Re: Diff two versions of document

[Tommaso Cucinotta]

Sophie (itsme213) ha scritto:
So some form of compare 2 documents (integrating latex2diff?) would be 
great. Where those 2 documents came from (svn history, file system, 
somewhere else) should be a separate issue.
  

Hello,

I completely agree with the last comment: IMHO, the core feature that is 
needed is the capability to
compare two LyX documents, so as to show the differences in the LyX 
change-tracking way. This
also allows one to accept or reject individual changes. The comparison 
process might be easily
done by take advantage of latex2diff and proper changes to tex2lyx, but 
I don't know if this would

be utopy or reality.
A second issue is what do you want to allow to be compared: again, IMHO, 
it is useful to have both
comparison between different tags/branches from an SVN, and comparison 
between different

documents from the filesystem.
Sometimes I see wonderful GUI interfaces to CVS/SVN merging (i.e., 
Eclipse), but if you have a
backup folder on your system against which you want to compare, or your 
collegue could not
commit on the repository because he/she is on travel and had to send you 
an archive by e-mail,
then (AFAIK) you have to use an external tool (i.e., meld) in order to 
make the comparison
(unless you want to commit the new revision to some temporary 
repository, but I find this very

uncomfortable).
On the other hand, sometimes you have the filesystem-based comparison 
(i.e., M$ Word
Tools - Compare Documents... menu) but you don't have direct CVS/SVN 
integration.


Interestingly, if you have only filesystem-based comparison, then any of 
the tons of external
repository clients may be used in order to download the different 
revisions and you are done ...

the other way round is more complex.

So, summarising, I would focus on realizing the core feature: comparison 
between two LyX
documents (document trees, considering possible inclusions), but I would 
not tie the feature
to CVS/SVN access. Also, I would consider both use-cases important, with 
a slight
precedence on filesystem-based comparison (if I had to choose one among 
the two).


Just my 2 cents.

   T.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Tommaso Cucinotta]

Sophie (itsme213) ha scritto:
So some form of compare 2 documents (integrating latex2diff?) would be 
great. Where those 2 documents came from (svn history, file system, 
somewhere else) should be a separate issue.
  

Hello,

I completely agree with the last comment: IMHO, the core feature that is 
needed is the capability to
compare two LyX documents, so as to show the differences in the LyX 
change-tracking way. This
also allows one to accept or reject individual changes. The comparison 
process might be easily
done by take advantage of latex2diff and proper changes to tex2lyx, but 
I don't know if this would

be utopy or reality.
A second issue is what do you want to allow to be compared: again, IMHO, 
it is useful to have both
comparison between different tags/branches from an SVN, and comparison 
between different

documents from the filesystem.
Sometimes I see wonderful GUI interfaces to CVS/SVN merging (i.e., 
Eclipse), but if you have a
backup folder on your system against which you want to compare, or your 
collegue could not
commit on the repository because he/she is on travel and had to send you 
an archive by e-mail,
then (AFAIK) you have to use an external tool (i.e., meld) in order to 
make the comparison
(unless you want to commit the new revision to some temporary 
repository, but I find this very

uncomfortable).
On the other hand, sometimes you have the filesystem-based comparison 
(i.e., M$ Word
Tools - Compare Documents... menu) but you don't have direct CVS/SVN 
integration.


Interestingly, if you have only filesystem-based comparison, then any of 
the tons of external
repository clients may be used in order to download the different 
revisions and you are done ...

the other way round is more complex.

So, summarising, I would focus on realizing the core feature: comparison 
between two LyX
documents (document trees, considering possible inclusions), but I would 
not tie the feature
to CVS/SVN access. Also, I would consider both use-cases important, with 
a slight
precedence on filesystem-based comparison (if I had to choose one among 
the two).


Just my 2 cents.

   T.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Tommaso Cucinotta]

Sophie (itsme213) ha scritto:
So some form of compare 2 documents (integrating latex2diff?) would be 
great. Where those 2 documents came from (svn history, file system, 
somewhere else) should be a separate issue.
  

