Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[Guenter Milde]

On 2011-12-07, stefano franchi wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

 Chapter {Chapter Number} {newline}
 Chapter Title


 That is fine when memoir is used to typeset books, but it's very
 annoying when used for articles (which it's perfectly capable of
 doing).

 So I want to change the layout accordingly. But I can't figure out
 where, in the standard definition of the Chapter Style from
 stdsections.inc, is the {newline} inserted:

 Unfortunately, this is hardcoded into LyX and not layout customizable.
 No doubt it should be. Please feel free to file an enhancement bug.

 Of course, the appearance in the PDF can be changed


 Ah, that's why I could not find it in the docs. I'll file an
 enhancement bug then.

 I can't be the only Lyx user who is discovering how convenient it is
 to work with the memoir class for both books and articles.


How about a Memoir (article) or Article (memoir) layout that does not
use a chapter style but starts the sectioning with Section (like
every other article class)?

(If required by the memoir class, it is still possible that the 
Section style uses LatexName chapter, Subsection uses LatexName
section and so forth.)

Günter

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[stefano franchi]

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:
 On 2011-12-07, stefano franchi wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

 How about a Memoir (article) or Article (memoir) layout that does not
 use a chapter style but starts the sectioning with Section (like
 every other article class)?

 (If required by the memoir class, it is still possible that the
 Section style uses LatexName chapter, Subsection uses LatexName
 section and so forth.)


Ah, I hadn't thought of that. I would still prefer to have a single
layout file for both books and articles, but tricking Lyx by switching
section with chapter (and subsection with section, etc) it's a great
idea. At least for the immediate future.


Thanks,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[Guenter Milde]

On 2011-12-08, stefano franchi wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:
 On 2011-12-07, stefano franchi wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

 How about a Memoir (article) or Article (memoir) layout that does not
 use a chapter style but starts the sectioning with Section (like
 every other article class)?

 (If required by the memoir class, it is still possible that the
 Section style uses LatexName chapter, Subsection uses LatexName
 section and so forth.)

 Ah, I hadn't thought of that. I would still prefer to have a single
 layout file for both books and articles, 

Of course, you can simply not use the chapter style in a memoir document
that shall be an article...

 but tricking Lyx by switching section with chapter (and subsection with
 section, etc) it's a great idea. At least for the immediate future.

The big advantage of adding an article (Memoir) is that you can easily
convert between documents of the ~20 article classes.

OTOH, with a memoir (article) class that uses chapters, you will get 
invalid Style for every chapter heading (because chapters are not
supported in normal article classes).

(The advantage of the additional chapter section level on top is, that it
allows double-use of a document as stand-alone article + book|record chapter.)

Günter

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[Guenter Milde]

On 2011-12-07, stefano franchi wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

 Chapter {Chapter Number} {newline}
 Chapter Title


 That is fine when memoir is used to typeset books, but it's very
 annoying when used for articles (which it's perfectly capable of
 doing).

 So I want to change the layout accordingly. But I can't figure out
 where, in the standard definition of the Chapter Style from
 stdsections.inc, is the {newline} inserted:

 Unfortunately, this is hardcoded into LyX and not layout customizable.
 No doubt it should be. Please feel free to file an enhancement bug.

 Of course, the appearance in the PDF can be changed


 Ah, that's why I could not find it in the docs. I'll file an
 enhancement bug then.

 I can't be the only Lyx user who is discovering how convenient it is
 to work with the memoir class for both books and articles.


How about a Memoir (article) or Article (memoir) layout that does not
use a chapter style but starts the sectioning with Section (like
every other article class)?

(If required by the memoir class, it is still possible that the 
Section style uses LatexName chapter, Subsection uses LatexName
section and so forth.)

Günter

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[stefano franchi]

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:
 On 2011-12-07, stefano franchi wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

 How about a Memoir (article) or Article (memoir) layout that does not
 use a chapter style but starts the sectioning with Section (like
 every other article class)?

 (If required by the memoir class, it is still possible that the
 Section style uses LatexName chapter, Subsection uses LatexName
 section and so forth.)


Ah, I hadn't thought of that. I would still prefer to have a single
layout file for both books and articles, but tricking Lyx by switching
section with chapter (and subsection with section, etc) it's a great
idea. At least for the immediate future.


Thanks,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[Guenter Milde]

On 2011-12-08, stefano franchi wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net wrote:
 On 2011-12-07, stefano franchi wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

 How about a Memoir (article) or Article (memoir) layout that does not
 use a chapter style but starts the sectioning with Section (like
 every other article class)?

