, the idea is that you should only get links when you explicitly
indicate this (by using double square brackets).

best regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-06 Thread chr
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi
  
  This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
  wiki to the new wiki engine. I've eventually realised that I'm unable to
  guarantee a perfectly smooth transition, so instead I'll just plunge in
  and deal with any problems as they occur and get the thing over with...
 
 Hi, Christian.
 
 See, for example, http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre
 what should we do with all those approve sites hyperlinks?

Hi Angus

The answer is to click on the text approve site or approve url, which
will whitelist the site. This is a way to handle spammers. Anyway, someone
has already figured this out and clicked on the link, so they are
approved. For now no password is required. If we are spammed, we'll start
using a password for approving external links.

*Note* It can sometimes be confusing, and nothing happens when you click
on eg approve site. In this case the problem is usually that link isn't
actually written on the current wiki page, but instead on some other wiki
page that is included... So if you do run into any problems, let me know
via one of the lyx lists.

regards
/Christian

PS. In case there is some wiki page with *lots* of links, there might be a 
problem approving them, because the wiki then assumes this is spam. Just 
let me know about any such occurences and I'll fix it.

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-06 Thread chr
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

 Angus Leeming wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Hi
  
  This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
  wiki to the new wiki engine. I've eventually realised that I'm unable to
  guarantee a perfectly smooth transition, so instead I'll just plunge in
  and deal with any problems as they occur and get the thing over with...
  
  Hi, Christian.
  
  See, for example, http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre
  what should we do with all those approve sites hyperlinks?
 
 Also in Note for users of Windows 98, how do I make the footnote? Indeed,
 is there a clean and elegant way to make a footnote spanning several
 paragraphs?

I've enabled footnotes now, see
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/Footnote
for an illustration/example.

/Christian

This is using the recipe called:
http://pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/MarkupExtensions
But I've only enabled teasers and footnotes so far.

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-06 Thread chr
Hi

This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
wiki to the new wiki engine. I've eventually realised that I'm unable to
guarantee a perfectly smooth transition, so instead I'll just plunge in
and deal with any problems as they occur and get the thing over with...

Having said that, I hope the ride won't be too bad, and I'll monitor the
lists for issuses related to the wiki, in addition to incrementally fixing
any remaining issues.

We're going from version 0.6 to 2.1, so there will be quite a few changes
but hopefully only for the better. The wiki markup has changed
substantially. However, this meant porting all the pages to the new
markup, which might have introduced errors. Anyway, the upgrade wiki
has replaced the old version and it can found in the usual place

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Welcome

whereas if you absolutely, definitely need to see what it looked like 
using the old wiki you can find it here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/LyX/Welcome

Editing of the old pages is prohibited (with a password), so please modify 
the new pages instead. The test wiki should *not* be used any more for 
changes that you actually want to keep.


The major difference in markup is that all links should from now on be 
written within square brackets, like this for instance:

[[Welcome]]

In addition, all directives are now written within (:...:), e.g.

(:include Welcome:)

The idea is that this will make things more consistent.

Another difference is that so called CamelCase (or WikiWords) are being
depreceated. If you wonder why, one reason is to avoid having every
occurence of LyX, LaTeX, BibTeX etc being changed into a link. Right now
you have to write e.g. [=LyX=] to avoid it from becoming a link. From now
on, the idea is that you should only get links when you explicitly
indicate this (by using double square brackets).

best regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-06 Thread chr
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi
  
  This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
  wiki to the new wiki engine. I've eventually realised that I'm unable to
  guarantee a perfectly smooth transition, so instead I'll just plunge in
  and deal with any problems as they occur and get the thing over with...
 
 Hi, Christian.
 
 See, for example, http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre
 what should we do with all those approve sites hyperlinks?

Hi Angus

The answer is to click on the text approve site or approve url, which
will whitelist the site. This is a way to handle spammers. Anyway, someone
has already figured this out and clicked on the link, so they are
approved. For now no password is required. If we are spammed, we'll start
using a password for approving external links.

*Note* It can sometimes be confusing, and nothing happens when you click
on eg approve site. In this case the problem is usually that link isn't
actually written on the current wiki page, but instead on some other wiki
page that is included... So if you do run into any problems, let me know
via one of the lyx lists.

regards
/Christian

PS. In case there is some wiki page with *lots* of links, there might be a 
problem approving them, because the wiki then assumes this is spam. Just 
let me know about any such occurences and I'll fix it.

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-06 Thread chr
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

 Angus Leeming wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Hi
  
  This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
  wiki to the new wiki engine. I've eventually realised that I'm unable to
  guarantee a perfectly smooth transition, so instead I'll just plunge in
  and deal with any problems as they occur and get the thing over with...
  
  Hi, Christian.
  
  See, for example, http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre
  what should we do with all those approve sites hyperlinks?
 
 Also in Note for users of Windows 98, how do I make the footnote? Indeed,
 is there a clean and elegant way to make a footnote spanning several
 paragraphs?

I've enabled footnotes now, see
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/Footnote
for an illustration/example.

/Christian

This is using the recipe called:
http://pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/MarkupExtensions
But I've only enabled teasers and footnotes so far.

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-06 Thread chr
Hi

This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
wiki to the new wiki engine. I've eventually realised that I'm unable to
guarantee a perfectly smooth transition, so instead I'll just plunge in
and deal with any problems as they occur and get the thing over with...

Having said that, I hope the ride won't be too bad, and I'll monitor the
lists for issuses related to the wiki, in addition to incrementally fixing
any remaining issues.

We're going from version 0.6 to 2.1, so there will be quite a few changes
but hopefully only for the better. The wiki markup has changed
substantially. However, this meant porting all the pages to the new
markup, which might have introduced errors. Anyway, the upgrade wiki
has replaced the old version and it can found in the usual place

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Welcome

whereas if you absolutely, definitely need to see what it looked like 
using the old wiki you can find it here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/LyX/Welcome

Editing of the old pages is prohibited (with a password), so please modify 
the new pages instead. The test wiki should *not* be used any more for 
changes that you actually want to keep.


The major difference in markup is that all links should from now on be 
written within square brackets, like this for instance:

[[Welcome]]

In addition, all "directives" are now written within (:...:), e.g.

(:include Welcome:)

The idea is that this will make things more consistent.

Another difference is that so called CamelCase (or WikiWords) are being
depreceated. If you wonder why, one reason is to avoid having every
occurence of LyX, LaTeX, BibTeX etc being changed into a link. Right now
you have to write e.g. [=LyX=] to avoid it from becoming a link. From now
on, the idea is that you should only get links when you explicitly
indicate this (by using double square brackets).

best regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-06 Thread chr
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> > 
> > This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
> > wiki to the new wiki engine. I've eventually realised that I'm unable to
> > guarantee a perfectly smooth transition, so instead I'll just plunge in
> > and deal with any problems as they occur and get the thing over with...
> 
> Hi, Christian.
> 
> See, for example, http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre
> what should we do with all those "approve sites" hyperlinks?

Hi Angus

The answer is to click on the text "approve site" or "approve url", which
will whitelist the site. This is a way to handle spammers. Anyway, someone
has already figured this out and clicked on the link, so they are
approved. For now no password is required. If we are spammed, we'll start
using a password for approving external links.

*Note* It can sometimes be confusing, and nothing happens when you click
on eg "approve site". In this case the problem is usually that link isn't
actually written on the current wiki page, but instead on some other wiki
page that is included... So if you do run into any problems, let me know
via one of the lyx lists.

regards
/Christian

PS. In case there is some wiki page with *lots* of links, there might be a 
problem approving them, because the wiki then assumes this is spam. Just 
let me know about any such occurences and I'll fix it.