Hello,

I completely agree with the last comment: IMHO, the core feature that is 
needed is the capability to
compare two LyX documents, so as to show the differences in the LyX 
change-tracking way. This
also allows one to accept or reject individual changes. The comparison 
process might be easily
done by take advantage of latex2diff and proper changes to tex2lyx, but 
I don't know if this would

be utopy or reality.
A second issue is what do you want to allow to be compared: again, IMHO, 
it is useful to have both
comparison between different tags/branches from an SVN, and comparison 
between different

documents from the filesystem.
Sometimes I see wonderful GUI interfaces to CVS/SVN merging (i.e., 
Eclipse), but if you have a
backup folder on your system against which you want to compare, or your 
collegue could not
commit on the repository because he/she is on travel and had to send you 
an archive by e-mail,
then (AFAIK) you have to use an external tool (i.e., meld) in order to 
make the comparison
(unless you want to commit the new revision to some temporary 
repository, but I find this very

uncomfortable).
On the other hand, sometimes you have the filesystem-based comparison 
(i.e., M$ Word
"Tools -> Compare Documents..." menu) but you don't have direct CVS/SVN 
integration.


Interestingly, if you have only filesystem-based comparison, then any of 
the tons of external
repository clients may be used in order to download the different 
revisions and you are done ...

the other way round is more complex.

So, summarising, I would focus on realizing the core feature: comparison 
between two LyX
documents (document trees, considering possible inclusions), but I would 
not tie the feature
to CVS/SVN access. Also, I would consider both use-cases important, with 
a slight
precedence on filesystem-based comparison (if I had to choose one among 
the two).


Just my 2 cents.

   T.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Wolfgang Keller]

  The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track
  changes in the output document ?
 
  Wouldn't you want the review/accept/reject functionality? 

 I think the suggestion was to use these macros in our output, not to 
 change anything that happens inside LyX.

Nope.

That would be another totally useless feature. Just like the change
tracking feature currently available, but unfortunately totally useless
for Real Work (tm), as it is just a braindead clone of the
functionality provided by MS Word  Co..

What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the Real World
(such as companies) is:

- a built-in subversion client (already available)
- diffing of two versions from the subverion repository with output
_within_ _LyX_ using the change tracking display style, with
per-modification accept/reject functionality.

I've been authoring technical documents for twenty years now and
that this functionality is an absolute must für efficient
collaborative document authoring was perfectly obvious to me from the
very first day when I saw what revision control systems are and how
they are used by software developers.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

RE: Re: Diff two versions of document

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

 
 The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track 
 changes in the output document ?

 Wouldn't you want the review/accept/reject functionality? 
   
 I think the suggestion was to use these macros in our output, not to 
 change anything that happens inside LyX.

Nope.


As it was my suggestion (as a possible solution of a problem I was trying to 
fix), I would say 'Yes'.

That would be another totally useless feature. Just like the 
change tracking feature currently available, but unfortunately 
totally useless for Real Work (tm), as it is just a braindead clone 
of the functionality provided by MS Word  Co..

What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the 
Real World (such as companies) is:

- a built-in subversion client (already available)
- diffing of two versions from the subverion repository with 
output _within_ _LyX_ using the change tracking display style, 
with per-modification accept/reject functionality.

I've been authoring technical documents for twenty years now 
and that this functionality is an absolute must für efficient 
collaborative document authoring was perfectly obvious to me from
the very first day when I saw what revision control systems are 
and how they are used by software developers.

So to sum up, you mean:
- we don't do real work (or do I miss the joke),
- we don't live in the real world (or do I miss the joke),
- we are that blind that we don't see what is obvious,
- everything we implemented for this feature so far is useless, and
- we are braindead.

Not really the best way to introduce a feature request.

Do you mean that Real People in the Real World doing Real Work all use 
versioning systems ?


Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Vincent

Re: Diff two versions of document

[A B]

 What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the Real World
 (such as companies) is:

You are talking about one part of the world...

 - a built-in subversion client (already available)
 - diffing of two versions from the subverion repository with output
 _within_ _LyX_ using the change tracking display style, with
 per-modification accept/reject functionality.
Yes, checking in and out from svn or even from other forms of version
controll (sql database, wiki, emacs or what ever) and getting the
difference in the document = really great

But manually choosing a document to diff against = really great
feature that is also needed!