 (If required by the memoir class, it is still possible that the
 Section style uses LatexName chapter, Subsection uses LatexName
 section and so forth.)

 Ah, I hadn't thought of that. I would still prefer to have a single
 layout file for both books and articles, 

Of course, you can simply not use the chapter style in a memoir document
that shall be an article...

 but tricking Lyx by switching section with chapter (and subsection with
 section, etc) it's a great idea. At least for the immediate future.

The big advantage of adding an article (Memoir) is that you can easily
convert between documents of the ~20 article classes.

OTOH, with a memoir (article) class that uses chapters, you will get 
invalid Style for every chapter heading (because chapters are not
supported in normal article classes).

(The advantage of the additional chapter section level on top is, that it
allows double-use of a document as stand-alone article + book|record chapter.)

Günter

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[Guenter Milde]

On 2011-12-07, stefano franchi wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:
>> On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
>>> The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

>>> "Chapter" {Chapter Number} {newline}
>>> Chapter Title


>>> That is fine when memoir is used to typeset books, but it's very
>>> annoying when used for articles (which it's perfectly capable of
>>> doing).

>>> So I want to change the layout accordingly. But I can't figure out
>>> where, in the standard definition of the Chapter Style from
>>> stdsections.inc, is the {newline} inserted:

>> Unfortunately, this is hardcoded into LyX and not layout customizable.
>> No doubt it should be. Please feel free to file an enhancement bug.

>> Of course, the appearance in the PDF can be changed


> Ah, that's why I could not find it in the docs. I'll file an
> enhancement bug then.

> I can't be the only Lyx user who is discovering how convenient it is
> to work with the memoir class for both books and articles.


How about a "Memoir (article)" or "Article (memoir)" layout that does not
use a "chapter" style but starts the sectioning with "Section" (like
every other article class)?

(If required by the memoir class, it is still possible that the 
"Section" style uses "LatexName chapter", "Subsection" uses "LatexName
section" and so forth.)

Günter

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[stefano franchi]

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Guenter Milde  wrote:
> On 2011-12-07, stefano franchi wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:
>>> On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:
>
> How about a "Memoir (article)" or "Article (memoir)" layout that does not
> use a "chapter" style but starts the sectioning with "Section" (like
> every other article class)?
>
> (If required by the memoir class, it is still possible that the
> "Section" style uses "LatexName chapter", "Subsection" uses "LatexName
> section" and so forth.)
>

Ah, I hadn't thought of that. I would still prefer to have a single
layout file for both books and articles, but tricking Lyx by switching
section with chapter (and subsection with section, etc) it's a great
idea. At least for the immediate future.


Thanks,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[Guenter Milde]

On 2011-12-08, stefano franchi wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Guenter Milde  wrote:
>> On 2011-12-07, stefano franchi wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:
 On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
> The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

>> How about a "Memoir (article)" or "Article (memoir)" layout that does not
>> use a "chapter" style but starts the sectioning with "Section" (like
>> every other article class)?

>> (If required by the memoir class, it is still possible that the
>> "Section" style uses "LatexName chapter", "Subsection" uses "LatexName
>> section" and so forth.)

> Ah, I hadn't thought of that. I would still prefer to have a single
> layout file for both books and articles, 

Of course, you can simply not use the chapter style in a memoir document
that shall be an article...

> but tricking Lyx by switching section with chapter (and subsection with
> section, etc) it's a great idea. At least for the immediate future.

The big advantage of adding an "article (Memoir) is that you can easily
convert between documents of the ~20 "article" classes.

OTOH, with a "memoir (article)" class that uses chapters, you will get 
"invalid Style" for every chapter heading (because chapters are not
supported in "normal" article classes).

(The advantage of the additional chapter section level on top is, that it
allows double-use of a document as stand-alone article + book|record chapter.)

Günter

Changing the layout for chapter

[stefano franchi]

The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

Chapter {Chapter Number} {newline}
Chapter Title


That is fine when memoir is used to typeset books, but it's very
annoying when used for articles (which it's perfectly capable of
doing).

So I want to change the layout accordingly. But I can't figure out
where, in the standard definition of the Chapter Style from
stdsections.inc, is the {newline} inserted:


Style Chapter
MarginStatic
Category  Section
LabelString   Chapter \thechapter
LabelStringAppendix   Appendix \thechapter
LabelType Counter
LabelCounter  chapter
TocLevel  0
LatexType Command
LatexName chapter
NeedProtect   1
NextNoIndent  1
ParSkip   0.4
TopSep4
BottomSep 0.8
ParSep0.8
Align Block
OptionalArgs  1
Font
  Series  Bold
  SizeHuge
EndFont
HTMLTag   h1
End

I thought removing the LabelString line would be enough. But it isn't:
it just removes the Chapter Label

Help is appreciated. Pointers to the proper  customization manual
section are appreciated too. I could not find the information there.



Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[Richard Heck]

On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

 Chapter {Chapter Number} {newline}
 Chapter Title


 That is fine when memoir is used to typeset books, but it's very
 annoying when used for articles (which it's perfectly capable of
 doing).

 So I want to change the layout accordingly. But I can't figure out
 where, in the standard definition of the Chapter Style from
 stdsections.inc, is the {newline} inserted:

Unfortunately, this is hardcoded into LyX and not layout customizable.
No doubt it should be. Please feel free to file an enhancement bug.

Of course, the appearance in the PDF can be changed

Richard

 Style Chapter
   MarginStatic
   Category  Section
   LabelString   Chapter \thechapter
   LabelStringAppendix   Appendix \thechapter
   LabelType Counter
   LabelCounter  chapter
   TocLevel  0
   LatexType Command
   LatexName chapter
   NeedProtect   1
   NextNoIndent  1
   ParSkip   0.4
   TopSep4
   BottomSep 0.8
   ParSep0.8
   Align Block
   OptionalArgs  1
   Font
 Series  Bold
 SizeHuge
   EndFont
   HTMLTag   h1
 End

 I thought removing the LabelString line would be enough. But it isn't:
 it just removes the Chapter Label

 Help is appreciated. Pointers to the proper  customization manual
 section are appreciated too. I could not find the information there.



 Cheers,

 Stefano

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[stefano franchi]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

 Chapter {Chapter Number} {newline}
 Chapter Title


 That is fine when memoir is used to typeset books, but it's very
 annoying when used for articles (which it's perfectly capable of
 doing).

 So I want to change the layout accordingly. But I can't figure out
 where, in the standard definition of the Chapter Style from
 stdsections.inc, is the {newline} inserted:

 Unfortunately, this is hardcoded into LyX and not layout customizable.
 No doubt it should be. Please feel free to file an enhancement bug.

 Of course, the appearance in the PDF can be changed


Ah, that's why I could not find it in the docs. I'll file an
enhancement bug then.

I can't be the only Lyx user who is discovering how convenient it is
to work with the memoir class for both books and articles.


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

Changing the layout for chapter

[stefano franchi]

The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

Chapter {Chapter Number} {newline}
Chapter Title


That is fine when memoir is used to typeset books, but it's very
annoying when used for articles (which it's perfectly capable of
doing).

So I want to change the layout accordingly. But I can't figure out
where, in the standard definition of the Chapter Style from
stdsections.inc, is the {newline} inserted:


Style Chapter
MarginStatic
Category  Section
LabelString   Chapter \thechapter
LabelStringAppendix   Appendix \thechapter
LabelType Counter
LabelCounter  chapter
TocLevel  0
LatexType Command
LatexName chapter
NeedProtect   1
NextNoIndent  1
ParSkip   0.4
TopSep4
BottomSep 0.8
ParSep0.8
Align Block
OptionalArgs  1
Font
  Series  Bold
  SizeHuge
EndFont
HTMLTag   h1
End

I thought removing the LabelString line would be enough. But it isn't:
it just removes the Chapter Label

Help is appreciated. Pointers to the proper  customization manual
section are appreciated too. I could not find the information there.



Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[Richard Heck]

On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

 Chapter {Chapter Number} {newline}
 Chapter Title


 That is fine when memoir is used to typeset books, but it's very
 annoying when used for articles (which it's perfectly capable of
 doing).

 So I want to change the layout accordingly. But I can't figure out
 where, in the standard definition of the Chapter Style from
 stdsections.inc, is the {newline} inserted:

Unfortunately, this is hardcoded into LyX and not layout customizable.
No doubt it should be. Please feel free to file an enhancement bug.

Of course, the appearance in the PDF can be changed

Richard

 Style Chapter
   MarginStatic
   Category  Section
   LabelString   Chapter \thechapter
   LabelStringAppendix   Appendix \thechapter
   LabelType Counter
   LabelCounter  chapter
   TocLevel  0
   LatexType Command
   LatexName chapter
   NeedProtect   1
   NextNoIndent  1
   ParSkip   0.4
   TopSep4
   BottomSep 0.8
   ParSep0.8
   Align Block
   OptionalArgs  1
   Font
 Series  Bold
 SizeHuge
   EndFont
   HTMLTag   h1
 End

 I thought removing the LabelString line would be enough. But it isn't:
 it just removes the Chapter Label

 Help is appreciated. Pointers to the proper  customization manual
 section are appreciated too. I could not find the information there.