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-06 Thread chr
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

> Angus Leeming wrote:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi
> >> 
> >> This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
> >> wiki to the new wiki engine. I've eventually realised that I'm unable to
> >> guarantee a perfectly smooth transition, so instead I'll just plunge in
> >> and deal with any problems as they occur and get the thing over with...
> > 
> > Hi, Christian.
> > 
> > See, for example, http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre
> > what should we do with all those "approve sites" hyperlinks?
> 
> Also in "Note for users of Windows 98", how do I make the footnote? Indeed,
> is there a clean and elegant way to make a footnote spanning several
> paragraphs?

I've enabled footnotes now, see
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/Footnote
for an illustration/example.

/Christian

This is using the "recipe" called:
http://pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/MarkupExtensions
But I've only enabled "teasers" and "footnotes" so far.

-- 
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Re: custom layout resources for common environments

2005-11-20 Thread chr
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

 _/ On Sun 20 Nov 2005 01:08:02 GMT, [Nusret BALCI] wrote : \_
 
  Hi everybody,
  Is there a place or does anybody know a good site for
  custom layouts which can be used with LyX? For
  example, there is no theorem, corollary, proof,
  exercise, exam question, multiple choice test
  question, etc. layouts available by default. Of course
  this is a relatively side issue as you can get what
  you want in the final typeset document, but it would
  be nice to have visual effects on the screen as you
  work with LyX :). If there are such repositories on
  the net that you are aware of, could you let me know?
  Regards,
  Nusret
 
 Hi,
 
 I suggest you look at the following set of Wiki pages:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Examples

Also check out

 http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Layouts

which is the place where user's can upload their own layout files (which 
among other things control the appearance in the LyX window).

/Christian

-- 
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Re: custom layout resources for common environments

2005-11-20 Thread chr
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

 _/ On Sun 20 Nov 2005 01:08:02 GMT, [Nusret BALCI] wrote : \_
 
  Hi everybody,
  Is there a place or does anybody know a good site for
  custom layouts which can be used with LyX? For
  example, there is no theorem, corollary, proof,
  exercise, exam question, multiple choice test
  question, etc. layouts available by default. Of course
  this is a relatively side issue as you can get what
  you want in the final typeset document, but it would
  be nice to have visual effects on the screen as you
  work with LyX :). If there are such repositories on
  the net that you are aware of, could you let me know?
  Regards,
  Nusret
 
 Hi,
 
 I suggest you look at the following set of Wiki pages:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Examples

Also check out

 http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Layouts

which is the place where user's can upload their own layout files (which 
among other things control the appearance in the LyX window).

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: custom layout resources for common environments

2005-11-20 Thread chr
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> _/ On Sun 20 Nov 2005 01:08:02 GMT, [Nusret BALCI] wrote : \_
> 
> > Hi everybody,
> > Is there a place or does anybody know a good site for
> > custom layouts which can be used with LyX? For
> > example, there is no theorem, corollary, proof,
> > exercise, exam question, multiple choice test
> > question, etc. layouts available by default. Of course
> > this is a relatively side issue as you can get what
> > you want in the final typeset document, but it would
> > be nice to have visual effects on the screen as you
> > work with LyX :). If there are such repositories on
> > the net that you are aware of, could you let me know?
> > Regards,
> > Nusret
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I suggest you look at the following set of Wiki pages:
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Examples

Also check out

> http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Layouts

which is the place where user's can upload their own layout files (which 
among other things control the appearance in the LyX window).

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX function for German hard S?

2005-11-19 Thread chr
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Nusret BALCI wrote:

 I use windows, and I suspect now there isn't a compose key functionality
 available on windows for standard keyboards (If I understand correctly
 what a compose key does).