 I've been authoring technical documents for twenty years now and
 that this functionality is an absolute must für efficient
 collaborative document authoring was perfectly obvious to me from the
 very first day when I saw what revision control systems are and how
 they are used by software developers.

I hear that you have not written buissnes contracts, commenting
student papers, etc. Not all writers are friends and sometimes you
really need to have only one copy that is sent back and forth.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net writes:
 That would be another totally useless feature. Just like the change
 tracking feature currently available, but unfortunately totally useless
 for Real Work (tm), as it is just a braindead clone of the
 functionality provided by MS Word  Co..

 What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the Real World
 (such as companies) is:
[...]

Businesses that think this feature is a must are welcome to donate here
  http://www.lyx.org/Donate
for this particular entry.

JMarc

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Pavel Sanda]

A B wrote:
  What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the Real World
  (such as companies) is:
 
 You are talking about one part of the world...
 
  - a built-in subversion client (already available)
  - diffing of two versions from the subverion repository with output
  _within_ _LyX_ using the change tracking display style, with
  per-modification accept/reject functionality.
 Yes, checking in and out from svn or even from other forms of version
 controll (sql database, wiki, emacs or what ever) and getting the
 difference in the document = really great

if we have resolved the import of latex2diff integrating it with the
svn history shouldn't be so hard. integrating it with CT would be harder
task i think.

pavel

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Sophie (itsme213)]

Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote in message 
news:20090116132846.c06ebf80.felip...@gmx.net...
That would be another totally useless feature. Just like the change
tracking feature currently available, but unfortunately totally useless
for Real Work (tm), as it is just a braindead clone of the
functionality provided by MS Word  Co..

Rather strong wording ... Change tracking is useful, although it does not 
substitute for diff-like document comparison.

So some form of compare 2 documents (integrating latex2diff?) would be 
great. Where those 2 documents came from (svn history, file system, 
somewhere else) should be a separate issue.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Wolfgang Keller]

  The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track
  changes in the output document ?
 
  Wouldn't you want the review/accept/reject functionality? 

 I think the suggestion was to use these macros in our output, not to 
 change anything that happens inside LyX.

Nope.

That would be another totally useless feature. Just like the change
tracking feature currently available, but unfortunately totally useless
for Real Work (tm), as it is just a braindead clone of the
functionality provided by MS Word  Co..

What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the Real World
(such as companies) is:

- a built-in subversion client (already available)
- diffing of two versions from the subverion repository with output
_within_ _LyX_ using the change tracking display style, with
per-modification accept/reject functionality.

I've been authoring technical documents for twenty years now and
that this functionality is an absolute must für efficient
collaborative document authoring was perfectly obvious to me from the
very first day when I saw what revision control systems are and how
they are used by software developers.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

RE: Re: Diff two versions of document

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

 
 The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track 
 changes in the output document ?

 Wouldn't you want the review/accept/reject functionality? 
   
 I think the suggestion was to use these macros in our output, not to 
 change anything that happens inside LyX.

Nope.


As it was my suggestion (as a possible solution of a problem I was trying to 
fix), I would say 'Yes'.

That would be another totally useless feature. Just like the 
change tracking feature currently available, but unfortunately 
totally useless for Real Work (tm), as it is just a braindead clone 
of the functionality provided by MS Word  Co..

What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the 
Real World (such as companies) is:

- a built-in subversion client (already available)
- diffing of two versions from the subverion repository with 
output _within_ _LyX_ using the change tracking display style, 
with per-modification accept/reject functionality.

I've been authoring technical documents for twenty years now 
and that this functionality is an absolute must für efficient 
collaborative document authoring was perfectly obvious to me from
the very first day when I saw what revision control systems are 
and how they are used by software developers.

So to sum up, you mean:
- we don't do real work (or do I miss the joke),
- we don't live in the real world (or do I miss the joke),
- we are that blind that we don't see what is obvious,
- everything we implemented for this feature so far is useless, and
- we are braindead.