 Cheers,

 Stefano

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[stefano franchi]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

 Chapter {Chapter Number} {newline}
 Chapter Title


 That is fine when memoir is used to typeset books, but it's very
 annoying when used for articles (which it's perfectly capable of
 doing).

 So I want to change the layout accordingly. But I can't figure out
 where, in the standard definition of the Chapter Style from
 stdsections.inc, is the {newline} inserted:

 Unfortunately, this is hardcoded into LyX and not layout customizable.
 No doubt it should be. Please feel free to file an enhancement bug.

 Of course, the appearance in the PDF can be changed


Ah, that's why I could not find it in the docs. I'll file an
enhancement bug then.

I can't be the only Lyx user who is discovering how convenient it is
to work with the memoir class for both books and articles.


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

Changing the layout for chapter

[stefano franchi]

The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:

"Chapter" {Chapter Number} {newline}
Chapter Title


That is fine when memoir is used to typeset books, but it's very
annoying when used for articles (which it's perfectly capable of
doing).

So I want to change the layout accordingly. But I can't figure out
where, in the standard definition of the Chapter Style from
stdsections.inc, is the {newline} inserted:


Style Chapter
MarginStatic
Category  Section
LabelString   "Chapter \thechapter"
LabelStringAppendix   "Appendix \thechapter"
LabelType Counter
LabelCounter  chapter
TocLevel  0
LatexType Command
LatexName chapter
NeedProtect   1
NextNoIndent  1
ParSkip   0.4
TopSep4
BottomSep 0.8
ParSep0.8
Align Block
OptionalArgs  1
Font
  Series  Bold
  SizeHuge
EndFont
HTMLTag   h1
End

I thought removing the LabelString line would be enough. But it isn't:
it just removes the "Chapter" Label

Help is appreciated. Pointers to the proper  customization manual
section are appreciated too. I could not find the information there.



Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[Richard Heck]

On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
> The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:
>
> "Chapter" {Chapter Number} {newline}
> Chapter Title
>
>
> That is fine when memoir is used to typeset books, but it's very
> annoying when used for articles (which it's perfectly capable of
> doing).
>
> So I want to change the layout accordingly. But I can't figure out
> where, in the standard definition of the Chapter Style from
> stdsections.inc, is the {newline} inserted:
>
Unfortunately, this is hardcoded into LyX and not layout customizable.
No doubt it should be. Please feel free to file an enhancement bug.

Of course, the appearance in the PDF can be changed

Richard

> Style Chapter
>   MarginStatic
>   Category  Section
>   LabelString   "Chapter \thechapter"
>   LabelStringAppendix   "Appendix \thechapter"
>   LabelType Counter
>   LabelCounter  chapter
>   TocLevel  0
>   LatexType Command
>   LatexName chapter
>   NeedProtect   1
>   NextNoIndent  1
>   ParSkip   0.4
>   TopSep4
>   BottomSep 0.8
>   ParSep0.8
>   Align Block
>   OptionalArgs  1
>   Font
> Series  Bold
> SizeHuge
>   EndFont
>   HTMLTag   h1
> End
>
> I thought removing the LabelString line would be enough. But it isn't:
> it just removes the "Chapter" Label
>
> Help is appreciated. Pointers to the proper  customization manual
> section are appreciated too. I could not find the information there.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
>
>

Re: Changing the layout for chapter

[stefano franchi]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:
> On 12/07/2011 12:50 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
>> The layout file for the memoir class shows chapter headings as:
>>
>> "Chapter" {Chapter Number} {newline}
>> Chapter Title
>>
>>
>> That is fine when memoir is used to typeset books, but it's very
>> annoying when used for articles (which it's perfectly capable of
>> doing).
>>
>> So I want to change the layout accordingly. But I can't figure out
>> where, in the standard definition of the Chapter Style from
>> stdsections.inc, is the {newline} inserted:
>>
> Unfortunately, this is hardcoded into LyX and not layout customizable.
> No doubt it should be. Please feel free to file an enhancement bug.
>
> Of course, the appearance in the PDF can be changed
>

Ah, that's why I could not find it in the docs. I'll file an
enhancement bug then.

I can't be the only Lyx user who is discovering how convenient it is
to work with the memoir class for both books and articles.


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA