Outline, Navigate, Master / Child document weirdness
Hello, I am having strange and irreproducible results with Master and Child documents. I wanted to check here first before submitting it as a bug. I work mostly on large document in the form of a single master document with many included files containing chapters. With the master document open, the outline windows (in table of contents (TOC) view) nicely shows all the chapters in the entire document. For some of my projects, the entire TOC shows up even if I only open up a child document, and I can call up the master document from the Navigate menu. For other projects (perhaps more recent ones) the TOC will only show up for the current chapter, and the Navigate menu has no link to for the master. In all my real document and a few test cases I do define the master document in the document settings for the child. Has anybody seen the same behavior? Perhaps I am missing some setting that causes this to happen. Thanks. Maarten.
Fwd: Outline, Navigate, Master / Child document weirdness
I set up a very simple test document with three chapters, each included in one master, each referring back to the master. All four documents (1 master, and 3 children) are all in the same directory. Question is, is opening only one child even supposed to show the whole table of contents for all the documents? I have no idea what I did to my older document which has this nice behavior. Is it appropriate to attach screenshots in these e-mails, or files? Thanks. Maarten. On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:40 PM, rgheck wrote: On 01/20/2010 05:21 AM, Maarten Rutgers wrote: Hello, I am having strange and irreproducible results with Master and Child documents. I wanted to check here first before submitting it as a bug. I work mostly on large document in the form of a single master document with many included files containing chapters. With the master document open, the outline windows (in table of contents (TOC) view) nicely shows all the chapters in the entire document. For some of my projects, the entire TOC shows up even if I only open up a child document, and I can call up the master document from the Navigate menu. For other projects (perhaps more recent ones) the TOC will only show up for the current chapter, and the Navigate menu has no link to for the master. In all my real document and a few test cases I do define the master document in the document settings for the child. Are there specific documents where this happens? Are you sure the master is defined correctly? E.g., if you define it and then move the file, LyX might not be able to find the master document. rh
Re: Outline, Navigate, Master / Child document weirdness
Yes, all children are included in the master and all children point back to the master in Docment. So the fact that I cannot see all the children when I only open one child (but not the master) is irregular. I have this issue with LyX 1.6.5 on both mac and PC. Again, I do have files on my computer which are older (i.e. started with older versions of LyX), which do show the full outline if only one child document is open Puzzled... On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:10 PM, rgheck wrote: On 01/20/2010 10:54 AM, maarten rutgers wrote: I set up a very simple test document with three chapters, each included in one master, each referring back to the master. All four documents (1 master, and 3 children) are all in the same directory. Question is, is opening only one child even supposed to show the whole table of contents for all the documents? I have no idea what I did to my older document which has this nice behavior. Yes. The master and its other children should be opened in the background, and you should see them all under View. You should also see the outline for the whole document. Are all the children actually included in the master? If not, you will not see them, because the master doesn't know about them. rh
Re: Outline, Navigate, Master / Child document weirdness
Ok, I finally ran a reconfigure on my LyX and the problem went away. Now having just one child document open without the master being open will again bring up all the relevant child documents. I have not reconfigured for along time. I am surprised though that the problem manifested itself on two computers at the same time. So, not much of a solution since I have no idea how to reproduce this problem again. Just keep in mind that when your outline starts doing funny things, reconfigure your LyX Mac: Lyx Reconfigure PC: Tools Reconfigure On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:10 PM, rgheck wrote: On 01/20/2010 10:54 AM, maarten rutgers wrote: I set up a very simple test document with three chapters, each included in one master, each referring back to the master. All four documents (1 master, and 3 children) are all in the same directory. Question is, is opening only one child even supposed to show the whole table of contents for all the documents? I have no idea what I did to my older document which has this nice behavior. Yes. The master and its other children should be opened in the background, and you should see them all under View. You should also see the outline for the whole document. Are all the children actually included in the master? If not, you will not see them, because the master doesn't know about them. rh
Outline, Navigate, Master / Child document weirdness
Hello, I am having strange and irreproducible results with Master and Child documents. I wanted to check here first before submitting it as a bug. I work mostly on large document in the form of a single master document with many included files containing chapters. With the master document open, the outline windows (in table of contents (TOC) view) nicely shows all the chapters in the entire document. For some of my projects, the entire TOC shows up even if I only open up a child document, and I can call up the master document from the Navigate menu. For other projects (perhaps more recent ones) the TOC will only show up for the current chapter, and the Navigate menu has no link to for the master. In all my real document and a few test cases I do define the master document in the document settings for the child. Has anybody seen the same behavior? Perhaps I am missing some setting that causes this to happen. Thanks. Maarten.