Not really the best way to introduce a feature request.

Do you mean that Real People in the Real World doing Real Work all use 
versioning systems ?


Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Vincent

Re: Diff two versions of document

[A B]

 What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the Real World
 (such as companies) is:

You are talking about one part of the world...

 - a built-in subversion client (already available)
 - diffing of two versions from the subverion repository with output
 _within_ _LyX_ using the change tracking display style, with
 per-modification accept/reject functionality.
Yes, checking in and out from svn or even from other forms of version
controll (sql database, wiki, emacs or what ever) and getting the
difference in the document = really great

But manually choosing a document to diff against = really great
feature that is also needed!

 I've been authoring technical documents for twenty years now and
 that this functionality is an absolute must für efficient
 collaborative document authoring was perfectly obvious to me from the
 very first day when I saw what revision control systems are and how
 they are used by software developers.

I hear that you have not written buissnes contracts, commenting
student papers, etc. Not all writers are friends and sometimes you
really need to have only one copy that is sent back and forth.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net writes:
 That would be another totally useless feature. Just like the change
 tracking feature currently available, but unfortunately totally useless
 for Real Work (tm), as it is just a braindead clone of the
 functionality provided by MS Word  Co..

 What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the Real World
 (such as companies) is:
[...]

Businesses that think this feature is a must are welcome to donate here
  http://www.lyx.org/Donate
for this particular entry.

JMarc

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Pavel Sanda]

A B wrote:
  What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the Real World
  (such as companies) is:
 
 You are talking about one part of the world...
 
  - a built-in subversion client (already available)
  - diffing of two versions from the subverion repository with output
  _within_ _LyX_ using the change tracking display style, with
  per-modification accept/reject functionality.
 Yes, checking in and out from svn or even from other forms of version
 controll (sql database, wiki, emacs or what ever) and getting the
 difference in the document = really great

if we have resolved the import of latex2diff integrating it with the
svn history shouldn't be so hard. integrating it with CT would be harder
task i think.

pavel

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Sophie (itsme213)]

Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote in message 
news:20090116132846.c06ebf80.felip...@gmx.net...
That would be another totally useless feature. Just like the change
tracking feature currently available, but unfortunately totally useless
for Real Work (tm), as it is just a braindead clone of the
functionality provided by MS Word  Co..

Rather strong wording ... Change tracking is useful, although it does not 
substitute for diff-like document comparison.

So some form of compare 2 documents (integrating latex2diff?) would be 
great. Where those 2 documents came from (svn history, file system, 
somewhere else) should be a separate issue.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Wolfgang Keller]

> >> The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track
> >> changes in the output document ?
> >
> > Wouldn't you want the review/accept/reject functionality? 
> >   
> I think the suggestion was to use these macros in our output, not to 
> change anything that happens inside LyX.

Nope.

That would be another totally useless feature. Just like the "change
tracking" feature currently available, but unfortunately totally useless
for Real Work (tm), as it is just a braindead clone of the
functionality provided by MS Word & Co..

What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the Real World
(such as companies) is:

- a built-in subversion client (already available)
- diffing of two versions from the subverion repository with output
_within_ _LyX_ using the "change tracking" display style, with
per-modification accept/reject functionality.

I've been authoring technical documents for twenty years now and
that this functionality is an absolute "must" für efficient
collaborative document authoring was perfectly obvious to me from the
very first day when I saw what revision control systems are and how
they are used by software developers.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

RE: Re: Diff two versions of document

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

 
 The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track 
 changes in the output document ?
>>>
>>> Wouldn't you want the review/accept/reject functionality? 
>>>   
>> I think the suggestion was to use these macros in our output, not to 
>> change anything that happens inside LyX.
>
>Nope.
>

As it was my suggestion (as a possible solution of a problem I was trying to 
fix), I would say 'Yes'.