As far as I know, there is no such thing as a compose key on windows, 
sorry. In this particular case you can however try the following:

* Hold down the key Alt (and keep it down)
* type 2 2 3 on your numeric keypad
* Release the Alt key

This should produce an ß (I can't test if for you though, I'm on Linux and 
for me AltGr-s produces ß)

cheers
/Christian

-- 
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Re: LyX function for German hard S?

2005-11-19 Thread chr
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Nusret BALCI wrote:

 I use windows, and I suspect now there isn't a compose key functionality
 available on windows for standard keyboards (If I understand correctly
 what a compose key does).

As far as I know, there is no such thing as a compose key on windows, 
sorry. In this particular case you can however try the following:

* Hold down the key Alt (and keep it down)
* type 2 2 3 on your numeric keypad
* Release the Alt key

This should produce an ß (I can't test if for you though, I'm on Linux and 
for me AltGr-s produces ß)

cheers
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: LyX function for German hard S?

2005-11-19 Thread chr
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Nusret BALCI wrote:

> I use windows, and I suspect now there isn't a compose key functionality
> available on windows for standard keyboards (If I understand correctly
> what a compose key does).

As far as I know, there is no such thing as a compose key on windows, 
sorry. In this particular case you can however try the following:

* Hold down the key Alt (and keep it down)
* type 2 2 3 on your numeric keypad
* Release the Alt key

This should produce an ß (I can't test if for you though, I'm on Linux and 
for me AltGr-s produces ß)

cheers
/Christian

-- 
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Re: Pdf utilities and fonts, an off topic iota recanted

2005-11-14 Thread chr
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, Stephen Harris wrote:

 Your LyX generation documentation looks pretty good in ps convert.

What is this LyX generation documenation that you are talking about?

/Christian

-- 
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Re: Pdf utilities and fonts, an off topic iota recanted

2005-11-14 Thread chr
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, Stephen Harris wrote:

 Your LyX generation documentation looks pretty good in ps convert.

What is this LyX generation documenation that you are talking about?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Pdf utilities and fonts, an off topic iota recanted

2005-11-14 Thread chr
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, Stephen Harris wrote:

> Your LyX generation documentation looks pretty good in ps convert.

What is this "LyX generation documenation" that you are talking about?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: #lyx on freenode?

2005-11-10 Thread chr
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
 sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
 friendly atmosphere.
 
 i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
 discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
 #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
 be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
 fruitful talking to yourself.

You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use 
IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx' 
the name of the channel on that server?

/Christian

-- 
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Re: #lyx on freenode?

2005-11-10 Thread chr
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 ok - here goes (minded for the wiki):

Thanks, you read my mind :-)

I made some minor changes (and hopefully no blunders :-) and placed it
here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/IRC

/C

 
 
 Questions, answers, and debate in a friendly atmosphere takes place on IRC
 at the #lyx channel on the Freenode network. In order to get there, you need
 a IRC client such as the excellent text based client irssi (or mIRC for
 windows).
 
 http://freenode.net/
 http://irssi.org/
 http://www.mirc.com/
 
 Next you need to connect to your local Freenode server - choose one from the
 list:
 
 http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
 
 Finally it is just a matter of connecting.
 
 $ irssi irc.debian.org http://irc.debian.org
 
 and when connection is established:
 
 /join #lyx
 
 The channel may appear very quite, but try to look in between 20.00-22.00CET.
 
 And in a quite period it is a good idea to check out the channel guidelines:
 
 http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
 
 
 
 martin
 
 
 
 
 On 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:
 
   the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
   sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
   friendly atmosphere.
  
   i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
   discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
   #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
   be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
   fruitful talking to yourself.
 
  You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use
  IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx'
  the name of the channel on that server?
 
  /Christian
 
  --
  Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
 
 
 
 

-- 
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Re: #lyx on freenode?

2005-11-10 Thread chr
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
 sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
 friendly atmosphere.
 
 i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
 discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
 #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
 be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
 fruitful talking to yourself.