Fwd: Outline, Navigate, Master / Child document weirdness
I set up a very simple test document with three chapters, each included in one master, each referring back to the master. All four documents (1 master, and 3 children) are all in the same directory. Question is, is opening only one child even supposed to show the whole table of contents for all the documents? I have no idea what I did to my older document which has this nice behavior. Is it appropriate to attach screenshots in these e-mails, or files? Thanks. Maarten. On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:40 PM, rgheck wrote: On 01/20/2010 05:21 AM, Maarten Rutgers wrote: Hello, I am having strange and irreproducible results with Master and Child documents. I wanted to check here first before submitting it as a bug. I work mostly on large document in the form of a single master document with many included files containing chapters. With the master document open, the outline windows (in table of contents (TOC) view) nicely shows all the chapters in the entire document. For some of my projects, the entire TOC shows up even if I only open up a child document, and I can call up the master document from the Navigate menu. For other projects (perhaps more recent ones) the TOC will only show up for the current chapter, and the Navigate menu has no link to for the master. In all my real document and a few test cases I do define the master document in the document settings for the child. Are there specific documents where this happens? Are you sure the master is defined correctly? E.g., if you define it and then move the file, LyX might not be able to find the master document. rh
Re: Outline, Navigate, Master / Child document weirdness
Yes, all children are included in the master and all children point back to the master in Docment. So the fact that I cannot see all the children when I only open one child (but not the master) is irregular. I have this issue with LyX 1.6.5 on both mac and PC. Again, I do have files on my computer which are older (i.e. started with older versions of LyX), which do show the full outline if only one child document is open Puzzled... On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:10 PM, rgheck wrote: On 01/20/2010 10:54 AM, maarten rutgers wrote: I set up a very simple test document with three chapters, each included in one master, each referring back to the master. All four documents (1 master, and 3 children) are all in the same directory. Question is, is opening only one child even supposed to show the whole table of contents for all the documents? I have no idea what I did to my older document which has this nice behavior. Yes. The master and its other children should be opened in the background, and you should see them all under View. You should also see the outline for the whole document. Are all the children actually included in the master? If not, you will not see them, because the master doesn't know about them. rh
Re: Outline, Navigate, Master / Child document weirdness
Ok, I finally ran a reconfigure on my LyX and the problem went away. Now having just one child document open without the master being open will again bring up all the relevant child documents. I have not reconfigured for along time. I am surprised though that the problem manifested itself on two computers at the same time. So, not much of a solution since I have no idea how to reproduce this problem again. Just keep in mind that when your outline starts doing funny things, reconfigure your LyX Mac: Lyx Reconfigure PC: Tools Reconfigure On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:10 PM, rgheck wrote: On 01/20/2010 10:54 AM, maarten rutgers wrote: I set up a very simple test document with three chapters, each included in one master, each referring back to the master. All four documents (1 master, and 3 children) are all in the same directory. Question is, is opening only one child even supposed to show the whole table of contents for all the documents? I have no idea what I did to my older document which has this nice behavior. Yes. The master and its other children should be opened in the background, and you should see them all under View. You should also see the outline for the whole document. Are all the children actually included in the master? If not, you will not see them, because the master doesn't know about them. rh
Outline, Navigate, Master / Child document weirdness
Hello, I am having strange and irreproducible results with Master and Child documents. I wanted to check here first before submitting it as a bug. I work mostly on large document in the form of a single master document with many included files containing chapters. With the master document open, the outline windows (in table of contents (TOC) view) nicely shows all the chapters in the entire document. For some of my projects, the entire TOC shows up even if I only open up a child document, and I can call up the master document from the Navigate menu. For other projects (perhaps more recent ones) the TOC will only show up for the current chapter, and the Navigate menu has no link to for the master. In all my real document and a few test cases I do define the master document in the document settings for the child. Has anybody seen the same behavior? Perhaps I am missing some setting that causes this to happen. Thanks. Maarten.