>That would be another totally useless feature. Just like the 
>"change tracking" feature currently available, but unfortunately 
>totally useless for Real Work (tm), as it is just a braindead clone 
>of the functionality provided by MS Word & Co..
>
>What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the 
>Real World (such as companies) is:
>
>- a built-in subversion client (already available)
>- diffing of two versions from the subverion repository with 
>output _within_ _LyX_ using the "change tracking" display style, 
>with per-modification accept/reject functionality.
>
>I've been authoring technical documents for twenty years now 
>and that this functionality is an absolute "must" für efficient 
>collaborative document authoring was perfectly obvious to me from
>the very first day when I saw what revision control systems are 
>and how they are used by software developers.

So to sum up, you mean:
- we don't do real work (or do I miss the joke),
- we don't live in the real world (or do I miss the joke),
- we are that blind that we don't see what is obvious,
- everything we implemented for this feature so far is useless, and
- we are braindead.

Not really the best way to introduce a feature request.

Do you mean that Real People in the Real World doing Real Work all use 
versioning systems ?


>Sincerely,
>
>Wolfgang

Vincent

Re: Diff two versions of document

[A B]

> What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the Real World
> (such as companies) is:

You are talking about one part of the world...

> - a built-in subversion client (already available)
> - diffing of two versions from the subverion repository with output
> _within_ _LyX_ using the "change tracking" display style, with
> per-modification accept/reject functionality.
Yes, checking in and out from svn or even from other forms of version
controll (sql database, wiki, emacs or what ever) and getting the
difference in the document = really great

But manually choosing a document to diff against = really great
feature that is also needed!

> I've been authoring technical documents for twenty years now and
> that this functionality is an absolute "must" für efficient
> collaborative document authoring was perfectly obvious to me from the
> very first day when I saw what revision control systems are and how
> they are used by software developers.

I hear that you have not written buissnes contracts, commenting
student papers, etc. Not all writers are friends and sometimes you
really need to have only one copy that is sent back and forth.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Wolfgang Keller  writes:
> That would be another totally useless feature. Just like the "change
> tracking" feature currently available, but unfortunately totally useless
> for Real Work (tm), as it is just a braindead clone of the
> functionality provided by MS Word & Co..
>
> What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the Real World
> (such as companies) is:
[...]

Businesses that think this feature is a "must" are welcome to donate here
  http://www.lyx.org/Donate
for this particular entry.

JMarc

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Pavel Sanda]

A B wrote:
> > What is needed for collaborative document authoring in the Real World
> > (such as companies) is:
> 
> You are talking about one part of the world...
> 
> > - a built-in subversion client (already available)
> > - diffing of two versions from the subverion repository with output
> > _within_ _LyX_ using the "change tracking" display style, with
> > per-modification accept/reject functionality.
> Yes, checking in and out from svn or even from other forms of version
> controll (sql database, wiki, emacs or what ever) and getting the
> difference in the document = really great

if we have resolved the import of latex2diff integrating it with the
svn history shouldn't be so hard. integrating it with CT would be harder
task i think.

pavel

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Sophie (itsme213)]

"Wolfgang Keller"  wrote in message 
news:20090116132846.c06ebf80.felip...@gmx.net...
>That would be another totally useless feature. Just like the "change
>tracking" feature currently available, but unfortunately totally useless
>for Real Work (tm), as it is just a braindead clone of the
>functionality provided by MS Word & Co..

Rather strong wording ... Change tracking is useful, although it does not 
substitute for diff-like document comparison.

So some form of compare 2 documents (integrating latex2diff?) would be 
great. Where those 2 documents came from (svn history, file system, 
somewhere else) should be a separate issue.

Diff two versions of document

[Sophie (itsme213)]

Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that a good 
diff gets.

Thanks. 

Re: Diff two versions of document

[rgheck]

Sophie (itsme213) wrote:

Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that a good 
diff gets.


  
Try diff. ;-) Of course, that loses you the LyX view. But you pick your 
poison.


rh

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Tommaso Cucinotta]

Sophie (itsme213) ha scritto:

Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that a good 
diff gets.


Thanks. 




  

Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, reimport the result into LyX
Result would be far better if LyX were capable of translating the 
latexdiff macros

into its own revision-specific insets.

   T.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[A B]

 Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

 Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that a
 good diff gets.

 Thanks.




 Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, reimport the result into LyX
 Result would be far better if LyX were capable of translating the latexdiff
 macros
 into its own revision-specific insets.

   T.

That sounds like a nice new feature for 1.6.2 doesn't it? To compare
two documents and get a diffed version ;-)
Yes, I know there is a feature request on this in bugzilla.

RE: Diff two versions of document

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

 That sounds like a nice new feature for 1.6.2 doesn't it? To compare
 two documents and get a diffed version ;-) Yes, I know there is a 
 feature request on this in bugzilla.

Feel free.

Vincent

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Konrad Hofbauer]

Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:

Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, ...


Have not heard about this before - WOW !!!

Just tried this with a complex document and with lots of changes, and 
the result is _awesome_  It even marks changes _inside_ formulas.


Thanks for sharing!
/Konrad

Re: Diff two versions of document

[rgheck]

Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:

Sophie (itsme213) ha scritto:

Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that 
a good diff gets.


Thanks.


  
Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, reimport the result 
into LyX
Result would be far better if LyX were capable of translating the 
latexdiff macros

into its own revision-specific insets.


Very interesting. JMarc, how hard would it be to get tex2lyx to do this?

rh

RE: Diff two versions of document

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

 
 Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, reimport the result 
 into LyX Result would be far better if LyX were capable of
translating 
 the latexdiff macros into its own revision-specific insets.

Very interesting. JMarc, how hard would it be to get tex2lyx to do
this?

rh


The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track changes
in the output document ?

Vincent

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Cucinotta Tommaso]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:38:27 +0100
 Konrad Hofbauer hofba...@sbox.tugraz.at wrote:

Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:

Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, ...


Have not heard about this before - WOW !!!


Me neither since a few months ago, when Enrico Forestieri 
told me about latexdiff.



Thanks for sharing!


Just say thanks to Enrico.

  T.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Sophie (itsme213)]

Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote in message
 The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track changes
 in the output document ?

Wouldn't you want the review/accept/reject functionality? 

Re: Diff two versions of document

[rgheck]

Sophie (itsme213) wrote:

Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote in message
  

The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track changes
in the output document ?



Wouldn't you want the review/accept/reject functionality? 

  
I think the suggestion was to use these macros in our output, not to 
change anything that happens inside LyX.


rh

Diff two versions of document

[Sophie (itsme213)]

Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that a good 
diff gets.

Thanks. 

Re: Diff two versions of document

[rgheck]

Sophie (itsme213) wrote:

Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that a good 
diff gets.


  
Try diff. ;-) Of course, that loses you the LyX view. But you pick your 
poison.


rh

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Tommaso Cucinotta]

Sophie (itsme213) ha scritto:

Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that a good 
diff gets.


Thanks. 




  

Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, reimport the result into LyX
Result would be far better if LyX were capable of translating the 
latexdiff macros

into its own revision-specific insets.

   T.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[A B]

 Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

 Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that a
 good diff gets.

 Thanks.




 Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, reimport the result into LyX
 Result would be far better if LyX were capable of translating the latexdiff
 macros
 into its own revision-specific insets.

   T.

That sounds like a nice new feature for 1.6.2 doesn't it? To compare
two documents and get a diffed version ;-)
Yes, I know there is a feature request on this in bugzilla.

RE: Diff two versions of document

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

 That sounds like a nice new feature for 1.6.2 doesn't it? To compare
 two documents and get a diffed version ;-) Yes, I know there is a 
 feature request on this in bugzilla.

Feel free.

Vincent

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Konrad Hofbauer]

Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:

Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, ...


Have not heard about this before - WOW !!!

Just tried this with a complex document and with lots of changes, and 
the result is _awesome_  It even marks changes _inside_ formulas.


Thanks for sharing!
/Konrad

Re: Diff two versions of document

[rgheck]

Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:

Sophie (itsme213) ha scritto:

Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that 
a good diff gets.


Thanks.


  
Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, reimport the result 
into LyX
Result would be far better if LyX were capable of translating the 
latexdiff macros

into its own revision-specific insets.


Very interesting. JMarc, how hard would it be to get tex2lyx to do this?

rh

RE: Diff two versions of document

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

 
 Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, reimport the result 
 into LyX Result would be far better if LyX were capable of
translating 
 the latexdiff macros into its own revision-specific insets.