You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use 
IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx' 
the name of the channel on that server?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: #lyx on freenode?

2005-11-10 Thread chr
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

 ok - here goes (minded for the wiki):

Thanks, you read my mind :-)

I made some minor changes (and hopefully no blunders :-) and placed it
here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/IRC

/C

 
 
 Questions, answers, and debate in a friendly atmosphere takes place on IRC
 at the #lyx channel on the Freenode network. In order to get there, you need
 a IRC client such as the excellent text based client irssi (or mIRC for
 windows).
 
 http://freenode.net/
 http://irssi.org/
 http://www.mirc.com/
 
 Next you need to connect to your local Freenode server - choose one from the
 list:
 
 http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
 
 Finally it is just a matter of connecting.
 
 $ irssi irc.debian.org http://irc.debian.org
 
 and when connection is established:
 
 /join #lyx
 
 The channel may appear very quite, but try to look in between 20.00-22.00CET.
 
 And in a quite period it is a good idea to check out the channel guidelines:
 
 http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
 
 
 
 martin
 
 
 
 
 On 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:
 
   the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
   sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
   friendly atmosphere.
  
   i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
   discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
   #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
   be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
   fruitful talking to yourself.
 
  You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use
  IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx'
  the name of the channel on that server?
 
  /Christian
 
  --
  Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
 
 
 
 

-- 
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Re: #lyx on freenode?

2005-11-10 Thread chr
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

> the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
> sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
> friendly atmosphere.
> 
> i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
> discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
> #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
> be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
> fruitful talking to yourself.

You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use 
IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx' 
the name of the "channel" on that server?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: #lyx on freenode?

2005-11-10 Thread chr
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

> ok - here goes (minded for the wiki):

Thanks, you read my mind :-)

I made some minor changes (and hopefully no blunders :-) and placed it
here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/IRC

/C

> 
> 
> Questions, answers, and debate in a friendly atmosphere takes place on IRC
> at the #lyx channel on the Freenode network. In order to get there, you need
> a IRC client such as the excellent text based client irssi (or mIRC for
> windows).
> 
> http://freenode.net/
> http://irssi.org/
> http://www.mirc.com/
> 
> Next you need to connect to your local Freenode server - choose one from the
> list:
> 
> http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
> 
> Finally it is just a matter of connecting.
> 
> $ irssi irc.debian.org <http://irc.debian.org>
> 
> and when connection is established:
> 
> /join #lyx
> 
> The channel may appear very quite, but try to look in between 20.00-22.00CET.
> 
> And in a quite period it is a good idea to check out the channel guidelines:
> 
> http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
> 
> 
> 
> martin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:
> >
> > > the lyx mailing list is busy as always, and it is delightful to see all
> > > sorts of questions (also off topic ones) are answered and debated in a
> > > friendly atmosphere.
> > >
> > > i was wondering if some of the lengthy threads would benefit from being
> > > discussed on IRC - and i am wondering why there is only 7 nicks on
> > > #lyx/freenode. of cause an IRC channel needs critical mass in order to
> > > be a success - that is, a minimum of online people because it is not
> > > fruitful talking to yourself.
> >
> > You don't happen to have an URI or something for this thing? (I don't use
> > IRC very often... is 'freenode' the name of some kind of server and '#lyx'
> > the name of the "channel" on that server?
> >
> > /Christian
> >
> > --
> > Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
> >
> >
> >
> 

-- 
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Re: Write debug info to file

2005-11-09 Thread chr
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Georg Baum wrote:

 Abel Fernández Fernández wrote:
 
  Is there any way of write debug info in a text file?
  I do this -- lyx -dbg latex
  for show debug info, but this write into console.
 
 You can redirect the standard error output to a file on unix systems:
 
 lyx -dbg latex 2err.log

I'm guessing this assumes bash or sh as the shell? IIRC, it's slightly 
different in tcsh.

 On windows it looks maybe different.

I'm not sure, but I don't think it's possible to redirect stderr 
separately on windows.

/Christian

-- 
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Re: Write debug info to file

2005-11-09 Thread chr
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Georg Baum wrote:

 Abel Fernández Fernández wrote:
 
  Is there any way of write debug info in a text file?
  I do this -- lyx -dbg latex
  for show debug info, but this write into console.
 
 You can redirect the standard error output to a file on unix systems:
 
 lyx -dbg latex 2err.log

I'm guessing this assumes bash or sh as the shell? IIRC, it's slightly 
different in tcsh.

 On windows it looks maybe different.

I'm not sure, but I don't think it's possible to redirect stderr 
separately on windows.

/Christian

-- 
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Re: Write debug info to file

2005-11-09 Thread chr
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Georg Baum wrote:

> Abel Fernández Fernández wrote:
> 
> > Is there any way of write debug info in a text file?
> > I do this --> lyx -dbg latex
> > for show debug info, but this write into console.
> 
> You can redirect the standard error output to a file on unix systems:
> 
> lyx -dbg latex 2>err.log

I'm guessing this assumes bash or sh as the shell? IIRC, it's slightly 
different in tcsh.

> On windows it looks maybe different.

I'm not sure, but I don't think it's possible to redirect stderr 
separately on windows.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Is this possible with lyx?

2005-11-02 Thread chr
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Paul Smith wrote:

 I would add two different entries to the Wiki: one to answer the question
 
 1. How can I disallow LaTeX to linebreak an inlined math formula?;

Now added as 
http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/PreventingLinebreakInInlineFormula

as for the boxed thing, I'm leaving it since it seemed to get kind of 
complicated.

/Christian

-- 
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Re: [need help with wiki] Re: Excel data sheets

2005-11-02 Thread chr
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005, Sven Schreiber wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Tips/ so I've moved your text there.
 
  http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/CopyTablesFromSpreadsheets
 
 In addition, it's a good idea to add a link to the special page in each 
 group that is used to list/describe pages in the group. Here, the page is 
 simply
 
  http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/PageList
 
 so I've added a link to your page from that page.

[snip]

 It's good you're explaining this, because somehow I'm a bit tired of
 learning yet another markup syntax, especially through manuals and
 tutorials. 

I can understand that... would a reference card of the markup on a 
single page be better?

However, in general I don't think the markup is the big problem, but
rather knowing *where* to add the information. And knowing how to
integrate the page with all the other pages, so that people can find it
relatively easy.

As for the markup... I think most writers could get by knowing only a 
subset of what is shown below the edit form, i.e. this text:
http://wiki.lyx.org/PmWiki/EditQuickReference

In fact, I'd say these are the most common things you need to know:

!! A second level heading

!!! A third level heading

An ''emphasized'' word

* A list item
* Another list item
** A second level list item

and of course how to create a link to another page

{{LyX/Examples}} - a link to the page LyX/Examples

 Possibly this also deters other people from adding to the wiki.

Quit likely unfortunately.

 Is there any way to use plain html and get that converted so that the
 wiki engine accepts it?

I'm afraid not... there are actually good reasons for why HTML isn't 
allowed, but I can't remember them right now.

/Christian

-- 
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Re: Is this possible with lyx?

2005-11-02 Thread chr
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Paul Smith wrote:

 I would add two different entries to the Wiki: one to answer the question
 
 1. How can I disallow LaTeX to linebreak an inlined math formula?;

Now added as 
http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/PreventingLinebreakInInlineFormula

as for the boxed thing, I'm leaving it since it seemed to get kind of 
complicated.

/Christian

-- 
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Re: [need help with wiki] Re: Excel data sheets

2005-11-02 Thread chr
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005, Sven Schreiber wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Tips/ so I've moved your text there.
 
  http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/CopyTablesFromSpreadsheets
 
 In addition, it's a good idea to add a link to the special page in each 
 group that is used to list/describe pages in the group. Here, the page is 
 simply
 
  http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/PageList
 
 so I've added a link to your page from that page.