Fwd: Outline, Navigate, Master / Child document weirdness
I set up a very simple test document with three chapters, each included in one master, each referring back to the master. All four documents (1 master, and 3 children) are all in the same directory. Question is, is opening only one child even supposed to show the whole table of contents for all the documents? I have no idea what I did to my older document which has this nice behavior. Is it appropriate to attach screenshots in these e-mails, or files? Thanks. Maarten. On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:40 PM, rgheck wrote: > On 01/20/2010 05:21 AM, Maarten Rutgers wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I am having strange and irreproducible results >> with Master and Child documents. I wanted to >> check here first before submitting it as a bug. >> >> I work mostly on large document in the form >> of a single master document with many >> included files containing chapters. With the >> master document open, the outline windows >> (in table of contents (TOC) view) nicely shows >> all the chapters in the entire document. >> >> For some of my projects, the entire TOC shows >> up even if I only open up a child document, >> and I can call up the master document from >> the Navigate menu. >> >> For other projects (perhaps more recent ones) >> the TOC will only show up for the current chapter, >> and the Navigate menu has no link to for the master. >> >> In all my real document and a few test cases >> I do define the master document in the document >> settings for the child. >> >> > Are there specific documents where this happens? Are you sure the master is > defined correctly? E.g., if you define it and then move the file, LyX might > not be able to find the master document. > > rh >
Re: Outline, Navigate, Master / Child document weirdness
Yes, all children are included in the master and all children point back to the master in Docment. So the fact that I cannot see all the children when I only open one child (but not the master) is irregular. I have this issue with LyX 1.6.5 on both mac and PC. Again, I do have files on my computer which are older (i.e. started with older versions of LyX), which do show the full outline if only one child document is open Puzzled... On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:10 PM, rgheck wrote: > On 01/20/2010 10:54 AM, maarten rutgers wrote: >> I set up a very simple test document with three chapters, each included in >> one master, each referring back to the master. All four documents (1 >> master, and 3 children) are all in the same directory. Question is, is >> opening only one child even supposed to show the whole table of contents for >> all the documents? I have no idea what I did to my older document which has >> this nice behavior. >> >> > Yes. The master and its other children should be opened in the background, > and you should see them all under View. You should also see the outline for > the whole document. > > Are all the children actually included in the master? If not, you will not > see them, because the master doesn't know about them. > > rh >
Re: Outline, Navigate, Master / Child document weirdness
Ok, I finally ran a reconfigure on my LyX and the problem went away. Now having just one child document open without the master being open will again bring up all the relevant child documents. I have not reconfigured for along time. I am surprised though that the problem manifested itself on two computers at the same time. So, not much of a solution since I have no idea how to reproduce this problem again. Just keep in mind that when your outline starts doing funny things, reconfigure your LyX Mac: Lyx > Reconfigure PC: Tools > Reconfigure On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:10 PM, rgheck wrote: > On 01/20/2010 10:54 AM, maarten rutgers wrote: >> I set up a very simple test document with three chapters, each included in >> one master, each referring back to the master. All four documents (1 >> master, and 3 children) are all in the same directory. Question is, is >> opening only one child even supposed to show the whole table of contents for >> all the documents? I have no idea what I did to my older document which has >> this nice behavior. >> >> > Yes. The master and its other children should be opened in the background, > and you should see them all under View. You should also see the outline for > the whole document. > > Are all the children actually included in the master? If not, you will not > see them, because the master doesn't know about them. > > rh >