Very interesting. JMarc, how hard would it be to get tex2lyx to do
this?

rh


The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track changes
in the output document ?

Vincent

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Cucinotta Tommaso]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:38:27 +0100
 Konrad Hofbauer hofba...@sbox.tugraz.at wrote:

Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:

Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, ...


Have not heard about this before - WOW !!!


Me neither since a few months ago, when Enrico Forestieri 
told me about latexdiff.



Thanks for sharing!


Just say thanks to Enrico.

  T.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Sophie (itsme213)]

Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote in message
 The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track changes
 in the output document ?

Wouldn't you want the review/accept/reject functionality? 

Re: Diff two versions of document

[rgheck]

Sophie (itsme213) wrote:

Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote in message
  

The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track changes
in the output document ?



Wouldn't you want the review/accept/reject functionality? 

  
I think the suggestion was to use these macros in our output, not to 
change anything that happens inside LyX.


rh

Diff two versions of document

[Sophie (itsme213)]

Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that a good 
diff gets.

Thanks. 

Re: Diff two versions of document

[rgheck]

Sophie (itsme213) wrote:

Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that a good 
diff gets.


  
Try diff. ;-) Of course, that loses you the LyX view. But you pick your 
poison.


rh

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Tommaso Cucinotta]

Sophie (itsme213) ha scritto:

Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that a good 
diff gets.


Thanks. 




  

Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, reimport the result into LyX
Result would be far better if LyX were capable of translating the 
latexdiff macros

into its own revision-specific insets.

   T.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[A B]

>> Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?
>>
>> Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that a
>> good diff gets.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, reimport the result into LyX
> Result would be far better if LyX were capable of translating the latexdiff
> macros
> into its own revision-specific insets.
>
>   T.

That sounds like a nice new feature for 1.6.2 doesn't it? To compare
two documents and get a diffed version ;-)
Yes, I know there is a feature request on this in bugzilla.

RE: Diff two versions of document

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

> That sounds like a nice new feature for 1.6.2 doesn't it? To compare
> two documents and get a diffed version ;-) Yes, I know there is a 
> feature request on this in bugzilla.

Feel free.

Vincent

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Konrad Hofbauer]

Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:

Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, ...


Have not heard about this before - WOW !!!

Just tried this with a complex document and with lots of changes, and 
the result is _awesome_  It even marks changes _inside_ formulas.


Thanks for sharing!
/Konrad

Re: Diff two versions of document

[rgheck]

Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:

Sophie (itsme213) ha scritto:

Is there a way to diff two versions of a document?

Change tracking shows individual edits, so loses the macro view that 
a good diff gets.


Thanks.


  
Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, reimport the result 
into LyX
Result would be far better if LyX were capable of translating the 
latexdiff macros

into its own revision-specific insets.


Very interesting. JMarc, how hard would it be to get tex2lyx to do this?

rh

RE: Diff two versions of document

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

 
>> Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, reimport the result 
>> into LyX Result would be far better if LyX were capable of
translating 
>> the latexdiff macros into its own revision-specific insets.
>>
>Very interesting. JMarc, how hard would it be to get tex2lyx to do
this?
>
>rh
>

The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track changes
in the output document ?

Vincent

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Cucinotta Tommaso]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:38:27 +0100
 Konrad Hofbauer  wrote:

Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:

Export to LaTeX both documents, use latexdiff, ...


Have not heard about this before - WOW !!!


Me neither since a few months ago, when Enrico Forestieri 
told me about latexdiff.



Thanks for sharing!


Just say thanks to Enrico.

  T.

Re: Diff two versions of document

[Sophie (itsme213)]

"Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW" wrote in message
> The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track changes
> in the output document ?

Wouldn't you want the review/accept/reject functionality? 

Re: Diff two versions of document

[rgheck]

Sophie (itsme213) wrote:

"Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW" wrote in message
  

The other way around: Can't we use this to visualize our track changes
in the output document ?



Wouldn't you want the review/accept/reject functionality? 

  
I think the suggestion was to use these macros in our output, not to 
change anything that happens inside LyX.


rh