[snip]

 It's good you're explaining this, because somehow I'm a bit tired of
 learning yet another markup syntax, especially through manuals and
 tutorials. 

I can understand that... would a reference card of the markup on a 
single page be better?

However, in general I don't think the markup is the big problem, but
rather knowing *where* to add the information. And knowing how to
integrate the page with all the other pages, so that people can find it
relatively easy.

As for the markup... I think most writers could get by knowing only a 
subset of what is shown below the edit form, i.e. this text:
http://wiki.lyx.org/PmWiki/EditQuickReference

In fact, I'd say these are the most common things you need to know:

!! A second level heading

!!! A third level heading

An ''emphasized'' word

* A list item
* Another list item
** A second level list item

and of course how to create a link to another page

{{LyX/Examples}} - a link to the page LyX/Examples

 Possibly this also deters other people from adding to the wiki.

Quit likely unfortunately.

 Is there any way to use plain html and get that converted so that the
 wiki engine accepts it?

I'm afraid not... there are actually good reasons for why HTML isn't 
allowed, but I can't remember them right now.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Is this possible with lyx?

2005-11-02 Thread chr
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Paul Smith wrote:

> I would add two different entries to the Wiki: one to answer the question
> 
> 1. How can I disallow LaTeX to linebreak an inlined math formula?;

Now added as 
http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/PreventingLinebreakInInlineFormula

as for the boxed thing, I'm leaving it since it seemed to get kind of 
complicated.

/Christian

-- 
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Re: [need help with wiki] Re: Excel data sheets

2005-11-02 Thread chr
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005, Sven Schreiber wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >Tips/ so I've moved your text there.
> >
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/CopyTablesFromSpreadsheets
> >
> >In addition, it's a good idea to add a link to the special page in each 
> >group that is used to list/describe pages in the group. Here, the page is 
> >simply
> >
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/PageList
> >
> >so I've added a link to your page from that page.

[snip]

> It's good you're explaining this, because somehow I'm a bit tired of
> learning yet another markup syntax, especially through manuals and
> tutorials. 

I can understand that... would a "reference card" of the markup on a 
single page be better?

However, in general I don't think the markup is the big problem, but
rather knowing *where* to add the information. And knowing how to
"integrate" the page with all the other pages, so that people can find it
relatively easy.

As for the markup... I think most writers could get by knowing only a 
subset of what is shown below the edit form, i.e. this text:
http://wiki.lyx.org/PmWiki/EditQuickReference

In fact, I'd say these are the most common things you need to know:

!! A second level heading

!!! A third level heading

An ''emphasized'' word

* A list item
* Another list item
** A second level list item

and of course how to create a link to another page

{{LyX/Examples}} - a link to the page LyX/Examples

> Possibly this also deters other people from adding to the wiki.

Quit likely unfortunately.

> Is there any way to use plain html and get that converted so that the
> wiki engine accepts it?

I'm afraid not... there are actually good reasons for why HTML isn't 
allowed, but I can't remember them right now.

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Installing a layout

2005-10-30 Thread chr
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005, Brighten Godfrey wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am trying to use the layout files from the below web page (I've been
 looking for a layout like this for years!):
 
 http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~hartke/computer/lyx/lyx.php
 
 I put them in the `layouts' directory in the LyX configuration directory
 (~/.lyx on Unix, ~/Library/Application Support/LyX/ on Mac).  I ran
 `reconfigure' in LyX and restarted the app.  Now in the Document menu, the
 new layout shows up as
 
 Unavailable: articlethm

The layout is sort of only used by LyX to tell how stuff is displayed on
the screen. What you really need is the document class articlethm.cls/sty
exactly where/how you should install it depends on your LaTeX system.

This link explains some of these concepts
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Concepts

/Christian

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